#Increasing/Decreasing Equip Times

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shrewd vigil
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To balance high-damage weapons, they would have longer equip times, similar to what we already see with many snipers.

This is inconsistently applied though, with none of the high-damage sidearms having these attributes. Without it, players can fire one after the other in quick succession, just as if they were to do the same with snipers.

If we were to have equal balancing, either these high-damage sidearms would have longer equip times, or snipers would have shortened equip times.

I believe we should have equal balancing, as to help balance firefights between the p2w and f2p

bronze scarab
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noooo

autumn compass
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Yes

bronze scarab
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an actually well made and thought out suggestion

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😭

shrewd vigil
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tyty

autumn compass
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Wouldn't be realistic but it'd be fair

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But who cares about realism

shrewd vigil
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ye, we have egg gun anyways

autumn compass
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I think increasing is better so nobody's happy

fading agate
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Makes F2P actually somewhat playable

autumn compass
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You're still gonna get 1 shotted

fading agate
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Somewhat*

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Yeah

autumn compass
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No matter what you do you're gonna get 1 shotted

vast otter
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Increasing equip times for 1 shot pistols would help quite a bit with popshoting

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Not as high equip times as 1s ofc but

autumn compass
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Indeed

vast otter
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Any amount more would def help

lone granite
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for the love of good decrease 1s

keen remnant
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increase 1s 🙏

vast otter
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1s equip time is fine don't decrease it please I beg

autumn compass
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Decrease it for AEGIS because they have military experience

wild swan
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just get better aim

solar rose
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as long as you do this to every single weapon it should be fine

wet lagoon
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no

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this game isn’t a use one gun and call it a day game

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literally everyone uses numerous weapons mid combat, f2p or not

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100% of raiders spam their guns

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do you want to kill dod by taking away the one singular fun part of combat

solar rose
vast otter
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Autos need low equip time

raising 1 tap weapon equip should prevent 1 person from holding a corner and just pop shotting 10 people while getting away with it

solar rose
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no one really likes popshotting

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doesn't matter if ur aegis or a raider

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it would also promote the use of automatic weapons which are never used anymore

wet lagoon
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well they are

glass oasis
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but only by f2p players

vast otter
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They are still used but they are universally bad

solar rose
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p2w people just cycle the same few 1 shot guns

wet lagoon
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4hm is widely used

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as a backup

wet lagoon
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i said spamming guns was fun

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you ain’t gotta pop shoot for that

glass oasis
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you didn't

glass oasis
wet lagoon
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pop shooting is ass with dod latency

solar rose
vast otter
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Yes
A weapon that costs more then a 1s is only useful as a backup academysmack_aegis
The only truly good auto rn is the pip smg and maybe the M16/f13, 4hm mini gun etc are all mid at best

wet lagoon
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it’s just used because you’d get fucking beamed if you exposed yourself for longer than 2 seconds

wet lagoon
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gun prices mean fuck all

vast otter
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Maybe but 1 tap guns being too strong is true and this would help fix it

glass oasis
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Tower duty for f2p is hell rn

royal mural
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clloned arent you like a dev manager

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is this just like a consensus

vast otter
solar rose
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tbh i'd be fine with decreasing the equip times for f2p weapons like the sniper

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we can keep p2w weapon equip times the same i guess

glass oasis
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I'm stuck trying to hit people on buildings half way across the map with the G14

wet lagoon
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l11 equip time needs buffing

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it’d ass

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it’s

vast otter
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ok this is true

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L11 is just garbage

keen remnant
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although something could be done in anchor 4

tawny lion
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imagine if weapons had a chance to malfunction and popshotting would significantly increase that

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it's a subtle "fuck you" if you will

keen remnant
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this suggestion wouldn’t need to have happened if one shots didn’t exist counter: 2

tawny lion
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I would be fine with one shot weapons if only the 1s and l118a1 were capable of one shotting

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maybe even the x33

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you can certainly stop this madness by creating a new separate game

proven leaf
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remove equip times nerf guns

icy shale
shrewd vigil
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ofc

icy shale
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My suggestion actually went somewhere lesgo

shrewd vigil
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i can propose content, but that's kinda it

shrewd vigil
leaden mason
rugged elbow
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I think the equip times are fine, I don’t want it to take 3 seconds to equip 1s

dreamy sedge
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Part of what makes the X-33 special is the ability to quickdraw

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and the amount of damage it does is actually perfect for it's equip time

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So I think a fair compromise would be to give some sidearms a longer equiptime but in return, give them higher damage or something

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so they retain their value

wet lagoon
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That’s just pointless then

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Instead of using skill and spamming 4 guns we’ll just spam 1 at everyone

urban sequoia
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No cuz then egg would be meta

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😭 I won't stand for this it's already too good

proven leaf
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I cant even shoot egg cuz of its pullout time

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How would people get used to this........

urban sequoia
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Dylam save us

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dylan

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I can't not use 5 1 taps

spice cloud
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remove armour equip times i beg

icy shale
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Just keep the gamepass weapon equip times as they are reduce 1s to 2 seconds or 1.8 to equip and any normal sniper (L11, LRP) to be slower than the equip time of a gamepass sidearm by half of a second or 0.25

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I think this’ll work with everyone

shrewd vigil
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resort to not pop shooting

proven leaf
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perhaps we could nerf all guns and remove equipment durations...

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true method...

shrewd vigil
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heeeeeel nah

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people would just be playing their keyboard like a piano

proven leaf
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thats the skill

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hmm....

shrewd vigil
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and the 100k for each 95 DMG sidearm, yorp

turbid hinge
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what abt the hitreg issues

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😪

shrewd vigil
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uhhhhhhhh

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anchor 4

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already being worked on I believe

tawny lion
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anchor 4 better cripple popshooting

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@polar quiver good sire, do this

timber fulcrum
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If you balance the gameplay between f2p and p2w then there's just no reason for anyone to be p2w

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And you lose sales

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And as a p2w player I dont think my shit being nerfed to the ground is fair

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Slow pullout time would push a full auto meta

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Because the only reason multiple 1 shots are used is because of the ability to switch quickly

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So it would completely change the gunplay in the game

proven leaf
timber fulcrum
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It would completely change gunplay

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You would just use a sniper and a full auto

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Which is fine

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But Im already deep invested into the current state of the game

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And if ur gonna completely change the gunplay and usability of the weapons

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I would want some kind of refunds for my now near useless multiple weapons

proven leaf
timber fulcrum
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Because it just wouldnt make sense to have multiple 1 shots in a slow pullout meta

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Max you could possibly need would be 2

proven leaf
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Nerf guns remove pullout times

timber fulcrum
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Remove as in instant pullout?

proven leaf
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Yea

timber fulcrum
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Genius

proven leaf
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Thank you.

timber fulcrum
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That would fix everything

tawny lion
timber fulcrum
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Yeah I know

tawny lion
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the current state of gunplay is cancerous

timber fulcrum
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My point is I paid for the current gunplay system

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So to change it and ruin my loadout

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Isnt really fair

proven leaf
timber fulcrum
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And either I should get a refund or it shouldnt happen

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But I see the benefit to the system

tawny lion
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I also paid for strong guns yet I wouldn't mind if the game was recreated without cash grab gamepasses in mind

timber fulcrum
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Im all for the gunplay changes

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But not at the expense of basically invalidating my gamepasses

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And turning all my spent robux into a waste just like that

tawny lion
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at most, heavy kevlar and normal weapons should be gamepass accessible

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game is literally approaching cod mentality

timber fulcrum
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I dont understand what u just said

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Heavy kevlar and normal weapons should be gamepass accessible

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Can you rephrase that

proven leaf
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What does this mean

tawny lion
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out of everything here and other gamepass places, dews and other bullshits like the turkey and titanium should be thrown into the trash

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timber fulcrum
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So basically you're saying delete gamepasses

tawny lion
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yes

proven leaf
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Loll

timber fulcrum
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Okay...

proven leaf
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Yea ok

timber fulcrum
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Yeah I just clicked on your profile and Im not at all surprised to see you dont have any robux roles lol

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I understand the pain of not being p2w in a p2w game

proven leaf
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Oh so what he meant is for the only gamepasses ingame to be hk and the wasteland shop ones

timber fulcrum
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But that doesnt mean the p2w game should conform to you

proven leaf
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Thats so incredibly stupid

tawny lion
timber fulcrum
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If u dont like the game because its p2w you should play a different game not complain that the game is p2w

tawny lion
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but I'm not financially irresponsible like a lot of you are

timber fulcrum
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But you're complaining about it

tawny lion
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and?

timber fulcrum
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Just dont play

tawny lion
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paying =/= more right

timber fulcrum
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???

proven leaf
timber fulcrum
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Everyone who plays DOD knows its p2w

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Someone in their first hour of gameplay knows that

proven leaf
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I remember you also had a suggestion for sc to get a tazer that can stun anyone ingame for seconds to combat p2w raiders

timber fulcrum
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They can either say "Welp I dont wanna play this" or "Ill play it anyway"

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You chose the latter

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Now decide to complain about it anyways

tawny lion
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if you don't complain, nothing will change

timber fulcrum
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Why would it change

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Its built to be a p2w game

proven leaf
timber fulcrum
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Chairman loves money - he makes cool op p2w stuff

tawny lion
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game will become irrelevant in a couple of years

timber fulcrum
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Ok

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Im not even saying that isnt true

proven leaf
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Obviously

tawny lion
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in fact the entire ecosystem will fail

timber fulcrum
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Is this a valid crashout?

proven leaf
timber fulcrum
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Just leave the group if it hurts you this much man

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There are so many games and platforms for you to spend your free time on

proven leaf
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I do think nerfing some guns is warranted but straight up deleting them just isn't going to happen lol

timber fulcrum
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Dont nerf my guns 😡

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Nerf the ones I dont use 🤗

proven leaf
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And then coping about how yea the game will be irrelevant in years and fail because you don't have the gamepasses and others do is crazy lol

timber fulcrum
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Yeah and Im ngl you didnt even really make any good points for your case

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The game gets updates actively

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And has been alive for like 7 years

proven leaf
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Coming from someone who has most gamepasses

timber fulcrum
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Maybe they "should"

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That doesnt mean I want to get on and suddenly have a worse loadout tho

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Whats right for the people vs Whats right for me 💯

proven leaf
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Remove pullout times nerf guns so you need to actually have skill.........

timber fulcrum
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BUFF MUSKET

proven leaf
timber fulcrum
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That would just buff the p2w meta tho

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Everyone who voted yes on here would disagree with that

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No pullout time means the 1 shot loadout stays meta

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And maybe even becomes more so

tawny lion
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maybe if the gun system forced your character to turn with your cursor then this cancerous popshooting could be eliminated

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then I wouldn't even care about the one shot weapons

timber fulcrum
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There are so many games like that bro

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Go play one of them

tawny lion
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I already play on one of them

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in fact I dev one

timber fulcrum
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I like that this game doesnt have camera aiming like a ton of others

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Bro then just main that

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Dont waste time complaining about how a game is run 7 years along

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Its been like this

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And will most likely stay like this

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In the sense of p2w meta

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Not the gameplay

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Obv the gameplay and everything is subject to change

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As like I said before the game is updated

tawny lion
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this game is so fucking boring sometimes I wonder why I even came back in the first place

timber fulcrum
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Not only do you come back but you go to the suggestions page and complain 😔

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I understand where you're coming from

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But its how p2w works

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You pay -> You win

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And you're saying "They paid and they won nerf them so I can win"

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Idk what else to say 🤷

tawny lion
shrewd vigil
glass oasis
agile jetty
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ew no

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i paied for op gun i get op gun

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if i woulve known it would be ass i woudnt have bought it

glass oasis
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Balancing SUCKS

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I HATE it

tawny lion
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you're not alone

keen remnant
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I AM GOING TO DELETE THE BUG REPORTS TAG

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wait wrong suggestion

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HOW DID I GET HERE

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WTF

dreamy sedge
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bro woke up here

wet lagoon
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new meta

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i’m bad at doing xyz so we remove it

proven leaf
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key to success

twin totem
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let alone lead dev

plucky tiger
shrewd vigil
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i cant do much 😔

plucky tiger