#Adjust what ranks can use admin to find exploiters

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tardy glacier
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You guys dont see the internal stuff

valid sleet
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no

slow trail
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Delay his promotions a little bit

valid sleet
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i do see it

tardy glacier
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So you should not be talking

valid sleet
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i know what officers are doing

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internally

tardy glacier
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What do divisional warnings do

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What do strikes do

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Its all the same

valid sleet
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nothing

tardy glacier
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Im not arguing over useless shit

valid sleet
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we just give them out for fun

jagged pecan
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baka

valid sleet
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same as officer warnings

tardy glacier
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That you have no idea about

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Join AOA

valid sleet
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i have

tardy glacier
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And experience it yourself

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Yeah

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Pass it and become an officer

valid sleet
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what for

tardy glacier
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If you are so good

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Do it yourself

valid sleet
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to become a useless person and strike people cause i can

slow trail
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it really wasnt that difficult as S4-AOA

tardy glacier
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Yeah

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And I did

valid sleet
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i can easily get to officer but do i want to

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no

tardy glacier
valid sleet
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exactly

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i cant be arsed

tardy glacier
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You're too blinded by your ego

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To do it

valid sleet
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you're too blinded by ur rank

slow trail
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Yes because you dont want to spend 20 hours a week copy pasting to keep up with others

valid sleet
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to handle situations properly

slow trail
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Let me spend 1/8th of my week on a roblox grind to get promoted in 3 months time

valid sleet
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i am not tryna host lessons i already have divisional quota

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and i do way more than im supposed to

tardy glacier
slow trail
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im not as anti-officer as cowstream btw

tardy glacier
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Because I go to every Officer I can

slow trail
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i just think there are some idiots

tardy glacier
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When I have to handle something

slow trail
valid sleet
tardy glacier
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Blinded by rank is crazy

slow trail
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i dont agree with cow on that statement

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i just think some are stupid

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i wanna make myself clear.

tardy glacier
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Officer means NOTHING

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UC is the power hungry rank

valid sleet
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no

tardy glacier
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You cant do jack shit as officer

valid sleet
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you can strike people

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for fun

tardy glacier
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Thats crazy

valid sleet
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and get people banned because they insulted you

tardy glacier
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Woah

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Yet

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I got people insulting my ass all the time

valid sleet
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not you

tardy glacier
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And I dont do anything abt it

valid sleet
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other officers

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ur special

slow trail
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SUPERSMARTYPANTS

tardy glacier
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Yeah thanks man

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You call all officers corrupt

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When its individuals

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Holy

slow trail
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^ i think thats a better way to put it

valid sleet
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lets put it this way

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majority of the officers

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are corrupt

slow trail
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some are ok some are stupid

valid sleet
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not much difference tho

slow trail
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cowstream stop yapping

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ur not making urself look good pal

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i understand u have concerns........

valid sleet
slow trail
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however i am a very big advocate for remvoing checkups

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#removecheckups

valid sleet
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im a very big advocate for removign most things

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in aegis

tardy glacier
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Let's keep this on topic

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We moved away

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Now its over

valid sleet
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ok anyways yea that users cheating

tardy glacier
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Yeah I agree

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Bro was doing mad flicks

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And other crazy shit

valid sleet
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no way in hell would you randomly go to engineering after afking

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and pull out ur gun

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to shoot the raider whos made

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no sound at all

tardy glacier
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Yeah

slow trail
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were they banned or not

tardy glacier
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Bc majority said no

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Despite it being obvious

slow trail
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šŸ§ 

vagrant sedge
fringe falcon
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90% of officers and SCs have no idea on how exploits work in roblox and how to catch people exploiting so i think this is a pretty good suggestion since even tho it doesnt look like it there are probably lots of exploiters playing DoD that havent been caught because SC and some other people dont know how to recognize exploits and i think educating them would be good since it will keep this game clean

vagrant sedge
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if you do that you will be there for 2 and a half years or more

slow trail
vagrant sedge
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(4 months without officer promo cuz officers r overstaffed)

serene yarrow
vagrant sedge
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wtf šŸ—£ļø

serene yarrow
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anyways i gotta see this suggestion tho im curious

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eh the proof against him is mid, the doc was an embarassment

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not everyone streams their gameplay

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btw @round basin blaming the officer core for this is wild, i dont even remember being sent an exploiting report by you

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the drunk sc situation was pretty wild though, i guess now scpa will have to cover no drinking on the job

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ngl expecting this game to get better hitreg or better anticheat is insane

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for the most part officers and sc are the anticheat

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id like to say im pretty good at it, but no one fuckin brings me reports or anything

prisma haven
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bro cooked up a buffet

vagrant sedge
serene yarrow
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hang on i gotta fuckin get on pc for this what kind of trippy game is this

prisma haven
modest minnow
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I mean, imperfect system in a imperfect world.

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But the guy who banned you because of that is a idiot

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Also as with inexperienced sc/officers, experience comes with time. And back when I was new I would often ask in sc on topic others opinions if the person is exploiting or not.

serene yarrow
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nah why is it so bright

jagged pecan
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Is it really that simple

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Like you literally get a whole perspective of a player with just a command

serene yarrow
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a lot of this also comes down to needing an officer who doesnt care what the community thinks if you want to get a well-known player banned @broken lake

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its incredibly hard to get well-known players in this community to stay banned because the community itself is, lets be very honest here, extraordinarily toxic at times

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and it becomes way easier to just recuse yourself than to take action and get flamed for all the live-long day

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im not biased and corrupt tho

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people just dont send me reports

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sc is actually the perfect division to cheat in lol

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thats more of an aia issue

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we cant really handle alting

jagged pecan
serene yarrow
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yes but like

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evidence

jagged pecan
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they arenā€™t alting and people donā€™t know whoā€™s that person behind the account all they think about is that itā€™s 1 guy and also reporting for account sharing would be a difficult process because you will have to get multiple interactions and videos and examples of both players to prove itā€™s being shared

serene yarrow
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and if you have evidence, aia

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so youre saying you have proof of alting, which you have failed to share with aia

serene yarrow
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ofc its not necessarily against tos to have a second account

valid sleet
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move

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arent both u and saron friends

jagged pecan
valid sleet
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why u ratting him out

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or is it a joke

spark marsh
latent sinew
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that seems rather simple to implement

serene yarrow
latent sinew
serene yarrow
latent sinew
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true

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but again, it's not impossible

valid sleet
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so like

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posting it publicly

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would be way better

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and actually would get a response

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this has been seen multiple times over the recent years

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yea

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it is

serene yarrow
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mostly because its not dod and i have no familiarity with that game, but from a glance the red highlight is suspicious and the red circle appearing on the cursor is too (also at the same time im not sure who im supposed to be watching here so i defaulted to the pov being presented)

valid sleet
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aia can ban anyone bro without evidence and no one can question it

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good luck getting unbanned if ur banned by aia

spark marsh
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Then they call the ban classified so they canā€™t talk abt it

valid sleet
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alot of people have been banned by aia

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and cannot question the reason

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or evidence

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and all because of a phrase "its classified"

jade apex
serene yarrow
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some of those shots dont look like they shouldve been hitting but still end up causing a hit

valid sleet
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welcome to shooting guns

serene yarrow
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that makes sense

jagged pecan
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Nah bru speaking from experience šŸ˜­

spark marsh
serene yarrow
jagged pecan
spark marsh
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Plus fake

jagged pecan
amber geyser
serene yarrow
jagged pecan
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I didnā€™t wanna put effort

spark marsh
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Arenā€™t u drowned?

jagged pecan
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I tried fixing the resolution but it never worked

serene yarrow
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šŸ˜”

jagged pecan
serene yarrow
jagged pecan
serene yarrow
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most photoshopped shit ive ever seen

spark marsh
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You šŸ’€

jagged pecan
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Itā€™s my first time

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Apart from that I agree in Sauronā€™s suggestion

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on

serene yarrow
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why do you look like an alt lol @jagged pecan

jagged pecan
valid sleet
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ho

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hi

jagged pecan
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Smart move canā€™t be bothered to do a transfer if my Roblox account got deleted gotta play it safe

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also gamepasses

serene yarrow
jagged pecan
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Yes I got like 30 accounts deleted

vagrant sedge
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danke

jagged pecan
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They are bullshit one for using alternative Roblox accounts one for racism and the others I wasnā€™t able to check because there is too much accounts

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The reason those accounts got deleted is because

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Theyā€™re all connected to 1 email

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So Roblox banned all the accounts in that email

serene yarrow
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no we all know roblox doesnt make mistakes

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trust

jagged pecan
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I canā€™t be bothered appealing honestly too much accounts lost

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I used to exploit back in 2019 to 2021 before I found this Roblox game but I havenā€™t for the past 3 years so no

jade apex
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hi move

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i used to hack in minecraft šŸ¤‘

jagged pecan
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Donā€™t ip log me please

jade apex
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šŸ˜Ž

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even with cheats i sucked ass

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šŸ’€

serene yarrow
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do you cringe at that now

jade apex
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yes

jagged pecan
jade apex
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i mean

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back then i was like what

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10?

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mf i couldnt even keep my mouse on the other player

serene yarrow
jade apex
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same bro

jagged pecan
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like 50% of the time it doesnā€™t work as expected itā€™s even quite embarrassing to lose bedwars while cheating

serene yarrow
smoky quail
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I aprove

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i say we do what rust players do and do random task manager checks

spark marsh
jovial sinew
tardy glacier
jovial sinew
tardy glacier
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And thats size

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I am in the top 10%

jovial sinew
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top 10* not 10%

tardy glacier
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Oh you think that big?

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I never realised

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Maybe

analog breach
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not reading allat yapping im just gonna press the green šŸ”„

ornate rivet
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i fw you heavy gang

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this had to be said

mellow basalt
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this will just lead to less exploiters being banned, not more

round basin
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I never said exploiters that are flying around shouldnā€™t be banned

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Exploiters that are trying to hide their cheats

mellow basalt
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the solution is education not restricting access to a group of 10 or so people

round basin
mellow basalt
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in the future if you find HBE, if SC don't do anything about it then send the evidence to me and ill review it

round basin
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Last I checked Roblox hardly ever does ban waves

mellow basalt
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but this suggestion will have the opposite effect that you want

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often we already consult UC+ anyway

round basin
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It can be very easy to educate people on what exploits are

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If toml gave me and some other people perms to

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I would make a doc

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Giving tips on how toidentify it

mellow basalt
round basin
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So that clip I sent of me in hangar isnā€™t hbe is what your saying

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Because it is actually really easy to tell if itā€™s lag or not

mellow basalt
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we get a ton of reports for HBE, aimbot, whatever, a lot of which are for well known raiders like you, we always investigate them but without a clip or whatever then yeah

round basin
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Everyone Iā€™ve reported

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Turned out to be exploiting

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Or banned in the ban wave

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And aegis didnā€™t do anything about it

mellow basalt
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we've received reports for HBE, aimbot, etc for almost every well known raider, that includes you

round basin
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Iā€™m well aware people think I cheat and the raiders

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The issue is when an exploiter who knows how to cheat without being noticed joins your game

mellow basalt
round basin
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All these new genā€™s sc donā€™t know anything

round basin
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Thatā€™s why I donā€™t bring up bullets anymore

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The clip in hangar where he shot way farther away from me isnā€™t lag

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That is just his using blatant HBE

mellow basalt
round basin
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There isnā€™t bringing it up to higher SC when they always are inactive or donā€™t checks DMs

mellow basalt
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all decisions made regarding HBE are always consulting multiple SC or Officer+

round basin
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Most of the SC have no clue about it

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Is what Iā€™m getting at

mellow basalt
round basin
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I canā€™t dm you every time g

mellow basalt
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if other people arent checking their dms then just send it to me idc

round basin
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Some issues can be solved by letting wastelanders help

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And form what Iā€™ve seen most of aegis officer and sc donā€™t know what cheats look like when someone hides them

mellow basalt
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I'm fine with having a document made to educate people

round basin
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That guy who I was reporting I wonder why he never sent a clip form his perspeftive

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Maybe because his screen he saw boxes with player names on them

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And a circle around his mouse

round basin
mellow basalt
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but what you're suggesting is to restrict our moderation force from 50+ people to around 10 which won't have the impact you want

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even if its just for hbe etc

round basin
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I never said donā€™t let sc ban blatant exploiters

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People doing obv fly to

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And tp

mellow basalt
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yes i clarified that

round basin
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Can be banned by sc

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But the issue is if those sc. didnā€™t have the right to vote on this one guy

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He would of been banned but aegis game to the conclusion he wasnā€™t exploiting

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One day later he was banned by the ban wave for

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Exploiting

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And it just so happened to be he was only playing aegis when it happened

mellow basalt
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as i said im fine with having a document made, thats something ill look into, but SC won't be restricted from investigating HBE or aimbot

round basin
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Yk this suggestion was to just bring change or limit what could happen in the vote

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If aegis would actually change their idea on how they find exploiters

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I woild be okay with it

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The current way you guys determine if someone is cheating is so shit

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When thereā€™s valid proof you have a cheat purchased, and you have hit shots you canā€™t hit even with lag

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Or see through walls

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You arenā€™t a real player

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It would easily be avoided if aegis changed how they handled it

mellow basalt
# round basin Yk this suggestion was to just bring change or limit what could happen in the vo...

Bringing change is good, I agree, but limiting it is not the way to go about it, UC+ aren't magically better at detecting aimbot, nor do they have any documents in place (As far as im aware) to help with detecting aimbot, the solution here is to better educate our moderators, both officer+ and SC in order to help detect HBE, If you can supply me with screenshots, or whatever then I'll happily create a document on it

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HBE/Aimbot is already handled pretty leniantly, the reason for this is because there's a lot of players which are really good at the game, and when you add lag into the mix it becomes hard to distinguish between aimbot and not

round basin
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Like 7 people actually have the aim in game rn to be considered between aimbot or not

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And they all happen to be raiders besides 2 aegis whoā€™s been a raider for so long

tight horizon
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just put smth like itā€™ll auto ban if you try to insert a script in the game ez

latent sinew
karmic nova
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the amount of times things aren't enough happens way too much

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and when that happens officer core just kicks in and normally says:

no gtfo

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i honestly do agree that there should be a change to who could ban individuals

but i do not agree that most of a whole division who goes around moderation gets restricted from handing ban punishments

peak radish
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this was really fun i remember it

peak radish
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@round basin what r u saying essentially

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bans should be handled by admins?

karmic nova
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part of their duties

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if sc can't ban people
it'll be only officer+

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and if it's only officer+...

game's cooked

lyric mulch
round basin
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Exploiters that are flying tping etc obv cheating sc/officer should still be able to ban freely with the evidence of that

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But when thereā€™s a case of a suspected exploiter being not so obvious with it and actively trying to hide it shouldnā€™t be allowed in the vote to rig it because they arenā€™t aware of that cheat

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@peak radish

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The case of that ray6 guy getting banned wouldā€™ve ended up with aegis banning him before Roblox if sc and low ranking officers werenā€™t ingovked

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And we did have proof from the Roblox ban wave and him being in dx9 server

peak radish
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im asking about this

karmic nova
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am saying that the main duty of sc is to moderate the game

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i don't think it should be revoked

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to most of em

peak radish
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I honestly do agree that there should be a change to who could ban individuals

karmic nova
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yes

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like officer trollface_aegis

peak radish
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so what do you mean by this

peak radish
# round basin And we did have proof from the Roblox ban wave and him being in dx9 server

this is what I'm crying out for to allow bans from other servers for breaking roblox TOS, buttttt unfortunatly tomls refuse to do so, I mean I do get their points about fabricating evidence and other ill intended bans, this could all be dismissed if we just allowed them to handle in-depth bans by UCs, similar to how AIA does their thing, we could do too.

Dunno why I even said all that but just to say that they need to exploit in DoD, or just break rules in dod itself, I'll bring this up for discussion, but it's a lot of complicated things tbf, I wasn't involved in the case you spoke of so idrk, unless its frightfully im guessing by the pfp

peak radish
karmic nova
peak radish
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šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€

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officers aren't ban-happy let's be honest

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we're a lot more in-depth and lenient with bans

karmic nova
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yea i know that for sure

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also i'd prefer being able to see votes that are done by officer-ucs depending on the rank of the sc

peak radish
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Nah

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Not happening

karmic nova
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how so

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we still haven't gotten a response to the gutter/jaguar incident

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or whoever was in it

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which is honestly not acceptable, in my opinion

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y'all can see what we do

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but we can't see what you do

peak radish
peak radish
karmic nova
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or will that still not happen

peak radish
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what promise

karmic nova
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not a promise

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just askin

peak radish
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promises are for little children

karmic nova
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ok buddy boy

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anyways

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will u guys do the votes there?

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or will it still be annoymous to all of sc and officer core

peak radish
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why would we

karmic nova
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why would you not if "that" exists

peak radish
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what votes are u even speaking of

karmic nova
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"ow votes"

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we can't even know what happens in those votes

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and poof someone gets unbanned

peak radish
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yes that's when evidence is either not acceptable (lacking) or more information was found out rather than just the perspective of the moderator

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we're not classifying it

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or anything

karmic nova
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can't we know the opinions of the overwatches then?

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if all of them/most of them vote?

peak radish
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you can know the result yea

karmic nova
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could you guys send it in the new chat then please?

peak radish
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about what

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And why

karmic nova
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because i want to see how the vote occured and how you guys came to a conclusion

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the vote about

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the kill all jews thingy

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with piggy and jaguar i think

round basin
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Roblox doesnā€™t do ban waves that often

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And it just so happened to. Catch everyone I said was

peak radish
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you may be right but there was an issue with this, and that's the thing I want to leave absolutly as if officers are subject to higher standards, such as being "respectable" in other games why not everyone

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i do see the immense issue with handling this but we can just recruit more people atp

maiden girder
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Not toml

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Dylan

peak radish
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oh

maiden girder
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This has only ever been dylans decision. Most, if not all toml from before all agreed any and all exploits should be pbannable without question

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But because some of his friends at the time were at fault, he decided no exploits used outside of the community were punishable.

peak radish
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what about breaking roblox tos (major ones) off dod

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if u can recaml

maiden girder
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@capt_jkl was the exploiter in question fun fact

peak radish
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Recall

maiden girder
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if it doesn't happen in the aegis community, no action

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Keep in mind all roblox groups also pick and choose what tos rules to really enforce in their communities

peak radish
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@last vigil @hot sluice if you can pitch it out and see a response šŸ™

maiden girder
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Online dating is a great example

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Shouldn't be allowed, but is

peak radish
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for minors yes

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it's against discord tos too

maiden girder
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I remember we made endorsements against it before, but idk how recent that os

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Is*

peak radish
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not like we get a lot of edaters here in ranks

maiden girder
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anyways yes, it's largely not a toml decision to not ban non-aegis affiliated exploiters

peak radish
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time for more change šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļø

maiden girder
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If I was toml I'd ban those individuals at the first hint of them saying they exploit or even mentioning it in any aegis server

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they'd appeal to ic I bet but I wouldn't not ban someone for bragging about exploiting

peak radish
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bragging about exploiting is so silly

maiden girder
peak radish
maiden girder
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not to mention dod isn't exactly the most stable

maiden girder
peak radish
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we had this discussion a while ago against the rest of officer core along with bloxy and ivan

maiden girder
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if it were up to me, any and all exploiters with any evidence on roblox would be banned.

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exploiting is illegal šŸ¤· not just a tos issue

peak radish
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if I can't exploit in other games or even break roblox tos largely on others games why would regular members be

maiden girder
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anyways buhbye glhf love you no homo

peak radish
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šŸ‘‹šŸ‘‹

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(locking post cuz it's gonna be a never ending cycle) closing note is that; we'll be pitching the issue to tomls who will bring the concern to chairman (kp was harrassed do not worry), so that future issues like these where someone openly or is found exploiting will result with punishments or further investigations than just be discarded off as there's no proof of them exploiting on DoD.

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let me know if you have any questions after the above msg and I'll answer these when I wake up

tardy glacier