#Another thought in my mind...

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verbal spear
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I think SC would have to approve of this

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Since Trialing SC aren't given mod until later ranks so there may be a reason as to why they don't have the ability to warn people

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And the UI shouldn't take up a large amount of the screen or be in the center if the screen, maybe just in the corner, since in-game moderation is not the only purpose of cuffs

steep fractal
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Those who have cuffs are trusted individuals. If the situation fits, they need to be able. Just like when divisional DC's has mod. Cuffs are the same thing but less authority.

steep fractal
verbal spear
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I personally wouldn't trust all individuals with cuffs with basic mod permissions

steep fractal
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i mean just like the ability to warn and every warn is being automatically logged to the server

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and with the user's username.

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So if mis-justice has happened the user who did it could be traced

verbal spear
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I think it'd be better to just let SC have this feature

steep fractal
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you can add additions to the warning like "Additional notes of the warning" section before approval of the warning

verbal spear
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less messy

steep fractal
verbal spear
steep fractal
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or RK'ing

steep fractal
verbal spear
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but that's what guns and cuffs are for

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and we can also request an SC

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which may take time but not forever

steep fractal
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but sometimes none are available and those who are available will need a proof from you

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some personnel don't record every time they join the game yk

verbal spear
steep fractal
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something they can actually work with

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yk

verbal spear
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if an SC is requesting proof that the border is in chaos because of no SC on, that SC is an idiot

steep fractal
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i mean they need proof to log the warning with i assume

verbal spear
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of course but proof to get on?

steep fractal
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no no

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proof while the TK'ing personnel is cuffed

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just you having him in cuffs is not enough

verbal spear
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Well most of the time, you can't report until you leave or stop recording

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So in the meantime, you can just kill them if they're TKing or keep them cuffed if possible

steep fractal
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sometimes ARD/PKSF don't record

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it's also a possibility

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and then what will you do

verbal spear
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Yeah but even if you are, you can't do anything until after the fact

steep fractal
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that's why i made this suggestion

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to handle them on-site when no in-game mod is available

verbal spear
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everyone in PKSF, ARD, and AIA would have to go through a course on how to properly warn people then

steep fractal
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yeah

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i don't see an issue with that

barren plume
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You do that in AOA

steep fractal
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if you join, you need to be accountable to everything that being added.

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nor actions

verbal spear
barren plume
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AFA+ can interven if no SC are online or they don't have mod

steep fractal
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AFA aren't allowed to warn or ban only for lessons if am not wrong

barren plume
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No they can

barren plume
steep fractal
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alright

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didn't know that.

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anyways, this suggestion can save time

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the question is if you trust said individuals

barren plume
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  • the divisionals can ask for SC support if they need it
steep fractal
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who has cuffs

barren plume
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I don't trust some even with cuffs

steep fractal
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furthermore, i think about it, maybe only for SC this feature will be beneficial

barren plume
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SC already get their own thing

steep fractal
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as you said, some can't be trusted

barren plume
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mot of the time a trailing SC gets help anyway

steep fractal
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this could be more convenient for them tho

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this suggestion

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or maybe

barren plume
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more convenient then a simple @ sc member or @ sc?

steep fractal
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give this suggestion method to personnel with over 6 - 12 months within the division

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those who are trusted

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or smth

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idk

barren plume
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eh sure

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but doubt this'll ever be a thing

steep fractal
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i meant with all divs

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you said the trust thing is the main thing

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if they are trusted enough, this could work

barren plume
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eventually the rule breaker either gets dealt with or gives up out of bordem

steep fractal
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eh idk

barren plume
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there would also need to be a way to log proofs if this was considered

steep fractal
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you saw the dumb kid who post yt vids on AEGIS trolling?

barren plume
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?

steep fractal
steep fractal
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just alting over and over

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he ain't getting bored

barren plume
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ah

steep fractal
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and i'm sure he's not the only one you see

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so this could help

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wait

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this suggestion could help to personnel over the rank of AFA

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trusted + have mods

barren plume
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Not all AFA+ have cuffs

steep fractal
barren plume
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those without them only can give themselves it for training purposes

steep fractal
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i mean like in major situations

barren plume
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at that point the AFA could just kick the mass tker

steep fractal
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server ban?

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or just a kick

barren plume
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in severe cases yes

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  • enough warns in under a minute can result in your perm ban
steep fractal
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ik

regal relic
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the game uses the adonis admin system

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u cant just make cuffs give warnings

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also SC / officer+ are the mods

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no any other division

steep fractal
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copy that

fervent oar
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i do not trust trialing ard pksf and sc with warn

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there was this one trialing pksf exiled in under 24 hours, if he had this power he would defo misuse

spring berry
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sc can warn

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if no sc

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just player report???

steep fractal
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this applies only if they are from ARD or PKSF

fervent oar
steep fractal
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If they are AIA or SC, they get this option right away.

fervent oar
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if you add a feature to cuffs

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everyone with cuffs get it

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you can’t just give it to specific ranks and time

steep fractal
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If you create a system for it, not necessarily.

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You could modify it for each division

vast bolt
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yo

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i aint reading allat

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but ill add reactions fr

steep fractal
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Okay, so I'll summarize.

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A new cuff system that will run on all divisions but it'll work on a different way.

spring berry
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I DENY

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y is bro upvoting his own suggestion 🗿

steep fractal
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Because there are too many trolling and rule-breaking individuals and sometimes no SC around, it is hard to keep track of all the rule-breakers. so the suggestion is to add to the cuff system the possibility to warn and it'll be for all divisions but for ARD and PKSF with restrictions. It'll instantly apply to AIA and SC individuals, and only to PKSF and ARD personnel within their divisions for over 6 months.

steep fractal
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of course this'll be in use only on emergencies.

spring berry
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  • #🚶player-reports exist?
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  • Could be abused
steep fractal
spring berry
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that takes away from sc's main duty

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still player eports exist

steep fractal
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PKSF and ARD get it after a long period of time

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for that exact reason

spring berry
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no

regal relic
steep fractal
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i mean, as the title says, it's just another thought in my mind

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you don't have to agree.

spare tartan
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its not possible without violating roblox tos probably

the game uses adonis, not a custom system
so to make this work you would have to make the person say the command they click on, which roblox isnt very fond of to say the least (making users say things using scripts has been done in the past to get tens of thousands of accounts falsely banned)

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also giving it to everyone with cuffs steals from sc and officer+ duties

royal kelp
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FUCKIN

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#🚶player-reports

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ALSO

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NO.

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IT REMOVES SC'S MODERATION DUTY

alpine badge
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but afaik perms to intervene without an sc asking afa-as to do so was rejected by toml

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as for the technical feasibility this would only really work with people who already have mod (who could just be given perms to use :warn without this convoluted setup), because adonis requires level 100 (moderator) for the :warn command. this requirement can be modified by custom mod level but this would end up giving every non-combative mod (which is obviously not acceptable), or creating a "psuedo-moderator" type level in which a compromised account would end up with access to the command bar and could just spam the :warn command, even for offline players, or could even just :warn all to target the entire server

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basically any implementation of this idea would range from adding...at least 50 "pseudo-moderators" to the admin list, all the way to giving a bunch of people mod who havent gone through even the slightest bit of training, and saying "please only use this in these VERY specific cases"

tiny portal
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This is easily abusable
All trialings have cuffs and they are usually not trusted

sharp kestrel
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no thoughts again ‼️

tiny portal
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Scepy depy peppy

steep fractal
regal geyser
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bad bad idea

worn pond
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Its really that simple

verbal spear
worn pond
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horrible idea (no offense)

ripe junco
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I hope yoavmne101 has no more thoughts in their mind

tiny portal
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Fr

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This suggestion basically deletes the purpose of sc

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Might as well get rid of sc with this suggestion

latent forum
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The main duties of SC are moderation

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So it's their job to enforce the rules

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Not ARD/PKSF

steep fractal
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It suppose to replace their absence

spring berry
steep fractal
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hush

spring berry
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20-1 ratio

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u got cooked

steep fractal
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I will if I'll get more thoughts

spring berry
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thought: stop thinking about suggestions

steep fractal
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nope (:

sharp kestrel
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blud needs to keep his thoughts to himself ngl

worn pond
ripe junco
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try saying your ideas out loud before posting it as a suggestion