Cooldown on raid events

[finite basin]

We have guidelines and that’s allowed to be given

[gritty coral]

@finite basin ok but what when aegis is getting demolished
we never receive any perks (if we do its rare)

[finite basin]

Coming from the Combat department, we can’t give perks to all 50 of aegis

If that makes sense

What I personally try to do when I host

If aegis is getting clapped easy then I remove a raider or two

[signal blade]

the deadest chat ever?

[finite basin]

But if they are just making it inside and fairly winning I’m not gonna change anything obviously

Realistically aegis always has the upside

It’s almost always 50v8

Or 30v6

UC’s can only take 5

So usually for a UC it’s 30v5

[gritty coral]

this was the thousandth message in the chat

[signal blade]

lol

[patent bobcat]

It's more about the fact that the event only ends when a meltdown happens.

A 2 hour event isnt a thing ANYONE wants, the maximum should be 20-30 minutes

Its always fun at the start but yall manage to make a game frustrating and annoying to those playing it

If 30 minutes pass and no meltdown happens then just give up

[gritty coral]

where is AIA pr serv at

[frosty thicket]

@thorny lark This is what I was talking about in the secret chat sorry I went afk for a sec

I think 30 minutes is too small of a time but he makes a good point

[thorny lark]

Ahh okay

Yeah I don’t agree with 2 hour raid events

Or even hour and a half

I think an hour max should be good

[frosty thicket]

So I talked to @desert grove and he says this stuff with "eggtanium and turkey" doesn't happen. So I have no idea what the guidelines section is in reference to.

[desert grove]

Hey hey hey

[gritty coral]

ok wait i have 9 images

one sec

[tidal compass]

Ez, don’t join the game

[desert grove]

I not say that

[tidal compass]

Ignore the pings

Don’t join

[frosty thicket]

Then what were you saying doesn't happen

[desert grove]

The extreme and exaggeration of what you said doesn’t happen, at least from AECD pov

[frosty thicket]

Cause I asked u about it and u just said "that doesn't happen"

[desert grove]

Events has a 2 raid events per month cooldown

[frosty thicket]

Bro

How many times do I gotta say it loser

[desert grove]

Cuz they aren’t getting stuff every 3 and a half minutews

[frosty thicket]

I ain't fuckin talking about the cooldown

I'm talking about the buffs

Eggtanium and turkey

[desert grove]

I not talking to u

Read the suggestion it brings up cooldown

I just stating the events dep one

[frosty thicket]

So why are people allowed to spawn in eggtanium then if you want it to be fair

That's the question I asked before

[gritty coral]

this was one raid event

the rest are in ard chat and I cant share it here

[desert grove]

Cuz if its 5 raiders vs 50 aegis they can have buffs

[frosty thicket]

Ok how hard was that to answer

[desert grove]

I was answering in aecd pov btw

But if its UCs who are making it overly unfair it can be brought up

[gritty coral]

in the scenario im talking about, refer to this tablist

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[desert grove]

Mini event or event?

[gritty coral]

event but there was also a minievent hosted right after this with almost the same number of raiders

[frosty thicket]

Yeah I also brought that limit to the raid events on the uc side up in overwatch chat too saucy idk if u saw that

That's an entirely separate issue that needs to be handled too

Lol

[gritty coral]

#🎫community-board message

[desert grove]

Obviously wasn’t that unfair seeing as aegis won?

[frosty thicket]

And yall wonder why I left as news pm. This is the ao I was dealing with.

[gritty coral]

right, but thats after multiple border calls and backup requests
none of the ard received any buffs throughout the "event"

they received an unfair advantage but lost due to issue with skill and antiraiders

[frosty thicket]

Don't waste ur energy trying to explain it obx

It all blows straight over his head

[gritty coral]

considering saucy is a ToML, it is important he grasps the depth of the issue

[frosty thicket]

Ain't gonna happen

[gritty coral]

if it was someone cough who wasnt, then i wouldve left it

[frosty thicket]

He can't even understand that his own AO position is for EC and not "AECD" ew

[gritty coral]

(the person of interest is in relation to https://discord.com/channels/412291659347263498/1246305775534608395)

[desert grove]

If you have nothing productive to say, respectfully, shut the fuck up

[frosty thicket]

And here we go resorting to cursing

[desert grove]

I’m not here to hear your shit

And there you go again resorting to unnecessarily being an ass

[frosty thicket]

Yeah I read that, that was really unnecessary

[desert grove]

If they were raiding together it’s not allowed

Seeing as it was a large event I can see why it was like a large scale raid

[gritty coral]

i have no idea how i held my ground in cr with @polar river that time 💀

[frosty thicket]

Well cr is completely unbalanced

[desert grove]

I will bring this up with HICOM

[frosty thicket]

If it wasn't such a dumbass corridor that was so easy to camp you likely would have been overrun easily

[gritty coral]

2 v 7 scenario and i just spammed my 4hm praying for the best

[desert grove]

But I am personally fine with some more restrictions on it, and a message to UCs about their over-doing of it

[polar river]

well as long as ur there is SUPER ez to camp but as soon as u die ur done

[gritty coral]

^

[frosty thicket]

Alright thanks.

That's you and Noah right now who I think are on board with it

Idk where light stands

[polar river]

it should be a full 360 but thats not whats revelant

[magic briar]

Make control room corridor have like ridges

so u can like try to get into cover

Or hear me out

make it loop around both ways

[gritty coral]

that would genuinely be so cool

[magic briar]

by the way

Why the fuck

do all the raiders in raid events

not even try meltsown

they just do fuck all

I was waiting in cr for like

20 minutes

also I think some aegis members got buffed when we got buffed

I can't confirm

But something has to change with the cr meta

someone said cr was easy to rake

it fucking isnt

I can hold it for ages

if ard don't have pksf or other divisional help they r fucked

so loop it around

I am done

Thank you

[brisk cairn]

Hm! Interesting says the one who wanted to serverban sa6ron cuz he was anti-raiding. And now you're saying "skill issue"? To be honest, you shouldn't discuss about this primarily because you're acting toxic but extremely toxic second of all those attending raid events get powerful stuff such as extra armor and raiders/wastelanders who wants to anti-raid event will be met with a serverban 💀

Plus, camping CR is extremely easy and making this completely unbalanced

[magic briar]

I will admit being anti raided against is annoying but raiders are having a bit of fun

so jus let em

[frosty thicket]

And this guy wants me to praise him for releasing the newspaper

[magic briar]

If they r spawn camping its diff

[frosty thicket]

As if

I'm boycotting nuggets

[gritty coral]

bless

[crimson patrol]

just

enjoy the event

smh

also theres cooldownn already

its like 8h i think between events

but yeah like

some overdo it

[patent bobcat]

Yea sure

For 40 minutes

Not for 2 hours and a half

[magic briar]

think it's an hour

No

it's an hour only I'm quite sure

[crimson patrol]

max 1h iirc

but that may be for mini events only

[magic briar]

Yes

[crimson patrol]

also just like enjoy it

[magic briar]

As ard it's shitty if ur doing ur dutues

but like try to enjoy

[crimson patrol]

theres been little raiding lately

[magic briar]

[crimson patrol]

yes raid more please

[gritty coral]

aint no way

[crimson patrol]

it gets boring

[crimson patrol]

what

[magic briar]

You wouldnt be safe if I was a raider

Be honest here

would you be safe

[gritty coral]

💀 💀 💀

[magic briar]

Ard hate me

I get yelled abuse in aegis

by ard

[crimson patrol]

for the past 2 months ive been struggling to find any raiders

that actually can do something

[magic briar]

most of the good raiders just camo roof or hangar

So it's uneventful

[gritty coral]

darius there is NO WAY ur saying this after what happened in https://discord.com/channels/618832723187990540/1239551905621999747

[magic briar]

Unknown

[crimson patrol]

happens every month

[gritty coral]

what?

[crimson patrol]

yes

[magic briar]

What is #unknown

😭

[crimson patrol]

###########

[gritty coral]

join ard to find out

[crimson patrol]

it always happens during that

there hasnt been a month were there werent any cancelled

[magic briar]

Maybe one day

[gritty coral]

right! so there ISNT a raiding issue these past two weeks!

[magic briar]

ard is supposed to be hard

[crimson patrol]

no there isnt

[magic briar]

so is. pksf and aia

It's depends on ur time zone honestly

I see 0 raiders when I'm on

cuz I was the raider

when I was on

maybe in the evenings

[patent bobcat]

We want it to be balanced, not easy

And the fact that raiders kept on raiding during an outbreak is just annoying

Especially that no body knew how those outbreaks kept on happening every 10 minutes, therefore it should have been considered that it might be exploited and that it would be better to stop raiding

And they only stopped when it became obvious to them that no one was enjoying the event

Anyways, I do still believe that 1 raid event per day is enough, and that it shouldn't exceed 1 hour

[magic briar]

No I wasn't referring to this thread I was just saying it is hard to like get into

cuz I was talking about how id like to be ard one day

yesterday was quite shit

outbreak for like 5 hrs

cuz it kept happening

i think the other divisions should help too

be it capturing robotics

protection etc

[patent bobcat]

Every division has a role to play in each protocol

But it's fair to say that some divisonals were just tried of the continuous outbreaks so they left the game

Today has been alot better tho, dont think any outbreak happened yet so should be alright

Nvm, one did

[magic briar]

yea

ig

last night was crazy

I think it lasted till server restart

right

[polar river]

yes and when all but like 3 divs r raiding thenn

[polar river]

happend again like 30 mins ago

[magic briar]

LOL

[polar river]

it was expolited

[magic briar]

Personally if I was a divisional

[polar river]

prob luna tbh

[magic briar]

I would be capturing robotics for y'all

cuz I'm chill like rhat

that

[patent bobcat]

Crates dont even spawn anymore

[polar river]

I do, i go there every 15 mins and get it
they have been spawning which is why robtix dosent do anything
there hasnt been a crate in a hot min(when ive been online)

[magic briar]

Huh

[polar river]

im too good, i make sure they dont

[magic briar]

Nice

really?

[patent bobcat]

It probably is anyways

[magic briar]

where is it coming from

[patent bobcat]

Actually I will just delete

[magic briar]

I remember cz zombies would be stuck in raider spawn lava

surely not

[patent bobcat]

Aight so in short

[gritty coral]

4 more after restart

[magic briar]

dw I don't even know what u mean

[magic briar]

why how

[gritty coral]

its not bugged apparantly pricefvl is exploiting

[magic briar]

is someone cheating

[patent bobcat]

I'm just saying that naturally, you wont have outbreaks each 20 minutes

[gritty coral]

https://gyazo.com/603c90e6be253114f0c05df330b2fbb6

[patent bobcat]

Are u joking or for real?

Bruh

[magic briar]

u sure he isn't like getting infected on his aegis alt and then tping into spawn

?

[polar river]

was this the guy who tired to apeal his bl?

[gritty coral]

multiple ard hr got on (even OCE got on - impossible) and confirmed it to be exploiter

[gritty coral]

wdym

[polar river]

#1227506899813929000 message

[patent bobcat]

@gritty coral if it is a bug, wouldnt it take place equally across the whole day? Instead of it taking place like 5-8 times during 4 hours

[magic briar]

Alright

makes sense

[gritty coral]

"Attempting to extract the identities of anonymised parties - for any reasons including harassment or revenge is a punishable offence."

[magic briar]

Ok they shouldn't accept new players into aegis like new accounfs

[merry pagoda]

So, all these 10 outbreaks of yesterday was exploited?

[polar river]

didnt it say fvl?

[magic briar]

Cuz u assume there is a border blocking wastelanders in aegis spawn

[polar river]

my bad the fam who tired to apeal is bl

[magic briar]

if he can't get an aegis alt easily

[gritty coral]

the first one was crate, all of them after was exploited

[magic briar]

less outbreaks

[gritty coral]

if you're referring to case 1025, that is an FVL family member

[magic briar]

can u get infected from a biting zombie or is just anyone who is sick with it

[polar river]

ok yea, mb same Fam who tired to get un bl

[gritty coral]

potentially

[polar river]

there is only 1 fvl fam 💀

[magic briar]

if you can from a biting zombie, you would assume he tps into an area when infected, zombie gets trapped and he can loop infect on alts

[gritty coral]

considering multiple uc+, a toml, 3 ard hr and 4+ other ard were ingame, that level of exploiting would be almost impossible to be unnoticed

[magic briar]

alrigjt

[patent bobcat]

Yea but again, isnt it weird how those outbreaks only happen like 4-5 hours each day?

Not the whole day

[gritty coral]

its weird that

one server

we had infection, upon infection

upon infection

isnt it

[patent bobcat]

Exactly

[gritty coral]

infection happened, 30 mins later, spreads to about

[magic briar]

there could be anti cheat updates to prevent this

pretty easily

[gritty coral]

everyone in aegis spawn

[gritty coral]

potentially because the exploiter decided to leave the game/got banned

and then spreads outside

which is why it isnt a bug

cadets walk around,

get everyone else sick

if it was a bug, it would occur day in and day out

not for 7 hours and then stop

till like 10 mins ago

[patent bobcat]

Yea but SC couldn't find anyone who could be the exploiter

[magic briar]

For people with admin, infection logs could be introduced

[patent bobcat]

Even the image that suggests pricefvl did it, I mean, it could be true but then how

[polar river]

he could just be joing and spamming it

[gritty coral]

https://www.roblox.com/users/1728354281/profile

[patent bobcat]

It does exist

[gritty coral]

thats the person "doing"

the infections

[patent bobcat]

Okay how

[magic briar]

were they checked

[odd imp]

It’s not

I’m not going to call out names

But one of the raid events did that

Gave everyone eggtanium and like health boosts

[patent bobcat]

In the event hosted by cut data

[magic briar]

because if u link who was first infected

[patent bobcat]

He said that it wont happen it it leads to unbalanced fights

[magic briar]

and at what time

u can see the alts and monitor them

to see what's being done

[patent bobcat]

No

I can infect someone

Without infecting myself

If I'm an exploited

Exploiter*

[merry pagoda]

I'm still confused about why they like to have a revenge on a game... Like, they can just leave it.

[magic briar]

Oh yes the infection needle

I forgot all about it

[polar river]

other than they basicly dont work

[patent bobcat]

Idk, they feel like if they were treated unfairly so they decide to go on a rampage

Of attacks

[magic briar]

cz infection needle doesn't work?

[brisk cairn]

no bugged if I'm not wrong

[polar river]

knowing this games code, prob bugged

[magic briar]

So that rules it out

probably

[polar river]

join qa and find out?

[magic briar]

plus it would be hard to loop make it without being spotted

[brisk cairn]

I am in QA

[polar river]

like the game

and find out if bugged

[brisk cairn]

I think I gotta use my mod

[magic briar]

What if u blacklist non ard aegis personnel from using ard equipment

[brisk cairn]

Gotta get perms

[polar river]

dms

oki we will find out once pew can join

[merry pagoda]

I'm most confused about how they get access to the game's program (Unless there must be someone giving that to them).

[polar river]

Update: cz needle no work

[magic briar]

We're rd

Fix

[restive folio]

I did one for like 15 minutes with me and lazor raiding

[finite basin]

Ok pal

Now I see

You loser

[finite basin]

Soooo yk what the definition of anti raiding is in the 6 family

It’s as many people as possible get online

And camp the only ways out

Makes raid events boring asf

So yes I attempted to get them to stop

And I never wanted to server ban anyone and I didn’t

Smh

I kicked someone cause I got the perms 🤡

So that the raid event wouldn’t go to waste since like saucy said we only get 2 a months

And it makes it incredibly boring when your aegis trying to raid and you can barley leave spawn

[frosty thicket]

BOYCOT

[frosty thicket]

Idk sounds like a skill issue to me

[finite basin]

ok bpal

[brisk cairn]

Sounds like a skill issue tbh

[finite basin]

cry abt it

[brisk cairn]

Why should I cry about it?

I just expressed an opinion on this

[frosty thicket]

I think ur the one who's crying

[brisk cairn]

Yeah, it's your issue if the raid event becomes boring

Everyone should have fun no?

Not only the ones attending the raid event

I guess it's fair on both sides

[tidal compass]

Personally I think nuggets is more skibidi than you guys

Correct me if I’m wrong though

[frosty thicket]

Idk what that means so I have no opinion

[tidal compass]

Fair

Cuz ur old

Jk but nuggets knows what it is

💀

[frosty thicket]

Hey if being old means I don't understand obnoxious phrases then sure

I'm old

[tidal compass]

Fair enough

[gritty coral]

ok im locking this its going on for no reason

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