Remove One shot guns

[pine kestrel]

This game is the most Pay to win ive ever played Bro like you c
ant even play for 5 minutes without being sniped from across the whole map..

[balmy siren]

All i know is that this suggestion will definitely get bombarded with negative answers lol

[fluid zenith]

be ready to get hated on by all the demi gods
("we spent money on it now you can't change it")

[swift hemlock]

never make a suggestion again please

[gritty dust]

The game is structured around them to the point outing them entirely will kill the playerbase so..

But yeah the meta not revolving around one shot weapons can be rough when scrooge mc duck who spend 50k Robux on pixel guns fires 4 one shot weapons per second would be nice

(Yes I'd like for one shot guns to not be the meta but that's not feasible at this point)

[jagged escarp]

It's not that bad (Well, comparing others who are pay to play).

[supple wigeon]

good suggestion but will be hated on a lot

[balmy siren]

no shit

[supple wigeon]

no need to be like that, im just stating the obvious smh

[gritty dust]

SC shotgun counts as a one shot gun

[supple wigeon]

sc shotgun doesnt one shot most people lol

[balmy siren]

Chairman won't approve this either way for money

[supple wigeon]

obviously

[golden yoke]

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[ocean tree]

ha no

[golden yoke]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1136684769065832639/1139402266886021160/caption-1-2.gif

[ocean tree]

only count 1s guns that are 1shot

not shotguns

: )

[jagged escarp]

(Shotguns only if you have a good aim, so kinda a bit).

But yeah, 1S literally says that.

[supple wigeon]

new shotgun for 100k robux

fires 50 bullets per shot which each split off into 25 cluster bombs which bounce around for 3 seconds before eviscerating anything within 300m (contains 20 bullets in one mag and has a very high fire rate)

[light sonnet]

OMG

ILL BUY THIS

[fluid zenith]

add a f-14 tomcat for 50k robux in the next update

[gritty dust]

Shotguns are fine

Think the main issue is the 1 shot weapon spam that stems from x33 eggatron firework and so on, making people do nothing but pop shot constantly

Maybe an equip speed nerf to every weapon that does over 80 damage could mitigate this?

1s musket & the f2p sniper are prob fine as is, more the pistols I'm concerned about

Ap buff to auto weapons (not 3c or 4hm) could also help with this, people resort to one shot spam because of how hard it is to burn though armor (at least that what it partially seems like to me)

[light sonnet]

nah

thats just complaining honestly

the game had always been p2w

and no matter what you say IT IS NOT GONNA CHANGE

because the chairman wants money

this had already been suggested a million times

and obviously never implemented

[craggy cradle]

It could change if people just stopped submitting to it dude. The reason Dylan’s business model works is because people actually buy into it and create an unfixable scenario. People defend his ass too like this isn’t the worst direction to steer a game into. You know the p2w shit is outrageous.

[light sonnet]

people defend it because too much people had already buyed stuff for it to get nerfed/removed

the p2w isnt going nowhere

[craggy cradle]

The issue could still be fixed even with the amount of people that bought it. They may have purchased it expecting a one-shot gun, but it’s still a gun in the end, subject to nerfs and buffs.

[delicate snow]

no noob dont remove it

[light sonnet]

individual guns get nerfed time to time

like 5ss

but they suggest to entirely nerf all p2w

[gritty dust]

Mfw like 3 maybe 4 guns = all of p2w

[craggy cradle]

Yeah, so that it’s not actually pay to WIN. Any competent gamepass monster is basically unkillable by an f2p. It’s by no means fair, and it’s not just the win rate of fights, it’s the boring ass combat the one shots create. People spam x-33, 1s and firework over and over peaking out of cover and you can’t move forward or anything. It’s supported by pocket reloads as well. Pay to win just shits on the combat dude. It’s not good for the game.

And the struggle of being f2p is even worse. You grind 10 minutes for your gear, you start raiding and get 1sed by some pk. Now you have to go mine ores again to get your armor. It just wastes time and makes gameplay unrewarding.

Removing pocket reload and increasing reload time for one-shots could make them more tolerable.

F2ps have the most boring gameplay too. Only 3 guns that are actually useable, and even then 2 of them got nerfed for being free. Very little guns and content. No shotguns for f2ps either. It just locks people out of content with paywalls.

[noble igloo]

I mean, you except someone walking away from a 7.62 being put straight through their forehead?

[craggy cradle]

Imo sniper headshot onetaps are fine. They take skill and make sense. It’s the infinite spam and low-risk use of stuff like 1s that’s full of shit.

[noble igloo]

buff the 1s

[gritty dust]

People can tank x33 rounds to the head if you stack titanium light kev and the health items so

[craggy cradle]

Give it oneshot aoe

[fluid zenith]

im gonna make an obscure reference

when campers have the roof under control, they spam the same guns at a horde of weak aegis personnel with all their crazy strong guns
its like protoss vs zerg from starcraft 2

only way aegis wins is if they overwhelm

OR they win with their DEWs

[craggy cradle]

When aegis is camping caves, they spam the same guns at the raiders hiding in the holes in the walls until the raiders can push, losing almost all of their numbers in the process. Same boring ass gameplay that nobody enjoys, just different side not having fun.

[formal swan]

NO

[fluid zenith]

Touché

[lofty tapir]

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[rapid kettle]

Erm

Ez 🖐🙄☝️🤓

[terse compass]

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but uh, never going to happen

chairman will not remove gamepasses, only add

[honest depot]

add a new 1 shot gun with inf ammo and 1000 shots per second but it only does damage to zenomorfs

[sinful pebble]

No

[muted mica]

if u

beat me in rcl

ill agree with u

[pine kestrel]

mony hungery

[final carbon]

I actually agree. I kinda hate the one shot guns. It kinda removes most of the challenge

Like tap someone on the toe is a instant kill

But the chairman is greedy

A uh possible balancing is have it so dews and other energy weapons has a battery life and once the batteries run out of energy they can't use the dew again. Sounds pretty bleh but it would help prevent mass 1 shotting spam. Even if its only applied to the one shot guns so the 4hm and 3c is still fine

[sinful pebble]

No

[lofty abyss]

So you want to completely remove sniper rifles and some shotguns from the game?
I agree that something needs to be done to deal with 1 shot weapons but I don't think this is the way of doing it

[lofty abyss]

I think thats funny lol

you can probably recharge them at certain stations around the map and in the border

and would give convential guns more of a purpose

[final carbon]

Yea add a charging station at uh behelium which takes a battery or uh

Hmmm

Aed wing ig

That is probably the most fitting area

[frail cedar]

aint nobody charging shit

[lofty abyss]

except their credit cards

[final carbon]

It could also be used to charge pksf

[lofty abyss]

lol

yeah rechargable shield

[final carbon]

One batt for dew and shield

[frail cedar]

we recharge shield at armory

[lofty abyss]

yeah but if you have extra armor it goes poof

[final carbon]

I could probably design a recharger dod prop. I'm not a 3d modeler tho

[honest depot]

by that logic conventional guns should have limited ammo

and you need to pick up more bullets

[final carbon]

Its mainly looking at balancing the 1 shots

[honest depot]

they will never change anyway

so we can scheme and theorize until we are blue in the face

[mental gyro]

fr

[lofty tapir]

One shot guns are fine. It would be nice if they weren't gamepasses that are overpriced af

[little ruin]

n

o

[little ruin]

yes

[muted mica]

remove 1 taps and u will have tanks running around

[rapid kettle]

oops

[delicate snow]

plus like half of the ppl I encounter tank the 1s

soooo

nuh

maybe in some world

not now doe

[ocean tree]

who the fuck are you encountering???????

do u count pksf shield

[delicate snow]

yes

literally every active divisional I encounter

pksf shield is debatable tho

[fringe bobcat]

uhm yes it does wtf

it has fucking insane armor pen

i got 1 shot with full armor and hp

from 100 studs away

100hp 590 armor

fucking 50 armor pen

[lofty tapir]

good

they need that shit

The Initiate corps won't straighten themselves out.

[gritty dust]

So the SC shotgun just has no spread or..?

Or were they just using the f2p sniper

[fringe bobcat]

no it was the sc shotgun

[spice flint]

only allow 1 DEW weapon to be equipped at a time, and add a min cooldown between shots for the one-shot ones

[delicate snow]

this would never happen

[muted mica]

Remove 1s and this isn’t an issue

[swift hemlock]

tell me you’re new to the game without saying it

[spice flint]

chill… sorry for making y’all mad at a suggestion

[wintry mango]

Your hate on trying to make this game more fun for everyone is really weird...

Fact is, you dont have to remove dew weapons to do that, but you can search for ways to make it more fair, such as giving better weapons to aegis or giving them better armour so that lower grade dew weapons are less effective and so on..

But attacking everyone who suggests an idea, even if it's bad, isnt exactly productive by any means

Removing dew weapons wont ever happen, but we could make them more accessible

[balmy siren]

just do constructive criticism fr

[wintry mango]

Exactly^

[swift hemlock]

this is not a way to make the game more fun for everone

ive been here for over 4 years

its been this way

and it wont change

[wintry mango]

I dont see how difficult it is to give better weapons to players, even though it is unlikely to happen it could still happen.

And I also first joined in 2020, and frankly many changes that everyone was against did take place

[swift hemlock]

that is not the point of this suggestion

he is asking to remove one shot guns

[wintry mango]

And the most recent of them is the divisional keycard, of which everyone was so sure that it wont happen anytime soon and yet it did

[wintry mango]

And I did clarify earlier that there are other options that dont harm anyone and benefit specific groups, those options should be considered

[swift hemlock]

i am fine with adding more weapon choices for f2p players but that is not what this suggestion was asking for

if it negatively impacts the amount of money chairman earns from this game then it wont be added

[wintry mango]

There is a different equation to it though.

Many players dont spend any money on this game because they know that a 2k weapon wont do anything againt a 12k weapon.

But if we were to make the lower priced weapons more attractive then we could very easily increase the amount of game passes bought, whether or not it will increase the amount of money this game makes is a thing idk, but it could

[muted mica]

Easy fix remove 1s make pksf shield take headshot damage

No more 1 taps

Shield is still op

Ez

[craggy cradle]

They are monkeys incapable of deeper thought. That’s just how it goes man.

[sacred quartz]

lowering the gamepasses price

wont be fair to anyone

whos bought it

and a g36c can kill a kid wielding a 12k weapon

its just a matter of skill which is pretty evident that aegis does not have

removing, balancing or anything that has to do with negatively changing one shot guns or dews will be met with ALOT of negativity

this causes dod to die even faster

[balmy siren]

The word "skill" has no use if the raider has extra hp and titanium and dew

Its just aim and click

[rapid kettle]

its like 2 or 3k for 3c and 3c can melt people

if u can aim

[sacred quartz]

which can all be destroyed easily

if you had skill

[balmy siren]

nah, i have no good armor

Or robux anyways

[rapid kettle]

just join a div

if u join a combative one

u get armour

and u get a gun

that is not even bad

[sacred quartz]

womp womp

[balmy siren]

i know, planning ard or sthd

[rapid kettle]

ard literally get like a disabled x33

its not even bad fr

[balmy siren]

how womp womp if 500$ is like 10k or more on my country

Ain't no way am spending that much

[sacred quartz]

hows that my fault

sounds like a you issue

[balmy siren]

how's that my fault

[sacred quartz]

and not my issue

[balmy siren]

am not the one who decides the value of money

[sacred quartz]

nor the games issue

really

[balmy siren]

So not my issue

[sacred quartz]

then dont complain about it in a group when no one can do anything

[rapid kettle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/899351615952261140/1136732017871028294/HOH.gif

[balmy siren]

i didn't complain tho lol

Its called opinion

[sacred quartz]

womp womp

[balmy siren]

Fridge

[wintry mango]

Yep, I can confirm that it is very effective against 500 armor with 1s or 5s raiders.

[wintry mango]

I never said lower the prices

[wintry mango]

Either ways, nothing is gonna change, so no need to continue on speaking about it

[honest depot]

Certainly this is a banned suggestion anyway

[balmy siren]

nah i checked the only thing about removing guns is for academy ranks

[tiny steeple]

L suggestion tbh