balcony shields

[unique temple]

so, yk how u can't camp in hangars much since it would be classified as spawncamping or its easy to spawncamp there

anyway, i suggest either a wall or window for balcony that can be raised and lowered by sc

basically during processing it would be lowered but during incursion and lockdown it woudl be raised so it would have an effect in giving aegis a physical shield to stop being spawncamped while also keeping raiders somewhat happy

literately just put a wall between the pillars on the balcony edge

@haughty inlet reactions pls

[haughty inlet]

yes sir

[clear yoke]

make it crackable but like one of the ones that takes longer

🤷‍♀️

[brazen fossil]

You know its really easy to deal with hangar campers

Have sc go down processing elevator into engineering corridor and then go up tower elevator to SC room and lockdown the hangar door

[blissful gyro]

they are NOT allowed to do that....

[brazen fossil]

Boo hoo

[brazen fossil]

no

[mossy ibex]

skill issue

[earnest lion]

Says whi

[mental sonnet]

no just use :tp me waypoint-tower

[mental sonnet]

worth the exile tbh

[cobalt dawn]

no

[unique temple]

no, it would be in sc room

so it would be uncrackable

[clear yoke]

make sc room crackable

[exotic marlin]

Allow O+ into SC room

[trail root]

I don't think it will be that necessary. Raiders already know if they spawn camp, they'll face punishment and if 2-3 AEGIS are shot while they're in spawn corridor because raiders happen to be passing by, that shouldn't be considered spawn camping (since spawn camping is deliberate and consistent).
As for camping the hangar, I think raiders should be allowed to do so on the condition that they will face severe punishment if they shoot AEGIS personnel that are exiting spawn.

[odd pollen]

I ain't reading allat

[junior flume]

Yeah raiders also usually don’t give a fuck and still blast anyone coming out

[trail root]

[trail root]

do it or kick from tilted

[unique temple]

nope

raiders often be annoying saying they aren't

then they complain like little shits to sc ow or dsc

being like: euuguh this sc banned me for no reason

then trying to trash on us and make our lives living hells until we unban them

we are literately like: just wait a day or smth for the server tp reset

[trail root]

I see that your reasoning is emotionally charged and therfore biased or unreliable

[trail root]

If that's the case, I think the problem lies in execution of enforcement rather than the structure of the border or how the rules are

What I mean by that is that the message needs to be conveyed to raiders in a way that avoids that verbal back and forth

[unique temple]

raiders are a shitshow to deal with

[trail root]

only if you don't approach it correctly

lots of raiders respect me and I respect them

[unique temple]

it is impossible to reason with people who cannot comprehend logical thinking

[trail root]

thats how I get through to them

[unique temple]

they will never respect any sc

[trail root]

I think it's just impossible for you

I manage just fine

[unique temple]

are you sc

[trail root]

I think it's obvious that I am not

[unique temple]

yes

[trail root]

I was an intern if that helps lol

[unique temple]

no

interns dont do much moderation shit

ok

[trail root]

Anyway, it's irrelevant. The reason why raiders aren't respecting you is because you simply have not earned it yet

Not because you're SC and in an authoritive position

[unique temple]

how the fuck do i earn respect with the 6 family

[trail root]

I managed it

[unique temple]

cuz you were a raider urself

[trail root]

And it was when Tilted and 6 despised each other

[unique temple]

ok

fine

[trail root]

You can get started with a professional but flexible approach to them

[unique temple]

even if u were to ban them on good terms, then u would still get shit on by the rest of the 6 family

[trail root]

It would quickly be resolved if you swiftly and professionally explain it to them

[unique temple]

nop

[trail root]

Yes

I have done this before

Trust me

[unique temple]

not happening because i dont want to but because they would just be screaming in #🌐global while im trying to communicate to them

[trail root]

Yes, temporarily because you dont have their respect yet

[unique temple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/781649972691992616/823898657152696360/image0-1.gif

[trail root]

That is why you get it prior

[unique temple]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-gif-26414895

[trail root]

Well then you'll have to learn to live with the problem I guess since that's the optimal solution

[sleek plank]

I've been killed when trying to go out of spawn before, so.. yeah they don't care lol. Add shields.

[trail root]

I think we all know that before this was even posted, this had no chance of being implemented

since suggestions related to the border's structure practically never happen

[trail root]

I've been wrongfully cuffed before and I didn't like it, remove cuffs from everyone or make it where I can't be cuffed

[sleek plank]

That is a completely different example.

But okay.

[trail root]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay

[sleek plank]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-dance-kitty-kitty-dance-dance-gif-21479771

[trail root]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-22-cat-22-gif-1269004317513322794

[sleek plank]

But yeah I do doubt it would ever be implemented, even if it was supported majorly.

[cobalt dawn]

@unique temple so aegis are allowed to be in spawn hallway shoot at us and we can’t shoot back?

[cobalt dawn]

Maybe don’t shoot at us

Or don’t be right there when we are crossing

[unique temple]

no

if they do that then u can shoot back

[cobalt dawn]

Are they also allowed to hard scope at us

With a sniper

Can we shoot back at that

[unique temple]

if

they

fire at you

then you can fire at them

but if they are leaving without holding any weaponry and are just equipping armour or smth

then u can't shoot until they leave the spawn hallway area or they fire back

[cobalt dawn]

I mean like

If they are sitting in spawn

Aiming at you in in first person with a sniper

Can we kill them

[unique temple]

aiming is basically firing at you

if they holding a gun

then they dont have spawn protection

[cobalt dawn]

So it’s allowed?

[unique temple]

yeah

but if they just run out gunless

then thats spawncamping

[cobalt dawn]

Ok

Thanks

That cleared up a lot

[unique temple]

well

thats how i run

different sc have different definitions

but mine is that

[cobalt dawn]

I keep having issues with sc warning me for people hard scoping me

[unique temple]

notify me or any uo

[cobalt dawn]

Ok

[frozen bone]

Honestly a way this whole spawn camping issues can be fixed for aegis is simply have more then one exit to AEGIS spawn

then the rule doesn't have to exist

[trail root]

true!

[sleek plank]

Yeah that would probably be more simple.

[trail root]

A corridor that's attached to that room armory and the rec room is attached to that runs all the way to like roof elevator or behind processing would be cool

[signal condor]

nothing against you or sc but i feel its an interesting idea to turn that around

i have yet to ever hear an sc go "how the fuck do i earn respect with the initiates"

just straight to warn warn warn etc

[sacred nest]

i mean, do u want them to not warn people for breaking the rules lol

[signal condor]

but when it comes to anyone other than newbie raiders its "how can i get them to respect me"

[signal condor]

not really the point

the point being that raiders sure do seem to get a lot of...leniency?

you basically have to exploit or bug abuse to get banned as a raider

and in a certain person's situation, even that isnt enough

[sacred nest]

agreed

but for the most part, raiders dont really have many rules

outside of bug abuse, exploits, alts, and those more basic game rules

unless they are someone ofc cause yk

[signal condor]

sure but the attitude of "how do i gain their respect" is a bad attitude to have when that isnt the same attitude being shown to all players

aegis ends up getting sc converging on locations if they dare to do one thing wrong but raiders seem to get a significantly higher number of chances unless AIA or an HR is involved

[sacred nest]

agreed, but it is still good to show respect to others even if they are rude to u yk

also tbf sc are mainly meant to deal with aegis

[signal condor]

my point isnt that they shouldnt show respect to raiders, they should, but is that focus being applied to aegis as well

[sacred nest]

i see what you are saying

[signal condor]

given that officers cant moderate if theyre ingame their focus includes everyone now

[sacred nest]

this is true

[signal condor]

of course i honestly think officers should have the priority because theyre a position of seniority

but thats another matter

[sacred nest]

officers should just be allowed to help moderate the game, even if there is SC

id say tho, if it is aegis related leave sc to deal with it unless they are busy, cause sc is the mp of aegis so it makes sense

but general moderation can be done by both

anyhow, not rlly related to this suggestion

[signal condor]

anyways balcony shields good yes

[sacred nest]

yes

less raider hangar camping

always a W for less camping

[signal condor]

most annoying shit ever

theres no back door to hangar

so u cant flank

[frozen bone]

Thats why raiders use it in the first place. Just to one shot people who exit AEGIS spawn. So their funny K/D number goes up resulting in 0 benefits.

[unique temple]

i probably made this while i was sleepy dumb

[cobalt dawn]

befriend 6 mods

[unique temple]

whom are

[cobalt dawn]

6 server

[odd pollen]

have i befriended literally anyone in the 6' family

[cobalt dawn]

no

[odd pollen]

great

[cobalt dawn]

they all hate you

[odd pollen]

for WHAT

[trail root]

Surely I've befriended every 6' member right?

[cobalt dawn]

ye

[trail root]

epic

[frozen bone]

Why would matter

[odd pollen]

they dont like me cuz im a "cliff camper" :/

[frozen bone]

AEGIS designated post: Cliffs.

[odd pollen]

RIGHT?