#What should be in the city update?
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Wastelander gameplay
wastelander gameplay sucks and is boring rn and repetitive and theres nothing to do
add like
robberies they can do or something
I want it to be run for raiders
@fickle wharf maybe move lessons and O+ trainings to the city rather than hanger
make it so when you enter city you become a citizen 🙏
raider content
firework revert
game optimization
crosshairs that dont have delay
caves and cliff reword
fix reactor
Oooh, another good clloned suggestion
wouldnt a city update basically require just a second game and would split player count even further?
itd probably increase player count due to much more player retention for civilians
mayhaps
smuggling would definitely have to be a feature though
raiders smuggling weapons and viruses into the city
Could be cool, mores duties for combatives
Searching civs for weapons, smuggled items etc
cant wait to play 30 fps 🗣️
A bar to drink, count as off duty for Aegis
who the fuck is @shadow mirage
is that your alt
a alt
dog17 family?
an alt* 🤓
No, just an alt, ya now
An alt.*🤓
cameras are a backlisted suggestion
am i making a suggestion?
not a offical suggestion
suggesting to the suggestion
the last person who made this exact question was Marshel
and you know how that ended
💀
CAR BOMBS
Wastelanders should be able to become citizens. As a citizen they spawn in the city with a citizen visa or something. They're not permitted guns or any illegal goods. As a citizen you can fulfill jobs for aegis or other companies. Perhaps even establish your own. You are permitted to enter the wasteland through a pulse or escort out and to return you have to renter when the gate opens. Citizens will be checked for weapons but be able to skip booths due to them already passing it.
As AEGIS you will primarily focus on the border. Perhaps FA+ can do patrols in the city. AIAs will be able to organise shakedowns on peoples houses if there are suspected terrorist behaviour.
MDF will be able to patrol the city at will
STHD will remain wasteland focused
PKSF will be able to be called in if there is a riot or unrest.
SC will be able to go around occasionally to check for any unrest.
Raiders will be able to take over the train to allow anyone to enter the city from the wasteland train station but this will set off alarms. Raiders will have jobs to smuggle in guns to the border. Perhaps to a black market dealer inside there. The dealer should have limited supplies of cheap guns that can be stocked and given to citizens if raiders supply him.
Ofc a divisional sector with ard and aia offices that could function as a city spawn point for them. Idk what to do regarding combatives but AIA could have the usual chat rooms but for citizens and ard could idk have a research area for actual making immunity as well as getting blood samples to create said immunity. Which then could be given to the highest ranking personnel that needs it first.
Raiders could steal said immunities and sell it on the market. Raiders could also steal supplies from warehouses to perhaps make that bomb that was in the big DoD event which can destroy the front gate.
Perhaps a new protocol for riots where divisionals focus on the city over the border
Public executions would be cool af but idk if thats legally possible
Perhaps citizens could sign up to certain hired services kinda like amcs. Hmm
But have it rough for citizens. Like the corporation wants to force them to join aegis. With aegis getting free housing.
Don't
allat for the update to get delayed another 4 years
Aegis divisionals could all have different housing in the divisional area with ard, aia getting apartments, aed getting a workers man like housing. Very cheap style, sc, sthd and mdf military esk
Since aia and ard aren't like military in focus
itd be cool for aia apartments only to have subtle hints that they are aia apartments when inside them
since it wouldnt work well with lore if it was blatantly obvious
i think the actual game should be fixed before adding a city
consider fixing the gunscript
Frl
What about ARD
Out of everything I want this
I want to execute initiates.
Executions would make this game so entertaining
imma execute you.
Arresting would be interesting
Youre first bud
Omg you cook so much 💙
To go around curing and getting people for ahdp
I've talked to like blout about this. If possible When AIA finds a traitor aka a citizen that is working with raiders. And after chatting to them they will have SC announce the execution then the AIA will list out all the crimes on a podium before having PKSF kill the individual. They will then be teamed subject.
Thats the idea
Considering lore wise AIA is anti-terrorism and with the city they can act like that.
chat is this real
Just imagine how sick that would be
Very dystopian
If roblox allowed it
Having AIA abduct your neighbors in the night and the next day they are executed as traitors
Can we make the AIA do the executions?
Or the other way is fine
Seems to bring more of a fear factor towards AIA
Rather than every division
Well yea AIA lore wise is terrifying and uses their presence to make sure the city doesn't rebel. Again other divisions like sc and PKSF would be involved.
AIA from that aspect is a suppression making sure noone turns against the corporation. Using hitman on individuals seen as risk, abducting and executing others. Their jobs are dangerous enough to ensure they're not targeted they are fully covered up with a voice muffler.
I just see alot of possibilities for AIA specially if we have citizens. SC and ARD too. Hell with how AED are engineers it could be in the future if you are a citizen and parhaps do something you could apply for ARD and AED but thats unlikely. Since those three including AIA are non military
SC could also have more duties if the site is calm.
Orgashi keep cooking
Mate I'm a designer. I design environments with my pixel art and oh boi
My mind goes crazy with ideas when I see a brutalist styled city
Brutalist is my favorite architecture
Its basically like letting a hungry dog near a frightened chicken when it comes to me and cities.
Please fix all these bugs before you even thing about making the city again
Clloned and blout are designing the city / improvments to areas. The gun script and bug fixes really fall on chairman since coded isn't doing coded things now to my knowledge.
oh
But its not clloneds and blouts purpose to rework the gun script. Thats more for the coders. So let them make the design while the bugs are being fixed
Get both
Rather then putting off the system
Let the wastelanders be the first to enter
come on we all know chairman is going to remove the helicopter spawn only to spawn faster so he can fly into the city and be the first one to get the badge
city riots could be cool
then pksf could be called in for riot control
built in police brutality mode
Add houses that can be breached by MDF or STHD to terminate citizens who are deemed traitors (for example, for possession of firearms and other contraband)
We'd be in other building/rooftops if we were assisting MDF
still this could be cool
Yeah
Anywhere where I can see that list?
pins of this forum
Ty
LET ORA COOK
Yeah that was what I was thinking. Imagine a street walled of with shields
Considering what AIA is I was considering mdf and sthd assisting AIA or acting on orders of AIA to search peoples housings for guns and bringing them in for accusation of intent to cause a rebellion
Basically a swat team breaking into your neighbors
But out of all divisions I think AIA will likely benefit the most since its stuff they do lore wise. Combatives assisting is true too, SC could also act abit like that as its their job to make sure the facility runs (idk if that will also be the city)
You could have a wasteland department made up
Like amcs but for patrolling the city and making sure to keep it safe.
Like a crime watch thing but they're permitted to be armed.
Very MDF oriented
MDF can do patrols what not
Even our combatics are essentialy a orange visor'd swat uniforms
aia should have esp
esp?
yes
Dawg with the current player count all of that aint possible
You need player count for the update
95% of them will never return to the game
What the city would do is milk more money for dylan
I think there should be more wasteland content rather than a city
Maybe oretary based economy system
Also maybe some kind of properties which factions could own
Bringing more use to them
nah id city pls
The city overall would just be low-poly
So we're still looking at around a 20 fps drop?
There are already chunk loading issues in dod
Whole gamer bunker gone 💪
What do you plan for raiders if there is such an update? @fickle wharf
I think combat in dod would be more fun if it wasn't only wastelander vs aegis
Faction wars with meaning would be nice
Because now the gameplay is so boring and repetitive
There should be balancing changes before a city update
Something else to do other than for both aegis and raiders to camp
It makes sense for a multi trillion dollar paramilitary or whatever to have an advantage but that camping gameplay gotta go
Fair gameplay over realism
Ask @fickle wharf
The whole map itself isn't as detailed as you intend the city to be
man
it will
blow up
There's 0 content in the wasteland
I don't see what useful you could do in the city
For what
i mean
for the uhhhh
We already have trillions of scraps
credits?
And what do you get from those
Most of us already have gamepasses
Labs are useless
Reactor is broken
There's so little content to go off of for this kind of update
The game being p2w ruins it as well
Dose ADD even have perks?
gween name
Noice
Mention a single border game that isn't p2w
Hell mention a roblox game that isn't p2w or p2p
What DoD suffers from but its what keeps us playing is it doesn't appeal to kids. You can't buy morphs, you can't buy xp like other games. Everything is earnt and most children don't like that. Also the lack of bright colours
That lowers children attention rates as they don't want to do stuff like a academy to rank up
Aresnal(last I checked it’s been over a year)
Don't they have a skin crate system
Fact is nearly every roblox game in existence is pay to win
skins don’t really benefit in matches right
Its not a primary factor. Although I don't like the 1 shot guns removing them wouldn't likely effect anything. Turn to Glacier as a example its a similar you have to earn everything in the group game and its also struggling. It also doesn't have any gamepasses and a massive map. The main issue is getting new people to get engaged long enough that they want to join a division, that they want to explore everything
Most games do this by bright colours, you can buy xp, buy divisions entry what not. And those are the most successful border games. But those features are also shit. Dod is one of the only left without those and thats some of a attraction. A city could help as even after a BAT its something they can explore. Perhaps after a city briefing what not.
That’s not pay to win
And this is something we will always have a issue with going forwards. Because we like it for the dystopian gameplay but it doesn't appeal to 8yr olds
What if we made them one shot form a distance and make em do less damage when close
Furthermore the chairman is unpredictable and inactive.
Which is a massive issue
He can't even confirm updates anymore
Again that wouldn't effect new players joining
🤷 he couldddd hire devs butt
Some games have it that you have to charge the 1 shit.
Ig the 40k usd isn’t enough for a dev
We have devs but he has a trust issues due to the past incidents
He just doesn't want to pay them but
As you can see
did the devs like destroy the map
Be so ffr it’s that and like only that
The devs here are trying to build the game
Let the devs finish building the updates
papers PLS
it has like
a few gamepasses
and some of them do nothing
like the fish
it's just to ragdoll pepole
to get THE REAL STUFF
you gotta work hard
It has alot of gamepasses
Not to mention it has billboards out from with gamepasses
Add onto that it has a nuke everyone gamepass
not that its necessarily an issue, it's just that they'll have to find different uses for an economy
Thats hardly not p2w
scraps and credits are completely useless in-game
Mhm and thats my point
Also not to mention you can pay robux to enter a division for free in papers please
Which is pay to play
isnt it like only one division that you can pay for
But as I was going back to the original point
The city can help retain the newer players
They don't know shit about the lower areas
city sounds cool and all but will it have any use and purpose
They only know. Oh cool border me pass
From what I've seen of the city so far its interesting
But it will help gain new players as the chairman can advertise the shit out of it
3-5 raids and you'll already get bored of going there
And it gives lower ranks and wastelanders more to do
And yet other games have less to raid but more active children
city patrolling should follow standard patrol guidelines and shit
Due to my prior points
no reason for low ranking personnel to go there for no reason
There are military barracks for aegis there
Although its near the entrance.
i think mdf should focus on wasteland and facility while sthd would be more city based
well if the city is what i imagine it to be (tall buildings) then it would be more of an advantage for sthd
nah bro sthd be on that cave grind
I was thinking of something similar to mercs as well
Where citizens can sign up for like a crime watch thing to help
neighborhood watch
But armed yeah
Thats not these guys issues
(make them)
They don't code those bugs
Let
Clloned
And blout
Do their work
While the coder devs do theirs
And poke the shit out of the chairman
which r?
Agent_BuB is a coder dev but isn't responsible for those stuff.
Chairman and Coded are the ones that built the damn gun script and reactor code
There is another dev or two but I cannot recall them
Fact is let these devs do what they can while we bully the chairman into fixing shit.
They don't exactly have access to the scripts
Gun script wise idk whos going to mange that now unless coded comes back
Reactor bug wise that isn't being dealt with because chairmans got the new reactor planned with a completely new set of scripts. So hopefully he decides to add that sooner then later.
what if we go on strike unit its added
:0
no players = no new players = no more moey
We basically are have you seen the player count
But that can also lead to the chairman abandoning the game
its been this bad forever if u ask me
We need new reactor ong
reactor bugged, ff frezor bugged, vault bugged
Depends with the time
and thats the big ones
It can even reach 60-70
i cant even make FF anymore 😭
On average now its closer to 15
Crate bugged
that too lol
Again not these guys fault let them build the city
Its the chairmans code that is the issue rn
Like agent_bub which did some coding for moderation commands those work flawlessly no bugs.
But he doesn't have access to those codes
And his assigned to another job
So really its the chairman that needs to fix it. Just let these devs build their stuff so its added with the bug fixes
Tbh we should be grateful that these two people are putting so much of their time to under go such a large project for free. Something thats only ever been teased to us. Not to mention they aren't getting paid for this.
Like what they have made so far is beautiful in the most brutalist way possible
I know I got no clue why they do it. Ig maybe for like experience but still
ah well fuck it turned out badly
lemme see
i remember there were barely any gamepasses
wait no it still has 3 gamepasses
the decal sign
the fish
and an ak
damn
it now just displays whether they have fake or not since "its designed so gamepass users can use it"
And gamepass users don't have a quota
or can be removed from it
a
well actually i found my new favourite activity in dod
you mean
papers please
or papers pls
like there are 2
one of them is the local enemy of almost every border game
the other just sucks
OH WELL i'll just retreat back to the border offering 1 DOLAR to the initiates
me 🗿
Am I not wrong
u are correct yes
I wouldn't suggest jetpacks
green name
Nor does aegis really use hover crafts but yes
This reminds of the thread marshal made
What happened to him
I thought he was a good dev
And he just became the Uoc of aia
Then he went poof
Tragic ngl
He was (i think)
Just not a good other things
Did he leak docs or smth
smth
He did things to kids
not nice things
fix game before adding a city
@fickle wharf before adding city pls fix the hitreg
thats not a clloned thing
He can tell Dylan bout this
If he doesn't check our probs then he might listen to clloned
30 year old pedo execute him
actually it's not the first time i hear some guy trying to engage with kids in not so good stuff
a
how many pedos in aegis
Personally, I think it'd be cool if we had different districts, each with their own unique traits and purpose.
Business district - Would be at the entrance to the city, would have sky scrapers, shops, that kind of stuff, could have some apartments and stuff too.
Suburbs - Stereotypical American neighbourhood but more brutalist, could have shopping centres and the stuff that'd you'd find in a neighbourhood except more depressing
Industrial district - Self explanatory, has big factories, warehouses, train yards, etc
Slums - Basically rundown, very crowded but cheap houses, could have a lot of black market businesses in it, pretty dirty and stuff
Rural - A large rural area filled with farmland, with many abandoned and rundown buildings, and lots of dirt roads, very big so it's the perfect place for raiders to hide out, as well as smuggle stuff through to the city, still separate from the rest of the wasteland but could be easier to break in here compared to other places. (would be relatively flat and green compared to the wasteland)
Specific buildings:
Military checkpoints - Military checkpoints could be spread around the city, operated by AEGIS, they send a message and obviously are used to prevent smuggling and stuff, could be placed on major roads and stuff, or if the city is split into sectors than between those, could have big gates that can be opened or closed to prevent citizens from going through. (AEGIS would not spawn in these so they could be taken over by raiders too)
City watch tower (Not sure what to call it) - Basically a big tower in the city, with control over a large portion of the city, especially checkpoints, could control protocols in the city, as well as have security cameras and stuff maybe.
Quarantine building - A quarantine building, used during outbreaks to quarantine citizens.
1/2
2/2
Combative staging ground - Basically a big checkpoint, used by combatives to organize raids and patrols in the city, would be situated in the outskirts of the city most likely.
Military warehouses - A big warehouse located in the rural area, can be raided by raiders for weapons and gear.
Rundown factories and other misc buildings - Spread around the rural area and sometimes the slums, good places for printing and or just smuggling.
Small towns and things could also be spread around the rural area and stuff.
(Can't think of anymore but yeah)
Note: These are just ideas, I don't know what scale the city is planned to be, so yeah. But I think these areas could provide some cool and unique challenges for AEGIS and raiders. Areas like the rural area I included because some locations don't really make sense to be in a city, and it would be a good place for raiders to meet and plan raids in the city, and I like the idea of having a dangerous area behind the city which is more rundown, with only dirt roads, and less AEGIS presence there
Heres a map to show my idea of where each area would be, drawn very crudely in paint https://gyazo.com/5a783be818c0fe833ce9fc33ed527c95
Could tie jobs into eaach area too, like factory jobs in the industrial district, shop jobs in the business district, perhaps truck driver for aegis in the rural area, informant for AEGIS in the slums, etc. With some more dangerous than others, like being a truck driver puts you at risk of being hijacked by raiders since your transporting gear, etc
chairman gotta do scraps reset first so jobs can actaully be useful
why is it so hard for him to do that?
it isnt
why he not doing it then
🤷♂️
@fickle wharf i beg you convice the chairman to do scraps reset or smth 🙏
He was a kid toucher
Ai generated shit
its not ai generated
damn
this is similar to hive cities
great idea tho
yeah i suppose so
but i'd just like to stress that there wouldnt be any elevation in this
unlike a hive city
intergrated conference and obby areas
Monthly city Major vote
he has to come up with a useful thing to use scraps on first
guns
not everoyne got 100k to spend on the game
No
yes do that
Yeah the current map thats being built is so much better
True story. I saw them building some of it a while back. It's quite promising.
They literally should be paid with the stuff they're doing. Paying devs is how you get development to last longer obviously.
Also, there's an engineering division??
One coming out yea but we all agree they should be paid
Oo I'm excited for that then. Engineering division sounds fun.
Credits are what the city uses
So
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Wastelanders = Scrap
AEGIS = Tickets/Credits
Citizens = Credits
raiders=robux
City patrols of course
city post
and AEGIS March if possible
Like Chairman or TOML can host a march
Host a march through the city and end at the Chairman building
thats would be so cool
imagine
PKSF, MDF, and enlists march through the city
A short WH40K video inspired me about the march btw
Chairman can flaunting his power and also demonstrating his greatness to the citizens of the city
but this idea have many problems
so i dont think it possible
this is guidelines stuff not dev stuff
let division-less personnel under UC enter the city so they don’t have their asses stuck to the border for life
Make a Sub division in the PKSF for the city named Riot control.
Well heres the thing there is aegis military housing planned. Howeverrrrr, the main facility still is the main point that needs constant protection. Divisionless are the main defense to help stop raider activity and the majority of personnel who manages processing. Considering the facility has more vital areas such as the reactor I doubt any O+ would be able to enter the city whenever they want. It maybe similar to wasteland patrols where FA+ could host a patrol or perhaps you could request leave from service to SC where for a X amount of time you will be able to go around the city as basically a citizen.
But I prefer not to have the facility halted due to everyone being in the city then the reactor melting down.
Or other issues
join a division 🗣️
initiates being used as slaves in the city's factories
more profit for aegis
less tk
It is a military megacorp dictatorship
So there is probably slave labour
Oh wait it already exists
AHDP
e
AHDP: Become slaves
the first time i read this it looked like ADHD
Fair enoughhh
Live footage of ADHP
also not dev stuff
not trying to be anoyying but i dont think clloned can add that lol
AED in a nutshell
there are other 2 vids one is in global
a sub division for that wont be added
Considering PKSF are built to be riot control from the very start
just have all PKSF respond
new protocol:
riot
all pksf respond and kill their vips just to suppress the riot
mercy kill
they suck
no it buffs PKSF since there are less raids cuz watelanders won't have access to the shop guns
only the ones with gamepasses will suffer
since there is no backup
cuz everyone is uh
yk
busy gaining their scrap back
It gets the game more content.
And makes It more fun for AEGIS and wastelanders.
Gamepasses are still a thing.
More gameplay.
More duties, more things to do rather just fighting.
AEGIS still gets to keep whatever tickets we have, right?
(It would only affect credits/scraps)
no if da scrap and credits get reset yall will have no tickets too
Mate that's the time spent in game
Why would tickets get resetted
The only way to gain tickets is via playing the gamr
Game*
What stuff
whatever yall can buy from that lunatic shop npc
Nothing much
Basic weapons
The only useful thing is the vest that cost credits
And the sniper 50 tickets
I agree
game kinda boring when only gamepass buyers who spent 500 hrs playing the game are the only ones who are playing the game
chairman should focus on getting new players
this will be harder then the city itself
Pro
Fix firework first
Pretty much.
Getting killed in 3 seconds from someone with a bunch of gamepasses is lame.
Wdym.
All raiding equipment you can get without gamepasses. You can get a dew without gamepasses for wastelanders same goes for every armour. Aegis wise its not gamepass focused for content its division focused.
PKSF basically get a free 3c and a extra 250 hp.
MDF has the best DPS and good stealth
STHD has a 135 damage gun and wallhacks
ARD basically has the x33 with less damage but more Ammo
AIA abducts
SC has a better 5ss
Divisionless is the disposable but you can get a uzi which is op and a sniper rifle which if you can land a headshot will 1 shot said op raider
Divisionless are supposed to be on average weaker to a raider even without gamepasses. But there are alot more divisionless and the specialised units with quite unique duties for each division helps combat that.
im talking about new players
they cant do sh against a pksf with titanium gamepass and a dew1
Yeah because they also don't know where to look. As a f2p wastelander you can get every armour, a free dew, sniper rifle, uzi, etc.
Which if you have the ability to aim. You can kill a pksf with that.
you dont really cuz they armor only 1 life
Thats a single rock
Aka 20 seconds
But this game does have a p2w issue but for a f2p this game has alot more legway compared to other games
Most other border games won't give you jack shit compared to their divisionals. Like a free 3c can shred most divisions.
agreed at least it gives f2p player a way to raid unlike other games like military simualtor 2
Mhm
Also the fact raid gear stays until you leave the game is also good
Difference is and no duh a new player will die to a pksf regardless of if they have armour or their shield at all
Because no duh its special forces
The royal guard division of this group
nah but the point im trying to tell is theres more experienced peopple then new people
kinda gets sweaty
Mhm same with most military groups
Tbf though if you ignore the raiders and let them go by you thats bannable for treason
So
They do need to kill them.
but cant do anything if raiders camp roof!!!
Although some raiders are worse who actively kill new wastelanders for kd
why raiders dont actually raid and tyr to cause meltdown
Because they like K/D. Camping is the main issue with this site. But it will be hard to address without a full rework.
We can deploy VToLs but pilots are not always online.
do you think sub divisions like pilots should get their own uniform?
Pilots are a department not a division so no. Since most pilots are divisional members
Debatable
You "can" not you "will"
I've killed them before when I was raiding and at the time I only had a famas.
Spme of them got 430 ish hp and like 600 armor soo
No f2p is gonna win
You can't get 430hp
170 is the max hp you can get
And yes I killed veron back when he was a try Harding pksf with my famas
I jumped over the head and famased him in the back

PKSF don’t even have a head hit box 😭
No dont
That was patched awhile ago
eerrrm sir a rocks gives like 3 ingots and going from one side to the other side of the map isnt fun
thanks for working on this
add a statue of cloned
👍
I agree
You could have a hidden dev room showing all the people that worked on the city
a city
add a shower
(it will be AIA's fav spot when they kidnap someone)
sad seeing u without toml role
@fickle wharf idk if you accepted this suggestion but i got an addition for it (could work without this one too)
AEGIS Civil Services building
This could serve as a way for citizens to get jobs in the city. Basically it would probably be a building in the business district, maybe with some offices spread throughout the city. Here players could go and choose a job to work, some jobs could require maybe different reputation levels or something to obtain.
All jobs need to be fun and entertaining, so I dont think ones like 'janitor' should be included or prioritized because theyre boring, ones which interact with other players like taxi driver for example though would probably work fine because they interact with other players, so theres less boredom there.
You could also have jobs like paramedic or fire fighter. Some more dangerous ones could be zone-14 miners, which could get ores for ard, or truck drivers which could carry valuable cargo, which thus could be stolen by raiders (think bank trucks or weapon trucks).
With legal jobs, there would be unofficial illegal ones like smuggler, thief, etc
As players get better reputation, maybe they could unlock some more dangerous jobs. You mentioned the idea of having a river in the city, so you could have some related to that maybe too.
I'm assuming there'll be jobs in the city but idk what you guys have planned so yeah, just an idea i had
secret raider hq