#AIA bans // Corruption and Transparency

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gleaming ridge
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You r getting violated

snow sigil
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no, i wouldnt do the report unless theres evidence i could see

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but we dont get any proof about any situation aia deals with

wise ledge
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walac stop yapping ur exposing ur self

rich oar
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we aren’t too good for saucy, saucy is too good for us

wise ledge
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GET RID OF ALL AIA EXCEPT FOR BUZAREC AND KAZU

raw marsh
gleaming ridge
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this thread isn’t really getting anywhere

median moat
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I’ll make a goated aia

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Wtf

raw marsh
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Why should you 💀

short kiln
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Okay so you were impatient during the initial contact of your false ban and claiming there was no evidence despite us needing evidence for bans to be made in the first place, and this is the same person saying AIA is corrupt?

snow sigil
rich oar
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can we keep this focused and serious guys

wise ledge
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oh my gawd this aia is using dots on fucking discord definetly ban them

snow sigil
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💀

elder jasper
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Haha skill issue

median moat
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I’ll make it equal for all parties!

short kiln
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Again, it depends.

gleaming ridge
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as toml?

wise ledge
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why the fuck are they roleplaying

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GET RID OF ALL AIA EXCEPT FOR BUZAREC AND KAZU

wise ledge
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yesterday

gleaming ridge
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L for him

short kiln
median moat
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blud was caught underage again

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😱

raw marsh
meager bone
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hot take:
aia is subdivision of sc

molten star
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so this whole forum... was to make a dig at walac by gaining public attention due to to6xic's ban?

wise ledge
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my point was for more transparency

molten star
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it seems... very much like that

wise ledge
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GET RID OF ALL AIA EXCEPT FOR BUZAREC AND KAZU

short kiln
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🗣️🗣️🗣️

raw marsh
molten star
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right now

wise ledge
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every ban that wasnt handled right

small bear
wise ledge
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buddy is only using emojis now he exposed him self to much

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GET RID OF ALL AIA EXCEPT FOR BUZAREC AND KAZU

snow sigil
raw marsh
rich oar
short kiln
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Your ban is an awful example

snow sigil
wise ledge
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proof okay if its sent its fine but its the fact you guys arent transparent enough

rich oar
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any good example

short kiln
wise ledge
median moat
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Toxic boutta make this the Berlin Wall revolution

rich oar
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bruv

wise ledge
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GET RID OF ALL AIA EXCEPT FOR BUZAREC AND KAZU

raw marsh
wise ledge
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me rn

short kiln
small bear
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sorry i dont have more to say guys i dont really keep up with the day-to-day bans

snow sigil
short kiln
snow sigil
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cuz if its my ban it should be my choice for what i should do with the evidence on me

meager bone
wise ledge
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i mean

median moat
wise ledge
snow sigil
median moat
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bro made an animation just for this

wise ledge
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GET RID OF ALL AIA EXCEPT FOR BUZAREC AND KAZU

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ur done walac

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its over pal

short kiln
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Dunno, a lot of bans happen so can’t say off the top of my head

wise ledge
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pack ur stuff

dull plume
meager bone
raw marsh
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3 pages long

wise ledge
dull plume
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Appreciate it

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Frfr

short kiln
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Man is going by no evidence of this.

wise ledge
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HE AINT DENY IT

molten star
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this seems like a forum for people disgruntled with AIA to try and gain public sympathy 💀

cloud flicker
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Defund aiatrollface_aegis

short kiln
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Ask me about it in DMs, I’ll look when I can.

molten star
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it feels very made for toxic's ban

wise ledge
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WALAC GOTTA GET BETTER WITH UR WORDS PAL

raw marsh
wise ledge
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YOU AINT DENY ANY OF THIS

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UR DONE PAL

short kiln
wise ledge
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GET RID OF ALL AIA EXCEPT FOR BUZAREC AND KAZU

molten star
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if you really wanted walac gone... this forum wouldnt exist

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you would be talking to toml/IC rn

wise ledge
short kiln
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My sarcasm is less noticeable

wise ledge
meager bone
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guys theres only one way to solve this debate

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a rap battle

gleaming ridge
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I’m corrupt guys

short kiln
cloud flicker
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Defund dylanjkl

molten star
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i wonder why

cloud flicker
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I can confirm aia is corrupt (my alt is in aia)

wise ledge
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THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY WE SOLVE THIS AND ITS BY PROTESTING AGAINST THESE CORRUPT RATS

molten star
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that is so brief and short of a reason that there is no actual valid reason to judge why it was rejected

cloud flicker
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Nono I'm buzarec

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Defund walac so I can get uoc

wise ledge
cloud flicker
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My alt*

wise ledge
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suchhh

cloud flicker
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🤓

gleaming ridge
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your own evidence proved you wrong

molten star
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i was actually excited to read some suggested policy changes for AIA (im the guy that likes just seeing policy suggestions) to be disappointed with useless drama

short kiln
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funny prank haha

molten star
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this is so sad

small bear
cloud flicker
wise ledge
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damn mane

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joining the squad

short kiln
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You ain’t even banned bro

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Ah

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I’ll look at your DMs when I have time

wise ledge
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he will never have time

meager bone
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I will eat your skin.

short kiln
meager bone
cloud flicker
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2 weeks

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bacons ban appeal took 2 months

wise ledge
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can this get you banned

cloud flicker
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i mean the fact that it takes super long is annoying but from my experience walac is one of the best aia's

wise ledge
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walac leave aia bro

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you aint fit for it

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you suck

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u dont got time for shit man

short kiln
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Wow it’s like I don’t do anything in AIA itself, you have no idea what I do within AIA itself

wise ledge
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aw man nobody fell for it

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QUIT YAPPIN AND READ HIS DM THEN

cloud flicker
short kiln
cloud flicker
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walac invite me to aia ong

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ill be best aia

wise ledge
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cutdata and matxdata helped each other get in aia

short kiln
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You keep telling yourself that buddy

short kiln
wise ledge
median moat
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I think I’ll be the best aia public relation

gleaming ridge
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this has gone from a aia transparency thread to personal attacks, if you have nothing relevant to contribute to the thread, stop talking in here

cloud flicker
median moat
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I was a decent SC NGLLLLLL

short kiln
lost bramble
short kiln
wise ledge
lost bramble
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why thank you

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I am delighted to hear that

ashen nexus
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why yall so focused on aia transparency

short kiln
ashen nexus
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the games almost dead

ocean token
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you attacked walac for classified evidence then said he wasnt fit to be uoc when he said no

small bear
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why so serious

ashen nexus
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only thing alive is the community

short kiln
wise ledge
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if i dont want to

ocean token
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im talking about your method of delivery

short kiln
ocean token
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there are ways to ask for change without going at someone head

wise ledge
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cutdata is corrupt

wise ledge
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how does this make sense

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ur contradicting ur self pal

molten star
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this is just an attack on aia members

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the change you seek wont come from that

wise ledge
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nah dip sherlock

molten star
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in fact it'll just make people defend them more

magic vortex
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This thread hurts to read.

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What about chase

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Michel

wise ledge
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this some valid shit no cap

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why does bro keep exposing himself

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ur calling ur self unfit

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its not us no more

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its you to man

short kiln
jovial ore
magic vortex
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Directorate involves more then just the UOC.

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walac has a entire division to operate

wise ledge
magic vortex
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No duh his busy between that and his irl life

wise ledge
magic vortex
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Walac is probably the most merciful UOC that we have had

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If you want to get rid of him

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It won't end the best for you cases.

raw marsh
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@wise ledge Cut it out or you'll be striked. Michal has already warned all of you.

wise ledge
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were typing

jovial ore
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getting warned for speaking is mind blowing

wise ledge
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this is crazy

jovial ore
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bros mad

wise ledge
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corrupt officers

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corrupt aia

short kiln
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Maybe I do, maybe I don’t

wise ledge
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they tryna silence us fr

short kiln
cloud flicker
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what worked best for me is sending reminders

wise ledge
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no hes to busy yapping here

cloud flicker
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i dmd walac like every 4 to 6 days orso

wise ledge
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alr pls dont warn me officer

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im done

raw marsh
pastel brook
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no personal opinion allowed sir!

wise ledge
median moat
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Guys, I think we had enough

cloud flicker
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well like i said Bacons ban appeal took 2 months

median moat
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Let’s go chill

wise ledge
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can i not type no more?

cloud flicker
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''more complicated''

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seems to be if things are complicated

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idk how aia works

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my best advice would be to contact corpsii about it if you think walac and/or other aia arent doing their jobs correctly

raw marsh
# wise ledge can i not type no more?

You're all welcome to continue conversating, just don't insult innocent people. If you have any problem(s) like what you're mentioning, then you should bring your concerns to a member of ToML+, not publicizing it for public attention.

wise ledge
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how are we insulting people

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if your to soft stop reading

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easy

raw marsh
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@wise ledge You as well. ^^

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I understand you are passionate to want to share your thoughts

median moat
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sorry

cloud flicker
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lol

median moat
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im instigating it

wicked creek
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i fucking love when a random suggestion actually gets political like this

torn sorrel
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how is this not locked

wise ledge
torn sorrel
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or closed

wicked creek
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my bro is actually typing a storm

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id like to bet 4 shinglings it's a long version of "everyone shut the fuck up"

torn sorrel
amber oriole
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i agree!

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i was talking to rose sorry not you

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mind ur own business

wise ledge
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i was hoping to come back to see corpsiis response

full dagger
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heh

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politics

shut cloak
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corpsii cooking something

wise ledge
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ive been watching him type for like 20 minutes

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I could never

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last time i typed something like this was when i was answering a question on how to make a duty state in-depth on mobile

cloud flicker
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Bro is gonna run outta space to type even with the upgraded amount nitro allows

pale jetty
meager bone
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discord going to crash when he presses enter

wise ledge
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he still didnt finish yet??

mortal moat
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I agree that more can be done internally with AIA to help fact-check, authenticate, and validate incidents brought forward. I also agree that for certain situations, as much evidence as possible is better than nothing at all.
However, these changes would be kept within AIA, shared with HICOM. As AIA continues to revamp and develop itself after the recent transparency changes that coded gracefully made (mainly for HICOM), there will be more and more opportunity for us to improve the way AIA conducts itself. Is it perfect? No. Is it corrupt, inefficient, unethical or otherwise? No.

"Corruption" is a harsh accusation here, because that's not at all what you're referring to could be described as. AIA already tries to do exactly what you're preaching here, and it's something I've tried to develop further after becoming their AO. Evidence for most major-offenses is provided to fellow AIA, HICOM, and those involved when necessary. Just because a perpitrator does not know what evidence is used against them doesn't make them innocent. AIA are not required to publicize evidence on that scale, but they- for the most part- have it, and provide it to HICOM and other AIA members.

Most- but yes, not all- bans are given fairly and justly. Could some of the current ban severities be lessened based on the context? Sure, I could get behind that. But that doesn't mean that suddenly- or that we already have hundreds of innocent people banned wrongfully.

I would love to see the certain "dms" you're referring to that you want to make public, it could've been an accidentally mismanaged case but I'd have to know all the details before deciding that. I'm assuming that incident is what sparked this thread.

AEGIS does not ban people simply because we assume they're doing wrong @ anyone saying we're "guilty until proven innocent". We strongly try to prevent that mindset. That's part of the reason many people who likely should've been banned faster than they were went unbanned for so long. Should there be some more safety measures to ensure power isn't being abused, a step wasn't missed, the proper context is acquisitioned properly? Totally, already on it. AIA- and AEGIS moderation itself- is improving as time goes on.

As for the transparency concern, I apologize that the initial plan for AIA transparency hasn't come. Honestly I completely forgot about that shout, and I wasn't the AO of AIA at the time. I don't know exactly what was planned for that but I can speak with AIA, HICOM, and potentially other admins to make sure we're doing something good in that regard.

Nobody has ever been banned for having an alt that has not played DoD. hommie I have like 10 alts that AIA, HICOM, etc doesn't know about. I'm not dumb enough to use them on DoD either. A larger effort could be made to help prevent these bans, however, since a lot of these bans are from people who simply didn't know any better and honestly should probably be given a lot more leeway with how they were treated. (not that they were treated poorly, just given a harsh punishment for a relatively innocent rule break assuming it wasn't malicious).

"Trust me bro"- as silly as this is lol, it is the reality for the public. We are not going to publicize every ban case, every evidence ever recorded on every possible offense, just so the public can throw their two cents in on how a certain situation was handled. As shitty as it sounds for all of you who aren't in the loop where you can see or request the evidence/context and be in the position to recieve it, that's how it is. This doesn't mean I'm disgarding what I said in previous paragraphs, fyi.

wise ledge
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🤯

meager bone
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HOLY

mortal moat
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I'll have to reread the shout and identify what is appropriate to change, thanks for bringing that up. @ what I said above too.

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also

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I forget where I read it but I do have time to stay in the loop with AIA cases.

wise ledge
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aegis intelligence security bureau

mortal moat
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Maybe every single case doesn't get my attention, but I do check often and I read through the discussion channels, giving my two cents, suggesting actions, etc.

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Gtg, lmk if I missed something or if you need something addressed.

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Should be on again in a few hours or tomorrow morning.

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oh and @ what I said above, said changes I mentioned will be made public.

amber oriole
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is it possible to request evidence on why aia banned you

wise ledge
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time to cook up a response

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actually

mortal moat
amber oriole
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can we go to dms

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real quick

wise ledge
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@mortal moat are you just able to lock this now everythings been said

amber oriole
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are your dms open

mortal moat
wise ledge
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I mean as this post has been open, I'm fairly sure that everyone has said whats said but my last response will be this,

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Will their be the change we want?

mortal moat
mortal moat
# wise ledge Will their be the change we want?

Not in the way you or some of the others who shared, or exaggerated / amplified your beliefs want it done, no. Not necessary. But @ what I said in my paragraph (which I'm sure you read), I will look into some of the points mentioned here that aren't already undergoing changes, and release a shout when these changes are implemented. Likely shouldn't be expected for another month or two, considering how new AIA's change was and my repositioning in AIA as the AO.

wise ledge
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Yes as long as some points we said get some sort of recognition and change we are happy

mortal moat
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yeah, @ what I said in my message I think I addressed that pretty clearly. Hopefully lol

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k gtg I'll leave it open for a little bit longer.

wise ledge
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Yea I saw, I did see some things which were a bit alarming that was said in this conversation

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I'll just dm it

ashen nexus
meager bone
ashen nexus
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i love how in this argument 90% of the up votes are people against aia and 90% of the downvotes are aia or officers\

ocean token
wise ledge
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the people against the corrupt

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tuff out here

ashen nexus
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it was 18 2 originally

median moat
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Why did the upvotes got revoked

wise ledge
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they didnt

ashen nexus
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ye they did

wise ledge
ashen nexus
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so

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it was 11 a hour ago

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exactly

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they reduced it

wise ledge
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what

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what r u talking about

ashen nexus
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that was at 2:47 PM

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bro u were there

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you were in the chat

wise ledge
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ok that just means more people disliked it

ashen nexus
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stop on yapping like nothin happened

wise ledge
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what

ashen nexus
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blud was there when it happened

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🗿

wise ledge
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what makes you think a mod removed them

ashen nexus
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went from 18 to 5

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instantly

cobalt oxide
wise ledge
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we still have 18

ashen nexus
ashen nexus
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but they tried to reduce it

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fr

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that image was taken at 2:47 PM

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look at it again

wise ledge
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they got cleared

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it was also 20

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at some point

ashen nexus
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aia being corrupt is crazy

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or whoever

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deleted the reactions

median moat
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It got removed to zero ages ago

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Check logs or something

cobalt oxide
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dont ask me

median moat
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Who do I ask

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@rainwatee

mortal moat
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idk if you read my message or not but check it out.

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and for the mistrust of AIA, imo that's a you problem. There are very few cases that proves you can't trust AIAs actions. You can dislike AIA all you want, but that doesn't mean suddenly all their actions need to be questioned or not believed.

jovial ore
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I feel like the fact that there are cases shows that

wise ledge
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on gawd

turbid thorn
mortal moat
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not everyone

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Three six members is not everyone 💀

mortal moat
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My bad, I was going off the last few comments.

jovial ore
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Why are you only targeting 6 memebers

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First you ban a one for entering a wasteland spawn and know your saying we don’t trust aia because their only proof they can tell us is “it’s classified”

ashen nexus
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crazy

jovial ore
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We join an argument and you add that to the list of reason not to make 6 a trusted family

raw marsh
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@jovial ore Calm down

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Corpsii never said that.

jovial ore
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He’s only targeting us when you know damn well there more people then just 3 six

raw marsh
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That's because there was three 6 members in chat during then. He was making a point.

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He is not targeting six, he was saying how 6' isn't everyone.

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He even apologized for the misunderstanding.

jovial ore
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He’s always using 6 to try and put in a bad spotlight and this typa bullshjt is just pissing me off

raw marsh
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Which he never had to do, but still did.

raw marsh
jovial ore
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Damn

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You got me there

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You good officer

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Sorry for all the shit I talked about you behind you back

wise ledge
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why do aegis hate 6

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if you got 6 in ur name ur automatically hated

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6 generally just has a not-so-good reputation because quite a few of their members break rules

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not everyone

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but some

amber oriole
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they are toxic

wise ledge
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¨they¨

amber oriole
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i think little bro is lost

small sage
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Well, maybe some people, and I don't know why. Still, this is kinda weird.

turbid thorn
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toxic ahh family

jovial ore
small sage
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I feel this includes me somehow.

sleek hawk
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Don't believe the 6 lies!!

wet tapir
torn sorrel
shy ferry
indigo birch
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Looks like everyone's said their piece

whole basalt
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Spending 1000 dollars on a roblox game is insane

wise ledge
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my bad

whole basalt
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Makes sense never liked Intelligence divs most of them are begs half the time in RP groups not all but majority

Not giving evidence is crazy

Banning someone for having an alt is insane sounds like a fun time

full quest
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mystery men that may or may not ruin ur career in dod and ur money

fallen heart
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yes officer this one right here 😰

full quest
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hes O whatchu expect

rich oar
full quest
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sc has highest authority

rich oar
wheat oracle
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agreed

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aia should prove some sort of evidence

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and not just say "classified"

short kiln
wise ledge
versed fog
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No

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AIA does a load more shit that yall dont need to know

short kiln
versed fog
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Basically its not relevant to you guys

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The whole point to why aia is classified so much

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Is because there is no point in knowing it

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Half of the info would probably mean nothing to non aia

short kiln
versed fog
short kiln
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Evidence is based on a need to know basis

versed fog
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I dont why all these guys wanna know everything

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Anyways

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This will never change

full quest
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what proud said

versed fog
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Chairman made it this way

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He aint gonna change it

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If everything was unclassified

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There will be a lot of controversy regarding people

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And that

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Its better to keep some things private

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Exactly

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The most common for classification is to prevent further cases from people finding out about it

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Anything aia wants to declassify is up to AIA leadership and HICOM

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so good luck

short kiln
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This has happened more than people think, and it will never stop

versed fog
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Just ignore it

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People aren’t gonna stop

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So u just gotta let it go by

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Until they forget about it

short kiln
versed fog
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So just ignore them

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Ez

elder jasper
kindred spade
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i direct people who try to appeal to me to the correct people

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i only ignore stupid questions that arent relevant in any way

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if someone has a legitimate concern about their ban i will tell them what to do

forest fern
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Some where chill tho

wise ledge
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ye

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they all have a bias

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corrupt mfs

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automatically think every 6 member is bad

vivid cedar
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cuz you are

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its proven

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  • ur literally being hypocritical
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automatically think every aia member is bad

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stupid mfs

loud thicket
wise ledge
wise ledge
versed fog
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its impossible not to have bias

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everyone has it

rich oar
wise ledge
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when ur doing leader thing you should not have bias

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pal

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that is the one thing

versed fog
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its not possible to be unbiased

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for example

rich oar
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that’s like telling soldiers to not ever make mistakes

versed fog
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you

rich oar
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that’s impossible

wise ledge
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im not a leader tho

versed fog
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if u werent a member of 6 u wouldnt be complaining rn

loud thicket
wise ledge
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tust me i would

versed fog
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u wouldnt

wise ledge
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ive always complained

wise ledge
loud thicket
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avoid, yes

wise ledge
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i joined 6 like 2 weeks ago

loud thicket
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but it's impossible for people to not factor at least some bias in your decision

versed fog
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^

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thats why we have multiple officers and uc

wise ledge
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i aint really notice the hate towards em till now

loud thicket
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impossible

loud thicket
versed fog
loud thicket
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tries way too hard to get members

wise ledge
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impossible not really yall just need to mature

loud thicket
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i got invited to 6' at least 10 times

versed fog
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mature?

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looks whos talking

rich oar
loud thicket
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i think we're pretty mature even if we don't like a set group of people

wise ledge
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yall cant control yall emotions

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on a decision

kindred spade
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i maintain no dislikes towards any groups of people

rich oar
kindred spade
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gets in the way of my job

wise ledge
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see

versed fog
kindred spade
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all are individual

wise ledge
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not impossible

turbid thorn
wise ledge
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so yes

kindred spade
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i cant comment much on 6' but even if i disliked how their members act
i wouldnt hold it against them as some kind of prejudice

turbid thorn
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now you’re on 24/7

wise ledge
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W mans

wise ledge
turbid thorn
wise ledge
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ye i noticed

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well yesterday is the only day ive played this whole week

kindred spade
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people have different personalities which simply have to be understood
i'm observant and try to keep my words to myself unless i think it's beneficial to the conversation

AIA do not hate specific groups of people for being that group of people
i at least havent noticed such, and certainly havent held such grudges myself

versed fog
kindred spade
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and as for the actual TOPIC of this post
i think our transparency rules are fine
but if change happens
then change happens

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i am indifferent and will do as protocol instructs

kindred spade
short kiln
kindred spade
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i wouldnt hold that against them

wise ledge
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@loud thicket its not that hard see pal

kindred spade
wise ledge
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cant let ur emotion control u

versed fog
#

that doesnt prove much

loud thicket
#

very well

versed fog
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he is still

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will be still partly biased

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even if he says he isnt everyone is to some degree

wise ledge
#

nah

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its really simple

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yall just needa grow up fr

versed fog
#

bro ur in 6 and now ur complaining abt this

wise ledge
#

some dall yall will learn

versed fog
#

u didnt care before

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so u r biased

wise ledge
#

i did not know 6 existed till i joined

versed fog
#

if u werent inactive u would care

wise ledge
#

yes

versed fog
#

wouldnt*

wise ledge
#

i cared years ago

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film had the same treatment

versed fog
#

there is no point in arguing, everyone is biased its not pyhsically to be unbiased

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if there wasnt bias

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there wouldnt be more then one uo

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uc

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officer

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dc

wise ledge
#

its funny how aegis find everything is arguing

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i find this as a nice peaceful conversation

trim heart
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i love @cobalt gulch more then anyone and if he wants i will host a tryout for him 😻

versed fog
#

bros defending himself to prove that he isnt biased

versed fog
#

he is for MDF

trim heart
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no

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he is mine

versed fog
#

yes

trim heart
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no

versed fog
#

nope

trim heart
#

yes

versed fog
#

once he gets SO he is in MDF acad

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so

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no

trim heart
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do anything to my cootie patootie

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and i will

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destroy you

rich oar
#

guys please do not chat spam in uh suggestions please and thank you

  • DPM if GAMEBIGHT and best dod player
trim heart
#

:ban trollface_aegis

versed fog
wise ledge
#

but i could care less because im not in a leading position

kindred spade
#

as i said earlier on the topic of the post

  • AIA keeps its evidence classified for source protection, we lose all effectiveness if its all revealed to the public
  • ToML+ can review it already
  • I am personally opposed to the idea of changing our transparency rules, but I would not resist if they were changed. Like I said, I'm here to do my job, not interpret the rules to my liking.
wise ledge
#

so anyone could care less

versed fog
wise ledge
#

but if i were in a leading position i would take that bias away simple

versed fog
#

doesnt seem like walac will ever do it

kindred spade
#

i also saw @wise ledge making some hefty claims about our UOC and agency as a whole

i understand you may be frustrated with us and our UOC
however, i havent seen our UOC or any AIA trying to actively silence anyone for speaking their mind about AIA

versed fog
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which is understandable

wise ledge
#

walac to busy hacking ppl accounbts

kindred spade
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if we really were trying to silence critics

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this post wouldve been deleted

cobalt gulch
kindred spade
#

but we are open to criticism

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we are not perfect

versed fog
#

ur MDFs

versed fog
trim heart
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no

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he's SC's

versed fog
trim heart
#

@cobalt gulch come my dear i will host a tryout for you 😻

versed fog
#

im obliterating you

trim heart
#

not if i ban you first

versed fog
#

ill ban u before

trim heart
#

u can't ban an admin

versed fog
#

ill get unbid

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my bro

trim heart
#

unbid has same mod as me thus he can't ban me

versed fog
#

ill get chairman himself to ban you

trim heart
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not if i bribe him first

versed fog
#

i have more money

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so no

trim heart
#

i have a hypermansion

versed fog
#

yeah well

trim heart
#

my dad owns roblox

versed fog
#

my dad owns nasa

trim heart
#

my dad owns the planet

versed fog
#

and space X

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my dad owns the galaxy

trim heart
#

my dad owns the universe

versed fog
#

my dad owns the multiverse

trim heart
#

my dad owns your dad

turbid thorn
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stop talking here please

trim heart
#

lmfao waited for someone to tell that

full quest
#

my ass

turbid thorn
#

🤓

trim heart
#

sorry guys go on

short kiln
# versed fog walac cracking alt accounts to get them banned

I like to be hands on with things even as a UOC, as for the hacking part I was merely joking but there was an incident at the beginning of the year where known exploiters impersonated SIBYL and agents in order to gain access to multiple accounts and attempt to ruin our reputation.

versed fog
trim heart
#

come #aegis @versed fog

kindred spade
#

i also saw a claim about us banning people for simply owning alts
that was addressed, but to reiterate

we don't ban people for having alts, we ban people for using alts on DOD

versed fog
#

there was even fake chairman

short kiln
versed fog
#

but

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i just blocked

short kiln
#

That's good.

versed fog
#

if an AIA messages me about it i will block them trollface_aegis

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trust

short kiln
versed fog
#

yes

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now what can you do

short kiln
versed fog
short kiln
versed fog
#

im gonna hire personal guards

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so u cant

#

ez

shut cloak
#

irl pksf to protect ur house

versed fog
shut cloak
#

irl mdf to also protect ur hoise

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irl sthd to also protect ur house

versed fog
#

ill get sc to manage them

#

fr

kindred spade
#

i think something people forget about AIA is we are trying to ensure that the rules aren't broken

i'm much more glad when there aren't any incidents ongoing

mortal moat
#

If you're going to make a comment, make some sense.

#

Don't spread malicious lies.

kindred spade
short kiln
#

CORPSII IN THE HOUSE 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

trim heart
kindred spade
#

but didnt i just prove that not all of us have a bias?

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i dont think any family is bad as a baseline

wise ledge
kindred spade
#

the individual is more important

trim heart
#

woah woah

versed fog
#

LOL

wise ledge
trim heart
#

i think the least possible toml there could be is corpsii lol

versed fog
#

WHO IS REMOVING REACTIONS?

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lol

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W

wise ledge
#

the rest of these people are slow

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corpsi remvoing

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it just proves

small bear
wise ledge
#

that he is corrupt

kindred spade
short kiln
trim heart
mortal moat
small bear
#

i think that everything that can be said here has been said and now people are just bickering and arguing in circles

wise ledge
#

oh loow here we go silence me with threats

short kiln
mortal moat
trim heart
rich oar
#

bro

versed fog
#

i hate aia forcing us to not have alts

wise ledge
#

im sure they are

rich oar
#

why are the approve reactions removed

small bear
#

god bless america

trim heart
#

why are they approve

kindred spade
trim heart
#

top notch godgamer grammar

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i love my dpms

versed fog
rich oar
versed fog
#

just like the pksf one

kindred spade
#

i dont insult people when discussing a subject

wise ledge
rich oar
versed fog
wise ledge
mortal moat
versed fog
mortal moat
rich oar
wise ledge
#

then when i talk back bro cant take it

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hes in his 60s

versed fog
wise ledge
#

go do some old people thing

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idk]

mortal moat
#

Starting drama.

kindred spade
wise ledge
#

its not lies

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tho

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its truth

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yall are bias

short kiln
wise ledge
#

people even admit they are biased

kindred spade
#

But.. you just affirmed I'm not?
Therefore we're not all biased?

mortal moat
wise ledge
kindred spade
#

Which would make that statement false.

wise ledge
#

the evidence is here

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yall expose yall self

short kiln
kindred spade
#

I've not shown any bias in my comments here, as far as I'm aware.

dull plume
#

skull

small bear
#

i hate aia #defundAIA #freeMyBoyDavidApple

wise ledge
wise ledge
#

im talking about aegis in general

vivid cedar
wise ledge
#

well everyone has moved on from that topic but yall

mortal moat
#

Every human being has some form of bias in them whether it's intentional or not. The great thing about AEGIS moderation is that it bases itself on facts, and clear outlines. It removes the "bias" aspect largely because of this. But there is no "corruption" lol.

small bear
#

i am biased and corrupt and my own feelings are the only factor in my ban decisions @wise ledge

#

you got me

wise ledge
kindred spade
#

When discussing a subject, it's important to focus on defeating the point another person is making, not defeating the person making the point.

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Corpsii is not letting their emotions control them.

mortal moat
wise ledge
kindred spade
#

I'd argue Corpsii is more mature than me.

trim heart
short kiln
trim heart
#

as an sc for almost 1 year

wise ledge
versed fog
#

drama????

wise ledge
#

ur most mature person here

trim heart
#

🍿

versed fog
cloud flicker
versed fog
#

17 days until 1 year of mdf

kindred spade
#

That's not really true. I've just chosen my words carefully like a politician.
AIA AO Corpsii and other AIA leadership here are perfectly mature and reasonable.

wise ledge
kindred spade
#

They wouldn't be in those positions otherwise.

kindred spade
vivid cedar
#

@wise ledge thoughts on mo6ve's ban

kindred spade
#

Everyone makes mistakes either way.

wise ledge
#

friends hire friends and thats how it starts

kindred spade
#

I do too.

mortal moat
# wise ledge thats cap dont defend them

Your deluding your perspective by actually believing the nonsense you're trying to spill. It's almost like you're trying to say the first negative thing that comes to mind, and instantly believing it without any retort.

wise ledge
vivid cedar
#

fair

short kiln
vivid cedar
#

trueeee

mortal moat
#

i banned him because he said my feet pics are mid

cloud flicker
#

They are

mortal moat
#

:O

vivid cedar
wise ledge
vivid cedar
#

cant open that

short kiln
kindred spade
#

Once again, it's important to consider what's being defeated in a debate.

We're not defeating the person. We're defeating the point they make. The distinction is important.

mortal moat
wise ledge
versed fog
#

i love rule 1

cloud flicker
wise ledge
#

that is bias

vivid cedar
#

what is the point of this convo anymore im not really seeing it

wise ledge
#

to show bias

kindred spade
wise ledge
#

yes it is a spawn

mortal moat
kindred spade
#

It is a spawn, after all.

wise ledge
mortal moat
#

Spawn killing has never been allowed.
Kano found a loophole around the spawnkill protection, and was able to spawn kill because of it.
He was banned because spawn killing is a bannable offense, and always has been.

kindred spade
#

I don't think those who banned ka6noo have bias against him. But I don't really know ka6noo, so I can't speak on that.

wise ledge
#

spawn killing is warnable

versed fog
#

no

mortal moat
#

no

wise ledge
#

or atleast most people get warned for it

versed fog
#

spawn camping is

short kiln
#

no

turbid thorn
#

no

versed fog
#

spawn killing isnt

wise ledge
#

or kick warned

mortal moat
#

spawn camping and spawn killing are two different things.

wise ledge
#

well ive been warned for it man

short kiln
versed fog
#

spawn camping is warnable, spawn killing is bannable

wise ledge
#

look at my warns prettu sure there is spawn killing in there somewhere

mortal moat
#

Spawn killing isn't supposed to be possible with the spawn protection system in place. However, in the clip you can clearly see kano directly trying to- and succeeding in- making that spawn protection null & void.

wise ledge
mortal moat
#

He moved 2 feet in the clip, was obliberated.

wise ledge
#

because mercs aint have no spawn protection at the time

mortal moat
#

Kano just traced him until he left his spawn.

wise ledge
#

the spawn just came out

mortal moat
vivid cedar
#

from what ive seen spawn killing is kickwarn OR warn and serverban? but what kano did was mass spawn kill, so really i think an ecoban was justified

wise ledge
#

there was not even a say on who could enter the spawn

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there was 0 rules on it

mortal moat
#

So he broke a rule, but because the spawn didn't have adequite planning he shouldn't be held to a standard of common sense & the general guidelines?

#

That's a weak ass argument.

#

Spawn killing has always been against the rules. Spawn camping has always been against the rules.

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Both offenses were committed.

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You're not a moron,

versed fog
mortal moat
#

You didn't need a sign telling you not to spawn kill or spawn camp.

kindred spade
#

AMCS Spawn is a spawn
Spawn killing is prohibited
??

vivid cedar
mortal moat
#

I'd hope that you don't think so low of yourself that you think you actually need to see a sign telling you not to spawn kill or camp a spawn.

wise ledge
#

ive never seen a person get banned for spawn killing

versed fog
wise ledge
versed fog
#

as long as they have prot

#

u cant kill

mortal moat
#

Yet kano was able to get around it.

mortal moat
wise ledge
#

idk

kindred spade
#

Not mine either. But I do my best. :D

mortal moat
#

What is confusing you where you don't understand what I said?

small bear
#

i got banned for spawn killing in 2020 😭

short kiln
versed fog
mortal moat
#

You can see it in the clip. The only difference after the update is they had no barrier

wise ledge
kindred spade
#

I got banned for spawning in 1956

short kiln
mortal moat
#

So wastelanders used to be able to just walk right up.

#

Now they can't.

mortal moat
#

As soon as the guy moved, he was killed. Did not have time to fight back.

wise ledge
versed fog
#

what would happen if an officer or sc accidenally ecobans themselves

mortal moat
versed fog
short kiln
wise ledge
rich oar
versed fog
versed fog
mortal moat
versed fog
#

dont say that to him

short kiln
vivid cedar
#

ok chat why are we talking about this guys ban in this thread 💀

#

bit off topic ive just realised

mortal moat
#

If you are prohibiting movement out of a spawn by effectively killing them as they move and lose spawn protection, that's spawn killing.

versed fog
#

stay on topid

rich oar
austere ore
#

What is even happening now

short kiln
wise ledge
forest fern
#

i remember the days when spawn camping wasnt enforced

versed fog
versed fog
forest fern
#

there where raiders killingg every random wastelander once they step 1 inch out of spawn for "kd"

mortal moat
kindred spade
small bear
#

@mortal moat can we lock this thread its clearly going nowhere

austere ore
#

Honestly just close the thread now

wise ledge
austere ore
#

Everyone made their point

wise ledge
#

why close i

#

tt

mortal moat
wise ledge
#

just leave

austere ore
#

Use #🌐global or something

kindred spade
#

I am happy to discuss non-classified matters in DMs if anyone has questions for me that I may or may not able to answer

wise ledge
#

you can exit out the thread you know

mortal moat
#

If you were shooting in the aegis spawn hallway, it would've been SK.

versed fog
#

stop speaking so i can be last

#

pls

austere ore
#

The point of this thread is for the AIA issues brought up, not “bias” for a reasonable ban

versed fog
#

pls

mortal moat
#

^ I agree, it is getting offtopic.

forest fern
#

what did ka6nooo do

small bear
forest fern
#

sorry i didnt wanna read 100000 messages of this thread

wise ledge
mortal moat
austere ore
#

Anyone know the record for most messages in a feedback thread?

versed fog
#

idk

small bear
#

ok

mortal moat
mortal moat
#

And if that's all you were doing, it'd just be a warning for spawn camping so long as you were given a verbal warning to stop first.

#

Which it sounds like you were given an adequite verbal warning.

versed fog
#

pls let me be last to speak

mortal moat
#

Thankfully 🙏🏻

#

Anyways, yes, this is offtopic. Buz I believe even aced said he wouldn't mind it being closed, so feel free.

versed fog
#

fr

mortal moat
#

He heard my points, I heard his, we came to a conclusion.

versed fog
#

oi

austere ore
versed fog
#

who clowned

#

wow

forest fern
#

a

versed fog
#

no

forest fern
#

yes

versed fog
#

.

small bear
#

bye bye

forest fern
#

maybe

versed fog
#

bye