#Improve AIA weaponry

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prime agate
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Before I start this information has been allowed by AIA Hrs due to AIA weapons no longer being classified specially after the chairman gave them to everyone for a day.
Currently the AIA weapons are some of the weakest weapons in the entire game of DoD. The following stats are the weapons below.
The following stats are attached below.

Pistol Comparison
AX336 - Silenced Pistol | P226 - Initiates Ultimate Weapon
damage - 18 | damage - 18
armour pen - 19% | ** armour pen** - 19%
ammo - 17 | ammo - 17

PDW Comparison
LPX82-5 - Silenced PDW | MP7 - STHD PDW
damage - 12 | damage - 13
armour pen - 25% | ** armour pen** - 27%
ammo - 25 | ammo - 30

Pistol discussion: At the current state the pistol is alright as the p226 is by itself a decent weapon since it is a p226. However it could be worth while just buffing the gun by at least 1 damage to make it not a complete reskin although this isn't the major issue.

PDW discussion: This is the main reason I'm bringing this forward as a suggestion. As you all know STHD are looking to buff their PDW and I agree on their suggestion. However, it is also worth considering buffing the LPX82-5 as it currently has worse stats then even the STHD PDW. Furthermore, with its lower armour pen and 25 ammo results in it basically kissing a target to death. It serves absolutely no good purpose and is never really used by any AIA. Increasing this by even 2 damage or even 3 for its lower ammo could severely improve this weapon for AIA purposes.

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@azure slate Reactions please

azure slate
buoyant igloo
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i aint reain allat

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but i agree

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u guys seem to use like half of ur mag justy to kill someone

scenic swallow
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acordinmg to mr cortex theyh never were classified

prime agate
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Yeah.

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Just making sure no one goes reporting me

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but I've confirmed with defined and walac that its fine to post

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Tldr AIA weapons are the worst in the game.

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Specially considering what other guns non combatives get like a 1 shot 6 ammo revolver and a basically better 5ss shotgun

buoyant igloo
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wtf

prime agate
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A weaker

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STHD gun

buoyant igloo
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yeah

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aia a scam frfr

prime agate
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Good thing AIAs all have dews

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Or a vast majority

buoyant igloo
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i was gonna ask how much armour u get to see if that makes it any better

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but i think its classified

wheat wraith
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Yea why not

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Also buff ard smg 🙏

buoyant igloo
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i mean aia are in a suit so

wheat wraith
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It’s the same as the aia one in stats I believe

prime agate
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But guns def not after chairman gave them out to everyone for a day lol

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Idk might not even be classified.

buoyant igloo
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so i think it is classified since it dont say

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but says the guns but no stats

prime agate
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But I do find it funny that AIA guns are literally worse then divisionless

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Like you will see f2p AIA use divisionless weapons

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because its just better.

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I mean the silenced pistol is fine

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because a p226 is still a p226

buoyant igloo
prime agate
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except its silenced

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Its still slightly better then AIAs

buoyant igloo
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pretty much aia's public info is a copy/worse version of other divisions

prime agate
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Yeah like I compared it to the worst current guns in dod

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and its worse then those

buoyant igloo
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'soon'

prime agate
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Probably soon ™️

buoyant igloo
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according to some orange rank guy in aia PR

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yes

buoyant igloo
winter prairie
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if you’re gonna boost aia gun stats boost ard gun stats too

prime agate
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Tbh yea

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Although AIA needs atleast 1 good gun

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Specially since we still do have combat situations.

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Rn a f2p aia is kissing raiders to death with our damage.

dry moss
prime agate
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Yeah

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Literally STHD has more uniqueness

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Except silenced is pretty cool

dry moss
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makes sense for a secretive div

tough wadi
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suggestion denied ❌❌

prime agate
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The PDW is the main concern yea

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SInce the p226 is still a p226 and initiates ya know

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can kill you in seconds.

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But it would be nice to have that just even 1 damage higher

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Eh I killed raiders with it

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Just takes more time

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and effort

fluid vine
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real chads ONLY use the p226

unborn flare
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yea why give a divisional worse guns than a person that just joined aegis

fluid vine
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you should be lucky for having TWO of them

acoustic tide
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just let aia dual wield the pistols smh

prime agate
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Duel wielding silenced pistols with double the fire rate but longer reloading

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hot

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Look at stats.

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Several of the agents are f2p

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Oki you can use them then

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FRRR

acoustic tide
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isn't the sthd pistol LITTERALLY the p226

prime agate
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sthd pistol?

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STHD doesn't have a pistol

acoustic tide
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the aia pistol is really good

but the PDW sucks more than STHD's (which is already outclassed and bad in most situations)

prime agate
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Not really good its the same as the p226.

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Its just a decent gun.

lyric prism
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Yes.

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If this does happen, ARD SMG should be buffed along with it.

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Since uh.

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That thing is stupidly useless.

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I would want just at least extra ammo for it.

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Since we already have revolver.

acoustic tide
dusk grove
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as a raider I approve this suggestion

strong mortar
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Gaemer idea, we love our AIA

prime agate
verbal acorn
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@prime agate is the pistol actually silent or did it get the LRP treatment and is loud as shit?

latent thistle
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yes

prime agate
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Not great silencers but it can work ig.

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This is day of dusk

verbal acorn
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better than expecting a bottle taped on the end

prime agate
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Tbh irl silencers are still loud af

sly compass
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Aia is a non combat division

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So it’s low stats are understandable

verbal acorn
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huh.

scenic swallow
prime agate
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and its non combatic

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SC has a basically better 5ss and its non combative

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AIA still does combat and their weapons are worse then divisionless.

magic arrow
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ive never seen an aia really use these guns ngl

prime agate
dry moss
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id say aia has more combat than sc too 💀

prime agate
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nuh uh

dry moss
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it says one of aias duties is helping sthd and mdf eliminate threats

wheat wraith
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🤔

sly compass
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Bro ARDs would need more defense than AIA because they go on ore runs and are the backbone of the facility, and they are usually high value targets due to batteries, ores etc.

dry moss
sly compass
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Not to mention that AiA practically does nothing in the game, so they don’t need weapons that are strong as hell.

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SC doesn’t

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No one cares about SC realistically in the game

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Most of the Time they just standing around in the facility

dry moss
sly compass
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Wastelanders want ARDs

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Yes cause aia doesn’t do shit

dry moss
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p226 with silencer 💀

dry moss
sly compass
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What type of waste lander would care so much what aia does?

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It’s about who wastelanders see as high value targets

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Ards are the most attractive people in the game because of what they can do and behold

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I’m not hating on AiA but imo they don’t need to be prioritized as much

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Only buff I could see for AiA would be to reduce their recoil on their guns and maybe even decrease the noise their guns make since they are an intelligence agency and would be more sneaky and hidden

scenic swallow
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all aegis are to be treated equally

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by this i mean divisionals

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every divisional has their duty
if ONE division gets disbanded, the entire border goes into chaos

sly compass
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If you want to fight combat and have strong guns then join a different division

scenic swallow
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for mdf its border defence
for sthd its external ops
for ard its research
for pksf its personal protection
for aia its malicious entities
for sc its control

sly compass
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AiA just involves less combat and they aren’t high value targets in the eyes of raiders

scenic swallow
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ANY one fails, AEGIS undergoes a breakdown

scenic swallow
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we kill aia for kos

sly compass
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ARD holds more value

scenic swallow
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dont

sly compass
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Batteries, ores, infecting guns etc

scenic swallow
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sthd can manage the border themselves that way
all they need to do is protect reactor and manage coolant

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batteries are not a necessity

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ores can be strained

sly compass
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Yes but wastelanders want batteries to have fun

scenic swallow
sly compass
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So they will go for ards regardless

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Yes so that’s why ard should have stronger weapons than AiA

scenic swallow
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they can make their own batts...

sly compass
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And more defense

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Yes we can, but when a wastelanders sees an ard in the land, they will go kill that ard regardless

scenic swallow
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im saying "[REDACTED]" because its a real aia thing and I cant rlly say it

sly compass
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It’s fine

scenic swallow
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like most aia buy gamepasses instead to counter this issue

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a solution to this kinda problem outweighs ARD

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hence proving my point

sly compass
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What are the reqs to join aia?

scenic swallow
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and pass the commissioning process

sly compass
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Im sure people at that level have sort of gamepass gun

scenic swallow
sly compass
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Even if it’s only 1

scenic swallow
sly compass
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Ye I can see why

scenic swallow
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you cannot argue that

sly compass
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If they don’t they still have the credits shop correct?

scenic swallow
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are u fr rn

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ur telling me

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that u play for4 ish hours

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for a lousy sniper

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that barely scratches titanium users

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like bro u good

sly compass
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Players who are serious about the game almost always have gamepass weapons and I’m sure only serious players will go into AiA given how strict the process is

scenic swallow
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  • the whole idea is that AIA have to be quiet
    you can hear the L11 from outer space
scenic swallow
sly compass
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Their guns need more stealth capabilities rather than raw stat buffs

scenic swallow
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that may not be true

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I was completely F2P as STHD UO

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until christmas that was

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but there may be (or may have been) F2P aia members (new or old) that dont intend on buying gamepasses

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if im not wrong
former AIA UOC Marshxl was f2p in the olden days

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at the time they had different weapons though

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so it may not count as an arguement

sly compass
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I mean if they can’t keep up with the standards of AiA then maybe consider another division

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There’s plenty of other divisions

scenic swallow
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.............

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u do understand

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its not a REQUIREMENT

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for ANY divisional

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to have gamepasses

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right?

sly compass
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Problem is that this made a mistake in the beginning by making it p2w

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Yes I’m not saying make it a requirement

scenic swallow
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that means that aia should have a fair chance at the game, like every other divisional does

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right?

sly compass
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If it’s as secretive as it is then players should have stacked load outs in that division

scenic swallow
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wdym "should"

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they may or may not

sly compass
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Even if they do get gun buffs and you are f2p, they still won’t be able to keep up with the p2w

scenic swallow
sly compass
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There’s no way Dylan will make f2p have guns as close to p2w guns

scenic swallow
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im not saying that

sly compass
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1s still 1 shots them

scenic swallow
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rn if i blow air in a raiders general direction, i will do more damage than aia's LPX82-S

sly compass
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I see best buffs for aia as increased stealth

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That’s just my opinion

scenic swallow
sly compass
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Decrease their recoil on current weapons

scenic swallow
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and to efficiently carry out [REDACTED]

sly compass
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I never see AiA out of the border

scenic swallow
sly compass
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They always inside around a bunch of other aegis

scenic swallow
sly compass
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They’ll be fine

scenic swallow
sly compass
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Maybe make smarter plays then

scenic swallow
sly compass
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Sometimes it’s not about the guns it’s about your positioning and macro knowledge

scenic swallow
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brother

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theyre aia

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they have more iq than five raiders including u combined

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u cant say "mAkE sMaRtEr pLaYs"
if aia hit every headshot with their weapon(s), I will still win with a dew 4hm spray and pray

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that is called an unbalance and not a skill issue

sly compass
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Welcome to aegis

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This whole game filled with unbalancing

scenic swallow
sly compass
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I gtg though now for football, but I will continue this with you later

scenic swallow
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NOT

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let aia win every battle

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remember, aia are looking for defense weapons

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they are not combat divisions

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play that into your argument

river valley
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@prime agate ion wanna hate but yall arent combative

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so it kinda makes sense that you get weaker guns

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which is the reason why this suggestion is probably going to get denies

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denied

river valley
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like you are comparing a non-combative divisional gun to a combative divisional gun saying that the combative gun is better so the non combative gun needs a buff

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like thats the whole point

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either nerf all non combative guns to the point that they are worse than combative guns

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or leave it like this

river valley
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its just that ard experience way more combat

scenic swallow
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their gun is a reskinned p226

river valley
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and sc has a shotgun

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which

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is not good or bad

scenic swallow
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ur a hater fake

scenic swallow
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believe it or not

river valley
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normal aegis get shot the lest

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least

wheat wraith
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🙏

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the smg needs a buff though

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pistol i dont think really needs one but the smg does

river valley
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no

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during infection

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ard get shot the most

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because

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they are clearing the wasteland

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it does not depend on the distance

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a

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literally what u said

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then say that

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but still

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doesnt really matter

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buddy

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okay???

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every raider kills aegis bro

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so??

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what are u on about

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during infection

gaunt plinth
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i love AIA weapons

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!!!

river valley
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it does

wheat wraith
river valley
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Non mrt mdf cant go into wasteland

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same with non SAU sthd

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name me 1 occasion when you were allowed to go outside during infection

eternal linden
river valley
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outside the hangar

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fr

eternal linden
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Vadiuska!

river valley
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what are you yappin about

wheat wraith
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i see what fake is saying

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raider kills any aegis

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but if theres a crate or infection they prioritise ard

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because ard are the only ones who can cure it

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yes so what are u tryna say

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??

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yip yap yop

eternal linden
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What

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What is infection

ornate oar
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What

river valley
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mb

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mb

ornate oar
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Are you saying during protocol infection?

river valley
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yes

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but i was wrong

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ok

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or was i

eternal linden
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Your so cute

river valley
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brother

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you probably know the least out of all of us

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for what

eternal linden
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I see nothing

river valley
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u ar

eternal linden
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Lol

river valley
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cool

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sthd for how long?

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a month?

eternal linden
river valley
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i knew it

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bro

eternal linden
river valley
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he wont answer ur dm pal

eternal linden
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He was pro sthd before he left and became a noob

river valley
eternal linden
river valley
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try to join pksf

eternal linden
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Actually I can just check ur join date lol

river valley
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i hope ur background check gets rejected

buoyant igloo
river valley
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cowgashi is joining pksf

eternal linden
river valley
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buddy

eternal linden
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Yep

river valley
eternal linden
buoyant igloo
buoyant igloo
eternal linden
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Who do you believe

river valley
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pal

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dayum

eternal linden
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Cap

river valley
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the rain does NOT water

eternal linden
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U don’t have access to that

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So u lying

river valley
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fr?

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dayuuuum

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dayuuuuuuum

eternal linden
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I am am addicted

river valley
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i am addicted to u shawty

eternal linden
river valley
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call me

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the

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call me fakerizz

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ez

prime agate
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But a divisionals guns need to be atleast practical for combat. And AIA has combat. More then SC

loud dagger
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Dya of disk the brobrt

teal mason
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aia not combat div

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  • they basically never use them anyways
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ard isnt combat div but we use em alot

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for instance^

prime agate
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If it was buffed they would

teal mason
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ive seen aia use weapons like

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once

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or twice

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weapons in general

prime agate
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Yea because they're bad

teal mason
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not aia

prime agate
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AIA does far more combat then SC

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And just lower then ARD

teal mason
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idk if its aia being very active or aia not using them often now

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cuz sc got some combat

prime agate
river valley
teal mason
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meh idk

prime agate
river valley
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or buff aia a bit and nerf others

prime agate
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It would need a buff regardless

river valley
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other non combative

prime agate
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Other non combative divs are fine

river valley
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ard revolver

teal mason
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no rev is good the way it is

prime agate
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They don't exactly get a strong automatic with a 250 hp shield

teal mason
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otherwise

prime agate
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It is

teal mason
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we aint gonna do shit

prime agate
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If it was any weaker the rex wouldn't be viable

river valley
teal mason
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smg kinda sucks

prime agate
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Since its shots are slow

teal mason
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rev its goodcuz it one shots everything

prime agate
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Their smg is slightly better then AIAs due to their firerate and quick reloading

teal mason
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almost

prime agate
teal mason
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but ye basically u are

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im speaking as f2p

prime agate
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And as a f2p AIA its a death sentence

teal mason
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we coud use the JO rifle

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its decent

prime agate
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You need gamepass guns to even fight f2p people if you only plan on using aia weapons and gamepass weapons.

teal mason
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in relation to our smgs

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hi

prime agate
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But the fact is if the divisionless gear is stronger then all your div gear

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It needs a change.

teal mason
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yea

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though

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it isnt gonna change

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we gotta accept this

prime agate
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The PKSF is the only one denying it.

teal mason
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denying what?

prime agate
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But sadly probably true although coded plans on doing some updates this might accommodate.

teal mason
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o

teal mason
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faction update

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then i heard about infection update

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during conference

prime agate
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AIA gets targeted

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Most raiders target AIA when we are doing standard duties

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And specially that.

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Since we are "rare"

teal mason
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do you know what raiders target the most

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random divisionless doing bin duties

prime agate
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AIA

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They will actively try to find and kill you

teal mason
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possibly

prime agate
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Since again a rare kill

teal mason
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be more active!

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joke^^^

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i said joke!!

prime agate
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Global blacklist

teal mason
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😭

prime agate
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Removing from your division

teal mason
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no pliz

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0rgashi u deal with alts not div disrespect!

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go deal with tox6ic

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!!

prime agate
spice birch
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THIS IS A RESKIN OF MY SUGGESTION!!

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jk

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good suggestion

prime agate
spice birch
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yes

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lets choke as much out as we can from the devs while it is happening!!

scenic swallow
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@river valley whyd you downvote this lol

prime agate
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Ikr makes no sense

scenic swallow
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bro wanted to be different

prime agate
scenic swallow
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divisions are only noncombative in lore

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every division gets basically the same amount of combat

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one way or another

prime agate
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AIA is still combative in lore

scenic swallow
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oh wtf

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ard is probably the most combative division in the game lol

spice birch
prime agate
spice birch
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WITH 1 EXTRA PEN

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THATS IT

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its a reskin

prime agate
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Yeah

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Its still fine damage like it isn't needed for a damage increase what it mainly needs is like a silencer but extra damage would help

spice birch
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yes

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or MORE ARMOR PEN

scenic swallow
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??

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bro switched his account

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cause your on the same discord account and i recognize ur username from when it was verified to the other

cloud coyote
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they shld change the ax336 to like a silenced desert eagle

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that deals some damage

prime agate
scenic swallow
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give aia a silenced sniper

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sthd should have it

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but ig aia need it more

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it wont be very strong

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75 damage (enough to knock a target) and puts a tracker on the so aia know

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kinda like fortnite

cloud coyote
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i say not a sniper

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too bulky if they gotta be stealthy and watching people like the lore

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so a silenced deagle/hand cannon kinda thing

prime agate
unborn flare
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give aia a silenced laser cannon

scenic swallow
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if u play valo

cloud coyote
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like a marshal?

cloud coyote
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that would be sickkk

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and then no need for an smg

spice birch
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aia rpg

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or give aia drone

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that 1 shot

verbal haven
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Arent you AIA?

dry moss
verbal haven
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damn

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how much

acoustic tide
verbal haven
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hes SFA

acoustic tide
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idk how aoa works

verbal haven
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you need to be EFA to do interning

acoustic tide
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isn't interning stage 2

verbal haven
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i dont know about the stages in AOA

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well then i guess not

acoustic tide
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so i was right lol

wheat wraith
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s1 is fa, s2 is sfa, s3 - 4 are efa

verbal haven
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so s2 is interning

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but you cant actually pass it unless you are EFA

acoustic tide
cinder acorn
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Why the fuck would the aia weapons be classified

eternal linden
spice birch
quick mountain
scenic swallow
minor sparrow
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no they were declasified after chairman gave everybody everygamepass for that one day

scenic swallow
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its not on wiki

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its not declassified

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ur basically saying that if its not on the wiki its classified

prime agate
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And I could post their stats here so eh

cinder acorn
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Why the fuck would the aia weapon stats be classified

prime agate
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Directorate said they werent and I can post the suggestion

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so

scenic swallow
scenic swallow
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not public

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that dont mean they classified

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just means they arent commonly like known

scenic swallow
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toby literally said: no its a secret

wheat wraith
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yes but when did toby have influence on aia

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5+months ago 😱 😮

remote plover
prime agate
spice birch
prime agate
spice birch
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well for ingame

prime agate
spice birch
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nice

lethal pendant
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I agree with this as AIA should have the best weapons in this game as they worked their hardest to go in the division so they should have the best weapon in case wandering bin duties so they would not get embarrassed by wastelanders

prime agate
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They don't need the best they just need decent.

lethal pendant
cinder acorn
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joining the cia is also hard, but they dont give you the best weaponry in the world

eternal linden
cinder acorn
eternal linden
cinder acorn
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im pretty sure cia agents dont get the whole government arsenal

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either way this aia shouldnt as well

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thats the most idiotic thing ive ever heard of

eternal linden
cinder acorn
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and i want to say more words to describe how bad it is

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but thatd get me banned

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thats how stupid it is

eternal linden
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well there guns do suck they could use a buff just not the best guns in the game like that one dude said

prime agate
cinder acorn
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thats what im saying

prime agate
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Ye

cinder acorn
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someone else here said that you guys need the best weapons though

lethal pendant
dry moss
lethal pendant
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Also orgashi weren’t you STHD?

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Actually come to think of it

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Yeah slight buff will do

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Should be at least stronger than normal aegis weapons

lethal pendant
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Ok

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Yay

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I certainly agree with the fast fire rate

rotund halo
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I will bug dylan

prime agate
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Less damage for the pdw. It does shoot really fast. But pistol seems goob

rotund halo
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actually

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I'll make this a UM task, to sift through all the weapon alteration suggestions and see which ones are important to fix

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with this being one ofc

prime agate
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If I remember correctly since AIA was a shiny new division

eternal linden
scenic swallow
wheat wraith
slow rain
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went through slightly harder

prime agate
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Just a change in the numbers.

eternal linden
slow rain
prime agate
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Ik

slow rain
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I meant the task that corpsii gave me

lethal pendant
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Chairman needs to add this quick

lethal pendant
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Has chairman added this yet?

prime agate
lethal pendant
dry moss
slow rain
lethal pendant
slow rain
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Some hidden settings with aia guns have been changed, about the opposing weapons idk

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Shouldnt be that much

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Actually

lethal pendant
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Ohh

slow rain
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I think one of the aia gun's damage went off by 5 or sumth

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Chairman mentioned it somewhere

lethal pendant
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Should’ve went up by 5

slow rain
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Chairman said when people ask for a buff he just nerfs the opposing guns

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But he also sometimes buffs/nerfs some weapons a lil bit

prime agate
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They're pretty good now

slow rain
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thats good then

eternal linden
scenic swallow
slow rain
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aia weapon stats aint redacted but ok

scenic swallow
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its a joke zaddy

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dense depot
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silencer makes weapons less good

prime agate