Zipties

[still flower]

Zipties- Strong plastic ties intended for utilitarian use, but repurposed for capturing and securing a knocked down target. Often used by raiders for capturing high value aegis targets. Limited in use, and requires target to be knocked down.

Function:

Works exactly like normal aegis cuffs, but has a different model and can only be used on a knocked down individual (critical health). Victim will still heal while cuffed, and releasing them may be consequential. Victim cannot be cuffed again if released after they have healed, they will have to be knocked once more.

Would be used to capture AEGIS members and be able to do new things, such as holding people ransom or capturing people to infect with an S-100. For example, one could capture an AIA member and negotiate with PKSF. Just more activities and roleplay for the game.
Has a lot of risk associated with capturing, since you can still be shot by the knocked victim.

Obtainment: 25 ingots at ingot stores. 10 ingots for the ingot store in the raider base.

Pros: More things to do, fun thing to troll with, ability to create your own events aside from meltdown or outbreak. Hostage situations. Interrogations.

Cons: Maybe giving wastelanders zipties isn’t that good of an idea but it would be cool.

[median bough]

yo this guy might be onto something

[dusky imp]

Hmm hostages could be utilised more often with this

[warm canopy]

I like add this

[median bough]

it might be too op

[dusky imp]

Since like. Hicom can technically be taken hostage but its so extremely rate since the hicom will pull out a massive railgun

but

It could be really op

maybe for something like its a one use

[median bough]

imagine 10 raiders camping the roof elevator all with zip ties

[dusky imp]

or like you can only take UC+ hostage.

[median bough]

one person is standing there stunning aegis as they come out

[dusky imp]

Since AIA while rare and vital to the facility is not hostage worthy.

[warm canopy]

Yeah if they use zip ties they can’t use a gun so they will die

[warm canopy]

Why not anybody?

[dusky imp]

Because most of aegis aren't valuable for a hostage situation

and it will be less abused.

UC+ and maybe perhaps AIA since they're rare ig can be used on. But AIA would likely just terminate themselves.

[uneven sigil]

uh

[dusky imp]

But melee was denied by the chairman awhile ago

[uneven sigil]

this is a cool concept but ts like

giving wastelanders cuffs

i do think they should be alot more expensive

[dusky imp]

Thats why I'm suggesting it can only be used on targets that can be taken hostage

like when was the last time you saw a UC+ hostage.

[median bough]

it can be a cool idea with limitations

[dusky imp]

Not if there was a rule

aka no mini event = hostage = no admin abuse

[uneven sigil]

i did deal with a hostage once as pksf

its kinda boring

[warm canopy]

True but if an aegis member gets captured by a wastelander it would be really fun for mdf and sthd to go on like rescue missions I don’t think it will be abused as long as wastelanders can’t cuff each other

[dusky imp]

Well rules could be set in place and they kinda already exist regarding hostage negotiations just are never used.

By anyone.

But this suggestion I actually think is quite interesting as long as it can only work on certain ranks

that are valuable to the corporation

So you can't just hostage a PKSF or initiate lol

Sell the PKSF on the black market 🤔

Unless rules were put in UC guidelines and

[warm canopy]

Break it down for parts then wastelanders can get a shield lol

[dusky imp]

UC can't use fly unless its a minievent.

[dusky imp]

Lol

Turn the PKSF into a butler.

"You must follow them to the blackmarket"

yes

[median bough]

being able to take ucap+ hostage also gives pksf a better reason to properly protect their vip

[open blaze]

silly fucking idea

good silly though

[summer knot]

THIS IS KINDA FIRE NGL

WE NEED THIS

[sharp totem]

could just make it so only officer+/divisionals could be taken hostage

add regulations to it

or something!

or dc+

UC and DC+

UC, DC SC, AIA and maybe ard...

[sharp totem]

ambadablowww

[sacred river]

it only happens when they feel like it

and they never feel like it

[dusky imp]

Exaclty which is why it would change

[dusky imp]

SC and ARD are too common

ARD would be too easy as well.

[sacred river]

i approve

[dusky imp]

AIA and UC+ is the only ones that are possible. Probably just UC+. Hostages should be rare but highly rewarding to anyone that captures one.

[sharp totem]

gotta be knocked and user can use weapon

pretty hard 2 do

LOLOLOL

[dusky imp]

But heres the thing

ARD and SC aren't seen as vital assets

[sharp totem]

true

could do divisional dc+

your talking bout sc...

maybe ard blud

if anyone

uc+

are known

for doing

the most stupid shit in game

[dusky imp]

ARD nah

Specially since they gotta do ore runs

[sharp totem]

true

[dusky imp]

UC+ and maybe AIA.

[sharp totem]

could do divisional

dc+

[dusky imp]

AIA because of their rariety

[sharp totem]

since they get protection

[dusky imp]

but eh

[sharp totem]

from pksf

AIA are rare but eh

UC+ and DC+ would be good

and DC cant escape it

[dusky imp]

Mainly UC+ and DC+ Yeah.

[sharp totem]

(admin abuse will NOT be tolerated)

[dusky imp]

UC+ would need regulations

[sharp totem]

they still need them 💯

they be goin crazy in game

would not stop em

real talk..

DC+ would be good

they cant AA

UC+ would be a issue

make it stricter 😱

no more spawning in god into the game

[dusky imp]

Just put a rule in place that a UC+ cannot use administration during a hostage event unless they are actively doing a event in which the hostage situation would be invalid due to it interfering with the event.

Easy fix.

[sharp totem]

or they cant use admin..

unless in an event

or moderation

(no more mass btooling the game)

[dusky imp]

UC+ already has rules on admin

[sharp totem]

not strict ones

[dusky imp]

Thats why you don't see them constantly flying.

They have rules.

[sharp totem]

depends on the rank to be fair

i see them just going crazy with the b tools

and shit

not flying

[sacred river]

bud is trying to replicate paragon

[sharp totem]

doesnt everyone

[sacred river]

send to me

now

pls

🙏

[dusky imp]

No buds trying to look at actually making the whole hostage thing in aegis actually used.

Its never utilised

[sharp totem]

if it is used its usually a event being hosted by uc+

and it SUCKS

[sacred river]

10 robux

for u to send

[sharp totem]

is he a opp

top opp

certified kos

[solar gale]

i like this and the general of idea of suddenly going through the tower post, surprise attacking pksf and taking whoever they are protecting hostage instead of
“HEY UC, FOLLOW US NOW OR YOU DIE, WERE TAKING YOU HOSTAGE”
“No mercy.”

[spring talon]

give to MDF so i can ziptie raiders

[dusky imp]

No thats AIA job

[spring talon]

no

[dusky imp]

Let us do it

[spring talon]

i will ziptie u

in a sec

[elfin locust]

Would be nice to have hostage situations without me being required to fly over to where the raiders want me and then resisting the urge to leave for two hours

[scarlet sable]

I think this is a great idea and that it would be really interesting to see a hostage situation play out very good idea 9/10 and I agree with 0rgashi if it where to be added they should make it so that way only UC+ can be taken hostage.

[still flower]

just make it divisional since divisions especially MDF are valuable to the corporation. AIA is most suitable since they’re always puppy guarded by pksf from what I’ve seen.

It is my own opinion that this suggestion would add a new layer of gameplay to the border. Instead of aegis ALWAYS being on the defensive, they will be able to do their own raids more often. Raiders would capture a high value target and find an area to secure, such as the boarded up building near robotics, and it would be MDF, PKSF and STHD’s job to use actual tactics and plans to take them out and save the hostage, making the game way more fun.

[summer knot]

TRUE

we both need more to do

and this would make things more dynamic

with ransoms being paid and higher stakes special operations

real af

[dusky imp]

We are literally the abduction division. You guys are the murder everything in sight division. Both great but severely different end goals for the corpses.

[summer knot]

nuh uh id love for mdf to get zipties

it wouldnt be as OP as cuffs and would make for good help during operations

[maiden field]

i got held hostage my first day of ard

10/10 would do it again

[elfin locust]

I can imagine MDF needing to zip tie criminals in a printer raid or something

[dire gull]

i’m gonna say no only because the price is WAYY to cheap for what it can do

[summer knot]

can easily be adjusted

[vivid silo]

at the same time

isnt this just cuffs

[gritty sun]

I bet aia would just make it bannable to kidnap their members

[dire gull]

reset when ziptied

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elfin locust]

Well it requires the target to be knocked, and is a one use thing

Perhaps it can be a bit less instantaneous as well, taking a second or two before the victim is captured

[vivid silo]

they have to agree to be ziptied >:)

no consent

[knotty gorge]

i mean, some ard probably would be, for reasons you can probably guess

maybe not your average l1 but some ard perhaps

[vivid silo]

ard already have cuffs bru

you can use it for

subject recapture and many other things

[summer knot]

theyre talking about who to kidnap

not who to give zipties to

[vivid silo]

oh

ok

[sick prairie]

I wanna hostage situation