#VTOL changes

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untold coral
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currently, the VTOL is too strong. Its being used in most patrols and there is almost no counter to it as it has alot of health and is hard to kill and doesnt use any resources from AEGIS.

  1. my suggestion is to add some sort of fuel if you want to use it. maybe a couple of batteries or something along the lines of that.

  2. Another thing is to reduce its health. Its almost impossible to break it rn.

  3. also add a special stationary artillery weapon on different pois that appears if the poi is captured by wastelanders. This weapon won't be deal damage to players however if u shoot it at the VTOL it will come crashing down. You will need to buy its ammo using ores and it should be fairly expensive to buy. Maybe also make it able to disable the gate forcefield for like 10 minutes or something

slender wave
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I agree

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@iron root reactions

iron root
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das

slender wave
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I’ve tested the vtol with 8 raiders we spammed our weapons and the vtol didn’t even get damaged a lot

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With 10 raiders it atleast takes you 15-25 mins to take it down

untold coral
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exactly why needs to get nerfed

weak galleon
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And maybe a cooldown in the spawning

light inlet
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Fort poliax anti air turrets?????

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🤑

slender wave
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There is no way

light inlet
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There's gotta be a way to destroy vtol faster

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They can do a whole patrol around the wasteland in each possible location

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And we wouldnt even take 50% of its HP

slender wave
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But adding anti air would also be a challenge for the pilots they could use flares and shit more fun more action

keen basin
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sure

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we need more balancing anyway

untold coral
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the artillery weapon will destroy them

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maybe the artillery weapon uses similar technology as lab 2 deathray

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since lab 2 deathray doesnt kill people

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but ofc it wont explode fedoralite and batts like labb2

dense notch
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Health nerf prolly won't happen cuz it already got a 50% nerf, the other two sure, would be cool

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And I'd personally rather see gameplay being more interesting than another health nerf, so 2 and 3 sound good

slender wave
untold coral
dense notch
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It had 150k before

light inlet
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And chairman has... 7k health?

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I do not know

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Just to compare healths

timid garnet
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i made a suggestion before where you could get into warehouse to grab a work in progress dew that when you shoot it at a vtol, it would lower the vtol hp a lot to an amount where you could actually finish the job

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also chairman has less than 1500 hp since he cant survive a 1s headshot

untold coral
high plinth
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Imo, there should be a EMP that you can craft and attach to the radio tower

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that will bring down the vtol without damaging it

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and would unlock it

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or would heavily damage it and unlock

slender wave
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Add rib rocket launcher it shoots ribs face with a 5ss

high plinth
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💀

slender wave
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4 hits and it destroys all VTOLs except ribs

timid garnet
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so it would be a waste

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since you would die and youd need to get in the warehouse again

weak galleon
round beacon
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Anti air turret should taken multiple shots and no that gate part wont happen

dense notch
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I kinda like the battery/ore idea but it's also going to be a real pain when you're trying to fly for something important and there's no ard 💀

slender wave
dense notch
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Relies on people with proper clearance being online cuz pilots can't access warehouse

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No one but sc or ard can even open the outer door, then there's the vault

rare mica
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then use ya legs to go there hehehehehe

high plinth
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well if there’s something in the vault that is of increased importance to pilots then we should get warehouse access to defend it trollface_aegis

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i like the idea of an EMP though

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downs the VTOL and unlocks it, leaves a little health (~5 or 10k) for wastelanders to use

desert igloo
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I like the fuel so it cant just be used anytime, anti air would be cool

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👍

untold coral
modest locust
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Yeah reduce health a bit maybe

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But if you implement fuel for vtol

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I'd like that

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That and it could be incorporated to AED

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VTOL rarely get shot down

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And are used pretty often

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Last time I saw a VTOL get shot down was then wastelanders shot it down during FF with like 15+ raiders on

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And I was a wastelander at the time

timid garnet
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the reason that vtols are never shot down is probably more because they can just go and respawn the vtol any time its low hp

modest locust
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Yeah

untold coral
high plinth
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This will probably be pushed to AED

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bc repair and fuel n stuff sounds like a AED thing very much

untold coral
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which is comingn in 3 years

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before aed comes it can use an existingg fuel

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fedoralite

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or

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batts

spice cove
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@untold coral nah we good

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No vtol changes

untold coral
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its too op

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annd we all know that

spice cove
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Vtol is actually quite easy to shoot down

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No it’s actually not

untold coral
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whats the point

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if they can get a new vtol

spice cove
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And chairman already said he is not lowering the hp

untold coral
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and its not that easy to shoot down

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well not the hp part

spice cove
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It is

untold coral
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what aboout the other parrts

untold coral
spice cove
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That was pre nerf

untold coral
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well it just got halfed

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so 10 rariders will take 10 mins

dense notch
slender wave
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1 week ago

opaque nymph
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shuddup

slender wave
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Us 8 raiders

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All gamepasses

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Took us

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20mins

opaque nymph
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who was the pilot

slender wave
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@dense notch

dense notch
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Uh no?

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I haven't flown and i definitely haven't been shot down 💀

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Ah nvm just read context

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But yeah the VTOL is definitely hard to take down

slender wave
dense notch
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That'd be swifty and rib, but yeah

slender wave
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Actually even more we were 15+

dense notch
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I was just flying around godded

slender wave
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LMAO

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I was screaming in vc to everyone to spam the vtol with 4hm

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We did it for 5mins

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Vtol still full hp

dense notch
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It's weird cuz sometimes we take it out for patrols and it gets really low

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Even without heavy raiding

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But other times we can just sit there

slender wave
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Breh

dense notch
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They were all shooting the VTOL

slender wave
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No shit

winged nest
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would take 150 1s shots to bring down assuming they register

kindred perch
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vtol is rly op sometimes

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so yes nerf

spice cove
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@kindred perch chairman has already said he is not nerfing hp but there might be like anti AA gameplay in the future

fossil python
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Very good suggestion

untold coral
dense notch
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If only life was that easy lol

spice cove
# untold coral Thx, your toml so if u think it's good u can suggest it to chairman and then hig...

look lets be a little realistic, the only thing that would be remotely easy to do would to nerf hp but chairman has already said he would not do that, and when you think about implementing some sort of AA system for wasteland gameplay, where would that fit on the pipeline of things that chairman is currently working on so I mean if your willing to wait a while something might come of this but otherwise I dont see a immediate nerf in the near future

untold coral
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but like

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its too op

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andn something needs to be changed

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even if only the first thing gets added ill be happy

high plinth
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Suggestion is alright, some people in the comments though want to nerf the VTOL out of usefulness.

DoD encourages intensely sadistic gameplay anyway - with the insane amount of camping and it essentially becoming “respawn simulator” at times. No one in this game has any consideration for the gameplay experience of the other side, or the fact that spawn camping isn’t actually a “skill” it’s just being a jerk.

The VTOL is an escape from that - it actually allows people (divisional) to play the game, and not be stuck in a respawn loop for an hour while raiders camping roof rack up 100 kills each.

Nerfing the VTOL would immediately eliminate its usefulness unless the nerf was forced to be on a cool-down or other severe limitation, which would immediately make the other team cry and mald. Instead, wait for AED to be added to properly balance VTOL gameplay with repair mechanics to pacify both sides, instead of implementing a stop gap solution that satisfies no one and harms everyone.

untold coral
high plinth
untold coral
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Oh damn Even better