Adding Anti Air Missiles

[radiant shuttle]

I hate birds mainly those pesky exploiter species. Normally I would shoot them with the 1s and that normally works fine on their species. However, it has come to my attention that a far larger predator has shown their face. The Vtol, a beast nearly completely immune to most firepower of regular weaponry. This beast needs to be taken down. Thus we have come up with a idea. What if we had Anti air missiles/weaponry. A single shot one use large load up time weapon capable of taking one of these behemoths down. This weapon could be imported and sold in the black market for millions of scrap.

With the formalities in the way, while not needed at the current time or in the future. I have noticed that it is nearly impossible for a Vtol to be taken out by a group of raiders. In fact it can take over 500 1s shots to be taken out. In this situation what is the use of the vehicle even having hp if its never going to die by normal means? Well, having the option for raiders to use a single use, heavily expensive weaponry.

What are the downsides to this weapon?
As I said prior, it will be a single use weapon. when charging up before firing, your character will be stuck in place and only able to aim the gun. Once fired the gun will either hit its target or miss. In either of these situations it will be deleted from the player inventory. Furthermore, the price of the weapon will be hundreds of millions or even trillions in cost.

In conclusion, a top tier weapon for any user that has grinded enough scrap to eventually buy it. (That is if the economy resets) that has the power to take out one of AEGIS's aircrafts.

Enjoy this suggestion. It will be the first and probably last one I will make. This is not meant to be a troll suggestion by any means.

I will not be defending this against any reasons for it to not be added.

Yes they are. I don't see a issue.

[dusty sigil]

Fuck em up

[radiant shuttle]

I never posted a suggestion before till now since everything was boring.

Now I have my one contribution.

[wicked cloak]

this is the best suggestion I’ve seen in a while

blow the vtols up

[runic heath]

😭

[eternal holly]

THIS IS THE BEST SUGGESTIOn.

[dusky saffron]

The whole point is for it to not go down in one shot, and millions of scrap is pocket change in this economy

[eternal holly]

We need it now.

[dusky saffron]

You can't even take the VTOL out of the hangar without being blown up if we're selling 1 shot VTOL killers for a couple million scrap

[radiant shuttle]

Yes.

[dusky saffron]

Give VTOLs flares 👀

[radiant shuttle]

Flares could work on VTOL side.

Limited Flares though

[dusky saffron]

I mean sure once scrap isn't so inflated i don't mind this, as long as it's not one shot, and we have some way to defend ourselves (flares maybe)

But i personally don't see it happening

[radiant shuttle]

Oh a thumbs up button. Welp enjoy not pressing it.

It shows for me.

For some reason

Just entered mobile so yes. Plus I'm not up voting my own suggestion so ye.

[dusky saffron]

The original one has that option

Except it lasts forever

[brazen agate]

im a vtol pilot, don't shoot at me please ):<

[modern lake]

im afraid if you carry a passenger by the name of "ols_z" i will have no choice

[brittle wraith]

how much anti air can the vtol take

[hardy kettle]

Instead of making it cost trillions of scrap, Make it need an extensive amount of effort to manufacture in-game

Or perhaps, make it so that its components can only be found after looting them from the vault, for example.

Basically, instead of making it cost currency, the weapon should instead cost time (to make/use)

Imo it increases the in-game value of it far beyond what mere scrap could.

[odd dock]

very cool idea

i like

one issue

i dont think spawning vtol has a cooldown (correct me if im wrong)

[brazen agate]

Wow

[brazen agate]

It doesn't need a cool down

[odd dock]

vtol gets destroyed

pilot spawns new vtol

repeat

[modern lake]

vtol doesnt have a cooldown, but if it got shot down once, it'd probably be a cancelled patrol anyway

[odd dock]

vtol has like 600k hp

you would need 20 people 1sing that thing

for like half an hour

[modern lake]

I meant in the context of this new idea

[odd dock]

before destroying it

which is why i think that we should add this

of course not make it so easy to get

like rib suggested making you fetch things around the map to get it

but also not allowing the pilot to just respawn the vtol immediatly after that

[brazen agate]

The vyol has so much health that it will never be shot down unless if you had it hovering for like 30 minutes

Vtol

I'm not against the idea of an aa gun though

[odd dock]

vtol go 💥

[hardy kettle]

No

VTOL rn is designed more like an admin tool

so it doesn't have balanced gameplay or anything like that

Not surprising

[odd dock]

fukin dod and everything being unbalanced

[hardy kettle]

AAA started like JUST now

so

now that its no longer exclusively admins

it might be balanced

[odd dock]

🤓 technically it started a few weeks before

[hardy kettle]

if it was only being used for events / toml then ofc noone would bother balancing it

thanks for adding the emoji, you know how you sound then

[odd dock]

🤓

[prisma totem]

um actually in dod lore the 1s is supposed to be an anti vehicle / air gun

just make the 1s do 247 million damage ez

and to balance it out make titanium have 10000000k extra armor

heart does 50000000+ hp and turkey does 566 trillion + hp

more money for dylan

if bobguy wants to keep the lore with 1s for whatever reason, it might be cool for 1s to have like another mode where you charge it

ye xd

[pine walrus]

@radiant shuttle deathray muahahahahah

portable

😉

[radiant shuttle]

;)

Interesting to see how this suggestion has become more like plotting and seeing how this could work instead of arguing about it. Its quite nice to see.

[toxic jacinth]

Big gun yes

[radiant shuttle]

Yeah who doesn't like a bfg.

[civic flume]

I like this suggestion since I hate those gosh darn birds 🧌

[radiant shuttle]

This is so good but funny at the same time lmao

[radiant shuttle]

I tried my best.

Took 30 mins of writing/rewriting

[radiant shuttle]

We need a thumbs up button

[prisma totem]

actually, instead of making it needing to charge, it could require ferdolite or a battery for this "2nd mode" if it were to be added

(and it wouldnt one shot)

actually

ok this would take like

alot of work but

what if their was like this one

supercannon at poliax or behilium or smth

and if you put like 5 batteries into it

or smth

it could send some sort of targeted emp to a vtol

tempoarily disabling it for like

30 seconds to a minute

giving raiders some chance to take over a vtol lol

that or just entirely blow up a vtol all together

[radiant shuttle]

ToML use them against us in raid events.

[rich flare]

No.

[radiant shuttle]

First no so cool.

[radiant shuttle]

That would be interesting to see for certain.

[shadow leaf]

w h y

a wastelander suggesting this is ok but a aegis is just. . . what

hm

[radiant shuttle]

Best suggestion ez @radiant shuttle

More funny for Noah and I

[shadow leaf]

isthisajokesuggestion

i cant tell

[radiant shuttle]

Can we get noah approval

[shadow leaf]

NOAH

hold on

[radiant shuttle]

We busy rn doing our thjng

[shadow leaf]

GREER MAN

wait no

hmhm

DISEASE FILLED MAN

[radiant shuttle]

Gud gud.

[shadow leaf]

disease man?

hm

[radiant shuttle]

@magic current hottie we give reactions yes? Me and u make more warcrime with this cutie

[shadow leaf]

anywho why would noah want to approve anyway, he isn't a dev. ask blout or coded

mm

[shadow leaf]

[radiant shuttle]

🙏

[radiant shuttle]

He’s a Toml that can add reactions who said anything abt him deving

This suggestion is to help all warcrime lovers.

[shadow leaf]

sh

shh

[radiant shuttle]

No

[shadow leaf]

i brainded

[magic current]

mmmm Yes

[shadow leaf]

why you trying to become reasonable with oh my god

[radiant shuttle]

We do good war crimes bb 🤤

[shadow leaf]

bruh u sus

[radiant shuttle]

Why is approval needed?

We will be feared more

[radiant shuttle]

And u are?

Ha no

[shadow leaf]

braindead

[radiant shuttle]

He’s our secret

[shadow leaf]

it seems pksf have special ties to noah

actually im not wrong

noah was a peacekeeper

[radiant shuttle]

I have no fear towards them.

And Noah is my bb so he do what me say

Actually I have no emotions towards them.

[radiant shuttle]

Ardor

Why?

Which one lol

So?

[shadow leaf]

why is noah, me, marshxl and zoke the only people that "upvoted" this

aya

[radiant shuttle]

Because it took forever for the reactions to be added.

[shadow leaf]

tru

tru

[radiant shuttle]

Neither

[radiant shuttle]

Lets be honest it will bring peace

[boreal sky]

Ye this is cool, add it

[pure herald]

it takes skilled pilots to fly them

there's a vtol flying like once a day maybe 3 times MAX

it can be shot down it just takes a while

therefore i disagree

[gusty nexus]

HELL YEAH

[pure herald]

bro what

the VTOL has no guns

💀 💀

vtols constantly being shot down would just be chaos

it's balanced about right

they get shot down after minutes of CONSTANT dew fire

so it's not OP and not made of paper

[gusty nexus]

untrue

well true but

most of the time there are people in the vtol that will kill you

[runic heath]

Yeah bax is right. Once flew for 10 minutes under constant fire from dews and regular weapons and didn’t even lose a quarter of my health

It’s OP and even tho it’s nice how much health is has now that there are a lot more people who can fly it and flights happen more often they do need to be balanced

Patrols are literally invincible now because even if they are on the ground you can use the vtol as a shield for them

[pure herald]

But still there’s limited pilots and it takes a level of skill to fly

It’s not like random divisionals are hopping in VTOL’s and doing patrols

[runic heath]

Yeah currently there are 10 pilots

Most patrols, including regular aegis ones, are using a VTOL now

Not to mention we are allowed to use the vtol for ARD ore runs, helping clear infections, and to transport UC+

[runic heath]

That sounded very fancy 🧐

[rich flare]

No.

[boreal sky]

They can always just say that you're silly and your entire argument will be destroyed

[robust sentinel]

me like.

if i ever become a raider this will be awesome

since i have 11 trillion scrap ☠️

[odd dock]

whos gonna tell him that having a lot of scraps doesnt contribute much to raiding

[radiant shuttle]

You will become kd for the raiders.

[radiant shuttle]

didn't read this but sounds painful for everyone and destructive

so UPDOOT

[lavish bear]

patchetic

[robust sentinel]

nah i meant cuz

the launchers r gonna cost like

a ton of scraps

and i have a shit ton of scraps

[radiant shuttle]

You're poor compared to most of us.

Im poor and I have 2002 trillion

[radiant shuttle]

Pathetic

I have two scraps

Like I said. I'm poor.

[hardy kettle]

Instead of adding anti air missiles

How about adding an EMP

if activated over the wasteland

Would knock out a bunch of capture points

And also down the VTOL and unlock it

Both sides would have access to it

And make it so that if the VTOL gets EMPed twice, it explodes

That way there’s no back-and-forth

[hardy kettle]

Maybe reduce its health asw

[vivid fulcrum]

suggest that

could maybe also be used by raiders to fuck with the power

ard is gonna hate you for suggesting that lmfao

[radiant shuttle]

Honestly this is just really interesting to see how all of you are making your own ideas that are either a variant or modifications to the original one I put up. Quite interesting.

[boreal sky]

Just make the vtol explode randomly

That'd spice things up

[modern lake]

ah yes, critical random engine failure

1.2% chance?

[lavish bear]

True

I have 4006T

[prisma totem]

i suggested a simular to idea and nobody responded 💀

[lavish bear]

Fair

[boreal sky]

it's cuaz you got iconic patriot bro

[wary stump]

add a chance that the missile misses (cause manpads are just oh so reliable) and just nails the aegis facility, blowing a hole into the side of it for a few minutes, or disables doors

either to create a new raid route for a few minutes or to encourage taking well placed shots that won't miss and block off doors

counter argue me all you want your arguments will simply glide off my smooth brain (the smoothest of 'em all)

[fleet briar]

Make the driver of vtol killable, they have an invisible wall around them🥲

[shadow leaf]

Have you tried to kill the vtol pilot before?

[hardy kettle]

It’s basically impossible

There’s like a single pixel of the hitbox that sticks out that’s it

The only time I’ve been killed is by an exploiter

And that’s how it should be

The driver is the easiest to kill and easiest to target, if they were killable then the entire point of the AAA would be nullified. It would make vtol pilots be extremely vulnerable to even the least skilled L11 owner.

The killable argument would apply if DoD had a very large map and the vtol movement was more responsive and the physics model was better, but none of those are a thing, so the driver should stay unkillable.

Infact the VTOL pilot has to lock the VTOL in place while boarding and dropping - which is when killing them would be a piece of cake.

[hardy kettle]

(That’s only if you get stuck in a half running position - otherwise there’s no hitbox)

If you wanna kill the VTOL and capture it you’re gonna need to put in more effort than just shooting the poor meatball sitting at the front who can’t even shoot back or stand up and dodge.

@fleet briar ^ response to making the pilot killable - I don’t expect everyone to agree with it but read it anyway.

[fleet briar]

Yeah, that's how I found out it near impossible

[fleet briar]

Well I guess so but if you went through having to kill the rest of the crew and avoided the co pilot seat (killswitch) you should be able to at least kill the pilot even if it means despawning the vtol

[hardy kettle]

If you get in then the pilot has a hitbox

Can confirm

It’s a bit tricky but it exists

[fleet briar]

Oh

Does the vtol dspawn if they die?

[hardy kettle]

That’s why like the main thing that AAA pilots worry about is getting boarded

No

But atm it’s locked to the pilot

[fleet briar]

Ahh

[hardy kettle]

That’s why I suggested an EMP

[fleet briar]

I tried killing a pilot once and got in the co pilot seat didn't know u guys had a killswitch💀

[hardy kettle]

It lets you take over the VTOL by downing and unlocking it

[hardy kettle]

Muhaahaha

We have killswitches for all the seats

If you touch one and sit down you’re fucked

[fleet briar]

Welp

[hardy kettle]

There’s even one for the pilot to suicide

Just because

Idk

[fleet briar]

Yes

Wait so when pilot suicides vtol despawns?

[hardy kettle]

No

It stays

[fleet briar]

Hmm

[hardy kettle]

There are other ways to despawn it + a timer I think

[fleet briar]

Ahh

How many vtols can be flying in 1 server?

[hardy kettle]

♾️

[fleet briar]

I hope they set a limit tho

[hardy kettle]

Meh there’s not that many pilots

[fleet briar]

As cool as they seem they are annoying

[hardy kettle]

A limit isn’t needed

There’s like 2 online max at once

[dusky saffron]

We have many things