#Stop letting PKSF go on top of the helipad???
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ain’t like y’all don’t got snipers
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is flanking not allowed anymore?
do you just expect us to throw wave after wave uselessly?
like y’all don’t camp that too
Bruh..
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raiders are able to get on the helipad (as there has been before)
but yes we will just try shoot them from the roof
we also don't spawn on the helipad
might be shocking news to you
The topic is so stupid 
its the border operated by the aegis corporation
It looks like you are very strong
I'm weak at this because your weapons are different. p2w 
work to win better
join pksf for tools and armor
last I checked there was a barrier on the top level of the elevator shaft on tower
you can turn that off
oh
on the elevator itself
you still can get up to the helipad
we cant leave the elevator
you still can trust
ehhh
yeah sorry sir yes sir, a private military company cannot use its territory to shoot raiders
"if raiders cant go sc room, then why can sc go into sc room???????????????????????????"
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how can we abuse it
to shoot you must have a clear line of sight
raiders can fire back
raiders can get on the helipad
oh so you cant crack the tower elevator?? 🤯
mindblown
oh well
thats factual then that barrier was probs added recently
chairman spawns there
if you use it for its intended purpose, great, if you use it to snipe from an area we cant even get to or counter you from, not so great
we literally cannot counter
if raiders could get up there then I wouldnt care
but we simply cant
or not a allowed location for people unless vips r there
this
or just remove the barrier since the location is actually used now whereas before I didnt ever see it used
pretty sure it wouldnt affect dylan actually using it were the barrier to be removed
since we'd be forced through a tiny door with no cover, were he actually appearing there it'd be difficult for raiders to enter with multiple PKSF up there
im aware of multiple pksf using helipad to snipe raiders then moving back to a position we cant even shoot from
ye, but aegis only barrier prevents us from leaving
So y’all mad that we are doing this
BUT
You camp elevators and roof
Hmmmmm
But u guys camping roof is fair?
I’m not trying to come off as rude
But you say what we are unfair when it’s unfair that you are camping the roof yes. Then once the elevator with aegis in it opens you mow them down
@winter heart ngl your guys excuse for anything overpowred is “you guys camp elevators”
@polar hearth
i dont think yall take into consideration the fact yall sit in caves, sewer, rockstar, below elevators, behind doors, behind walls towards raid routes, tls, our spawn, gate , cave entrance
but anytime we get nerfed seriously, all of a sudden in suggestions everyone says “you guys camp elevator and roof” wawawa 3v35
legit under 15 years of age or 35 plus are aegis no doubt about it
legit
but they run out as soon as they respawn instead of building up a push
raiders when they cant camp the every exit to the roof (its unfair)
raiders using their skills to spam click on an elevator with a 5ss (very fair)
pksf can go pretty much anywhere besides aia as far as i know
in the facility i mean
no we can’t
there’s a barrier just like other roof enterance
if you’re talking about that
idk how pksf even get there in the first place
skill issue tbh
nah they cant
theres a thing blocking it just like second roof entrance
I tried getting in there a while ago and it didn’t crack open for me
Only way I knew it was the heli pad was using shift lock to see through the wall
but
Just cope
raiders cant get up there
its fine untill the pksf either start sniping from it or theres 5 pksf and they all jump down at the same time
No we can’t
If it’s a private military company you would think it would have the funding to upgrade non divisional guns for better self defense
just a raider skill issue
not sure what thats supposed to prove
They're in a post apocalyptic world, money is useless, they need resources to do stuff like that which AEGIS probably doesn't have an over abundance of
@lusty magnet flop
@delicate flicker flop
???
Didn’t even realize this existed.
No?
the door might be but its inaccessiable
we are allowed up there if roof is getting camped which it was to help clear it
“oh no we are camping elevators with 5ss how unfair we can be sniped and not just be allowed to camp!”
the only reason we jump down is because there is no way to get back in from the top
the intention of going there is to snipe not flank
Honestly skill issue IMO
average raider logic
ive always wanted to snipe up there when i was first a raider, but seeing it now it'd be too op for camping roof as wastelander since you just got a huge terrain adventage. and when pksf snipe from up there, you can attempt to 1s them from TLS or almost any tower in the middle of the map as their character is well-seen with a scope
another alternative would be getting next the chairman tower's walls or get cover under something
Sounds like a skill issue.
with the fog we cannot see TLS or any tower from up there so we are a sitting duck to snipe from a distance
just go on tls and snipe us we cannot see anything past the gate fence from there
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fr bro
L suggestion
I’d argue it’s not very realistic with PKSF jumping down from tower and not flattening their bodies
But that's just Roblox.
Yeah, still it’s a bit stupid
But I’d argue aegis need to actually be a bit more organised and idk not let raiders take roof before getting camped in to shit
@tiny crown so you agree on not letting pksf go up that tower
I agree they should be allowed up to snipe or maybe give Sthd some sniping room type thing up there but you shouldn’t be allowed to jump off
Kills 2 birds with one stone gives Sthd some content updates and makes the game feel more realistic
oh ok
So yes I agree it should be compromised on
And from a personal perspective I think raiders should be able to get anywhere other than aegis spawn and sc room
@winter heart I think u should rebrand ur suggestion to this read down
also chairman exit doesn’t make sense
Can we talk about raiders climbing the cliffs in order to bypass GC? Is it a bug or intentional
pretty sure it's a dev mistake
has anyone made a suggestion or a bug report yet
devs are notified of it
glitch abuse
alr cool
They already do get everywhere.
But then again, the main focus for the game is focused on both sides; the game should not be, or is not entirely built around key cracking into areas your not supposed to go into.
As of now, if you raid, you have no clear objective other than to meltdown the site.
main objectives are probably farming kills, meltdown, freeing subjects, (raiding bats), and doing lab experiments
My point is the purpose we exist is to counter raid by doing stuff like this.
Your options are to get better or stop raiding.
pw2 1s works well against this\
i would say to just let raiders up there
lock all doors during protocol processing
if that was how rules worked, no one would be allowed to jump off of the roof
nor the balcony or other high up areas that everyone and their mother have jumped off of
we definitely won't be restricting any jumping off of things until fall damage is added to the game 💀
standing on the helipad and shooting might get some restrictions, as honestly i find that it makes the PKSF sort of useless for defending the border internally
but it will not be becoming a warnable offense to go up onto our own helipad and shoot from our own helipad
"lore" should not have anything to do with combative divisional rules
the main arguments ive been seeing is that it doesn't make sense by LORE for us to be up there
yes on a technical level he owns everything in the border
the helipad is meant for PKSF and ToML+ exclusively, though
there are many areas in the border that people can go to when they shouldn't be able to
anyone with a level 2 can wander down into the ARD sector
what's the difference
they're both rooms that some people can access when they shouldn't be able to
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i imagine chairman was a bit sick of being spawncamped
then that's a personal suggestion for you to give to chairman
"use :god more and let us get into your spawn room"
yep
it's got a nice little dev relaxation area down there now though
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there's also still a bunch of buttons on the walls that he uses in there
i doubt he'd want to remove all of it just cause raiders want to sit on a bench

there is your tactical advantage
well they can't shoot you from up there when they're hiding can they
problem solved
then 1S them after they've waited for a moment
so can you
how does one get up there
you've got the whole wasteland/roof to run around
move when they move
flick to their location
be dark colours and hide yourself in the darkness
we can't see usernames from up there
too far
not if its super dark
then- then- then- hit 2 shots 😱
aim
he's got an opinion
and his opinion is get better
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then you should be able to kill us up there
use strategy
be dark colours
move around when they move
just because your a raider doesn’t mean your entitled to a free opinion
just get better
simple
holy shit just fucking wait
15 minutes
true the day is short as fuck
also uhh
if its day
maybe dont focus on areas where they can hit you from the tower
them being up there is them being distracted from your meltdowns or your lab raids
use that to your advantage during day time
then go kill them when its night and they cant see shit
or
just hit your shots before they can
during day time
by 1Sing them from below when they cant see you cause its dark as hell
are you trained in long ranged combat
do you know how to line your shots
my brother in christ
get
better
bro we are glowing
we have several neon material parts for you to see
and a bright white glowing shield
how do you snipe anyone from anywhere then 💀
@waxen drum wait are pksf allow to jump down from there
if you cant see glowy bits
yes
there's no other way to get back down
how 💀
eh
do you guys like use a lift to get up there
i think they dislike it because fall dammage and shit
quite obvious theres a lift
fall damage doesn't even exist in the border fuck making a rule about fall damage 💀
yea
tower elevator and then a one-way lift
oh
this guy knows whats up
the roof of the tower is clearly a fighting point to defend the roof
your job as a raider is to adapt to that
and instead of shooting them once
shoot them twice
kinda basically saying I can use hanger vtol lift to flank!
but with no protection it’s fine I guess
they are a challenge
using hangar vtol lift involves climbing cliffs and terrain which is why that one isn't allowed
- it doesnt work
hm
naw it still works with the new terrain ive done it
omg I want city badge!!!
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seems like when we tried it we just arent very good lol
manchair mightve moved it more since the time i tried to do it ig
just deal with it that your one shot weapon is now a pretty good weapon. You can STILL kill a PKSF and I’ve seen raiders kill one before
It’s hard to fight raiders so god created pksf
I'd have to agree, this does give raiders a huge disadvantage
you literally 1s their shield
so why are you arguing that
just shoot them three times
it is a good thing to prevent raiders from camping roof constantly with 5SS
Cry about it. And don't you guys have a shield anyways?
everyone has 1s
a shield that takes one 5SS hit and then we gone
its literally easy to kill pksf
we are safe from one direction only
1s + 3c or 4hm
and that one direction of safety can be broken with a single shot
ok true play defensive
oh ye heres another way
you download exploits
tp behind them
fr
we already esablished that PKSF is the countermeasure to a raider buying every single gamepass
Cap.
no cap
if you can land a single hit of 5SS that shield is gone
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all combat divisions are pretty equally trained in combat
we just have different equipment that separates us
MDF, STHD both are anti-raiders, and sometimes they do good, yes
we are
anyways guys im getting active and i will camp helipad 24/7 with my 5ss
STHD has extremely shitty equipment
some arent
most of STHD is pretty good at combat 💀 their gear just sucks ass
some STHD are experienced in combat
swifty, doesn’t PKSF have a dew-like weapon
naw
damn
our weapon is slightly worse than MDF's M16
MDF's M16 goes crazy though
so i mean our gun is good but it's absolutely not dew level
ah I see
we can’t get down without jumping?
Nah sthd sucks in general
according to lore it’s dew like
we fight them in checkups, trainings, raid events, etc
so, keep in mind the purpose of PKSF is to protect very important people and assets, so of course they are going to have countermeasures
But performance wise it’s definitely not
ive fought plenty of STHD
so, as a raider, why not
they're pretty average in combat 💀 as the rest of the combat divs are
get better
it’s not impossible to kill a PKSF
I argue the system is okay as it is
doesn't mean they're automatically better
if we put a ARD against a STHD who would win
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really depends on the skill of the ARD and PKSF tbf
oops
ARD and STHD
ARD has been a lot more combative recently
at the head
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isn’t the ard rifle god awful?
it is
ur talking about the revolver
no, I mean the rifle
yes it sucks
worse than the g14 if i remember correctly
ok
I argue that because of the rifle, they were just given it just for kicks
or weapon testing
But I'd have to agree that pksf should only go up there if the chairman is online, they can easily guard the border from roofs, cliffs, and caves.
not when raiders are camping the roof
lol
what if caves raiders are camping the roof
what do we do
are we going to go up the elevator and die to a 1s?
no, of course not
we adapt
theres no point in this the chairman wont allow it regardless
wont allow it ?!?!?!?!?
wont allow what
the suggestion
oh
he might
Rush us pussy ass dumbasses.
i hear copage
you have always been
Like seriously it isn't hard to wipe us out.
You guys just suck.
it is very hard when you've got 5 raiders up there with 5SS and 1S 💀
all pointed at the elevator
I only use 5ss indoors now and days.
And you guys got numbers, maybe if you all were stuffed in the elevator you'd have a chance.
Xx
yeah that's really the only chance, but that isn't really reliable
I only see about 4 or 5 of yall in 1 elevator. And also you got three places to exit out from.
3, that uh...middle area near the crates
Thats not a passage
we can't get up there without getting to roof?
that’s just a area
I saw a raider go down there and I kept them in there for so long they got bored and resetted
I mean all of this could be fixed if render distance was fixed. Then I could easily snipe pksf from polisx.
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dont
fucking do that
the fog being like that is on purpose isnt it
theres a reason why the fog exists
its been like that for about 2 years 💀
you do know if you set your graphics to like 5 to 6 you can see through the fog
only by a lil bit
Theres a reason why you can’t unrealisticly snipe beyond the fog
because that would be game breaking
it gets rid of the blurriness but the fog itself stays when you're on 7 graphics
i should go in a private server and check out how fog-less dod would look sometime
There can't be fog in a damn desert.
its some kinda duststorm bs
constant sandstorms be like
ya we cant see shit from up here at night time
aw do embeds not work in these feedback things
Eh better to fix render distance to me, makes it easier for me to recon
Yes.
raider logic
use sniper
proof where
I disagree with this suggestion.
See this would have been a good suggestion
3 times
because he used 5ss on me
Ehm I was on his account and I did that 🤓🤓🤓
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If chairman is there, then that is reason enough. Plus PKSF are usually allowed most places. Not sure why you have a problem with it. Also, pretty sure there are ways to get in there from other than inside the facility.
Pksf can go anywhere especially with VIP
Wrong.
Not exactly everywhere.
pretty much, just not everywhere
- sc room
@sand crystal hm they changed rules
how many rules have been changed when I was gone 😭
just like mdf allow to go to z14, mdf would’ve been STRIKED for touching radiation
what
it's been like that forecer evan
it was like that when i first joined pksf september 2021
HIH
WHAT
no no
mdf used to not be allow into z14 or any radiated areas before
none of ur business smh
^
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right,!?!?
are we about to
pls dm
what is being debated here
pksf being allowed to go anywhere (no one cares)
(skill issues in play)
ur mum
Lol
because STHD has shit armour and weapons
while pksf has the best armour, shield, and one of the best divisional weapons
a fair 1v1 with the same weapons and armour could go either way
what even is the argument here anymore
we are bad at game and want to camp roof but pksf wont let us 😠 😠
PKSF only really go up there when roof is overrrun and being camped.. It's pretty easy to countersnipe from cliffs or even easier from TLS, since we physically cannot see that far from up there.. We're also sitting ducks when sniping from up there, being bright white and at night, essentially forced to scope in
I don't see why it's a huge issue except that it forces you to watch one extra spot when camping roof for ages
And only PKSF can go there, it's not like there's 12 divisionals sitting there sniping
ok HereComesMrWaffles.
Alrighty HereComesMrWaffles!
thats a cool fact HereComesMrWaffles
Kinda following up on what light said, we've been instructed by our UOC to only utilize it when roof is being camped. We don't sit up there with a 1s aimed at cliffs, once roofs are cleared we come down. You can't argue that helipad is broken when its only used when elevator is being camped by 5ss users. Its not overused or abused, its a balance to people camping elevators.
fr
i dont even have a problem with raiders being allowed up there i see your point there
but to prevent pksf from utilizing a location is kind of silly
raiders should not be allowed up there. its a spawn, for the chairman
They can have access to the whole facility, it's crackable for a reason.
raiders cannot access the whole facility
Mostly every thing.
they arent allowed in AEGIS spawn, so they shouldnt be in chairmans spawn
Raiders don't have to access the ChairMan's exact spawn room, I don't even know where that is in the tower.
At least I don't think so.
he spawns on the helipad
Then make it fair.
If PKSF can access it, so can raiders.
Or reverse it and let no one on there.
why should raiders have the opportunity to spawncamp the chairman?
First of all, the ChairMan doesn't join the server most of the time, and he's guarded by PKSF which would lower the chances of him dying.
if raiders are on the helipad when he joins they could block the door with the keypad cracker
Has that ever happened?
how would i know? its not like it would be impossible
Plus, I think they have better things to do other than break into the border, access the tower, get to the helipad, wait for the chairman to join, and immediately spawn killing him.
The chances are low.
im just saying if they ARE there and he joins
And even if it did happen, the ChairMan could probably teleport.
even so i doubt he wants his spawn being camped
And if they did block the door with crackers, the door open after at least ten seconds, and you have to close the door, and use the cracker again, which can also delay the time, and the PKSF can get in.
It's clear that the ChairMan doesn't like being pinged, so he most likely doesn't being spawn killed. But that doesn't mean he can teleport away.
Yeah, maybe he will implement this rule in the future if it does happen, or if he thinks it's a good idea, but for now, raiders are allowed up there.
Or maybe just implement a rule that you can't spawn camp the ChairMan.
Easy as that.
you would be surprised
Yeah true, but they probably couldn't wait that long.
spawncamp the chairman, how is that even possible
while we are attempting to kill him, he has already gone somewhere else due to his hp amount
the chairman doesn't join the server most of the time
and when he does, he'll get spawncamped, and then the issue arises again
he's guarded by pksf which would lower the chances of him dying
we don't sit up there on the helipad anticipating when he's gonna join
when the helicopter flies over the wasteland, we find out he joined and have to rush up there at the same time the raiders do
while we are typically closer to the tower at that moment than the raiders are, that's not true all of the time, as they might already be raiding that corridor as he joins and can get there before us, then allowing him to be spawncamped
not if he's afk up there, which he often is
@winter heart Why should PKSF not be able to go to the helipad when it is one of the places the Chairman can arrive in-game at? You might as well making it so that PKSF can't go into the Chairman's office if it's going to be like that. If PKSF can't access the helipad then how will they able to protect the chairman from raiders when he is arriving in-game or on the helipad? It could potentially lend to raiders spawn camping the area which would be annoying and a big problem. Also you raiders can camp at the elevator and the hall leading to the border gate.
and you can camp cliffs and caves
ez
and rockstar
and literally all the other places
cause you have a advantage to
exept you guys dont for some reason
Cope+seethe+mald🤓🥱
Fr
Bro, for example what about VTOL, we can't fly with it as AAA because you can't fly with it as wastelander??
They may go there if chairman joins, as it's for fast reaction to protect him, why do you think else they may have access to it.
And you expect us to just go on the roof in waves to just get killed by single 5ss going to the elevator.
It's supposed to be fair for both sides.
You guys for example were killing wastelanders at the lines from TLS at last border.
It's to make it fair for both sides.
The elevator at the back is blocked due to raiders just cracking in, as it's used for roof access if needed also sometimes, but only L-2+ may open it.
I am just giving an example, it's like you were sniping clear wastelanders as they wanted to get processed only from TLS, and now you just, wow, they added a fence!!! We gonna have to get them to remove it!! As it has to be on our side.
You already mostly have better position.
The exit of the elevator may already be camped from many spots, such as RDM, cliffs, tower(near vent), or even behind from it.
Some side is losing on this and other one gains, but in next update it may be same thing for other side to make it more fair for example.
Bro, you are already camping elevators, how do you expect us to come to the roof and just die?
That's our way to get though if you are camping elevators.
not when you camp that one too
And?? we are 24/7 mostly in incursion, as you all win.
That's not balanced game in my opinion.
- You want more to just get more kills.
I've seen both elevators camped for ages so idk what you're talking about
That's actually one of the scenarios where we use the helipad, because it's slightly more productive than rushing to our deaths over and over
Or i can go up to the helipad and pick off a few raiders which at the very least forces you to be weary of another angle
Rather than mindlessly camping two spots for eternity
Seems more effective than pinging people hoping we get more bodies to throw at the elevator
If it’s night it’s impossible to see you
@winter heart
Doesn’t matter
Fog masks that
And night vision is directional so looking down is just pitch black
The only thing we see is bullet tracsrs
And there are restrictions to the helipad @winter heart
Classified
But what I can say is
It’s in very specific situations
Actually
It might not be
Kind of the same thing with the roof camping
No it is
We're glowing white and we're visible, you can shoot us from cliffs, or like sr3lite pointed out, a sniper at TLS ends us very quickly.. at night we're forced to scope in if we want to see anything, making us sitting ducks
The helipad isn't hard to counter at all, anyone that's raided for a while and is unbiased can tell you that
^^
It just gives us a more viable counter to roof camping than hoping you get bored
People hardly jump from it, we use it as a sniping spot, which you can counter as I mentioned here, most the time you see jumping it's just people falling off
that one time where 6 pksf jumped off from it:
We don’t go up there for just shits a giggles there is always a reason xzzz so it’s not really been my experience that raiders are complaining
You can't possibly complain about us flanking when you're camping for ages and aegis are forced to run to their deaths over and over
^
And again, it's only PKSF that can go up there
Literally never happens, happened once
I'm saying it isn't
You camping the roof is broken
And holding it for eternity is broken
A raiding spot can most definitely be broken
It isn't significantly hindering raiding in any way, it's just forcing you to be more aware and cover an extra direction
There is 1 added chance for aegis to take back the roof and you act like it’s impossible to raid anymore
And that’s the only condition pksf are up there for
honestly all you need is a good controlled rush, that always worked for me when i was in aegis
I mean but organizing a controlled push takes a lot of time and sometimes is ineffective
are you still talking about this nahhhhhh 💀
ya like ive never died from a pksf being up there, just go around them
or 🌟 use a sniper 🌟
cant be so hard, they're pretty goofy after all
Yes
this suggestion is just "hey, dont defend the border"
based asf
ong
@winter heart @winter heart i got 20 kills on helipad
I can't believe he got 20 kills on a helipad
🙀
No
Pksf have 2 jobs kill everyone they see and proctect their vip
Common knowledge by now
thats crazy😱
i got 50
I'm 2 minutes away from farting
that better be a lie bro
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this is so racist
the helipad is chairman's spawn right
Talking about the one at the top of the tower?
If it can't be cracked and accessed (which it shouldn't be) then imo pksf shouldn't be up there
correct
well, because he said he wants us up there when he joins
you can kill pksf that are killing you from up there..
if we're shooting you, you can shoot right back, and if we're moving to a position where you can't shoot us, we can't shoot you either
last time I tried harming dylan I ended up in a weird shield ball thing
well he never told us we can only use it when he's around, with the bunker which you referenced, it was clearly stated chairman doesn't want anyone there. We have access to it, its high ground, you can attack the PKSF that are attacking you from there.. i don't see the issue
its not even that overpowered, a simple sniper on TLS or cliffs can kill anyone up there
I tried shooting chadman but he his ass was too immaculate (the bullet bounced right off)
it's a good vantage point
it is now
Think of it this way, you guys can't access the secondary roof corridor, but there's no rule against shooting you from it, because you can shoot right back
raiders can't crack that either
so..?
If the chairman is online we're protecting him, not going on a shooting spree from helipad
we do, because its a vantage point we can access
no one said anything about not using it when he's not around
the argument that raiders can't crack it isn't valid, because we can still be shot when we're attacking you from up therer
why is this conversation still a thing
not a clue
he wishes for pksf to be there, and so we go there
won't be changing that any time soon
there's vantage points up there, there's cover, and a lift to get up to the top of the tower itself
seems like it had more intended use than just a helicopter animation
there's more than 1 area that's uncrackable that we use, like i said the roof corridor is uncrackable, but we still use it, and we can shoot fromit because you can shoot us too
why would we need to go up to protect him?
when i say the lift, i mean the lift on the helipad itself
the lift that automatically lowers when the helicopter animation begins
why would he add that if no one was intended to be on top of the tower
and that's not even mentioning the crates up there, and the rest of the cover
like that weird little arch
and yet he's never used it
if he wanted to go up on top of the tower, he would fly up there, not build himself a lift to slowly raise him up
he spawns on the helipad, which is not directly the top of the tower
the top of the tower is two sections, the helipad room with the lift and the controls and the elevator,
and then the actual top of the tower, with the crates and the arch
he spawns on the helipad in the lower section
you think im lying to you about how the helipad looks and works? 💀
there are two sections to the top of the tower, the lower section with the elevator, and the upper part that we shoot from
what makes you think that
yeah
doesn't mean any AEGIS can go there
cracking as aegis is bannable
not legally, and so it doesn't count
similarly to how any field agent has a level 2, which can access any door in the ARD sector besides the labs
doesn't mean field agents are allowed into the ARD sector
same goes for the prison
yes... we're talking about whether they're allowed to or not
the fact that they can doesn't make a difference to whether something is classified
and while it isn't classified, i don't see your point
sure
and?
no, that's not true at all
and that's breaking a classification, not removing the fact that something is classified
a breaking of a rule doesn't decide whether the rule exists or not 💀 what are you even trying to say
and it would continue to be a breach of classified info, as the area would be classified
something being accessible doesn't make it not classified
because it can't be entered without breaking rules...
calm down ladies
doesn't mean the rules don't exist
if you break a rule, the rule still exists
yes they do, as they then receive a punishment for the rule they broke, as would anyone else for breaking a rule
why would it matter if they care about it 💀
we aren't arguing about whether they would care about it
you're trying to argue the "point" that rules just don't exist if it's possible to break them?
we're up there due to the chairman wanting us to be up there
there will be no changing that
this entire argument is useless 💀
💀
never said we couldn't, and he gave us the tools to do so
and officer+ aren't allowed to be up there by area restriction rules
PKSF, on the other hand, are
never said that specifically 💀
let me find what he said exactly 1 sec
But PKSF would only shot if you were trying to shot him or other PKSF or if you're on KOS would they not?
he's never really spoken about exactly when we can and can't be there, besides giving us suggestions on what the formation should look like
as opposed to cases like the bunker, where he's specified no one can go there unless he says so
hell nah, this is still going on?
our point is chairman is generally very clear when he doesn't want someone in a certain area
theres really no point in changing this
besides making things easier for raiders
which has been the theme of recent updates
yes 👏 said it better than me lmao
u guys should be asking for the sedation room to be crackable then too, if your argument is that you should be able to go anywhere that aegis can
he doesn't ask us to protect him, we go automatically
but you want the entire facility to be crackable no?
that's the point you were pushing before
chairman knows how PKSF operates
we follow him anywhere and everywhere, except for locations he specifically says not to enter
such as his bunker
i think we've gone over why it's not actually as broken as you think it is multiple times
so? he doesn't make that decision
and, as was said earlier, his rank doesn't automatically mean he's correct
not to the 34 people reacting with no, compared to the 5 reacting with yes
he didn't ask us to go anywhere, he suggested a change to the formation itself, but there were no other requests about the helipad
@winter heart you are just repeating the same thing over and over again
i think the opinions of the community matter to the argument very much, actually 😬
yeah
that's what the voting is for, whoever passes/denies the suggestion takes into account the responses from the community
otherwise there wouldn't be voting
it'd be useless
yeah, i know coded is working on our level 4 card, and i know coded is planning to work on the pksf infection
oh and the "make vault raidable" one too
neither of them have been added yet, they're being worked on
it's been added, though, im pretty sure
city is a whole different situation
not really
must've been a really old suggestion then
what about the volcano
No I'm pretty sure the city was always planned, everything points to people passing through the border to either enlist or access the city
also how does a keycard switch and a virus compare to the city in terms of development effort whatsoever
like in what world does that make any sense 😭
when someone offers a viable counter to camping roofs with a 5ss that doesn’t involve helipad
I’ll hear you out
ur on to something here
nuke the roof with bombs
doesn’t the border have a nuke
yes, meltdown
you become the bomb
alr
No he doesn’t unless it was changed
Only when he first joins the game
But if he dies he doesn’t respawn there
I’ve never been seen the chairman die so I’m not entirely sure but no I don’t believe so
@winter heart he does not respawn in bunker
I would bring this up but seeing as people complain over a helipad..💀
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I love the idea of stuffing aegis personnel in a vtol and airdroppjng them onto the roof but i don't think that's too fair
Allow strapping of explosive ordaments to aegis personnel, they can easily clear roof.
No mercy, but for emergencies.
That’s against TOS that’s suicide bombing 💀
And the game is still alive even though it exists 💀
thats not what i meant 💀
Well you can bomb other people so as long as it is strapped to someone else

put bombs on people who are not O+ and strap one on them and drop them on raiders
Noah_jkl makes you guys explode
yeah i realized that halfway through my argument lol
yeah but we are robots so it’s allowed
call it a mechanical failure
no
no
no
i think its fair
and it is
yeah ok then let me suggest: dont allow raiders to camp elevators/coolant
same thing
thats because you guys camp too you have so many advantages and want to restrict PKSF going to x Place
(s)
cool
we have divisional rules and we follow them
if we can go there we would
you guys have so many advantages and you are complaining because you cant go to the helipad but pksf can? mate we can go there and will to kill you and raiders
36 downvotes
lol
@scarlet arrow can u tell me who allowed us again to go there
to kill raiders
what helipad do you mean xzzz?
where chairman spawns
lol no
it has a shit amount fo recoil
oh ok i dunno about that one
its damage is good
he is complaining about pksf going up there and sniping raiders camping roof
k
i only use the f13 and rem
oh i know what you mean by ontop now
best combo ong
i mean like just dont let them get the fully top...
@winter heart
i have a solution
so basically, pull out your weapon and click their head
and they die
🤔
just inject fly exploits

dude dews are items that ruin this game
but we still should be allowed to go there
4 head shots with 4hm and a pksf is gone
LOL
dude ur the one that spent 20k robux on this game and is complaining about not restricting pksf enough
lol no
dude
🐈
rip
hi son
you did my jmdf thing!
I rember!
am proud of u too 🫡
facts
I do like pksf as well, but mdf still better
@sour snow son!
father!!
yea
lmao
i remember some other pksf hicom that were uh
yeah…
i ratio this entire channel
What
Aughh newgen people frrr
I think I got a stroke reading this...
I spent half an hour watching the whole conversation
you could've spent half an hour making 50% of hourly minimum wage at a mcdonalds
it last for days lol
For me, I don’t want anymore changes to the game because it changed a lot already. Cliffs and RDM changes, ore run route changes (just longer lol)
By that logic AIA wing isnt classified either?
So youre saying AIA wing isnt classified?
I mean this is really off topic but I just saw how stupid your whole point in that argument was
Is it or is it not?
Oh so you could post a video of it here?
Not if its a medal clip
Exactly
Because its classified
doesn't mean it's not classified
the classification of something is a rule, rules do not stop existing once they've been broken
does that mean the rule has stopped existing?
so it's still classified
that's... how rules work
they're there to give a "hey please don't do this" and then some people do it anyway
rules working how rules work doesn't negate the classification of something
i don't even know the AIA wing's rules on classification so let's use a different example
my division's guidelines are extremely classified
any one of my members could leak them everywhere right now, and there would be nothing PHYSICALLY stopping them
does that mean they're not classified?
no... they are
the classifications are rules, and promises of punishment for breaking said rules
there are no rules in aegis that will physically always prevent someone from doing something, the rules are simply there to say "hey don't do this" and then dictate a punishment for doing so
why would that change how classified they are?
that might change how secret they're kept, but they're still classified, those are two different things
lots of non-PKSF know the PKSF guidelines because of past leaks, but they're still classified, and if any of them spoke about it they'd be punished due to the classification
because they'd have broken a rule... that rule being the classification of the documents
yeah, i know you're ex pksf
if you kept the documents and use them against us, yes, that's breaching the classifications of our documents
you're a non-PKSF
meaning you are breaching the classification if you kept them
same goes for anyone else who has seen a leak and kept the doc for their personal use
am i hearing that i need to start an investigation because of this feedback post xzz 😭
still leaking, those are classified too
right
wouldn't doubt it
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he spawns in a lower room in the tower that is accessible to nobody other than himself
the helipad is just a scene for realism
Not true 💀
then it clearly changed
the helicopter scene bs hasnt been in the game for that long
Yea the helipad got added with the entire thing and the argument is that pksf shouldn’t be allowed to sit on top and essentially retake the roof when raiders hold it
idgaf bout this crap im talkin bout spawns
- Chill tf out your being toxic over nothing.
- He spawns on the helipad after the helicopter lands
being toxic is fun
that 94 guy hacked a ARD account and abused
oh my sweet baby jesus
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shiver me timbers, this post was about to preventing pksf from going onto roof, but i think it would be more fair to argue a way for raiders to more safely counter them other than standing on TLS. Or make it accessible. These are just my cents, and I am in no way an experienced raider. So any other input, as long as they're constructive, are welcome.
Would be abused so much for raiders that really can’t be implemented, pksf have strict rules in when you we are allowed to, by giving raiders access there is no way to enforce any types of rules for raiders
that is true, but is there a way we can counter pksf on such a vantage point without it being literally at a disadvantageus position far away from where we actually wanna be?
Not to mention you fellas can probably shoot the top of our heads at TLS
(Plus peeking in third person with no risk)
Both or only one party?
Ah yeah, someone suggested you could shoot from there, so I assumed it could work, but I figured fog would get in the way.
tower would be a good spot for STHD to snipe from
Thanks for your input tho, I don't really have any other ideas other than these but if anyone else does then they are free to come forward and present what they have.
Both
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It's never gonna happen stop arguing
apparently anything anyone says nowadays is toxic
everyone mad sensitive
real
ur pfp reminds me of an old raider
You legit said idgaf and saying this is bs could’ve been little nicer
ur homie came out me wit the skull emojis and shi so
nice is besides the point im not gonna sugar coat yall
drop addy rn
5 walnut street
we takin this to anotha level
oH nO i leaked a random address that prolly belongs to a retired war verteran in a random state in the us whatever shall i do
the definition of joke nowadays has to be legally changed from fruity sakes
nah bonzai
Goofy guy bro
This has to be the second longest suggestion in this forum so far
fr
@unreal night
One and only verbal warning, please keep it normal.
Once again only reason why one should react is to give feedback not to just go ahead and shit around.
people be complaining about f13 being op and ruining the game while 5ss and 4hm exist 😭
Fr
dude i swear
It’s the shield argument all over again here
nerf p226 makes the game not fun
they have like every gamepass almost ingame and still complain about pksf having a shield/going onto the helipad
Fr
they forget aegis is a million dollar company that equips its soldiers with the best equipment
And it’s not hard to kill US

