Level 4 cards being able to open locked doors

[quiet socket]

I think it would be a good idea for SC to be allowed to lock the main corridor down, and give SC a keycard to override it for divisional personnel. This would really help us ensuring personnel actually went to the roof instead of going inside of the facility 25 times. If there's lack of SC personnel in-game, we cannot maintain all duties during a lockdown, especially not standing at the main corridor on your own while the site is being raided. Apart from just that door, we could let divisionals into specific areas if they're locked down.

[quiet socket]

Issue that makes it impossible. You will lock any chance of raiders actually doing anything thus ruining lockdown further.

[plain fable]

I mean, they could just use the other elevator so :shrug_cadet_aegis:

[wet oxide]

there also the issue of how the lockdown works

you cant close the doors

[quiet socket]

Which elevator because the processing tower one is impossible to get in due to a raider force field.

[plain fable]

Raider force field?

[quiet socket]

^

[plain fable]

Could you re-phrase that, I don’t exactly understand.

[quiet socket]

There is a force field that prevents raiders from going through tower processor elevator. You can't see it as a Aegis personnel

But its basically a red glass for wastelanders

[plain fable]

Ah

[quiet socket]

Never noticed that in my entire life

I've seen plenty of raiders come out of the processing catwalk

[plain fable]

idk then

maybe u could like make the gate crackable

but for AEGIS PERSONNEL you cannot open it

[latent glade]

raiders..?

[quiet socket]

Or make the main corridor door standard just SC only during lockdown, but allowing wastelanders to crack it

[latent glade]

raiders need to be able to raid

[plain fable]

yeah

[quiet socket]

Or a massive tesla gate killing any initiates getting inside UwU

nah jk jk

[plain fable]

like the one in aegis only room

but instead of scanning

[quiet socket]

just shocking anyone who isn't allowed.

except for raiders

[latent glade]

replace SC with tesla coils, anybody who goes near us just keels over and goes into cardiac arrest

[quiet socket]

Lmfao

[plain fable]

lol

[quiet socket]

I mean it would work

[wet oxide]

defeats the purpose of lockdown

[quiet socket]

This whole post defeats lockdown

Its meant to stop raiders

They can still enter its harder

By locking main corridor you just cannot raid anymore

[wet oxide]

also lockdown doors cant be opened or closed at all

it's perms arent just changed to sc

[quiet socket]

True

[shrewd field]

i think it'd be cool for sc card to override lockdown doors

since they are the ones with complete site power

[novel aurora]

please no

[inner pewter]

would be abused

[latent glade]

it wouldn't be abused, but i still don't think its a good idea

seeing as it would completely stop raiders from being able to get in the facility during lockdown

[oblique vapor]

lockdown means lockdown no one in no one out keep it fair

also thats like 2 second best door for raider to go through when lockdown happens

[shrewd field]

by who? sc? are you fr?

[shrewd field]

oh yea dont lock the main doors

but still allow sc card to override

maybe even all L4 cards

[inner pewter]

There have been previous sc who have abused so it is entirely possible

But it's still not a good idea

[shrewd field]

there will always be abusers

whats stopping sc from kicking everyone

[inner pewter]

Legit just defeats the purpose of lockdown

[shrewd field]

it doesnt

raiders cant enter

they wont have the card

[inner pewter]

Kind of the point

It just kills raiding

[shrewd field]

ok well lockdown aint being removed so cry about it

[inner pewter]

I don't want lockdown removed

I just want it to have the same effect for everyone

[shrewd field]

well everyone with a L4 card needs to get around during lockdown

[inner pewter]

Sc go to tower

[shrewd field]

eg getting to coolant to prevent meltdown

[inner pewter]

And unlock certain doors

[quiet socket]

It literally would not. SC is very strict. You could say this about mod and admin too "wOuLd bE aBuSeD"

[quiet socket]

Yeah if this idea doesn't work then that would still be a good idea

[inner pewter]

All this does is kill raiding

[shrewd field]

LITERALLY HOW

backup ur point

i think it should apply for all L4 cards since ARD, SC and UC+ should all be able to bypass lockdown. they would simply scan their card in the door and it would open and close after 3 seconds automatically or theyd just shut it themselves and it would remain in lockdown

Level 4 cards being able to open locked doors

[stiff tapir]

i think on hicom should have it and not sc

[jolly marsh]

mans suggestion was so ass it got changed 💀

still a no

[jolly marsh]

if this was a thing why not just have all the doors do it all the time

just wouldnt exist in this game

[quiet socket]

I feel like level 4 keycards should be able to bypass lockdown, but locking down the main corridor I get it’s hard when your the only sc on to keep all personnel on the roof, but how will the raiders raid? They still should be able to raid during lockdown if they can’t it would just be a endless cycle of raiders raiding lockdown happens they stop raiding incursion happens and they go back to raiding. The FA door does have a shield preventing wastelanders from passing thru.

[jolly marsh]

plus my other two points still stand

one

on the incredibly small chance they forget a door

lockdown practically becomes useless

and two, if they straight up just die when opening a door

like its just open during lockdown now

lockdown is so both sides do not get in or out

[shrewd field]

because then it'd be impossible for raiders to move around smh

[shrewd field]

facts

[jolly marsh]

yeah im saying it wouldnt make sense to have this door closing technology available and not using it at all times

because aegis needs to close doors behind them normally

it just throws off the balance of the gam

[jolly marsh]

so why would they need to go into locked down areas in the first place

personnel stuck there would just reset i mean theres nothing for them to do

[shrewd field]

no bruh

ard need to prevent meltdown

they cant do that if shit is locked down

[jolly marsh]

so then dont lock labs???

[shrewd field]

same with sc going to tower

[shrewd field]

then that defeats the point of lockdown

[jolly marsh]

not tryna tell sc how to do they job or anything

but what about securing coolant and labs first and then locking it down

whilst keeping tower posts closed

😳

[shrewd field]

i said either that or they just shut it themselves

only reason i thought they could shut automatically is bc the doors are in lockdown

but my main point is L4 cards opening locked doors

[shrewd field]

securing those places is hard for them ngl

all im saying is that ard shouldnt be prevented from going to reactor even if its locked

same with sc in tower

instead of sc tping up there like some sort of magic

[jolly marsh]

yeah

[quiet socket]

I would say something

But I don’t think I can.

[jolly marsh]

yknow

now that my brain is functional again

this is a pretty good suggestion

[shrewd field]

YEA IT IS SMH

[shrewd field]

feel free

to speak

[quiet socket]

This isnt a bad idea but i think its just pointless

[quiet socket]

it wont happen

since it would require re scripting the entire door system

[wanton pier]

Nice they want more advantages

[inner pewter]

Anyone with a card can bypass lockdown while the cracker cant

What would happen is SC would start locking down everything and just hard prevent any raiders from getting anywhere

[wanton pier]

"how to kill raiding 101"

It's already bad as it is all of the ware being locked mind u which is a GLITCH

[shrewd field]

how is it pointless? have you even bothered considering anything

[shrewd field]

no?

only L4

[inner pewter]

My point

[shrewd field]

which makes sense since ITS LITERALLY THEIR OWN FACILITY

and the highest cards

[inner pewter]

It's lockdown

Everything is locked

For a reason

[shrewd field]

yea

to stop raiders

[inner pewter]

If l4 cards can just override then what's the point

[shrewd field]

not stop aegis

[shrewd field]

TO STOP RAIDERS

[wanton pier]

Man

[inner pewter]

If you can't stop raiders with lockdown

Then it's just a skill issue

[shrewd field]

wh

[inner pewter]

There isn't a need to hurt raiding more

[wanton pier]

Think about it lore wise too

[shrewd field]

but thats what it does

[quiet socket]

my brain

what has raiders

got to do

with l4 cards

[shrewd field]

it doesnt rlly

[wanton pier]

If aegis has technology to make doors only open with keycards and not work with crackers then they use it on every door

So it won't make sense

[inner pewter]

It has to do with lockdown overriding

[shrewd field]

thats a fair point actually

[quiet socket]

i just ask sc if they can unlock the tower if i need to get to it

[inner pewter]

This

It's already fine like this

[slim kelp]

^

[quiet socket]

i have some good points but I just don't see why they would need to open some of the lockdown doors since the only doors that a locked down are the JO+ tower doors

unless I just don't know and there are more

doors that are locked down

[inner pewter]

a lot of doors can be locked

but they rarely are

[quiet socket]

yeah

i mean like during lockdown what doors are locked

[shrewd field]

this

[shrewd field]

and this

have convinced me that this suggestion isnt needed

however it would still be a good idea in some ways

[wet oxide]

there are doors that can't be open with keycard crackers

[wanton pier]

yes, those doors are because we are literally not allowed there

sc room, lab 1 ard part, and confrence room and the secondary roof elevator

but making all doors not crackable is just unfair cus we are allowed there

[wet oxide]

i think the idea of the suggestion is that during lockdown, the affected doors become only openable with level 4 cards and cannot be crackable

basically serving the same purpose of before but with the added benefit that SC may open the doors when its needed

[quiet socket]

I was thinking he suggest that any level four keycard can bypass lockdown.

Like sc keycard can open up the prison elevator if it’s locked down.

[shrewd field]

obviously only ones they have clearance to

[quiet socket]

/\

[wet oxide]

isnt sc one of the few divs that have level 4

[shrewd field]

yea

SC, ARD and UC+

[wet oxide]

i thought ard has a special level 3 card

[shrewd field]

no thats level 4

oops

[quiet socket]

They got special level 4

Just like SC but for ARD

[loud root]

We have a modified L4 I believe

[civic ingot]

So can ARD also lock doors?

[loud root]

Unless you have an SC panel lying around, no

[quiet socket]

remember the time exploiters stole the SC panel?

[civic ingot]

Well I mean maybe I do.

[wet oxide]

the very classified sc panel™️

[quiet socket]

lol

[wanton pier]

Very classified indeed not like u were able to crack the door to it before

[hollow pendant]

please no

[wet oxide]

the only reason why you cant go in there is cause you shouldnt be allowed to mess with protocols

[wanton pier]

ik

but along time ago u where able t oenter with a cracker

[stiff tapir]

then why when an sc went into chairman room to kill me and i killed him and he left both doors wide open?

[wet oxide]

who was it

[stiff tapir]

idk

[alpine canopy]

shouldnt of even happened in the first place, pretty sure sc arent allowed to leave the doors open

[quiet socket]

SC doors?

@stiff tapir

if that was me i would exile them instantly

but i aint in no way to tell them what they wanna do

[stiff tapir]

No they opened the door expecting to win a 3v1 and he also left the panel open so one of my fellow raiders decided to open the gate and the sc could do nothing about it because it did not have admin yet

But we could have done way worse if I did not tell them to get out or it’s a perms ban

[alpine canopy]

LOL

[stiff tapir]

Then I closed the door like a W wasterlander 😎

[quiet socket]

When was this?

What was their user?

[stiff tapir]

User of what

[stiff tapir]

Like a week ago

[quiet socket]

ban

[inner pewter]

dont touch anything in sc room

since thats bannable

even going in sc room while not being sc is bannable