#balance 5ss
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you donāt know that?
New gun system?
yes
didnt the last gun system revamp made the 5ss better
So is that buffs and nerfs to guns or will combat change overall
is it coming this decade
As in how it works
or the next
Most balanced gun Iāve seen is Dew 3c out of all the dew weapons
I donāt know when itās coming
probably when city comes out then
the city update
I hope they add more uses for batteries
been teased about for like 3+ years
theres already uses for it
Outside th border
Iām not sure whether the gun system will come with the faction update or what but
I know thereās one coming
guest
we've also been told a city is coming out
not really classified info
ok but thatās an entire city my friend
This is a new gun system
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Ok but not nearly as big as a whole interactable city with
it could be bigger than the city
I hope the city isnāt like the city in jailbreak when it first released
Bunch of bricks with textures
It will have to be that way tho to not effect performance much
but assuming the new gun system is meant to stay when the city comes out
im guessing it would be more aligned to fit with the city
and they would have to add something to make raiding harder
otherwise its gonna end up looking like detroit
I mean itās a gun system, we arenāt focusing on the city theres bigger fixes to make
Well I say we, I aināt doing anything
But the developers
all I can say is when the new gun system drops (hopefully with factions) all guns will be balanced
i dont know how they can balance the 5ss
how bad was the recoil
youād be facing the ceiling when shooting one bullet
to make the 5ss seem balance
3C > 4HM > 5SS > 1S > 2R š„±š„±š„±
4HM is good
how can it compete with one shot weapons
1S is better than 4HM
Itās just a better overall weapon
4HM is better
I own both and 4HM is just better
But like 3C
If you get your headshots
Itās the best armour shredding gun in the game
wait scrutinized final question
Where is your opinion if you banned from the discord
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scruti isnt here anymore
rare Roblox_Master75324 W
more like common
yk aegis hasnt always been my top interest i stopped playing dod for like 4 months at one point
ye 
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If you have good aim 1s better
yes
#global
Remember that this suggestion is only to help aegis because they need every advantage in order to kill one raider
Iām a raider myself and have to deal with aegis that have 5ss
Itās annoying man
Iāll be in a big kill streak then some dude who has no skill comes and kills me in one go even after missing 1998 shots
Or if itās a wastelander thatās rkāing
It will effect both AEGIS and Wastelanders so you can't say this is to only help AEGIS.
Compared to other DEW users i've seen without 5SS they actually have some skill like 1S users for an example.
my bad it's a
15%:85% ratio
so barely anything helps wastelanders and everything of it helps aegis
Explain to me how this suggestion helps everything for AEGIS and barely anything for Wastelanders? Are you saying if a person suggests to nerf a DEW weapon it mostly just helps AEGIS and not Wastelanders? Let me point out the fact that a Wastelander here suggested to nerf DEW-1S and you didn't say anything about it helping AEGIS more than Wastelanders.
roblox master lowkey got no one supporting him
look balance 5ss by adding the recoil back and every lil dumb operative with 5ss will start to cry bcuz they could not hit their shots before the recoil and imagine now
takes skill to control old 5ss recoil
just bring old 5ss back
ez solution
because every aegis are fucking bums
I am going to give you a verbal warning to start being respectful or atleast if you are not respectful, stop disrepsecting, people can suggest stuff to be changed, they have that permission, you are in no position to silence people's opinions. Next time you will be facing a punishment.
And for your information, the amount of complains you have against this suggestion is not going to affect it being implented or not. So stop being disrespectful
too bad i dont care
Surely you dont care by crying about a suggestion.
lol
You are by being toxic as hell being and being disrespectful to people at this point you aren't even giving out your own opinion or giving answers/feedback on peoples comments or this suggestion.
Aegis isnt banned from owning the 5ss lol
quits arent u the ard who mains 5ss
or broad
i forgot
litterly every ard who has 5ss mains it
no ski;l
just click
Oh yeah the 2 or 3 ARD who own it ok
Oh yes every one of the 70 people in ARD owns it
damn there is 70 of yall
I barely see a ARD with it
Yeah
Half our division is on IN lol
get active ngl
damnnn
ok either way ard if they own 5ss that is all they use
Yea but if a raider owns a 5ss then thatās what they will always use in the scenarios ARDs who have it use it
i dont use mine unless im at roof or fighting someone with 5ss
or camping elevators
cuz coolio
but i see
some ppl
main it
that is crazy to me
Yeah the times I see ARD use it are in coolant and in CQC in wasteland
I do see ARD with gamepasses but usually not 5SS
ard use it every where
even at bins lol
they use it on ppl who dont click bin
I mean it is satisfying
i just want to see recoil back
Good those guys who donāt listen to āclick a bin or leave. 5 seconds to complyā deserve it
and see how well they all do
Will see
@hybrid anvil nova broad quo are the 5ss brothers
its sad to see 5ss users just main 5ss thats all even sniping
ik bruh
I donāt mind fighting 5ss raiders
i see them shoot at me from the top of caves with 5ss and i just sit there laughing
like what are you gonna hit bro
cuz most of them dont go tryhard with 5ss
like eggis
rare moments
Iāve never seen him use another gun
??? i said it mostly helps aegis out
š¤¦
the more i read this suggestion feedback, the more i understand why global was removed
More like why it was never added in the first place.
And how does it exactly mostly help AEGIS out if it's going to affect both Wastelanders and AEGIS.
W comment
theres literally 3 lol
i dont wanna get the 5ss
but broad got it cuz he got a clothing group which got him a shit ton of r$
no cuz hes bad
okay
no.
you
do not have any right
for toxicity
if you have
a role
"100k+"
i can killed u with 3c alone before
i am not saying you are bad or good
i am saying
you should not get a say in skill based things
??????
they should revert 5ss to the oldest
that recoil breaks ur neck
that actually takes skills to use and I find no problem using it
the 5ss state now is kinda mid tbh, slow to equip, it shoots so slow that even p226 is faster then it
quite a skill issue if u died to it
if they are really gonna nerf it that hard then should've gotten a thing where some 5ss users can get a refund
refunds are impossible on roblox in the first place
(not gonna pay 13k robux for some doo doo gun like this)
if u bought 5ss and it gets nerfed hella hard you should get smt in return
or that
cant be robux back
smth special tho
uhh
imagine u get scraps for return
a special item that gives X amount of armor
or X amount of health
and stacks with other items?
that could work depending on what it is
thats what ive been saying since the release but goofy ah devs dont listen to what the people want
wee
I say as a 5ss user it is a tad bit OP, though, not a lot for the price it's at.
A little nerf like increasing reload time a bit would work imo.
Tad bit OP?
Lmao
Itās over 100 bucks for that, wdym ānot a lot for price itād atā
just add recoil
^
re-add old recoil it had
marshal handpick me for aia please
and nerf will happen
trust
I donāt even own a 5ss but I disagree with this suggestion
Half the 5ss users donāt even have skill
And even if you get the slightest advantage, youāll be able to overpower them with a 3C
As long as you do everything right
a 3c can oneclip titanium turkey users
Fr itās so underrated
Itās by far my favourite gun in the game
Itās real effective for shredding through armour
im ass so i hit 4 out of 20 shots
Well exactly thatās why you agree with it because you donāt own and donāt know how it actually works
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yāall straight up donāt know how broken it is
he disagrees
oh
I said I disagree
bobo momento
tbh I havenāt been keeping up with this chat
Game is already balanced
After like 3k messages thought it died
apparently not
anyway
I mean is it unfair for f2p, yes
But with all the dews already in the game, itās balanced enough
Ok fair point
An operative wouldnāt stand a chance against a 5ss raider
Skill or not
But then again
It shouldnāt be nerfed
I mean a 4k gun can just literally murder anyone with a 5ss in one hit
if u can aim
Iād say thatās fair enough
Considering 5ss can do the same
Iām not a big fan of the 1s
nor am I
I like the 3C and 4HM
X33 is 7k and 2x worse
Literally the firework is better than x33
1s should be some sort of charge gun imo
Like u hold down left click
For 2-3 seconds
And it fully charges to 500 damage
But if u just click it only does I dunno 90 like the 5ss
And if u got armour obviously less
Thatās a ok suggestion because it will allow different styles of using 1s
Tbh I suggested it in the qa server
nobody likes it because they all spam the 1s
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1S is literally more annoying than 5SS
But ofc no one complains abt it because every operative in the game spams it
I know
Thatās literally what I said
But they all say ānah 5ss worse tbhā
Ok but can I 5ss you from across the map
Can you 1s me from across the map?
5ss is shit if you donāt use itās properties to ur advantage
1s is op no matter what, u just need to click
ye
5SS isnāt really good for anything but close combat
And you could overpower a 5ss user just by having the high ground
74 reactions surely this has to be approved
it wonāt be anyway
with a new gun system coming theyāll be changing guns regardless
and I hope to god coded or dylan have some sense not to complete fuck up a 13k gun
And then just leave a 4k gun to one hit everything
Probably wonāt
My suggestion to add burgers in the wasteland got 150 upvotes and 1 downvote but š„²
devs want to starve wastelanders š¤
LOL
Yeah I'd like it if the old recoil of the 5ss was back, would actually take a bit of skill.
No
no
never will it be approved
the whole point of this game is spend more robux win more
I barely use 5ss anyway
only for reactor
Stop
Yes
You are in no position to give verbal warnings!
No
The only thing that needs to be balanced is you!
You need to balance your weight!
go on a diet!
who are you
Your step dad
everyone knows here you're my step sister
and im ur brother
can't promise
No it's not
and if it was then not many people wouldn't be playing this game
re-add old recoil but make it shoot faster
so u can still spam it if u have the skill to
instead of shoot
recover ur recoil
bru
that seems fair
the shotgun can easily one shot
maybe like 1.5 seconds
titanium user
u spraying them with ur 5ss + assumed other guns
with 500 dollars worth of gamepass
i dont see that many divisionless operatives with 1s
this is why old dod was fun
is because 1 raider with all gamepass can go against entire aegis
and aegis would be like
"we need backup!!!"
now
"lets balance stuffs so we can kill them with 2 people easily!!"
and imo theres also people in aegis that has lots of gamepass
not with the old recoils and stuffs
the old dews were op
but still require skill
like old 4hm is literally a minigun if u can control
4hm now?
pfft
water gun
how much damage
i sprayed my 4hm on a operatives head for 2 second straight and he didnt even die
the problem is that it shoots too slow now
i think thats a skill issue
nobody who doesnt have a shit ton of robux would want to play dod if 4hm could easily wipe everybody
by skill do you mean having a IQ above room temperature
with the old 4hm u have to aim
if u wanna assume that
sure
and raiders today seem to still be able to easily raid the border
Thatās so true
no
actually
just revert it to the old 5ss
with a slow speed to equip(faster then now but still slow), u can spam left click, has that old massive recoil
but nerf its damage so it takes 2 shot to kill someone with titanium+heart (would still 1 shot a normal person duh u literally spend 13k robux for it)
basically the whole damage output would be lesser then a 1s shot
like if u have titanium + heart it would put ur hp at somewhere around
š dude yes it is
everybody here is self aware that they're playing a cash grab
u can still insta kill someone if u have the skill to control that recoil
but without skill u just shoot and die cause u cant aim
but it is a fun one
we know
š¤¦āāļø so you just told me this game isn't spend robux and win more then you just agreed with someone who said it
No
sansboy
with the old gun system where u can pull guns out instantly and shoot
No what I meant to say is a player shouldn't have spend money just to be able to win some kills.
dont you be making a 1000 word paragraph
people has proven u can beat gamepass user as f2p
sir thats the entire buisness model
well
of group games
not anymore
if you're a no life rcl clanner
you can solo the border
with a p226
if u cant aim then whats the point in nerfing op guns
if somebody who isnt a tryhard can easily 1v10 and win
theres a slight issue in balancing here
theres always that 1 operative on top of the caves
if you're some top tier clanner
who knows how to predict the person's mouse movement
you shoot while they're typing
you wont
I can't get past cave I always pull a weird aiming angle and die
thats common sense
they type after they shoot u
now that i think of it
i should be sending more operatives to the towers above the cave
those ones are useless
no
theyre not camping
have u not heard of this new post??
damn bruh
they jump off from the tower 2 seconds after nobody's looking
imagine if initiate+ were allowed to post at cliff during lockdown
they be like: oh imma go afk no raiders anyways
free kd
thats why i pick the dew users
they would probably just jump off the cliff at that point
you're gonna get rushed hard lmfao
they'll be like: man theres no raiders theres already 5 mdf/pksf/sthd with their 1s there anyways imma go afk
boom
and if they want to go afk, theres far better posts
also the feedback on this suggestion is just turning into #global at this point
lmfao
isnt he afk
is getting the 150 kill 0 death medal still possible
yes
do u just stand on roof and shoot every living thing u see
theres another way to get it
a more stupid one
and longer
do bin duties and shoot every person
"click a bin or leave, 5 second"
*proceed to shoot them at 3 second
tbh guns are balanced
as long as u have aim
i found this old pic
i killed him with premium pistol only
he had
3c, 1s, and x33
he only used 3c and 1s
he missed 1s shot, reload, shoot 3c, missed 80% of his clip, shoot 1s, misses again, try to shoot with 3c again but dies
the only thing that made me survive is my titanium and heart
Lol
maybe because you got an op spot in caves š
position > weapons
true
thats how most of the operatives kills u
just pops out of nowhere when ur halfway up the caves and has like no cover
im not that low for a random operative to kill me
maybe
or outnumber
5ss spammer on god
Tyon only uses 5ss š
people complain about 5ss too much ngl
when u did not have x33
5ss
was the only gun u used
you even had it in safety when you walked around bruh
no u were pksf
ive seen u the most
u were just on
'a bit ago
I mean it's the truth
just if devs would add recoil like all the people want
but no
they dont listen
kind of an L
we must cry for ever
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bro is complaining
yea he get it it's 13k
he get it so there should be no nerf instead it should be buffed cause the price of it
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*addicting
How is this thing still going on
Because 5SS is still a big issue
because 5ss sucks ass for its price
The issue with 5SS is that it hardly requires any skill to use.
yea so revert 5ss to the oldest 5ss
if u have skill u can spam
if u dont
ur neck is just gonna break and ur gonna die
^
^
because it is 13k robux
...
simply just go work and buy it
work art mcdonalds for a week then u can buy all the gamepasses
and become the average aegis
nobody wanna work at that mf grease dump
Then try working at KFC
same thing
Burger King?
why are you talking about jobs now...
Why not?
Because this suggestion is not about jobs...
exactly
I understand it costs a lot money but compared to other DEW weapons and most non-DEW weapons they actually required skill to use. DEW-1S and 4HM are two examples, if you have very good aim then DEW-1S will become the best weapon to use and 4HM will become better if you can land your headshots.
It doesn't
does not you just click ngl
yes but you still require to aim somewhere
before you had to actually aim since spread was tight now bullets just go everywhere
and you had to control recoil at the same time
true
now you just walk up to someone and start clicking
Ah yes aiming in the general direction and clicking requires much skill.
lol
then everyone complains
rng base weapon š±š±
Common chad W
no it dont
guys i got a great idea, how about we just delete the game š¤Æ
Agreed
agreed
good idea
nice
amazing idea
make it happen
we can all be saved
we can all be released from this prison
I love men
ok
yeah just remove the gun and give everyone that bought the gun their robux back
thats not possible
Today I raided a the facility and an aegis with a 5ss one shotted me at max health with titanium armor on in the facility
Thatās just bs
Was on a roll with kills then that one guy came and just one shots me
I get if itās a 1s but itās really stupid how he one shot me from a distance thatās too far to 1 shot Someone
bro just remove new elevators
thats literally the reason im leaving aegis
everything
But they cant remove it
they can
just don't update if the community doesn't want it
How did this turn from 5ss (garbage) into elevators
5SS does not need any buffs
it doesnāt need a nerf either
most 5ss users have skill issues anyway
so itās not hard to kill one
Fr I have one fat skill issue when using the 5ss
Why df am I aegis
Bull shit
Better
Not really
Itās really difficult wdym
been 1sād more than Iāve 5ssād tbh
Even a slight advantage can get you the win
Like high ground
No lol
new global
ripoff
na every pksf owns it
both
donate 5ss then plz
Pksf = skill issue
5ss needs nerf bullets
Huge cap
An even bigger cap
most pksf own it
I hardly see PKSF with 5SS
why complain about raiders using 5ss
when aegis has 5ss too
whoever made this thread prob is just
coping
I mean
coping so hard they can't even fight back
He made it after getting bopped by a 5ss 8 times, I was in the server with him
L
Chad has no idea how bad the spread is
yea
Itās the ONLY counter to PKSF with shield lmao
the spread is already bad
u have to be super close to kill someone
otherwise it'll leave them at like half health
Even then, it takes 2-3 shots to kill PKSF, which have become increasingly more active
Raiders already have it hard as it is
Why make everything harder because you canāt cope
with the old 5ss one bullet would always go where ur cursor is
now they just decide where to go
no aim just click
Aegis has everything, thereās plenty of Aegis that have 5ss, itās balanced as it is
You canāt aim with it lol
Itās hope and pray
old 5ss was
pure fun
yea
Chad canāt cope because heās cringe
yea Chad is actually doing something correct
āNerf PKSF shield because itās to OPā š¤
It sucks
we should buff it
I will go in game and prove it sucks
By showing the spread
Just donāt get close to the raider lmao
yea
ā1s needs to be nerfed, is to OP because itās a sniper that one shots and they shouldnāt do thatā š¤
Itās a shotgun, ofc itās gonna insta kill you doorknob
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the one we killed today or some1 different
Let me remind you that Chad made this because he was pissed he died to a 5ss a few times, no other reason
šæ
some different gut
guy
ardenez
he has a big point to be fair on him angry that he died
i would use 5ss if attacking a vip
since it clears them out instantly
Ehhhhh
PKSF are pretty damn good at protecting the vip
Those shields make me cry sometimes lol
i should stay quiet about that one you just said
i found this 3 month old clip
but yea
also shows how much of water gun 4hm is
Dude sometimes the 5ss doesnāt even register the shot
just look at the clip
So you stand there like an idiot as you try to get another pellet in before the 1s hits your forehead
happens with most guns now
i put a whole 4hm into this dudes head
and he was alive
Fr
and i was behind him
4hm is a sniper at long range thoš„¶
Been using it more
4hm = water gun
5ss = hello hitreg where????/spray???
some are
Yesterday the dudes guarding I think kp? where quick af
Gotta hand it to them
lol they cuffed kp to raiders on roof
LOL
i atacked them from the corridor on roof
and they cuffed him to the raiders on the roof
Fr tho, 5ss sometimes doesnāt even register a headshot at point blank, like every pellet missed themš
idk i feel like 5ss is fine rn
but i really like the old 5ss
it was just fun
it requires like 0 effort now lol
If anything it should be balanced have a smaller spread, or just donāt do anything to it now
yup just click
All in all, Chad needs to learn to cope
if you are just genuinely super mad about it just go work at mcdonalds or kfc for a week and you will be able to buy it
not even a week like 3 days
Lol
but it is annoying that 90% of raiders and aegis use it
It can only be used in certain choke points in the game tho
In engineering it canāt be used tho, which is a long ass hallway
Skill issue.
Maybe when entering tower 1-2 itās useful but other than that, you use different guns the entire way past that unless you encounter someone at processing. It shouldnāt be nerfed, it has very little usage out in the wasteland or on roof if youāre not heading towards elevator. Stay away from those points and you wonāt die to it
Yall act like the 1S isn't as bad
Itās not even bad, 5ss and 1s need to be left alone
Lol
I love hitting PKSF in the head with 1s
Itās so satisfying
Itās like a reward
You can also survive a 5ss with your shield.
Fr
most of the time i dont
Iāll be rushed by an ARD with his revolver and he wonders why I crushed him in coolant with the 5ss
Go back up elevator
What part of, pellets and buckshot, do yall not understand?
well if ur holding coolant then obv u will use 5ss
None of it apparently
Also yall are divisionals, don't yall be camping at the bottom of the caves? So yall really shouldn't be saying jackshit.
Fr
And there be like more than 3 of yall down there.
Everyone else is
Not really. The gun itself costs 150 usd
i have to be respectful so yea
well they do
actually
ye not 90%
but still a lot of people have it
5SS doesn't require any skill use while you argue the fact that DEW-1S is also a powerful however it actually requires skill to use and it only has 1 ammo per shot and you need to wait 7 seconds for it to shot again.
But again, 5ss sucks ass at anything short of very close cqb
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Yall be acting like 5ss don't require you to aim, spoiler alert: ||5ss requires you to aim||
DOES NOT
if you fire the 5ss it moves your camera to like the bottom of your screen
RUN AWAY from the dude with 5ss for gods suck
caaps
Or idk, just snipe him?
Or that
People that complain about 5ss donāt own it, meaning theyāre going to be biased
also you cant chat shit about it if you dont own it
Iād be ok with someone complaining about it if they own it
Like for real it's a shotgun, don't expect to rush a shotgun user and get killed in 1 or 2 shots.
It just needs a tighter spread
^
@wary onyx do you own 5ss?
Like holy shit I keep dieing cause of how bad the spread is.
If not, point proven
Mother fuckers be having 10 hp after 1 shot
My point proven
LOL
Average range youāll be fighting someone from btw
mhm
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and at least 1 or none will hit
So itās a lucky shot if you do
i need somewhere better to show this
@wary onyx pinging you because you need to see this
5ss should have a fixed pattern spread like the panic attack from Team Fortress 2. @tawny mirage @hybrid anvil
Yes
you purposely have to miss to hit 5ss shots because they go everywhere but where u are aiming
And like the panic attack each successful shot will increase the spread
Or to make it more balance each shot increases the spread
https://prnt.sc/qdxQ4_YK10hO this maybe makes more sense
Reloading resets it.
Then theyd want a longer reload timeš
they wouldnt be complaining if they owned it
Bruh? We got shells, how the fuck can you reload shells even slower?
Idfk at this point man
None of these people live in the US
They donāt want a shotgun is
Know*
Lmao Iām exaggerating
I bet they're from Germany still whining about shotguns.
But ye, people would complain about a longer reload time
you can see that the spread
like theres a chance its tight
and theres a chaNCE It isnt
and that sounded hella weird
@wary onyx Oi bozo look up.
@hybrid anvil literally killed a full on 5ss raider
even tho i didnt see that one
we killed another one both together
just go rcl for a week and you will be better
This post should be taken down
Itās goofy and has been proven wrong each time by a 5ss owner
sometimes i dont like it but most of these responses are just a bit dumb
go on kill some good raiders with 5ss, then comment this
i love u had sheild and armor
Your shield does
You also have titanium donāt you?
The armor will sometimes help if youāre at a greater distance, as 5ss sucks at that range and damage taken is usually lower. Iāve noticed that my armor will have gone down around 105 armor points once Iāve been hit by a 5ss in cqc
Sometimes itāll take 2-3 shots to kill a PKSF with 5ss, with and without titanium, and thatās cqc in coolant
Iām sure it all relies on if 2 or more pellets hit
https://gyazo.com/21a7e78e187f4c1ec579f16cd6236488 guys i think this discussion has gone on long enough
fr
Fr
They should just add the old recoil
Eh we need to hit 3000 before it ends
Lol it def has
im pretty sure its mostly been the same points talked about over and over
Fr 5ss needs anything but a nerf
1S is just as bad but you never see anyone complaining abt it
cause half of aegis uses it
yeah pretty sure it is
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