Hacker Reporting Thread

[astral cairn]

I reported 3 last night, including a crasher lol. People just want to get cooked.

[manic dune]

invalid star drop crash, very common

[misty sandal]

Also someone is spoofing right?

[candid siren]

editing messages or clarifying in a new message existing

[misty sandal]

to avoid the ban

[manic dune]

wdym

[misty sandal]

PID spoofing

I heard someone was doing that

[manic dune]

i might consider adding the anti spoof method in the future

[hybrid yew]

Alr np

[manic dune]

im tired of skids getting away with being a noob at the game

[misty sandal]

and what the anti spoof method does

[manic dune]

it gets the real pid no matter what

[proven fossil]

probably trace the hardware address

[misty sandal]

Can they reverse this too?

[proven fossil]

no

[misty sandal]

if it gets open sourced

[manic dune]

they can't break it or else u can't connect online

[proven fossil]

u would have to do a hard mod

[manic dune]

i tested it :P gonna do more digging with it tho & make 100% sure

[misty sandal]

Release it once you know it doesnt make more issues

[misty sandal]

The PID is linked to your current 3DS "session"

You can change it after formatting it

[manic dune]

the only issue coming with it is the fact it has more accessible data that is sensitive.

[proven fossil]

u can change that with a hard mod

[manic dune]

well it won't matter. if u change ur pid on the system (by getting a new friend code) you still connect with it & pretendo staff will immediately know which console it's linked to

[proven fossil]

oh yeah

that makes more sense

[misty sandal]

Pretty sure the staff knows your serial code

[manic dune]

people spoofed the playerdata pid, which can be changed & sent in different ways in lobbies.

but this one can't be spoofed, as it's mandatory to even be online etc

[misty sandal]

That means

Once you cheat

you are screwed

[manic dune]

yes

and if someone reports u, that is

[misty sandal]

actually there is one fix

Don't do whatever you did to get banned

that's the fix

[manic dune]

Yeah. it'll stop all those little skids watching this channel & using spoofers too

[mossy ingot]

thats not a fix XD

[misty sandal]

Yes just stop doing what gets you banned

[candid siren]

or just..... dont cheat

[misty sandal]

That's the same thing xd

[mossy ingot]

i mean u will get banned anyway

[manic dune]

but we'll see if ill add it or not. im tempted each time when i see someone spoof their pid

[misty sandal]

Yeah just time travel in the past

[dull nimbus]

please do

prayge

[candid siren]

well if u stop doing whatever u did to get banned that means u were already banned so

[mossy ingot]

is that possible ? XD

[candid siren]

[misty sandal]

That's why I love 022-2812

[sand cedar]

022-2812 (3DS/2DS)

Support code detected, press to expand information

[manic dune]

can't wait to make a PID display for Pokémon too lol, not sure what would be worth reporting but it'll be neat to have

[misty sandal]

Scammers

[astral cairn]

What hacks would they even use that for?

[manic dune]

crashers, battle hacks etc

[misty sandal]

For Pokémon you can report scammers trying to sell Pokémon

Hacked Pokémon are impossible

[manic dune]

u can bypass the battle anti cheat very easily, by changing the moveset or ability, even stats during a battle.

[misty sandal]

There are server side patches

[manic dune]

they won't matter here. it's p2p

[astral cairn]

Oh damn, I didn't think that was possible. I know about illegal moves and stats though.

[dull nimbus]

we use pkhex's legality checks.

[manic dune]

those won't help either

battle data is different from the Pokémon data in boxes etc

[misty sandal]

Like you are saying we can hack the mon during the battle?

[manic dune]

yes. we can change the move ID etc

[misty sandal]

Like 999 HP?

[manic dune]

and it only affects the current battle

yes

i made several codes like that

[astral cairn]

What the? I didn't know that was possible.

That's still terrifying.

[manic dune]

the ac only checks the current party u selected before the selection. which makes it easy

[manic dune]

yeah, hence i think i might make a pid display lol. one that is visible in the battle, without pausing

[misty sandal]

You should pay for beta testing

and test this

[manic dune]

i will when it's live

can't wait :P

[misty sandal]

gen 6 is live

you can pay

[manic dune]

i mean outside of beta

beta means they still work on stuff.

[misty sandal]

i would do it in beta so they patch it before public

[dull nimbus]

not much about cheating. but made a small texture edit to the blue falcon to gray..

SmolderSip

[misty sandal]

It's called testing for a reason

[manic dune]

well im not happy with the pay wall. so it'll have to wait.

[misty sandal]

Anyways in Pokémon it's worth reporting for sure scammers advertising accounts/shops to sell Pokémon

[manic dune]

yeah or other exploits im aware of

[misty sandal]

You know why I mentioning that?

One idiot is doing it on Gen 5

[manic dune]

oh ik all abt scammers etc, even the gts mess of advertisement. even p*dos on the PSS.

[misty sandal]

At least the GTS can't be hacked

[dull nimbus]

yeah voice chat being a thing in the PSS will never make it good to use.

[astral cairn]

🤢

[misty sandal]

right?

[manic dune]

we'll see, if it can, it'll get patched.

[manic dune]

yeah

[misty sandal]

What if we log the voice chat

[manic dune]

i still wanna make a ear r*pe code for gc

[misty sandal]

But it would be invasion of privacy

[dull nimbus]

that would be in peer to peer. not much we could do server-side

also a invasion of priavcy.

[high trench]

literally 1984

[manic dune]

trade, gc, battle is all p2p yeah

[misty sandal]

Welcome to year 1984

40 years in the past

[misty sandal]

Can you hack GTS or WTs?

[manic dune]

both

[misty sandal]

with the legality checks?

[manic dune]

form/egg bypass was a very wanted code back in the nintendo server days lol. but i never released it

[misty sandal]

the server will just block the mon

[misty sandal]

No one got it?

[manic dune]

some people figured out how

it's not hard tbh

i shared it with a few friends as well

[misty sandal]

I assuming you will make PID plugins for every game

[manic dune]

no, only mk7 & Pokémon. the only games i really hacked

[misty sandal]

Have you ever got banned on Nintendo Network

[manic dune]

i tried it with force, just so i could find an unban method. they never did it though

it was during the ban wave

[misty sandal]

I don't find cheating fun

unless you do it in private

[manic dune]

i find the technical aspects fun

i learn about the game

[misty sandal]

At least

You can help Pretendo

and prevent cheaters

[manic dune]

that's the goal, lol

[misty sandal]

with the plugins

[manic dune]

using my knowledge for a good cause

[misty sandal]

How do you think Bank will work on Pretendo

[dull nimbus]

its funny because after that nintendo just straight up stop doing thoses when the switch came out.

[misty sandal]

Will they put a legality check?

or relax and go with no check?

[dull nimbus]

at least they kept them going in WFC somewhere between 2013 to 2009

[manic dune]

yeah, priority switched over

[misty sandal]

If I get a v1 Switch I will mod it

[dull nimbus]

they did kept doing bans for splatoon though

[misty sandal]

and I go online with CFW to inject events

[dull nimbus]

and from what people say.. it seems to be manually moderated with match logs.

[manic dune]

bank has a good anti cheat imo, u can't send invalid IDs to later games anymore etc. but genned mons (even those event ones without ribbons) go through flawlessly. so they could just use the one they use for gen 6/7

[dull nimbus]

you can EASILY disable thoses with a RPX patch though. making you unbannable.

i actually had it like a week before it shutdown

worth the wait.

[misty sandal]

Bank anticheat still... sucks

English Mew from Emerald is illegal and it pass
Diamond Darkrai and Arceus pass....

[manic dune]

that's silly lol

[dull nimbus]

i only really used it to go as gender 2 in nintendo network. used it up until the server shutdown. the only octoling online post-shutdown too

i do think its a achivement for me.

SmolderSip

[manic dune]

I probably would enjoy modding splatoon but idk if I'll get a Wii u

[misty sandal]

The Wii U is not expensive as a 3DS

especially in Europe

I got a Wii U 32GB MK8 boxed for 90€

[dull nimbus]

...was it a hynix?

[misty sandal]

every accessory included + manuals

[misty sandal]

Toshiba

[dull nimbus]

phew.

[misty sandal]

It's a September 2014 Wii U

Hynix is on 2012/2013 models as I know

[jolly jetty]

How do I check that on my wii u

[dull nimbus]

https://github.com/GaryOderNichts/WiiUIdent/releases/tag/wiiuident-v1.1

[hybrid yew]

Hey, is this name legal?

[misty sandal]

Not worth a ban just for the name

Unless it's inappropriate

[hybrid yew]

I know I’m just asking

He hacking too. It’s just I didn’t catch a recording. I’ll get evidence at some point.

[misty sandal]

if they cheat get evidence yea

just the name is not bannable

they dont ban cheats that dont give unfair advantage

[hybrid yew]

I’m joining him right now

He’s in my opponent list

Got it

[hybrid yew]

@misty sandal I Got him

[bold barn]

Spectator mode doesn't show player names; are you sure these match?

[hybrid yew]

Yes

Same character and combo

And I joined his match

[bold barn]

Got it

@protofade

not in this Discord

[hybrid yew]

His name is legit the friends icon then DS

[dull nimbus]

likely the custom symbols hes using are different in MK7 than other games or in the tool

[hybrid yew]

Ok

Pid

[bold barn]

my 3DS/Wii U name contains custom symbols too. Of course they don't display.

[hybrid yew]

New guy

Let me get his pid

Here

[languid musk]

reminds me of michael mjd tbh

[bold barn]

Kinda surprising he hasn't featured Pretendo yet. Doesn't he have a 3DS?

[mossy ingot]

what the hell are ya watchin ? XD

[hybrid yew]

That my baby brother

[jolly jetty]

Dont mind the capcut thing at the end, my phone was being stupid and wasn't recording in the correct orientation. But anyways this person was using infitine stars and some other stuff. The recording cut off due to my phone running out of storage.

[misty sandal]

@ocean lichen looks like you will have fun today

there are a lot of cheaters to ban

[jolly jetty]

This is the 2nd one I found today

[misty sandal]

Keep going you will find more

unfortunately people love ruining the fun for everyone

[ocean lichen]

>:3

[jolly jetty]

Yeah I will keep going

[hybrid yew]

I was in the same game with that guy not too long ago

Like a couple hours ago

[hybrid yew]

Bro has a lot of built-up anger he needs to release on these hackers

[misty sandal]

Also I wonder what's going to happen to @tablgaming's 3DS

they claim they little brother is cheating on his 3DS

and it sounds true since they were chatting here when it happened

They are still getting a console ban correct?

[ocean lichen]

:D

[misty sandal]

Convo starts here

[ocean lichen]

ultimately, you're responsible for how your console is used

[misty sandal]

i agree completely

Still waiting for the ban appeals to open on the forums

Been 3 months now since NN shutdown people should be able to appeal Discord and PN rn

[hybrid yew]

Oh yeah, I also found out that if you switch over to the Nintendo servers then delete all of the pretendo files, including the IPS and then system transfer and then add them back. I didn’t lose my friends which I asked you about a little while back just in case you don’t remember.

Nor my online stats

My VR is still the same in MK7

which is weird because you said there’s nothing truly in the server to restore it

[misty sandal]

VR is on your savefile

That's why you can hack it

[hybrid yew]

Ok but friends is not

There’s nothing in the server to truly restore it

It’s just in the server

[misty sandal]

Friends are stored on your 3DS, just in two different environments

[ocean lichen]

it might be a case we'd consider, especially if there is solid evidence that someone else used it
generally tho, it's the same as if someone used your PS4/Xbox to cheat, or got VAC banned on your steam account: you're responsible for the security of your stuff

[misty sandal]

Agreed ^^

Well ofc sharing an account is way worse

[bold barn]

welp, my game's servers are down for 5 hours, so it's time to catch some hackers and shut them down!

[bold barn]

game is not related to Pretendo or Nintendo, by the way

of course, if I catch hackers I won't be able to share PNIDs because of my broken Friend List.

~~if only there was a fix for this... ping me if such a fix exists.

-# otherwise please don't ping me~~

WAIT WHAT!?

PLAYERS ARE SHOWING UP😄

Finally I can report Wii U hackers!!

[thick geyser]

Nice

[bold barn]

though I don't have my console hooked up to my capture device right now, and I'd rather not record my GamePad/TV screen with my phone

[ruby oar]

Mine is still not working I just tried but at least yours is

[bold barn]

now I've got to figure out what's going on with my Internet.

[ruby oar]

Oh no

[hybrid yew]

Found a hacker. I’m about to post that PID.

Got it

[dull nimbus]

...they are defenetly trying to hide themselfs 💀

[hybrid yew]

All in the days work sir

[hybrid yew]

Fr💀

💀

IM IN ANOTHER GAME WITH HER

BRO

Never mind she’s not in the game anymore

Probably got banned

[astral cairn]

I reported them last night with video evidence.

pid

[hybrid yew]

Yeah, she probably got instantly banned

What happens if you get reported twice?

[astral cairn]

We need these ban waves quick lol.

[hybrid yew]

Oh, ok

So that’s why when I joined her she wasn’t in the game anymore

Probably got banned

[misty sandal]

I think the ban wave is close

shutter seems to want to have fun banning all those cheaters

Wonder if Pretendo hires mods to ban consoles

[hybrid yew]

I would love to do that definitely

[misty sandal]

or maybe mods with the power to ban just from one game

if Pretendo can't trust for the entire network

I prefer the bans being still network wide so no one goes with the mentality of... "i dont care about this game so i can cheat and don't care if i get banned"

[astral cairn]

Exactly.

[thick geyser]

I got one on aliexpress pretty cheap and records 1080p 60fps smoothly, are you interested?

[hybrid yew]

Fr

[bold barn]

I have a capture device, I just didn't have it hooked up

besides that my Wii U has a big which prevents it from getting to any HDMI resolution above 480p. though Component still outputs up to 1080p

I have a Component to HDMI adapter, but it does not work well at all and causes frequent signal loss

[strange latch]

His name is silvergay

[feral osprey]

siIvagunner

[strange latch]

And no i don't have their pnid because i forgot to install the plugin 😭

[feral osprey]

pid*

[strange latch]

Oh

My bad

But yea

Everytime i wanna play there's always a hacker

These people will never learn

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[bold barn]

I'll try to get it. Hang on please.

[strange latch]

🙏 🙏

[bold barn]

FOUND THEM😈

Drat, forgot something.

[bold barn]

I'll grab the ID momentarily; I just forgot NTRStream

[strange latch]

Oh that's cool

[hybrid yew]

Check in opponents

[strange latch]

Uhmhmhu you got a download link?

[hybrid yew]

They still should be in there

[bold barn]

I didn't actually play a match with the hacker

[dull nimbus]

its like they're making fun of @astral cairn 💀

hes def reading here.

[bold barn]

mega oof.

[strange latch]

I was expecting a joke like this tbh

[bold barn]

Time to figure out who?

[strange latch]

Aight

[hybrid yew]

https://github.com/H4x0rSpooky/mk7-pid-grabber

Install it and then go to the opponents list and get their ID

[bold barn]

they disconnected, can't grab PID now!

[strange latch]

Thanks to both of you haha

[bold barn]

I'll keep trying.

[hybrid yew]

CHECK THE Opponents list

[bold barn]

They're on the list. But I still can't grab their ID

[astral cairn]

Ah yes, kids think their hot shit.

[bold barn]

Pressing A on Grab Principal ID does nothing.

[astral cairn]

Let me try to find the lobby.

[bold barn]

Just found out it got a new update

[hybrid yew]

@strange latch here’s how to make it work. I’m pretty sure you should know how to install a plug-in right but this one’s different. In the sd: luma/plugins. Make a folder with Mario kart sevens title ID depending on what region you are in then put the plugin in there

[astral cairn]

Gay isn't even an insult lol.

That also means happy.

So if anything, I'm had to help get rid of these scummy individuals.

[strange latch]

Ohhh thanks, i actually forgot how to setup the plugins so this helps me a lot 💀

[hybrid yew]

You’re on the latest version of Luma, right?

[strange latch]

Yea

[astral cairn]

Exactly.

[hybrid yew]

OK, do you have the European version of Mario kart or the American version?

[strange latch]

Pretty sure it's the european version

[hybrid yew]

OK, let me get the title ID for you

[strange latch]

Alright

[hybrid yew]

0004000000030700

create a folder with those numbers in the plugins folder, and then put the plugin in there

He has the European version

All he needs to do is just copy and paste

[astral cairn]

Since there's video proof, I'll just find their PID.

[hybrid yew]

Well, luckily enough we have something in this world called copy and paste

[bold barn]

Uploading PID shortly.

[strange latch]

Done

[hybrid yew]

Also @strange latch make sure plugin loader is enabled

[strange latch]

Oh yea

Hold up

[hybrid yew]

It’s in the Rosalina menu and I’m sure you know how to get there

[strange latch]

Wait which is the latest version of luma3ds?

[hybrid yew]

Press a on plugin loader and it will enable it

[hybrid yew]

13.1.2

[strange latch]

Oh

I have it but

I don't see the plugins part

[hybrid yew]

Bro, reinstall Luma

Go into the universal updater and reinstall it

[dull nimbus]

that PID looks kinda of sus.

SmolderSip

[strange latch]

Oh well

[dull nimbus]

high chance it MIGHT be spoofed? will try anyways though.

[bold barn]

oh my, it does seem sketchy

[astral cairn]

Let's go!

[bold barn]

let's hope not!

[hybrid yew]

Of course you’re gay

[astral cairn]

I'm happy of course lol.

[hybrid yew]

What do you mean by that?

[bold barn]

okay, if SILVERGAY is in this Discord server, kindly DM me and I'll send you a special little certificate that'll surely attract a lot of people!

[strange latch]

It means i'm reinstalling it

Which didn't work btw

[hybrid yew]

Bruh

[hybrid yew]

Then you have to reinstall it via to GitHub way

[bold barn]

Has STS SILVER already been reported?

[hybrid yew]

@strange latch do you have a windows or Mac?

[misty sandal]

He's not a cheater

[strange latch]

Uhh i'm using a ftp server on my phone to transfer files

[misty sandal]

STS SILVER is legit

[hybrid yew]

Ok

[dull nimbus]

hes legit

[astral cairn]

I'm not even a cheater.

[jolly jetty]

Found someone hacking before I disconnected. There is no audio due to background noise

[untold badge]

Blue also won't appear if the plugin loader is disabled

[hybrid yew]

Pid please

Ty

[bold barn]

okay well someone is definately hacking.

[hybrid yew]

Yo, I swear everybody doppelgänger this man💀

[bold barn]

I'll upload proof shortly.

[dull nimbus]

they are def spoofing.

some cheater is trying to impersonate you after all 💀 @astral cairn

[untold badge]

Next time we're gonna see 80085 or something in the PID judging by their maturity level

[astral cairn]

Bruh.

[misty sandal]

Now makes sense

cheaters are now trolling

[astral cairn]

They just can't handle the Ls.

[misty sandal]

Can we ping shutterbug2000 please

[dull nimbus]

@ocean lichen

[misty sandal]

I wonder how many cheaters in this wave

that's a lot

[bold barn]

At least I'm pretty sure that's who the hacker is.

[dull nimbus]

okay its def the same guy

they are spoofing with 3 PIDS

💀

[bold barn]

Yikes.

[misty sandal]

Well we need the anti spoof method then

[dull nimbus]

@manic dune could you help?

[bold barn]

CTGP-7!

[misty sandal]

otherwise it becomes impossible banning

[bold barn]

off-topic but first-person racing is the only true way to play Mario Kart 7

[misty sandal]

Yes but.... CTGP-7 should be another way to play MK7, not an alternative to Pretendo

[bold barn]

exactly!

[misty sandal]

Vanilla MK7 or Modded MK7

two different categories

[untold badge]

1st person without motion controls feels incomplete

[strange latch]

I love ctgp7 a lot but i prefer vanilla mk7 to an extent, the main problem with this game are the hackers 😭

[bold barn]

This can be enabled/disabled at will.

Simply go to Mario Kart Channel.

[strange latch]

It is still annoying

[untold badge]

I know, I made sure it was enabled before playing online

[misty sandal]

Agreed

But let's remember Pretendo is in development

[strange latch]

I hope we get an anticheat soon

[bold barn]

okay, now to try and bust hackers in Battle Mode. not that anyone would be in there anyway

[misty sandal]

the community can help to improve it

[strange latch]

Battle mode: ⚰️

[misty sandal]

no doxxing

[bold barn]

may consider adding you back

[misty sandal]

oh lol

[bold barn]

really. got disconnected for no apparent reason.

Nope.

then again I've been randomly disconnecting a lot in Splatoon today. again, for no apparent reason

highly unlikely my Internet is the issue, but it's possible

didn't do this before

[misty sandal]

I remember when this thread was temporarily renamed to Snitch thread

[bold barn]

yes!

really?! disconnected again.

I don't know what to do at this point.

[untold badge]

006-0612? Probably just nobody online if so

[sand cedar]

006-0612 (3DS/2DS)

Support code detected, press to expand information

[bold barn]

Nope, just a generic communication error message

[misty sandal]

After this ban wave cheaters be like:

hElP mEeeee!2!11!1! wHaT'S eRroR cOdE 002-0102?+?!?÷?#??#

[sand cedar]

002-0102 (3DS/2DS)

Support code detected, press to expand information

[untold badge]

Oh

[misty sandal]

aM i bAnNeD?2??2?2?2

wHy???

Custom images are bannable?

why?

i wonder why custom images are bannable

do they cause harm?

spam?

[untold badge]

Of course the servers are now really active as soon as my device is entirely dead

[misty sandal]

Oh

What if I post a custom image that's not nsfw

[untold badge]

It isn't working at the moment, repair is required

[bold barn]

welp. Internet is too unstable for anything other than Mario Kart Wii (used 128kbps Internet and could still play the game just fine), and that other game is offline until <t:1721185200:t>

[bold barn]

hint: ||look at my profile picture.||

[misty sandal]

Also wait

[smoky wolf]

People still cheat???

[misty sandal]

If i post a custom image wont they just warn me or smth?

[bold barn]

Sadly, yes.

[misty sandal]

Before going for bans?

[smoky wolf]

That's some sad news

[misty sandal]

it might be too extreme banning for first offense unless it's inappropriate

[untold badge]

Yeah I sense an issue here

[smoky wolf]

Anyone new get found out?

[bold barn]

okay, welp I guess it's time for MKWii! since this other title is offline

[feral osprey]

i feel like pretendo needs to prioritize rewriting the juxt code of conduct and pretendo network services agreement more

especially since they're getting bigger

[bold barn]

if anyone wants to join in, head to #offtopic

[feral osprey]

also

they don't have a way to reread it

[misty sandal]

Time to discuss about rule 5 on juxt! What could go wrong?

ofc dont it's a insta ban

[untold badge]

This is a good thing

[bold barn]

the game has nothing to do with Nintendo or Pretendo though

[untold badge]

It's great that it's offline

[feral osprey]

they should add a user menu similar to the original miiverse

(this is unfortunately the best image i could find of it)

[astral cairn]

No sound.

[dull nimbus]

yep still spoofing their PID.

[jolly jetty]

I am spectating a hacker

[astral cairn]

That's them.

[dull nimbus]

wrong channel.

sorry.

[misty sandal]

That's Pretendo for ya

[untold badge]

@bold barn

[misty sandal]

ruining the fun for everyone

[dull nimbus]

its not the real one. someone's trying to impersonate as him cheating with several names and PIDs.

[bold barn]

Yep, they know that I've reported them.

[untold badge]

I know, just making them aware of it

[dull nimbus]

alright.

[bold barn]

Yep. Besides, that's not even how you write my username.

[dull nimbus]

yup.

[bold barn]

so no 0102 for me!

[untold badge]

I wonder who they're gonna impersonate next

[hybrid yew]

So it’s time for a console ban

Unless they have different 3DS’s

[bold barn]

hopefully not you or Imora or shutterbug

[dull nimbus]

if we had the real PID we would.

thats a task for @manic dune

[untold badge]

Spoofing me would be funny as hell, my console doesn't even work

[bold barn]

their Friend Code is also being spoofed💀

[dull nimbus]

thats what im guessing.

[feral osprey]

i just thought of something

will it be possible to kick someone from the servers if they're detected to have a spoofed PID

[bold barn]

okay, whoever this hacker is, you're not gonna bypass our admin bans. your console is still gonna get permanently banned. quit hacking now and we might give you another chance in the future.

[bold barn]

though that is up to staff to decide.

[strange latch]

Another hacker called gavgav, was just standing with metal mario in the finish line the whole match

[dull nimbus]

already reported that one.

he used item hacks.

[strange latch]

Ah

[feral osprey]

like prevent them from accessing online multiplayer servers until their spoofed PID goes away

[astral cairn]

Wow, so many reports lol. I can't wait to see them cry when they get banned.

[hybrid yew]

Bro, I’ve came across that man and reported him too

[untold badge]

Anything new on the impersonator?

[bold barn]

I know they've been working on anti-spoof

[strange latch]

Insane

[feral osprey]

nice

[bold barn]

maybe I'm wrong though

[astral cairn]

Why even give them a second chance lol? It obvious they won't stop, just look at what they're doing.

[bold barn]

I know, this was meant to MAYBE get them to stop.

[feral osprey]

im gonna ask this again will it ever be possible to just prevent someone with a spoofed PID from accessing online multiplayer servers?
they won't be wholly banned from online but they will not be able to access online multiplayer

[hybrid yew]

Is the plugin loader appearing?

[bold barn]

We need this!!!

[strange latch]

No 😭

I don't understand

[bold barn]

It's too bad we kinda have to use CTGP-7 in the meantime.

[misty sandal]

Wait

If main snitch doesnt add them

an hacker could

Spoof using my PID

[dull nimbus]

yeah..

[astral cairn]

It all depends if @manic dune can make it possible to.

[misty sandal]

and get MY console banned right?

[hybrid yew]

Bruh

[untold badge]

Is it enabled in Rosalina?

[dull nimbus]

im actually not sure about it.

[misty sandal]

Like if a cheater knows my PID

and spoofs it

[strange latch]

Rosalina? I thought it was on the luma settings

[misty sandal]

they can get me banned for nothing right?

[hybrid yew]

Go to the official Nintendo homebrew server and ask for help

[untold badge]

You gotta enable plugin loader in Rosalina too

[hybrid yew]

Yeah, the one where you have to do L+down+select

[strange latch]

Ohhh

Well

I have the plugin loader enabled

[thick geyser]

How do you wii u prevents hdmi to work properly?

[hybrid yew]

OK, so then your good

[bold barn]

We may never know.

[strange latch]

Now

How do i use the plugin

I'm sorry if this sounds dumb

Gotcha

Well uh

Nothing happens

[hybrid yew]

Go online

Then go to friends/opponents

[strange latch]

Ohhhhhhhh

[hybrid yew]

Did your Top screen flash blue? When you first joined the game

[strange latch]

No

Maybe i got the region wrong?

[jolly jetty]

2 for 1 special (already reported gavgav but whatever)

[hybrid yew]

If so, then change the title ID to 0004000000030800

[hybrid yew]

This is the third time gavgav has been reported

[strange latch]

YES

YES

THERE IS A BLUE SCREEN

[hybrid yew]

Ok good

[astral cairn]

Also expert too.

[hybrid yew]

It’s works now

[hybrid yew]

They’re on a roll

[strange latch]

Hell yeah

[hybrid yew]

Yeah, but where is the evidence?

We need video proof that he was actually hacking

Or we can’t ban him

[bold barn]

and this looks spoofed too

[strange latch]

Wait what

Nonono

It was an example

Lol

[hybrid yew]

Ok

Should’ve said that before

[astral cairn]

Definitely lol.

[strange latch]

Yeah sorry

Anyway

[bold barn]

PIDs should be 8 alphanumeric characters in length, following 0x.

[strange latch]

@hybrid yew thank you so much

🙏

[hybrid yew]

Np

Always here to help

[misty sandal]

It's hexdecimal

now converted to a decimal number

the new update displays just a decimal number

[dull nimbus]

huge ban wave coming up

like reports from a few days ago up to now.

[feral osprey]

i would react with an ironic "hype train" gif but it would probably not fit here

[dull nimbus]

either way. they are banned.

if we got lucky. the guy impersonating should be banned since they only changed the mii name?

[ocean lichen]

reports from 7/12/24 -> 7/16/24 have been processed :3

[astral cairn]

Thank goodness.

[blazing vale]

clientsided things wont get me banned right

[feral osprey]

no

[blazing vale]

ok

[feral osprey]

only serverside things

stuff like cheats

or in splatoon's case stuff like changing the colors or sky for all players

[blazing vale]

day to night also?

[feral osprey]

By changing the sky for all players I mean day to night

[blazing vale]

mm ok thanks

[manic dune]

no, i made them display as decimal now. what you're talked about is what's represented in memory, hexadecimal.

i follow the one pretendo uses for wii u, thought it makes things easier lol

[bold barn]

Ohhhhh... neat!

[astral cairn]

There was a guy spoofing his PID.

[manic dune]

I know, i read the chats in here.

[astral cairn]

Ah.

[echo finch]

I would think that makes things easier, too :)

[hybrid yew]

W

Caught a guy using speed hacks

Caught this one in 4K too

[astral cairn]

Same room.

[astral cairn]

I legit was gonna make a report lol, nice job.

[hybrid yew]

IM IN A GAME WITH HIM AGAIN

[stuck obsidian]

Nice dude

[astral cairn]

The report was made, so we just wait now.

[hybrid yew]

Bro has infinite star on

[stuck obsidian]

The struggle is killing me

[astral cairn]

Bruh.

[hybrid yew]

Bro was at it again😭

Alr

💀 he made duplicates

[dull nimbus]

oh boy high chance its spoofed 💀

[hybrid yew]

Now I’m in a game with him privately

[dull nimbus]

could you update your plugin and grab the PID of the first mii of that guy??

[hybrid yew]

And crash

Damn

[hybrid yew]

It’s here

[dull nimbus]

whats the PID's duplicate?

[hybrid yew]

I already updated it

[hybrid yew]

Hold up I’m loading back in

[dull nimbus]

alright.

[strange latch]

This happens to me so often in this game now that it pisses me off

[hybrid yew]

Fr

[hybrid yew]

There’s three now💀

[dull nimbus]

yep hes spoofing.

SolSigh

holy fuck.

[strange latch]

Wait i think i saw this guy right now

In spectator mode

YEAH

[hybrid yew]

All three

[dull nimbus]

yup hes spoofing then.

[hybrid yew]

I already reported him don’t worry

[dull nimbus]

geez...

[strange latch]

W

[dull nimbus]

PID spoofing is becoming much more of an issue now..

[hybrid yew]

Exactly they’re trying to make sure they don’t get banned💀

[strange latch]

This is why the world yearns for private matches

I know it will come out soon tho

[hybrid yew]

Fr

[hybrid yew]

It will I believe in pretendo

[stuck obsidian]

Is it even public or people actually pay for this shit 😭😭😭

Either way that’s just crazy

[dull nimbus]

can't say much. they seem to be mostly private but theres one that is public.

[misty sandal]

hopefully we will get a plugin update for that

[stuck obsidian]

let’s just hope they are from years ago ig

[misty sandal]

they can't get away with that for longer

[strange latch]

Yesss

[misty sandal]

And also the opponents who spoof can be checked later if they are still on the list

Once the update is released

so they are so done

[stuck obsidian]

Since the PID spoofing is becoming an issue, i would like to say that I do not use pretendo on 3DS, so if y’all see me cheating on MK7, then someone’s definitely spoofing 😭

[feral osprey]

i use pretendo on 3DS but not too much (the wii u is more of my type)

[misty sandal]

Impersonation can be done without spoofing too

[stuck obsidian]

True

Either way I only play Mario Kart 8 or Splatoon on pretendo

[strange latch]

Tbh i mostly play ctgp-7 if i want to play mk7 online

[feral osprey]

I have one NNID and PNID linked to both systems

[misty sandal]

You don't need a PNID for MK7 tho

[stuck obsidian]

Wait what

[feral osprey]

I know I'm just saying

I actually used Pretendo on 3DS without linking my PNID until somewhere around June

[stuck obsidian]

I’m surprised that’s possible to be fair

I never knew that 😭😭😭

[feral osprey]

You never needed a NNID for online play on 3DS either, so it makes sense you don't need a PNID

[misty sandal]

And the 3DS came out before Nintendo Network existed

[stuck obsidian]

Ah

No wonder why then

[misty sandal]

that's also why you get two ban error codes

002-0102 friend server

[sand cedar]

002-0102 (3DS/2DS)

Support code detected, press to expand information

[misty sandal]

022-2812 Nintendo Network

[sand cedar]

022-2812 (3DS/2DS)

Support code detected, press to expand information

[stuck obsidian]

Pretty cool to know for some reason

[manic dune]

it's a 100% confirmation it's spoofed, they change the PIDs to duplicate

i remember that pid randomizers broke the PSS in Pokémon lol, hopefully pretendo fixes that crasher & annoying exploit

[feral osprey]

Whoever made the PID Spoofer count your days

[stuck obsidian]

Probably many people did for different games ig

[manic dune]

it's public

[stuck obsidian]

Most likely

[stuck obsidian]

Oh god 💀

[feral osprey]

I'm gonna cry #InTheRealWorld

[manic dune]

well ill likely add the method to get the unspoofed one despite spoofer anyway

they can count their days

[misty sandal]

Then the anti spoof should be public ig

[manic dune]

yeah

since even with knowing how it works they can't get around it

[dull nimbus]

prayge

[misty sandal]

Also the spoofers are already screwed if you release it soon right?

[dull nimbus]

its so over for cheaters

[misty sandal]

They are in the opponent list

we could go to the list

and report them

[astral cairn]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxOuNXsZ-LjE7wUHr9HlUnEtcTzcsYh9rI?si=PWQb-P6ogmW9B7V4

[manic dune]

don't think it works there. or better say, i never tested it. only did it with current lobbies

[manic dune]

not the instant acceleration lmao

[dull nimbus]

is that one spoofed? the numbers look a bit off

[astral cairn]

Beats me.

[manic dune]

hard to tell, would only know in hexadecimal. since most ppl use spoofers with hexadecimal input. they love to put shit like AAAAAA or FFFFFF to it

or 69696969

[misty sandal]

Can cheaters troll and spoof real PIDs?

like what happens if they use my PID

And they report it

[manic dune]

they'd need your fc on their actual console to spoof it even on the "anti spoof" method

and i don't think there's any tool that allows modifying those numbers, at least not on server side

however as of rn, they could very well take your fc and use it while hacking online. which is another issue coming with the spoofers

[dull nimbus]

oh god...

[misty sandal]

And get my console banned correct?

without even playing

[astral cairn]

Damn. We really need to stop this.

[manic dune]

maybe? however you'd report it here & they'd know. not sure abt people who aren't here though, which is indeed very dangerous :P even more of a reason why I'll port the anti spoof method into a separate plugin. however not sure if I'll keep the project open source.

that's probably the only thing holding me back from doing it, i don't want to have it open source if it's included.

[feral osprey]

i don’t think i want to go online in mk7 anymore

[misty sandal]

The issue, we need an easier way to let people know where to download the new "snitch" plugin

Play CTGP-7

In the meantime

[manic dune]

it'll be on the same GitHub. just without source

[dull nimbus]

honestly same..

[manic dune]

that's a risk with any game by the way. Splatoon is likely affected by this too, in case there's spoofers

[feral osprey]

I don’t think there’s any known cases of spoofing on Splatoon

I’m gonna hope nobody publicly releases a spoofer

[dull nimbus]

only name changers for that game existing as far as i know

[manic dune]

how does the pid display for wii u games work? i saw it had a interface on some webpage

[dull nimbus]

it does for here in https://mario-kart-8.pretendo.network/
but splatoon currently dosen't have a website like that. currently only relying on recently played players.

[manic dune]

oh, then how does that one operate

[feral osprey]

i wonder if pretendo will have a splatnet

they do have plans for a SMM bookmark website but im not sure if they said anything about splatnet

[dull nimbus]

the source was linked there at one point. not sure about now.

[thick geyser]

We only have this atm https://splatoon.oatmealdome.me/one/pretendo/versus

Only shows stages on ranked and turf wars

[astral cairn]

I'll make the report anyway.

[misty sandal]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxx3dECWmfMoswP116SsN1JUYeUggX-Rs6

no PID but they changed from 3 mushrooms to a green shell

[astral cairn]

I'll grab it. It was the Yoshi and HQ player.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxWxxjH-QyPcSDpQsH3IM8I4RUoUZ5caX8?si=VVBo1dijDBOVZRkj

I'm not sure if Pretendo mods will ban intentional trollers trying to ruin the experience.

[misty sandal]

mk7 was cheating anyways

[misty sandal]

and this one was a different yoshi if you look carefully

[vapid abyss]

@dull nimbus

[misty sandal]

I hope they ban trolls

[astral cairn]

It was the one with the Japanese symbols in their name.

[misty sandal]

For a split second i can see you tapping and it's a julian going from 3 mushrooms to a green shell without using them

but wonder if it's just lag anyways

[astral cairn]

Most likely lag.

[misty sandal]

Makes sense

Btw you are so good at this game

sucks cheaters ruin streams like that

[astral cairn]

I appreciate it.

[astral cairn]

Definitely. I want them to go away for good.

[misty sandal]

indeed

I hope they see the 002-0102 error code every time they click online multiplayer

[sand cedar]

002-0102 (3DS/2DS)

Support code detected, press to expand information

[astral cairn]

Lmao, definitely.

[astral cairn]

How'd you access Miiverse?

[vapid abyss]

pretty sure its public again.

[astral cairn]

Let me try using it.

[vapid abyss]

If it doesnt work for you its likely beta tester only.

[astral cairn]

It doesn't lol.

[vapid abyss]

Likely beta tester only then

[astral cairn]

"502 Bad Gateway".

[vapid abyss]

Weird. I swear it was public again.

[astral cairn]

It didn't work for me, so I don't know if I have to install anything.

[vapid abyss]

Yeah its public

[astral cairn]

Weird.

[misty sandal]

You need a PNID

and Juxt is public

[astral cairn]

What would I do to get it to work then?

[normal iron]

was in that race with you and wanted to know if you grinded for that vr

[astral cairn]

I reached max in 2019.

[astral cairn]

https://x.com/STSSilver_MK7/status/1156412592186728448

SŤS⭐️$îłvèŕ (@STSSilver_MK7) on X

Finally, after 2 years it has been done today 7/30/19. 99,999VR on my VR1 is reached. Thank you for helping Ace Bullet, Jamie Dodger, Taylor, Logan, Sarah, Rosa, Darko, Darky, Ken, Pyeguy, Luckyo, Leo, Yuumari, Shawn, Kevin78, Shoyru, and Nick.

Twitter · Jul 31, 2019, 3:53 AM

[normal iron]

god damn

nice

[misty sandal]

How many max VRs do you have

[astral cairn]

Three. I'm not grinding on the other ones yet.

I want to wait till a large majority of hackers disappear.

[misty sandal]

Hacking is lame

I don't see where is the fun

[vapid abyss]

what are the 3 stars on your player thing near the flag

[misty sandal]

3 stars on every grand prix

I have also done that legitimately

[vapid abyss]

So if I get 1 star on every cup on every cc I get 1 star?

[astral cairn]

Yes.

[astral cairn]

It's easy anyway.

[vapid abyss]

new goal this summer

[astral cairn]

I mean, it should only take one sitting.

[vapid abyss]

I cannot get 3 stars on any cup in 150cc

I have tried

[misty sandal]

skill issue

[vapid abyss]

Easy for you to say lol

[misty sandal]

Make sure you dominate every race

always stay in 1st for most of the time

[astral cairn]

CTGP-7 has 87 custom tracks, and I got those all done in one sitting.

[vapid abyss]

what?!?

[astral cairn]

I've technically done it twice.

[astral cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/live/m5owg4I216A

https://www.youtube.com/live/wjAbnF0ZS8s

[vapid abyss]

Wow

im speechless

[astral cairn]

The competitive community for MK7 is pretty small.

This game has a lot of mechanics unknown to casuals.

[misty sandal]

Still impressive people care more about Mario Kart Wii than 7

[vapid abyss]

I have never got the hype about mario kart Wii.

[astral cairn]

Bikes are broken in MKW.

[languid musk]

Modability
The character balance being ass (melee)
Super shortcuts with bikes
Online

[astral cairn]

That's literally the only combo worth using, along with Funky Kong for top speed.

[misty sandal]

I hope the hackers will find an exploit to use Pretendo hackless on 3DS. That will make the player count higher

Have you guys got 23917 on Mario Kart Wii?

[normal iron]

sort of surprising to here that theres a competitive mk7 community

[astral cairn]

It's not well known lol.

[astral cairn]

This happens whenever I try to enter the Nintendo Network settings.

[misty sandal]

That is not supposed to happen

[astral cairn]

I'm not sure how to get it stop either.

[misty sandal]

Disable the plugin loader

[astral cairn]

Alright.

That worked.

[misty sandal]

nice

[astral cairn]

After trying to link it.

[misty sandal]

Switch to Nintendo, log to eShop, and switch back and try again

[astral cairn]

Region changed console.

[misty sandal]

You can't use NNID?

They just switch to Pretendo again

[astral cairn]

Wait, my regular one worked.

[misty sandal]

nice

Switch to Pretendo

[misty sandal]

Do you have a PNID tho?

[astral cairn]

Yes, it was linked to my Wii U.

[misty sandal]

Strange it wasnt working

[dense goblet]

That's rverse

[astral cairn]

Ah. Then how do I get the other one?

[dense goblet]

Just install nimbus again on UU

It should overwrite it

[astral cairn]

Both files?

[dense goblet]

Any

Doesn't matter

[astral cairn]

Alright.

Sweet, now it finally worked.

[dense goblet]

👍

[astral cairn]

I'm so dumb lol, I forgot I made two. For the Wii U and 3DS, since it can't be linked at the same time. 🤦🏿‍♂️

[stuck marsh]

👀

[astral cairn]

What?

[stuck marsh]

Nothing, I'm just lurking

[astral cairn]

Ah.

[untold badge]

Does the dev team know how it's done?

[manic dune]

ah i saw this guy a lot lol

[manic dune]

they overwrite the PID inside Net::NetworkPlayerData

it's constantly updated, it keeps track of VR changes, combo changes too (unless that's in a different data set) etc

[stuck marsh]

There's a PoC of it somewhere ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[timber crystal]

@icy mica mind turning off the aim assist? thank youuu

[high trench]

aim assist ?

[timber crystal]

auto fires a charger when the reticle is on someone

[high trench]

oh trigger bot

[icy mica]

I dont have aim assist active?

[timber crystal]

buddy ur making it so obvious

[icy mica]

🤨

[timber crystal]

just turn it off im not even reporting u

[icy mica]

i can double chack my gecko codes...

[timber crystal]

mainly bc i dont have proof!

[icy mica]

but I dont think I have it active...

[timber crystal]

yh okay keep it off

[icy mica]

I just use a shooter so no one thinks I am cheating, thanks mate

WHY DID IT NOT CHANGE 😭

[cursive ore]

Man i hate TRIGGER BOT

This remind me of bo2 ps3 😡

[lofty field]

Sorry for my accent

It’s so horrible

[high trench]

what do you want the mods to do 😭 there is not even a single name on screen 😭

[lofty field]

He give me super

[lofty field]

i don't say

[high trench]

what

just send a screenshot of the lobby when the game finishes

the first person is the host and those hacks require being host to be activated or sum shit

[lofty field]

The game finish and don't make screen

srry

[dull nimbus]

Oh boy him still trying to ban evade 💀

[dull nimbus]

they were banned an hour later. i know who it is. but i'd prefer not giving any attention.

[astral cairn]

Damn. It would have been fun to. 😔

These kids really think they won't get caught and their hacks are so powerful till they get banned.

[lean trout]

Randomly had a player who got a gorillion points from every match a few days ago. First time that happened but I got no PNID name

[dull nimbus]

but were they like... using insta cover or rapid-fire?

they seem to be using burst bomb only weapons though?

@stuck obsidian would this be the same glitch you had?

[astral cairn]

Do y'all ban lap trollers though? I was intentionally targeted 3 times last night.

[dull nimbus]

im not even sure if we enforce this afaik

we should make a guideline for it at somepoint.

[lean trout]

Not that I've seen myself

[astral cairn]

Alright. I still reported them any and got the PIDs. If they keep doing it I'll keep stacking reports.

[cursive ore]

The amount of point seems like it's the code to have max point

They prolly just using this code but not cheating

[dull nimbus]

i see..

[cursive ore]

Since the code is public they prolly using that

That's my guess

[astral cairn]

The same with with the over 99K cheat, do you condone that in Splatoon if they aren't doing any trolling?

[stuck obsidian]

that's 3 in a row tho

it would rarely happen on moray towers using cemu

either way this shouldn't affect the game

it's points

[astral cairn]

I mean, they are banning someone using an AFK hack in MK7 with a VR extender. I would think this would apply to Splatoon too.

[timber crystal]

no thats a max points code

which is harmless anyway

[dull nimbus]

yeah not really a good report anyways.

fair enough.

[leaden oyster]

so many hackers

[blazing vale]

someone changed the map?? (my night mode is client sided dont worry)

[thick geyser]

Yes, who was the host?

Can you grab pnid?

[blazing vale]

i cant my friend list doesn’t show the recent players

its just blank

[burnt sparrow]

isnt that the force night mod from game banana

[blazing vale]

its the aroma plugin one

[thick geyser]

Sometimes it fails, keep trying

[blazing vale]

i dont even knew who hosted anyway cuz i didnt ss the playerlist 😭

[dull nimbus]

whos the host?

check the player at the top

[blazing vale]

i only took a pic of the stages

ill just lyk if it happens again

[manic dune]

@dull nimbus lol i got sent this. i want to clarify that this is the spoofer most people use. they change those digits in memory. it's not gonna help u find the anti spoof method however, and if more insight is needed on how it works, i can provide that

[harsh jungle]

Unpopular opinion, but this is kinda fun and harmless

[high trench]

yeah it is and I wouldn't have made the report if it wasnt so bright and if the guy didn't do random annoying shit afterwards

[ionic kayak]

I kinda like this type of blue color

[harsh jungle]

same

It's like electric bubblegum blue

I hope they don't get banned

Nvm just saw that they put an infinite lobby timer

[high trench]

and they changed gamemodes apparently

[cursive ore]

holy shit if someone saw me using king squid roller in splatoon i had it by accident i closed my game quicklly

[blazing vale]

💀

[dull nimbus]

whos the host?

the top one?

[harsh jungle]

idk

[blazing vale]

how can i tell if smth is client side or not idk how

[high trench]

well yeah

[hybrid yew]

Caught this lil Jit in 4k📸

[dull nimbus]

we could probably grab it by the mii name if its unique enough.

[hybrid yew]

Let me get the pid

[untold badge]

#pretendo message This guy admitted to cheating while falsely claiming someone else did

[high trench]

I'm sorry I couldn't get the pnid because it didn't appear for some reason

[hybrid yew]

Here is the pid

[misty sandal]

I am calling it someone with the name piplupness will cheat soon

[fair wasp]

delete that they might try to copy that too

[misty sandal]

Sure

Are they trying to get legit players banned?

[hybrid yew]

Change it to that’s not my mii name

[untold badge]

I wonder if someone will try to cheat in my name ever

[misty sandal]

Btw I might try playing MK8 for the first time on Pretendo

Since I own a Wii U now

[bold barn]

For future reference, this is not my username. My username displays differently, and if it displays otherwise (send me a private message if you'd like to have the real username*), you've most definately encountered an impersonater.
-# *Note that I may log these requests.

[vapid abyss]

fair enough. They have just been spamming messages in the homebrew community on juxt

[misty sandal]

Should we ping shutterbug2000 later?

or is he aware of the spoofing

[cursive ore]

true their username got a bunch of question mark

[misty sandal]

Do you guys think it's safe playing MK7 online atm?

[bold barn]

many of these characters don't display correctly in games like Mario Kart 7 or Splatoon.

hence the reason for [?] in Splatoon and spaces in MK7.

[misty sandal]

i am still worried if one cheater gets my PID and FC to spoof

and getting my console falsely banned

[vapid abyss]

absolutely not. So many hackers

[bold barn]

that's actually a very good point. for your safety you should probably delete that

[vapid abyss]

is that what spoofing is? someone steals your friend code and pid and hacks with it?

[misty sandal]

You put a fake FC and PID to avoid getting your console banned

and they could steal our PID to cheat and get innocents banned imo

[quasi sedge]

I mean i can if u want

Jkjk

[misty sandal]

At what cost

xd

[quasi sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-everything-avengers-gif-14066494

[astral cairn]

No problem. The impersonator will get banned, not you.

[misty sandal]

I just don't get why are they doing this in the first place

[jolly jetty]

Yeah I wont be on mk7 for a while then

[astral cairn]

Because dumb.

[misty sandal]

People dedicate years of their time for what.... to let people cheat???

[vapid abyss]

wow. Thats unfortunate. Crazy what lengths people go too to cheat in mario kart.

[quasi sedge]

Real, ive never played mk7 on pretendo and wont for a while 🙃🙃

[misty sandal]

I might try MK8 later then

[bold barn]

obviously!

[misty sandal]

I love MK7 but I think I should not play for a while

CTGP-7 is recommended for now ig

[vapid abyss]

does pretendo know how to tell if people are spoofing to prevent banning inocents?

[astral cairn]

Not yet, but a hacker may release a way to soon.

[dull nimbus]

they are likely aware by now.

[misty sandal]

Hope they are taking it seriously

[vapid abyss]

yeah.... Ill stick to single player for now😅

[misty sandal]

cheaters got so mad they got banned in mass

[astral cairn]

That's on them, they know the rules.

If you're gonna hack, do it privately with friends.

[misty sandal]

Yep, that is moral and fun