Thrustmaster TX FFB fade | 505 Games | Page 1

sullen warren Sep 30, 2023, 9:30 PM

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I am using a Thrustmaster TX servo base on an Xbox Series S and after 3 laps the FFB will fade to almost zero in one of the sectors on the track ie Suzuka sector 2, Spa sector 3, Zandvoort sector 2. The rest of the track feels fine, but in the affect sector FFB feels like it’s at 5%. Looks like something broke in v1.9.3.1

sullen warren Oct 2, 2023, 6:23 AM

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I have spoken to some of our Discord members and even on Direct drive wheels they experience the same fade, but to a lesser degree, because they have higher nm forces

sullen warren Oct 3, 2023, 6:19 AM

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I got the following from Thrustmaster "Could you please redo the update to version 58.06 and test if it works correctly now, since the console firmware update on September 27" and have updated the firmware on my Servo Base and the Xbox Series S. I tested again last night with the AMG GT4 @ Zandvoort and although the FFB is stronger it still feels like you only have 40% FFB from turn 6 to turn 10

sullen warren Oct 7, 2023, 12:43 PM

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@tender inlet This is happening at every track now, and FFB was fined before v1.9.3.1 since then either the 2nd or 3rd sector has little to no FFB on both Thrustmaster and Logitech wheels.

tender inlet Oct 7, 2023, 2:45 PM

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Can you check the Hz that the wheel is set to please.

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It needs to be 100hz

sullen warren Oct 7, 2023, 2:54 PM

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tender inlet Can you check the Hz that the wheel is set to please.

On Thrustmaster?

tender inlet Oct 7, 2023, 2:54 PM

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Yeah

sullen warren Oct 7, 2023, 3:06 PM

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tender inlet Yeah

Just tried at Indianapolis and still the same. I knew the Logitech 920 could only do 100hz. Never realised the Thrustmaster TX was the same.

sullen warren Oct 7, 2023, 3:27 PM

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When I first start a session then I can do 7-8 laps with good FFB and the it drops out either in the 2nd or 3rd sector. If I return to pits and go out again it fine for 2-3 laps and then drops out again.

sullen warren Oct 7, 2023, 3:49 PM

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Also this only started happening after v1.9.3.1

sullen warren Oct 8, 2023, 12:54 PM

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@tender inlet I have tested all 4 frequency setting, none of them are any difference to the fade

celest pond Oct 8, 2023, 3:40 PM

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tender inlet It needs to be 100hz

That was new for me...

Is there any info what frequencies should be used for different wheelbases?
I've used 400Hz for TX and haven't noticed any FFB fade so far (mainly 30 min sprints).
At some point there was total loss of FFB but that's been fixed.

Maybe I could try different Hz's just for testing though.
Xbox Series X btw.

sullen warren Oct 9, 2023, 5:47 PM

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@tender inlet I have deleted my save file locally and in the cloud and even uninstalled and reinstalled. Am I the only person experiencing this problem?

tender inlet Oct 9, 2023, 7:20 PM

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It does seem that way yeah

sullen warren Oct 10, 2023, 11:58 AM

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@tender inlet I was testing again last night and I think its the Dynamic Damping that drops out in those sectors.

tender inlet Oct 10, 2023, 12:11 PM

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Have you tried turning dynamic damping off?

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And just turn normal damping up

sullen warren Oct 10, 2023, 2:01 PM

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Console does not have Damping only Dynamic Damping

tender inlet Oct 10, 2023, 2:56 PM

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Your wheel has it built in though

sullen warren Oct 10, 2023, 3:12 PM

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@tender inlet control panel only applies to PC. Not console

tender inlet Oct 10, 2023, 3:12 PM

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sullen warren <@285864117766455299> control panel only applies to PC. Not console

I forget you can't configure wheels on Thrustmaster the same as Fanatec

sullen warren Oct 18, 2023, 8:55 PM

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@tender inlet How do I get good FFB?

sullen warren Oct 19, 2023, 6:38 AM

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@tender inlet In case you think its my servo base, I can play Project Cars and Forza Motorsport for hours with out any FFB problems. There fore this problem has to be some in ACC. Honestly I don't want to play ACC atm, it is very difficult to be consistent over a lap when you can't feel the FFB for 1/3 to 1/2 the lap.

tender inlet Oct 19, 2023, 8:18 AM

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What car are you driving?

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Can you post your controls screen please for me to see

sullen warren Oct 19, 2023, 2:25 PM

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@tender inlet Mercedes-AMG GT3 2020

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tender inlet Oct 19, 2023, 2:33 PM

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I would suggest turning the gain up. I would also suggest keeping an eye on your FFB setting in the HUD. Adjust the gain until it's almost maxing out during corners.

sullen warren Oct 19, 2023, 4:21 PM

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@tender inlet I can’t set the gain over 85 or the FFB is red as soon as I turn the wheel. It took 8 laps and then same problem. Some corners feel like driving on carpet.

sullen warren Oct 21, 2023, 4:13 PM

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@tender inlet I though you said console now feels the same as PC. But console is broken yet again.

tender inlet Oct 21, 2023, 4:13 PM

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If the FFB in game is clipping then it's almost certainly not the game

sullen warren Oct 21, 2023, 5:03 PM

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@tender inlet How can you say that if you don’t even play on console?

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@tender inlet So the fact that I played Forza last night for 2.5 hours with no FFB problems, but I can’t even play ACC for 30 mins without FFB problems means my wheel is the problem?

sullen warren Oct 21, 2023, 5:39 PM

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@tender inlet I suggest you try ACC on Xbox and then come back and tell me it fells exactly the same as on PC.

elder cape Oct 21, 2023, 7:09 PM

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Put minimum force to 0 dynamic damping to 100 and road effects to 0.
Turn the gain down a bit as well but that depends on car and castor

sullen warren Oct 21, 2023, 7:36 PM

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My current setting are
GAIN - 85
MINIUM FORCE - 0
DYNAMIC DAMPING - 100
ROAD EFFECTS - 0

elder cape Oct 21, 2023, 8:10 PM

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Gain seems really high to me, my t300 I ran at 55-60
And my dd pro 55-45 with everything else as you have.

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If I went higher on the t300 for sure I would get fade pretty quickly

sullen warren Oct 21, 2023, 8:13 PM

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elder cape Gain seems really high to me, my t300 I ran at 55-60 And my dd pro 55-45 with ev...

I was running 70-75, but @tender inlet wanted me to go as high as possible

elder cape Oct 21, 2023, 8:16 PM

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I saw that, and that did confuse me🤣 try it lower, you actually get better feed back and hopefully no fade,
If the castor is high in the set up don't be afraid to lower to around 45-50.
Try it, hopefully it will work

sullen warren Oct 21, 2023, 8:17 PM

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Going to be testing lots of cars tomorrow

elder cape Oct 21, 2023, 8:19 PM

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Good luck, I hope this sorts it

tender inlet Oct 21, 2023, 8:40 PM

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I wanted to test if the gain would cause the peak in game or not. That way I know if the game is sending the information or not

sullen warren Oct 21, 2023, 9:30 PM

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@tender inlet It must be the game, because if I go into the pits the FFB is back for 2 laps and then goes away again, go in again and same thing. Also it’s not the whole lap, only 1 sector.

tender inlet Oct 22, 2023, 11:07 AM

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sullen warren <@285864117766455299> It must be the game, because if I go into the pits the FF...

If it was the game I would have thought more than just yourself would be affected

sullen warren Oct 23, 2023, 6:45 AM

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@tender inlet Tested the Aston Matin V8, 2022 Audi and the 296 Ferrari and then still have the same problem. I also tried setting the steer lock to 620 for the AMG, but still the same problem. It’s as if the FFB detail that you feel from the wheels just turns off. You can still feel curbs, but corners feel vague.

sullen warren Oct 23, 2023, 7:24 AM

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@tender inlet I am going to open a ticket with Thrustmaster

tender inlet Oct 23, 2023, 7:25 AM

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It does sound like a wheel issue to me, especially considering there are a lot of T300 wheel users in the community that aren't experiencing the same issue you are.

sullen warren Oct 23, 2023, 8:29 AM

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@tender inlet I am desperate, you can't help me and I suspect TM is going to tell me it's ACC and I am going to be left between the Devil and the Deep blue sea. I know that some of my friends on DD wheels experience similar drop out, but not everyone wants to report bugs. We lost another member this week to PC and he said ACC is some much better on PC. But I am sure that is the strategy, make the game shit on console and then people will go and buy it again on PC.

sullen warren Oct 23, 2023, 8:31 AM

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tender inlet It does sound like a wheel issue to me, especially considering there are a lot o...

T300 is for PS5. I am on Xbox Series S, therefore TX, which historically has not had the FFB fade issue that T300 has.

tender inlet Oct 23, 2023, 8:41 AM

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sullen warren <@285864117766455299> I am desperate, you can't help me and I suspect TM is goin...

It would be a pretty dumb strategy if that's what we were doing. Especially considering the time, money and effort being put into console...

elder cape Oct 25, 2023, 6:41 AM

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sullen warren <@285864117766455299> Tested the Aston Matin V8, 2022 Audi and the 296 Ferrari a...

What settings did you use for each car

sullen warren Oct 25, 2023, 6:43 AM

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GAIN 80
MIN FORCE 0
DYN DAMP 100
ROAD 0

sullen warren Nov 13, 2023, 8:15 AM

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@tender inlet You were correct, it was the TX servo base. I returned it under warranty and they send me a new unit. I received the new Servo on Friday and have been done approximately 15 hours this weekend in ACC and everything works. I apologise for my previous comment about the game being shit.

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