#please add public lobby system ingame

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tawny willow
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to get the matchmaking popular theyd have to delete this discord which is absolutely not happening

pale ferry
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i get like the concerns with matchmaking but at this point there just isn't any other way, sorry

outer star
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MM was created because of the demand for it. It functions perfectly fine. However, when the patch came out that introduced MM, nobody used it. It’s a dead feature that probably won’t be revived; Discord VCs/LFGs are just much more convenient to use in terms of communication and finding a lobby quickly.

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If you were to rework MM into something like public servers, it’d also not go so hot. One prime example is joining while a team scan is being pulled; all teammates must be in it and so the person that joins effectively halts progress until they drop in.

You also have to factor in trust as well. There could be trolls or cheaters that ruin others experience, the Discord LFG provides at least some sense of security as you can post the lobby code later or DM it to respective individuals.

Also, public servers are geared towards a different “genre” of games. Not all types of games are compatible for many different reason. In my opinion, GTFO isn’t really the type of game to have servers due to its structure.

outer star
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The game quite literally redirects you to this DIscord, I doubt new player first impression changes. Their first impressions of the game come from YouTube gameplay from content creators.

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The game was oriented around P2P, not like Payday 2/3 or DRG.

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You also can't deny the convenience of Discord. I'll bet that majority of players use Discord as their go-to form of communication, regardless of what game.

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Regarding kicking players, it is not a vanilla feature. No such feature exists to kick a player out of a lobby.

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Once a player joins a slot, they cannot be removed by changing the slot feature until they leave the lobby.

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There exists a kick mod created by the modding community.

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You realize the premise of the original message right?

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"you can play only with bots"

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Clearly you nor the person actually know what the genre of the game is.

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It's a cooperative game. If they would actually look at the rundown menu, there would be a button literally directing you to this server.

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It is recommended that you don't play with bots, especially with harder expeditions.

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The game is not dying because of online matchmaking either, it is dying for a completely separate reason.

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Reading majority of the responses just proves what I said earlier.

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Clearly the original poster is pretty ignorant of current events regarding the game, and has no knowledge about the game itself.

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You can even argue that they didn't even bother to try to find someone to play the game with, nor researched potential ways to find such people to play with.

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It's a very bold claim to state "no people play this game" when it is very much proven false by steam player charts.

outer star
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You're barking up the wrong tree. Like I said and has been stated in this Discord before, the game is going to start dying out.

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Release of R8 will probably be the starting point for when it starts to dwindle the player base.

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The developers probably have no intention to do anything with this game anymore soon, as they are focusing their efforts somewhere else.

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I also doubt you kicked someone from the lobby, what I think happened is you probably told him to leave and then rejoin once the team scan has finished.

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The feature you are looking for is what you are in right now. It's the most popular and most effective way to pair up.

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If MM died when it first released and was demanded by the player base yet shunned upon, what makes you think it'll ever be revived again? Improved upon? The very players who asked for MM destroyed its use for it. Discord was just the better alternative.

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There are regional channels...? Did you bother to look?

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Also, people who speak native languages usually play with their friends. Prime of example of this is the Korean player base. They are usually in their own VCs in their own servers.

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Developers don't give a shit about the market from China, don't know what your point is.

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I don't know if you've heard, but the gaming market in China is strict.

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This isn't real world economics.

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You're fighting an uphill battle. MM died out roughly around Rundown 2, when it first came out (I believe). That was 1-2 years ago.

pale ferry
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r4

outer star
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R4, my apologies.

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That's still roughly 1-2 years ago.

pale ferry
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2 years ago yeah, cause alts started like one ago

outer star
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Regarding sales, all the devs are doing at this point is going to be trying to milk the game.

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Like I said, the game will start to dwindle the player base soon.

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It also doesn't help that they detest the modding community, where it brings community ideas to life.

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Yea, and that's illegal, if you didn't know...

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Not to mention with this game it is difficult to play with a VPN on, it causes networking issues.

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That doesn't make it any less illegal.

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The release of Rundown 8 will show the last biggest spike in the player base of GTFO. From there, it'll start to dwindle.

pale ferry
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like eh, that its not a thing in this convo

outer star
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But my ultimate point was that it doesn't matter at all.

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I'm not saying it because I like it, I'm saying it because it's the cold fucking truth about this game.

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Yes, there is plenty of content once it finishes, I am not denying that.

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The active player base will dwindle for serveral reasons.

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People who finish the game will leave, once all the content as been ran through. Yes, there is replayability, but that applies if and only if said player has friends or would like to revisit the game.

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Those players? Those players are going to be the core game players that are being discussed currently.

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Modding also gives some replayability features as well, alongside other niche reasons.

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But the new players coming in will not match the rate of the players "leaving".

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And what's extremely sad is that this game is one of its kind.

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The devs could've expanded the game to be better, but that's not going to happen.

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This doesn't even take into account where players quit the game after frustration over difficulty.

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In some cases already seen present day, people quit because of the difficulty, or take a break from the game.

outer star
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Your view is all wrong.

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And while you can ask, it'll probably never be implemented.

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Mod support is a harder battle than reviving MM, and MM is already dead to everyone here since its release.

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Again, the devs are invested in another project. They aren't going to add implementation or infrastructure for something that's proved dead.

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Not to mention, what would be the point of adding such capability to a soon-to-be dying game?

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I think your take is perhaps a bit too optimistic and ignorant.

sinful dirge
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u are just looking for argument
u cannot just deny everything

outer star
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If you think that you can just "ask" for modding just like that, then you have no idea what the state of the game is.

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You're blissfully ignorant.

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It's been outrighted stated by devs what they are doing, and what the future of the game holds.

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Not to mention history that you are deciding to ignore.

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I also think you are neglecting the practicallity of your entire viewpoint, with Discord.

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There was no argument, because this has no point.

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I am not even sure why you brought it up.

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Because that's just quite literally the definition of modders...

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If anything GTFO modders have it hard.

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Which just still proves both my points about you.

warm rose
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This is a must need for the game

pale ferry
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theres already a very long combo about it

warm rose
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I know i just wanted to say I agree

pale ferry
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ok fair

mental dune
warm rose
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@mental dune whats it called?

mental dune
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let me find it once more and I'll tell you terminal

mental dune
bleak condor
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thats not how P2P works ._.
even though its called "Peer-to-peer Connection" it still uses steams sever service (or whatever that called) to exchange sever info
so as long as chinese ppl can log on steam, they can technically join lobby all around the world (though the ping will be a issue)

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also ffs its 2023 and people still believe using VPN in China is illegal
smh

outer star
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China is still hella restrictive

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I would know as I have friends there still