gtfo-spoiler-chat

[jolly perch]

because its not the actual enemy I fear

the actual enemy vores you

this isnt vore

[cold brook]

Am I having a schizo episode or are these Door to 127 mission objectives just straight up lying to me

[jolly perch]

its just like enveloping

[jolly perch]

do not trust the warden they are lying

[cold brook]

Okay @jolly perch , I won't trust Warden

[jolly perch]

no trust Warden

dont trust the warden

[cold brook]

oh

The true Secondary experience is having incorrect and missleading mission objectives

[wet ravine]

did anyone found out how to open zone 76 on tutorial?

[errant vigil]

Beat E1

[lucid crown]

what are the reqs for e1 unlock?

[potent silo]

That level describes this community

Dense

[potent silo]

Use logic

[silent kettle]

#gtfo-chat message

[lucid crown]

very funny

[potent silo]

…… bro that was weeks ago

[silent kettle]

#gtfo-related-questions message

same lack of IQ

[potent silo]

It cant?

The High Caliber Pistol

[silent kettle]

...

[potent silo]

On a shooters body

Right

Basic ass shooter

[silent kettle]

go a1 and shoot a shooter in the body

and then come back to me

[potent silo]

Well I killed multiple enemies and it seemed shooters werent

Dying*

I might be wrong tho im basing myself off my teammates word I used it twice

Not a lack of IQ it’s more a lack of foundation

[silent kettle]

k

[potent silo]

Plus can you blame me update came out 11 hours ago I don’t even know the stats yet

“K”

Exactly

[silent kettle]

so why are you answering questions if you dont know

the guns

[potent silo]

Because the information isnt super public and clear yet since it just recently came out and I answered with the answer I currently had wether it was reliable or not?

Don’t turn “public” around

[silent kettle]

all it takes is for you to shoot an enemy in the body

[potent silo]

I know I know people already data mined it but not everybody goes out to look for ut

[silent kettle]

to verify if you are correct or not

[potent silo]

1. Im not that determined to confirm my information because im not scared of getting contested if im wrong im wrong so be it.

2. I was mid game when I answered that and I was host so couldn’t really verify.

3. I dislike the weapon personally.

[silent kettle]

:|

[potent silo]

Who even are you?

Lmao

[silent kettle]

very cool question

[clever mirage]

The hostility is not needed, let's move on

[potent silo]

The hostility from my question?

If so I wasnt trying to be hostile im just confused as to who they are and why they are trying to bash on me so hard thats all

[clever mirage]

Tone can be hard to read just via text, thank you for explaining and let's move on.

[potent silo]

No problem yeah my bad maybe I should start mentioning tones in these types of convo’s

Cant blame you a lot of this community is toxic anyways

[pallid jackal]

can some give me the recycle group code shaeffer talks about

[potent silo]

GTFO 72

ill tell u it

real quick

[pallid jackal]

tell

[burnt goblet]

whats everyones strats for the final section of c1?

[brisk dew]

shoot gun

[potent silo]

survive

lmao

[mortal portal]

Shoot gun, enemy die

[jolly perch]

Like the big room or the cells

[lucid crown]

i smell toxicity

and a ban hammer

lmao

[burnt goblet]

The area where the snatchers show up, past the warden door

[potent silo]

toxicity where?

[lucid crown]

you are extremely funny

[potent silo]

what?

[jolly perch]

Basically the strat my team did was we would sit in a corner and put sentries and shit

Pretty much it

[half mortar]

Does anyone know if you can get through the second door on the evaluation mission?

[plush pelican]

Tips on dealing with snatcher/pouncer?

[lone bramble]

wait frick, is this a bug? cause I'm not sure
First time on this level
and uh idk what to do about the objective now
do i just restart to checkpoint and pray?

[jolly perch]

did you grab the neonate

[potent silo]

hold the child look at all machine

[jolly perch]

cause you gotta put the neonate in the machine

[potent silo]

one will be like oh yes

[brisk dew]

put child into meat grinder

[jolly perch]

^

[lone bramble]

its just not there tho

[jolly perch]

the baby?

[potent silo]

u left it at spawn lol

[lone bramble]

ah
i never picked it up
thank you good sir

since ya know
if you dont pick up an objective it doesnt put a marker

[brisk dew]

was just keeping the child safe in spawn

before it's inevitable demise

[lone bramble]

:) gtfo no babies

[lilac leaf]

having trouble in a1 with the recycle group command, not working

any ideas?

[pliant violet]

Probably not the correct terminal

[lone bramble]

is you at the right terminal?

[brisk dew]

using correct terminal?

[pliant violet]

Look for zone 44

[brisk dew]

i know alot of people go for the terminal next to the door

[lilac leaf]

Ohhh

thanks guys

[royal lichen]

b2 was beeeg. fun, but long.

[torn tartan]

Anyone know anything about that side door in EVAL that you get told to "stay on the main path"?

I attempted to reach it after receiving extraction objectives but it is still in lockdown.

[burnt goblet]

Does C1s snatcher alarm stop after its over, or is it an error to the extract

[worthy anvil]

wombat maybe the side path is to teach new players how to read doors

[timid geyser]

I'm trying to figure out the same thing rn. The AI keeps repeating the same line so I don't think that just holding out for a long ass time is the solution, because I've survived for awhile and nothing has changed but I could just not be living long enough. One thought I have is that maybe we need to input a special code into the terminal in EVAL. That terminal is the only one I've ever seen where it doesn't let you preview a list of commands, or use any command other than ping. I think the reason is because they A. don't want you to list items and see the tons of items past 76 and B. don't want you to type commands and see the special command that lifts lockdown. Just a theory, but I think that a password for that terminal may be hidden in a log in some other level.

[burnt goblet]

@mossy cloak is the snatcher alarm in c1 an error after its done?

[worthy anvil]

is the snatcher a new enemy?

[burnt goblet]

yes

[worthy anvil]

haven't gotten too far into the game, so I have yet to see one

[atomic escarp]

C3 what exactly happens after the 10min timer

[burnt goblet]

nvm lol

[plush pelican]

What are you supposed to do in D1 overload?

[atomic escarp]

Anyone have a screenshot of the new monster that was added?

[errant vigil]

Which one

[atomic escarp]

There was more than one they added with the most recent update?

[worthy anvil]

the snatcher?

[errant vigil]

The new really dumb one in e1

[worthy anvil]

There's a new one in e1?

I only know about snatchers, are there more new enemies?

[errant vigil]

They added 2 and hinted at 2 somewhere

[worthy anvil]

oh damn

what's the other one?

[errant vigil]

PTank

[worthy anvil]

Is it like

a more difficult tank?

[atomic escarp]

Do you guys have a screenshot of it?

[azure heath]

Anyone know where to look for the collection case in B1? I've ran all over zone 93 and can't find anything

[worthy anvil]

handsomj1m I have an image of the snatcher

not the ptank tho

[hexed vapor]

D1 Overload is a head scratcher.

I didn't think it was, but now I've done it, and it is.

[night pebble]

If you find a terminal you can ping it

Mine was right by the door in

[azure heath]

Thank you so much. I had tried pinging it earlier but I think forgot to include the underscore

[coarse tide]

anyone know the name of the new enemy?

[sour tapir]

WCLdragon

[kind surge]

what's the difference?

it just seemed like a secondary room where all you need is a bulkhead key

and its down in a pit with scouts

does it change the level further on?

[errant vigil]

It’s definitely unfinished

There’s no way they want you to do the command after main

[kind surge]

i'm confused

[errant vigil]

Overload is a snatcher/jerry error with slight fog for the rest of the level

[kind surge]

for d1?

no it isnt

[errant vigil]

But you get the bulkhead key in the same room

[kind surge]

overload is right at the start

[errant vigil]

Yes

[kind surge]

there is no error alarm blaring

and i didn't see a single jerry

[hexed vapor]

Yes, there is, if you actually put in the command.

[errant vigil]

I saw 3

[kind surge]

what command

[errant vigil]

With no error sound

[kind surge]

there is no commands for overload.

hud just says to go get the key

[errant vigil]

You’re wrong

I had not hud

[hexed vapor]

What baffles me is that people enter Overload, don't see any objective in the top left, and just say "yeah, that seems about right."

[errant vigil]

We check terminals for commands

[hexed vapor]

Obviously, it's not working correctly.

[kind surge]

ah so your just calling me stupid

[burnt goblet]

litterally says "get bulkhead key" and thats it

[kind surge]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[burnt goblet]

but ill try the command next time i guess

its probably broken atm

[errant vigil]

Must be different then for each run

Ray and I seem to have had nothing and a command on a terminal in overload

[kind surge]

its not. i literally was just in there

was going in to see what it was about before going to lfg

[hexed vapor]

Top left, nothing

Press O, nothing

[kind surge]

ony "go get bulkhead key"

nothing about an objective other than that.

nothing.

[hexed vapor]

Yes.

That's not normal

[lilac leaf]

Do you guys like the thermal sight guns?

[errant vigil]

Ok either way it’s unfinished that my main problem with it

[kind surge]

PDW new favorite primary

[tulip nacelle]

do any of you guys know about the one ballsack in a glass case in dx, its past the scout playground. it was also in d4,

do you guys know if its in this rundown too

[hexed vapor]

It's buggy, and doesn't actually increase the difficulty like it's supposed to .

[lilac leaf]

someone on reddit was hardcore complaining about the sight causing motion sickness lol

its fine for me so far

[kind surge]

i love it. it's completely replaced the need for biotracker.

useless tool is useless

can see shadows with it too

even when not using it, can hot swap to it with keyboard

just to see the scope

literally a biotracker built into primary

it's nutty

shame the secondary drekker rifle is bad tho

the scope hard carries

otherwise it's just a standard SMG

like the van auken

[kind surge]

it's the power of thermals baby.

[timid geyser]

For anyone looking into how to access Zone 76 in EVAL: I can confirm that the door is still in lockdown 7 minutes after starting the final error alarm... I'm not skilled enough to try and survive any longer than that solo but I may be barking down the wrong tree thinking the door will unlock after surviving X amount of time, the answer is probably something deeper and more convoluted.

[daring pilot]

Just did the C1 S scan without realizing we could drop the fog

:3

[hexed vapor]

Just attempted D2, are the markers supposed to be rerolling every game?

[sullen hornet]

||God damn, the endless wave on C1 really took me and my team by surprise||

[errant vigil]

The terminals? Yes, we had them reroll at least

[humble dagger]

So uh
about the E level new enemy variant

||WHY THE FUCK IS THERE AN IMORTAL TANK||

[hexed vapor]

It's a bit tongue in cheek, it's possible they wanted that to happen but chances are they fucked up some distribution and now it's fucking with all of the markers everywhere.

Same as R5B2.

[errant vigil]

We thought the level just didn’t load properly our first attempt, completely ignored Schaffer and couldn’t find the Trojan cause of bug

[hexed vapor]

It seems to reroll every time.

Probably because those zones have like 50 ammo or some shit.

I've seen at least 3 marker seed offsets

[errant vigil]

Neat concept terrible ending

[hexed vapor]

How's it end?

[errant vigil]

I assume you don’t care about spoilers

[hexed vapor]

We decided to log off after not really having the time to learn 10 zone layouts.

Not at all.

[errant vigil]

You run back through everything

So if you went to mom zone you get moms on the way back or tank if other zone

[hexed vapor]

huh

[errant vigil]

Waves enemies change depending on which zone you go to

Is neat

Moms just lag for completion

Tank just distract for spawn cap

[hexed vapor]

Jesus.

D-tier seems like an unpolished mess.

[errant vigil]

Feels like a modded level

Bad balance

[hexed vapor]

Yeah, literally FE1

[errant vigil]

But no broken guns really

[hexed vapor]

Which isn't good, because I kind of hate FE.

[errant vigil]

Yea it’s not GTFO

But it is now

[hexed vapor]

C3 had a similar vibe tbh, but at least C3 was actually good.

Didn't overplay its gimmick either and transitioned to CX Sec but actually hard.

[quasi citrus]

is it possible to open the locked security door in the evaluation expedition?

i don't really get why that is funny

[craggy crane]

No knowledge of if it opens or not

as of right now

[quasi citrus]

I was just wondering if there was like a secret behind it or something like that

[craggy crane]

no idea yet

give it a day or 2

[hollow fox]

Is E1 locked until you beat every level or is it just locked even afterwards?

[hexed vapor]

How is E1 anyway?

Worth playing?

[humble dagger]

the tank variant is comical

[hexed vapor]

Ugh

[humble dagger]

basically

its going to be the hardest shit to do it solo cause might be wrong bnut uh

||its a tank without weak spots||

[hexed vapor]

||How much time do you have to spend keeping it busy, and is it actually any fun or is R4E1 2/2 split a better use of my time?||

[humble dagger]

||its unkillable due to vulnerabilities being gone but slow||

[hexed vapor]

How long is the level, and how much of it is taken up by this existing?

[humble dagger]

Dont know but main objective is non existent on your hud so you gotta figure it out by a few letters

and like as long as you just have one dude on duty you'll be fine

[hexed vapor]

I mean, this sounds like respawn blocking.

[storm yoke]

what should the C1 snatcher alarm past the apex door be? It seems like an error after the scan.

[hexed vapor]

Ultra boring.

[humble dagger]

well to you it might

but its fun so

[hexed vapor]

I mean, you're not really selling it to me at all.

It's just "one guy stands back for 2 hrs"

[errant vigil]

one guy afks watching youtube while breaking PTank AI Poggers

[next rapids]

for real?

[humble dagger]

||Black spike grey tank||

[next rapids]

oooo

sounds exciting

[next rapids]

wait it legit can't take damage at all?

[humble dagger]

It doesn't have its tumors

so

[next rapids]

wow

[humble dagger]

GaAGH- "gUYS. dONT PanIC bUT"

[next rapids]

XD

[frail zinc]

[pearl tartan]

or the easiest depending on how deep you want to go down the bug / cheese abusing path.

cough cough cfoam door bug cough cough

[frail zinc]

so how many bugs do we have so far.
Yes.

[pearl tartan]

I imagine solo you can just long kite it, but ig u can just cfoam glitch the tank door and then don't even hv to deal with it at all

depends how much u want to abuse bugs as a solo player

since u already have giant kiting and what not

spawn cap abuse etc

[humble dagger]

Okay but invinc roaming enemy tho

Easy job but if the kiter messes up

[pearl tartan]

okay but just cfoam glitch the door then it can't get out

[next rapids]

bru

[frail zinc]

but where is the fun in that

[next rapids]

where fun

[pearl tartan]

ye, but like I said, depends how far the solo player wants to take it

[humble dagger]

Well solo in a coop game cringe

[pearl tartan]

lmao

[humble dagger]

Its an E level

[frail zinc]

i do enjoy b1 showing you the game state at parts of the level tho

[pearl tartan]

however people want to beat the game is up to them I'm just stating options that exist

[frail zinc]

[humble dagger]

Honestly though I imagine whoever is kiting the tank can be charged once and get mauled
Meanwhile everyone else is in a hybrid /snatcher room as they hear their friend go “So I goofed”

[pearl tartan]

classic

[humble dagger]

Meanwhile Rhino from spider man charges in and breaks the door down

[frail zinc]

you dont say anything and wait for the screams of pure anger and panic

[humble dagger]

“GaaGH”

[pearl tartan]

u still gotta do the full team scans tho so i imagine it's still just long kite for each of those

[humble dagger]

“Who was that”

Main objective during it is a reactor mission p sure

Not fully certain

Cause the whole main objective hud is fucked ingame

[pearl tartan]

||After u get key from tank room u open locked door and I think inside is chargers then a alarm which has purple full team scans mixed with cluster so...||

[humble dagger]

E level moment

Could also be a way to kill the tank after reactor is turned on

[pearl tartan]

idk didn't play much of it just poked around

on a side note does anyone know if its possible to dodge a snatchers grab attack similar to sidestepping striker tongues etc

[humble dagger]

But still the idea that the entire mission relys on the b hopper at spawn is just funny to me

Parry 4head

Ive seen footage of them and the closest they get is somehow they repel the snatcher

It could be due to so many people being bundled but

[pearl tartan]

from what I've tested they turn when they stagger / take too much damage

so could just be thay

I'm just wondering if it's possible to just dodge the grab

everything else in the game seems dodgeable so why not kekw

[humble dagger]

Watch the counter be a fully charged melee

Like the payday 2 cloaker perk

[pearl tartan]

during grab animation u can't perform any actions your like paralysed so idk + their range definitely out does your melee

maybe spear ig??

[frail zinc]

kamikaze with mines

[pearl tartan]

more testing required moment

[pearl tartan]

lmao probably valid since it'll just stagger it

[frail zinc]

kamikaze is always a valid option

[humble dagger]

Do other enemies block the grab

[pearl tartan]

I don't think so

[humble dagger]

Cringe

[frail zinc]

gotta wait like 2 weeks before my a team realises there is a new rundown

[pearl tartan]

snatchers are either pretty nice run savers as they reposition u to potential safety in a pinch or just hyper annoying undodgable bastards that stop u from completing ur alarm scan

[frail zinc]

100% way to abuse them

[tacit cairn]

Or they do this to you

[frail zinc]

off to the shadow realm

[pearl tartan]

or that, true

[wide fog]

the ravagers (aka pouncers) that grab you are pretty buggy and pretty annoying. the only way to stop their grab is to kill them or be out of range

it'd be cool if you could scare them off with heavy damage like a shotgun blast

[frail zinc]

roll a d20 to see if they miss

[pearl tartan]

you can shoot above their heads (so their backs) with some big damage guns and they stagger and turn around quite quickly

[pearl tartan]

by out of range do you mean it's... dodgeable??

[storm yoke]

is there a consistent way to kill snatchers?

[pearl tartan]

atleast I hope so :p

[humble dagger]

Nah I got portent and I rolled a 2 this morning I got this

[wide fog]

if you get into a position where they can't reach you then you're fine

like on a cliff where only a striker couldn't reach you

[pearl tartan]

they are just tanky but ig just shoot their backs you can hit their backs while they face u since they crawl just shoot above their heads at their tentacles. you can also shoot their front when they expose it to grab you

[pearl tartan]

ah I see

[frail zinc]

aight gn homies

[inland stump]

d2 217 tank 216 p mom both terminal at b

[next rapids]

💀 💀

[inland stump]

stealth of kill 2 tanks with c foam granade

or idk fuck

[lilac leaf]

bro me and my team keep failing on b1 we suck lmao

[heady python]

What's c2 extreme/overload?

[upbeat rover]

c2 overload consists of osips to collect in charger zones, half the objective you need to do with the fog error alarm for power cells 3&4

there's also a class 6 m alarm with flyers and a giant meatball

[hallow lark]

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! THE FUCK IS THAT THING IN C1?!

[lucid moon]

Snatcher

[hallow lark]

Is it killable?

[lucid moon]

Probably)

[hallow lark]

.....

Shit

[brazen hollow]

It dies v quickly

And can be staggered

[hallow lark]

I haven’t been able to kill it?!

It just gets staggered and runs away

[brazen hollow]

Spray harder

Ig

[hallow lark]

I don’t have HAR. I only have the DMR and precision rifle

[brazen hollow]

Them being so mobile is def a problem I understand that so maybe heavy hitters would work better

I use shotgun and hi cal

Tho I think hel shotgun is a bit sad

[hallow lark]

And I definitely crapped my pants on that snatchers

[hearty escarp]

Do the thermal sights see shadow enemies?

[orchid oasis]

at the end of b1 ||when the flying meatballs spawn|| can you finish that wave then start the ||T Scan?|| Or do the normal enemies spawn anyway

[hallow lark]

Gah! Fuck!i

I almost had it! The goddamn... fucking...

[spark nest]

||ahhhhh this game scarry||

[hallow lark]

No shit!

That damn new monster is scary as hell!

[grand oriole]

has anyone done d1 extreme

[sharp merlin]

Nope because it doesnt exist

[grand oriole]

overload

[sharp merlin]

Yep

Its very buggd

[grand oriole]

you done it?

we just spent 5 hours on d1 main

[sharp merlin]

i can send someone else vod too

if that helps

[grand oriole]

we've just finished

i wanted to ask

at the end, when you open extraction theres lockers

[sharp merlin]

Overload is highkey broken tbh

[grand oriole]

do you take the resourses then run all the way back to spawn the dogs

cus no way would you be able to do it with dogs from the start

[sharp merlin]

Yeah

[torn path]

Once you turn on air filtration in bulkhead room it spawns error wakes of two snatchers and thats the overload

[sharp merlin]

At the end go all the way back

[torn path]

waves

[grand oriole]

only 2 waves?

[torn path]

constant'

[grand oriole]

i thought it was non stop

[sharp merlin]

its kinda pooped

[grand oriole]

yes constant

[torn path]

it is

yes

[grand oriole]

but we did all, and i was wondering if at the end when youre about to extract you could just run back

[torn path]

you could tbh we just didnt think about it because we wanted to get out lmao

[sharp merlin]

You can do that

[grand oriole]

welp looks like were gona have to do it all over again

[torn path]

lol I will later later on cx

[hallow lark]

Got it!

That son of a bitch!

Holy shit!

[grand oriole]

what one

[hallow lark]

What a fricking nightmare

C1 finished

[earnest ferry]

someone seen this in B1?

🤔

[hearty escarp]

yes

[earnest ferry]

lol

[hearty escarp]

we were able to open it with a lock melter

[earnest ferry]

ohh that's why we cannot open with bare hand

i see

[hearty escarp]

Which level contains this new scary enemy y'all are talking about (no spoilers on what the enemy actually is, please, just trying to figure out if it's later in C1 or if I have to get to D1)

[hallow lark]

It’s in ||C1|| be prepared

[hearty escarp]

thx ❤️

[hallow lark]

GFL (Good Fucking Luck)

[mossy yoke]

So anyone beat e1 yet?

[hallow lark]

I’m scared right now

I pissed my pants in C1

[safe siren]

Someone donate him some fresh pants pls

[hallow lark]

Thx

[mossy marsh]

Tried to survive the threat at the tutorial extraction

I didn't

I also managed to pick something from a closed box

[brazen hollow]

Doc unrelated but will we get a fix to subtitles during the rundown

The desync is very much annoying

[daring pilot]

C1 beat my friends and I up

so we settled for 3 levels for the night by beating B2 secondary

this rundown's really fun

[storm yoke]

what is the secondary for b2?

[half panther]

C1 is wild dude

I somehow got it done in one attempt last night

[storm yoke]

legend

[half panther]

Apparently the rest of the lobby had either already completed it or had been trying all night to but we breezed through it in about an hour

[topaz drift]

i think the intended way is to go overload then go error to turn off both error alarms

or doesit count as an alarm?

[atomic escarp]

was gonna do C1 but game breaking bug

[hybrid ingot]

Is it just me or is the HEL shotgun like really bad?

[wary olive]

is it just me or does DMR now have that cancerous slow sway before getting on target when you switch to it and ADS

or was that always there

[hybrid ingot]

Like if you had a tight corridor I could see the HEL shotgun being good but it just doesn't have enough ammo or damage to really do much normally

[jolly perch]

Yeah it's good for tight spaces but other than that

I think it needs a bit more range tbh

[errant vigil]

yes

You can one shot them with other weapons too

Ping gives way where their head is

Really not that bad, they only trivialize shadow scouts but not charger scouts, other weapons do that better

[granite sail]

d2 ending is

absolute

also is e1 like not available or som or what r the requirements

[errant vigil]

all mains

[granite sail]

thanks homie

makes sense

[crimson mural]

hey um I need some help

What does schaeffer say at a1?

I kinda wasn't paying any attention

[wheat halo]

when you first approach the door?

he asks you to put in the command recycle_group_7a42 in a terminal, I cant remember on the top of my head the exact zone number but it's not the one next to the door where he starts talking, it's the one in the dark redish room

If that's what you mean

[modern axle]

You can type REC and then use tab to auto complete I think

[crimson mural]

Tried doing that at first but nothing came up

[wheat halo]

it should also appear under the commands list

[crimson mural]

nope

[wheat halo]

huh weird

It's not the terminal next to the door right?

[crimson mural]

It's the one closest to the door yes

[wheat halo]

Nah I got confused by that too, he's asking to put it in the terminal from the door ahead of that terminal I can't remember the zone number on the top of my head but the room should be reddish and have a window looking out to hydrostasis units

[crimson mural]

omfg i thought that door was still on lockdown

mb mb

Thanks

[wheat halo]

Yeah no problem!!

[brisk wraith]

GTFO ||vore|| is real lmao

[atomic escarp]

is it just me or is hand cannon fucking BEAST

[hybrid ingot]

New favorite gun

[atomic escarp]

same

[hybrid ingot]

The kickback isn't even that bad

Because by the time you can shoot again it's already stabilized

[atomic escarp]

I love it so much

[hybrid ingot]

Same

Just delete little guys that come for you and 2-4 shot the big guys

[atomic escarp]

I wanted it to one shot bigs but being real that would be way too OP

[hybrid ingot]

Yeah

Sadly can't one shot even with an occiput shot

[atomic escarp]

a followup shot to the back will kill it tho

[hybrid ingot]

Can 2 shot big guys if the first shot is a headshot I'm pretty sure tho

Yeah

[atomic escarp]

1 occiput+1 back

let me check for big shooters

[hybrid ingot]

Right that's how I 2 tapped one

It does 30 damage right?

Fucking insane

I'm currently rocking it and the PDW

Might swap the PDW back out for the pistol though

[atomic escarp]

@hybrid ingot 149.45252 this is how much damage 1 occiput+1 back does to a big shooter. they have 150 hp

[hybrid ingot]

God damnit

[atomic escarp]

that has to be deliberate

[hybrid ingot]

Shoot twice then slap them with your melee

Still a fucking beast of a gun though

[atomic escarp]

100%

I think sniper is in a good spot now

[hybrid ingot]

How much damage does the hand cannon do?

I wanna say my testing gave 60 FF damage so it's 30 right?

It's 10 damage off from the sniper while having way more ammo

I guess the benefit of the sniper is the range and scope

[atomic escarp]

30.1

[hybrid ingot]

So yeah

[atomic escarp]

BUT

[hybrid ingot]

10 less than the sniper

[atomic escarp]

sniper has 2.0025 crit
HC has 0.7413 crit

[hybrid ingot]

Damn

Makes back shots barely worth it

[atomic escarp]

back isnt a crit

only head

[hybrid ingot]

Really?

[atomic escarp]

yah

[hybrid ingot]

I thought the multiplier still applied

[atomic escarp]

precision multiplier only counts for head and occiput

[hybrid ingot]

Didn't know

Makes calculating stuff with chargers a good bit easier

Headshoting big guys with the HC really doesn't help much

Only ~2 more damage

[atomic escarp]

it will take a limb/head off tho which staggers them

[hybrid ingot]

True

HC is just a better HEL gun

I guess no blow through tho

[atomic escarp]

HC might be a better shotgun

also yeah pre sure only HEL guns pierce

[dreamy bramble]

ammo economy tho

[hollow ledge]

Hey did anyone do D1? Couldnt find the terminal to shut of the alarm

[austere dagger]

Did it say terminal 192?

[candid dragon]

So, what, hc has better economy vs chargers?

[dreamy bramble]

pretty sure it gets less shots than the choke

[candid dragon]

Do we have the wep damage spreadsheet ready yet?

[kind swan]

Does HC one or two shot chargers?

[atomic escarp]

one shot within 8 meters

and much further to the back

[tulip nacelle]

in c1 can you turn on the ventilation before doing the s scan

or not

[supple ocean]

I just finished c1, what other levels have grabbers?

[atomic escarp]

iirc yes

[kind swan]

I love C1 checkpoint bugs

Two of our teammates got stuck with cells

[atomic escarp]

happened to me last night

not sure if it will work but try dropping cells before activating the cp scan

[stable pivot]

Just completed B2 secondary & main with bots - and I didn't even bring a biotracker or a weapon with a thermal sight.

[atomic escarp]

wow you're so good at the game

[sharp merlin]

Do you need a medal?

[next rapids]

pls give him a medal

what a pro

[atomic escarp]

half the time bots are better than new players

maybe more than half

they're a bit stupid but atleast they aim good and don't wake shit up

[rapid cedar]

Fuck pouncers

Are they supposed to make you pick up your sentry as they grab you?

[next rapids]

apparently yes

[rapid cedar]

That's bullshit

[next rapids]

it looks like you technically get sent to another dimension when you get snatched

that's why the sentry comes with you

same as when you pickup a data cube

[rapid cedar]

I seriously hope that's a bug

And if it is, then HOPEFULLY it will get patched soon

[next rapids]

hehe

bug

patch

:troll:

[rapid cedar]

🗿

[tiny cloak]

what did schaeffer call the box in b1?

like hydroliquid conteiner

[surreal hawk]

omg!!!! no booster clear

im shaking

[atomic escarp]

chad

how hard is it compared to r6

[surreal hawk]

r6 is the easiest rundown

good for new player

[atomic escarp]

I know

[next rapids]

how hard is E1? OwO

[atomic escarp]

and all the vets were craving a hard rundown

[surreal hawk]

except some level design is shit

[atomic escarp]

did they get it?

[surreal hawk]

R7 resource balance is good

no ammo left in E1 no booster

god damm hard

[next rapids]

holy shit

[mossy yoke]

y'all still trying to beat e1?

[atomic escarp]

he beat it

[surreal hawk]

R7 is clear now

[next rapids]

cleared lol

[surreal hawk]

time to have a rest

[atomic escarp]

have you slept yet?

[surreal hawk]

5hrs

[atomic escarp]

grats on beating the rundown in less than a day

[surreal hawk]

imagine B3 is the last level we cleared before E1

rip R7

[mossy yoke]

how many hours did you spend trying to beat e1?

congrats on the clear btw

[surreal hawk]

we tried 4 runs, 3hours so far

[next rapids]

congratz

[atomic escarp]

wicked

[next rapids]

3 hours

cracked

[mossy yoke]

3 hours for the total level time of the successful run, or 3 hours including all failed attempts?

[next rapids]

i think he meant 3 hours for a total of 4 tries including successful run

[turbid cliff]

Seems total

[surreal hawk]

yes，4runs in total

[next rapids]

chad

[zinc barn]

E1 solo video when

[atomic escarp]

someones gonna do it

[surreal hawk]

are we first E1 clear?

[next rapids]

probably

[distant chasm]

yh by the looks of it

[zinc barn]

Maybe not the first attempters

[distant chasm]

how do you even unlock e1 because it doesnt say

[atomic escarp]

prob beat D1

[next rapids]

D1

[mossy yoke]

@atomic escarp@next rapids you need to complete the main sector of all 9 other expeditions (eval doesn't count)

[atomic escarp]

thanks

[next rapids]

oo

[distant chasm]

ok

why does c3 have to have ||charger scouts||

[brazen hollow]

Does hi cal ohko those

[distant chasm]

is it intentional to be able to get ||ammo on start|| from boosters in c3?

[surreal hawk]

3 2 1 charge and 3 2 1 go time

[distant chasm]

bring ||+ammo boosters for c3 and you will get ammo||

[tiny cloak]

do bioscan speed boosters affect the moving ones?

[next rapids]

yes

[tiny cloak]

epic

[halcyon geyser]

Can you access the other security door in eval?

[distant chasm]

i do not know

[halcyon geyser]

thanks me neither

[distant chasm]

dear god

[round lance]

holy fuck this was aids (in a good way)

[distant chasm]

so uhhh i found a checkpoint bug

its just visual

[dark oak]

OMG, I found some bug at the end of the expedition. it's B1

[distant chasm]

when the neonate clips thru the depressurizer

[round lance]

i think we wouldn't have been able to do it without ||one person having 100% infection resist, that sped up the retries a ton||

also went in blind so maybe with better prep/loadouts that probably wouldn't be necessary

[mossy yoke]

yes

[mossy yoke]

you don't want to go in that zone 😉

[halcyon geyser]

🙄 ok

I already imagined it would be a way to detect cheaters xD

or you have to use a very specific command on the console

[dreamy bramble]

in c2 does the last ventilation initiation not cause an error?

the first one only raises fog, the second is fog+error, but our run bugged out before the third

[hexed vapor]

It doesn't, seems to be the best strat for Overload despite lower visibility.

[dreamy bramble]

that sounds so much more managable than the route we did lol

flyer error + 1 hp cap is so annoying

[hexed vapor]

Seems like the play is to get the bulkhead key for 2 cells, open Overload and clear before 4 cells, and then actually complete Overload for 6 cells.

[dreamy bramble]

yeah that's what i was thinking

[mighty quest]

||Open both doors in C1 if you like having fun||

[atomic escarp]

can the glps be behind either door

in c1

or only a specific one

or both

[dreamy bramble]

i think every zone has 3 so you can't softlock

[flat scarab]

whats the overload in d1 do? stuck on it with someone rn

[dreamy bramble]

spawns 2 snatchers every few minutes

though it's extremely buggy and can spawn up to 4 at a time in my experience

[atomic escarp]

we found 8 behind one of the doors, does the other door just have none?

[dreamy bramble]

8 glps in a single zone?

[atomic escarp]

no

like

theres 2 doors powered by generators that lead to other zones

which one leads to the 9 glps

[dreamy bramble]

i dont think it matters which door you take

each door besides the initial cell door has 3 glps

[atomic escarp]

so the glps spawn once you select one of the 2 doors?

[dreamy bramble]

no

they're in the rooms

just pick them up?

[atomic escarp]

so both doors lead to the same area?

[broken zinc]

Damn D2 is fun, finally a hard level thats fun to grind

[sharp merlin]

Do you guys reckon its inteded D1 Overload should be completed at start

But it is easily.. not done.. from the start?

[hexed vapor]

It very clearly is meant to be active for the whole level.

It seems like it's designed to force you to take a harder path.

Doesn't seem like it's actually finished.

I hope they rework it.

[sharp merlin]

So weird, normally in these cases with error:
1: Bulkhead key is behind another door (R4B2 ext)
2: The error is substantially harder (R4D2), making the backtrack cancer

It is just awkward if they have to change level layout

And people who have cleared it now will feel invalidated, lose lose

Fixed: - Bug where R7D1 Overload could be skipped

[hexed vapor]

Hey, fuck them, they didn't even do anything.

[sharp merlin]

Hahah

Even worse its "Overload" aas opposed to secondary

[hexed vapor]

The layout might be fine tbh, because I think Overload generates after Main (and so it shouldn't off-set the markers for the rest of the expedition).

[sharp merlin]

As long as the zone you add its branching off a place, it should be fine

I believe the Overload zone has space East and South, so adding maybe a dead end Garden geomorph should be a really easy fix

[hexed vapor]

^

[sharp merlin]

Also, told Calle a bit ago, he said he would pass on my questionn

[brazen hollow]

We did this cuz we didnt know what to do with cells

Then we had to 3 man def while 4th searched

[sharp merlin]

There's like 6 different zones with 3 GLPs in each one

And you have like 3 cells to go into 3 diferent zones

[mighty quest]

Same, btw don't use check points the hack locks and terminals get broken

[sharp merlin]

so anyway is intended

[mighty quest]

you're better off restarting

I found 7/9 last night with my friend while we were playing the mission with bots

boy 4 was manageable...but he accidently plugged her in and we thought we soft locked ourselves on accident.

[sharp merlin]

Take you time on the first zone with GLP... can hammer...

Really 3rd zone is just very tense/ 1 guy search, hold maybe Cfoam mine wave..

[mellow creek]

holyshit d2 is havoc

24mins of pure actions lolol

[hearty escarp]

No spoilers please, but how many new enemies total are there? Is the new one in C1 the only one or is there more?

[mellow creek]

so far only saw 1

im left w e

no idea whats there yet

and have u guys realise the chargers and shadows are...... spawning in broad daylights now

evolutions?

[dreamy bramble]

i believe there's 2 but i haven't seen the second one yet

[hexed vapor]

Wym?

[dark bane]

pushes glasses historically they should only spawn in dark damp places of the hell hole known as the complex

[hexed vapor]

They're spawning in the desert?

[dark bane]

no clue lmao ive only gotten to c1

though you would think spawning shadows in broad daylight would just make them worse normal enemies

since logically you should be able to see em just fine w/o light

too bad the game doesn't work like that

[urban swan]

C1 is good I got to extraction and then got surrounded

At 84 percent

[atomic escarp]

hey so in C1 how do you know which set of doors the glps will spawn behind

[kind swan]

You hope

And cope

I've heard earlier each door might have like 3 glps?

[kind swan]

This

Forgot to take off the @ rip

[atomic escarp]

well we found 8 behind one set of doors

[kind swan]

Yeh it's possible

idk how them stuffs works so yer

My friends and I have been getting weird bugs with doors

[atomic escarp]

so if the 9th wasnt in there, would we have had to potentially search the entirety of the other set of doors?

[kind swan]

Sentries shooting through them
Not being able to cfoam them
Cfoam going straight through the door. Enemies trying to attack us through the door

[atomic escarp]

theres a bug where if you start a cp and someones holding a cell they can't drop it upon respawning at that cp

[kind swan]

That's always been a thing with checkpoints

Mostly with fog turbines in R6

[atomic escarp]

oh

rip

hope they actually fix that

[kind swan]

Ye

[atomic escarp]

hope they actually fix all the bugs

[kind swan]

I had it happen but to 2 people stuck holding cells

Depositing the cells doesnt take it out of your hands either

[atomic escarp]

the workaround for now is drop the cells before pulling the cp door

[kind swan]

They fixed several bugs but also some still broken while also creating new ones

[atomic escarp]

happens

[kind swan]

The other problem is that steam hasn't exactly been stable the last week or so here and there

[atomic escarp]

[kind swan]

A lot of reports of failing to connect and etc.

[pulsar zodiac]

I love C2 extreme

[kind swan]

Meanwhile my friend at the end of B1 picking up the neonate baby

[west umbra]

How is E1 unlocked?

[kind swan]

"What the fuck is this ugly abomination"

[pulsar zodiac]

all mains it seems

[kind swan]

Is E1 actually "Fun" though?

[west umbra]

so you complete all the main missions?

[kind swan]

Yes

[pulsar zodiac]

yese

[west umbra]

ah ty

[kind swan]

(Off topic but didnt realize ur pfp was from elsword for a moment @pulsar zodiac)

[lunar ruin]

I’m sure it’s been asked already but did anyone else have problems with after going to a cp on C1 one player not be able to interact with anything? No terminals, no boxes, no cells, nothing

[kind swan]

That's a variation of the cp item carrying bug

[lunar ruin]

I see, I don’t believe he was carrying anything

[kind swan]

That person is carrying a cell but also able to shoot and and stuff but not interact with anything

It doesnt appear they are

The cell might be on their back

Or just doesnt show at all

That version of the bug is more rare but at least they can still shoot and stuff

[lunar ruin]

Ok gotcha, and that can happen even if they aren’t actively holding a cell? Cuz we were fighting when we died

[kind swan]

I dont think they can?

Previously this happened with turbines

Not cells so I'm not sure

I do know depositing the cells doesnt remove this bug either

[lunar ruin]

Yea he could shoot and place mines but we had to abandon the run cuz we were only 2 ppl with bots and only having 1 person able to play the game wasn’t gonna work

[kind swan]

Your best bet is dropping the cells before even starting the checkpoint scans. Dont touch the door at all until all the carry items are dropped and then you pray

[lunar ruin]

Yea I’ll keep that in mind when we get the squad on

I figured I should ask to see cuz if it happens again we gonna have to abandon again

[kind swan]

Yeah I've had the bug but 2 people carrying undropable cells

[lunar ruin]

Yea, I was fine but he was y

Wasn’t

[kind swan]

It's iffy

Anyhow I have to work with society because that gives me money

[lunar ruin]

I also have to go to work rn lol

Ty for info

[kind swan]

Np

[pulsar zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/no-yes-giga-chad-giga-chad-gif-23156898

[atomic escarp]

oh this channel has imbed perms nice

[kind swan]

Use them wisely or that privilege is taken

[past igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-gtfo-meme-gtfo-the-game-hop-on-hop-on-gtfo-gif-24474176

[marble yarrow]

||21 headgears
13 torsos
13 legs
14 backpacks
19 palettes||
number of cosmetics so far as of r7

[atomic escarp]

what in gods name does the collection box looks like

hey ummmm so yknow how there was a random pool of cosmetics in r6 and you couldn't get all of them, they've persisted into r7 and I'm wondering if any more were added or if you can now obtain all of them

[polar sphinx]

||WHY ARE YOU A SHY RESOURCE BOX||

[obsidian thistle]

Does anyone know if there's a bug in A1?
i cant continue after at zone 49

i pinged the NCR but when i walked up there nothing happened

[sharp wave]

You gotta bring the neonate hsu given to you at the start of the level and bring it to the NCR

[tropic ermine]

Ramirez, put the baby in the juicer

[obsidian thistle]

ah got it so i was stupid thanks

it surprisingly work lol

[near sequoia]

pubes are soo nice v

[crisp forge]

C1 ending was fun

[mossy marsh]

in rundown 96

[quiet moth]

How should i react against the new enemy? does the long range flash lights make him run away?

[half panther]

Offer him the souls of the innocent

[vast turret]

ay mate been thinking the same thing

100 need a mod in the future

[past igloo]

From what I've observed in my two runs of C1, the guy will stay back and be elusive before beelining for your team

Although I've managed to repel it once and make it run away again

Don't know how though

[pliant shard]

im more of a big shooter kinda guy

[past igloo]

The general strategy my team did when I passed C1 was to sit in the back of the room and basically play FNAF with the snatchers

[crisp forge]

dumping a full mag of the hel shotgun into their back also works

[quiet moth]

Shaffer said something about the lights , i don't know if the monster only patrols dark rooms

[grave timber]

my friend got grabbed as the snatcher died and well

[deep jackal]

can we ||softlock ourselves in c1 by putting cells in both the cells to 14 and 17||

[past igloo]

As in like, one cell to 14 and one to 17?

[grave timber]

i dont think so

[next rapids]

LOL

[past igloo]

Cause the level doesn’t care where you get the GLPs from as long as you get 9

Best make sure which GLPs are in which rooms though first

I’m not sure if it varies but on my run we got an even split of 3 per room (on both 14 and 17 sides)

[deep jackal]

yes

aight got it

theres 3 in each room

[past igloo]

Yep

What my team did since we only had one cell left was to go to 17 and 18, then backtrack and get the rest from 14

[atomic escarp]

@past igloo so theres more than 9?

[past igloo]

Yes, 18

[atomic escarp]

9 behind each set of doors

Nice

Thank you

[past igloo]

Mhm

[atomic escarp]

This answers my earlier question that no one else was able to answer

Also cute pfp

[past igloo]

:D thank

[west crow]

what exactly is the pouncer's precision point?

[polar sphinx]

pretty sure its the chest when it opens up

[atomic escarp]

Hey in c1 do the waves pickup the more glps you grab?

Or do they increase over time

[hollow bramble]

in c1 is the protocol unlimited waves ?

[atomic escarp]

Theres infinite wave until you grab all the glps

[hollow bramble]

sorry i was asking a different question its something after the glps

[atomic escarp]

Oh rip sorry

[hollow bramble]

for the glps i think they do increase over time but i think its standard wave increase

[hexed vapor]

Pretty sure it's based on opening zones.

4 enemies per.

[mint gulch]

imagine fighting 6+ grabbers in C1 and unlimited waves

[sinful maple]

is the new creature in C1

[dark bane]

yes

[sinful maple]

zone?

[burnt goblet]

not until the end, during the final alarm

[sinful maple]

is it the same thing we hear take madox's body?

[hollow crane]

most likely yes

[burnt goblet]

yeah probably

[sinful maple]

also the patch notes said a kind of new variation of a creature as well. what they talking about there?

[jolly perch]

||an immortal version of an enemy||

[sinful maple]

cap

[pulsar zodiac]

immortal concept is never fun for me

[jolly perch]

Not cap; it's in e1

[sinful maple]

why is it a thing... do you just run?

[hollow crane]

oh? Deadass?

[jolly perch]

Dunno how it works but I'd imagine you run

All I know is they announced there's an ||immortal|| enemy and that people have said a new enemy is in e1

[pulsar zodiac]

have one person 24/7 luring it

the class V alarm is not hard with immortal

[tribal sparrow]

is b2 bugged as shit

[craggy flame]

I do not mind an Immortal if the implementation is good, but this is just a variation. Like 🤷‍♂️ Not the greatest thing ever.

[tribal sparrow]

matchmaking seems to not work on it, and when I solo it. Ive fallen through the floor in several places

[craggy flame]

have you restart your game? Maybe then it works. Have not experienced this issue, but I am also not using matchmaking.

[tribal sparrow]

Ill verify but I dont think that'll fix the maps

[echo forum]

holy fucking shit omg doing C1 with some friends for the first time and I got jumpscared into oblivion

[sinful maple]

what is class S?

[craggy flame]

Class S alarms are purple teamscans, which regress over time if one of the teammates is not standing in it.

[kind swan]

Or if one teammate is downed

[craggy flame]

I think the S stands for sustained?

but could be wrong

[real moss]

yes sustain alarm

[kind swan]

I prefer special (speshal*)

But sustained works

[tribal sparrow]

c1 ending dont got loot in the side rooms btw

for those tempted

[atomic escarp]

still got b3 to do so no c1 for me yet

[kind swan]

That won't stop me.

Also me

[tribal sparrow]

theres no lore either

stop fucking up the scan

[kind swan]

[obtuse surge]

new r7 scout variants that teleport into clients

[idle matrix]

Does the Drekker Del P1 one shot scouts/charger scouts?

[kind swan]

They should change that sticker to have a HC kekw

[kind swan]

Normal scouts to the head yes

Idk about chargers. Since no headshot bonuses

I dont think precision does enough damage to take out charger scouts even from behind

[idle matrix]

Thank you

[tribal sparrow]

chargers you need something like 15-20% with occiput

with spear

[kind swan]

Chargers dont have occiput lol

Chargers only have Back flank bonus (attacking from behind them in which the angle you attack them from matters)

[distant chasm]

fully charge sledge will kill a charger

(from the back)

[cosmic hull]

Hey all. Anyone work out if there is a secret to the eval? Behind the other security door?

[dark bane]

I'm assuming the error alarm in d1 gets rid of that class x alarm right

[distant chasm]

nope

[atomic escarp]

any tips for b3 overload?

[dark bane]

wat does the error alarm remove then

[pulsar zodiac]

it will remove the shadows Class X alarm

[dark bane]

is it worth it?

[crisp forge]

setup path to spawn before you walk into checkpoint room, setup turret in baby room and then go fast with cargo and drop at top of stairs when doing main

[sinful maple]

If tell my PC to sleep will my game save?

[kind swan]

Charger scouts. Not normal chargers

[crisp forge]

sniper backshot does

[distant chasm]

ok

[mossy marsh]

yes and no
as long as your game is not closed and you are the host the session will suspend alongside the computer

[kind swan]

The original question was for the precision rifle.

[crisp forge]

oh hell no then

[pulsar zodiac]

precision rifle 1.3 multi with 11 dmg I dont think it could one shot charger scouts

[kind swan]

Do we have spreadsheets yet?

[pulsar zodiac]

datamined

[kind swan]

Ah I see

[pulsar zodiac]

MTFO updated earlier

[kind swan]

11 dmg with 1.3x pres

[pulsar zodiac]

I expected it to be something like 2.0 or more

[kind swan]

No wonder it feels so underwhelming

Also do you happen to know High cal pistols?

That thing is just kinda dummy thicc

Pocket sniper

[pulsar zodiac]

yea its fun

deagle gaming

[mossy yoke]

Precision rifle has a specific role. It isn't underwhelming when used in the right scenarios

[coarse echo]

yes d0c if theres 1 enemy in front of me i can shoot them thank u

[mossy yoke]

You're welcome

[crisp forge]

its good wave clear in unclear scenarios

[meager sapphire]

if it hits it kills

[kind swan]

Specifically I dont like how many shots it takes to really take down giants

Smalls it's good but it's iffy when it comes to giants

[mossy yoke]

Have you tried using a different weapon to take down Giants?

[crisp forge]

good thing we have a full auto primary shotgun

[kind swan]

High cal pistol/s870/choke/sniper

[pulsar zodiac]

I would say precision rifle could be a decent option into birthers

[jolly perch]

you know what would be funny

[kind swan]

I also kind of just dont like Precision rifle because it reminds me of hel gun

[jolly perch]

if precision rifle's specific role was to be good

[kind swan]

[pulsar zodiac]

2 shots per tumor I think

[kind swan]

Tumors get precision bonus ye

11x1.3

I forget the tumor multi

[last crater]

I'm really confused about D1 overload

What are you supposed to do exactly

[pulsar zodiac]

D1 overload is terminal command

[turbid cliff]

precision rifle is a decent alternative to revolver from what i've seen

[kind swan]

Revo got a dmg buff didnt it?

[turbid cliff]

a bit yes

[kind swan]

Iirc it was wut

[turbid cliff]

neither of them are made for killing giants though

[kind swan]

12 beforee

[pulsar zodiac]

fog rise (non-infectious) and snatchers spawning

[jolly perch]

you have to go to the terminal and type in the special command (do "commands")

[pulsar zodiac]

you can go finish main first before doing the command

[last crater]

alr

because for some reason the overload objective is not displaying

[jolly perch]

yea its seemingly bugged

[turbid cliff]

12.21 to 14.21

pretty low precision though

[kind swan]

ye. It got a range nerf too

[turbid cliff]

rev? no

idk why patch notes say it did

but its damage falloff didn't change

rev 10.53 vs prifle 14.82 base damage on headshot

[burnt goblet]

its enough to one tap a scout to the head anywhere which is useful

[turbid cliff]

and somewhat better on weakspots in general

for non-smalls

[pulsar zodiac]

I could see precision rifle being great doing D2 password shadows zone