but i care more about the mechanics then the visuals
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
manic spire
devout river
oh shockers idk
potent silo
mb
silent kettle
charger scout bad
devout river
I like the big armored flyers but I agree base flyers are boring
potent silo
I actualled named the Shockers
manic spire
charger scout bad
The teamwork of double hammering is awesome though!
potent silo
Idk if ppl use it tho
manic spire
The teamwork of double hammering is awesome though!
Or it being a resource drain.
silent kettle
i guess
devout river
The teamwork of double hammering is awesome though!
as a person who mostly plays with bots this is why they are annoying
manic spire
Either way it's cool mechanically.
silent kettle
but he just moonwalks everywhere
devout river
good luck double hammering a scout with bots
silent kettle
and you sit and wait
manic spire
as a person who mostly plays with bots this is why they are annoying
Well i'm sorry but i like my teamwork and i want more of it.
potent silo
yes but you hit head and win
What
manic spire
good luck double hammering a scout with bots
i don't want you to have a bad time.
Buuut.
potent silo
Just huge an IIX syringe
manic spire
We either have cool teamwork or we don't ya know?
atomic escarp
bots are cool
devout river
Honestly idc about charger scouts I skipped all the ones in DX anyway
devout river
Just make bots at the very least good enough at coordinating to the point where they can kill big strikers consistently
Yes
atomic escarp
there are 3
devout river
Like 3
manic spire
Honestly idc about charger scouts I skipped all the ones in DX anyway
Cool. Ya know what. Have fun however you want as long as you don't try to make the game less teamwork focused for everyone who plays with people.
silent kettle
ok but half the enemies use teamwork to melee properly and charger scout is really lackluster in that aspect
manic spire
ok but half the enemies use teamwork to melee properly and charger scout is real...
Every other enemy can be soloed with hammer?
silent kettle
properly
manic spire
besides mother tank and b Charger
devout river
I can solo a tank with a hammer
potent silo
I can solo a tank with a hammer
Same lol
devout river
Put us in a room together and give me a hammer ez win
manic spire
I can solo a tank with a hammer
Haha i'd enjoy that.
silent kettle
if i put you in a room with 5 scouts youre not gonna solo hammer a hybrid even if you can
manic spire
Do it!
potent silo
You can solo hybrids?
manic spire
if i put you in a room with 5 scouts youre not gonna solo hammer a hybrid even i...
i guess i don't see the problem.
potent silo
Ive done it before
gleaming cedar
even easier with bat
devout river
if i put you in a room with 5 scouts youre not gonna solo hammer a hybrid even i...
I would kill the 5 scouts and then solo hammer the hybrid
silent kettle
yes
devout river
also btw how tf do you even solo big strikers I always get punched and die its very sad
400 hours btw cant even solo hammer a big striker
silent kettle
but its way more complicated than just grabbing a friend and doing it properly
potent silo
also btw how tf do you even solo big strikers I always get punched and die its v...
Pretty sure ya cant solo hammer lmfao
devout river
I think you can
gleaming cedar
experience in judging the safe distance in getting whacked
silent kettle
you can
devout river
I have seen people do it
potent silo
Ive never tried it
atomic escarp
you can but its very precise else u get clapped
potent silo
Ive solo’d pretty much everything besides big chargers
silent kettle
thats not something u want to solo melee anyways
potent silo
Ywah
Yeah
Those you usally just shoot
Even if they are sleeping
Unless it’s just like 1 guy
silent kettle
either way teamwork meleeing a giant is way more intricate than charger scout
devout river
eh
Not particularly I would say
meleeing a giant is just a countdown then hitting the guy all at once
charger scouts are harder cause its a moving target
devout river
dont really gotta worry about limb mechanics in a giant if he immediately dies after everyone hits him
errant vigil
Bigs are just a delay between each person hitting for 3 times
Charger scout is both at once
Not very different
silent kettle
charger scout you only focus on timing
giant rewards you to aim at very different places
AND timing between rotations
mossy marsh
scout mousepad 😏
jolly perch
tbh
i would kinda like cosmetics for completing the rundown that fit the theme of the rundown
like for example for r7 for beating e1 you could get gear that's like covered in tentacles and shit
subtle vault
Ooooo
mossy yoke
Hmm I like that
devout river
a developer said he likes an idea surely this means it is instantly confirmed for the game right
pliant shard
Hey doc does cryssalid happen to play XCOM
Cryssalid plays dn
vestal mountain
Cryssalid plays dn
Go away
atomic escarp
i like the idea of thematic cosmetics
vestal mountain
I will become the gazelle in the locked room
First of all, that was a deer, Second, 
Im grabbing you to play once R7 hits, trust
pliant shard
mighty lion
meleeing a giant is just a countdown then hitting the guy all at once
You can beat a giant's ass by yourself as long as you target each of their limbs with a charged hammer hit
mighty lion
Please help I’m being abducted by an official 10cc admin ™️
Good luck buddy lmfaooo
obtuse surge
now melee a giant by yourself as client in this rundown
lavish wyvern
rundown 7 let's fucking gooooooooooo
atomic escarp
now melee a giant by yourself as client in this rundown
laughs in spear
lavish wyvern
spear squad assemble
lavish wyvern
thanks
lavish wyvern
so you,are awesome too
burnt goblet
Yee
lavish wyvern
burnt goblet
mighty lion
now melee a giant by yourself as client in this rundown
I'll do it again >:D
fallow wasp
Spear is a good weapon
Very nice for holding chokes when you couldn’t be bothered to use ammo and you just wanna kill what the tools might not
tough badger
it's good for safe big boi hunting
pliant shard
So therefore you are awesome
But he uses he characters with the spear as his main
atomic escarp
embrace the spartan within
burnt goblet
I don't blame him, shieldbreaker is very good so that's acceptable
lavish wyvern
Hey
Do the cosmetics i earned this rundown stay with me or everything resets on the next one?
royal lichen
stay
get new ones along old in less than 2w
(was asked when r6 started, d0c answered ^ )
tough badger
boosters should also stay
lavish wyvern
Oh okay
royal lichen
yup, did r5 - r6
lavish wyvern
Thx
royal lichen
ppl still hold on to dem sweet r5 boosts never to be earned anew :)
tough badger
those sweet terminal use and glowstick proximity boosters
fallow wasp
If someone brings a full stack of 3 terminal use boosters to a R7 level I will cry
tough badger
what if it's a 20-code uplink
fallow wasp
The tears will be of joy
atomic escarp
What are terminal booster?
atomic escarp
Ah
fallow wasp
So no more of them
tough badger
They were not very good
distant bramble
I beat R7, there is a boss battle with two krakens
broken scarab
Double kraken meta
lost holly
make it a mine level with only high and extreme, extreme is a fast reactor with 5 waves, high is an area with a lof of poisonous fog and shadows. at the end there is a boss fight with a qmom and a dad
broken scarab
So have you all decided on what the teaser art shows?
plain hollow
looks like some kind of parasite
tough badger
So have you all decided on what the teaser art shows?
It reminds me of certain carnivorous plants curling up to hold their prey down
quaint stag
New fungus helmet cosmetic 
tough badger
Drosera capensis is the plant I was thinking of
It looks like the mask is being held to the wall in a similar manner to that
surreal rivet
So have you all decided on what the teaser art shows?
It's hard for me to decide if those are either weird alien fingers, tentacles or my mom's spaghetti.
😔
tough badger
Kinda feels like maybe it's snatchers, and they got delayed so long because the devs were never quite happy with what happens after you get snatched?
That's my "reading too much into it" guess
surreal rivet
Aghhhh, bloody Snatcher's at meeeee 😵
tough badger
I love seeing more gross stuff that reminds me of plants tho
Even the meatballs remind me of some seed pods
The teaser image does still look a bit like snail eyes too just because it's made of meat
broken scarab
He always had a beef with machine guns...
plush basin
strawberry laces
devout river
twizzlers 😋
queen field
So have you all decided on what the teaser art shows?
Anti-kiting measure numero dos
atomic escarp
So have you all decided on what the teaser art shows?
things that slows movement speed, reload speed, less melee damage and higher charge up time
turbid cliff
So have you all decided on what the teaser art shows?
can we play 20 questions
tough badger
can we play 20 questions
19 left...
broken scarab
You can ask. I may answer
half hornet
Hm. It clearly looks like something clinging to the prisoner, but it doesn't look like scout's tentacles at all... And those weird bulbs for the tips... Brrrrr.
Bare minimum: something capable of clinging / grabbing players.
Maybe even some kind of worms - don't have to be tentacles.
Or it has nothing to do with gameplay at all and just a teaser of something clinging its way through complex. Something from the deeper levels, or something that was accidentally let in with the fliers.
ocean tundra
You can ask. I may answer
Is there a high-res image of the centered R7 teaser? I posted the provided one in media.
broken scarab
I can probably fix one next week
subtle vault
Will it feature the full thing in it 👀
surreal rivet
👀 🔥
amber skiff
So have you all decided on what the teaser art shows?
Things that hang from the ceiling and grab you 👀 sorta like the barnacles from half life
The tendrils in the art remind me of sea plants tho tbh.. anemone like
solemn wigeon
Will it feature the full thing in it 👀
What if that is the full thing
subtle vault
Death by worms
subtle vault
Would be cool thing to see
fallow wasp
I wonder if any new tools will ever be created
fallow wasp
nope
broken scarab
Things that hang from the ceiling and grab you 👀 sorta like the barnacles from ...
Half-Life-barnacles are the wurst
fallow wasp
but rip shotgun sentries
surreal rivet
Sentries are cool but what about an original tool?
fallow wasp
alright new tool idea: it turns tool refill into ammo packs and that's it.
another new tool idea: Rip off that one rainbow six siege character and make glasses that can see straight through fog if you stand still
subtle vault
Mapper? Cutting torch? When 
surreal rivet
😔 Don't say the cursed words
subtle vault
I will say them till the day their added
sick hornet
even if that means killing a million strikers
subtle vault
Would be nice to see a few get added
fallow wasp
If there's a "kill unalerted scouts with melee" achievement, that would help me sort out my scout kill statistics
surreal rivet
Yes you can cfoam it and it becomes inactive for some time.
fallow wasp
okay I thought you were making an innuendo
subtle vault
Kinda of weird how they don’t have a c foamed model
sick hornet
tbf nothing does
subtle vault
Ya
sick hornet
i love how they didnt think anyone would refoam and you can get rid of the texture
subtle vault
Did not know that
sick hornet
good way to just look at the enemy models
fallow wasp
I think it'd be really cool if we could get pictures of every enemy from front side back in a perfectly white room for the wiki or something
do the devs have like a test room for making enemies?
west crow
Doing great developers! Keep up the hard work that makes such great content! 😃
jolly perch
So have you all decided on what the teaser art shows?
tentacle trap that pulls you in
half hornet
Dont blow the toot just yet, all we got is a flashy promotional picture and some engine screenshots
Hype is cool and all, but lets see the content first
royal lichen
hmm the c3 guide says c3 overload tankroom secdoor unlocked after scp_purge initiated.. does it unlock on start of scan or only after finishing the scan?
tough badger
I am unsure what the benefit to going in during the scan is
royal lichen
just a play of thought.. go murder tanky and get bulk before finished, then bolt immediately as finished..
... if it unlocks that is
tough badger
right
I'm just not sure how that's faster
it's just the exact same thing in a different order, since the scan can't progress at all while you're getting the key
atomic escarp
hmm the c3 guide says c3 overload tankroom secdoor unlocked after scp_purge init...
after it says it when you finish the scan
topaz parrot
im stuck with 2 levels left in the rundown and its d3 and c3 feelsbadman
last gust
nice, fun levels
topaz parrot
oh yeah its fun im just bad so its taking ages to get any decent attempt lol
topaz parrot
indeed
fallow wasp
I like every D level but it’s a shame not many people enjoy them
last gust
shadow scouts then reactor shutdown with shadows then error alarm that you have to go through tank room to deactivate then class 6 shadow alarm then error that you have to go back through tank room to deactivate then reactor with side zone logs then find ids in fog
I'm not so big on d1
also fuck dx
d2, d3, and d4 are great
fallow wasp
I probably would have liked DX more if the uplink jungle was a place you would repeatedly go back to
Rather than being the wall of malice at the end of a pretty groovy level
last gust
I like the scout rooms in dx
that's the only positive thing I can say about it
alpha uplink zone does unkind things to my frames
and I'm not a frame snob
fallow wasp
Everyone becomes a frame snob when your computer drops below comfortably playable levels of fps
It wasn’t terrible for me, but it was just bad enough that I would occasionally miss shots I was almost guaranteed
Thank god for settings
last gust
my (poor) understanding is that my situation is more of a frame pacing thing
camera just doesn't move smoothly
I mean, my frames do take a dive too
but that always happens on alpha
this is worse
burnt goblet
Hey, where do you go after you get the data cube after the infection? its been a while since ive played d4
asking for a friend
nvm found it
vale zephyr
Had a wierd thing happen in D2 with a mother, this was after multiple checkpoint restarts and we were guessing that was the cause, but we couldnt freeze mothers anymore
even 2 full charges from the launcher wasnt enough
tough badger
D-tier is the most fun tho
manic spire
Still yet to beat D2 and D4
Dude those are the best levels!
robust shale
i really hope some new infected come soon
rundown 6 enemy wise was kind of a letdown
errant vigil
what secret enemies
candid pelican
what secret enemies
I suppose the kraken, the flying meatballs, and the flying armored meatballs lol
fallow wasp
Nono I was the secret enemy
I would invade games dark souls style and kill them with a spear
robust shale
I suppose the kraken, the flying meatballs, and the flying armored meatballs lol
i said the wrong thing
i just want more infected
not flying meatballs that barely come out
errant vigil
They don't come out because they're entirely jank
radiant coyote
Did the alarm shutdown trick on d3 overload get patched?
radiant coyote
so do you pop the alarm door, then turn off the overload alarm?
We messed it up somehow haha
tough badger
yeah you want to have the command ready on the terminal before you pull the door, then enter it asap after setting off the class 6
if you get more than 1 wave spawn things could get dicey very easily
radiant coyote
can you enter the command, then pop the door while the terminal stuff is loading?
tough badger
theoretically but i wouldn't trust it
radiant coyote
yeah i think we had a wave spawn while the command was loading
tough badger
you can't avoid some enemies spawning i think
make sure defense team stays in the main room, b/c if you're two rooms away anything that runs back towards them won't scream inside the tank room
radiant coyote
which one do you mean by main room?
tough badger
the large central room in the starting zone, right outside the thin room the tank room is attached to
you just want to make sure that buffer room is there
radiant coyote
yeah the one where the error waves spawn right?
tough badger
yeah. they should all spawn back where the elevator dropped tho
radiant coyote
yep, we were doing that
we'll try again and see if our luck changes lol
thanks for the help
tough badger
it's a minor headache of a trick but it's a decent time save
wary olive
you can't avoid some enemies spawning i think
you can avoid shadows spawning at all if you time the command with the door pull correctly
and that alarm cheese doesnt save that much time, mainly resources. you still have to do the scans anyways
fierce laurel
just beat it normally ._.
if you cheese that level you won't be able to beat other hard levels that aren't cheesable
wary olive
its actually more enjoyable to do the other cheese where you do the alarm door properly without turning off overload error, start the shadow error then turn them both off at the same time
its more difficult though
tough badger
tbf i don't think the alarm shutoff cheese really takes much away, it's a neat trick and the class 6 isn't really that integral to the map
i wouldn't ever look at someone's clear of D3 and say "ah but if you had to do the class 6 properly you would've wiped"
fierce laurel
maybe not at an experienced level
but 4~6 uses of ammo and tool each can drastically change a run for the average team
tough badger
i don't think the average team is beating D3 without the other cheese, the one that actually matters
fierce laurel
fair nuff
radiant coyote
tried timing it better and it worked, had no waves spawn
radiant coyote
but 4~6 uses of ammo and tool each can drastically change a run for the average ...
We usually have heaps of spare stuff anyway. I dont think it would have made a difference between a success or fail for us, just wanted to get it right as i think its a cool trick
prisma zodiac
i rly wouldnt call it a trick
last gust
but 4~6 uses of ammo and tool each can drastically change a run for the average ...
yeah they really didn't put enough ammo in d3, did they
prisma zodiac
if you know how to loot, stealth and shoot its ammo paradice
but looting well in a reactor is not something new guys would do
Couple that with a longer shadow error draining more ressources = bang low ammo
last gust
that was a 
in d3 duos, I've used an ammo hit to recover like 5% of main before, and no special
then we both left overload bulkhead key room with 4 use ammopacks and left behind like another 5 uses
d3 is gundown 6 ground zero
it's kinda disgusting really
prisma zodiac
d3 is gundown 6 ground zero
i know that it was 
But this here is your inexperience speaking in a sense
All reactor levels had way too much ammo. Thats kind off the point often. To be able to shoot it all .
last gust
I'm kinda fine with the amount of ammo around the reactor itself
prisma zodiac
R2D2, R4B1 Ex, R4D1, R5C2 EX all had insane amounts of ammo
last gust
(main reactor that is)
prisma zodiac
and you cant forget. In a 4 man those 13 uses of ammo now are spread over 4 people
Still a lot (r6 duh) but not intensely so
last gust
even in a 4 man it's a bit much
by the time we're on the class 6 shadow alarm, everyone's nearly full on ammo and like 2 people are carrying 4-uses
and there's like 10 uses of ammo through the security door
prisma zodiac
try playing a challenging reavtor first time and maybe even do 1-2 waves twice
you are supposed to have left overs to be able to redo waves
I honestly think you are „supposed“ to shoot the overload error with the ammo
its just that nobody does so
last gust
that might be true
or maybe you're supposed to shoot your way through respawn tank room
twice
still need to do that
prisma zodiac
its fun
i feel like it may give you enough ammo to clear it once and shoot error
which would be very r6 like
atomic escarp
why shoot when 3 people can melee them
if they really wanted people to shoot they'd have more than 3 enemies at a time
last gust
and you cant forget. In a 4 man those 13 uses of ammo now are spread over 4 peop...
also I don't think people can hurr durr about gundown 6 without having some idea about where to cut ammo from
Like, you can't cut from the story levels, even though I would cut some uses from c1 and (especially) d1
You can get away with missing 1 use in b1 (I get away with missing 2 uses regularly but hel revo is busted) but again, level aimed at newbies
c2 is perfect, people run out of ammo on the error wave all the time
the first half of c3 is perfect given you usually have to miss a lot of the ammo that spawns, I'd cut a fair bit of ammo from secondary though
that leaves d2 and d4, which you could trim some from, I guess
but d3 strikes me as gross
and vets played d3pe to death because it's a great level and one of the only ones in r6 that's consistently interesting to vets, so I get the impression that it informed a lot of opinions on the amount of ammo in r6
last gust
nah, hybrid error in c2
last laurel
Yeah, realised what section you were referring to
obtuse surge
because they don't use the sniper
last laurel
That's not necessarily true
last laurel
Sniper affords being efficient but it still requires a person hitting them heads. Any scout wake up will also drain ammo, multiple scout wake ups could result in something unrecoverable
obtuse surge
sniper can just stay back so the scouts shouldn't be hardto deal with
because you get to take your time
last laurel
Oh I know but both teams are on a timer still. Sniper sentry and sniper will hold off for a while but it isn't 'so much time'. Getting a nasty scout in the fog with a packed room isn't too pleasant if you didn't plan to have a fog repeller on you after the mother fight.
However, your mileage can definitely vary here. You can get some empty rooms with scouts and you can get some cursed ones.
Guess I'm rationalising the ammo efficiency for a particular level of player.
obtuse surge
its like 40 or 45s
you get to clear 2 per ammo use
you simply shouldn't have used the sniper much before so you're at 100% when it all starts
and you should be the one holding whatever large ammo use is available
which is likely a 4 use
you have tons of time
it just doesn't work like this because the game is broken
you'll have to be the host with the sniper
and even then you'll have to be used to being host because the hybrids have different animations host vs client when winding up attacks
the game being broken is the only thing that makes it hard
else 1 person that has ok aim with a sniper would always carry
i've played C2 without having a good host and we spend 3 fucking hours reloading the checkpoint
it's absolutely ridiculous how much it matters
obtuse surge
as client you feel entirely useless against the hybrids
next rapids
i love not being able to see the hybrids while they can shoot me
just getting beamed around the corner
last laurel
just getting beamed around the corner
Thought that was just a feature 😛
candid pelican
i love not being able to see the hybrids while they can shoot me
My favorite is when there is a giant about to attack, you hide behind something and the giant curves it’s tongue over to hit you
last laurel
My favorite is when there is a giant about to attack, you hide behind something ...
Just find better cover 😛
last gust
my favourite is when the charger wave hasn't even arrived yet, and then you hear 10 punch sounds at once and you're immediately at 15 life
hallow lark
Just find better cover 😛
My favorite is when I was stealthing and I very very nearly woke the Giant respawn room all cuz I didn’t see the Hyb there that I almost ran into.
fallow wasp
I wonder if r7 will be as generous with resources
robust shale
i have a genuine question why do the developers hate the modding community?
dont mods help keep games alive??
like l4d2 for example
being able to access more rundowns than the official sounds great for replayability
last gust
i have a genuine question why do the developers hate the modding community?
don't want to be liable for modding-related issues, don't like data miners leaking things, want to control the nature of the experience
I think those are the going theories anyway
robust shale
data miners are assholes of course
robust shale
man if this game had a workshop that would be so cool
i would play this game so much more if they had a workshop
bold widget
chuckle
nocturne flax
i have a genuine question why do the developers hate the modding community?
khepri moment
obtuse surge
he a lil confused
hard cobalt
Is there in game lore for the shadow sleepers?
Or whatever they are called since some are giants.
atomic escarp
Please do not do that
fallow wasp
DX uplinks IMO are best done from top to bottom
tough badger
Is there in game lore for the shadow sleepers?
they're usually associated in-game with electricity and power outages, but that's about all we've got
royal lichen
How to DX uplink??
top mid bot.. and terminal guy shoots between codes.. and the 3 constant voice chat, directions where enemies come.. dont go mid bottom thru a wave horde, kill em first.. good luck.
also mid bottom u can close the door (if u go that way), buys u about 7 seconds head start to reach bottom.. and if u do, u win.
quaint stag
Not sure what tools you're using but I found running at least two turrets and bio to be helpful for the end of Dx as well. You don't really need mines for any part of Dx. (imo)
atomic escarp
You either go top mid bottom or mid top bottom. the latter has the advantage of being less irritating for clients to defend as middle terminal is genuinely the hardest one due to sniper melee and charger flyers start spawning once you finish one uplink
manic spire
How to DX uplink??
yeah What bridge said is good. either (C foam. Bio. Burst. Auto) or ( Bio. Burst. Burst. Auto) both worked well for me.
atomic escarp
Have the people with wave clear or crowd control weapons defending (heavy assault rifle/hel gun/machine gun/shotgun) if there is someone bringing a specialised weapon
fierce laurel
4 cfoams
atomic escarp
And there is around 15 uses of med, ammo and 10 uses of tool, don't be afraid to find resources before starting, if the uplink haven't started, there is a flyer + sleeper error that spawns 6-8 every 30-40 seconds(?)
fierce laurel
why kill them when they can't kill you
quaint stag
Pacifism run incoming
atomic escarp
It's true
velvet flower
Feel like the order of terminals in DX last part doesn't matter that much. Tried several permutations and didn't find any order is particularly easier than other order, I personally had most successes just doing bottom-middle-top.
The most troublesome part is the middle terminal, that's mainly because
- Defense effective range is really short for north & east side.
- Flyers can ambush you easily from the top or behind.
My suggestion is make 1-2 players defend north & east side at the same place exactly when you're defending top terminal. This gives you: better effective range for sleepers spawned in north & east sides, also the flyers will mostly baited by the top floor players so terminal player will less likely lose unavoidable hp.
signal fox
silent kettle
have someone buy a resurrection scroll for more yt content
mossy marsh
REVIVE POTION
stats
+ Kephri revives
- He can only make Among Us content
bound league of legends account
opinion ignored
silent kettle
my favorite arknights player strikes again
tough badger
I've also played league so feel free to ignore my opinion too
silent kettle
gg
silent kettle
B)
shell hamlet
any thoughts on ideal loadout for D4
shell hamlet
interesting, usually i prefer sniper of the sentries
what about armaments
d4 is the last level i need toc omplete to be done with the RD
manic spire
Also for weapons pick stagger and wave holding weapons as opposed to kill ones
shell hamlet
i've done everything else PE
manic spire
interesting, usually i prefer sniper of the sentries
agreed
sniper is my favorite
but surge alarms killing potential doesn't matter.
You want to hold them back mostly.
shell hamlet
pistol/machinegun/auto sentry?
manic spire
Also for weapons pick stagger and wave holding weapons as opposed to kill ones
examples would be machinegun smg pistol dmr
manic spire
pistol/machinegun/auto sentry?
not for everyone of course.
But yeah
machinegun really shines in that level
if you can use it well.
fierce laurel
I'd run bio mine cfoam burst
hallow lark
You want to hold them back mostly.
Unless there are higher priority like Gs in there that would lessen the severity of the waves
silent kettle
auto in r4 is troll
fierce laurel
auto was the go to sentry in R4
burst was still shit
and datacenter™️ made sniper kind of poopoo
velvet flower
auto sentry is the meta in R4.
silent kettle
let alone e1 sniper
fierce laurel
its kind of interesting in hindsight how much levels affect sentry meta
silent kettle
nothing more worth than a tool that allows you hammer S scans
fierce laurel
I feel as if auto would have still been dominant even with current burst in R4
E1 was either auto auto or auto sniper
silent kettle
ok thats p troll
fierce laurel
you're troll
fierce laurel
you must have mistaken that for B1
velvet flower
That's the late meta.
fierce laurel
I guess B1 was that difficult for you
silent kettle
ok auto sentry will not help u solo hold ex reactor
velvet flower
If you're using guns, it will.
silent kettle
because it wont kill anything
fierce laurel
auto sentey isn't meant to kill anything
silent kettle
yes but wave 6 is all about killing
its so nice not having 30 enemies in your face because of stagger cringe on e1
velvet flower
Argue things back in R4 is meh, I'll say double auto is the meta in R4E1 for first month, later players start shifting to c-foam for a sleeper path exploits discovered by speedrunners, also hammer kiting become the most common way for extreme so sniper sentry starts rising up.
wary olive
people didnt hammer kite the reactor at the start of r4 ext?
velvet flower
They did since fireblade's video I think, but it's like 50-50, still a decent amount of group just shooting the extreme part from my memory.
hexed vapor
and datacenter™️ made sniper kind of poopoo
This is pre-nerf sniper sentry, though.
Plenty of sight lines.
Made duo D1 super accessible, too, iirc.
boreal tendon
2 sniper sentries make it so you nearly don't have to shoot on R4D1 waves
one is fun for soloing though
i mean, was 
obtuse surge
it's not a sleeper path exploit
its the devs implementing collision in the shittiest way so if there's tons of dudes on a small door with bad terrain in front, they continue to push eachother out of range of the door
still not fixed and doesn't even seem like anything they plan to fix anymore
atomic escarp
Don't worry it'll be fixed before release, just keep up to date on the early access roadm- oh wait it released.
silent kettle
Auto is pub bait in r4
silent kettle
Made duo D1 super accessible, too, iirc.
made solo very realistic
atomic escarp
auto sentry is the meta in R4.
whaT
silent kettle
my thoughts exactly
atomic escarp
Mr Jewel you should post Mr S.B.'s R4D1ex solo
silent kettle
ahaha
vague mauve
blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablabla bi bi bi
atomic escarp
If you're using guns, it will.
Maybe you should try soloing R4D1 High before making these questionable assumptions
errant vigil
Wow it’s almost like most of the extension maps were made to show off sniper sentry when it was added
silent kettle
yessir
errant vigil
Didn’t really matter anyways BC made any tool work
silent kettle
well its made clear when you have 2 people holding 4 peoples worth of enemies
fierce laurel
D1 was like the only level you exclusively ran sniper sentry
even then a lot of teams opted for one sniper one auto
duo runs also do not count towards the meta
or mines would be the only tool anyone ran
according to 'solo players'
silent kettle
r4 mines r troll
queen field
D1 was like the only level you exclusively ran sniper sentry
You could run 3 sniper sentries 1 bio on any level without any issue (yes you were talking about duo runs and i'm talking about 4 player runs 😳 )
silent kettle
his brain is stuck in 2020
atomic escarp
Idk I prefer 40 kills instead of not very consistent stagger
silent kettle
XDDDD
tired charm
D1 was like the only level you exclusively ran sniper sentry
Are you talking shit about my sniper sentry
fierce laurel
your sniper sentry it was no ones sniper sentry
tired charm
Indeed
fallow wasp
I am a firm believer in sniper/burst sentry supremacy
Why stagger my enemies when I can just kill them
fossil lantern
auto runs out so fast too it feels like 😭
fallow wasp
I hope R7 brings sniper sentry to its rightful throne atop all sentries
Including the late shotgun sentry
errant vigil
Sniper sentry too easy, rather it only be useful on reactors
quaint stag
Scattergun sentries when? 👀
errant vigil
if it only targeted bigs probably wouldn't be that bad
tough badger
1 kill per tool use
sick hornet
ah yes, if you have 4 at 100% you can clear tank spawn cap
distant bramble
spoiler alert || you are in a dream, a comatose and when you wake up, you're just a common spitter||
sick hornet
distant bramble
<:frogpog:828663962865631242>
sick hornet
distant bramble
shell hamlet
any advice for the last error alarm in D4, the cell-to-extraction?
it seems like there aren't any.... waves...they just come CONSTANTLY...how are you supposed to get the cell through the endless sea of enemies?
zinc barn
New apparels better be gucci 😎
digital dawn
any advice for the last error alarm in D4, the cell-to-extraction?
It's mostly about getting out of the large room so you can get the enemies to spawn behind you.
You can defend with 2/3 ppl and wait for the cell carrier to arrive. Provided you kept the large door in that room alive until now, you can keep it open for defending and then close it, foam it and mine it when you are ready to leave. This will take care of most of the enemies and you can push through the few that are still standing.
After that you can focus on running for the most part. Just throw any c-foam nades that you come across and reinforce every door behind you.
Alternatively you can just perma foam the big door instead of defending with multiple ppl.
plush basin
Infinite foam strats 🙂
With my team we get the cell out of the end room and then run back in there and bait all the enemies in. Run out and cfoam them shut in that room and keep on refoaming it until the cell is past another door, then move up and keep foaming doors behind us til we get out
shell hamlet
It's mostly about getting out of the large room so you can get the enemies to sp...
thank you
plush basin
nice one
shell hamlet
we were all stunned by how far we still had to go
after putting in the cell
we were terrified one of the rooms on the way out would have like a tank or something
subtle vault
That guy crouching in the leaks looks to have a new helmet, torso, and backpack. Also cool seeing the helmets visors have a little glow to them.
Also it looks like the bishop bot has eye brows
surreal rivet
Am I delusional or is Bishop's face much more detailed?
subtle vault
It is
surreal rivet
pog
surreal rivet
🥰 My boy's getting some love with this update
subtle vault
Or it could be head customization 😳
surreal rivet
🤔 could be
subtle vault
Probably not. Something funny to think about tho
This made my morning
Looking at the new torso on the crouching guy. It looks like he’s wearing rubber gloves
obtuse surge
you know there's a bug with projectiles we discover in R4 where they aren't synced as in, the projectiles i see come towards me while the same projectile on your end is coming towards you
it gives shooters x4 team damage and is what makes them so much more dangerous
For some reason I hadn't thought about this but I would guess it also applies to fliers and is probably a HUGE reason as to why DX is fucked too
Will pay attention to it on my next match with flyers
mellow creek
solemn wigeon
Gotta love that client side shooter projectile
obtuse surge
i know it applies to shooters, big shooters and hybrids
solemn wigeon
90% of why I'm complaining "why me?!"
obtuse surge
so it would make sense to me that it does for the flyers too
solemn wigeon
Inb4 it applies to the snatcher
obtuse surge
thank god they fixed the double damage they had because technically that was giving them x8 team damage
turbid cliff
All the other ones are homing though
obtuse surge
yeh but on my end they're mostly homing towards me
while on your end they're homing towards you
turbid cliff
I mean
obtuse surge
one projectile can hit all 4 players
obtuse surge
maybe not then
turbid cliff
But i wouldn't be surprised if they did have it
obtuse surge
haven't paid attention to it specifically but can say it feels like i get targeted more than i should with fliers too
solemn wigeon
This is a "feature" i can for sure relate to
It almost always feels like I'm getting targetted
Even if im in the back, behind cover, etc
Epic flyers
robust marsh
Welp, and now we have a super flier
you mean the weakass armored one?
half hornet
Yeah, that guy
Charger flier
The guy reminds me of langoliers
Anybody remembers that?...
broken scarab
Good movie. Scared me as a kid.
But, just to be clear, are you saying that one shooter shoots one projectile, that homes in on all four players?
obtuse surge
yes
not necessarily all the time
but very often if you look at the health of people after only 1 shot has been fired, multiple people ended up getting hit
broken scarab
Hm, sounds weird, and if you look into it an can record it, it would help
turbid cliff
It'd take several perspectives
jolly perch
the image in dev-leaks kinda looks like either the lab (pretty sure it would be a new tile) or the new environment
surreal rivet
Mmm, guys?
remember when Ludvig was leaking the new environments? Good old days 😔
Like for R5
turbid cliff
Looks like lab to me but did lab have those boxes
I feel like I've seen them but I don't know where
digital dawn
yeah lab has those
half hornet
Which level in R6 has lab tileset?
digital dawn
b1
hexed vapor
It looks like a lab tile imo, just lighting.
The D1 "place/thing" tease looks more like it could be new enviro than the newest leak.
tough badger
yea just looks like lab with some nice soft lighting
almost looks like a sepia filter
actually... could you always see eyes behind any of the player masks?
tough badger
man i never looked that close at the fronts lmao
trying to make out what any of the weapons/tools are but the lighting, angle, and general fact that they're an amorphous blob of metal rectangles when stowed on your back is making it hard 😔
subtle vault
We are quite the ugly bastards.
It looks like we are getting a make over in this rundown
Someone early this morning pointed out how the face looks more detailed
hallow lark
So potentially a better looking?
tough badger
nice
subtle vault
I do like that glow around the visor
craggy orbit
Left our eyebrows in hydrostasis
hallow lark
I wonder if that means new HUD
subtle vault
That would be something
I think it’s probably just some “decoration” for the masks
Make them look even cooler
Of it could be something completely different
tough badger
New corrupted logs deciphering on santonian 👀
craggy orbit
(It's still kinda broken with the scrolling)
tough badger
Fix scrolling so we can read pls 🥺
I'm ready to rise up and raise the iron roof off
turbid cliff
F12
stiff scarab
R7 only one level?
tough badger
Just one 10-hour level, yeah
fallow wasp
On top of it being one level, they’re listening to community discourse about checkpoints and have elected to go back to not having them
shadow crane
and it is a surge alarm all the way through with no reprieve
tough badger
And yet I'd still be willing to play it 🤡
granite token
||What do you think is gonna happen about the checkpoints in R7?||
distant bramble
Spoiler alert || 🚨 ||
atomic escarp
||What do you think is gonna happen about the checkpoints in R7?||
there will be few checkpoints and right before major objectives
granite token
oh i see thanks
atomic escarp
not 100% sure but i like to believe thats the case
granite token
||Yeah, probably less checkpoints||
mossy marsh
||why spoiler tag in spoiler chat?||
atomic escarp
||why not||
mossy marsh
||why yes||
atomic escarp
||pretty rude of you to ask like that||
hallow lark
This is ||Spoiler Chat after all||
lavish wyvern
The snatcher.
tough badger
I assume levels had a variety of checkpoint numbers/placements to get a feel for which saw the most use/abuse, so they'll probably be placed more strategically from now on (so more like the extension levels)
pliant shard
The snatcher.
The snatcher… but it has a spear
lavish wyvern
Snatching
candid dragon
snatcher no snatching
granite token
I assume levels had a variety of checkpoint numbers/placements to get a feel for...
Yeah, they will more likely to be few and be placed at/in strategic parts of a level. But I also get the feeling that E tier levels will not have any checkpoints at all. (maybe)
granite token
Yeah, they will more likely to be few and be placed at/in strategic parts of a l...
The reason why I currently dislike checkpoint is just there is too many of them scattered throughout the level, which are ripe for abuse.
lavish wyvern
The only think that i wish it was added was the option to get a save point at a checkpoint
Like
You could leave the game
Get back at it 2 hours later and continue your progress
candid dragon
sounds like a hassle
candid dragon
i think the only place i would have really appreciated a checkpoint was right before r4e1 extreme, and right before entering high.
other than that, i dont think any of the levels this rundown warrant a checkpoint.
lavish wyvern
Ye
nocturne flax
sounds like a hassle
it would be actually easier to save the state of the game from a close door instead that you can re-launch to than whatever the hell they did
candid dragon
let alone a save you can keep in your pack pocket
nocturne flax
i will die on a grave defending save rooms
candid dragon
honestly, closable security doors would make checkpoints and optimization a lot easier.
nocturne flax
i mean, they done goof when they force the door to open when the scan its complete
candid dragon
i hate the insta door opening after chp
nocturne flax
everybody does
candid dragon
esp on d3 pe where checkpoints take forever to load
nocturne flax
dont know why they tought it was a good idea
candid dragon
save room team scans could work, but, must require 4 players minimum to actually save. not bots, not empty.
lavish wyvern
Why tho?
candid dragon
otherwise i just see people having one person rush the save room, other 3 disconnect after objective, hit the save, reload, rejoin, teleport across the map.
nocturne flax
or you know, just a save room in wich you can just enter a hsu then come back later to it
bots shouldnt be a factor since they just kinda spawn
lavish wyvern
or you know, just a save room in wich you can just enter a hsu then come back la...
I like this idea better
Just a Quality of life thing y know
nocturne flax
way easier than automatically opening a room, and having an active room right out the bat
candid dragon
honestly, i think if a floor is long enough to require pocketing a save, its too long and should either be broken up or shortened
nocturne flax
Just a Quality of life thing y know
the game doesnt really need this nor checkpoints, but i think of this more for the poor souls who do levels for 4 hours straight
rather have a saferoom than checkpoints
lavish wyvern
the game doesnt really need this nor checkpoints, but i think of this more for t...
Exactly
candid dragon
a la 8 hour D1.
atomic escarp
I mean if you're taking 4 hours to do a level
Check points aren't gonna help you with that kinda skill issue
Anyway im on 48 hours D2 am I missing something?
candid dragon
honestly, checkpoints were probably only overused to have us bugtest in bulk
i hope there are less next rundown
candid dragon
realistically, that Dx room needs a hit of the optimization stick
candid dragon
if i had stable frames, Dx would be significantly easier
atomic escarp
Sadly Dx is not a game breaking bug
Kixeye 😂
atomic escarp
I mean the moment you kill a floater
lavish wyvern
20 frames
lavish wyvern
Yea
candid dragon
honestly, its not even that the game is hard to run on potato hardware, its that Dx takes significantly more power to get good frames.
so, unless you're already capped on fps for your settings by a large regard, EVERYONE takes a big bad frame hit in that room
lavish wyvern
In reality the attack from that new flyer was to suck your frames
atomic escarp
This game has been designed, it seems, to run on potato hardware. Seeing as an old HP 2011 notebook runs this game at 30 frames
mossy marsh
Yeah, they will more likely to be few and be placed at/in strategic parts of a l...
Calle has confirmed the part of E tier not having checkpoint, if I recall correctly
atomic escarp
Yet a core i5 8th gen 1050 can't run it past 40
nocturne flax
you can run the complex at 60+ easy on low end hardware
you cannot run the dimension at all
lavish wyvern
you can run the complex at 60+ easy on low end hardware
Yes
atomic escarp
Some rooms shoot up to past 60+ easy if there's little to nothing going on in it
Fog, alarms, enemies ectra, tend to tank FPS
nocturne flax
SO have and ryzen 3 1200 and rx 480, game runs fine until we hit alpha
candid dragon
dimension in general needs to be hit by the optimization stick
turbid cliff
Even without dimensions the game runs like shit to me compared to last rundowns
atomic escarp
Rtx 960 on a core i5 4th gen
and this game would get 40ish frames at max
during r2-3
was kinda mint for the budget pc
nocturne flax
Even without dimensions the game runs like shit to me compared to last rundowns
Weird, ive been having nothing but increase performance
candid dragon
Even without dimensions the game runs like shit to me compared to last rundowns
the lighting change did not help, but there are still avenues for optimization in the base game.
nocturne flax
maybe because i have shadows on low?
atomic escarp
Shadows tank your frames in this game
nocturne flax
like 99% of all my games i just either put that on low or medium
mossy marsh
fog 
lavish wyvern
I have almost everything set to low or medium
turbid cliff
I honestly never paid attention before but i think i was running at 144 (max) in R5
Now ~60
atomic escarp
Motion blur, Vertical sync, Anti-aliasing, Shadow resolution, Contact shadows, Player shadows, Subsurface scattering
Are some of the worst
candid dragon
i keep everything on minimum so i can have 75fps on a gtx 970
turbid cliff
But yeah high settings if that does anything
turbid cliff
Motion blur, Vertical sync, Anti-aliasing, Shadow resolution, Contact shadows, P...
Along with most of what was mentioned here
mossy marsh
Motion blur, Vertical sync, Anti-aliasing, Shadow resolution, Contact shadows, P...
Motion blur
is your motion blur ray traced or some shit?
wtf lol
atomic escarp
Motion Blur is usually not an issue in games when it's done correctly
Same for shadow resolution if your gpu can handle it
But killing those two settings shot my frames up and performance up
CPU culling is a good idea if you happen to have a good CPU
But unless you're cooking with an R7+ I7+ I wouldn't touch it
mossy marsh
I haven't found CPU culling having an impact at all
nocturne flax
theres many things that affect perfomances aside from settings
mossy marsh
nor any upsides lol
nocturne flax
room layout and map size significantly lowers fps
atomic escarp
There's only so much you can do to affect performance outside of settings
turbid cliff
Cpu culling just introduced a delay on mouse aim
atomic escarp
Anything else you'd need to ask the devs why they do such lack luster testing on things
turbid cliff
Tried
atomic escarp
CPU culling ive seen work on higher end CPUs
turbid cliff
Didn't get a proper reply
nocturne flax
r5e1 it was a speedrun for me to go past the first error alarm so i can get a stable 60+ fps
candid dragon
on my i7 3770k, cpu culling does fuck all of anything (on windows).
on linux it does absolutely nothing.
mossy marsh
room layout and map size significantly lowers fps
Lockout 2 B1 moment
nocturne flax
rooms with no lights, right next to fully lit rooms are taxing as hell
atomic escarp
third gen i7 that's why
Id need to look into the third gen to see what might be the issue there
nocturne flax
thats a good cpu tho
atomic escarp
I7 is a good cpu, but that's a rather old generation of i7
That's like, 2012 I think?
nocturne flax
its almost on par with a ryzen 5 1600 apart from like 2 less cores and threads
atomic escarp
Which is fine, but isn't this game single core performance?
atomic escarp
i7 7700K was what I used to use for playing Empire at War
Best single threaded performance I could find
turbid cliff
Bd is threatened by so many kinds of inanimate objects and non-physical stuff
atomic escarp
Worked wonders for most games till it finally died out
nocturne flax
Which is fine, but isn't this game single core performance?
i would believe so
mossy marsh
i have an i7 9750, but it's mobile so that probably handicaps it a lot :pepega:
nocturne flax
Bd is threatened by so many kinds of inanimate objects and non-physical stuff
STOP!!! 😆
atomic escarp
When gtfo runs like a roblox game
pliant shard
Bd is threatened by so many kinds of inanimate objects and non-physical stuff
this is the most threatening of all
distant bramble
Excuse me. This is the spoiler chat
Not the talk about PC specs chat
Spoiler alert ||better PCs run the game better||
candid dragon
Spoiler alert ||your mother was a hamster||
tough badger
||your father smells of elderberries||
obtuse surge
fortnite walter white
candid dragon
Favourite virtual potato: saul goodman
granite token
Calle has confirmed the part of E tier not having checkpoint, if I recall correc...
Nice, thanks for the info!
turbid cliff
I remembered i had tons of clips from old rundowns which i could just view to see fps and compare
R6 literally halved my frame rate
Not even talking about dimensions
Compared to R5 which is of course not the best rundown in terms of performance either
turbid cliff
R10 only supercomputers allowed
distant bramble
R15 nasa pc ONLY
turbid egret
R10 only supercomputers allowed
quantum computers
turbid egret
R15 nasa pc ONLY
alien technology ONLY
broken scarab
Lowest tech specs: Biocom
mossy marsh
cell
fallow wasp
Turning gtfo into a text based adventure
hallow lark
Turning gtfo into a text based adventure
You Approach a sleeping sleeper… what shall you do?
Use Hammer
You hammered that sleeping sleeper…. One in distance woke! What will you do?
subtle vault
Dnd story themed around gtfo when
dire notch
uh, uh, Roll a D100 to check if you kill the striker or not
hallow lark
Dnd story themed around gtfo when
I’ll deal with this one when I get the chance
grizzled ravine
I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to make a 6-7 session expedition, if I knew more of the lore.
Additionally, I don't think DND's 5E system would be that great for GTFO. I don't know Sci-Fi themed TTRPGs (since it's not my genre of TTRPG). However, the brawly nature of 5e doesn't seem to fit into the "stealthy" nature of GTFO.
dire notch
even the veterans dont know the lore
I wish you luck regardless
🤔 use shadowrun templates or something
grizzled ravine
Shadowrun might not be bad, it'd be a better fit thematically that's for sure.
hallow lark
Additionally, I don't think DND's 5E system would be that great for GTFO. I don'...
Well there’s SWSE (Star wars saga edition)
storm dirge
just use GURPS
balmy robin
You could use paranoia system
(Quite a bit more on the roleplay side, but I believe it could fit nicely in this setting)
lavish wyvern
The snatcher.
mortal portal
The snatcher.
shadow crane
The snatcher.
polar folio
The snatcher.
atomic escarp
The mapper.
tough badger
The snapper.
atomic escarp
The snapper.
fallow wasp
Red snapper.
lavish wyvern
The clapper.
pliant shard
The fapper.
pliant shard
does the cell in d4 spawn on the same spot every time?
Always in zone C
bold widget
lmao
worldly cargo
i've only seen it spawn in 2 spots really, and always in C ya
bold widget
ty for the heads up
atomic escarp
Why are you asking this
I thought you're carrying people on D4
Now I feel scammed
bold widget
3.99 per clear
nah was just curious chase had it spawn over and over again on the same spot which was kinda sus
obtuse surge
it can spawn in any room
like pretty much every item in the game
it's not affected by the bug that unintentionally makes it static
hard cobalt
How difficult is DX? I have completed D1 and CX... Unsure if I will be able to clear DX without luck
Before R7 that is
craggy orbit
It’s not very difficult, until it very suddenly is
manic spire
How difficult is DX? I have completed D1 and CX... Unsure if I will be able to c...
it's weird. 90% of it is easier then Cx then the last part is real hard and terrible at performance at the same time.
nah D3 is much harder.
But much less annoying.
atomic escarp
dx is weirdly easy through the first part of the map, once you teleport is where the action begins, if u can go through first half with good health and ammo u will have a good chance at beating dx second half
manic spire
it's also weirdly short.
hard cobalt
How long would you say is needed assuming it's not a clear on the first try? 2.5 hours?
manic spire
Maybe 45-50 minutes at a normal speed
prisma zodiac
almost as bad as D3
iiiiinteresting take lol
manic spire
How long would you say is needed assuming it's not a clear on the first try? 2.5...
well let's say 45 minutes per attempt if you make it to the end.
hard cobalt
Ah, not any checks near the end
prisma zodiac
it's weird. 90% of it is easier then Cx then the last part is real hard and terr...
id argue its more of a skill check
It just checks whether you can do the basics now. (scouts/stealth/alarm prep) so you dont waste to much for the actually challenging ending
hard cobalt
Well, I have a group of friends where I am the most experienced ... Yikes
prisma zodiac
honestly. Getting to the end isnt hard if you are good at stealthing and killing scouts
manic spire
i hate them a bit lol. But i think it's close to the end.
atomic escarp
dx? or cx?
manic spire
Dx
loud frost
if you got a group of friends who can set up a mini tower defense fast then its not too bad
prisma zodiac
theres 2 checkpoints in dx if you are talking about that.
1 early on you REALLY only should use if you passed the thing before it well.
And 1 before the ending
tough badger
DX has r5d1 vibes where most of it feels like busywork and then you get to the actual level after what feels like way too long
atomic escarp
dx is after the class 5 alarm past that lights go out and then u get to a security door for lights to come back on then 3 rooms with 3 scouts across then there's the checkpoint
2 rooms away from uplink terminal that starts the audio clip
manic spire
honestly if it wasn't for performance issues Dx would not be anywhere near as hard.
fallow wasp
Maybe I’m decayed mentally but I think they said something about R7 being tougher
manic spire
As long as they fix those cheese bugs with reactor codes.
fallow wasp
I can definitely say if not for PE levels I would not be nearly as good of a player
manic spire
Doesn't matter how hard a level like D3 is if you can just not play half the level after one attempt.
hallow lark
Lol
hard cobalt
Well r7 has another layer of levels, E
tough badger
i can see code checkpoint cheese either being actually technically fixed or we'll just not be given checkpoints before reactors lol
hallow lark
I can’t wait to see what kind of Soundless madness I could do in R7
hard cobalt
So will R7D1 be harder than R6D1?
fallow wasp
Depends on what the objectives are
craggy orbit
We won’t be able to make individual comparisons like that ‘til we have the new levels, really
hard cobalt
Ya, it was a rhetorical
manic spire
i can see code checkpoint cheese either being actually technically fixed or we'l...
I'm all for that lol. But I doubt they just won't have checkpoints on certain levels
tough badger
So will R7D1 be harder than R6D1?
most likely. it's also probable they'll keep the first of each tier easier than normal tho to continue to act as pseudo-tutorials
manic spire
So will R7D1 be harder than R6D1?
R6D1 is not a D level
hallow lark
R6D1 is not a D level
It was not hard enough for it to be a D level
loud frost
D lorevel
hard cobalt
Well, semantics but I understand what you mean
tough badger
I'm all for that lol. But I doubt they just won't have checkpoints on certain le...
c3 this rundown shouldn't have had a checkpoint and i hope if they do another warden protocol they'll remedy that. they really do not need saves lmao
hard cobalt
I have only completed R6 (only story, not full complete) even though I have played a few levels on previous rundowns
manic spire
at best it was a C level
hallow lark
I still feel like R7 is a Schaffer-controlled rundown
manic spire
But tbh when i started it would have been a B level.
atomic escarp
c3 checkpoint can easily screw you if a wave spawns ahead of you
tough badger
c3 this rundown shouldn't have had a checkpoint and i hope if they do another wa...
i do love that they put a class fucking 1 alarm on it tho just to make sure it's the most borked checkpoint in existence
hallow lark
Since it doesn’t feel like a Warden one
manic spire
I have only completed R6 (only story, not full complete) even though I have play...
That's pretty different from full completion.
hard cobalt
Of course, just stating my experience
I do, in fact, understand C2 and C3 are not C1
tough badger
the rundown is still hard by most gaming standards and not everyone has had the time to really dig into it like the rest of us with way too much free time
hallow lark
True
tough badger
story completion is pretty passable imo
hallow lark
And this game isn’t really for people who can’t hear
manic spire
Yeah but I'm not playing gtfo to be judged by animal crossing standards.
i'm judging it by GTFO standards.
hallow lark
But hey, it’s been VERY fun
tough badger
judge the rundown not the players lmao
story completion this rundown should be good prep through at least B-tier for r7
hallow lark
I do know for one thing… there is something in R7 that I will enjoy
hard cobalt
Also, even experienced fps players are not able to simply clear the levels A1-D1 without learning the gtfo systems.
manic spire
Also, even experienced fps players are not able to simply clear the levels A1-D1...
Which is good
well it would be
hard cobalt
This game is hard compared to games, generally
hallow lark
This game is hard compared to games, generally
It DOES require a bit of time to find the groove
hard cobalt
I'm just saying that because a vocal minority here complains about how easy the game is
And that is so very not true
candid dragon
this game isnt strictly very hard.
there are a lot of things that should not happen in a regular game, however.
hexed vapor
The vocal minority meme.
manic spire
I'm just saying that because a vocal minority here complains about how easy the ...
We're comparing it to itself in the past. Easy is relative.
hard cobalt
And I very much appreciate how gtfo forces player cooperation.
Some may be comparing to previous rundowns. I know some here do indeed say the game is just too easy, generally
hallow lark
Can’t wait to see what R7 logs are… well… except for the audio logs… they’re a pain and unhearable
nocturne flax
we dont really complain that its easy, we really DO complain about developer absence for 6 + months and slow bug fixing
candid dragon
in terms of games i've put real sweat into, this game is somewhere around mid tier difficulty. excluding games that scale infinitely.
manic spire
we dont really complain that its easy, we really DO complain about developer abs...
umm no.
We do complain about that lol
manic spire
Get this squishy moderate nonsense out of here.
nocturne flax
absence its more important 😔