gtfo-spoiler-chat

[kind surge]

don't use bots.. they aren't as good as players, especially with the later levels

[atomic escarp]

Yeah

[kind surge]

some sections almost impossible

[royal lichen]

wow <impressed>

[kind surge]

like d3 overload

[atomic escarp]

I posted in media

[kind surge]

literally impossible without at least 2 people

or cheese

[next rapids]

are you sure about that

[kind swan]

Not impossible

Just harder

[atomic escarp]

They very janky and I hate it

[next rapids]

hinoki cough cough

[kind surge]

an error alarm and sneaking through a tank room? yes.

unless CHEESE i said

[royal lichen]

tnenpi or hinoki did.. killed the tank barracks many times over :)

[kind swan]

Lol

[royal lichen]

(animal)

[atomic escarp]

I saw hinoki doing overload d3 was very impressed

[plush basin]

those guys are something else

[kind surge]

thats not a good standard to set.

[kind swan]

Still it isnt "Impossible" like you said

[kind surge]

like a full team of NFL players against middleschoolers

functionally impossible for them

[next rapids]

just git gud

[kind swan]

It's just helluva lot harder

[next rapids]

if you can't do it, it's skill issue

xD

[kind swan]

Skissue af

[kind surge]

i don't like your tone

[kind swan]

Better than saying it's impossible

[plush basin]

spreading misinformation smh

[atomic escarp]

I wanna try c3 with bots next, any tips

[plush basin]

You should take a mine deployer

[royal lichen]

whats fun is kiting ur own bots :D take detours and jump over railings etc then stop and time how long it takes for their pathing to catch up :) .. or if a bot is running at you w/ a resource in hand, just backpedal away from him.. he's following u w/ serious shakes :D

[atomic escarp]

I always take mine deployer

[next rapids]

xD

[plush basin]

Well besides that how you play it is pretty different depending on if you're doing just main or the optionals

If you're doing main you want to stretch out your resources a bit, if doing the optionals you need to zoom zoom

[atomic escarp]

Also is it known that cfoam grenades on bots dissappear when using checkpoints?

[kind swan]

I dont use bots enough to know

[atomic escarp]

Had one on hakket but gone

[plush basin]

Yeah I've got no idea either

[kind swan]

But my assumption is they picked up something else in place of it

Or more checkpoint bot bug

[atomic escarp]

I did the first 5 terminals then checkpoint so alarm

[atomic escarp]

There was nothing in the area to pick between alarm door and checkpoint door

Actually 17hrs in gtfo

[obtuse surge]

also stop sliding when just running around

there's nothing that actually makes it worth it now

if you have the habit, break it

[plush basin]

Its a way of keeping your apm up in the quiet periods 🙂 (I don't slide at all)

[obtuse surge]

if you don't have the habit, don't get into it

[atomic escarp]

Noted

[plush basin]

My keybinds have always made sliding pretty much impossible and I got too used to them to switch off. Glad I feel like I'm not missing out so much now

[atomic escarp]

Which guns are good vs big chargers

[obtuse surge]

the speed buff from it before was actually noticeable

[atomic escarp]

I used a sniper sentry and spam hel gun

[obtuse surge]

there's no noticeable benefits now

depending on how the speed limit actually affects it maybe its still worth it if you do long slides

sliding as long as possible before slowdown kicks in

i dont know when it kicks in but i would honestly guess instantly

[royal lichen]

hel gun or chokemod my humble recommends, if a charger wave, helgun most def.. paired w/ hel revo, penetrates one, stagger city

alltho staggered chargers side step a few sometimes, time to reposition..

[atomic escarp]

My aim is not the best but I can deal with few of em, problem is bots only shoot when enemy is in mid range and sometimes they let them get in melee range

[nocturne flax]

If your playing with bots you might as well just take dmr sniper

you'll be the one dealing with giants and such

[atomic escarp]

Then switch to hammers and take their sweetest time to kill em

[obtuse surge]

ok so after testing it properly sliding will be worth it if you slide long

so a lot different from what it used to be

because it seems to keep you at 100% speed for a while

[atomic escarp]

Sniper can 1 shot big chargers?

[nocturne flax]

no

1 mag tho

but big chargers are pretty rare this rundown

[atomic escarp]

OK that's a lot of ammo

[nocturne flax]

ehh

not really

[atomic escarp]

Well d2 had plenty for me

[nocturne flax]

oh if its d2 yeah bring a helgun

[atomic escarp]

Zone before 6 chargers scouts and 2 terminals and blood door alarm

[nocturne flax]

yeah d2 its charger central

bring a helgun in that level

[atomic escarp]

5 then 4 inside blood door

[nocturne flax]

whats your bot loadout tho

[atomic escarp]

I let me see

[obtuse surge]

try to get behind them if they're sleeping

so you can save half the ammo

[atomic escarp]

Bullpup, revolver
Assault rifle, Buckland
Hel revolver, heavy assault rifle

Bio, 2 sniper sentry and I had the mine deployer

[nocturne flax]

are you 3 botting it?

[next rapids]

you should bring cfoam yoo

[atomic escarp]

I did finish it only main tho

Yeah 3 bots

[kind swan]

Hel revo is the best main for them in D2 isnt it?

Or Dmr

[nocturne flax]

Burst rifle be the best everywhere

[atomic escarp]

Not sure what is good for what yet

[nocturne flax]

primary wise

[atomic escarp]

Hel gun did me good with dmr

[kind swan]

Just because with those will at least stagger one shot

The full auto main weapons this Rundown are just lackluster compared to the semis

But they are the easiest to use ofc

[nocturne flax]

for players yeah

but for bots you want to give a more sustainable approach

[kind swan]

Ye cause bot aimbot

[nocturne flax]

they dont really understand ammo balancing and obviously they dont know pen

[kind swan]

Then again if I give them a full auto. It's the HAR special

[nocturne flax]

either you shoot hacket by accident or he shoots you and dauda

[atomic escarp]

I ran out of ammo 4 times cuz I had to do the heavy lifting

[kind swan]

It's primarily for the stagger

And dmg per shot

[obtuse cedar]

idk all my experience with bots using pen weapons were : if they see an enemy and you are between them and said enemy... they will still shoot

[kind swan]

Also because they seem to use weapons within effective ranges so DMR would have them shooting targets further away

[nocturne flax]

i mean they just shoot normally, they dont actively line enemies up kekw

[atomic escarp]

Also how does the precision multiplier works

[kind swan]

Headshot

[nocturne flax]

burst rifle and machinegun still my go to since its just a lot of damage and ammo and you can just feed them like 1 ammo each per 2 zones

[silent kettle]

it multiplies damage

smile

[kind swan]

This is either a balance to the weapon or a damage bonus

[atomic escarp]

And vs chargers?

[silent kettle]

they dont have

[nocturne flax]

chargers dont have pre multi

[kind swan]

Chargers have no head multi

Only back

[nocturne flax]

they do recieve back damage

[obtuse cedar]

the bot with bio i prefer giving him HAR since he doesn't have that much time to shoot the MG

[silent kettle]

they dont have tumor either

so sad

[kind swan]

Also note. Back dmg is not where you shoot. It's based on your position behind them

[atomic escarp]

No wonder I triggered the charger scout behind blood door

[kind swan]

Like if you are to their side and shoot the back. Depending on the enemy. It wont be considered back dmg

[nocturne flax]

It happens

[kind swan]

Iirc that one. The mine kills all the active chargers. Then there are sleeping giant chargers. And the Charger scout can be in that room or in the terminal room

[atomic escarp]

Had him right in the room alongside 4 big chargers

[kind swan]

If it's in the sleeping giant charger room. Dont shoot at all. Let the mine kill active chargers.

[atomic escarp]

Had to pull bigs 1 by 1 from a distance

[kind swan]

This one is rough because of the chargers coming from behind unless someone defends at the 5 scan door

In terms of solo bots strats idk

But for pubs I typically defend at the 5 multi scan door by myself while the other 3 move forward toward the terminal

[atomic escarp]

Used 2 snipers sentries to deal with error chargers, but the big ones i hate em

[kind swan]

Yeah. If unlucky you get a big charger in the error wave

[atomic escarp]

Is it possible to melee sleeping big chargers?

[nocturne flax]

keeping it real wichu if you trying to get extreme completition then go to lfg, its not really worth to hassle with bots for so long

[kind swan]

Yeah with bots it's a real challenge

[nocturne flax]

if your doing it for the challenge go ahead

[kind swan]

Since bots dont do terminals

[nocturne flax]

but they really half ass right now

[kind swan]

Yeee

[atomic escarp]

I was gonna try it but I didn't know how I could deal with tank without sniper so I just went main

[kind swan]

Flyers only

[nocturne flax]

like you get 80% below health and suddenly all bots with medipacks have the urge to ignore all the sleepers to heal you

[kind swan]

When the bots ignore all enemies just to revive you and die doing so

[nocturne flax]

they did change that only 1 bot now but, i think they all still drop everything to path to you until one bot triggers the revive trigger

[nocturne flax]

#guides-and-reviews message

[kind swan]

Kek. They died one after another.

Reviver dies so the other does the same and then the last one also dies

Kek

[nocturne flax]

well thats because they where low already not really there fault................kind of

R.I.P bot hacket with bio tracker

plin plin plin plin

[kind swan]

Nah

They werent even low lol

[atomic escarp]

Normal bigs I can do but charger ones idk if possible

[nocturne flax]

I mean you need to have a big ol wave for them to down when reviving you 🤨

or a giant

[nocturne flax]

I just send you the guide if there something you wanna know or optimize

[atomic escarp]

Ah, much appreciated

[nocturne flax]

theyre neat, im just hoping they get uptdated next rundown

[atomic escarp]

One thing that I want is commands to directly tell em to pick resources

[nocturne flax]

they cant survive minibosses well (tank-mom), they have conflict of priorities all the time, biotracker bot its good at pinging but have to stop at every door to tell you if theres enemies

i could go on but then a dev would tell me i want to replace players and all my concerns are invalid

[atomic escarp]

I only have bio for bot is to ping, I don't wanna use it myself

[nocturne flax]

it better be hacket bot

plin plin plin plin

[atomic escarp]

I'm good at listening and can stealth my way through rooms unless some sleeper wakes up soo far

Dauda pings just fine

[nocturne flax]

DAUDA!!!

im sad

[atomic escarp]

Idk how fast tho but he doesn't keep it and not shoot

[nocturne flax]

they ping every like 6 seconds after a ping

[atomic escarp]

Also the constant voice lines is too much to handle

[nocturne flax]

they stop in their tracks to ping if their following you kek

[nocturne flax]

plin plin plin plin

give it to hacket bot

the bio

you wont regret it

😏

[atomic escarp]

I'll take your word for it

[nocturne flax]

its probably the best of the three of them

[errant vigil]

"hands of cocks"

[nocturne flax]

dauda just bitches too much
bishop panics and complains too much
hacket talks normally but spams it like a mofo

[nocturne flax]

According to the pinger we already dead

[errant vigil]

that one's good

[nocturne flax]

why do i look at this thing

plin plin

Plin plin plin

[silent kettle]

enough with the cryptic bullshit

[mossy marsh]

mfw unused voice lines

[cloud ibex]

did the devs just nerfed D2 extreme ?

[nocturne flax]

I would love a "sshh" command to tell my teammates to shut up

[mossy marsh]

unintentional nerf

[next rapids]

they did a oopsie

[cloud ibex]

wow it's sucks xd

[silent kettle]

r6 experience

hehe

[errant vigil]

they've done that before

[nocturne flax]

they did an oopsie (x8)

[nocturne flax]

r5d1 be like

[cloud ibex]

i was surrpirse because it's only filer xD

[silent kettle]

we love flyers

(cope)

[mossy marsh]

we love mono builds

[errant vigil]

one of the fun alarms in D1 ruined

[silent kettle]

fun in r5d1

smile

[kind swan]

"ARSE OVER TITS"

[errant vigil]

Post nerf D1 extreme

[atomic escarp]

How did they nerf secondary d2?

[cloud ibex]

which alarm was nerfed in r5d1 ?

[kind swan]

Uplink only have flyers now

It was unintentional so it's a bug

[atomic escarp]

Wait for real?

[nocturne flax]

bot friendly tho

[kind swan]

Ye

[errant vigil]

Key zones for BC scan

[kind swan]

Hasnt been fixed yet

[atomic escarp]

I could of had a shot at it

[nocturne flax]

go at it

[next rapids]

i think they don't know how to xD

[atomic escarp]

Do I have to

[cloud ibex]

they fixed the flyer bug but d2 extreme ?

[silent kettle]

if you want the drip

[atomic escarp]

2 alarms is too much

[cloud ibex]

wtf those clowns doing

[next rapids]

they didn't even know the uplinks were only spawning flyers until someone mentioned it here lmao

[silent kettle]

also hehe they turned my c level into a b level

so sad

[mossy marsh]

fog not rising in C2

[silent kettle]

[next rapids]

sus^

[cloud ibex]

fog not rising on d3 as well ?

[silent kettle]

[cloud ibex]

last night i had a run without fog after overload. my teammates as well

[fallow wasp]

we really need yes no and thanks voice lines in gtfo

the bots can say it

[kind swan]

As far as I know. Doc has seen the code causing it. Just depends when the fix will come

[next rapids]

oo

[kind swan]

[cloud ibex]

they were said no fix any thing in r6 and only focus the effort in r7 tho

xd

[kind swan]

I assume they might just keep it since R6 is easy enough as a Rundown.

[next rapids]

hey if we lucky r7 will be here in 2 months 🙏

[kind swan]

But yeah others will feel D2 is now too easy because of this bug

[kind swan]

Kek

[cloud ibex]

D lvl became a B lvl lmao

[kind swan]

Assuming they dont take a summer break

[next rapids]

xD

[mossy marsh]

Can we get more checkpoints like in CX?

:troll:

[next rapids]

like r5b1

[lethal lotus]

please god

[cloud ibex]

r5B2 ?

[next rapids]

yeye

[kind swan]

make every door a checkpoint

[atomic escarp]

You still have to get there

[mossy marsh]

Ah yes, game journalist mode

[kind swan]

Well of course. But the difficulty of D2 extreme is much easier now

Other people dont like that

[atomic escarp]

2nd hardest part for me was sneaking through the charger scouts for resources and 2 terminals

[kind swan]

That part isnt as bad as you'd think.

[cloud ibex]

not really if your teammates know what they doing

[atomic escarp]

Before checkpoint so I risk losing

[kind swan]

He's playing 3 bots khang

[cloud ibex]

except pubs

[atomic escarp]

Well bots

[cloud ibex]

oh ok

use c foam then

[atomic escarp]

Not confident enough to do that

[cloud ibex]

bot deffinitely know what they doing xd

[cloud ibex]

it only 3 blop

[kind swan]

At least bots dont trigger scouts

[cloud ibex]

u can practice C foam the normal scout

it the same as charger scout

[kind swan]

I could've sworn it was 4

Hmmm

[cloud ibex]

3 i could be wrong

depend if you are host because host c foam suck

[next rapids]

3

3 blobb

[atomic escarp]

Normal scout I can kill no c foam since I had to deal with them many times, charger ones only in d2 as far as I can tell

[cloud ibex]

i mean practice c foam the normal xD

if not as hard as you think

[atomic escarp]

If you say so

This my first rundown so bit nervous at times

[cloud ibex]

b2 is a good lvl for normal scout practice, d3 is for shadow scout , d2 for charger

take your time the game isnt run away from you

[atomic escarp]

Where scout in b2?

[cloud ibex]

resources room

[atomic escarp]

I did secondary but I didn't see single one unless I don't remember

[cloud ibex]

technicaly u dont need to go to that room

it just for resources

[next rapids]

yea

[next rapids]

at drop go left security door

[cloud ibex]

it ok i'm trash as well. only can solo d4 xD

[atomic escarp]

Oh I see

[next rapids]

if you are lucky scout will be in the second room past the security door

sometimes scout will spawn at the last room and you'll probably have to clear a room of giants to get to it 😵‍💫

[atomic escarp]

Is it intended that u can kill enemies with guns before security doors fully open?

[next rapids]

i don't think so

you can do that when the doors are closing as well

[atomic escarp]

Tried in d1 after I got a checkpoint kinda happy that it works that way

[atomic escarp]

The moment u press E?

[next rapids]

yea when the door is coming down

[errant vigil]

it's a cheese they haven't fixed

[next rapids]

it's a feature at this point xD

[silent kettle]

heh

[kind swan]

Closing door and sniping scout = Suppressed Sniper

[silent kettle]

Snuper

[kind swan]

[silent kettle]

i love stealing tanks tumors for free like in r4e1

[atomic escarp]

Do they not wake up cuz they dont die?

[silent kettle]

they wake up when theyre injured

but only once door is open

or smth around them dies

[errant vigil]

Door can be used multiple times

[atomic escarp]

Wouldnt it be easier to just go around and blast before he wakes up?

[errant vigil]

Oh for tank yea it's a one time thing cause he doesn't die

[silent kettle]

its useful for areas where bosses are insta alerted B)

free tumors

[thick burrow]

Sentry bug did not get fixed

Unless i missed a patch

[atomic escarp]

Yeah it is fixed

[thick burrow]

Oh wait

[dapper dagger]

spreading misinformation smh

[thick burrow]

Im thinking of another bug

Smh

[errant vigil]

back damage bug

[thick burrow]

Too many bugs to keep track of 😩

Did they fix the cfoam door bug?

[errant vigil]

No

[dapper dagger]

@bughunters

[errant vigil]

also wait which one

[dapper dagger]

im assuming the one that makes the broken door block enemies

[thick burrow]

The one where enemies get blocked

Yh

Let me reproduce it in a pub 😈

[royal lichen]

d4 walkthru cfoam door but only for host :)

"why cant i hammer this door... why can i walk thru this door.. follow me" - "i cant, door closed and frozen" - "kek"

[thick burrow]

Did u just roleplay

What the

[royal lichen]

inner dialogue, the best

[silent kettle]

main character

[thick burrow]

My turn

[errant vigil]

kaneki being weirded out by someone else KEKW

[dapper dagger]

do this during foreplay

[royal lichen]

and now: after 6 blobs all subsequent fly thru door

[dapper dagger]

i beg

[thick burrow]

Onii-chan 🥺🥺

NYYYYYAAAAAAA

[silent kettle]

never forget dead enemies remain pinged

[errant vigil]

pre R5 mines

[silent kettle]

REAL

[atomic escarp]

@nocturne flax melee wpns don't matter when giving to bots? Sry for ping

[thick burrow]

Daddy dragon papiiiiiiii 224 😩

[royal lichen]

same dmg but not sure about chargeup time..

(i do bot knives jic)

[atomic escarp]

Got it

I want to make sure I don't get 80% health gone to stagger a 2nd time

[nocturne flax]

Yeah they dont matter they all do the same damage

You can give dauda a knife and he will 2 shot a charger with it

[atomic escarp]

Alrighty

[nocturne flax]

They should have lock the bot melees to hammer only

[atomic escarp]

Wish u can mark sleepers for bots to melee when dealing with tight groups

[mossy yoke]

We tried that in testing but it was WAY too overpowered

[errant vigil]

Damn and Scattergun was added

You must have been able to kill tank in one shit

[thick burrow]

caca

[royal lichen]

"guys, i just killed a tank, that is all." :D

[thick burrow]

Kawai-desu ne 🥺

[atomic escarp]

It's the same with players no? Or is there another variable to it

[mossy yoke]

Well bots have some advantages to them that players don't so telling a bot to just go and silently clear a room was just way too easy and removed a lot of the difficulty

[atomic escarp]

Bots don't trigger sleepers when stealthing?

[royal lichen]

they physically crouchwalk thru a scout to get back to you

fire their guns on wakees, noone wakes etc

[atomic escarp]

Fair enough

[royal lichen]

they salvage stealth failures most times, unless one manages to scream before bonk

[atomic escarp]

Well that's too good, alright then

[nocturne flax]

They dont but depends on proximity

[atomic escarp]

I see

[hexed vapor]

I'm curious if people think the HEL Gun is a little OP rn, and how you would even go about nerfing it.

[kind swan]

[nocturne flax]

Theres no question

It is op

Same as hel rifle

[kind swan]

Slower rate of fire imo

[nocturne flax]

The original in r3 where more balance

[atomic escarp]

I haven't played much to say what's op and what's not

[hexed vapor]

Fuck, I hated the HEL weapons back then, but actually might be true.

[atomic escarp]

What would u recommend for bots for c3

[hexed vapor]

BR + MG or Bullpup + HAR

[atomic escarp]

HAR?

[hexed vapor]

Bio, sentries, mines, all good. If you want c-foam, have it on a player, as c-foam is shit on C-foam if you're not applying it in small amouns.

Heavy Assault Rifle

BR is Burst Rifle

[nocturne flax]

On their current state its just too good, they deal with pretty much everything, yes theres more fun factor in the other guns but when ut comes to been efficient hel weaponry its just too powercreep

[kind swan]

Battle Royale

[kind surge]

battle rifle

[kind swan]

😏

[atomic escarp]

Gotcha

[hexed vapor]

I dunno about that one, HEL Gun is fun af

[nocturne flax]

The old version atleast would allow some enemies to past trough

[hexed vapor]

I've been using it in [redacted] and holy shit do I feel cracked.

[nocturne flax]

Helgun. Was just revo that penetrates, now its just a straight up upgrade

[kind swan]

:v

[nocturne flax]

Hel rifle didnt oneshot chargers but fire faster i believe and it didnt pen too much even in perfect conditions

[atomic escarp]

Is it possible to do secondary and overload c3 with bots?

[nocturne flax]

Hel weaponry (and their buffs) kinda ruin the balance of the sleepers

[nocturne flax]

I think you can

Theres nothing thats like teamwork oriented there tbh

Apart from like 2 tanks

And maybe permafoaming in overload

[atomic escarp]

How do you get prisoners efficiency

You just do everything or?

[nocturne flax]

Yes

Do all sidw objectives in one go

[atomic escarp]

No timer on it?

[nocturne flax]

I mean theres rising fog in PE

So yeah there is a timer kekw

[kind swan]

PE =Main, Secondary, overload completions in one run

Missions with Main and Secondary aren't considered PE

[atomic escarp]

OK then, thanks

[hexed vapor]

Tbf, [redacted] so far has had a fuck ton of ammo, but a lot of reasons to use it, so maybe I'm overestimating the ammo it gets.

At the same time, even if vanilla isn't as challenging, the weapon still feels strong af.

[nocturne flax]

If you do a back to the future, and change it you will realize its still fucking OP

[hexed vapor]

What was its old damage?

[nocturne flax]

Same as revo

For what i remember

[hexed vapor]

I think in R3 it was probably losing out on some combo potential.

Because I think something that feels really good about it is weapon swapping.

[nocturne flax]

Pump canceling its better

🥵

[hexed vapor]

13 damage, so it still gets the combo w/ semi-auto Mains.

At least until they also get nerfed

but I imagine you'd just need to switch up playstyle.

No biggy

[regal thicket]

how many waves are there on cx ex

[half hornet]

A lot

Infinite i believe

[regal thicket]

is it 4 waves of regulars + 4 giants, then 4 shadow giants then 4 waves of shadows then after 10 mins, shadow error

[queen field]

Something like that

[fierce laurel]

lots

[silent kettle]

lots

[kind swan]

lots

[atomic escarp]

lots?

[half hornet]

How long does DX takes?...

I'd like to attempt one tonight, but i would like to also go to sleep in like... An hour

[regal thicket]

30 mins

checkpoint not included

[kind swan]

kek

for speedrunners

[plush basin]

It does actually seem like a pretty short level for the d tier

[nocturne flax]

story level*

[plush basin]

Just beat it with my team and the vast majority of the 2 hours was spent on replaying the final segment

[nocturne flax]

invisible closed door in hybrid room

😔

[plush basin]

The classic

[sleek bramble]

bx cx dx missions any good?

[mossy marsh]

depends who you ask

[sleek bramble]

have they got any boss fights in 'em?

[mossy marsh]

sort of

[mortal portal]

BX is big striker bullying simulator, CX is just another episode of Ghostbusters, then there's DX... That one deserves its own SCP page

[sleek bramble]

sad. hope there are more bossfights in the next rundown

[mossy marsh]

more simon drums

[mortal portal]

I will be very sad if there's no pMom in R7

[mossy marsh]

pDad when?

[mortal portal]

Charger charger charger charger shadow flying pMom Tank

[mossy marsh]

steve

[sleek bramble]

i just wanna fight two big vaginas at once

[fierce laurel]

???!?

[obtuse surge]

it does kinda look like it (never seen a woman)

[silent kettle]

especially when mom throbbing animatiom

[fallow meadow]

Anyone who has beaten DX what’s the best strategy or gimmick for the Alpha 3 section. My group is getting hung up on that part pretty hard

[steep lake]

2 burst sentries & 2 quick wave clearing weapons like helgun/shotgun helps if you are getting overwhelmed,

I also recommend doing middle, top & bottom terminal to avoid stacking of uplink waves

[fallow meadow]

Alright we will give that a try, thanks for the help

[regal thicket]

charger flyers start spawning after 1 uplink is done so that's a consideration

[hallow lark]

Well…. Our team went 1 Bio and 3 sentries

[hallow lark]

Huh… I didn’t know that one. Good to know

[vernal bone]

2x burst sentries, 1x Mines, 1x Foam and one player with sniper.

[queen field]

You can go 3 burst sentries if you want

It'll still work

[bold widget]

4 bio

[fallow wasp]

I recommend turning all your graphic settings down before doing DX

[fierce laurel]

optimization at it's finest

[kind swan]

max settings

😏

Tryna melt my computer like Modded RTX Minecraft

[chrome abyss]

Can anyone advise when the CX checkpoint scan is?

[fierce laurel]

I want to say before the apex door

but I dont remember

[chrome abyss]

We got to the bit with endless waves of shadows and 4 passwords without hitting it so just curious how far from it we were 😦

Well, we completed that, got to the next section and wiped

[regal thicket]

cx checkpoint is when you did both power supply command

it's literally at the end of the level, gl lole

[chrome abyss]

Oh, so we were super close when we wiped then. That sucks >.<

[candid dragon]

directly before extraction iirc.

[fierce laurel]

so it's just for extreme then

that's an f

[candid dragon]

literally just for extreme

might as well be a different level tbh

[chrome abyss]

Dang that's....that's rough

[candid dragon]

you could roundaboutly say Cx is the only main ever to not have a checkpoint.

thankfully cx main portion is pretty easy.

[chrome abyss]

We went in blind not knowing what to expect so not salty about wiping, just salty about wiping that close to the end

[fierce laurel]

maybe gtfo is returning to it's prime

[chrome abyss]

The non-checkpoint days were a stress haha

[fierce laurel]

it do be like that sometimes 😔

we go again!

[candid dragon]

happened to me on the first go around, then had to skip extr cause didnt have what was needed.

[chrome abyss]

Nah it was bedtime when we wiped lol I was like this is a tomorrow problem

[fierce laurel]

what do you mean didn't have what was needed

[candid dragon]

kinda stumbled drunkenly through the level and misallocated resources.

[fierce laurel]

oh

just bonk all of tem

[candid dragon]

knife.

[chrome abyss]

you cant bonk ghosties?

[fierce laurel]

yeah

[chrome abyss]

I know, I tried last night lol

[candid dragon]

easily.

[regal thicket]

even better

[chrome abyss]

Whaaaaaa

[mossy yoke]

[fierce laurel]

hi badger

[regal thicket]

you can unironically solo a wave with knife

[fierce laurel]

^ this man gets it

[chrome abyss]

I had a hammer, that explains things

[regal thicket]

if you don't miss a single head

[fierce laurel]

use hammer

knife is for badger

[chrome abyss]

I tried beating them with a hammer nothing happened

[regal thicket]

only 2 scouts

why even

[candid dragon]

honestly, the 2 scouts are a total joke tbh.

[chrome abyss]

I had zero ammo and a hammer that was not hammering

[fierce laurel]

well you have to make sure you aren't spamming it

and that you're hitting their head

[chrome abyss]

A ghost?

[fierce laurel]

a good half charge to the head sends them to horny jail

the shadows ye

[chrome abyss]

Oh snaps

[candid dragon]

👻

[regal thicket]

if you want, you can do the funny

[chrome abyss]

I was just running and swinging trying to flee

Cuz I was the last one standing

[fierce laurel]

oo

[regal thicket]

shadow sequence skip both sides

[fierce laurel]

just run in that case

[chrome abyss]

I tried, I had no chance lol

[fierce laurel]

run faster

[regal thicket]

so you get 2 use from spawn, 4 use after class 5, 4 uses in 2 term zone

[fierce laurel]

move those leggs

[candid dragon]

you can skip half the blood doors if you have two letters anyway

[regal thicket]

and 6 use in bulkhead zone

[chrome abyss]

wait what

WHAT

[fierce laurel]

well if you can guess the word

[chrome abyss]

Ah

I wasn't the PC person last night

[fierce laurel]

yeah sometimes you can guess sometimes you can't

[chrome abyss]

So I have no idea what he was seeing

[fierce laurel]

I like putting mines on the doors and pulling all 3 doors at once

makes it more fun

[candid dragon]

733 words, two letters narrows down your guesses to around 10.

[fierce laurel]

depends

it's an rng game

[atomic escarp]

Make it so that u need to get the password to let you type anything

[candid dragon]

unless its not two of the 4 letters highest on the histogram.

its around 10.

[chrome abyss]

Ah ok gotchya

[candid dragon]

the only obstacle is ||obtaining the wordlist||

[fierce laurel]

smh

shadows are still my favorite enemy

I still wonder to this day though why shadows have shadows

it dont mak senc

[candid dragon]

i want shadow chargers

shadow sniper melee

[fierce laurel]

oh no

shadow giant chargers

actually those used to exist

[candid dragon]

r2?

[fierce laurel]

yeah

[candid dragon]

yeah.

[fierce laurel]

I miss those days

sure were a surpise the first time I played R2E1

[nocturne flax]

rundown 697978

[atomic escarp]

It's like asking why fire doesn't have a shadow

[silent kettle]

they still do)

[fierce laurel]

they run so slow now

[silent kettle]

well considering u cant see them and sometimes they dont make stomps

cancer enough)

[kind swan]

casually see a tall red triangle storming at you

[silent kettle]

holding angle with primary weapon

-80 instant

[atomic escarp]

Okay, so, what is the actual objective of CX secondary?

Finding a bulkhead key before the time runs out?

[candid dragon]

finding the bulkhead key AFTER the time runs out.

[atomic escarp]

Oh, so survival for 10 minutes, then find bulkhead?

[candid dragon]

yes

although the waves keep going after 10 mins

[atomic escarp]

Mmh, is it doable for 2 average players?

[candid dragon]

and 2 bots?

[atomic escarp]

ya

[silent kettle]

should be fine

just need to feel comfortable around ||shadows||

[candid dragon]

probably not, cause the bots kinda dump resources instantly, rather than on something i actually want.

not too many resources on that floor. just an average amount.

although its doable.

[atomic escarp]

yeah, bots emptied their mags on the alarm before, but we do have two burst sentries

[silent kettle]

just make sure bot has bio

[hexed vapor]

Typically have one person defend w/ access to bio and one person goes deeper in to get cell.

Defender should carry the highest use ammo available to them.

The bulkhead room usually has one.

[candid dragon]

i usually just push as a party so the waves die very quickly.

[hexed vapor]

^ If you do that, use mines to wipe waves.

I prefer the defense strat personally, but I also thought CX Secondary was extremely easy.

HEL Gun destroys waves.

[silent kettle]

[candid dragon]

cx is basically r5b4 easy mode.

or whatever the last warden protocol was

[silent kettle]

ye that one

[mossy marsh]

just don't use hel gun

[silent kettle]

bring hel rifle from the grave

[candid dragon]

helgun fun destroyer

[silent kettle]

6 pierce (3.5 hehe)

[candid dragon]

i want scatter to have actual pierce

[kind swan]

When people wanted sniper to have penetration

Some people still say this now despite the description literally saying Hollow point rounds

(Hollow point rounds expand upon impact which makes them more lethal and prevent penetration for collateral damage)

[regal thicket]

ah yes

a high caliber hollow point round

[oblique zephyr]

The issue is, that's not entirely how it works in-game

For example, a hollow point round would really mess up a bunny head

But... they get on pretty fine without it

So how sniper 1 hit headshot?

[kind swan]

Bunny head?

[oblique zephyr]

Er, opposite chicken

Big striker

[kind swan]

I've heard someone call scouts hunters. And now theres another name I've never heard of

Bunny heads

[oblique zephyr]

Scouts are sisters

They just walk around and make sure all their little bros are sleeping and alright

Then call the parents if something's wrong

[kind swan]

But in terms of sniper one shotting Big strikers.

[next rapids]

bunny heads xd

[kind swan]

Some people snipe the neck region which still destroys the head hit box but isnt counted as a "Headshot"

So no precision bonus or headshot bonus

I've been telling people to aim for the top half of the head for a more guaranteed headshot

[oblique zephyr]

Yeah, top is better

Makes no lore sense, but in-game, its the way

Eyes-ish-area

[silent kettle]

headless giant licking you with neck shot
dead giant unable to lick you with head shot

[hexed sleet]

Has anyone been getting massive frame drops when getting teleported outside for the uplinks in DX?

[silent kettle]

ye thats a given

outside maps very unoptimized

-50fps for me

[hexed sleet]

Ya same, it's frustrating especially since it's the hardest part with the most pressure

Hope they deal with it in an upcoming patch

[silent kettle]

praying

[obtuse cedar]

I have my doubts about that... It will probably wait until r7

[queen field]

"r7"

lole

[royal lichen]

lol-e, a cute little post-apocalyptic robot desperately trying to find more frames per second

[half hornet]

Real talk which graphic settings improve FPS the most BESIDES resolution?

I found that turning textures from high to medium improved things a lot

Pretty much turned everything else to minimum as well, like shadow, for, yadi yada

Fog maps are cursed in particular

[queen field]

Shadow res

zamn

[mossy marsh]

time to make a tier list

:lenny:

[queen field]

There were more people watching babylon fall streams this morning than GTFO streams

😳

Now it's quite close

36 vs 48

[mossy marsh]

Performance hit from highest to lowest

• Fog resolution (w/fog diff samples)
• Shadow resolution
• SSAO
• Contact shadows
• Texture size
• Pretty much everything else (:troll:)

That's more or less, and I didn't pulled it out of my ass, I tested this shit some weeks ago

Texture size should really only affect if your are running out of GPU vram

SSAO gives a more impactful effect than contact shadows, but it tanks performance a lot more. Balancing between the 2 can get you the best of both worlds
Medium on them is usually decent enough for looks

And fog...just turn it down to hell
It won't tank your performance when the zone isn't saturated of it, but on rooms with thicc fog it will. (D4 moment)

[half hornet]

I guess I'll try turning off contact shadows

[obtuse surge]

imagine how easy dx would be if the game was playable

[silent kettle]

hehe

[candid dragon]

Cant wait for next gen hardware

[kind swan]

imagine how easy these missions would be if I could stop sniping my teammates or scattering them

smh

[candid dragon]

Got like 3k budget

[kind swan]

but can it handle RTX minecraft?

[candid dragon]

Yeah, probably.

[kind swan]

(Low key me and some other guys I met here might make a minecraft server we'll play on)

[candid dragon]

But i dont think ill ever play mc again

[kind swan]

lol

[candid dragon]

Played enough for a lifetime

[kind swan]

for me it was just like. one youtuber I watch did a april fools poll and one of the choice we had was a 3 hr unedited minecraft house tutorial

and it made me wanna go back to it

[next rapids]

i wanna play 😭

[kind swan]

But exc ain't got it and idk about lisdex

Unless it's on a sale it's like 30$

[next rapids]

get someone to host a private server, maybe we can make it a server for gtfo peeps haha

[kind swan]

[atomic escarp]

do i need multiple passwords for terminal in zone 183 cx?

[candid dragon]

Is that the hub room with the terminal in the center and alcove?

[atomic escarp]

yes

[candid dragon]

First error set is get 4 parts of one password

Next error set is 1 free letter + 3 blood doors for 1 terminal each bd

Letters are provided as x___

One terminal per letter

The second error terminal is a different password

[west umbra]

The second terminal where you need to input to code is different from the first one as it is in the corner of the hub bottom, right when you look in from the warden door I believe

[atomic escarp]

error alarms?

[candid dragon]

Alarms that do not stop, or are only stoppable by satisfying conditions

In this case, its entering a command

[atomic escarp]

oh ok, when do they happen?

[candid dragon]

First one when you enter command in scout room

Second is opening lockdown door in hub room

[atomic escarp]

the non checkpoint one?

[candid dragon]

Yes.

The checkpoint you get is after completing main

[west umbra]

did you complete CX?

[candid dragon]

Several times yeah?

If i got something wrong lemmie know

[west umbra]

I see I see, I started yesterday, and my group completed shutting off all of the error alarms but my idiot friend accidentally started the alarm right before the checkpoint and we ran out of ammo XDD

[west umbra]

naw I think u got everything right

[atomic escarp]

so there 2 terminals in hub room one in the middle and one u get to in a secret room

by a ladder

[candid dragon]

Yes

Center first

[atomic escarp]

both say password

[candid dragon]

Yes. Both have different passwd

[atomic escarp]

bit confusing

[candid dragon]

Not really

[atomic escarp]

so when rerouting the power i look for how many terminals for password for the center terminal?

[candid dragon]

4 for both

[atomic escarp]

ok so 2 in the door sec door that opens when first error right?

[candid dragon]

8 terminals total overall

Because two passwords 4 letter each

[atomic escarp]

so each terminal has a log with a letter in it

[candid dragon]

Yes.

[atomic escarp]

4 terminals in each door left and right looking at the terminal (hub)

[candid dragon]

First error is 1 zone total

Second error is 4 zones, 1 term per zone

[atomic escarp]

shadows i assume for error right? and when does each error stop

[half heart]

Just kite :)

[candid dragon]

After entering the terminal command after unlocking terminal

And yes, all shadows

[atomic escarp]

gotcha

[atomic escarp]

2 shadow giants ok thats not bad as i expected

wiped tho cuz i was out of ammo and had to melee but i see what i gotta do

question is can there be more than 2 at a time

[royal lichen]

if no kill then yea, there'll be more, 2 at a time on a timer (afaik)

run 3 first, put down sentry when room clear and going to terminal, after 3 might be obvious w/o the 4th, like w-ve, skip the last one go back

[candid dragon]

Waves can build up from errors, yes, but they wont queue past cap

[regal thicket]

this is so sad

i had to kill a tank solo with har hel rev

[wary olive]

You wouldn't have to do that in matchmaking

[royal lichen]

stacking waves to be avoided, not fun to delay and delay, then expect 4 but 12 run in

[atomic escarp]

not bad to deal with

gotta dodge and melee

is the 2nd error alarm also giants?

[candid dragon]

Its either giants or smalls randomly

[atomic escarp]

do u know how many smalls?

[royal lichen]

6-10 afair

small ish waves

[paper flame]

where be the chargers

[fierce laurel]

behind you

[silent kettle]

next to me

[atomic escarp]

should be a breeze then

[obtuse surge]

bro please remove infection drunk effect

or make the crosshair move with it

[royal lichen]

terminal distortion worst, ping that medi quick.. ping medipack_%#€

[kind swan]

When you're the guy doing uplink with infection blurs

😏

[obtuse surge]

it makes you no longer shoot in middle of screen

also with melee

ads helps for guns

but you cant ads with melee

so literally just deal with it

[worldly cargo]

just start touch typing easy B)

[devout flicker]

2 mine deployers on CX Secondary is easy mode

finished without firing a single shot at the error wave until we got the cell

[snow geyser]

what's the best strat for dx terminal uplinks, curious what people found success with

[fossil jetty]

Personally, I think it’s best just to go in order. Bottom, mid, top

It’s the pathing that’s hard

Found out yesterday that theres multiple ways to get to another terminal…

[snow geyser]

yeah that was going to be my next question, what pathing works the best? feels like everyone gets caught at the ladder inside

[fossil jetty]

For me, I would go up the ladder to the right of the first terminal, then cover others for the second ladder behind the door at the corner

It’s like the second ladder in the cave area

Good choke point on the bottom and top of ladder

With resources in the cave most of the time

[snow geyser]

gonna give it a shot, appreciate it

[fossil jetty]

Np

[mint pilot]

What is specimen 22

[royal lichen]

lotsa talk and speculation about it on #gtfo-lore , ctrl-f "mimic" there (not necessarily the mimic, speculation)

[hallow lark]

For me and my team… we did Top-Mid-Bottom and 3 sentries

[half mortar]

si CX secondary hard fellas/

liek are we goinna struggle with 50% hp on everyone/

[royal lichen]

it's okay, just be quick, after the time is up, the error is no fun 🙂

[half mortar]

what

does that mean

[royal lichen]

so at 0:00 open the door and get the bulk key

error alarm == waves coming at you for the rest of level

[half mortar]

if we try it does the bulkead reset in the room before./

[royal lichen]

the enemies spawn fromElevator so u can do d3 all over, split up defender / cell fetchers

if u fail it and wanna go main only, u can, just don't scan secondary after cp

[half mortar]

yeah that was bruta

idkw aht you were talking about king

[wary olive]

mr black dragon did you remove your video in #gtfo-media or was it deleted by mods?

[nocturne flax]

Deleted by mods, its been sorted out in mod mail. Its fine

[wary olive]

why was it deleted?

[nocturne flax]

Content that was under nda shows in the video, they as a moderation team have to delete it, its understandable

[wary olive]

BH stuff?

[nocturne flax]

Dont want to make a big deal out of it neither, the message of the video its clear as day

[wary olive]

remove the NDA stuff and reupload and repost

🙂

[nocturne flax]

It doesnt change anything

[wary olive]

BH stuff aside, i think your thoughts about the current state of the level/rundown difficulty is something that some newer players are not aware of

and its a view shared by almost all of the experienced crowd

[atomic escarp]

You made me curious now, what was the video about?

In private if you feel so

[wary olive]

about the current state of the game basically

[queen field]

send in DM please 😳

[half hornet]

Question: how many shots Heavy AR takes to kill a strike with bodyshots?

No head / back, straight in the chest

[velvet flower]

4 if no dmg falloff

[half hornet]

Alright, thanks

[obtuse surge]

DAMN u guys fix the cheese on C1

still not playing as intended tho

we just sidewalk dodge all of them now

[next rapids]

there are other spots left

[kind swan]

basically HAR does 5 damage per shot. striker has 20hp

I'm not sure how much damage it is to break striker heads though

4 I'm assuming because of pistol

[arctic nexus]

for cx is the passwords the same for both terminal codes every run?

[fierce laurel]

no

it's chosen at random from a pool of 733 words

so each terminal will have a different code

and those terminals will have uniques codes each run too

checkpoints will keep the terminal codes the same, though this isn't a problem in CX

[arctic nexus]

are both codes on 1st door or 1 on left one on right

[fierce laurel]

yes

[arctic nexus]

so both 1st door

[craggy orbit]

The locations are consistent

[manic spire]

no, one on each door

[urban swan]

I attempted d3 we got through the funny room alright but on the class 6 alarm we got downed by shadows any tips on that alarm?

[arctic nexus]

ty @manic spire

[next rapids]

just shoot

[craggy orbit]

If you don’t have a bio: have a bio

[urban swan]

We had one person run bio but it just wasn't enough

[next rapids]

run 2 bio then

[urban swan]

Yeah we could

[craggy orbit]

2 bio is not a bad option, especially if you’re not used to dealing with shadows

[urban swan]

I really like shadows but the fog makes them impossible to see

[craggy orbit]

Fog at the class 6?

[urban swan]

Yeah we are sneaking through the funny room really slowly

[real moss]

sneak faster, you should not see fog at the class 6

[vague mauve]

You really need to do it faster

[atomic escarp]

Why should one need to sneak faster, I thought this is a stealth-oriented game, shouldn't one take it as slow as possible

[next rapids]

you will see once you get to further levels

[real moss]

if you've played D3 PE you would know 🙂

[atomic escarp]

I have never

[vague mauve]

It is fine, D3 is a level for player who have played old rundown, you should try at least you finish story level

[atomic escarp]

How can I play this D3 level

Where can I do it

[cloud ibex]

after you beaten enough lvls to unlock it

or just join into a random lobbies

[atomic escarp]

What is the quota for the "enough levels" to unlock it

[cloud ibex]

it's showing on the rundown status.

[atomic escarp]

I do not see it

[cloud ibex]

mission require to unlock something likes that

i do not know how to explain .RIP

[vague mauve]

[atomic escarp]

Sorry, I am too vegetable

[vague mauve]

When they played story level, they will know what you mean

[atomic escarp]

Story levels?

A1,B1,C1,D1

And to some extent the X levels qualify too I guess

What's the difference?

They are more story-lore-whatever focused and have more error margin

D1 has like 4-5 checkpoints

[cloud ibex]

does it actually ? i played it once lol

and 1 reactor skip

[mossy yoke]

Completing A1 unlocks B1
Completing B1 unlocks B2 and C1
Completing C1 unlocks C2 and C3 and D1
Completing D1 unlocks D2, D3, and D4

Completing BX unlocks CX
Completing CX unlocks DX

@atomic escarp the unlock requirement should be shown under the level name

[atomic escarp]

Wait so BX is always unlocked?

[mossy yoke]

yes

[atomic escarp]

Should be 5 checkpoints

I am going to play D1 now, I want to try this D3 level

Before reactor, Before the foggy server room, in the scout fun zone, before terminal and after warden door

[vague mauve]

3 checkpoint

Wait

4

Include the reactor one

Damn

Is 5 total

[atomic escarp]

It has 5 I'm pretty sure

[vague mauve]

I always forget the warden door one

[cloud ibex]

ironically i played d3 pe & d4 50 times and only complete d1 one

[atomic escarp]

It's basically a checkpoint everytime there's something vaguely interesting

[vague mauve]

But D1 is not interesting except reactor skip

[atomic escarp]

D1 was really difficult, I got carried very hard

[half hornet]

D1 is weird and very gear / luck sensitive

My 1st attempt with randoms was actually a success

Then i tried again for fun and we got rocked hard in server room scan

We got cucked on health, ammo, tool ammo, everything. On top of that i brought a sniper sentry which was AMAZING for reactor defense but was utterly worthless for the server room because it has no time to aim at anything. My gun choices had a similiar issue. We just got overrun and there was nothing we could do about it. After 3 attempts we gave up.

TL:DR - it's better to be geared up for the server room scan specifically, than anything else.

[royal lichen]

that class v (?) is murder, get swarmed easily

after that the 2+3 scout thing is actually pretty ez fun, and the warden scan is okay w/ right tools and some cfoam

[half hornet]

That server room is the only place in the game where auto supression turrets come in real handy

[royal lichen]

but yea i agree that scan is imho the hardest part of the level, even kraken is trivial with the right coverspot, dem horizontal salvos were murder until saw someone use the shack

we've only done burst sentries but we also got very tool dry doing that scan

[atomic escarp]

We woke up 4 scouts and just shoot

Surprisingly we didn't seem to run out of ammo or tool even before fighting the boss(?)

I don't know how you call it, because it doesn't feel like one

[half hornet]

No-no, it definetely meets the criteria of a boss, just not a good one

[west umbra]

tbh

I feel like they gave us too many resources during the boss

[royal lichen]

key is speed, finding the blisters asap, otherwise flyer and salvo hell

[mossy echo]

Discovered a trick in BX last stage that just prevents the wave from spawning

Easy win but not very satisfying

[candid dragon]

What trick would that be

[atomic escarp]

😂

Exploits not fun

[urban swan]

But there is always something croaking in funny room

[vague mauve]

i mean you can do the order :main overlaod extreme

then fog wont be a problem

but depend do you want to cheese

[mossy echo]

I'd be willing to share only for ''bug report'' purposes, but its not too difficult to figure out

Tbh I regret doing it that way

I had no satisfaction out of it so I'll probably be replaying it

[candid dragon]

feel free to dm me it or not, i dont go around repro in lobbies. i just like to keep track of the big bugs to see if they get fixed or not.

reminds me that i should check on the door bug, havent checked that one in a while.

[fallow wasp]

So next rundown can we get sick puffer jackets for completing all the PEs?

[candid dragon]

honestly, there should have been something for doing everything rather than just all highs

[fallow wasp]

I personally really enjoy the “badge of completion” cosmetics they have right now

In the pink palette and neat mask

[candid dragon]

same tbh, but i wish they bundle them with a random roll.

[errant vigil]

I just want to be able to clean the shit off my clothes so I can see the palettes I use

[fallow wasp]

As long as next rundown has completion badge cosmetics besides a mask and palette I’m groovin

[errant vigil]

More specific clothing would also be nice, but that might cause bugs so maybe not

[urban swan]

My group is anti cheese

[vague mauve]

then sneck fast

[worldly current]

Where can I go to find what the whole map looks like for certain levels, for example, the whole map of R6C2?

[sacred flame]

Whole map as in the entire map on map view is mapped out? Search on google for reddit posts of the maps. Whole map as in go in game and noclip around and see the maps physically? You'd have to use certain mods for that.

[craggy orbit]

Alternatively, you can kinda soft-map levels out yourself using the terminals in-game, though it’s a lot of using query on security doors

It’s a little tedious and I do not blame anyone for not wanting to do that, lol

[worldly current]

Yeah, I meant for the whole map area to be mapped out. I was able to find the mapped out areas on the steam guides section for GTFO

[half hornet]

Well that went nowhere

DX run abandoned

The finale was rough

This is the last time when i play anything else but assault rifles

[jolly perch]

is it just me or does C2 extreme feel extremely unforgiving?

like, the 3 hybrids every ~45 seconds seems a bit much

[craggy orbit]

It is definitely a little rude, it basically hard-requires at least one sniper

[jolly perch]

dont know if it felt that way because i was playing with bots though

[kind swan]

With bots ofc it's more difficult

[royal lichen]

once the hybes get close and bots break out their melees.... gaaahhh

[quaint stag]

So at the end of (Dx) when you get warped to Mars or wherever. Are the waves endless? Is it easier to thoom and hope for the best or setup a good defensive position and wait it out?

[royal lichen]

the flyers don't stop

[kind swan]

You have to do 3 uplinks

Otherwise they dont stop

[quaint stag]

Ok ty

[royal lichen]

uplink waves do, i recommend top-mid-bottom, cos if you start bottom, you'll be waiting like ~2 minute for the entire uplink horde to reach u.. and, if so, don't take the ladder. run past it to the actual stairs, won't get pincered as hard

[quaint stag]

Ok! I'll try that out thanks! Our first attempt of Dx we wasted way too much ammo early on. Set off all the scouts in the stealth scan room but decided to keep playing anyways.

[royal lichen]

open the lockers before first uplink, there's like 6 uses available for every uplink

lock melters might come in handy tho, some hacklocks

... and we did the same, charger scout 3 2 1 hit <klonk> <0,8 seconds> <klonk> == most ammo tool gone, cool (full charges ofc)

[vernal raptor]

Can anyone give me some advice for the end of Dx? Me and my team have been struggling hella hard with the last area with all of the uplinks. Did they increase the difficulty at the end from relaease bc all of the videos we watch there seems to be like 1/3 of the enemies

[atomic escarp]

make your shots count

they will overwhelm if u dont kill em

[half hornet]

It seems the entire team must basically gear out specifically for that part

Preferably an overwhelming amount of turrets

And something that's very good at killing those goddamn fliers

I believe special revolver kills them in 1 shot

I brought shotgun + machine gun and it turned out to be a worthless setup