gtfo-spoiler-chat

[silent kettle]

ex is v funny though

[hexed vapor]

Like, D1 and DX are in this really sad middle-spot where they're way too fucking much for freshies but also trivial and not that interesting for experienced players.

[mossy marsh]

extended levels seem to at least point towards a good direction in terms of difficulty

[hexed vapor]

Just don't do it.

Stop at C tier, if that, and make D-tier a hardcore tier.

[regal thicket]

adds expeditions where the hardest parts are the final section

[nocturne flax]

You guys realize EA was basically no lore and just them adding a couple of objective and variation on scans while they grew their studio right?

Now we got scripted scenes and audio and other big scenarios like squidward showing up been more cinematic to the GTFO experience

[regal thicket]

checkpoint literally before doing it

ok game

[silent kettle]

[nocturne flax]

So sadly after 2 fucking years recently now we get to play with the cool shit

or see it atleast

[silent kettle]

bro imagine checkpoint after r4d1 reactor

immersion gone

[hexed vapor]

Yes, but this is just bad for the gameplay.

Again, D1 and DX aren't that fun for anyone.

[nocturne flax]

tell me something i dont know

[regal thicket]

I'VE GOT A MESSAGE FOR THE WARDEN

GET THE FUCK OFF ME

[mossy marsh]

GTFO playstation exclusive confirmed??? 😳

[nocturne flax]

succeed or die?

[queen field]

ok tyler1

[regal thicket]

I'M NOT TAKING ORDERS ANYMORE, I'M GIVING THEM

[nocturne flax]

Im a the virus!!!

[hexed vapor]

YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, SCHAEFFER

[nocturne flax]

but mostly im a dickhead

[hexed vapor]

KILLERS, MURDERERS, ALL OF THEM- ALL OF US

[nocturne flax]

weeeeeeeeeeeee weeeeeeeeeee specimen22 noises

[regal thicket]

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[nocturne flax]

that shit just too funny

my team fucking died of laughter

[regal thicket]

i want to take it seriously

but i can't

[nocturne flax]

its just ridiculous

[mossy marsh]

no friend

[silent kettle]

and 90% of players dont give a shit about the lore anyways but now forced to listen to it

[regal thicket]

schaeffer for potus 2064

[nocturne flax]

everybody was bursting out of laughter

[hexed vapor]

Calle's post saying "veterans will understand" I think wildly misrepresents what most veteran players actually care about.

[regal thicket]

my favourite lore moment is

[nocturne flax]

then i played it with my SO and she just said man wtf just happening lmao

[mortal portal]

That Schaeffer audio on CX extraction door was so badly placed imo.

[silent kettle]

also funny parallel

[regal thicket]

you have to afk at the terminal for 5 mins to listen to a monologue

[hexed vapor]

Lore is very niche, and a lot of the lore buffs aren't even that invested in the gameplay all of the time.

[silent kettle]

r2a1, find pmom vials
r6dx, find specimen 22 (dead)

))

[mossy marsh]

(real)

[regal thicket]

imagine if the lore can actually be more interactive and affects gameplay also giving you rewards aka the incentive to pursue it

[mortal portal]

I remember when they said they were gonna adjust the level design to be balanced around stamina, then R6C3 existed.

[regal thicket]

(pdth overdrill)

(pd2 secret)

[hexed vapor]

I like them both a lot, but I think they're getting forcibly mixed for no good reason.

[nocturne flax]

Everybody bitch about the lore on the fucking doors

why do they keep shoving it down our throats

i just dont get it

[mossy marsh]

I'm not really sure if they actually adjusted that
I noticed in CX:extreme your stamina doesn't go crazy when there aren't enemies around

but I could be dum dum

[hexed vapor]

Remove door logs, if any lore is in objectives it should be extremely vague, which is how it always used to be. Schaeffer wasn't screaming at me about the neonate, we were just doing some weird shit and then we stabbed the baby.

[regal thicket]

they should do more of that like cx ex

[nocturne flax]

like motherfucker, if you want me to fucking listen to your shitty audio dont put it in the middle of combar where i cannot hear shit and the homies are talking

[regal thicket]

where mr monologue trolls you with lore scan during an error alarm

[mortal portal]

Even the new players don't seem to care about lore doors when going through A1

[hexed vapor]

FUCK FUCK STUPID FUCK STUPID FUCK

[mossy marsh]

mood

[nocturne flax]

DO YOU REMEMBER ME DO YOU REMEMBER ME

OF COURSE THEY DONT

[hexed vapor]

THEY CAN'T

[silent kettle]

i like it when mission objectives are tied to the lore compared to just hearing lore on the doors

[mortal portal]

Why you do what you do do you know? There is a plan

[silent kettle]

and we actually get inkling about the future

[errant vigil]

R4E1 main audio lore terminal, but it's tied to the Pmother and Tank room instead

[hexed vapor]

A million dogs fetching a million bones, over and over

[mortal portal]

I can safely say I have memorized the entire A1 Schaeffer audio just by going through that door multiple times

[nocturne flax]

Lemme extend this teamscan for another 10 seconds into a 5 scout room right next to sleeping giant and i cannot hear shit because the giant its sleeping right next to me

[regal thicket]

imagine adding subtitles then there's nothing for lore exposition

[nocturne flax]

you think theyre that smart

[regal thicket]

for voice commands

[nocturne flax]

my brother in christ they dont

[silent kettle]

imagine if they unlocked e stage in a similar way to previous rundowns but the last stage before e1 does some foreshadowing on e1
(you have to clear all mains for e1 in this scenario)

[mortal portal]

Sometimes I wonder if they actually consider the things we discuss here most of the time

[silent kettle]

stages connecting to eachother pog

[nocturne flax]

nah, their vision bro

[regal thicket]

the a n t i k i t i n g measure

[errant vigil]

I wanted it

[hexed vapor]

I wanted anti-kiting measures.

[devout river]

nah

[errant vigil]

But it doesn't even stop long kiting the worst one

[hexed vapor]

I didn't want stamina, but it does the job I guess.

[nocturne flax]

say that bots are half bake and suddenly "you want to replace players"

[regal thicket]

circle kiting is the worst one tho

[devout river]

Bro I do want to replace players

[regal thicket]

and it did stop it

[nocturne flax]

stamina does its job

[devout river]

then I can just play whenever I want

[regal thicket]

at the cost of fun

[nocturne flax]

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeet

[nocturne flax]

it aint fun if you solo

[silent kettle]

trade offer
you receive stamina | i receive giant kiting

[nocturne flax]

havent had a problem with stamina since it came out

[errant vigil]

You can still hammer a few enemies that are iso

[regal thicket]

solo is fun

[devout river]

Yeah stamina is fine in my eyes

[errant vigil]

I don't really have a problem with it

[regal thicket]

i don't need to play with french people

[errant vigil]

Ye when you have less than 6 enemies coming at you stamina doesn't stop you

[nocturne flax]

if you force that with stamina you (A )aint having fun and B severe skill issue

kiwi

FUCK THE WARDEN

[hexed vapor]

We need to start THINKING AGAIN

[nocturne flax]

ARE YOU A DOG PERSON

Apparently he wasnt, thats why he kill him in the ext

goddam

[hexed vapor]

Ext balance is mostly good, but CX Sec seems like it's way undertuned.

My inclination was that it was supposed to be a lot harder than it is.

[devout river]

I didn't beat CX second cause I was way too tired but it didn't seem too bad

I was able to get to 1 minute left with bots on my first try

[silent kettle]

ironically the hardest part of CX is when you complete secondary

(the entire stage)

[hexed vapor]

There are just not that many waves, not much to do besides fight waves, and waves can be soloed by HEL Gun.

[devout river]

Yeah I wasn't progressing the whole cell thing and I was able to get to the point where there was 1 minute left

only died cause of shadow giants

[silent kettle]

literally bonk all the error alarms

)

[devout river]

bro idk how to bonk shadow giants

that was my first time fighting them

well outside of the part earlier in the level

[hexed vapor]

If you have bots, just bring shotgun

they're very easy to kill if it's just them

[devout river]

idk during CX the bots would suddenly become incompetent when giant shadows came around

Like they would be shooting the small shadows just fine but then the big shadows would come along and they would just do nothing

[hexed vapor]

Yeah, that's why you bring shotgun

[devout river]

To be fair I didn't have biotracker for the whole thing

[hexed vapor]

It's only 2 at a time for Main and 3 total for Sec

Oh, lmfao

[devout river]

I wasn't expecting shadows

[hexed vapor]

Big oof tbh

[bold widget]

if you see bots focusing smalls you gun down the giant since it's tracked longer

[devout river]

Yeah I was out of ammo so I was just running around in circles hoping the bots would handle it

They did not

[bold widget]

oof

[devout river]

Probably wouldve been fine if I had brought biotracker

I am guessing bots become more accurate against shadows when they are pinged?

[hexed vapor]

I think they just cheat

[devout river]

I mean yeah

they were doing perfectly well against the small shadows

just the big ones they were terrible against for whatever reason

Maybe they were just out of ammo idk

[nocturne flax]

Bots can shoot shadows without bioping

They just gotta be like 5 m infront of them

[devout river]

I guess they were just out of ammo then

[nocturne flax]

You talking they actually talk about their game in here

[hexed vapor]

Some stuff about setting c-foam on fire, but p sure that's it.

long ass time ago

[bold widget]

the secret of how we will finally get rid of spitters

[errant vigil]

Just go to R1 : )

[hexed vapor]

Back to the roots

[mossy marsh]

flamethrowers
use the mg with damage booster

[regal thicket]

we're not ultra expert monster killing team

lock melters were dripfed

r1 hack locks

r2 lock melts

🤯

[mossy marsh]

[bold widget]

i was litteraly about to post that emote

[errant vigil]

C1 40 min resource gathering

[devout river]

bro I dont remember shit from R1 I just got carried through A1 and B1 that's it

[errant vigil]

Orange hack scan was gross too

[hexed vapor]

I played too much R1 tbh

[bold widget]

the days people were actually afraid of scouts

miss those days

[hexed vapor]

Apparently I participated in roughly 0.3% of all level clears.

in R1

[errant vigil]

Now you're an old man

[mossy marsh]

just hack it faster 4head

[hexed vapor]

The good old days are passed

[devout river]

R1 was the hardest rundown tbh

[hexed vapor]

Oh bb

[devout river]

couldnt get past b2 there I can get past b2 everywhere else

[hexed vapor]

I hope you mean relative to player skill

[devout river]

yeah

[mossy marsh]

I miss the days were I would join a lobby were a guy named iTzztimmy would kite the first room of R5A1

fuck wrong reply

[hexed vapor]

Undeserved

Go back to pre-nerf

[errant vigil]

remember when they did that to R5

[hexed vapor]

Okay, but R5 was actually deserved

That shit was so boring

[mossy marsh]

were any R6 levels or things nerfed

[hexed vapor]

Half the fucking map is a respawn room every other level

[devout river]

I didnt play R5 much

[errant vigil]

D2 flyer alarm

To 3 flyers per wave

[hexed vapor]

Yes, but got rebuffed

[errant vigil]

At least they mad it a tad harder by increasing the codes

[hexed vapor]

It's def harder than it was at launch

No idea why scout waves are only 8 enemies.

It's fucking D tier

cmon

[regal thicket]

cuz funny chargers are counted as 1.5 enemies

[devout river]

nah im dogshit so I need it to be free

[hexed vapor]

Pretty sure that's not true, but I can check I guess.

[regal thicket]

and not changing scout wave spawn amount

[hexed vapor]

I think the only values are 0.75, 1, and 2

[errant vigil]

Scouts still not spawning the variant they're tied too

[regal thicket]

do check, so at least i know I'm wrong

[hexed vapor]

            "ScoutWaveSettings": 131,
            "ScoutWavePopulation": 5,

Settings:

    {
      "m_pauseBeforeStart": 1.0,
      "m_pauseBetweenGroups": 3.0,
      "m_wavePauseMin_atCost": 1.0,
      "m_wavePauseMax_atCost": 10.0,
      "m_wavePauseMin": 1.0,
      "m_wavePauseMax": 20.0,
      "m_populationFilter": [
        1
      ],
      "m_filterType": 0,
      "m_chanceToRandomizeSpawnDirectionPerWave": 1.0,
      "m_chanceToRandomizeSpawnDirectionPerGroup": 0.1,
      "m_overrideWaveSpawnType": false,
      "m_survivalWaveSpawnType": 0,
      "m_populationPointsTotal": 7.0,
      "m_populationPointsPerWaveStart": 7.0,
      "m_populationPointsPerWaveEnd": 7.0,
      "m_populationPointsMinPerGroup": 7.0,
      "m_populationPointsPerGroupStart": 7.0,
      "m_populationPointsPerGroupEnd": 7.0,
      "m_populationRampOverTime": 120.0,
      "name": "Scout Halved and Reduced S",
      "internalEnabled": true,
      "persistentID": 131
    },

Population (30 is charger):

    {
      "WaveRoleWeakling": 30,
      "WaveRoleStandard": 30,
      "WaveRoleSpecial": 30,
      "WaveRoleMiniBoss": 39,
      "WaveRoleBoss": 39,
      "name": "Bullrush",
      "internalEnabled": true,
      "persistentID": 5
    },

It's a global setting per level.

So, it depends.

[regal thicket]

also why does d3 scouts spawn both regulars and shadows

[errant vigil]

Immersion

[hexed vapor]

It can spawn both weaklings and standard, and that's shadows and strikers respectively.

I think weakling is also still buggy af and sometimes you literally only get weakling

Used to happen in R4D2 for striker+charger waves, and seems to happen in R6D3 with getting only shadows.

[devout river]

which one is D3 again

I played all the D tiers like once

[hexed vapor]

Reactor, tank barracks, shadows

[devout river]

Oh that one

Is that the one where you have to sneak through a bunch of dogshit to find a terminal

after doing a reactor

[errant vigil]

Overload ye

[devout river]

Oh yeah

I tried that once

My team forced me to sneak through all the shit with no experience

I actually made it to the terminal first try suprisingly

Then we died on an alarm immediately after

[hallow lark]

DX IS NOW DONE!

[hexed vapor]

Nicu~

[prisma zodiac]

burst sentry and scattergun (for things)

D2 secondary (nerfed then double buffed)
C2 secondary (4 -> 3 hybrids per wave)
D3 fog density
B2 class 5 -> class 4 alarm for main bulkhead door

[devout river]

Man DX

Despair

[hallow lark]

And guess what...

I completed it soundless as well

[balmy shoal]

I FINALLY COMPLETED B1 WITH ONLY BOTS.

[devout river]

Man I can't remember R4C2

[balmy shoal]

Goodness that took a while.

[devout river]

Can Remember R4C1 and C3 just fine

[balmy shoal]

Or sorry, B2

[devout river]

All levels take ages with bots

[errant vigil]

Kite the level

[regal thicket]

glp, id and datasphere

[balmy shoal]

Next up is C1.

[regal thicket]

bad smelly level

[balmy shoal]

Gonna see if I can’t solo the entire rundown.

[hexed vapor]

R4C2 solo was kinda fun

But so much kiting, so much hammering

[devout river]

Good luck pal

[hexed vapor]

At least extraction is piss easy

[hallow lark]

GL with the solo stuff my friend

[devout river]

C3 onwards is pretty fucking rough with bots

except for CX its not too bad

[balmy shoal]

Listen, the bots may not be good for much, but at least they have silencers on their guns.

[errant vigil]

Is it really solo if you have bots

[devout river]

Technically

[balmy shoal]

Please. I’m already making this so hard.

[hexed vapor]

Tbh, I kind of want to play solo + Dauda

sounds fun

[errant vigil]

I'm not telling you to do it pure solo

[balmy shoal]

DAUDA. MY SAVIOR ON THE B2 RUN.

[errant vigil]

But bots do help quite a bit

[balmy shoal]

Love the guy.

[prisma zodiac]

tbh some levels/things might be easier without bots

[hexed vapor]

Can fill the void in my heart Big Birbus left behind.

[balmy shoal]

Oh yes no all fair darkest dungeon man, it was all in jest.

[devout river]

kinda true

[balmy shoal]

They are, you say? You wouldn’t happen to like… know which ones?

[devout river]

Bots are just really bad at some things

error alarms

[prisma zodiac]

Fun thing. Bots can solo all levels up to c1 (havent tested further) without the player dmging anything themselves

Start scan, open lockers and pull rooms by sprinting and let them do their thing. They clear b2

[errant vigil]

They get stuck on some shit too

[balmy shoal]

Yeah, that error alarm on C1 has me stuck currently. It’s why I switched to doing B2

[prisma zodiac]

most likely needs some rly high skill cap to pull off either way. But things like d3pe

[devout river]

I was going for all bots but I gave up

I did not have the patience to do C3 with em

[errant vigil]

Knowing where terminal is for that error can help find the key fast

[devout river]

and I can't imagine the later stuff

[prisma zodiac]

If you do it with bots. Just place 2-3 of your sentries facing a door behind (in room b) and chill on terminal to ping key

[errant vigil]

It's in a weird out of the way subzone tho

Kinda mean

[balmy shoal]

I’m trying to get my friends to get into GTFO so I can end this crusade, but it is… slow going. I may have one actual person joining me soon!

[regal thicket]

just get lucky and reroll when you get room d key

[devout river]

yeah

friends

[prisma zodiac]

playing with friends = game is unlimitied times better

[devout river]

true

I unfortunately have none

[balmy shoal]

I know! It really is. I will certainly miss screaming “why can’t you just wait on this one side of the door and why are you now running to the opposite side of the map what are you doing” when a bot gets stuck.

[prisma zodiac]

just watch twitch streams and get some friends or smth

[prisma zodiac]

Dw it will happen with friends too

they just cant phase through the door

[devout river]

eh I've sorta given up

bots make it too easy to just ignore the lack of friends

[prisma zodiac]

still more fun to play with peep s

[devout river]

Yeah I guess

[prisma zodiac]

i actually enjoy doing solo more than bots. Tho obviously duo/4man >>>> solo

[mortal portal]

• Tries to do a double kill on a pair of enemies
• Kills the first, second aggros as usual
• Bots shoot the second, staggering it away
• Other enemies wake up cuz I had to walk up to the staggered enemy
• Chain reaction, whole room wakes up

[mossy marsh]

just let the bots kill it

[mortal portal]

Too greedy

The hammer hungers

[mossy marsh]

I just remembered a clip of someone were the bot just sprinted 10 miles and killed a whole bunch of enemies with a single melee swing lol

[mortal portal]

I've had a bot kill a big guy once with only 3 Machinegun shots

[mossy marsh]

cheater bots smh

should kick them

[silent kettle]

had a bot use hel gun mag in 2 seconds

how

[mossy marsh]

brrrrrrrrrrr

[hexed vapor]

That's the actual maximum RoF p sure

Literally using a macro

[mossy marsh]

cheating bots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡

[mortal portal]

They even burst cancel the carbine and burst rifle too

[mossy marsh]

epic

[hexed vapor]

Burst cannon on bots monkaS

[silent kettle]

frolic moment

[mossy marsh]

froglick

[mortal portal]

You mean my sleep meds?

[kind swan]

lol using Hel gun max rof

[devout river]

How close to the end of DX is the actual uplink

I was doing DX with bots earlier and got to the uplink but I had to quit

[silent kettle]

ur like

80% done

[devout river]

Damn

Well I’m probably not redoing it anytime soon

It was a terrible experience

Sucks that I was so close though

[hexed vapor]

Should be pretty straightforward w/ bots tbh

[devout river]

It was terrible

Everything just takes so damn long with bots

My run was like 3 hours long before I had to quit

Maybe even closer to 4 I don’t really know

[hexed vapor]

What takes so much time?

Most of the level is solo clearable.

[silent kettle]

well all of r6 solo status again

[devout river]

Idk things just take forever with bots

Stealth takes longer because I’m the only one who can actually be killing things

[hexed vapor]

Gotto get those clearing strats

[devout river]

Though to be fair I’m on the slower side when it comes to stealth

[silent kettle]

time to use lfg

[devout river]

I rarely use lfg

[mossy marsh]

do

[silent kettle]

do

[devout river]

I’m too dogshit

Im not really good enough to hold my own on the later levels so I usually just carried or do nothing/negatively effect the team

[silent kettle]

try solo b1 then

[devout river]

I can’t solo anything

I soloed R3A2, only one ever

Wouldn’t even be able to solo A1

Can’t do alarm doors solo

[silent kettle]

even if you dont win stage

doing 1 alarm solo

can help you hold your own

if you consistently do it that is

eventually you hold your own in all kinds of alarms

[devout river]

What strategies do people even use for solo alarms anymore

Not like you can kite the whole thing anymore with stamina here

[nocturne flax]

for A1 you can do a lot of things

like

every single tool

kekw

[nocturne flax]

you can use mine deployer for all the alarms, or use a burst sentry to funnel

sniper sentry too as long ad you place it smartly

many things, but at end of the day you will have to shoot

and hold your ground

[devout river]

I’m terrible at setting up for alarms smartly

[nocturne flax]

then learn

they spawn 2 rooms away, what route are they gonna take

[devout river]

I always incorrectly predict where enemies come from

I know the 2 room thing

Idk how I haven’t learned at this point when I have 350 hours

[nocturne flax]

it happens, but you gotta fail to learn, most people replay the same levels multiple times and learn where everything comes from

like i know how to set up for multiple rooms

but theres still something cool to learn

[high prism]

my team screwed up and didn't open one of the logs at the very end of BX, we listened to the one where he got into the hydrostasis, but not the other one, can someone tell us what it was

[silent kettle]

use weapons well)

find stuff with good synergy to brute force

[mossy marsh]

what?

[next rapids]

lol

[mossy marsh]

odd

are you playing on a potato or what?

[next rapids]

probably ^

[kind swan]

potato gaming

[mossy marsh]

poltato pc

[kind swan]

something I see people don't use well

[chilly ivy]

About that 😆

[vital wharf]

how are the new expeditions like? Haven't played since the end of last year

[mossy marsh]

depends

for a bad player? hard
for a good player? easy

[vital wharf]

yeah saw mention of it being easy

already beat the rundown was just wondering if it's worth returning before the next one

[nocturne flax]

Its entretaining the first two playtroughts

but thats about it

lore getting shoved down your throat

[vital wharf]

ah

[obtuse cedar]

aka unique. but replayability somewhat low

[nocturne flax]

eeehhh

[vital wharf]

kind of like playing B1 and C1

exciting the first time

meh after

[nocturne flax]

i wouldnt say unique tbh

[mossy marsh]

I remember C1 taking me quite some hours the first time

after finishing it, it became kek easy and boring

[vital wharf]

yeah

harder with bots

beat it the first time with bots lmao, they were awful during the 2nd holdout

[royal lichen]

this the rundown the burst sentry kinda trivializes

[hot flame]

I'm pretty certain there is a DX bug that causes double spawns

[hallow lark]

The double spawn for the stairs?

[hot flame]

double all waves for scans, assuming its checkpoint but cannot guarantee

was getting absurd number of enemies, looked other peoples (post hotfix) runs. It was wildly different

[hallow lark]

I don’t think I have seen that before

[hot flame]

we were hitting perma spawn cap

also had the checkpoint text stuck on screen, but probably unrelated (for all four players)

[royal lichen]

got the logfile for the match?

[hot flame]

downloading log manager

[royal lichen]

last i heard of cp wave bugs was c2ext double hybes, january patch fixed.. and introduced my fave, glass doors :)

[hot flame]

what are glass doors?

oh invis door bug

[cloud creek]

in c1 with the scout room, is it possible to use cfoam grenades to freeze/kill them without alerting?

[hallow lark]

Oh? I thought you went to sleep Hiru

I guess our DX completion kept you up still?

[reef talon]

Yes. C-foam will not alert scouts, but it is just kind of wasteful to use unless it is a charger scout.

Getting confident at melee stealth bonking regular scouts is kind of important.

[hallow lark]

Oh yea

Especially when your doing some levels with high concentrations of scouts

Like DX

[sage bone]

same. especially DX the lag is unbearable. I get 100-140 fps in the complex but when I'm in the other dimension wenk wonk 20-30fps

[supple ocean]

what are the hardest parts of DX, want to know before attempting

[kind surge]

staircase of death

triple uplink connect terminals WITH infinitely spawning waves of strikers WITH infinitely spawning waves of fliers WITH a heavy flier every minute or so.

all while climbing a massive tower.

[supple ocean]

💀

literally

[kind surge]

oh sorry forgot the bold

the STAIRCASE OF DEATH

[kind surge]

there are no gaps between terminals. it's just gogogo.

[supple ocean]

is there at least a checkpoint

[hallow lark]

Lol!

Try doing DX soundless

It is stupid ridiculous

But I had tons of fun

[kind surge]

yes. before another uplink connect terminal 😉

total of 4

1 just after checkpoint, and 3 in the staircase of death

[supple ocean]

thank god, still sounds terrifying lol

[kind surge]

took me and my group about 3 hours on day 1 when the extension dropped

[supple ocean]

but i need that mask soo

[kind surge]

just thank god they reduced flier damage by 50%

[supple ocean]

meatball moment

[kind surge]

because it was bugged

doing something like 20% per shot i've heard from others

[hallow lark]

I think it is also the order of the terminal being done that determines how you succeed at the death staircase

[kind surge]

me and my team did 123, but i've heard others had some success with 132

[hallow lark]

We did Top-Center-Bottom

[kind surge]

321

[hallow lark]

But really the challenge is the fucking center

[kind surge]

it's really tight and narrow, very little length to the corridors

[hallow lark]

A literal Tri-Pincer attack with flyers to deal with

[kind surge]

and plenty of holes for the shooters to fire at you from

[hallow lark]

I’m still gobsmacked about our run tho

In one sec, two mates went down, and in next 3, all are up again and I finished putting more codes in

And once that’s done, we tried getting the hell outta there but I got blasted and went down, but for some reason, the Shocker was focused on a different mate than the one reviving me

[regal thicket]

just trivialise it by going top mid bottom

by the time you finish top, charger flyers spawn which has a significantly low chance of hitting you at mid terminal

then you push bottom which sleepers take 5 years to climb down, so sentries can just kill all the flyers

sure, there is fog but it's r6 fog, which they severely lowered the density compared to pre r6

it took me and my squad almost 40 mins for the whole expedition then 30 mins cuz we wanna go fast

then i just finish it with bots in 2 tries

it's really not that bad when you possess the concept of wave clear in your head plus sentries

there's literally around 20 uses of ammo, meds and tool.
you go fast and shoot shoot shoot

[wary olive]

are the resource spawns in that area fixed?

[regal thicket]

no

but the locker spawns are usually in those positions

[cloud creek]

Question. In D1, what tf is that enemy that spawns after you turn on the reactor/generator?

[silent kettle]

tank

mini boss

also referred to as dad

[cloud creek]

Oh okay, the wiki has a strange picture of him

[kind swan]

Wiki images are more so the creatures in a dormant sleeping state

[cloud creek]

Ah okay, thank you!

[half mortar]

BX is a wild time

[devout flicker]

lmao we had spawn capped shadows behind us and everyone at 0% ammo with only 1 bot shooting, i have never cursed an audio log so much in my life

[half mortar]

any decent strat for the second generator?

[devout flicker]

@hexed vapor you told me about the charger scout vs iix recently? Is it possible that damage round off can be different for host and client?

like the burst rifle has

[turbid cliff]

why would the damage rounding be different

why do you think it's different for burst rifle

[kind surge]

because in multiplayer the burst rifle just does more damage flat?

[obtuse cedar]

There is no single player mode

So even solo play is your "multiplayer"

So again why would it do more dmg

Seems more to me that teammate are weakening without you realising it and you just get the kills

[kind surge]

no, it's been proven. something with the net code. you can 1-burst strikers and shooters with the burst rifle while not host

afik it's a problem with how damage is calculated client side

you can see this by just joining some else hosting, and clearing zones while they afk.

it's measurable

this is the case with the overwhelming majority of weapons.

[royal lichen]

kinda noticed the same when theres latency.. like bonking a sleeper will produce 2 sounds.. or shooting someone will first register my hit but then host tells me that enemy has been hit (again) ...

[turbid cliff]

feels like another stupid rumor is spreading further than it should again

i'd like to see a video so i can see what exactly you're talking about

[kind surge]

it's not. grab a friend and go test it in c1

load in solo and count shots with pistol to kill a sleeper

[turbid cliff]

i'm positive i wouldn't find what you're talking about

[kind surge]

then load in as a client to a friend's game, and count the shots

[kind surge]

it's not complicated

[turbid cliff]

you talk like i haven't played the damn game

i would've noticed something like that

[kind surge]

well if you don't believe me go look for yourself

can't really get any more straightforward than that

[turbid cliff]

and as i already said i can already tell i wouldn't find anything out of the ordinary

but i can't dismiss it as non-existent because i don't see it, so i need someone who "sees" it to show me

[kind surge]

okay, give me a moment

can you boot up the game and hop into a vc real quick?

[turbid cliff]

kind of in the middle of other shit but if you just need an afk host i can do that

you can just foam whatever you want to see and shoot it

[kind surge]

yeah vc31

[turbid cliff]

asking for randoms to join

[turbid cliff]

yes so it's not a damage calculation or "round off" issue as was initially mentioned

this is just the limb destruction bs at play again same as scattergun on tanks/birthers

high fire rate lets you get more hits in than you should before the limb is destroyed and so you get more damage

[shell hamlet]

are the heavy fliers vulnerable from behind? just finished bx and i knwo you can shoot it while it's charging but they were always facing me so i want to know

[subtle vault]

They have a weak spot back there

[shell hamlet]

thanks

[wary olive]

I remember reading someone say that as client, all 3 bullets from the burst will do head damage whereas when you're host only 2 do head damage before the head breaks

NVM you already know

[kind surge]

this is true.

this also 1-bursts the target.

[bold widget]

10 chambers where egg event :c

collect eggs to get a mask with bunny ears

[next rapids]

yes please

[bold widget]

certified uwu moment

[next rapids]

uwu

[worldly cargo]

it's just the easiest lol

[kind swan]

One of the easiest. Lol

It is the easiest

[regal thicket]

it is the easiest

[silent kettle]

it is the hardest

[hexed vapor]

Unsure, but I was getting issues as host in R4.

[surreal linden]

on god, i cant find zone 183 in CX

[thick burrow]

maybe you're just too good

[obtuse surge]

not trying to get political but who the fuck is specimen 22

[surreal linden]

someone please tell me where zone 183 is in CX ive been here for hours

[errant vigil]

Schaeffer propaganda

[royal lichen]

go to a terminal, list sec .. start querying all the secdoors until u find a door that leads there. it also tells where that door is.

or check if someone updated the steamcom maps already

[wary olive]

WEEEEEEEEEH!

that part in the dialogue is so ridiculous

sounds like a manbaby

[rotund ivy]

A question that even we in the lore community are trying to figure out.

Some of us think it's a neonate, others think it's a variation of sleeper, and a few other variables.

[nocturne flax]

Congrats you learned something from like rundown 2!

Im pulling your leg

dont cry about it

[kind surge]

Would you like me to send you a screenshot of me using burst in r2?

It's fantastic. Under certain circumstances

If anything I miss the old machinepistol

And the arbalist as it was in r1

[kind swan]

Me when playing with some old players who've been away for a year or so

And then they dont believe me that Machine pistol is a dmg variant of Auto pistol without the stagger tungsten rounds

They thought whenever I said AutoPistol.

They thought I meant the Shelling.

[kind surge]

The machinepistol was first.

Therefore, the autopistol is a stagger variant of the machinepistol

[regal thicket]

because a screenshot is a great indication of its usage

[turbid cliff]

Idk if this is a joke with layers but I don't think it is so
Br couldn't do that in R2

It got a damage buff later

[kind surge]

Excuse you? You can't tell me what guns I enjoy

[errant vigil]

He’s saying a screenshot doesn’t actually show you one bursting it

[kind surge]

It does, it's a problem with the net code. If client it can 1 burst

[kind surge]

One bursting? We talked about this early this morning

[regal thicket]

this

[nocturne flax]

one bursting no, but a single burst hitting all the bullets to the head before destroying because of desync yes

[kind surge]

When did I say burst could 1-burst in r2???

[errant vigil]

Yea assault destroys head in 2 hits post screenshot of head exploded

[kind surge]

When did I say that??

[silent kettle]

r2 ass

[kind surge]

What's your problem?

[turbid cliff]

You misread something

[turbid cliff]

Well it didn't matter with the head bug back then

[nocturne flax]

well......yeah

i kinda miss that

kekw

smg felt quite good

[turbid cliff]

I don't but I also don't like the limb destruction and head multipliers as they are rn

[kind surge]

I miss side-dodging

[kind swan]

Where is muh Maul

[turbid cliff]

Wait for dlc

[regal thicket]

waiting for dlc skins for existing hammering heads

[kind surge]

Thank you.

All rise, my beautiful maulmen

[nocturne flax]

classic hammer heads skin dlc!!!!!!

[kind surge]

[kind swan]

I'd rather use Gavel over Sledge

[nocturne flax]

want to relieve the EARLY ACCESS MOMENTS

[silent kettle]

when do i get butterfly knife skin in gtfo

[kind swan]

If I couldn't use maul

[nocturne flax]

BUY THE HAMMER HEADS FOR 5.99

[turbid cliff]

Each

[kind surge]

Darth Maul pog

God that image was funny

[nocturne flax]

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[kind surge]

#gtfo-media message

[regal thicket]

i'm more of a hammerhead less kinda person

[silent kettle]

the stick

[regal thicket]

hell yea

[silent kettle]

with 1.5 crit multi

[bold widget]

[kind surge]

Is also pretty good

[kind swan]

Knife is alright to me.

I just despise my giant killing ability with it

Otherwise I like it.

[kind surge]

Honestly I've gotten pretty good at scout cleaning with it

Just always jump

Or it feels like you never actually get the kill

[kind swan]

Easier than Bat at least

[kind surge]

For whatever reason

[kind swan]

A stab versus a bat swing

[kind surge]

Bat is good, but it lacks both the giant solo potential and the add clear of the knife

It's a jack

It's a very good jack, but it's still a jack

[kind swan]

Bat can giant solo actually

It still shatters limbs iirc

[kind surge]

Yeah but it takes longer tho

Hard to do mid-attack if your team fucks up a room or you pull a blood door and you melee the Last two hybrids

[nocturne flax]

spam m1

solo's giant

kekw

bat its such a meme i love it

[kind surge]

Speed is the bats biggest downside when it comes to giant fighting

If there are other giants around its not worth it

It'd take too long

1 on 1 vs the hammer against the sledge the bat is better, but rarely you get that perfect of a scenario

[regal thicket]

1 on 1 vs the hammer against the sledge the bat is better

wat

[nocturne flax]

Im tripping

[kind surge]

You don't gotta pace your steps to avoid getting swatted

It's like fighting chickens

With any standard melee

I always find myself fucking up melee with giants, but that's just me

[kind swan]

Speed is slow on the bat

Wut

Unless you're meaning TTK

(Or the Bats Damage)

[kind surge]

That's what I said, ttk

If your fighting multiple giants

Or hybrids

[nocturne flax]

i mean if you have multiple giants active on you

then ttk doesnt really matter

you have a bigger problem

wich its surviving set giants kekw

and if you dont have a sniper then kekw

[kind surge]

Machinegun takes something like 40 rounds to kill a giant

It's like 6 straight seconds of full auto

[kind swan]

the one guy who shoots the giant even though I said I was going to double pump the giant

[silent kettle]

[kind swan]

Still said when people dont believe me that pump/choke can double shot Giant strikers

(In the back)

[silent kettle]

math

[kind swan]

This one girl: Nope. It still takes 4 shots to the back

[hexed vapor]

You need back damage, and also more limbs than usual.

[kind swan]

Her not knowing you can get hit markers after death

Glow sticks**

[silent kettle]

cfoam nade warping through sleeping mother

[wary olive]

you can perma stagger a giant with no charge hits with bat right?

[hexed vapor]

I haven't seen any vids of bat perma-stagger tbh

Which makes me think it's a lot harder to do than bat stands let on, or they're using strategies that are not bat specific.

[kind swan]

@mossy yoke has the D2 bug been fixed yet or is it coming in a future patch?

[kind swan]

nvm I see it has not been fixed yet and will be coming in possible future patch or just wait until R7

[silent kettle]

hope you beat d2 already

smile

[wary olive]

i think people said D2 is easier now

its only a handful of flyers

[silent kettle]

lul

though its probably boring as fuck

[kind swan]

Ye

It's much easier

Just funny because my group didnt believe me at all when I told them it would be flyers only during the uplink

[silent kettle]

d2 turning into b tier wtfeet

[next rapids]

pubs moment?

[worldly cargo]

i wouldnt either if i havent been caught up

making a d tier even easier

rip

[silent kettle]

agony momentum

i really liked r4d1

ex made things pretty cool

and wasnt dragged out level like r5d1

[hard horizon]

the dx is isanely hard at the end uplink

like wtf we cant even win

[errant vigil]

Yea it's very different compared to the rest of the game's level design

There're many places they can come from and flyers add another dimension to it

[hard horizon]

We had hoarde until next the flyer stacked up so much

[errant vigil]

Usually you can just permafoam and keep them coming from one way on usual alarms

[hard horizon]

were just lack of cfoam mostly

but I only brin supply efficiency 47% , 89% revive, 45% medi. to help my team

[errant vigil]

boosters

[obtuse cedar]

try doing it the most stupid way for fun. aka bottom, top, mid 🙂

[hard horizon]

nah we were being serious but we lost to a ladder striker keeps going up and down

[errant vigil]

Double ladder path is not the call. Single BIEG ladder is the way

[obtuse cedar]

unless you are doing top first

[errant vigil]

Drue

[hard horizon]

so top then bottom?

[errant vigil]

Top to bottom is probably the easiest

[obtuse cedar]

the way it is intended is bottom to top

but top to bottom is probably the easier for pubs... though mid, top, bottom might actually be easier

by the fact that mid has very little room to maneuver

[hard horizon]

as little room... theres 2 way incoming hordes?

[obtuse cedar]

3

[errant vigil]

Yea getting there before any terminal sequences ain't that bad I assume

[obtuse cedar]

mid has 3 way to defend

[errant vigil]

^

[obtuse cedar]

2 coming from top floor, 1 coming from same floor (being that corridor)

[hard horizon]

you got to be kid... thats like hek ton of cfoam needed

[obtuse cedar]

or you know... pew pew with the help of sentries on other sides

you definitely have enough ammo in the desert part alone for all uplinks

[hard horizon]

nah that wont help if they come down stair fast

[obtuse cedar]

same goes for tool

[errant vigil]

Sentries are definitely the play for the level imo

[obtuse cedar]

they are

but you could always combine the 2

you could always put some c-foam in front of a burst sentry

[errant vigil]

R7 COPIUM

[obtuse cedar]

i can tell you this though. bottom terminal only need 1 burst sentry for the defense

the rest of the team can just go camp that ladder

[hard horizon]

we did that. it was worst after uplink on bottom

[obtuse cedar]

then maybe you should try the pub way to make it easier on yourself

rush top terminal first and do them top to bottom

the bottom terminal doesn't require that much resources to defend so it doesn't matter if half the team has nothing left

[errant vigil]

Also big flyers get stuck on the way down sometimes

[obtuse cedar]

most of the time

[regal thicket]

dx is only hard if the concept of pushing, holding and shooting are too foreign for you

there's 20 uses of ammo and tool in 3 terminal dimension

6 or 8 uses of ammo and tool after second class 5

[silent kettle]

ur foreign

[regal thicket]

game too hard

[fallen cradle]

cx, do i need to open all 3 blood doors?

[regal thicket]

time to solo dx so I can tell the toxic tw player i actually true soloed dx

god i hate Taiwanese people

[silent kettle]

yes

if you mean the blood doors

[silent kettle]

[regal thicket]

you don't need to if you got bugged terminals

[fallen cradle]

after that, what terminal do i need to access? or do i just need to clear it?

[regal thicket]

where the password is emergency_power_supply_on

[silent kettle]

need to get password from each terminal

[regal thicket]

logs

[silent kettle]

^

[regal thicket]

read key0X_XXX.log

[fallen cradle]

it wasn't asking for a password so i wasn't looking for one

[silent kettle]

theres 2 terminals in the main room

1 is in bunker bedroom

1 is in middle

B)

[fallen cradle]

so i need to enter the second password into the second terminal?

[regal thicket]

code from class 4 cluster + 2 scout zone + shadow giant error is for the terminal on the middle of the room

code from 3 blood door + shadow error is for the terminal inside the bunker

but if the password doesn't work

type eme tab and hit enter

[fallen cradle]

so i need to enter the second password into the second terminal?

[next rapids]

if u can guess the code then no lol

[fallen cradle]

yeah i saw that, is funni but takes time

[hallow lark]

You know… I realized some crazy irony of this game

When I first started, it was the Hearing leading the Deaf… now, it’s the Deaf leading the Hearing XD

[real moss]

https://tenor.com/view/knowledge-smart-intelligent-brain-papa-gif-11282893

[hallow lark]

Lol

[bold widget]

does someone have schaeffers onlyfans?

[tall igloo]

Can i see big flyer

[next rapids]

👀

[last gust]

Can anyone check my arithmetic on charger scout meleeing? 1.53 (53% melee buff booster) * 2 (back hit) * 20 (hammer full charge) = 61.2 > 60

[digital dawn]

Should be correct I think, although I never messed around with melee dmg boosters myself

[kind swan]

You just need 50%

20 x 1.50 = 30 x 2 flanking bonus = 60

[last gust]

Asking because today I used such a booster, landed the back hit with a full charge, and it didn't die

Happened twice, too

[kind swan]

You probably werent directly behind it

[last gust]

Maybe I just didn't land the back hit properly, just trying to check other possibilities

[kind swan]

It needs you to be a specific angle behind it otherwise you dont get flanking bonus

[last gust]

I'm pretty sure I was directly behind it while it was deployed on both occasions, but there could've been some jank to it, I'll grant

[kind swan]

also because back damage. You can hit anywhere and you'll get 2x bonus

Outside of chargers you can go for occiput for bigger dmg bonus

[last gust]

lol I know how back/head/occi multipliers usually work

[kind swan]

Either desync /latency issues

[last gust]

I was host

[kind swan]

Or werent in right angle

Solo?

[last gust]

Nah not solo

I'll grant there could still be some netcode nonsense going on for all I know

[kind swan]

Host can still have issues with desync and latency btw

[regal thicket]

lol

[kind swan]

Me playing with several Hosts and they say theres desync and lag. (Us other 3 that arent experiencing any of that)

[obtuse cedar]

did you use a checkpoint prior to that?

[kind swan]

It's typically not the case most of the time though

[obtuse cedar]

cause checkpoint will desync the host too after a usage

[last gust]

Nope

ty for the brainstorming session btw everyone

If I don't figure out why it lived both times, that's the way it goes

[royal lichen]

maybe the cscout has some janky 0.9x multiplier for melee hits, to not be able to booster-solo w/o iix.. dunno.

[errant vigil]

Back has scaling multi if you didn't know

[kind swan]

[last gust]

What does this mean?

[errant vigil]

Dependent on player position, your multi changes

[last gust]

Oh, so if you had exactly +50% melee, you'd need a very precise position to 1hit?

[regal thicket]

yes

[last gust]

Hm, that could be it

53% isn't much higher than 50% after all

[regal thicket]

you should strike it when the charger scout is retracting its feelers

[dreamy bramble]

also height counts for back damage for whatever reason

[regal thicket]

that's when it's completely up straight

[dreamy bramble]

dont think its relevant for hammers but could be it

[atomic escarp]

Imagine D4 clean up with 50% melee damage

[kind swan]

casually double chokes the charger scouts face

[atomic escarp]

Should i solo BBC

solo melee i mean

Because it's seem to be fun

[regal thicket]

or be a chad and just melee charger scouts together

that's way more fun

plus 40x2, no rounding error

[atomic escarp]

No

[errant vigil]

did that with a buddy deep into R5D1 secondary

[kind swan]

I prefer "Help I tried sniping the charger scouts back but I hit bishop instead"

[regal thicket]

charger scouts are way more consistent now so it's pretty chill to do it now

[atomic escarp]

Vision blurred because of uveitis

But i still able to done d3

[obtuse cedar]

meanwhile chad bat user staggering the charger scout so that the hammer person can finish him before it gets triggered

[mossy yoke]

I can tell you that with a 53% Melee Damage booster, you could have killed the charger scout if the conditions were perfect.

[last gust]

👍 ty for the info

[kind swan]

Doc

When bucket

Also any clue when D2 fix?

That secondary is pitifully easy now

[errant vigil]

never just like R5D1 BC key alarm

[hexed vapor]

What was your angle?

Back damage is not a hitbox.

[last gust]

I don't know the exact angle

I can accept that if back damage scales as others said above, it probably wasn't a perfect back angle

[hexed vapor]

Prolly, 22.5 degree cone, pretty tight

[kind swan]

[half hornet]

What was that about d2 secondary being easy

[royal lichen]

should be chargers, is flyers

(uplink)

tankyboy as he were etc

[half hornet]

The large cool portal explosion in the sky implies that it's intentional

So nothing to fix and my dead teammates don't seem to complain

[royal lichen]

doc tested and commented "neat." .. someone even analyzed the change, something about a filter affecting unintended..

[kind swan]

It wasnt intentional lol

[half hornet]

Really?

[kind swan]

Doc didnt believe me when I first stated this to them

[royal lichen]

the first password scan thingy is intentionally room fulla flyers ofc but there the under-stairs cheese trivializes.. uplinks a diff beast ofc

[mossy yoke]

Not that I didn't believe you. Trust, but verify

[errant vigil]

This has happen times before

R4 surges, R5D1 alarm

It don't get fixed and is not commented about

[mossy marsh]

It don't get fixed and is not commented about
sounds normal to me

[errant vigil]

yes

[kind swan]

😏

[burnt goblet]

So June 11 is when rundown 7.0 Is releasing eh? Or is that a placeholder

[digital dawn]

Placeholder

[kind swan]

Steam requires a date

So they just placed one but it's still not set in stone

[hard horizon]

My 600 hours of gaming GTFO

Now im currently playing a mod person. Oh lorddddyyy

[nocturne flax]

damn my man dont liek readding the rules

[hard horizon]

I didn't know that exist

I thought GTFO was refrain from using modders

[silent kettle]

yeah devs dont support modding discussions etc

[kind swan]

if you want to talk or play with others using mods. They would direct you to the GTFO modding server

[balmy shoal]

Howdy. Any good way to deal with.. uh, dunno how to describe it. The big guy in mission D1 that has three heads and those cysts on the back that pop? I'm a solo player with all bots and there ain't exactly a "distract that guy so I can get behind him" keybind on the chat wheel.

[burnt goblet]

Yeah, bots don't mix well with tanks. If you have a sniper sentry you can place it at the end of the hallway so it hits it's back. You can hit the pustules from the front with a sniper. Other than that, it's a lot harder to deal with tanks with bots because they tend to try to melee them and get down in the process

[balmy shoal]

Ah, yeah I think they did that towards the end. The main issue I had was they kept following me around and I could never get to the back of it. Anything to note with it aside from popping those things on the back?

[burnt goblet]

Nothing really. Normally you would split 2-2 and one side get it's attention and the other shoot it's back, etc. That partially why I never did any of the d levels with bots, they don't mix will with tanks and mothers

[balmy shoal]

Mothers? goodness.

[burnt goblet]

Yeah just wait

You'll discover them soon

[balmy shoal]

Not if I can't get past this darn tank. I'll see if I can bug some friends into joinin.

[wary olive]

a good way to solo a tank is use elevation

https://youtu.be/NP2Si1spYrc?t=1408

[reef talon]

Yeah, retreat into the reactor room and use the elevated platforms

He can't get up himself

Easy to bait him between each other for back shots

[balmy shoal]

Oh. He can't climb up stairs? Well now I just feel bad for him

[fierce laurel]

MELEEE

oh I'm late to party

[urban mountain]

I just beat BX!
screw flying rock ball!

[daring pilot]

the noises those things make are so satisfying

[plush basin]

nice you did it

[urban mountain]

yeep,
quite harder then B1, but definitely more fun

[daring pilot]

wait tanks actually can't climb stairs?

I swear I've seen them do that before

[plush basin]

Stairs or ladders?

[next rapids]

i think he meant ladder

[regal thicket]

they can

[daring pilot]

i meant stairs, there's a comment from yesterday ab tanks struggling with the D1 reactor stairs

[half hornet]

Is the bx super laser ball a new enemy type?

[next rapids]

ye

[half hornet]

Also is it immortal or can you actually kill it? I just kept dodging it

[daring pilot]

you can indeed kill it

[next rapids]

you can damage it when it opens up or hit the tumors at their back

[half hornet]

So it's basically a flying tank, but even harder to flank

[next rapids]

sorta

1 sniper hit kills it tho

[kind swan]

Snipe it in the eye

😏

Or if you can. Cap that mf in the ass

I still laugh how my first time fighting them. I slid past it and shot gunned it in the ass.

[obtuse surge]

tanks struggle with height differences

not stairs specifically

possibly because their ai makes them hide the sacks from you

and getting close when there's a height difference will expose their sacks more

so instead of doing that

it'll just stand there

[thick burrow]

🧍‍♂️

[obtuse surge]

make toggle crouch disabled again by default

[kind swan]

People who say you can't slide cancel with toggle crouch

[atomic escarp]

Slide cancel?

[royal lichen]

bind to g, ta-tap, ta-tap... the pros do it w/ mouse5 ofc

[atomic escarp]

What does it do tho

[next rapids]

before rundown 6, you can move faster than sprinting by doing slide cancel

now you can use it to save some stamina

[kind swan]

Ye

[next rapids]

your heart rate doesn't go up as fast

[atomic escarp]

That sounds very useful how can I use it

[kind swan]

Constantly slide cancel as you sprint

Suskat

[mossy marsh]

e

[kind swan]

I see u

If you also set jumping to stand up. You could make use of slide reloading to maintain a little bit of momentum during your slide during the reload .
Slide>reload>jump
Or you can use slide cancelling to shoot while not having to slow down

[atomic escarp]

Kinda complicated no?

[mossy marsh]

nah

[next rapids]

not really

try it out

you'll see

[kind swan]

Really simple once you get it down

[atomic escarp]

I have like 8 hours in game, don't expect much from me

[next rapids]

haha

you got this

[vernal rose]

Its all about timing more than anything

[royal lichen]

default bind ctrl for pinky is no fun tho (imho)

[kind swan]

Personally I use L-Alt for crouch

[obtuse surge]

the stamina loss for the jump isn't even worth it

[next rapids]

i do dat

[kind swan]

It's an extra step for a bit more movement but yeah stamina loss nah

[royal lichen]

learning not to strafe while running is the challenge coming from other fps'es

luckily even 180 turns have zero impact on speed per se

[kind swan]

[atomic escarp]

Do I have to get all of those down?

[kind swan]

Nah

[royal lichen]

nope, u need to enjoy

[atomic escarp]

🤔

[royal lichen]

noone can tell u what fits your bill specifically :)

but sometimes running tf away or shooting that hybe w/o releasing shift might make a run

[atomic escarp]

I have yet to encounter a situation where I might use that

Maybe c3 idk

[mossy marsh]

in the end it's just extra utility
you don't lose anything if you don't use it

unless you kite, but that's already a skill issue problem

[royal lichen]

any alarm where the mine fails or kills a teammate and u get swarmed, use any and all tricks available etc

[mossy marsh]

sprint tapping :troll:

[atomic escarp]

The only problem I had with any alarm is the d2 error and another class 5 one

First try got to the blood door then died to 4 big chargers

2nd died before I even got the class 5

And last was out of ammo once I got it

Then I was debating whether I should do secondary

[kind swan]

D2 Error is not making the mistake of not giving C foam a tool pack

Also funny when you have 1 guy stay behind at the multi scan door to defend

[royal lichen]

that error bit is a doozy. cfoam works good, helgun(s) work wonders

[atomic escarp]

I had mine deployer, double sniper sentry and bio

Hel gun was my saviour

[kind swan]

Yeah Error is easier with a C foam

Other wise you may have to use up that sniper sentry ammo

[kind surge]

you basically require mines and like 200% foam unless you have 80% c-foam portion booster

[atomic escarp]

Dealing with 3 chargers wasn't that bad

It was the class 5 and blood door

[kind swan]

Yeah the class 5 multi scan

[atomic escarp]

Had to make sure I don't trip scout and 4 big guys but I did cuz my aim is the best

[next rapids]

200% c-foam will make that easy^

[kind swan]

That's easier with a C foam

[atomic escarp]

How do you do circles and c foam at the same time

[mossy marsh]

everything is easier with cfoam

[atomic escarp]

Bots don't do em unless u close

[kind swan]

1 person c foam while the other 3 focus scans

[royal lichen]

one foams, 3 scan.. unless bots. u dont.

[kind swan]

Ah solo with bots?

Rip

[atomic escarp]

Yes

[next rapids]

ping bots to foam then?

[royal lichen]

u made class5 w/ 3bots? ....