just ran out of ammo
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
plush basin
hexed vapor
It was a big test of whether or not you actually saved enough ammo and had the right weapons to clear efficiently.
queen field
If you look for the key fast & handle the class 5 alarm well, the level wasn't that much of a problem
hexed vapor
Overload only was a lot harder.
hexed vapor
It gives you less resources and you have to manage fog repellers in addition to your ammo to not lose.
queen field
All of that to retrieve a fog turbine
hexed vapor
Hot take: If BC actually only did 20 damage per shot, it might have been balanced.
I didn't use it much, but it seemed overrated for anything besides chargers.
hexed vapor
Only thing that would probably need a nerf is charge time to make burst cancel less powerful.
queen field
supposedly all bullets hit the tank
or basically cancel any input besides movements when shooting with BC
that way you can't burst cancel in any way
and you can still move while shooting
hexed vapor
I don't mind burst cancel tbh, it's a decent form of skill expression, there are plenty of other ways to nerf it without making burst weapons cancer to use.
queen field
how can it be a skill expression when it takes 10 min to master it ?
hexed vapor
Longer charge-up, probably a precision nerf, maybe an ammo nerf.
queen field
Not to mention a macro will do it consistently
queen field
Hey lemme use macros in DRG
much better to press a button rather than holding it ๐
Anyway, burst cancel just destroys the whole point of burst cannon
hexed vapor
Charge-up would largely fix the issue.
queen field
extremely strong weapon but you can't manage the ammos as well as you would with auto or semi-auto guns
indeed
more charge up = more time for sleepers to come close to you = less burst cancelling
hexed vapor
It would generally reduce its burst damage the earlier you cancel it.
queen field
that could be a thing
gradually increasing damage
although it physically makes no sense
hexed vapor
Single shot BC would be much much worse than 5 shot BC because of how much charge-up you invest per shot.
That could also work.
But extending the charge-up is a simpler change that does the job roughly as well while increasing the skill floor to use the weapon since you need to play around your downtime.
They could also lean into burst cancelling by giving it a huge damage buff but a massive ammo nerf, but this would make it way too good for bosses.
velvet flower
They already removed burst cancel, very rarely they'll add it back even burst cannon is back.
mortal granite
velvet flower
Didn't they?
queen field
nah they didn't
they patched it once
but people found a new way to do it
which, this time, hasn't been fixed at all
hexed vapor
They also had to roll back a fix to it to make it not aids for weapon swapping.
velvet flower
Just did a quick test, so esc doesn't work, that's why I think it's removed. But shove still works.
regal thicket
dtr cancel
mossy marsh
no level required that, it was all skill issue
neat sluice
Agreed. No level intended you to kite, except maybe the first alarm in E1. R6 is just too easy lul
The challenge is gone :(
atomic escarp
"the challenge is gone"
for you maybe but I'm sure that for majority of the playerbase the challenge is still there
sharp merlin
many people thought you were intended to kite r5c2 overload ๐ผ
velvet flower
Not a single level in GTFO forces you to kite.
sharp merlin
never done a run where didn't have to kite r4b2overload r4c2extreme
steep lake
Not a single level in GTFO forces you to kite.
r2e1 is the only one that forces you to not kill anything for the surges
aside from that, no level forces you to kite
fallow delta
"the challenge is gone"
Lots of times people forget having lots of hours in a game makes you better at it 
steep lake
r2e1 is the only one that forces you to not kill anything for the surges
like you could, but thats just pointless
fallow delta
Thought i agree the skill cealing does not feel TOO high
ashen citrus
Thought i agree the skill cealing does not feel TOO high
it has definatley gotten easier over the past few rundowns
i think it might be to welcome newer players and keep them engaged
it might get harder in rundown 7 since the new player influx will prob die down by then
velvet flower
Even R2E1 Z593 surge is doable w/o kiting, but yeah, extremely hard.
steep lake
it might get harder in rundown 7 since the new player influx will prob die down ...
i honestly feel like the newer rundowns will continue to be segregated into the story mode missions & non-storymode missions
or as it is now, orange bordered is easier than white bordered
mossy marsh
Lots of times people forget having lots of hours in a game makes you better at i...
:trolley:
fallow delta
it might get harder in rundown 7 since the new player influx will prob die down ...
Agreed
steep lake
Even R2E1 Z593 surge is doable w/o kiting, but yeah, extremely hard.
the entire map has 2 surges at the earlier portions where shooting is really just wasting ammo
ashen citrus
i hope it goes back to rundown 3 - 4 difficultly
steep lake
the entire map has 2 surges at the earlier portions where shooting is really jus...
shooting at the end is okay when you start to transport the neonate to extract
ashen citrus
imo right where it needs to be
steep lake
i hope it goes back to rundown 3 - 4 difficultly
r4 difficulty was in the sweetest spot for this game tbh
mossy marsh
to be fair, seems like devs only really managed to fully understand the balancing until now
R5 was ok in balance, but still needed some smol (minuscule) adjustments. Which? idk, I can't recall
velvet flower
It's the same argument for R4C2 extreme, people kite because it saves so much resource.
steep lake
It's the same argument for R4C2 extreme, people kite because it saves so much re...
isnt that the reactor
or do you mean the open security doors overload
velvet flower
R4, not R5
steep lake
It's the same argument for R4C2 extreme, people kite because it saves so much re...
where do you actually kite in r4? i dont actually recall
is it to get the 2 ids?
velvet flower
Yep, get 2 ids and open overload bulkhead.
steep lake
did people actually kite? wtf?
i dont recall ever having kited that unless it was 3/4 down
you usually get 1.5 scans done before the wave arrives iirc
velvet flower
True, but you can open all 3 surge alarms simultaneously and kite to complete all 3 surge together.
And the strat did somewhat popular in random lfgs
steep lake
True, but you can open all 3 surge alarms simultaneously and kite to complete al...
i believe it was 2 surges only, but the difficulty of c2 extreme was really quite low once you got a hang of how pushing the wave works
velvet flower
It's potential 3, 2 ids can spawn in one zone or seperate.
steep lake
And the strat did somewhat popular in random lfgs
but i agree, most lfgs i found in r4/5 resorted to kiting only
steep lake
It's potential 3, 2 ids can spawn in one zone or seperate.
i dont remember ever seeing 3 doors, it was one bulkhead door and 2 sec doors
velvet flower
That's 3. 2 for id zones one for overload bulkhead.
steep lake
hmm
mossy marsh
but i agree, most lfgs i found in r4/5 resorted to kiting only
should've brought C-Foam and reinforced every door you pass by
no more kiting :troll:
steep lake
should've brought C-Foam and reinforced every door you pass by
no more kiting :t...
pretty much yeah
but from all the lfgs i've seen, people only use cfoam for doors
and if there's no doors, the cfoam will never come out lol
velvet flower
It's kinda new strat after late R5, so understandable.
mossy marsh
( it's a troll strat )
steep lake
It's kinda new strat after late R5, so understandable.
cfoaming doors has been around since r2
since uplink missions
velvet flower
I'm refering to c-foam on the ground
steep lake
oh
that
i think people still only use that on ladder to laddercheese
not actually ont he ground
it is quite hard to try new things in this game when some veterans are very insistentt on bringing specific things to do specific things only though
especially when you're just a newbie
mossy marsh
<Now you see, we are gonna bring three burst sentries and let them kill all the waves in the class five alarm>
Then proceeds to die 'cause they didn't have C-Foam
velvet flower
I do see quite some lfg teams using c-foam on the ground strat in many levels including C1/C3/D4
steep lake
I do see quite some lfg teams using c-foam on the ground strat in many levels in...
havent seen too much in my last 30 games
but i guess it might just be the people im playing with
sharp merlin
probably just throwing cfoam nades in chokepoints on c1 t scan
velvet flower
Nah, I mean using launcher
steep lake
use as you see fit
ebon stratus
Is it me or C3 overload is easier than secondary?
mossy marsh
eh, if you know where stuff is then it becomes relatively easier
people just suck at fog diving
ebon stratus
people just suck at fog diving
Me
vernal rose
Is it me or C3 overload is easier than secondary?
You're not wrong tbh
queen field
secondary makes you waste more time for sure
mossy marsh
just checkpoint cheese it :troll:
queen field
xd
ebon stratus
Also are you supposed to split up to find the cells?
I'm just bad at endless alarms so 
mossy marsh
you can, but I wouldn't recommend it tbh
going in team is more convenient and tbh dealing with the waves is easy as long as you mine them
or kite them, but that's gae
queen field
cfoam mine
done
xd
pick a cell, place it in front of the class 1 sec door
go find the other one
same thing
go back to secondary
place everything
now wait 5+ min in front of the extraction sec door
mossy marsh
mine op pls nerf @ dev
ebon stratus
So let me get this straight, if you only do main the only thing you have to do is survive until the timer runs out?
mossy marsh
then do the extraction scan
ebon stratus
then do the extraction scan
mossy marsh
you are also forced to move forward to it since fog eventually rises covering a big chunk of previous zones
also haha embed fail
laugh now
ebon stratus
also haha embed fail
:(
I mean it would be a pretty cool concept if I didn't suck at this game
Had to replay C2 like 5 times
atomic escarp
damn I got pinged 5 whole ass times
queen field
absolute state of scambots
normal pelican
Players: nOOOOOoooO THIS RUNDOWN IS NOT CHALLENGING, CHECKPOINTS KILLED THE GAME
Also players: use reload animation cancel, sliding reload, slideway stamina preservation, force spawning cap, infinite kiting/bunny hop stealth exploit for the previous rundowns, and every other exploit and bugs available to make the game easier
sly badger
I feel like if they make it so enemy and item placements are randomized after checkpoints, then they'd be more of a time save than tool to make the game easier
Or it might at the very least stop veterans from shitting their pants when checkpoints are brought up
Well, that's unfair for me to say. The crybaby veterans
The ones who bitch about anything and everything
normal pelican
you mean half of this channel's people
sly badger
Pretty much, yeah
regal thicket
they had 2 years to sync reload times so
and there's nothing wrong with reload cancelling, while as animation skipping is debatable
wary olive
whats the difference?
regal thicket
reload cancelling is when you cancel a reload to do another action
obtuse surge
skipping the animation means you dont let it fully play out but still get your reload
regal thicket
^
brittle light
i.e. the sniper can be reloaded at least twice as quickly if you do it
obtuse surge
they're very aware of it so they should have either been balancing around it
or they should just do something about it
regal thicket
bullpup rifle :^
turbid cliff
In certain mmos at least we refer to these as animation cancelling
Though it's referring to player skill animations there usually, it's same shit with weapon reloads
Don't see a point in arguing semantics here
candid dragon
Should be able to reload faster by mashing R or having high pluse.
Just because my legs are about to fall off doesn't mean i wouldn't reload just a tad faster.
wary olive
what if reloading if youre 29/30 made you lose 29 bullets
heavy siren
skipping the animation means you dont let it fully play out but still get your r...
Wtf was that always a separate definition? I mean it makes sense but I always referred to that as reload cancel, as in, the reload meaning reload animation.
I'm pretty sure in every other game everyone refers to that as reload cancel.
In that sense I sometimes cfoam cancel as in not let it out by switching weapon
sly badger
Shaved 40 years off my life by getting all the terminals in the mother + scout zone in D2 solo, only to die after to the giants in the spitter room
I am going to cry
heavy siren
Giants spitter room was the first room I found on my solo run just to see what the level is about. I quit expedition after seeing that.
obtuse surge
there are cases where people actually mean cancelling a reload
so by calling something that's not cancelling a reload you're allowing for trouble there
obtuse surge
i think its never fine
heavy siren
Cuz I noticed I rather wait for full animation when I have to wait not sprinting some time anyway
obtuse surge
dumb mechanic
obtuse surge
they could just not have it and balance around not having it
heavy siren
I mean what game doesn't have animation skip
obtuse surge
they got rid of the slight slide boost because they didn't like players feeling like they should do that
so i dont know why they wouldn't do something about this either
obtuse surge
I mean what game doesn't have animation skip
polished games where devs try to make sure the most viable playstyles don't include annoying things
i think i've played at least a couple games where i didn't quite get rewarded for doing weird things
heavy siren
At least here animation skip is done well and is intuitive
I've played games where there is a delay on the moment of animation getting the mag in and actually getting the mag in
obtuse surge
if it costed them nothing to just have reload animations end when a weapon is reloaded, im fairly certain they would pick that option
normal pelican
As u can't sprint and reload
the thing is there is another overused exploit where you can slide when you reload so you don't lose your momentum
normal pelican
polished games where devs try to make sure the most viable playstyles don't incl...
this
obtuse surge
the thing with those overused unintentional things is that they kind of become part of the balance
but that's not a big deal if they just simply adjust the balance when fixing them
if skipping part of the reload animation isn't possible anymore
it probably shouldn't mean that the reload times should all be as lengthy as they currently are with their full animations
normal pelican
tbh to me most of videos, despite sometimes be impressive feats, get ruined by constantly seeing the dude slide as they sprint, slide reload, reload cancel... which is not even their fault, it's part of the game but it shouldn't
feels like I'm looking at weird gimmicks over and over
obtuse surge
yes
normal pelican
it probably shouldn't mean that the reload times should all be as lengthy as the...
I completely agree, if they fix the animation reload they also need to reduce the actual reload imo
heavy siren
Sprint then when u press slide u insta press reload?
obtuse surge
after sprint slide you only slowly lose momentum
rather than just walking immediately
heavy siren
But how do u initiate reload slide I don't get it
obtuse surge
as soon as you slide yes
heavy siren
Weird
obtuse surge
you can also jump
normal pelican
But how do u initiate reload slide I don't get it
obtuse surge
at least they fixed sprint reload for this rundown
heavy siren
Idk I prob not gonna use this
The only issue for me is the speed after deploying a mine
obtuse surge
i really dislike those slowdowns but you can actually exploit them too
all it does is prevent you from initiating a sprint
if you are sprinting before the slowdown, you get to keep sprinting
heavy siren
Also something I see ppl do in the videos is make the camera angle weird while hacking to skip the lock open delay I'd say thatd be useful too
obtuse surge
i think the angle thing is often just so you can still see whats going on around you
shouldn't make it faster
heavy siren
It does tho
obtuse surge
but you can exit out of the hack prompt once it finishes
which makes it faster
that's not really an angle thing?
heavy siren
Completely skips the holding the tool thingy
obtuse surge
yeh you're just missunderstanding what happens lol
you can simply hit esc once its done
and then it closes it
heavy siren
If I switch from tool while holding it in that moment, the lock doesnt open. I've tried it
obtuse surge
yes...
you have to wait just enough
you can just look at when the lock disapears
that's when you're allowed to back out of the prompt
obtuse surge
they don't skip that much waiting lol
they back out of it once it unlocks
once you see the hack disappear
heavy siren
They do they don't wait at all and it opens im always like wtf that's bs
obtuse surge
once the lock disappears
thats all
then you back out of it
it's a lot faster than waiting for the game to back out of it by itself
but it's not an angle thing
they probably just start moving again once it's done
heavy siren
Well in my experience it disappearing take a shit load of seconds all the time
obtuse surge
that's why you think its an angle thing
the lock itself disappearing doesn't take that long
only the prompt does
which is what im telling you
you back out of the prompt yourself
once the hack disappears
as in physically disappears from the container/door
heavy siren
Idk man I've had to rehack several times like this so from now on I just let the game do its thing I don't trust it
Literally every other action I can exploit a little and be faster and efficient but hacking locks just warps my sense of time
grizzled ravine
You ever just look to see the lock disappear by moving the minigame away from the lock?
So, you can just hit esc.
heavy siren
I think that's what they do in videos
obtuse surge
so yes like i said not an angle thing
you just hit esc
you might want to change the way you're facing to help your vision
thats all..
grizzled ravine
You should move it away anyways because it's blue on fucking blue and the hacklock is orange and the proper unlock part is orange as well.
Good color choices
heavy siren
I'll have to try, but lately I'm boosting my jack skill down to negative hundred so someone else does it more often than not
obtuse surge
it also doesn't make the hack any faster
grizzled ravine
1 bars ain't that bad
obtuse surge
it simply allows you to interacts with things again faster
heavy siren
It's not the hack faster it's the delay after
Similar to mine deploy
Takes fucking ages
obtuse surge
a teammate that's standing next to you could interact with whatever you unlocked even if you still have the prompt
grizzled ravine
You can run mine deploy and remove the delay, or it's like some weird slide bunk that I cannot remember how to input properly.
heavy siren
Noooo I wanna see the green highlight and make sure I do good job deploying a mine
grizzled ravine
Ok. Still stating you can remove the mine put down delay.
obtuse surge
all it does is prevent you from initiating a sprint
if you are sprinting before the slowdown, you get to keep sprinting
grizzled ravine
Ah good, yes yes.
obtuse surge
and its affected by latency in a way that if you were to have 100ms latency it means that as long as you start sprinting within 100ms of placing it, that will count
grizzled ravine
Ah. I see.
obtuse surge
if you're placing the mine against a wall, you can just sprint against the wall as you're placing it
and you'll get to keep that sprint going
the slowdown from lock melters works the same way
heavy siren
Can slide deploy keep sprint
obtuse surge
no
slide actually takes you out of sprint meaning you have to initiate a sprint again
which you won't be allowed to do
heavy siren
1 bars ain't that bad
Pretty bad
I just like sliding into bonks
That's a good skill to have I reckon
Especially when we are close to alarming the whole room, that move can save the day
grizzled ravine
If it makes it easier for you to do absolutely nothing, then sure.
tall igloo
1 bars ain't that bad
i agree
hasty sierra
does anyone know the zone the tank is in for d3
grizzled ravine
which part
hasty sierra
the main
hasty sierra
after you do the reactor there is a tank where you get the bulkhead right what zone it that
wary olive
219 i think
hasty sierra
your sure not 289
wary olive
that might be it, for sure it ends in 9 though
hasty sierra
ok and 1 more thing you can do either main or overload first right
and for sure there is a bulkhead key in main
wary olive
yes
reef talon
I don't recommend doing main first, unless you plan on doing main, getting bulkhead and finishing overload before completing main
for...reasons
grizzled ravine
If you're not fast, just don't do main first.
It just becomes annoying post-15 minutes :/
reef talon
you can be the fastest human alive, but it will still take more than 15 minutes to do both overload and extreme after main
one or the other is fine
fallow delta
It just becomes annoying post-15 minutes :/
My D3 clear with main first (pe) had a time of 1hr and 52min
We had fog from like wave 2 or 3
It was a mess and i am not sure how we managed with no checkpoints and no one knowing where to go
Thank god terminals are a thing
I got the last ID as soon as surge started, it was so scuffed
queen field
you can be the fastest human alive, but it will still take more than 15 minutes ...
or you could just do overload during wave 5
solemn wigeon
Or you could do overload first
dim sequoia
hello everyone, who remembers the number of the expedition in the previous rundowns, where was the S scan with the size of the room, with the tank at the end?
regal thicket
b3ex
dim sequoia
R5C2 :)
plush basin
B3 did have a tank at the end?
Unless you can avoid it with bioscan boosters or something
grizzled ravine
B3 technically could have unlimited tanks, iirc, just not at the "end"
regal thicket
if someone went down in b3ex, an extra tank will usually always spawn
dim sequoia
for some time I tried to remember the expedition number in order to find the video, thanks for the tip, I found it with the help of b3!
grizzled ravine
I'm like 99% sure it's just time based.
dreamy bramble
^
queen field
it is indeed
fierce laurel
huh I remember scaler telling me that if you kill the first one a second will spawn
velvet flower
If you don't kill the first one, the 2nd one will still spawn.
R5C2 overload is tank-tank-mother, so not really a tank in the end of S scan.
atomic escarp
is there a big mother in r6 at all?
regal thicket
i once got 3 tanks in b3ex cuz we did a funny
still had 4 uses of ammo left and all of us were 40-30%
lfg so hard
atomic escarp
or was big mother just an exclusive to earlier rundowns
ashen citrus
or was big mother just an exclusive to earlier rundowns
i think it was only R3
fierce laurel
is there a big mother in r6 at all?
C2
oh pmother
no pmother
it's not really exclusive
just doesn't appear this rundown
R3 R4 and R5 all had one
ashen citrus
i never remember one in R5
fierce laurel
R3D1 last room, R4E1 final room and R5D1 ex
fierce laurel
pooping noises
mossy marsh
C-Foam :troll:
fierce laurel
where my tripmines when I need them
mossy marsh
tripmine in R5A1
mossy marsh
Kite the p-mom 
amber skiff
where my tripmines when I need them
I tripped on them ๐
fierce laurel
die
amber skiff
wind pilot
mossy marsh
big baby shadow charger scout tanks
kind surge
Think this: a new enemy type, "the bonebreaker". A large heavily armored enemy, that can break down doors with one hit, and can only do close range heavy hitting melee attacks. Primary weakness; it is deaf. You can be as loud as you want without waking it, but if it sees you, it's time to run.
viscid nova
Advice needed: on C1, during the first error alarm, we need to find a key in zone 145 on the way to the terminal in zone 146 to shut off the alarm. The problem is that there doesn't seem to be any sort of way to ping the key, as there is no terminal in zone 145. Are we meant to just dig through every storage in 145 hoping to find it quickly, or is there something I'm missing with the terminals? I feel like there has always been a way to ping hidden objective items in past runs.
steep lake
Advice needed: on C1, during the first error alarm, we need to find a key in zon...
there is a terminal at zone 145
viscid nova
huh.
steep lake
that would be the error zone right?
viscid nova
ok i couldnt find it. theres one right before it in zone 144
steep lake
when you enter, go straight, head left instead of opening the large security door on the right
viscid nova
ok thanks! i will check it out
steep lake
let me dig a map
viscid nova
glad the way i was doing it was wrong lol because that was frustrating
solemn wigeon
Kill them
tall igloo
How
regal thicket
shoot gun
tall igloo
Ok
rugged pebble
Mother
For the first mother room on D2, there's a ladder strat to sit outside the room on top of the ladder (right side of the door) and spam your hammer. Non-charged hammer hits on the heat one-shots the babies.
Once they're cleared out, wait till mother gets close to the entrance and rush her! If you have team.. easy! If solo, 2 scattershots in the right place gets her.
Wasting ammo on those lil guys isn't efficiรซnt.
tall igloo
Me and reese are doing thst rn
wary olive
For the first mother room on D2, there's a ladder strat to sit outside the room ...
2 shot scattergun works only if you're client, not host
rugged pebble
2 shot scattergun works only if you're client, not host
Go ahead and be specific -_- You don't kill it, you just shoot some more
wary olive
?
if you are client (not the person hosting the lobby) you can overdamage tumors, meaning you will deal full damage to the mom and only pop 1 tumor. If you are host, you will shoot and only deal damage = to the tumor's hp. and the damage from a point blank scattergun shot far exceeds the hp of 1 tumor
vernal oar
Think this: a new enemy type, "the bonebreaker". A large heavily armored enemy, ...
Dude so many people would panic and get slaughtered for days
normal pelican
if you are client (not the person hosting the lobby) you can overdamage tumors, ...
...what
why would that work like that
what's this netcode
brittle light
no it makes sense
it's a ping problem
each pellet deals damage
and as the host, if you destroy the tumor, the rest of the pellets fly through
with even just 100ms lagg (or less) as a client, the tumor breaks too late and all the pellets hit instead of flying through
which, in the end, deals more damage on one tumor, since more of the pellets have been counted
regal thicket
expecting netcode to be good from pd devs
queen field
L
amber skiff
Think this: a new enemy type, "the bonebreaker". A large heavily armored enemy, ...
Deaf/line of sight boss enemy would be cool as hell
would add an awesomely fun new stealth aspect to the game
normal pelican
Think this: a new enemy type, "the bonebreaker". A large heavily armored enemy, ...
but how does it even wake up if its deaf
mossy marsh
would need to have specific spawns
kind surge
but how does it even wake up if its deaf
if someone shoots you with a BB gun, do you think your not going to notice because you can't hear it firing? also, like normal sleepers, i'd imagine it will go into an active state every little bit. like how they jiggle and glow every now and then, except it'd just open it's eyes. though, i'd assume they'd have to make it easier to tell where exactly it is looking. a bright red glow perhaps?
mossy marsh
I imagine like that one tank in the labs on that one level that I can't recall 'cause I forgor ๐
normal pelican
I imagine like that one tank in the labs on that one level that I can't recall '...
D1 ?
I rember ๐
queen field
I imagine like that one tank in the labs on that one level that I can't recall '...
R4D2 ๐
R4C1 ๐
R5C2 ๐
mossy marsh
:trollge:
heavy siren
Deaf/line of sight boss enemy would be cool as hell
host client different line of sight of course
amber skiff
Host issues galore yes pleasr xP
queen field
host client different line of sight of course
D e s y n c s
amber skiff
I miss old host scout animations
amber skiff
Skill issue ;p
queen field
Now i can go fwoosh
amber skiff
Jkjk
fierce laurel
should've flipped the animation
queen field
basically the host animation ?
amber skiff
should've flipped the animation
Shouldve flipped the scout
queen field
Wait till they add a prone animation for scouts
fierce laurel
Shouldve flipped the scout
TRU
amber skiff
Crouching and crawling scouts yes please
Make scouts a bit less predictable and more variety in their movement
Would be nice ๐
fierce laurel
handstand scout
queen field
Somehow i think scout triggering to our sounds/lights should crouch as a defence mechanism
hexed vapor
Wait till they add a prone animation for scouts
It exists, just isn't used.
hexed vapor
Still opportunities to use the other striker scout animations, too.
amber skiff
KITE THE PRISONERS
Patch notes: "In order to prevent bunny hopping and kiting, we taught the sleepers how to Bhop as well"
"good luck have fun"
fierce laurel
fuckin arena shooter type beat
amber skiff
tanks and big chargers bouncing at you in R5C2 overload ๐ณ
fierce laurel
give them the csgo acceleration mechanic
amber skiff
give them the valorant bullet slow mechanic
amber skiff
when you get shot you move slower
may I present
hybrids :>
eww, fuck I hate what I just said xD
fierce laurel
no stop presenting
amber skiff
nightmare nightmare nightmare nightma-
fierce laurel
go back to your blood door
amber skiff
sir yes sir
regal thicket
nice r7 leak
grizzled mesa
We tried Overload in D3, everything went well but then the enemies spawned in the room near the tank room for no reason
nocturne flax
they remove the indication for shooter fyi
grizzled mesa
Why do the enemies spawn in the room near the tank room?
Are they supposed to spawn there
regal thicket
someone's in a moment
grizzled mesa
Talking about the error alarm
Does the group have to defend in the spawn area or in the middle room with the bulkhead dc
grizzled mesa
So the next room
fierce laurel
or they get pushed to somewhere else
grizzled mesa
Or behind the wall
errant vigil
No there's a sound barrier between spawn and the second room
It's A-B
The doors go to two rooms away
grizzled mesa
Okay
rancid cradle
can someone explain how to deactivate both error alarms on D2 secondary so that you dont have to deal with the fricken fliers while tryong tp scan
rancid cradle
ok not an error alarm but one time i played and someone used the terminal that deactivates the error alarm to also deactivate the fricken fliers in secondary
solemn wigeon
Which is fat cheese
solemn wigeon
Im lactose intolerant sorry
rancid cradle
understandable
rancid cradle
fair enough
solemn wigeon
Fighting them there is good practice for killing them anyway
solemn wigeon
If you cant kill them you'll be fucked for levels which include them but you cant turn off alarms
solemn wigeon
Im talking future levels kekw
rancid cradle
ive done it both ways its just more convenient to not lol
rancid cradle
gamers gaming
regal thicket
kiting is a skill
solemn wigeon
Kiting is no skill
regal thicket
I circle kite flyers
rancid cradle
i am a kite
solemn wigeon
๐ช
mossy marsh
I circle kite the mom :troll:
rancid cradle
bro ๐
regal thicket
why yes i circle kited 40+ babies how did you know
alpine jacinth
yo anyone know how long D4 is? A friend and I are trying to schedule a window for us to give it a shot
signal fox
About 1 hour 30 minutes if youโre slow and donโt reset from checkpoint
quasi citrus
yo anyone know how long D4 is? A friend and I are trying to schedule a window fo...
Realistically it might take you like 3 hours with checkpoints if its your first time.
alpine jacinth
Alright yeah, for the two of us with two bots it took us 4 hours 30 mins to beat D3 overload, and we're just concerned about staying up too late tonight
thanks
sharp merlin
Bruh was it all covered in fog or what
idle matrix
What shows up after 15 minutes in D3 after the reactor?
orchid sorrel
it starts a surge alarm I'm pretty sure
tiny horizon
Can't remember the level with the one room where there's like two mother's a tank and I think a bunch of scouts? Drawing a blank here.
nocturne flax
R5E1
tiny horizon
On R6 though I mean. I remember a room in C or D, not mandatory, but definitely has a mother in it and a couple scouts.
Might be D2 actually.
fallow delta
What shows up after 15 minutes in D3 after the reactor?
So much crap starts spawning on the map that you will probably die
steep lake
Might be D2 actually.
D2 when you opt not to do the charger error alarm. there is no tank unless you do extreme, which is its own thing
regal thicket
same with r6
paper harness
is there ever a room with mom tank and scout?
tall igloo
idk
queen field
No but there is one with mother & tank
paper harness
I don't think there are any rooms with all 3 in it
tall igloo
hell
nocturne flax
there's no room in R5E1 with moms tanks and scouts in the same room
There was a room woth two moms and and the next zone with a tank and scout, i just mention it because he couldnt remember
Wish they did all 3 in the same room
MiniBosses aint shit when you have doors to use and theyre alone
fallow delta
Scout isn't really too much of an issue if you are patient
paper harness
throw in an error for good measure
fallow delta
Now, fill a room with a few charger scouts and mini bosses and that sounds more problematic
steep lake
Now, fill a room with a few charger scouts and mini bosses and that sounds more ...
now throw in an error for double the extra measure
fallow delta
The kraken spawns if the scout gets awaken
plush basin
Well a single person can't kill them with a standard charged attack so you'll have to shoot or find another way
plush basin
Cfoam is a good idea. Cfoam then a couple bops
fallow delta
Wait, was your giant kill question legit? @tall igloo
tall igloo
yeah
fallow delta
is charger scouts hard to kill
For charger scouts you have
- cfoam
- any type of burst damage you can deal in around 0.2-0.3 seconds, that means 2 sledges or any variation of shooting
- a few weapons in the back, sniper and shotgun for example (shotguns need to land all pallets)
- yellow syringe
tall igloo
ok
fallow delta
Oh my bad, thought you were someone who changed name. Here https://youtu.be/lsGBJ5g_kLU
This is a solo stealth with sledge
Without stealth in mind, it is much easier
fallow delta
I prefer to do that first, so if i mess up at least i dealt a lot of damage and may clutch the stealth kill if i mess up
tall igloo
no like dead
paper harness
not that hard to duo them if your teammate has hands
just make sure host doesn't hit first and usually someone other than host counts down
tall igloo
solo ๐
queen field
Hmmm yes solo charger scouts
tall igloo
d2 has chargers
plush basin
D1 is more fun
tall igloo
yep
tall igloo
kiting?
fallow delta
You never need kiting in this rundown (unless solo)
tall igloo
im failing a1 solo ๐ฆ
queen field
what in the world do you wanna kite there
plush basin
Solo d2, kite them out of extreme so you can go back and work the two terminals ๐
tall igloo
idk!
queen field
homogae
tall igloo
ima retry a1
thick burrow
You never need kiting in this rundown (unless solo)
Whattt??
People said that the game is designed around kiting ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ
tall igloo
yep
tall igloo
Bhop?
burnt goblet
Crouch jumping basically, you could essentially sprint and not wake up rooms
queen field
The thing is you don't crouch jump in GTFO
That's the way it's done in PD2
in GTFO it was simply running & spamming jumps
since you didn't make noise in the air
burnt goblet
Opens Blood door on A1, expecting normal sleepers
Tank charges you
"We call this a difficulty tweak!"
tall igloo
scrollup
solemn wigeon
๐
tall igloo
I playec1 more
tall igloo
I had 2 a1
solemn wigeon
I had 2 a1
Forgive me, for I depend solely on camera for rocket league
tall igloo
What s rocket league
solemn wigeon
What s rocket league
A bad game
tall igloo
Ok
mossy marsh
Someone had like 35 D1 clears but only 1 A1 clear
we truly live in a society
solemn wigeon
we truly live in a society
Wanna help me get 35 C2 Sec clears?
mossy marsh
not enough time ๐
solemn wigeon
๐
tall igloo
C2 :why:
solemn wigeon
C2 is unironically the best level this rundown
tall igloo
No
mossy marsh
could only play a single match of D1 yesterday after like 1-2 weeks of no gamering
and C2 is quite the level
tbh
velvet flower
Imagine there's a machinegun manic who has 200 D1 clear.
mortal portal
I'm still sad I only got 1,1,1,1 clears on D3 
mossy marsh
C2 EX is one of the funniest vibe checks on bad players lol
I demand more fog levels
solemn wigeon
C2 has a decent challenge for newer players, and Secondary is still interesting even with high level players
tall igloo
Fog
mossy marsh
fog is also a big vibe check in knowing how to minimize/nullify the infection
mortal portal
I noticed that at least 50% of new players throw in the towel on C2 and leave the game, while the other 50 keeps going.
mossy marsh
cause C2 requires a different approach compared to previous levels
tall igloo
we played c2 wandered around in fog then died
mortal portal
And then there's C3
velvet flower
Because C2 is the first real challenging level this rundown.
tall igloo
give 100 fog repellers
velvet flower
A beginner can smoothly get through A1 B1 B2 C1 D1, then finally stuck on
C2
mossy marsh
In C2, you can either be really fast and make the infection effectively useless
or be methodical and use repellers and smart strats to minimize your infection
I would argue it's of the "old school" levels of R6
solemn wigeon
C3 is also a unique challenge to beginner players, since it's a different vibe to everything else being a pure timer based level. the problem with C3 is that Secondary and Overload don't really provide much more in terms of challenge for more advanced players
mossy marsh
5 hours on A1 :troll:
tall igloo
Swimmin in fog
mossy marsh
C3 is also a unique challenge to beginner players, since it's a different vibe t...
the secondary is painful cause it just makes you waste some time and makes you change strats, but other than that it is easy as fuck
the overload is kind of a vibe check since you have to do the long ass scan and then kill a tank, which a lot of players are not really ready to do under a lot of pressure
both can be made easy with knowledge of basic game tech and strats lol
solemn wigeon
Exactly, but C2 has you spend between 50-80% of the downtime between Hybrid spawns clearing out the hybrids, effectively constantly keeping everyone in check
and then to make it harder, you have to manage it surrounded by fog
mossy marsh
eh, rather than the fog it would be the scouts
solemn wigeon
The scouts aren't really a problem imo unless you get poor rng and have 2 of them in the fog areas
mossy marsh
it's kinda hard, for new players, to take care of a scout when the sniper guy (if they have one) is focusing on the hybrids and nobody in the team knows how to stealth hammer them
solemn wigeon
I'm trying to look at it from the perspective of which optionals were made for
C2 main is still hard enough as is for beginners
regal thicket
lf c3 no rushing
solemn wigeon
if we looked at optionals for beginners, then C3 is also likely to cause big grief as secondary will make them waste a lot of time trying to locate cells
mossy marsh
B2 ex hardest objective :dogetroll:
solemn wigeon
B2 Ex just cringe
regal thicket
i love 1 room away spawns
mossy marsh
sharp merlin
r4b3 but better
mossy marsh
lmao
sharp merlin
maybe because they clear literally every room and ping every resource
just like, go forward lol
mossy marsh
it took me around 1:30-ish yesterday with a matchmake team
we didn't even play fast
the level is not hard
solemn wigeon
I cannot believe you just reminded me of the snooze fest that is R4B3
solemn wigeon
It was a 3 terminal uplink high, 2 cryo case retrieval in extreme, and a hard at the time backdoor command overload
wasn't it?
solemn wigeon
smh
sharp merlin
last terminal was a 3 zone room
and you could watch them spawn
if the door broke
but if you walked into the room then they'd spawn on the guy on the terminal lol
tall igloo
Is b2 secondary hard
mossy marsh
cheeeeeese
solemn wigeon
Tbh that Overload S scan by the blood door was actually kinda rough
sharp merlin
facts
solemn wigeon
but yeah R4B3 main was wack
sharp merlin
i long kited it too often
that level was just really resource scarce tbh
at least we got datacentre bridge tile
solemn wigeon
Resource scarce levels are good imo, but being able to kite it ruins the point, and adding too much tool
cough cough R5C3
mortal portal
The bridge is probably the best Datacenter tile, unless you wanna count the big room in R5C3
sharp merlin
Wasnt R5C3 like they gave you little ammo and lots of tool
I dont like R5C3 tile, it feels too empty
mortal portal
I think they only gave you 6 uses of ammo, and a shit ton of tool.
sharp merlin
never had to kite r5c3 unless team down on last alarm before uplink room
solemn wigeon
It's a really cool tile and good for the objective, but they ever consider using it again, they should try expand it more vertically
mossy marsh
Wasnt R5C3 like they gave you little ammo and lots of tool
Oops, sorry lad. My C-Foam launcher must be broken, I didn't want to C-Foam all the doors behind us. Guess we can't kite this time, might as well restart innit :troll:
mortal portal
A T scan would be good if they ever use that tile again.
solemn wigeon
Have more entrypoints/sec doors higher up
sharp merlin
There's another 2 door plugs that weren't used, making the zone a X tile
so most likely we'll see it
hopefully not as an uplink room
solemn wigeon
Quad corrupted uplink when
mossy marsh
I want reactor in digging site
sharp merlin
I'd like to see a reactor being used in the room, but unforunately that means a reconstruction of the room
mossy marsh
reactor in labs is weird
sharp merlin
reactor on R5B3 hub / R4C3 extreme generator tile would be hot
solemn wigeon
Imagine that tile with an entry point from a sec door on the ground floor, doing a T scan to the top and using a sec door at the top to leave
mossy marsh
reactor in alpha planet
mortal portal
I like how tiny the reactors look in Labs.
sharp merlin
like sectors doors leading into the mountain..
unfortunately i dont think the devs have the resource to add zones and shit into alpha desert
mossy marsh
floodways double uplink reactor :troll:
sharp merlin
double reactor
mossy marsh
sharp merlin
Main reactor with really long times between codes, but last code req. another reactor with short times for codes
solemn wigeon
yooo what if we had a small tunnel/corridor room tile where it's collapsed, but there's a small gap you could crawl through during an error alarm or even a normal one, and you'd have your teammates defend as you crawl through
sharp merlin
fnaf
solemn wigeon
Truely venting
mossy marsh
amongus
sharp merlin
๐ณ
mortal portal
Honestly, I feel like D2 uplinks actually require the entire team to have some sort of competence, you gotta either know how to do uplinks or deal with a wave of chargers (mostly on your own)
sharp merlin
do you guys know the gaster guy that talks someitmes on the chat here
i play D2 with him and when we get to the Uplink he say like "I know how to do this, yeah I"ve done it before"
lo and behold, as I give him the first code he says theres seomthing wrong with therminal
man was writing UPLINK VERIFY with no underscore
sharp merlin
๐
mossy marsh
:ujel:
solemn wigeon
Pranked
mortal portal
Trolled 
mossy marsh
sus'd
sharp merlin
+ratio +nobitches +0.99 booster progression
mossy marsh
โ ๏ธ Warning! Threat level: CBT โ ๏ธ
solemn wigeon
sharp merlin
now we're talking ๐
solemn wigeon
deez deez
mossy marsh
deezzy
sharp merlin
LFG C3 DN
solemn wigeon
looking for female prisoner
mossy marsh
tomboy
mossy marsh
Certified LFG classic
mortal portal
Absolute LFG moment
tall igloo
lfg
solemn wigeon
gfl
mossy marsh
good luck f[I've been advised to continue this joke no further]
regal thicket
girls frontline
queen field
Silence, weeb
mossy marsh
noscouts.jpg
regal thicket
how is it weeb when it's made by chinese
sterile scroll
Hello. how to disable the alarm in C1?
regal thicket
dea tab
queen field
Start le funny scan
look for le funny key
start le funny scan 2
look for le funny terminal
type le funny dea tab command
done
mossy marsh
how is it weeb when it's made by chinese
Weeb: ๅฐๆทๆท edition
queen field
how is it weeb when it's made by chinese
่ฅฟ่ ๅไผฏ็นๅ ๅ ญๅๅฝฉ ๅคฉๅฎ้ GTFO ้ญไบฌ็ ็ ่จ่ซ FPS ๆดพ้ฌฅๅๆๆณขๅจ HORROR ่ซพ่ฒ็พๅๅนณ็ 10 CHAMBERS ่ฅฟ่ BURST CANNON ๅฎๅๅ ฑ ๅ้ฉๅฝ ๆ่ญฐ ไพต็ฅ ๆ ๅฅช ็ ด EL MATI ๆ ่ฒท่ณฃไบบๅฃ SCATTERGUN ่ณฃๆทซ ๆฅ็ซ ่ณญๅ ๅ ญ
regal thicket
nmsl
mossy marsh
่ฅฟ่ ๅไผฏ็นๅ ๅ
ญๅๅฝฉ ๅคฉๅฎ้ GTFO ้ญไบฌ็ ็ ่จ่ซ FPS ๆดพ้ฌฅๅๆๆณขๅจ HORROR ่ซพ่ฒ็พๅๅนณ็ 10 CHAMBERS ่ฅฟ่ BURST CAN...
ๆฉไธๅฅฝไธญๅฝ็ฐๅจๆๆๅฐๆทๆทๆๅๆฌขๅฐๆทๆทไฝๆฏ GTFO ๆฏๆๆๅๆฌข็ 10cc ๅฐๆทๆทๅฅฝๆไปฅ...้ณไนๆถ้ด็ฐๅจๅๅคๅฅฝไบ 1 2 3 ไธคๅจ GTFO x 3 ไธ่ฆๅฟ่ฎฐไธ่ฆ้่ฟ่ฎฐๅพๅป ่ธๆฑฝๅ็ฉ GTFo ๅ ไธบ้ๅธธๅฅฝ็ๆธธๆ้ๅธธๅฅฝๅ ไนไธๆ ท็ๅฐๆทๆทๅ่ง
queen field
๐ณ
sharp merlin
ๆไปฌๅฏไปฅๅๅฆๅฆๅฐๅป็ๆช๏ผ
tall igloo
ไฝ ๅฅฝๆไธไผ่ฏดไธญๆ
sharp merlin
good enough
tall igloo
ๆ่งๅพไฝ ๅฏไปฅ๏ผ
sharp merlin
yeah
tall igloo
ๆจๅคฉๆไบบ่ทๆ่ฏด่ฟ็ฑปไผผ็่ฏ
queen field
ๅ็่ดงๅๅๆงๆ
sharp merlin
shei gei ni shuo
queen field
piao piao
tall igloo
ๅ็่ดงๅๅๆงๆ
้ญๅดๆๅพ็ๆฐ
mossy marsh
si
regal thicket
the google translate is strong
queen field
For some reason my text translates back to "Impostors & homosexuals"
sharp merlin
new amongus update?
queen field
yeehaw
idle matrix
Conquered D3 yesterday as my first non-D1 D level. Do you folks recommend trying to knock out D2 next or D4?
queen field
stop playing
sly badger
โWhat do you mean you donโt want two reactors in D3?โ - The devs, probably
queen field
Next step is 2 babies
solemn wigeon
Honestly the double reactor setup was a good idea
queen field
Ngl i expected the first reactor to make the whole level go into darkness
hexed vapor
hey guys, new players looking for 2 please
Use the LFG channels, either #lfg-beginners or a regional channel.
regal thicket
if it made the level go dark, it's actually helping you because having shadows in brightly lit rooms lmao
sharp merlin
R4C3 extreme moment
dreamy bramble
yes
fierce laurel
tehe
high forge
Wtf why cant i see the scouts
ashen citrus
queen field
Wtf why cant i see the scouts
๐ณ
tall igloo
what
fallow delta
Scouts wake up the current room + waves
Not sure if the waves may scream in said room on the way
See it as a cilinder, so red line
And i am not too sure on exact scream mechanics. However do know that there is a global cooldown of 15secs between each scream, if i remember correctly
mortal portal
From what I know the enemies will only scream if they have line of sight with you.
But I might be wrong.
tall igloo
How to see without eyes
mortal portal
They see you with their souls
velvet flower
They don't need LOS to scream.
regal thicket
usually they scream in the zone between you and the sleeper, liek if you in a, sleeper in c, it screams in b
but it's not consistent
signal fox
they can't scream if they are 2 rooms away
it is just rng if they scream or not, if they are 0 or 1 rooms away
regal thicket
d3 with bots but shadows always scream in tank room even when i come out of the cell room
love it
normal pelican
But I might be wrong.
you are indeed wrong
mortal portal
I have failed 
atomic escarp
are there shadows in D3 main or only in optional objectives?
wary olive
there are shadows in d3 main in the reactor waves
hidden lynx
drowsy gulch
half heart
SHOULD I DO OVERLOAD FIRST?
D3 melee no booster PE no checkpoints no running
Do that as a first clear
thick burrow
Did they say anything about extension yet?
@broken scarab
broken scarab
We havenโt said anything yet
digital dawn
Thx Calle 
broken scarab
Haha, nothing to thank
solemn wigeon
Did they say anything about extension yet?
Fuck ur dumbass extension, I want R7
proven gull
Yeah, I want R4
thick burrow
We havenโt said anything yet
When will you guys say something?
Please Calle
I want to stop playing valorant
normal pelican
when you stop asking
thick burrow
Leak tomorrow or someone dies
broken scarab
Oh, can I pick whom?
broken scarab
I mean, thats my friends
thick burrow
Friends are temporary
solemn wigeon
I mean, thats my friends
A few internal conflicts are always needed
solemn wigeon
Choose before Rascal is picked ;w;
broken scarab
Me
solemn wigeon
An honourable choice
thick burrow
Donโt kill yourself youโre too sexy
broken scarab
(Come at me)
thick burrow
WAF WAF WOOF WOOF
solemn wigeon
Can we remove the french instead
thick burrow
Can we remove the french instead
YES
๐ค๐ค
I hate the french on gtfo and valorant
I canโt escape them
broken scarab
We have several french
thick burrow
Fire them
broken scarab
Merde
broken scarab
รa va?
broken scarab
qu'est-ce que tu fais?
solemn wigeon
I can't speak baguette ;c
broken scarab
Oui
normal pelican
Salut ร tous les amis
obtuse surge
que fait le chien
broken scarab
je suis sรจche cheveux
obtuse surge
what
thick burrow
obtuse surge
mossy marsh
extension with collision update and fix for whatever got messed up with clients
imagine they change collision, but make it technically impossible to solo in compensation
:troll:
also Calle is french now ๐ณ
broken scarab
Took french during highschool
thick burrow
I will force your game to be in french <@!593407017478258720>
that's it
you've crossed a line
broken scarab
Le line
atomic escarp
brutal
ebon stratus
How do you even stealth kill charger scouts?
normal pelican
How do you even stealth kill charger scouts?
foam is the safe way
ebon stratus
Yeah, I guessed so
But I remember watching a vid of someone killing them without foam
What is it, like 2 hits to the back?
mossy marsh
2 synced hammers to back
real moss
you've crossed a line
croissant a line*
queen field
What in the world happened for Calle to suddenly speak in french ?
mossy marsh
he ate a baguette
queen field
amazing
broken scarab
What in the world happened for Calle to suddenly speak in french ?
Brie cheese!
obtuse cedar
fierce laurel
baguette
heady crane
Question for D3. Would people say the first part before the checkpoint is the hardest part of the level? Or is there some other grim shit later in the level.. going through the room with two tanks in.. Twice.. with error alarms on I cant think of much worse than that tbh.
hexed vapor
Question for D3. Would people say the first part before the checkpoint is the ha...
Main or PE?
heady crane
planning to run it all in one go yeah