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neat sluice
solemn wigeon
You didnt cell skip it because you arent a simp
fierce laurel
I beat E1 once and never touched the level again
sharp merlin
Facts
neat sluice
Lmao
atomic escarp
inb4 you say E4PE is easy
regal thicket
i already got my matchmaking e1 clear in r5
sharp merlin
E5
neat sluice
Seriously I wasn't that good last rundown. I'm better now but still got ways to go :)
But to get better I need harder content kekw
regal thicket
I'm happy
atomic escarp
I fucking hate sleepers
the sound their tongue attack makes
makes me want to rip it out
and strangle them with it
regal thicket
shoot gun
neat sluice
I miss being able to jump above their tongues
opal island
hi
mossy marsh
😔
opal island
what the use of opening all the mother doors in d2 ?
like there is 4 mothers
and lots of grumpy scouts
opal island
i met 2 mothers with scout in same room
grave abyss
the room is random. The mother side can have 1-2 mothers per room.
if you have 0 scouts in the first room, you can end up w/ them all in the side room or back room.
in general, stealth the scouts and all the little extras in the room.
then give the mother a little goo'ing
and end her
if it's 2 mama's though, it might be better to just try and stealth the obj.
opal island
we did 1 run skipping the mother and scout
grave abyss
in general the best way to clear d2 overall is to do the secondary and clear out the farts for the spitter side.
to do d2, you got to suffer in one of the dark sides.
but real men do both. 
pick your poison. spitters and farts or mama's.
farts are easier if u do secondary.
enjoy.
kind arch
but what if it's silent and deadly
grave abyss
that certainly sounds like the farts.
nothing like opening the first mama door and she fart's all over you w/ silent and deadly farts which suddenly screech louder and louder.
royal lichen
d2 do blood doors, t-scan, secondary if u like, then do error door sequence, then go fog charger spitter and 6scout when u have 7/9, last codes from there.. .. and not everyone need to go into scout city, only 1 has to..
rest can go to extract and even if scouty mcscoutface goes off, get the last code, the waves never reach the others in time
regal thicket
if you got 1 scatter and cfoam, mama is faster and easier
mystic adder
No foam and pump is even better
pallid jackal
Knife only is better
regal thicket
just stealth kill mom
mortal granite
trust
crimson mural
r6 ext when
pallid jackal
r6 ext when
Who knows 2 to 3 months
mortal granite
r6 came out in 10 dec
either they put out a whole new rundown in 2 or 3 months
or 5 months if we go ext route
wet ravine
If they didn't extend this current rundown, it'll be a 3-4 months wait and a high chance that the next Rundown will immediately had an E Level upon release
tall igloo
Gtfo 2 
royal lichen
"after escaping the complex, now they want back in. this summer, gtfo 2: gtfi"
royal lichen
they got out and watched the first piece of news.. aaaww hell no -
candid pelican
Nah, they just want schaeffer back
tall igloo
Gtfo rundown 6000 🧑🚀
wet ravine
Imagine if they skipped Rundown 69
tall igloo
obtuse cedar
@atomic escarp I know this is late to the point but seeing people complain that r6C2 ext is too hard just makes me see they are either new players, or they just have skill issues. Especially when we had r4B2PE and r5B2PE that were way harder then the current C2 ext.
Also if you think going through 3 scouts and 20 sleeper is hell. You should have seen the start of r4E1. Tank error alarm 4 min. All the zones had 30 sleepers including a lot of hybrids, you had to do 3 S1 alarms two of which were long 2 min sustain scans with surge enemy spawn. All of this while carrying 2 power cells that were require since they were the way to shutdown the error alarm and progress to the later part of the level. This lasted for 15-20 minutes.
Oh and ammo was scarce to a point where if you didn't find ammo on you way, you would wipe guaranteed
You didn't have time to go around and loot
regal thicket
comparing an e tier to a c tier lol
obtuse cedar
That's not the point. This is to show that if he think the current thing is hell. What's he gonna think about actual difficulty
quasi citrus
there will always be people that complain about the difficulty. at least we don't have people complaining about how hard the A-tier levels are like last rundown. I think the devs really hit the spot with the difficulty of r6 imho.
obtuse cedar
It is skewered on the easy side
quasi citrus
what is, r6 or c2?
obtuse cedar
R6 as a whole
quasi citrus
yea, for a good reason.
quasi citrus
r5 in terms of difficulty really just killed new players experience.
and honestly some average players also.
regal thicket
a2pe be like
quasi citrus
true. but the bulkheads kinda threw alot of people off. r3 was not that bad imho besides kiting
candid pelican
R3 was a good rundown for new players imo
I played in R3 and I finished the entire rundown in like 3 weeks
Was new player in R3
obtuse cedar
R6 is also a good rundown for new players. It lets them learn the basics.
However for the people who already know the basic because they played previous rundown. This rundown is pretty boring since there isn't any level that pose a big challenge to them
obtuse cedar
So if new player complain this is too hard. Then they clearly have skill issue
candid pelican
I mean D tier is "challenging" but it's not like R5D1
obtuse cedar
Debatable
candid pelican
I say "challenging" because it actually required some skill from me (not D1 this rundown)
vernal rose
R5D1 wasn't challenging as its tedious, apart from that one alarm
candid pelican
C3 and below requried no effor
obtuse cedar
I find the d tier somewhat hard if i run with pubs that have no coordination.
regal thicket
lfg is always ahrd
candid pelican
R5D1 wasn't challenging as its tedious, apart from that one alarm
R5D1 main was easy. The Extreme part is challenging
Especially for a random solo
But being able to finish nearly every level within 3 attempts as a random lfg solo shows that it's a little too easy
(referring to r6)
obtuse cedar
The only level i only wiped when the rundown came out was D4 the surge alarm part. And the moment this was done the rest of the level had me in a state of autopilot since there was no more difficulty to it :(
regal thicket
damn i wish i'm that good at the game
obtuse cedar
It's more the team coordination between friends that make it so.
C3PE duo (no bots) is a blast when you are still learning the map
vernal rose
In my case, we only really wiped because we either weren't using our consumables well, or just blanked out and forgot to play the game
obtuse cedar
That's pretty much what i saw from a lot of my friends yeah
vernal rose
One single foam grenade thrown at that one staircase basically made the alarm for us
sage anvil
l
candid pelican
The surge is a little hard yeagh
It's one of the only surge alarms where they don't make it very easy
obtuse cedar
D4 only has the surge alarm at the start in term of difficulty. The T scan and alarm in fog can be render trivial if you know your basics AI pathing
candid pelican
D4 is hard when you first start because you don't know what to do and you have this kinda wacky error alarm
Once you know what you are doing
The surge is easy
obtuse cedar
That's the whole rundown right there
candid pelican
But i remember my first attempt, I wiped during the mom blood door because i didnt expect it
then i wiped on the surge
because i didnt expect it
So i finished d4 on my 3rd attempt
after i got past surge, ez pz
obtuse cedar
It's only hard when you are blind. Once you know what to do... Everything is easy
candid pelican
C3 is a great example lmao
"WHERE THE FUCK IS THE CELL, WE ARE GETTING INFECTED FUCK"
obtuse cedar
Meanwhile there is a terminal in there that you can list the cell and query them
candid pelican
I know
vernal rose
C3 is near perfect for a fun level, but then overload happened
candid pelican
but finding the zone can be hard
I remember it took me like 10 minutes to find the zone with the last cell mao
obtuse cedar
But you can be even better... I use the terminal during the overload scan to see what is ahead
candid pelican
But you can be even better... I use the terminal during the overload scan to see...
I did
obtuse cedar
People don't think about stuff like that. A lot of players refuse to touch terminals
candid pelican
ikr
obtuse cedar
It's legit the best way to see what is ahead in the level.
candid pelican
Once you learn how to properly use a terminal, it is great
But people don't want to learn it for some reason
it really isnt that hard tbh
vernal rose
People are used to have the levels done for them
candid pelican
candid pelican
Then they are like "why is this game so hard? wtf"
when they get a group with all noobs
grizzled ravine
QwQ mfw it's actually too hard
quasi citrus
So if new player complain this is too hard. Then they clearly have skill issue
I mean duh... they are new players?
d levels are quite challenging
regal thicket
carry me thanks
thick burrow
no
regal thicket
😔
obtuse cedar
I mean duh... they are new players?
Ok but why a lot of refuse to learn?
gloomy flame
they don't have to, if they don't find it fun or worth their time, that's their opinion
obtuse cedar
Then they better not come complain it is hard
gloomy flame
let those of us that enjoy it, enjoy it, don't force it on those who don't, y'know?
they can complain all they want
let them, they'll stop eventually
don't spend your time trying to correct people who don't care
it's better spent elsewhere
find the people who do care and work/hang out with them, then you'll get a better community of people to continue with
not saying you're not, but do that more than trying to argue with people who dislike the game
obtuse cedar
I want less voice complaining that's it too hard. Cause that give the wrong idea to the dev. The voices from the people who don't bother to learn the basics are not needed since they will leave the game
gloomy flame
the devs know what they're doing
but I understand your fear that they'll succumb to popular opinion
they've shown they're not like that though with the game they've created so far
regal thicket
they already did lul
errant vigil
except for CP
gloomy flame
with checkpoints?
yeah
but there is a lot more changes people want that the devs have said no to
obtuse cedar
And look at that. Some people already conplain that there is "not enough checkpoint"
grizzled ravine
At least from my memory, CPs by their status is kinda popular opinion just not implemented to perfection.
For the main population levels tend to be pretty long.
gloomy flame
yeah, so the devs thought it was a good idea, not just because a lot of new players said it should happen
errant vigil
CP makes them longer tho that's the funny part
gloomy flame
yeah, it does
because you repeat mistakes often from checkpoints with an LFG team that isn't ready to beat it
regal thicket
7 hour 30 mins of d2 ex with 10+ checkpoints
grizzled ravine
at 3 hours just quit.
gloomy flame
yup, when before with no checkpoints, you would take a little break and then try again with a clearer head
grizzled ravine
Maybe even 2
gloomy flame
but with checkpoints, people go on those 7-10 hour runs holding onto their checkpoint save
regal thicket
i love to see it
nocturne flax
R4 had good balance
its ok to be wrong
gloomy flame
yeah, it's funny, double edged sword situation
grizzled ravine
bring back R5 balance.
regal thicket
the definition of insanity
doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for something to change
obtuse cedar
its ok to be wrong
Idk. For new players it was ok if they were willing to learn. And for vets. There was some challening levels
nocturne flax
r4a1, had an extreme that was UPLINKS, r4a2 had a error alarm that spawn shit before the door open and trigger up to 2 scouts, a3 had a giant wave
grizzled ravine
wait I just realized...we dont have a thunderdome level 😔
nocturne flax
r3 had a good balance until A3
obtuse cedar
r4a1, had an extreme that was UPLINKS, r4a2 had a error alarm that spawn shit be...
You don't do optional when you are new
nocturne flax
Cuz fuck r3a3 all my homies hate r3a3
gloomy flame
rundown 001 had good balance with the overpowered machine gun, I miss that thing, but it's reasonable that it didn't stay
nocturne flax
You don't do optional when you are new
ah so now we counting optional then not the whole thing like you do
icic
regal thicket
don't you need to do optionals for Cs
obtuse cedar
ah so now we counting optional then not the whole thing like you do
I started in r4. I did main. Then when i got a bit better i tried the optionals. They were fine. I was still bad at that time but they were fine
regal thicket
still wish they renamed optionals because it ain't it
it's necessary for the gtfo drip
nocturne flax
I started in r4. I did main. Then when i got a bit better i tried the optionals....
you were counting the entire levels before on your previous comments tho you refer to PE's and everything
super odd!
obtuse cedar
Which comments?
grizzled ravine
true
nocturne flax
if you count just high only r6 its legit the best out of all rundowns
obtuse cedar
New players aren't suppose to go straight to PE though
regal thicket
people can have the mentality, if you're not doing the whole thing, you're not playing the game
nocturne flax
This rundown its more accessible to everyone
regal thicket
which a2pe was a horrible introduction to pe
wary olive
LFG D3 PE first try, experience required
nocturne flax
the only terminal level they reach first its c2
grizzled ravine
LFG D3 PE first try, experience required
😔 experience required 😔
nocturne flax
unlike before where it was a b levels and such
regal thicket
lf carry
wary olive
😩
nocturne flax
levels are shorter, checkpoints make it longer tho
nocturne flax
:^]
nocturne flax
r5 levels where too long, r4 levels where long and confusing since the introduction of bulkhead '
new people got it good this rundown
hella ammo
buff weapons, so no we dont even require hs anymore
grizzled ravine
R4A3's extreme showing people a dark zone with giants and a confusing layout. perfection
nocturne flax
sheeeezzzz
regal thicket
just have long range flashlight lmao
rough lance
R4 E1..... all i need to say
grizzled ravine
That was indeed the answer, but like for new players, they fucked
minor kernel
Just have eyes shakes head
nocturne flax
what we consider standar difficulty like c2 extreme its like super hard now
grizzled ravine
ptsd dog
minor kernel
Bruh playing 12 hours straight in c3 numbed me to the bone
grizzled ravine
I need another Dakka tirade about C2 Extreme
nocturne flax
Bruh playing 12 hours straight in c3 numbed me to the bone
pls say sike
minor kernel
No
grizzled ravine
Never forget Rapha's like 10 hour R5D1 Ex
errant vigil
what CP does to a mf
wary olive
Can we stop using CP as acronym for checkpoint lmao
candid dragon
use chp tbh
atomic escarp
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errant vigil
Who cares
nocturne flax
Can we stop using CP as acronym for checkpoint lmao
LMAO
errant vigil
You know what I'm talking about
minor kernel
Man I keep failing that level because I couldn't for the life of me find the checkpoint that why it took me so long
regal thicket
copepoints
grizzled ravine
copium intensifies
nocturne flax
Can we stop using CP as acronym for checkpoint lmao
thats a different CP you thinking bro damn
lmao
grizzled ravine
been on .tor too much I see
mossy marsh
kek
wary olive
I can't think of anything else that uses CP as it's acronym for that very reason
minor kernel
Also playing with bots in c3 hurts since I was doing it single player with just bots
regal thicket
why
grizzled ravine
I can't think of anything else that uses CP as it's acronym for that very reason
and for good reason
regal thicket
don't
nocturne flax
Also playing with bots in c3 hurts since I was doing it single player with just ...
.t lfg
regal thicket
c3 ain't it with bots
nocturne flax
.t lfg
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minor kernel
Spongebob I know I can go to the channel 🤣
mossy marsh
do then
nocturne flax
2 bots and 2 people are the way to go
errant vigil
C tier is now known as Child tier OMEGALUL
rough lance
1 person and 0 bots is the true way to go
nocturne flax
for single player
wary olive
How does Dakka think C2 ext. is harder than D3 PE though
minor kernel
I know
candid dragon
what is A tier then?
regal thicket
c tiers are harder than d tiers bro
grizzled ravine
YOU KNOW WHAT. C2 child's play indeed.
errant vigil
Autist tier
nocturne flax
what is A tier then?
assholes
minor kernel
No that's b tier
nocturne flax
Dick tier?
regal thicket
deez
rough lance
You just need to use the shotgun sentry and you are all set
grizzled ravine
NGL why is A1's extract harder than all the other story level extracts?
candid dragon
just bring the burst cannon
minor kernel
Really?
obtuse cedar
there is only 1 C tier mission this rundown. C3. change my mind... oh wait nvm D1 is also a C tier
minor kernel
Like first time playing gtfo I didn't have trouble with the extract for a1
candid dragon
i hope thats what they're taking so long on.
rough lance
I hope we have to fight like 3 krackens on E1
grizzled ravine
I can't wait for us to scavenge inside Squidward.
unreal terrace
c3 extract pretty nasty if youdidnt expect it
minor kernel
Now I agree with that one
candid dragon
c2 ,c3, d4 are probably the hardest extracts
unreal terrace
ah yeah
unreal terrace
c2 idk tho
candid dragon
d4 blind, not like "oh, save these doors and its ez clap btw i did this floor like 5 times"
unreal terrace
^
minor kernel
Also spongebob man that my answer to your question on why it took that long because I had only bots with me and actually somehow manage to complete it 😅
obtuse cedar
C2 main is one of the easiest.
this is a B tier level lol
candid dragon
calm down jerma
nocturne flax
Also spongebob man that my answer to your question on why it took that long beca...
Find people really, bots are not feature complete yet, your gonna be doing more 10 hour runs like this, thye lack some measure to deal with tanks and with moms they barely function
candid dragon
bots are only for temporary filler and masochists.
minor kernel
Don't worry spongebob I'm certianly not doing that again
regal thicket
fog is a relative
nocturne flax
I think i need to switch back my name
errant vigil
NO
regal thicket
spongeboob man
errant vigil
you are square man
minor kernel
Spongebob square pants
minor kernel
Yes
nocturne flax
🥶
errant vigil
it ties to the old name
minor kernel
I probably should change my profile to a crab tbh
nocturne flax
I had more name swithching this rundown that the CIA changes names
candid dragon
kinky
mossy marsh
sussy
wary olive
D1 easy compared to C2 extreme right????
atomic escarp
yes
very easy
the kraken is a big scary motherfucker but its easy enough to kill it
wary olive
Can't clear the alarm?
turbid egret
no just lazy LOL
candid pelican
Ngl, that god damn alarm is basically a surge alarm
turbid egret
so any1 got list?
candid pelican
nope
wary olive
Ngl, that god damn alarm is basically a surge alarm
The class IV flyer alarm?
candid pelican
just finish it then checkpoint
candid pelican
The class IV flyer alarm?
Yes
turbid egret
no this is more fun
wary olive
It's not that bad now
candid pelican
They nerfed it?
turbid egret
its a fun guessing game
wary olive
They nerfed, then rebuffed it
candid pelican
How did they rebuff it
wary olive
More spawns, after the first nerf it was laughably easy
wary olive
Like D3 class IV flyer alarm level
sly badger
k
fierce laurel
I miss 2 flyers per wave
vital dawn
the kraken is a big scary motherfucker but its easy enough to kill it
How did you kill it quickly
Is it damage overtime or combined damage at a fast rate
real moss
How did you kill it quickly
burst 5 weak points and he dies. they each take 10 sniper shots, so the more snipes the faster it goes.
atomic escarp
we continually mag dumped and there was more than enough ammo to keep that up til it died
vital dawn
Alright thanks guys
Must've messed up lol
My friend would love to know how fast you can kill it with the sawed off shotgun and scattergun xD
real moss
My friend would love to know how fast you can kill it with the sawed off shotgun...
it will take very long, cause it is not close.
vital dawn
Lol it was a silly question for him
obtuse cedar
My friend would love to know how fast you can kill it with the sawed off shotgun...
if you want to do that, if you get top right bubble, you basically just lost
vital dawn
Yea it was just a joke one lol he likes to use two of the same weapons
obtuse cedar
people did it sawed off with shotgun
and it was the same thing, if they got top right, it was a loss
vital dawn
So are c2 c3 d2 d3 and d4 way easier?
wary olive
Easier than?
vital dawn
The primary ones like c1 and d1
wary olive
No they're more difficult
They're all probably more difficult than D1
C2 easier if you just do the main objective
vital dawn
Alright thanks
wary olive
A common opinion is that C2 extreme is the first mission that is "difficult" to some extent
sly badger
Yeah
Doing only main is piss easy, but doing the extreme is pretty rough, since you can't take your time
real moss
So are c2 c3 d2 d3 and d4 way easier?
all much harder
regal thicket
you still can, because they nerfed the hybrid waves, one guy can hammer all 3 hybrids by himself or the usual 1 hybrid per person while 1 guy is pushing
4 hybrids per wave was perfect
candid dragon
D3 and 4 would like to introduce themselves
vale zephyr
They may be harder, but d2 is just so annoying
candid dragon
D2 ez
D2 is only annoying because its another glorified fetch quest with no real difficulty
candid dragon
Quickly.
atomic escarp
its more just the layout of the place
its a confusing clusterfuck of bullshit, everywhere, and its so easy to get turned around in
candid dragon
Most of the A to b points are almost straight lines
Except for that one stairway near the tank zone
atomic escarp
yeah
candid dragon
Always get lost forca second there
atomic escarp
whats the extreme objective?
wary olive
Get 3 cells into generators
atomic escarp
hm
ok
when combined with overload, while doing main....
that will be, a problem
candid dragon
1 cell is in the gen room
regal thicket
ovl is just 14 or 21 blobs to shoot bro
candid dragon
So its more like 2 cells
atomic escarp
oh yeah, yeah, of course
coarse echo
deron is such a cuck lmao
regal thicket
ok and?
candid dragon
Just bring 2 scatters and watch him fade into the ether?
atomic escarp
you are actually so lacking in brain cells that its purposeless to talk to you
solemn wigeon
Unfortunately the undertale pacifist strat won't work
candid dragon
R4e1 would like to go on a date with you
solemn wigeon
R4E1 
candid dragon
Map height
solemn wigeon
High enough that you cant ignore it
solemn wigeon
Speed
candid dragon
Quickly.
solemn wigeon
Uh
candid dragon
30 minutes.?
solemn wigeon
My squad did it in 25m
solemn wigeon
Oh
candid dragon
36 maybe?
atomic escarp
jfcccccc
candid dragon
You get a whopping 6 free minutes
solemn wigeon
- you are done with 80% of the level by the time fog becomes a nuisance
atomic escarp
gonna have to tell my guys that we basically have to complete it the second extraction starts
and hard rush extreme and overload
regal thicket
literally just shoot 7 times with sniper
candid dragon
Both tanks ideally should be dead in under 20 sec
solemn wigeon
20 second tank kills lmao
regal thicket
man is so defensive when c3 is as simple as point and click and hold m1 and hold e
candid dragon
Im being generous
solemn wigeon
You can leave a tank alive for as long as you want
atomic escarp
man is so defensive when c3 is as simple as point and click and hold m1 and hold...
its not that easy
atomic escarp
of course its simple to boil something down to its most basic
but its not the case
in a vacuum, sure
just kill the tank, bro
but its not
solemn wigeon
Deron did anyone ever tell you that you are garbage at the game btw
candid dragon
Literally just sprint in and shoot the tank
There is no cfoam or door horseplay
If the party is busy smoking meth with a shooter somewhere, most of this game aint gonna work
regal thicket
i am always garbage at the game
signal fox
just kill the tank, bro
If you want super easy tank killing then you bring 2 snipers, scattergun against tank is noob bait and will get you killed 90% of the time. Each sniper sits on opposite sides of the tank and then you just shoot tumors. Tank aggros on the last person that shot him so you can just ping-pong him between the 2 snipers
Don’t have other people shoot tank unless they have a shotty or hel gun, the damage they do will be insignificant and will fuck with the tank aggro for the snipers
Tank dies in 20 seconds if you are doing it slowly
Standing on elevation makes it easier
regal thicket
if tanks are fucking with you then either people aren't doing their job or your location is bad or both
vernal rose
If you want super easy tank killing then you bring 2 snipers, scattergun against...
Just spam sawed off
signal fox
:(
floral tree
the giants are called tanks?
Mr.Meatball. D1 so called miniboss.
kind arch
oooh
that tank
that's actually pretty good
it makes the giants look like minions
wait I just realize it's hp is 1k
similar to the mother
just bring high damage guns and you're fine
The mother doesn't do damage but gives birth to babies so melee is fine
but the tank isn't for melee I predict
floral tree
It will whoop your ass.
floral tree
- triple tongue.
signal fox
Meleeing tank is a learned art form
kind arch
That means they could take 3 of us
floral tree
Tell that to pre-update bots.
kind arch
I just realize I fought the tank
the first time I went in D1
I thought it was just a special giant
I have no idea how I fucking survive
vale zephyr
My first time doing D1, the tank got stuck on a wall somehow
kind arch
haha
vale zephyr
it wouldnt move even if we shot it
kind arch
It's not even a threat at that point
floral tree
I know I didn't. He actually gave me a hard time such that I had to join this Discord and ask for advice. Otherwise, I wouldn't have the need to.
floral tree
I play solo with bots.
kind arch
I even thought he was just a special giant
I only joined the discord cause I'm bored
lonely with these bots
and matchmaking takes forever
but I think I'm right do
tank is just a special giant
atomic escarp
wouldnt say failed
and its not a boss
the kraken is the first true boss type enemy
big mother/tank are mini bosses
floral tree
The true boss is that one player who is running around with BURST CANNON in R6.
nocturne flax
Internalenable: true
atomic escarp
I want
burst cannon
except each shot does the same dmg as a scattergun shot
PER round
floral tree
Sure and then they just give you 10 max ammo.
floral tree
You still have to pop his zit 7 times.
signal fox
Internalenable: true
Banned
kind arch
how did it go buddy?
kind arch
did you win?
kind arch
did you have fun?
hmm
I mean no need to go tough on yourself
The game is hard as it is
grave abyss
stealthed the mother room.
for w/e reason it gave me no mothers the first mother side.
and when i checked the southern room, it was full of scouts and still no mothers lmao
big cha'ching. I was too afraid to check the far back room at that point.
willing to bet it had 11 of them in there.
I'm trying to figure out how people co C3 PE solo.
they must be certified gamers.
floral tree
These are not people. They are pizzas.
regal thicket
<@&408548765599793173>
hexed vapor
and when i checked the southern room, it was full of scouts and still no mothers...
They're in there somewhere, no RNG to their spawning.
kind verge
I sense the presence of Han in here.
I wonder why?
fallow delta
I'm trying to figure out how people co C3 PE solo.
Depends if you are looking at a cheesed run or normal run
fallow delta
If you see a lot of giants and the guy not killing them, yes
grave abyss
wym the guy not killing them?
fallow delta
As it sounds
grave abyss
i was watching yt vids of people doing it.
oh, the giants don't hurt them or something?
fallow delta
Spawncapping the enemies spawn with giants, which are extremely easy to kite
solemn wigeon
If you cap out the spawns with giants you can trivialise everything
solemn wigeon
Sure they hit like trucks but they can be easily dodged
grave abyss
oh no wonder.
fallow delta
It is a way to beat most levels, but yea, cheese 
solemn wigeon
Its such a boring strategy
grave abyss
and they move slower than tanks/little ones/etc
solemn wigeon
Why not cap out tanks smh
fallow delta
Why not cap out tanks smh
Any clue how many points they count as?
grave abyss
now I see how they're doing it in those vids...
solemn wigeon
Idk and idc, it would just be funny
grave abyss
I tried and got tank'd in the face right when i turned a corner to go open a door lmao.
fallow delta
Idk and idc, it would just be funny
True, 10 tanks chasing you
grave abyss
literally couldn't get behind him.
fallow delta
I tried and got tank'd in the face right when i turned a corner to go open a doo...
I'm positive some have managed to do it without cheesing, some people are quite cracked
solemn wigeon
Getting behind a tank solo is a challenge
fallow delta
Probably somewhere on youtube
fallow delta
This spawncap thing i told you about is used a lot for soloes
During scans as well sometimes
mortal granite
one of the thing that make me quit solo
fallow delta
True, i don't enjoy it
mortal granite
the bad overwhelmed the good
fallow delta
Idk if i can even do that with a full team 
I have done it, by not opening the doors
grave abyss
It was my first time trying d2 secondary too lmao
fallow delta
I don't remember if you MUST open the side doors or not
grave abyss
I saw the amount of chargers and was like... "ok.. I see how it is."
you do, to get codes I think
kinda like d3
fallow delta
Imma wait for someone to confirm this, i am always the guy shooting
grave abyss
all I know is those charger waves blew my mind. Confused how this vid I watched of someone doing D2 solo.
mortal granite
T scan are a tough one for solo
plus, that's a medium - huge size room
plus plus, charger
grave abyss
i gotta watch the vid again.
fallow delta
People soloed D2 secondary?
grave abyss
because when I tried doing secondary like them, it made my head explode.
regal thicket
T scan is easy on solo tho
just hel gun lole
it's even better on solo because they actually line up
grave abyss
I assume you run to get them lined up and hel gun al of them?
regal thicket
instead of scattering due to aggro
grave abyss
that'd make sense since the guy ran hel pistol and sniper.
fallow delta
I don't remember if you MUST open the side doors or not
What about this?
Sniper got no pen @grave abyss
grave abyss
hel pistol does
grave abyss
all i know is in the vid, he solo'd both right sides.
didn't do the run security left.
did mine deployer
mossy marsh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55kP1_1dsHU&ab_channel=DarkEmperor
wtf lol
brittle light
someone just dead cold used the GTFO vc's with discord's [Watch Together] Feature
How even 
tall igloo
Youtube
brittle light
Sounds like screen share with extra steps
basically, yes
but it also apparently is supposed to have Poker for up to 7/8 players and chess tournaments for up to 100?
Idk man
it's weird but I had a good laugh from seeing a random rocket on this server (that's the icon for those "activities", as discord calls them)
tried it and no clue how to invoke them but I guess one of em knew 
maybe it's on Canary atm?
fierce laurel
wah
tall igloo
I wanna shank the boss in d1 when can i do that
fierce laurel
when you fight the boss
tall igloo
Yes but how can i stab
frail zinc
who needs damage when you got status
tall igloo
grizzled ravine
HP>0 always means you win.
fierce laurel
throw your spear like a harpoon
grizzled ravine
New Main Weapon: The Javelin
HOLD MB1 to do distance, and click MB1 to reel it back.
It does charge damage on the toss, and 1/2 damage on the return.
faint vapor
Does anyone know why we got a new mask or was it just random
vague mauve
but the mask is werid
fierce laurel
chinese new year mask
atomic escarp
C3 PE complete
ornate stream
Same
sly badger
Congrats
torn sundial
Yall got tips for D4?
thick burrow
Yall got tips for D4?
The entirety of it or a specific section?
torn sundial
The entirety of it or a specific section?
Entirety. Friend and I are gonna hop on it and try later tonight
thick burrow
Just hop into the level and see for yourself, it’ll be hard to grasp what most people will explain without getting confused
If you’re looking for an ideal setup:
Mines, Auto + Burst and a biotracker/cfoam
torn sundial
Bet
sly badger
Man, trying to do D4 is so draining
It's just room after room of the worst things ever, most having scouts
Especially going through the Charger rooms + T-Scan, knowing infection fog and spitters are coming afterwards
thick burrow
Especially going through the Charger rooms + T-Scan, knowing infection fog and s...
It's not as bad as people make it to be
you can pull both rooms with the spitters in them fall back and mine a door
thick burrow
It's 3 minutes of spitters 
sly badger
That isn't even the worst part
Just the level as a whole is just tiring
And I haven't even gotten to the error alarm at the end
thick burrow
People make the mistake of killing the error alarm which pains me
You don't want them to spawn in front of you and essentially killing your run
sly badger
Yeah that just sounds painful
I wouldn't even consider D4 to be harder than D3 or C3 PE, it's just super long and the chances of dying make it so painful, even with the knowledge of there being a checkpoint after the first data cube
thick burrow
I do agree that the level is rather punishing when messing up
not to the degree of R5D1 extreme, but still a fair bit if you don't know how to recover from it
sly badger
You can have everything you need to get through the level, but if you trigger a scout in the charger room, or a scout in the infection zone and start a chain reaction, it is so hard to bring it back
thick burrow
Just make sure you don't lose the doors in the charger zone
errant vigil
You have checkpoints it don’t matter 
granite owl
Is it just me or are D tiers in general slightly more lenient witn resources than before
Had a D3 run and ammo was just everywhere
signal fox
Welcome to rundown 6
If you somehow run out of ammo on anything that isn’t C2 ex then you’re doing something severely wrong
hexed vapor
D2 can be pretty tight, actually, but that's about it.
Now that you can actually melee charger scouts it might be much more inexpensive, though.
obtuse cedar
D2 has too much meds
it's actually ridiculous how much meds are in D2. Ammo is only tight if you mess up a lot
hexed vapor
Well, now that I think about it this was mainly an issue in PuGs.
I don't think we really ran out of much when my static was running it.
D3 was much harder to clear the first time.
obtuse cedar
C2 secondary is the only map where ammo can become short... but that depends on one factor... is your offensive team too slow AND/OR are you just bad at aiming on defense
solemn wigeon
Even if you are fast you will run out of ammo fast
Its quite a distance you need to traverse
obtuse cedar
if you have c-foam you can always delay
and if your sniper dude runs out dry completely... just have him push to extract with cargo once blood door is pulled. let the other 3 deal with the hybrids
it is a somewhat fast extract (solo)
if everyone is out of ammo but blood door is dealt with, just leave 2 guys behind and play peek-a-boo with the hybrids
solemn wigeon
The real hard part of ex is getting bamboozled and flanked by the blood doorr
Hybrids behind you, hybrids in front of you, surrounded by fog
obtuse cedar
hybrids are quite dumb though. you got loads of pillar to hide from their shots
you just need to peek once in a while to make them shoot
🤷
1 person push with cargo, 3 stay behind and just waste the time of hybrids. AI being dumb will target the group of 3 leaving that solo dude free to extract without being annoyed
solemn wigeon
What enemy in this game isnt dumb in that case
If you actively abuse their attack conditions
obtuse cedar
well it's more like hybrids and shooters are dumber cause they won't rush you down if they can see you. so you just have to peek once in a while and you basically just made them irrelevant
solemn wigeon
Shooters will never rush you regardless. If anything they run away
obtuse cedar
they rush at you if you are out of sight and far enough away
solemn wigeon
And then run away when they see you
obtuse cedar
the moment they see you again is the moment they go back to retreat mode
solemn wigeon
Honestly the hardest enemy in the game
obtuse cedar
pretty similar to mom AI really 🤣
obtuse cedar
just grab your hammer and wack them good
regal thicket
the amount of meds is for ex meatball alarm because why shoot when you can circle kite :^)
struggling with d4 t scan means someone's not using hel gun right
bold widget
d3 meta is kniving everything in first respawn room
obtuse cedar
struggling with d4 t scan means someone's not using hel gun right
but when you don't bring hel gun. what do you blame then 😛
regal thicket
skill deficiency
fierce laurel
nice pfp soviet
why the greenscreen one though
she has one with the normal background
regal thicket
temporary
granite owl
C2 secondary is the only map where ammo can become short... but that depends on ...
We circumvented this problem in my team where we shot one and melee killed the other 2
Gave the stealth team like 2 years to clear the way
hexed vapor
Tips for C3 Main solo?
Resource RNG seems like a pain to play around.
Also, how bad is the ramping?
or do the waves not ramp?
I noticed I was getting 6 titan strikers near 20 minutes.
fierce laurel
are you planning to cheese it or not cheese it
hexed vapor
Not cheese, but what would be cheese, titan kiting?
grave abyss
kill all tiny sleepers and hybrids.
keep the giants and just kite them.
over time you'll only have the giants chasing you.
can't get killed doing PE if you can outrun the giants chasing you.
regal thicket
pe bad
signal fox
Imagine creating an anti kite system only for it to fail because the people designing it fundamentally do not understand how kiting works
couldn't be these devs smh
pallid jackal
Wait kiting is still possible
hexed vapor
Yes, although it's a lot more situational now.
If you have ammo, it's also very hard to lose fights.
Stamina doesn't prevent you from evading enemies for short periods to reload and reposition much at all.
frail zinc
running through the complex with the endurance of a 90 year old man
nocturne flax
You guys are poopy heads
its anti-kiting measures not anti-kiting system, they wanted to discourage kiting atleast its groups
not eliminate the thing itself
vernal rose
Soft collision good, samtina bad
nocturne flax
stamina keeps you in the same room as the sleepers :], soft collision allows the sleepers to actually hit you some of the time
frail zinc
i never have problems with stamina while fighting
nocturne flax
its a blend to give sleepers a chance to fight
and be th eoverwhelming force they have to be
frail zinc
its the downtime where stamina is fucking 
nocturne flax
rather than try to catch up to some crackhead running 18 zones away or in circles
nocturne flax
i never have problems with stamina while fighting
well duh, its for the dumbasses who had to kite for class 3 of all the EA period
nocturne flax
you will never notice it during fights where your gonna use your gun
nocturne flax
when rerouting still exists
thats for solo
fathom vigil
I saw a solo do D3 and was kiting tonnes, don’t think the video is that old. It appears I need to learn how the stamina works in this game (still fairly new, R6 is my first and I’ve not finished it yet)
frail zinc
d3 gets kited because of shadows and the layout allows for manipulating the ai
regal thicket
reroute moment
fathom vigil
Aye, he never seemed to have issues with stamina, but reading up it sounds like he should, wonder how he did it.
nocturne flax
shadows are slower
regal thicket
slide to the left
fathom vigil
reroute moment
This i just learnt about yesterday. Keeping 1 door open etc. New technique to me
regal thicket
slide to the right
fathom vigil
shadows are slower
Ahhhhh
nocturne flax
This i just learnt about yesterday. Keeping 1 door open etc. New technique to me
Good for setting up for alarms
really nice
Some tiles if you dont reroute its crazy
some dig site and datacenter
regal thicket
datacenter moment
fathom vigil
Yeah, my instinct is to shut everything. Appears that’s not always the best idea
regal thicket
i love kiting 8 laps in d4
nocturne flax
Yeah, my instinct is to shut everything. Appears that’s not always the best idea
i mean you can permafoam, probably cheaper than to use sentries to reroute and other stuff
on tool
fathom vigil
Need these more advanced techniques. I’ve made it to and completed D2M, need to do secondary. Then got C3, D3 and D4 to do. Had a couple goes at the 3s
nocturne flax
i love kiting 8 laps in d4
damn that team must be really bad
nocturne flax
Even then people missing the point, the idea of the measures its to prevent the entire group of people just overrelying on the cheese
Who gives a shit about what you do in a solo
when you have one guy running around on circles or some dude just long kiting everytime he wants thats where it hurts the games health
regal thicket
lfg be like
nocturne flax
specially when it doesnt promote teamplay at all
nocturne flax
add more team scans as band aid fix
It helps
R5 i didnt see a single dumbass run for a circle kite
so the band aid fix works :]
M alarms are the best thing in the game
change my mind
||you cant||
regal thicket
r5d2 class 9 my beloved
wary olive
Aye, he never seemed to have issues with stamina, but reading up it sounds like ...
bait attack animations as you walk around corners to regain stamina
mystic adder
Maybe there just needs to be more ways to take aggro away from team mates.
solemn wigeon
r5d2 class 9 my beloved
Supposed M alarm but in reality its just an S alarm with extra steps
regal thicket
yo the r5d1 burst cannon alarm
queen field
you mean big chungus alarm ?
solemn wigeon
Bring back BC naming convention
mortal granite
anti-kiting measure =/= anti-kiting altogether
signal fox
When they said they are adding anti kite to help fix gameplay that is ”time consuming or annoying” I expected fundamental changes to how kiting works
Instead they made kiting more time consuming and annoying
Literally nothing changed other than the average braid dead lfgs can’t just solo carry an alarm because they feel like it
queen field
^
C3 is just purely annoying because of that
Feels like we're playing some dudes after they spent 3h eating at Mcdonalds
signal fox
The stamina system is garbage because it didn’t fix the issue and just made it more annoying to do
Both sides of the issue got worse
It is actually shameful that it made it through testing in the state it’s in
queen field
Not to mention you can easily lower the burden of stamina by crouch sprinting
imo they should simply make enemies move better
Such that they recognize a kiting pattern
& move accordingly to prevent it
regal thicket
enemies flanking soon™️
nocturne flax
Literally nothing changed other than the average braid dead lfgs can’t just solo...
Thats the whole point
it didnt promot teamplay at all
before you would bring three little dumbasses who not know any better and fucking tell them just to do scans you just fuck off to run in a circle
signal fox
You can still do that tbh
nocturne flax
or if you where atleast the nice one you would play the game normally and when you know they go down you would go long kite over and over again
signal fox
You can definitely still do that
nocturne flax
You can still do that tbh
You really cannot unless you do some heavy shit
long kiting yes in some maps
but you actually have to redirect shit, close doors for revives
before you could just sprint in wichever direction you wanted and just fucking run
Should stamina be adjusted a little bit so it allows a little bit more freedom yes
but its not shit
signal fox
Stamina itself isn’t shit. This version of stamina is
nocturne flax
and it does what it advertises, it discourages that type of behaviour and actually kinda forces people to actually play the game
yeah the rundown its easy but its not like this is the last rundown, they will slowly raise the bar again ||soon i hope||
thats where stamina would actually be more noticeable
signal fox
I’d rather them just fix the problem ahead of time instead of waiting until it gets worse to do anything
nocturne flax
I’d rather them just fix the problem ahead of time instead of waiting until it g...
You talking like stamina working as intended its a bad thing
its suppose to be noticeable and you should be managing it
its a game mechanic you need to learn
signal fox
I know
The management part is asinine
You don’t sprint for 7 seconds and you are max stam
Go run again for another 60 seconds
Shoving doesn’t reset the stamina timer so when the one random dude that is always ahead of everyone gets to you, you can just shove him
And then keep running
Anyone that wants to kite will still kite
nocturne flax
You don’t sprint for 7 seconds and you are max stam
its like 50 m, most rooms are not even that big unless your in floodways or really big levels
nocturne flax
the amount of space you can get if you just run rather than just jumping and shit its crazy when it comes to fighting
signal fox
Larger rooms mean bigger area to train
More stuff to climb/jump off to get time to reset stam
nocturne flax
Larger rooms mean bigger area to train
if your solo yes
signal fox
It is 7 seconds if you are at 0%
nocturne flax
if your in teamplay it doesnt matter
nocturne flax
Easier kites
kiting was always easy my man
i dont understand your argument
its to discourage kiting not to outright patch it
yes you can still do it but you really have to go out of your way
nocturne flax
kiting its not a fundamental part of the game
it never was, it never will
they made it more time consuming to discourage it
having a get out of jail free card and just having spawn cap up your but for like 10 min for a revive its not gtfo
signal fox
You are misunderstanding. Kiting shouldn’t exist. When I said I expect changes it was in response to alpha’s remark
Either way, it fails on both fronts
Kiting still exists, and remains nearly unchanged
nocturne flax
I havent seen a single pub nor twitch stream since patch in wich people go and kite like during EA
it may have not change kiting for you i would assume but it did what its suppose to do and change people behavior when approaching the game
signal fox
There is also an influx of new players steaming that probably have never heard of kiting in this game
signal fox
Anyone that wants to kite will still do it. That’s the problem
nocturne flax
brother it really isnt
signal fox
I’d rather them just fix the system before we hit a rundown where it gets abused again
nocturne flax
you have smalls when you kite you have to tryhard that shit
why you think solo's cap giants
they will catch up to you
mortal granite
you're talking in a perspective of a long time player + have kite before
The anti-kiting measure did the exact thing that it should be which is discourage people from kiting
sure you can still kite but what's the point?
fallow delta
Marathons to solo, for who likes that
mortal granite
solo is one of the thing that, if you delete all of your kiting out of the video, it would be more interesting to watch
putting chapter in youtube video for alternative
fallow delta
Not sure if some levels would be doable without kiting
sharp merlin
Only reason to kite it to clutch 3 man downs and stuff
vernal rose
Consider, getting downed
queen field
sure you can still kite but what's the point?
You can still find idiots thinking speedruns are the normal way to play the game
Even in R6
Speedruns which rely, for some of them, on kiting
sharp merlin
That one D2 noob lobby that wanted to spawn cap giants for the charger error
wary olive
lmaooo
queen field
"Believe me i did the level several times [without mentioning they manage to pass the level once every 15 tries] ik the strat"
I've met someone like that on D4
Going full "wait why's this [literally anything normal] happening ?"
mortal granite
Speedruns which rely, for some of them, on kiting
well, what's the point tho when it waste more time to do so
vernal rose
Mfw person tells the team "Giant strikers have more health than giant shooters"
queen field
Ah yes
vernal rose
Ah yes, vertical mine believer
mortal granite
they both have same hp - Sniper user
mortal granite
Ah yes, vertical mine believer
don't disrespect my cult
i pulled that shit from R3 till now
sharp merlin
Yeah what speedruns rely on kiting tho
thick burrow
NONE
sharp merlin
yes