gtfo-spoiler-chat

[hexed vapor]

Good level, R4C3

[fallow delta]

Pick up a data cube and you switch members with another team and go into a different mess

Meanwhile someone turns into a giant striker and has to 1v1 a dad

[atomic jacinth]

any tips for C1, me and my friend are losing it a bit during the reset_security_protocol section

[mortal granite]

if you guys want to feel safe

hop out of the moving scan and clear the wave

repeat until done

using scan speed booster also make that scan super easy as well

[fallow delta]

At which % do you usually die? @atomic jacinth

Cause if you got around 90%, that's the stairs you should cfoam

Also, leave sentries at the door all the way up to thin the horde

Feel free to cfoam the middle stairs if you want an easier time till that 90% part

Lastly get good guns to deal with hordes. Hel gun works amazing there

Heavy AR is top tier for horde clearing in a group too

[floral tree]

Burst sentries killzone. It's easy, it's clean, and it last long enough that you will only have to fight the last 80-90% or so.

[queen field]

^

[sharp merlin]

Cfoam mine the door outside

• all your remaning mines on their pathing

and hold like 2. cfoam nades for the chokepoints when it gets difficult on the scan

from the giant room before the 5 scouts

[atomic escarp]

i know im asking for a lot but could someone give me a short "guide" for what to do in c2?

[fierce laurel]

get cell

bring cell to that one room in the middle

put first cell in the room covered in fog down the stairs

I forgot the rest

do a few alarms

second one goes near the bulkhead

third one is behind door with mother

kill the mother go through

last gen next to blood door

open the blood door

extract

oh yeah find the turbine too

[mossy marsh]

• Only use sentries for first alarm
• Enter the room of the alarm door and cfoam + mine outside of the door in the left side
• Clear everything that is in the zone
• Go to the big security door and leave 2 cells there
• Carry the 3rd cell to the right side, mine the blood door
• Kill remaining enemies
• When placing first cell try to rush back as fast as possible without getting infected
• go through the large door and mine a cfoam it
• do scan alarm
• reset vent system
• continue until you reach second generator
• Setting up for V class alarm before placing 2nd cell (that includes clearing 2 rooms away and if possible permafoam while doing the alarm)
• After the alarm, reset the vent system as fast as possible, then get to the zone with the disinfection station
• Choose a path

>>>In case of secondary<<<
- Preload main up to 80%, then completely load secondary
- Loot the room and prepare for the alarm
- Place sentries on the left path
- When doing the scan, everyone has to stay as close to the left part of the scan so that enemies only go through the left side
- After scan, have 1-2 people go for the bulk key while other 2-3 take care of the hybrids in the S alarm room (don't go outside or they might spawn where the key is)
- After getting the key carry the cargo and go to bulkhead control panel

• Load the main objective
• Get to the mom room and cfoam it with the nades you can found in the disinfect room
  then continue with the cell and the turbine (unless you have some repellers left) [and the cargo if you are doing secondary]
• Continue to the third generator while taking down the scouts with a sniper or bonk (and foam+mine the back doors if secondary is active)
  find the generator and place the 3rd cell
• Mine the blood door
• G T F O
  SantonianWhatElse

in general try to avoid getting a lot of infection

also when doing checkpoint scans don't hold any objective items

aka cells and turbines

[atomic escarp]

@mossy marshthank you so much

[grizzled ravine]

OH MY GOD

Kat coming with in-depth walkthrough

[atomic escarp]

what happens if i do

[mossy marsh]

Up your C2 grindset 💪

[fallow delta]

add secondary to what Kat said and ye you're set

Secondary is another full explanation on its own

[atomic escarp]

i dont understand

what happens if you hold a cell on a checkpoint door

[fallow delta]

if you want to take my advice after like 15hrs of C2

that checkpoint is only an illusion

act like it's not there

[mossy marsh]

if you reload from checkpoint you can get a bug that makes you unable to drop it

[fallow delta]

i tried almost everything and get bugged every single time

[mossy marsh]

has at least happened to me once with the turbine

[hexed vapor]

I've only had that happen once, and it was D3 where the game thought I was holding a cell when I definitely wasn't.

We won that somehow, had to get other people to babysit me to pick up keys and shit.

[atomic escarp]

<@&408548765599793173>

all channels

[timid sapphire]

C1 is an absolute nightmare

im still struggling to get through c2

managed to get halfway through d4 before i managed to get past part of c2

[candid dragon]

the hard part of d4 is at the end.

the rest of it is just not a big deal

[pallid jackal]

Eh C1 is alright but D1

We don't talk about D1

That Warden door scan is absolutely stuiped dude

[tiny sorrel]

In C1 is the second cube in the 5 scout bitch room?

[solemn wigeon]

Its behind the scout room

[tiny sorrel]

fml.

[light lagoon]

Tbh the Class VI Ain't that bad since the scans are always in the same spots so it isn't going to screw you over with awful positioning. They are for the most part full-teams though so if someone gets dropped you're gonna have a bad day.

[paper harness]

have you seen pubs try to do the surge scan

[heavy wave]

Lol surge scan were fun in R2E1 with pubs

[paper harness]

most of them are so pacifist that you literally need to force them to shoot a gun

[heavy wave]

you would wipe at first door everytime

[candid dragon]

ive done the surge scan poorly. its not too bad.

its just pubs literally cant shoot

[paper harness]

I think they're all conscientious objectors to using firearms ingame

[royal lichen]

d4 for dummies: bring and -use cfoam. helps.

[wheat ruin]

It’s good practice for killing scouts

[frail elbow]

or for cheesing with the sniper room trick B)

[junior shadow]

how to join

[pallid jackal]

?

[regal thicket]

the final surge error isn't even that hard

just perma foam lole

beaten d4 with 2 players that only had 10 hours and 1 bot

[fallow delta]

And yourself having like 1.6k

Evendoh i still find that impressive

These 2 must have been good listeners

[regal thicket]

shoot foam, door sealed

they should remove that door so people actually need gun skills and sentry placement to win

[fallow delta]

I am not sure which door you mean as the furthest i've got is like 2 cubes anyways

But i can guess how that'd work

[regal thicket]

the big door in first cell zone

[fallow delta]

Oh gotcha

[signal fox]

Pubs are to worried about not wasting ammo to just spray bullets

Just spray into a hoard

It’s a surge

You’re gonna hit something

[fallow delta]

I admit i do that

[regal thicket]

you could honestly burn the 12 to 14 uses worth of ammo in spawn, blood door and cell zone and still be able to win

not shooting is the same as wasting ammo

[dreamy bramble]

or you could just not shoot the whole run

can't run out of ammo if you don't use it

[regal thicket]

knife only

[calm coral]

one note: the hybrid spawns appear to be a fixed spawn. at least for me, we always had them spawn at the class V alarm door. we’ll have two people getting the cargo and bulkhead, and two snipers standing near bulk dc to snipe the hybrids as they spawn

[dreamy bramble]

hybrids are not fixed but they will always attempt to spawn behind players

i.e. closer to your original spawn location

which during that time will always be at that door

[plush basin]

They can spawn between the people holding and pushing too, which I guess is fine because its still "behind" the front group

[dreamy bramble]

yep

[fallow delta]

@calm coral yea not fixed, but if you do it as you should, they will always come from that 1 door

Once i had to get bulkhead with hybrids on me

As the other duo was at the mother door and the room where you do the scan counts as 2 away so they can spawn there

[dusk seal]

does fog turbine not work when carried by bots?

[brittle light]

it shouldw ork

seen videos of bots carrying it around, following the player to keep em in the circle

sometimes they do weird shit and you have to make sure to stay in the circle for a few seconds but it should work

[dusk seal]

I guess mine was just bugged

but good thing they're sharpshooters

[atomic escarp]

thats true

they're literally a walking pre nerf burst sentry

[dusk seal]

I'm bad at fps and first time playing GTFO first level they carried me

[atomic escarp]

true

i started playing in r5

i miss that rundown

[calm coral]

I miss R4

especially R4C1 and both D levels

they were SO good

B3 was also fun

[queen field]

Me & the boyz on our way to restart a generator that's going to kill us

[pulsar zodiac]

I dont miss R4C1 its very meh to me

[robust marsh]

R4C1 is weird

very very weird

[queen field]

le funny uplink

[tall igloo]

Bio in d1 works

Ping Kraken boom easy win

[sharp merlin]

R4B3 was fun.. sure..

Class II alarm in extreme omegalul

[tall igloo]

How are y'all playing the previous rundowns

[queen field]

We do engage in some tomfoolery

We don't

[tall igloo]

Rember

[mossy marsh]

We use [redacted]

[tall igloo]

Tell me

[mossy marsh]

I already did

[redacted]

[fallow delta]

|| nope ||

Check rules and look at the last one

[tall igloo]

Am I gonna get banned

[mossy marsh]

nah

[tall igloo]

Mod

?

[mossy marsh]

yes, [redacted]

[tall igloo]

Tomorrow I play

[mossy marsh]

Tomorrow I

[tall igloo]

Tomorrow I

[fallow delta]

Tomorrow I

[brittle light]

Tomorrow I

[solemn wigeon]

Tomorrow I

[robust marsh]

Tomorrow I

[tulip vale]

Tomorrow I

[orchid sorrel]

Tomorrow I

[vale jacinth]

Tomorrow I

[left cargo]

Tomorrow I

[fierce laurel]

Tommorow I

[amber skiff]

Tomorrow I

[tough totem]

Tomorrow I

[hexed vapor]

Tomorrow I

[fierce laurel]

whoops I spelled it wrong

tehe

[solemn wigeon]

Blocked

[tall igloo]

blocked

[keen rampart]

blocked

[mossy marsh]

blocked

[hallow lark]

Soundless!!

[brittle light]

It is now tomorrow

Also, back damage fixed pog?

[queen field]

No more chargers surviving back attacks

😳

[brittle light]

😳

[pallid jackal]

Hehe no more scouts surviving getting stabbed by knifes

[fallow delta]

For now

Even if it was not intended, i do hope it stays this way

[brittle light]

it's honestly still difficult enough

as to be worth it

since you have to hit the occiput on the scout - sure, it's possible, but it's not trivial by any means

[fallow delta]

For someone experienced it is very reliable still

Just that you may take longer for her to be in the right spot

Becomes more problematic if you can't sprint

As sprinting is what makes it reliable, as it stops her in place and reassures you she won't randomly 180

[nocturne flax]

Yo i cannot play now sadly

Did they reroll zone 224?

In b2

[pallid jackal]

Who knows

[candid dragon]

Yeah, but the scout might crouch for you now.

[brittle light]

in which case you 180 out of there until she's no longer crouched

[candid dragon]

Sounds like a hassle

[fallow delta]

@candid dragon apparently she only stands and crouches when retracting

But it has not been much time from the update

So far i haven't seen people say she can crouch at the start

[hazy trellis]

why is d4 so hard

[royal lichen]

it's not hard it's long (speedrunners disagree 🙂 )

[sick hornet]

I hate that they keep making difficulty in length

The levels are just annoying at that point

[regal thicket]

length?

[fallow delta]

I feel you

[fallow delta]

Making levels longer instead of actually more difficult

[regal thicket]

when d4 is pretty short if you know what you're doing

all 5 sections can be done within 10 mins individually

[prisma zodiac]

huh which level is specifically long o.O ?

[regal thicket]

none of them kekw

the players make it long not the devs

[nocturne flax]

what

[solemn wigeon]

All of these levels are short

[prisma zodiac]

longest clear was d3pe iirc for me. with 1 hour 30 min (and that was due to having a pause at the beginning)

[nocturne flax]

lenght its base on player skill

[solemn wigeon]

Except d2, that is just a big map

Bc floodways

[prisma zodiac]

d2 isnt even that big

[nocturne flax]

if you take your time clearing a zone with 3 rooms then thats on you

gotta bust a move if you wanna play this game

[fierce laurel]

bhop

[nocturne flax]

even without bhop

[regal thicket]

now i want error alarms on every level

[solemn wigeon]

No

[regal thicket]

to force people to actually move

[solemn wigeon]

You saw how that went in r4

[regal thicket]

and it was fun

[nocturne flax]

ah yes

[regal thicket]

plus r6 fixed errors

[nocturne flax]

4 strikers every wave

[regal thicket]

"fixed"

[nocturne flax]

on almost all levels

[regal thicket]

idk bro i find it fun and skill test

[solemn wigeon]

R6 is spicing up the errors with different enemy "advances"

[fierce laurel]

revive R4

[solemn wigeon]

R5E1 did it too

[prisma zodiac]

the only time an error is annoying is when it can spawn ahead of you without you being able to do anything about it

[regal thicket]

adapt

i actually don't mind forward spawning even in r5b2

[prisma zodiac]

r5b2 forward spawning was cool

i didnt like it in r4a2 tho

[solemn wigeon]

Forward spawns are only a minor setback because of the risk of uncontrollable scout triggers

[regal thicket]

it's ass for an a level

[prisma zodiac]

not that it mattered much

[regal thicket]

but it was fun once you coped

[nocturne flax]

r6b2 have forward spawns

i think

[solemn wigeon]

It does

[jolly trench]

Is there any tanks in C2 currently? I just had two back to back within the first couple of rooms. Not sure if the game bugged out or something else

[solemn wigeon]

But no scouts so its just an ambush

[nocturne flax]

no, tanks on c2

only mom

c3 and onward theres tanks

[prisma zodiac]

tanks o.O ?

[regal thicket]

r6b2 does a little trolling by spawning a wave once you do the scan to blood door

[jolly trench]

There was a guy who was killing things from outside the room, killing scouts etc. A tank spawned right on top of me

[solemn wigeon]

Hes cheating then

[regal thicket]

sounds like a menu

[jolly trench]

No clue which one it was, only got some random clips of things spawning in and a blood door being resolved as soon as it opened

[nocturne flax]

lmao yeah someone cheated

[solemn wigeon]

If anything seems out of place like that in a dark derelict facility its probably not meant to be there :^)

[nocturne flax]

Anything that makes people go: "ayo what the fuck"

its probably not suppose to be there

unless its some really obscure rng thing

[fallow delta]

Giants chargers are cheating in that case

Confused a big one for a small one

[jolly cipher]

Anyone know what the "Fixed bug where meleeing enemies from behind didn’t apply the correct amount of damage" is referring to?

[fallow delta]

As you read it

[nocturne flax]

back damage was broken on the previous patch,

[fallow delta]

Sometimes back damage didn't work

[jolly cipher]

To which enemy?

[regal thicket]

all

[nocturne flax]

all

[fallow delta]

All

[nocturne flax]

all

[regal thicket]

all

[nocturne flax]

damn

[regal thicket]

i want a d3pe and d4 matchmaking clear

😭

and then that'll be the whole pre ext rundown clear

[jolly cipher]

Doea that mean i can go back to killing scouts with any weapon now?

[fallow delta]

Yes, occiput for knife and bat

And animations got fixed as well

Now they will stand for everyone and crouch when retracting

Before, for the host it was the other way around

[sick hornet]

I mean for us its not bad, but think about newer players

[nocturne flax]

Omg that crappy arguemnt

theyre new

[sick hornet]

Its awful for anyone not super expirienced

[nocturne flax]

A1 its like 3 zones and they still take 4 hours

even hen the levle its super linear

[sick hornet]

I think every level is pretty good this rundown with the exception of maybe d2 and d4 but those arent really the main levels

[nocturne flax]

you have new players that make moves and beat the level in about 1 hour and 20 min and other who take 4 hours to do

its stupid to try to make a level so short for the people who regularly take breaks and or just take their sweatass time

you just cannot baby proof everything

[sick hornet]

Im overall happy with the lengths except D2 being unnecessarily long

I just mean in general

Like all of the E1s so far

[nocturne flax]

No level its welcoming for someone who doesnt know the game

[sick hornet]

I dont really agree with that but if that was true thats very bad for the games lifespan

[nocturne flax]

what do you want, 2 zones with 2 rooms each and 3 sleepers each room?

[sick hornet]

.

[nocturne flax]

its suppose to be a challenging game

but we are talking about new people

[sick hornet]

[nocturne flax]

D4 its short?

its as linear as A1

[errant vigil]

Checkpoints also make the levels drastically longer for new people

[nocturne flax]

D2 i can see been long, because floodways lel

[sick hornet]

Linear doesnt really mean short, but for a hard stealth level its a decently big size

[nocturne flax]

having a 50x 50 m room each door its legit crazy

[sick hornet]

“Hard stealth” not “hard” stealth

[nocturne flax]

shave you ever heard of sync enemies with a flashlight

you literally spend like at max 14 min in those stealh rooms

hell one them you can just pull

[brittle light]

y'all talking about level length? Why tho

Like, sure, first-clear with a semi-inexperienced team of 3 people we took 3h and a few minutes on D1, but that was with many many retries

and what do you mean some new players take 4h on A1? How??

[frail elbow]

[sick hornet]

Some people are super dogshit or just have never played an fps

[brittle light]

ah

or try to shoot everything, I reckon.

[errant vigil]

New people also still don’t use terminals

[brittle light]

also correct

always fun to teach em terminal basics

[nocturne flax]

Then people trying to first try PE knowing nothing of the level

[errant vigil]

I’ve seen more people just randomly open security doors they don’t need to open because it’s in front of them

[frail elbow]

I've done that before

[brittle light]

not sure how that matters in A1 beyond them opening both sides in the beginning at a like 80% chance

[brittle light]

been there, done that

"oh door, can be opened, doesn't have an alarm on it. Let#s just open it and see what's on the other side"

[nocturne flax]

The whole convo was, they balance levels around lenght

wich its false

[brittle light]

yeah no, doesn't feel right at all

[nocturne flax]

the speed depends on how much you spend on a level depends on how many moves you made, are you using a terminal?, are you checking the security zone?

[brittle light]

C3 feels long bc up and down and around we go, but it's really not that big either, is it
D2 feels big bc rooms are big-ass-rooms for some reason. Floodways?

[brittle light]

also how experienced you are

I've played with multiple new people this rundown and all of em do stealth properly - but slowly, bc they can't yet judge the timings and such

[nocturne flax]

i just said you cannot baby proof everything

its just dumb

[brittle light]

like, without any sprinting I can clear rooms like 6x faster

baby-proofing it would be stupid indeed

just saying that new peeps probably take that long bc they are overly careful, cautious and inexperienced in speedy-stealth

[brittle light]

sprinting and going hot speeds that up another 3-4x

[nocturne flax]

And we already have the warden objective helping you too

giving you clues on what to do next

[brittle light]

A1's warden objective has some funny things

[nocturne flax]

but sometimes its buggy or people just flat out ignore them

[brittle light]

^^

would probably help if they weren't really small in some corner of the screen

albeit any "proper" player would take a look at the HUD to figure out what's what

[errant vigil]

My man

[nocturne flax]

OPEN DOOR

[brittle light]

does it actually tell you to open the door after you did the scan?

[errant vigil]

There’s a big ass 5 sex message when you go up to the door with the key to unlock

Sec*

[nocturne flax]

SEX

MESSAGES

[brittle light]

my god

[nocturne flax]

They added sex i gtfo

finally

[errant vigil]

👀

[brittle light]

😳

[frail elbow]

[nocturne flax]

screenshoted and making into and nft

for posterity

[brittle light]

this channel devolves into shitposting so quickly I love it

[nocturne flax]

if you see an oportunity you seize it right?

[brittle light]

yep

[fierce laurel]

certified datacenter moment

[thick burrow]

seize me

[mossy marsh]

bruh

[nocturne flax]

Good job 10cc on the bots this uptdate

they did a good job

[solemn wigeon]

Since I haven't played the patch, how much are the bots improve

improved

[nocturne flax]

Still testing

gotta uptdate the guide

they took a lot of the feedback

wich is really nice

[fallow delta]

Do they yolo in giant strikers still?

[hexed vapor]

Well now I have no reason not to finish the stealth guide...

[solemn wigeon]

thats hot

[nocturne flax]

Good ending: bots now do limb damage

[solemn wigeon]

[nocturne flax]

theyre kinda buggy tho doing theyre melee animation dont know what gives

[solemn wigeon]

I mean we were buggy with 3rd person melee animations at some point so it's just a phase

[granite token]

What do you think of the idea of having an F1 level which is both a combination of all the quirks of R2/R4/R5 E levels?

[thick burrow]

Will never get introduced since an F-tier doesn't align with their "vision of the game"

[granite token]

😦

[granite token]

What do you mean it doesn't apply? 😦

[craggy summit]

considering their focus is on making the game more accessible, F tier is the last thing on their minds right now

[granite token]

I see

[craggy summit]

It would be fun to have a fun yet punishing level at the bottom, but I don't think people will be happy that they cannot finish it/access it

[granite token]

Yeah, I think they toned down the lethality of the level which was once prevalent in R2 and R4

[nocturne flax]

Gentlemen, remember, this is not the only rundown were gonna have

theyre gonna bump the difficulty some other day

[thick burrow]

entitled gamers..

smh

[craggy summit]

elitist mindset

[thick burrow]

I genuinely don't get the mindset of "I need to finish the entire rundown"

Lower tiers shouldn't be accessible to newer players to begin with

[craggy summit]

I can agree

[nocturne flax]

D2 its horrible for new players

some convo from the past

he

[craggy summit]

I wouldn't go into dark souls with the mindset that I must be able to finish the whole game without getting hit

as a new player

[thick burrow]

What?

Who gives a fuck what newer players think of D-tier?

[granite token]

That's why we need F-tier lmao. Do you have proof btw that F-tier doesn't fit into their vision?

[fallow delta]

people who get money from said players

bare in mind 1.0 was with the goal to help new players, which is why it's easier

personally i think they did a good job at it

[granite token]

Oh

Yeah, hence the checkpoints

[fallow delta]

jus that checkpoints should not have been broken at 1.0

that'll get some people away cause "bugs"

[granite token]

Yeah, on a business standpoint. It works because it introduces the game to a lot of new players since it's "officially" out of early access.

Definitely tone down the levels (for now) in R6.

[candid dragon]

The last E1 play rate was way lower than r4e1

[granite token]

Like how?

[fierce laurel]

everyone quit toward the end of R5

did you see the discord server

barely hit 30

[granite token]

What

I see

[mighty lion]

Fought my first Father today

What a thick angry boy

[granite token]

Well done

I did you die on your first attempt?

I did 😄

[mighty lion]

Almost did lmao

Pumped a veruta mag into it then we saw the blisters on its back

[granite token]

because I rushed him when I encountered him for the first time like a dense idiot

[nocturne flax]

veruta?

[granite token]

You have to take cover

[mighty lion]

The machine gun

The Techman Veruta XII

[nocturne flax]

Im stupid

[mighty lion]

😛

[nocturne flax]

forgot the other its heavy ar

not heavy machingun

[granite token]

So much for calling me dense lmao

XDDDDD

[nocturne flax]

I admit it atleast

[granite token]

me too

[mighty lion]

So mother is basically father but also pumping babies out?

[granite token]

Yeah

without the attack

[mighty lion]

neat

[nocturne flax]

pretty much

[granite token]

just the fog and the babies

[mighty lion]

Ah okay.

Is she fast like he is?

[granite token]

fast

[nocturne flax]

really fast

like fast fast

[granite token]

in the fog

[nocturne flax]

^

[mighty lion]

That's unpleasant.

[nocturne flax]

even worst

[granite token]

There is a giant one

[nocturne flax]

kill the babies and you have like 40 seconds of free reign to persue her around and try to kill her

[granite token]

a big one that is rare and you find and fight as a boss in the last levels of a rundown

[mighty lion]

Can you melee her to death?

[nocturne flax]

yes

do you want to, no treally

time consuming

I dont like to promote doing things that are time consuming unless you really want too

Hammering the tank tho was a thing that you had to do back in r4e1

because you took too long to turn of the error

[candid dragon]

i mean really, hammering the tank was only really done after the cells were in

because by that point, you either knew how to style on the tank or you didnt make it that far

also because most people were out of ammo by then

going down wasnt really an issue at that point because there was godly amounts of cover.

[velvet oak]

Why there is so much people wanting to see the giant kitting/capping die ? It's not like it was used by many players (To my knowledge, it's only Solo player, right ?)

[hexed vapor]

Because it's lame.

It's been used in popular cheese before, as well.

[grizzled ravine]

#MakeSolosFair QwQ

[velvet oak]

On which maps ? And is it still used by squad to pass maps ?

[fierce laurel]

are we talking about r5c2

[hexed vapor]

^

[velvet oak]

(#MakeScanSpeedEqual)

[thick burrow]

It's boring to watch

[velvet oak]

Oh, I didn't know it was used on this map

[velvet oak]

Damn you're right, and it's awfull to do

[thick burrow]

Aren't scans fixed to scale to the amount of players?

[velvet oak]

Nop

[thick burrow]

They are though

it changed in R5

[fierce laurel]

no

[velvet oak]

Nop nop

[fierce laurel]

just S1s

others weren't

[velvet oak]

Nop

[fierce laurel]

yes S1s were

[thick burrow]

oh, i forgor big red ones exist

[fierce laurel]

I can pull up the patch notes

[velvet oak]

Solo S scan (For D1 at least) are 100 seconds long

[thick burrow]

even with a team of 4

[velvet oak]

I can show you video proof ^^'

[fierce laurel]

yes

[velvet oak]

25 seconds

[fierce laurel]

they were normalized

are you okay

[velvet oak]

On R6D1 it's not the case, for the Class VI alarm

Both S scans are 100 seconds long

That's the only reason why Giants capping is used

[grizzled ravine]

That sounds so brutal

[nocturne flax]

I mean if it was a normal scan speed that alarm would mostly be a breeze

eh it may bring the disonnect from the match type shit on r2

lel

[velvet oak]

And you are right, during R4 Ext, if I'm not wrong, there was a patch in order to equalize them (Or it was R5 like you said) but the S scan for R6D1 are not the same, maybe they are the same for R6C2 - E and Regular R5 S scans ? But I didn't search the info.

[velvet oak]

If it was the same as a 4 squad team well ... yeah, I think

[nocturne flax]

They could standarize it by making 40 seconds for solo

Their really inconsistent when it comes to scan scaling tbh

they need to sit down and come up with a way to standarize all of it

[velvet oak]

S scan (D1 first and last scan Alarm class VI) : 25 seconds when 4, 100 seconds when Solo
Bulkhead Scan : 6-7 seconds when 4 , 20 seconds when Solo
Group scans : 7 seconds when 4, 11 seconds when Solo
Big Group Scan (D1 last scan Alarm Class V M) : 11 seconds when 4, 22 seconds when Solo

Scan speed scaling for non group scans are normal (Like the big reds)

[hearty escarp]

does the fog in R6D3 overload rise infinitely or does it stop rising once it reaches a certain threshold?

[mighty pond]

It wouldn't rise infinitely, it just covers all vision and stops

[fierce laurel]

I think theres a certain thereshold

[mighty pond]

Would make no sense for it to continue

[fierce laurel]

but thats above your head

[hidden lynx]

threshold, there is

its very high lol

[fierce laurel]

so you'll be covered in fog either way

[hearty escarp]

oh yeah by infinitely I just meant "as high as a player would ever get"

so ok, got it, thanks!

[mighty pond]

Fog is just a bar of fog that moves up or down as a level progresses (if it moves in the first place)

[hexed vapor]

It caps out at just above the catwalks in the reactor hall.

It's genuinely quite manageable to let it cap out.

But I'm biased since I'm very used to fog diving.

[fierce laurel]

R5B2 noises

[mighty pond]

Nah nah nah

R2D1

Ray did a lot of diving in that level

[hidden lynx]

fog diving terrifies me lol

i hate it so much

[mighty pond]

It's pretty easy tbh

It just takes a fair bit of learning

Navigation is the hardest part imo, audio is mostly fine and this particular rundown made it easier to see longer distances

[hidden lynx]

ill just breath really hard to get rid of the fog

[mighty pond]

I could be right next to a fucker and not see them before

[fierce laurel]

they made fog thicker tho

[mighty pond]

In some cases

[candid dragon]

the thick fog is seriously so hard to see through most of the time

cant even see the scouts in the end of c2

[mighty pond]

Most fog is insanely easy to see in this rundown

[candid dragon]

most of the fog isnt very thick this rundown

[mighty pond]

That's sorta my point

[brittle light]

yea the fog at the end of c2 is really bad to see through

[mighty pond]

They also made flashlights usable in the fog

[brittle light]

our solution was, in the end: Ping the scout, snipe em, move on

[candid dragon]

just had our scatterers throw a repeller

[mighty pond]

Idk, the c2 fog isn't horrible for me

[brittle light]

we didn't have any repellers on us and didn't want to run back again and again every time we died

since we were trying ext at the time still

[mighty pond]

It's probably the worst of it, but it isn't that unruly

[candid dragon]

i always found a couple past the mother

[brittle light]

huh

we didn't see a damn locker past the mother

probably just not looking well enough with the hybrids up our asses tbh

we were kinda panicking^^

[candid dragon]

with sniper and some refills i can hold off the hybrids for quite some time, when they only spawn in threes

i even just let them chill for a while so the next wave is delayed

i just tell the forward group to close the doors

[brittle light]

yee

[fierce laurel]

run the beeg fast

[brittle light]

we heard that a lot after we died our way through the end and gave up on completing extreme on our first C2 run due to one member having to go sleep

the sniper-speedy strat

we'll defo revisit and use it then but at the time our sniper wasn't confident enough in shooting hybrid heads with each shot

[grizzled ravine]

Nah let the hybrids come to you at the end so you can play a bullet hell while you wait.

[brittle light]

exdee

I mean, it do be fun, but I doubt we'll risk it

none of us are really that good at evading

[grizzled ravine]

The scan is quite fast, so you'll be fine.

[brittle light]

ah

alrighty

so basically, post blood-door just yeet to exit, got it

[grizzled ravine]

Ah here's the secret to dodging hybrids, even multiple, hard left or right even at walking speed.

Yeah, blood door is just a yeet.

[brittle light]

A until hybrid stops shooting, D until hybrid stops shooting, ...

basically

[grizzled ravine]

Yes

[brittle light]

we've learned that against the flying ones

just, when trying to stay on a very small scan we can't quite evade that well yet

I'm starting to get the grasp of it thanks to the occasional 8-shooter-bombardement when trying missions solo and leaving shooters alive, but I'm not sure how much my team'll be able to do that without like, a little bit of training it

I guess I'll poke em about that tomorrow or so

[grizzled ravine]

Shooters should probably die first since strikers come up to you.

But, the easiest way to simplify this game is that everything is a headshot simulator. If the room wakes up, just group up.

[brittle light]

been leaving them alive deliberately since I honestly lose more health to having strikers swarm me than having a few shooters in the back attempting to hit me. Dodging 1-2 of them is trivial

I'm very bad at dodging striker tongues, as well as close-range-headshots

working on that every time I drop into B1 to try and continue my solo run^^

[grizzled ravine]

You can do it.

And, just a difference of opinion on what to kill. I personally find it a little annoying to keep A-Ding or looking left or right to dodge shots.

[brittle light]

makes sense

when there's not a bunch of melees in sight I tend to just headshot the shooters anyways since I have the DMR and I usually just prioritize getting enemies dead (unless they start running at me, in which case I try to prioritize staggering them)

but when there's a bunch of melees nearby I'll rather shoot at them for now whilst they're not close yet than the 1-2 shooters behind em. That just tends to get out of hand every 7th or 8th try of the scans with more shooters RNG-ing into the mi

*mix

[grizzled ravine]

ye ye ye.

[mighty lion]

How does it work, dodging their tongues? It seems like distance at a diagonal angle is what works, but I don't know.

[fierce laurel]

their attack is in a cone range

its like around 30~40 degrees

[solemn wigeon]

Ur in a cone range

[fierce laurel]

😳

[solemn wigeon]

[brittle light]

I’m not sure, hence I’m bad

Does jumping at just the right timing still work against single strikers?
Or do you need to do a mix of moving in a oval/circular motion + jumping?

[solemn wigeon]

You don't even need to jump

[brittle light]

Wat

[solemn wigeon]

Just strafe left or right 5 paves

Paces

[brittle light]

I gotta try that. If it’s that simple xD

Against giants, crouch at the right timing, get around corners or get far enough away, right?

Or can you just walk left/right and evade those too

[solemn wigeon]

For giants just have some cover prepared or stagger it

Giants have insane range so merely running away will do nothing

[fallow delta]

Yes, strikers aim at your torso.

If you are moving fully left or fully right in a circle ish, you will also dodge both big strikers and small ones

It is SO tight that i advise to sprint a little, even spamming dodge helps. It is extremely tight.

You need to be already moving before they start their animation doh

And as it was mentioned, cover will be your best friend

[fallow delta]

^

Imagine a cone hitbox, your goal is to get out of said hitbox in time

Doesn't work if you go back or towards them, you can only work with left/right and cover

Imagine a clock and you are on the 6, striker being in the middle. If you are anywhere from 5 to 7 it's a hit, and the hitbox extends enough so it will hit you in other cases, even if you are running in a straight line sprinting

Reason why cover is a good friend. Best way to do things is

• hold cover, once overwhelmed fall back to the next one.
  Or
• have a big room to move in circles and mind how many shooters there are, as these will hit you time to time and mess your aim. Also mind you are on a time limit till your stamina runs out

[brittle light]

dodge is still in the game? How did that work again, I've not actually managed to press the buttons correctly for a while and forgot

[fallow delta]

as it used to, shift + A/D/S

it is not that usefull anymore doh, as i believe it doesn't make you dodge hits

see it as a minimal boost

which, in the case i mentioned, can help.

[brittle light]

I see~
Good to know, thanks!

[mighty lion]

Thanks for the detailed explanation

[royal lichen]

thank you all for the mommy door cfoam trick

[mighty lion]

That for C1?

[royal lichen]

c2 this time, usually we just rushfoam her but now tried the door method, 100%

[mighty lion]

Yeah, camp the corner, kill the trash, then foam the doorway and wait for her to come around right?

[royal lichen]

open bulk, run past the big door and close it, wait for her to come and bang on it once, open door nade her execute her

[mighty lion]

🧠

[royal lichen]

she wont mazeltov unless she sees players, she wont

and enemies "freeze" on door open, kinda cheesy but works

[obtuse cedar]

That's because it is cheese :p

You can do something similar with tank. Except that on door open, he has a chance to have his back toward you. So you can shoot him then close the door and repeat

[atomic escarp]

any recommendations for c2 extreme?

the constant stream of hybrids, combined with the mother and the 3 scouts

it feels nearly impossible

[hexed vapor]

Sniper, but they have to be good.

[obtuse cedar]

Get good at clicking heads for defensive team (sniper one shot those hybrid)

Have the rest of the team bombrush the mom.
For the scout just have someone shoot them for faster room clearing

[atomic escarp]

ok

[hexed vapor]

^^ I just push w/ pump shotgun and kill the scouts that way on my own.

[obtuse cedar]

You could split 2/2 if your sniper guy isn't that good.

[atomic escarp]

we have 2 good snipers

[obtuse cedar]

3 bullets in a clip, 3 hybrid

Easy

[hexed vapor]

Well, can they solo the hybrid wave?

If they can, great, if they can't, they're not that good.

[obtuse cedar]

Make the defense team carry the 4 use ammo too. Since they will constantly burn their ammo

The defense team stays exactly 2 room away from the offensive team. So while the offensive team is clearing a room, the defense team can shoot hybrids. When the offense move to a new room, the defense team must move into the next room to keep that 2 room away.
Once all scout are dead, you can rejoin your team and c-foam behind you a door to give you time for the blood door.
Note the offensive team will have to move cargo and cell at the same time as clearing.

[sick hornet]

or if you have someone that can click heads give them a sniper for defense and ur good

oh you already said that

it seems i am retarded again

[fallow delta]

^ this

all i can add to that is

• make sure everyone kills that mother
• give the team pushing mines, so they can pull rooms / mine the doors if they mess up a scout for some reason

and if you have 1 good enough sniper, he can get cargo back by himself and send 3 people into bulkhead room instead

[mighty lion]

Sniping in this game is really easy too. Should be at least one person on the team can do the role good enough.

[left cargo]

One guy with a scatter can hold hybrids. Just find the key fast

[brittle light]

honestly a well-aiming sniper can hold hybrids even better than a scatter

one-shotting a hybrid with a scattergun is just... not really that doable

it's possible but not nearly as accurate as headshotting hybrids, and the sniper has 3 ammo - for 3 hybrids/wave. Perfect, innit.

[candid dragon]

i can basically hold 3 hybrids all day as long as i have ammo.

and a sniper

scattergun significantly less long imo

[brittle light]

^^

[candid dragon]

kinda honestly wish it was actually 6 hybrid waves tbh.

[brittle light]

you do need to aim well but it's fairly easy to learn tbh

[brittle light]

spooky

maybe in an overload objective in the ext

3hybrid-3charger could be an interesting combination too imo

[candid dragon]

that r5 d2 tank error tho was just silly.

should have been just extract waves of tanks, like 15 tanks just coming for you.

[brittle light]

that would be funny as hell

I can totally imagine that tbh

have an E level with a bunch of pmothers in the level
at the very end, extract triggers a flee-sequence where you have to fight through 2 rooms with tanks in em and get hunted down by a bunch of moms or a mom error

so if you try to fight em get swarmed, if you don't fight em but actually play the running sequence properly that'd be fun

[candid dragon]

extract is a teamscan that takes 7 seconds

[knotty barn]

quick question D4 first jump. Is the room naturally on aggro mode? Or are they sleeping when you enter? One of my guys was a little gun-ho which ended in a hilarious fight for survival xD

[candid dragon]

sleeping both times.

just give a warning before grabbing

[knotty barn]

both ... didn't know that yet, but was to be expected xD

yeah I got a very grabby guy in the team, had a lot of panic runs with high sec cargos and such xD

though usually he is very good to not do it again after the first time, but the first time is always a grab xD

[fallow delta]

yea that room starts already with some enemies spazing out. Make sure you call out when you are about to grab it so everyone stops and turns lights off

[bold widget]

can i use hacket in clash royale

[fierce laurel]

he's 8 elixer I think

[timber crypt]

hi guys, just curious, what monsters spawn on D3 after the 15 minutes is up?

[solemn wigeon]

Standard strikers

[timber crypt]

i see, alrighty then thanks!

[solemn wigeon]

Just bear in mind it is a surge alarm error

[bold widget]

shit that's a lot

[pallid jackal]

Wait R6D3 has a surge alarm

[solemn wigeon]

After you finish main yeah

[idle sonnet]

Hello Any tips for C3 PE?

[mossy marsh]

kill

[pallid jackal]

You keep moving and god hope you know where your going

[grizzled ravine]

Ask @coral current to teach you.

[solemn wigeon]

Git gud

[idle sonnet]

Git gug Not happening XD

[coral current]

😭

[coral current]

let's run C3 PE

[solemn wigeon]

I'm good thanks

[coral current]

oh sorry not you

let's run c3 pe sometime @idle sonnet

[idle sonnet]

yes pls

[solemn wigeon]

Gl

[coral current]

could you wait an hour

[idle sonnet]

playing with others right now

[coral current]

kk

[idle sonnet]

@coral current can totally do that C3 now 🙂

[coral current]

can you wait for like 30min?

[tall igloo]

Kraken in d1 rite?

[light lagoon]

Ye.

[tall igloo]

Wish me luck

[light lagoon]

Don't expect to beat it first try it you're soloing with bots. The initial attempt (or few) is more than likely going to be to get a feel for it, especially if you try to hotbox.

[tall igloo]

6 tries i think?

[light lagoon]

I mean I can't exactly assume how many. Some things to keep in mind though that might help out:
-have the bots bring two Sentries (Burst most likely) and a Bio, while probably bringing a Sentry yourself. If you're going to hotbox you really just won't get much out of mines or foam
-when you get into the big hub room with the Class VI Scan, you can clear the top floor and then trigger them and pull them back out the room. You can drop from the center bit onto the lower area and run straight up to trigger the scan. I like to have the bots set sentries facing down both of the stairs while holding onto mine to drop it while doing the scans
-the scans are always in the same spots. At first it might be hard to navigate it in the fog but once you get a feel for the room it ain't so bad. You will be soaking up full infection though so keep that in mind as while health only depletes slowly, you won't be getting any disinfection packs

[tall igloo]

uh 2 bursts 1 bio 1 cfoam

fogs 😒

[light lagoon]

I mean if you'd prefer to do the whole level normally you can always try that if you don't like the fog.

[tall igloo]

its dark and foggy 😒

[opal island]

are there invis guys? in d lvl

[fallow delta]

just answered you in general, but yes in D3

[tall igloo]

when can i fight kraken

[fallow delta]

D1

[tall igloo]

idk!!

i got teleported back

telling me to uh go back to a1 area

and uh terminal command

[fallow delta]

do you mean you got teleported into the desert place?

[tall igloo]

nvm

is d2 in a1?

[fallow delta]

no idea what you are talking about

if you mean same map, no

[tall igloo]

aww

[fallow delta]

if you mean the desert looking place, It's only all the 1st levels, D1 being the last

[tall igloo]

hmm ok

i will redo d1 tomorrow

try to get like uh 1 hour 30 mins init

[fallow delta]

funny enough D1 got done in like 15mins or so

by skipping reactor and doing the "hard scan" in fog

[tall igloo]

what!!

[prisma zodiac]

yep it gone done in 9:38
Litteraly skipping the lengthy 50% of the level tho xD

[tall igloo]

should i learn how to speedrun when i get 50 hrs?

[prisma zodiac]

why?

[tall igloo]

Idk seems fun

[queen field]

lol

[prisma zodiac]

yeah speedrunning is fun

but probably should learn the game first

[tall igloo]

I think thats what im doing rn

I dont know alot

[prisma zodiac]

well yes? but youll most likely still be learning by 50 hours

[tall igloo]

100?

[prisma zodiac]

do it when you feel like you are rdy i guess

worst thing thappens is that you arent fast yet and can still improve more

[tall igloo]

I think 100

[sharp merlin]

C2 has no speedrun time :-)

[brittle light]

wait it doesn't?

[sharp merlin]

Nope

[brittle light]

no one willing to speedrun c2??

[sharp merlin]

Not " not willing"

just there is other stuff to play

I mean, the only thing with speedrunning is getting a dedicated group

then the sky is the limit fam

Or solo%, but I can guarantee you are never getting those

[brittle light]

exdee

[sharp merlin]

yuunh is too good

[prisma zodiac]

yep this

its tought cracking yuunhs solo a1 time

[sharp merlin]

that sounds like it's possible lmao

i tried, sub 10 is so hard

[prisma zodiac]

ye definetly is

[sharp merlin]

yet alone 6 min

[prisma zodiac]

my pb is 7:05 >.>

[sharp merlin]

good shit

[prisma zodiac]

stuck with the 7 min barrier in solo
And sad that my duo partner left for a1 duo

[thick burrow]

Would be a fast time as well

[sharp merlin]

It's not even hard, just knowing the map layout

Since you wouldn't be turbining

[thick burrow]

You'd skip 2 doors and be 99% infected to begin with

[prisma zodiac]

yeah its just a 15% hp run

[brittle light]

or less, at parts

[regal thicket]

15%?

[brittle light]

not sure if lowering the fog would be done in a speedrun

[regal thicket]

more like 1%

[brittle light]

theoretically waste of time

so 1% run

[thick burrow]

no

[prisma zodiac]

wait i never realized

[sharp merlin]

You have to lower fog for the first one, to unlock the door

[thick burrow]

Not at the first terminal

[prisma zodiac]

you dont need to lower it for the doors?

that makes it interesting

[thick burrow]

Is it a lockdown door?

Never bothered to check

[sharp merlin]

Yes. Class III -> terminal -> unlock

[prisma zodiac]

its a lockdown yeah

[dreamy bramble]

pretty much everything is under lockdown

[sharp merlin]

Even the main bulkhead?

[dreamy bramble]

it's a kinda boring level cause you can't sequence break anything

[brittle light]

yea but the others are cell lockdowns

[dreamy bramble]

idk the bulkhead

[prisma zodiac]

probably main one not?

[dreamy bramble]

never tried that

[prisma zodiac]

still that one takes no time to do

in a 4 man

[sharp merlin]

Well then, that means you only have to do the first terminal

[dreamy bramble]

yeah you can have one person disable that fog while people gather bulk key

[thick burrow]

doing the second one doesn't hurt

[sharp merlin]

I imagine the hardest bit is optimising the first blood door /generator

[sharp merlin]

True

[dreamy bramble]

blood door gen shouldn't be hard at all

[thick burrow]

Scattergun moment

[regal thicket]

just two scatter lmao

[dreamy bramble]

just abuse client mine immunity with scattergun

[sharp merlin]

emphasis on hardest bit

[thick burrow]

the hardest bit would be the end

[sharp merlin]

Sector%?

[thick burrow]

assuming you're taking extreme into accountability

[sharp merlin]

that would be the only fun way

[dreamy bramble]

extreme speedruns would be pretty fucked up

[sharp merlin]

Painful to run tho

[thick burrow]

but speed

[sharp merlin]

like a kick in the nuts

[dreamy bramble]

you would be playing on max infect the whole secondary

[thick burrow]

would take around 20/25 minutes

most pubs i've played take 30 minutes

[dreamy bramble]

you could probably just bring foam and foam doors behind you while you push cell+cargo

having to clear waves behind is bad for time

[prisma zodiac]

yeah

and the moment you reach the fog in the end

[thick burrow]

doesn't the first fog terminal have cfoam nades?

[prisma zodiac]

triggering scout doesnt matter either way if you cfoam

[dreamy bramble]

idk tbh

[prisma zodiac]

only behind blood door

[dreamy bramble]

i don't play the level enough to know

[prisma zodiac]

which is bad for time no?

[thick burrow]

you don't pull that one

just head for bulkhead dc

[prisma zodiac]

ah now i get what you mean sry. thought you meant second

cant read LOL

but yeah. pulling that 2nd blooddoor is just waste for speedrun

[thick burrow]

Pretty sure the first fog room has a hot spawn for a cfoam nade

just like R5A2 had

[prisma zodiac]

the zone which leads to first gen and term

has a cfoam spawn

[thick burrow]

so taking 2 cfoam launchers would be futile

[prisma zodiac]

where the turbine is aswell

[dreamy bramble]

it's probably either foam/mine/bio/sentry or double foam -sentry

sentry is only really helpful on the s1

[thick burrow]

and the class IV in the fog before the checkpoint door

[prisma zodiac]

y

[thick burrow]

you'll probably be worn out by the class III

[dreamy bramble]

oh right i forgot about that alarm lol

[thick burrow]

having an extra "gun" so to say would be helpful in that situation

especially since there's a chance of triggering the scouts

[dreamy bramble]

you probably wouldn't set off scouts cause you'll be moving so slow with the two cells pushing

as long as the scatterguns have their hands free they can push up and clear the zone before cells arrive

[prisma zodiac]

oof yeah the scout spawn might actually be a rng which can matter for class 4

[thick burrow]

You'd still want two persons pushing up ahead to clear the giants / small ones

[dreamy bramble]

yeye thats why you can have two people push

one left one right

the rooms are generally light in there

[prisma zodiac]

thats what i thought but it might actually be bad for time? depending on optimization

[dreamy bramble]

cells go left? i think

[thick burrow]

The spitters in that zone would literally kill the run

[dreamy bramble]

true lol

[thick burrow]

yes

right has a hack door

while left is a padlock

[dreamy bramble]

yeah thats what i thought

r4c3 speedruns were so shit bc of spitters

teamwiping cause of floor spitters was so much fun

[thick burrow]

I caught a glimpse of it

[thick burrow]

sound bug

[dreamy bramble]

gotta love it

and then they put a soundbug zone in d4

ty 10cc

[thick burrow]

just run through it like a chad

datacube only has 3 spawns (?)

[dreamy bramble]

yeah its just a few

running through it gives me soundbug and tinnitus every time tho

[thick burrow]

I still don't get why you get sound bug when restarting over and over

Figured they'd fix it for 1.0

[dreamy bramble]

it's one of the last few major bugs left

honestly will be a bit sad to see it go join ladder bug and scout inconsistency

[thick burrow]

GTFO won't be GTFO anymore

Good thing there are other major bugs I can hyperfixate on

[dreamy bramble]

host foam <3

[thick burrow]

[candid dragon]

I forget, cfoam ladder trick still present?

[royal lichen]

works in d2 at least, to an extent

just now d2sec uplink codes reset on checkpoint btw, were they previously the same every time?

.. if they randomized the codes upon cp in d2 d3, oossum (edit: d3 reactor codes still persist after cp)

[dreamy bramble]

uplink codes were always different iirc, it's the passwords that remains constant

[royal lichen]

mkay, gtk

[tall igloo]

WAS THAT THE

[calm coral]

double uplink codes are as good as instant anyways

if the log reader has ANY knowledge of terminals

whatsoever

[hexed vapor]

I don't think so, but it may just be that the d2 ladders are pretty short.

[thick burrow]

To some degree

[bold widget]

noob

[regal thicket]

no point to do it unless you want 15 chargers rushing you at once

[candid dragon]

not actually using it this rundown, simply trying to keep track of weird shit that still works or not.

[regal thicket]

as long as enemy collision exists

you can still do it

[thick burrow]

shut up

[foggy moss]

gottem

[signal fox]

It still works

I did it on C1 for the class V

[queen field]

what is that

blocking enemies going down the ladders by cfoaming the lower part of it ?

[velvet flower]

Just foam the ladder, the foamed striker will block all sleepers behind it(thx to collision).

The technique first widely used in R5C1, this rundown you can apply this strat to R6D4 error surge.

[queen field]

That sounds boring tbh

[velvet flower]

If you want to click more buttons, yes, it's boring for you.

[candid dragon]

Nothing could be more boring than where it was used in r5c1. So imo its not too bad

[thick burrow]

some little asian kid came up with it

@grand elk

[velvet flower]

Yeah, the first R5C1 soloer.

[regal thicket]

thanks for ruining half the lfgs and matchmakings

xd

[mighty pond]

using solo player strats in mm/lfg lmao

[errant vigil]

Game is hard with 4 : )

[pallid jackal]

How is it harder with 4 people

You have a more high chance of survival with having 4 people lol

[nocturne flax]

hes been sarcastic

if you couldnt tell

[solemn wigeon]

Communicating with 3 others is harder than not

[hexed vapor]

GTFO is way easier in quad, especially with me, myself, and I.

[mystic adder]

i mean the bots can see in the dark

[lost holly]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[regal thicket]

idk man

4p is harder than solo

lfg is wack

[atomic escarp]

Depends on the level

Some expeditions I’ve definitely found easier with bots

Others (C3) it’s nice to have people who you don’t have to constantly order around

[bold widget]

what button allows me to do a dance like in fortnite

[brittle light]

thankfully, there isn't a button that does that

[pallid jackal]

Yeah

[fallow delta]

[bold widget]

[hazy trellis]

tip and tricks for d4 last part

[royal lichen]

better to continue here.. we did it w/ cfoam, if u just get past the first surgewave w/o killing them and close a door on them, you're practically free and clear

[hazy trellis]

what about def so that one guy look for the battery

[queen field]

If you're using a mine deployer as well, you can place a mine on the main door, have someone permafoam until you manage to get the cell near the door

[royal lichen]

ping the cell if u have time, everyone go into the room w/ cell, usually it's room C .. one gets the cell and all go up a flight of stairs to the ledge, then cfoam guy freezes the stairs w/ all cf he's got

[queen field]

Let the door explode, kill the remaining dudes & move on with the cell

Ofc you'll get hit but you won't die

[royal lichen]

enemies come up stairs and freeze, when most / all frozen, jump down, close door, walk/run closing doors

[queen field]

oh you do this strat

[royal lichen]

don't kill anyone in the room as surge will spawn "ahead" if u do

our bots did and we barely made it, ~10 enemies spawned outside the room

there's a shitload of cf grens and cf mines, use all of em to buy time for the 2 scan doors

u can cfmine a wall pointing at a door and shoot the mine, it freezes the door

[heavy siren]

with the fixed melee damage from behind, can bat or knife kill scouts in occiput?

[regal thicket]

bat can always kill it consistently, knife can now

[heavy siren]

can scatter oneshot scout now

[velvet flower]

It can always do.

[brittle light]

just need to be close enough

scattergun can defo face-blast scouts, not sure if shooting them from the back might've been buggy if you didn't hit the head before

but it deals so much damage I'd not be surprised if even a backshot kills a scout

or sideshot, without the x2 multiplier from back-hits

also scattergun needs to be really close

[nocturne flax]

your complicating youself so much my god

that shit does 120 damage

it does fucking front shot everything lmao

[queen field]

^

[signal fox]

Scattergun will kill an entire bloodline

[sharp merlin]

?

[signal fox]

Too much damage

[queen field]

lmao

[sharp merlin]

devious lick

[brittle light]

lmao indeed

😳

[queen field]

Aside from mothers & tanks, everything die with a single shot of a scattergun

[nocturne flax]

devious dick

[signal fox]

@nocturne flax I don’t say dumb shit all the time

[brittle light]

provided you hit the face of the hybrid