gtfo-spoiler-chat

[royal lichen]

most often in the very end of 171 west

[grave abyss]

i checked 171 fully, all the way in, nothing.

[royal lichen]

always a lock/hack box/locker

[grave abyss]

where else could it be?

[brittle light]

you have to check the final bit there again, the final room

[grave abyss]

did full 171 then back to 170.

[brittle light]

if it's hidden in some locker in a corner in there then you could have missed it

but it's defo gonna be somewhere in there

[dreamy bramble]

check your teammate's hands

[brittle light]

xD

also yea

shouldn't there be a "objective items" list on the left side of the screen?

it lists keys and bulkhead keys for me at least?

[grave abyss]

can it be in 170?

[brittle light]

no

171c

[fallow delta]

Is 170 the long hallway before the room where you usually find the first bulkhead?

[grave abyss]

also, don't you gotta get into 173 -> 175 checkpoint door to beat it normally?

we're usually ok on ammo/life/etc. We just get lost in the fart gas to die.

[royal lichen]

yep, 173 -> 175 -> 178 -> 179 -> home

[grave abyss]

because we don't know where the escape area is.

[royal lichen]

(main that is)

[dreamy bramble]

main only you shouldn't be seeing fog

[grave abyss]

ah ok. 178 is through the south of 175 ya?

we're getting fogged out of main

[dreamy bramble]

you're extremely behind pace then unfortunately

as you continue on the main path you keep moving higher

[brittle light]

oh, you need to get through Main in order to extract?

[real moss]

If you see fog while only doing main--> run faster

[brittle light]

is it worth it, with a team that can't really do tanks, to unlock the extract and then yeet to overload and finish the scan there, then yeet out before the first tank ever spawns? In C3 that is

[dreamy bramble]

you will get extremely infected

[queen field]

That's possible but i wish you good luck

[dreamy bramble]

but if you can manage it sure

[brittle light]

bleh

[queen field]

infection + fog

[brittle light]

forgot about the fog

yeah

ugh

[queen field]

• tank that may be in the first room

😳

[brittle light]

don't need to ever see the tonk there

only if you want to bulkhead key to actually go to extreme too

[queen field]

tru

[brittle light]

or to main, if you do it proper

we'll props try PE but I just wanted to know my option

*options

I forgot the fog

isn't extreme just plain annoying then

[queen field]

You can clear overload pretty fast if done well

[brittle light]

getting the cells from somwehere
then going back

[queen field]

extreme is long

[brittle light]

yeah

[queen field]

but there are lots of resources

So it's not really a problem

[brittle light]

on our first attempt, when we didn't know there was tonks, we basically got through overload within 20 minutes and then died to the second tank by virtue of unexpected

extreme'll be fun

so if we know there are tonks - and can actuall deal with them bc none of us ever learned that yet - I reckon overload's really quick

the scan for main's bulkhead's still gonna be foggy, isn't it

[real moss]

wait how do you open overlord without a bulkhead? you used it for main. you have to do overlord first. if you open main, overlord is locked. (unless you plan using the secondary key for it?)

[brittle light]

that was the plan for that train of thought

that train of thought was:
go into main --> unlock the extract area so that it's a clear run --> get to overload and do the scan at 30 minutes (sadly fog) --> run to extract, never face a tank

but thanks to the fog that's not really hte best idea

[real moss]

You should not have fog at main scan and overlord should be no more than 5 minutes. You should see fog the first time when going into secondary otherwise you are behind on schedule

[real moss]

If you skip sec it is possible

[brittle light]

^^ still a stoopid idea probably

[brittle light]

Yea

[real moss]

But for PE .....

[brittle light]

we didn't really expect a tank and then the tank was really uncertain where to go and just stood with it's back facing us. Through the only door in the room

so we wasted some time there

[real moss]

That can be a problem yes 😅

[brittle light]

now that we know there's a tank we'll try again and probs do better
and we'll bring tank killers this time XD

[vernal rose]

1 scattergun should be enough

[brittle light]

none of us can use that thing well

[queen field]

kiss the tank's back

tumors gone

😳

[brittle light]

so we'll probably duo-sniper and just have 2 of us shoot the tank

😳

[queen field]

no need to duo sniper

you can use shotgun/choke mod as well

[brittle light]

tbh that's an option

[queen field]

1 sniper may be useful against hybrids & giants

but 2 is overkill

[brittle light]

might as well

we're defo gonna have one sniper, but I really like the shotty after I found out it exists yday

might just use the shotty if it can pop tumors

[nocturne flax]

How to fix 90% of problems on gtfo

just bring a sniper

[brittle light]

it's true tho

[nocturne flax]

meanwhile in r5
"Wh1 tAnK iSnT dYiNg FaSt EnOuGh" "we keeep dying"
brings 4 hel rifles

[brittle light]

hybrids are annoying? Just bring a sniper
Many giants? Just bring a sniper
Can't melee scouts? Just bring a sniper (don't snipe multi-scout-rooms pls)
Can't kill bosses? Just bring sniper
Can't hit the kraken? Just bring sniper

xD

[queen field]

Surge comes in

sniper

[brittle light]

R5 Hel Rifles were jank, weren't they

[queen field]

based

[brittle light]

Surge alarm goes brrr? Just use quad-burst turret

[royal lichen]

r5 hel rifle dual scout kill boom yeses

[queen field]

Hmmm yes

[brittle light]

ah right

[queen field]

4 sentries in D4

definitely

[brittle light]

yeaaaaaaaaah

meme run

[queen field]

Surely everything will be fine

😳

[brittle light]

😳

[nocturne flax]

they were good but people as always were retarded and didnt vary their loadoud and get destroyed by bosses and multiple enemies breaking their position and bitching on why they had to kite c2

[brittle light]

lowkey when my team has dealt with D4 I'm gonna drag em through there with a meme run

tbh

[brittle light]

lol

[nocturne flax]

same shiot on r4 with burst canon

[brittle light]

afaik there's not a single place you needed to kite, with exception of maybe certain E levls

right?

[nocturne flax]

r6 probably the most healthy rundown

everyone brings something different and i love it

meta hurt a lot more on the previous rundowns more than anything

[nocturne flax]

No level required kiting ever

but lets leave that topic die already

[brittle light]

^^good idea

[nocturne flax]

Kiting its been addressed

[brittle light]

meta 🤡
meta isn't edible so I dun care

simple enough

[fallow delta]

Balance is pretty good atm

Only things that "pop out" are sniper and scatter as they are used for a different purpose

Of course everything has ups and downs, but all usable.

[brittle light]

sawed-off-shotty

lowkey works really well in a team, it's excellent to fill in the role of the person that kills the guys that do get close whilst everyone else shoots the wave

[queen field]

The game definitely needs a better balancing

[brittle light]

*needed

it feels very balanced this rundown

[queen field]

Still need

[brittle light]

oh?

[queen field]

Sawed off is dogshit

[fallow delta]

What feels unbalanced?

[brittle light]

sawed-off works fine

it's only 3 shots, sure, but it's basically a shotty

[nocturne flax]

It legit works fine

its a primary

[brittle light]

you just need to play around triple-kill-reload

and it's a primary, yeah

[queen field]

A shotty that almost never kill as well as a regular shotgun (cuz primary)

[fallow delta]

While i can agree AND explain on why i find it worse than any other primary, i still think it is not too bad to not be used

[nocturne flax]

it legit does 25 damage

it kills good

you just need to be close

[brittle light]

it legit oneshots enemies if you shoot at their head

it doesn't body-blast waves like the other shotties, sure

[queen field]

Idk at what range then

cuz it never kills for me

[brittle light]

but oh noes, you need to aim in the general direction of their head

yeah it's close range

[nocturne flax]

If i where to be buffing it i would most likely increase the falloff from lik 4 > to 6

[fallow delta]

Just missing or not close enough

[brittle light]

basically, if you can jump forward to melee the sleeper you can sawed-off it

sawed off has the advantage of quick reload and 3 shots

[queen field]

I shoot twice with hel rev

problem solved

😳

[brittle light]

viable

against 3 enemies you'll need 6 shots from hel rev tho

and you need better accuracy

[queen field]

technically 3

2*

[brittle light]

if they're all in a row

[fallow delta]

3 Was right

[queen field]

oh well

4 i think

[brittle light]

how unlikely do you think that is on normal scans

[queen field]

since only 1 penetration

[nocturne flax]

Its bugged

[brittle light]

4 might work yeah

[queen field]

That happens pretty often tho

[nocturne flax]

you can overpen more

[queen field]

LMAO

[nocturne flax]

sometimes it pens more

[queen field]

What the fuck

[nocturne flax]

for what some people told me

yeah

[brittle light]

on chokepoint sure, but the moment they get closer to you they're not in the lines anymore

[queen field]

That's why you kill them before they get close to you

[nocturne flax]

they two different playstyles

[queen field]

OR you switch to secondary

[brittle light]

true

[queen field]

aka shotty

[fallow delta]

I'm just a dmr enjoyer

[nocturne flax]

i dont understand why the comparison

[brittle light]

I think spongebob man's correct

[brittle light]

same

[queen field]

idk i like to complain

[nocturne flax]

comparing a hel weapon to a fucking shotgun

like what

[brittle light]

but I do other weapons to have some fun every now and then

[nocturne flax]

primaries too

[brittle light]

if you put it that way

both of us just look stupid

[queen field]

What i mean is that i find it more useful (in my case) to pick a medium/long range weapon as primary rather than a shotty

[fallow delta]

Doesn't sawed off blast giants?

[mystic adder]

dmr scope bug always cracks me up, whip it out and its off to the side of your screen

[queen field]

especially since the holy scattergun exists

[fallow delta]

The what now

[brittle light]

3 hits from the sawed-off, especially from the back, do be enough against a giant

so it's a quick giant killer

you need 4-5 blasts from the front tho

[queen field]

prenerf scattergun was nothing close to balanced tbh

[brittle light]

and the back damage is janky

[mystic adder]

Quick swapping to dmr can make the model fall off to the side of your screen

[queen field]

lol

[nocturne flax]

One you need 3 shots to kill 1 single sleeper and its entire purpose its funneling to be effective, the other its a primary shotgun thats there to give some breathing room when you get pushed

[fallow delta]

Never had that happen so far

[royal lichen]

i have the tilted weapon model thing now and then, just do "3 2", fixd

[mystic adder]

Its cool, gangster style

[brittle light]

@vivid quartz share your secrets

enlighten us

[vivid quartz]

ay yo

[brittle light]

how do you do the C1 T scan

[vivid quartz]

There's some spots where you can throw foam nades where sleepers will get stuck behind you, if you don't kill them, it doesn't spawn a new wave immediately as you progress up the death staircase (The part at like 92%) most of them will end up coming from behind, but only after you've finished the scan so you can clear them at the top

That particular dark corner area is the worst sometimes

I would need to get screenshots to demonstrate what I'm trying to say but I guess next time I'll record my C1 and show you what I mean

[brittle light]

ooo

sounds neat, thanks for the info!

[haughty plank]

Or you put up like 20 mines, two sentries in the spawn room and take bioscan speed with ya ;D

[vivid quartz]

This is for solo

[brittle light]

and I believe we are talking about TS, not BS^^

[regal thicket]

shoot better

[grave abyss]

D2 is a nightmare.

a horrible wiggly weird nightmare.

but i love it.

[coarse zephyr]

any shadows in this rundown?

[real moss]

D3

[coarse zephyr]

awesome im on D2 rn, so almost there lol

[real moss]

Have fun 👌

[coarse zephyr]

biotracker still meta for them or has it changed?

[royal lichen]

bio and good flashlights

[coarse zephyr]

bet

ty ty

[atomic escarp]

whats the hardest single objective mission in R6?

[sick hornet]

D4 probably

[atomic escarp]

what makes it that hard?

[sick hornet]

Its not super hard, but def the hardest level on just high

It does have a lot of checkpoints so if you use those it’s exponentially easier

[plush basin]

Theres a tough alarm near the start, a very difficult stealth section, and a hard permanent alarm at the end. I'd say those parts in particular qualify it to be the hardest level

[real moss]

Play it to find out 👌

[atomic escarp]

bold of you to assume ill ever beat D1

[stiff bay]

hahaha

[real moss]

You will I trust you

[atomic escarp]

thank you father

[sick hornet]

Simply do the D1 skip

Straight to the warden door

[real moss]

If @stiff bay can do it, you can too

[grizzled ravine]

[stiff bay]

hmm, actually, i didn't even play D1 yet

[atomic escarp]

and then do the last alarm door in darkness and fog???

[real moss]

then I take back what I said

[grizzled ravine]

Yes

Not that bad. If you just gotta be able to shoot and not have a bodybag for a biotracker

[real moss]

the scans for that one are set, so you always know where to go

[atomic escarp]

we tried that scan only twice so far and had to stop because of time issues but we werent even close to beating it with lights on and fog off

[real moss]

How long to go to that scan?

[atomic escarp]

i think we always died on the fifth

the one before it goes up again?

[real moss]

I mean how long did it take to get to that part?

[atomic escarp]

ohh

~ 2 hours

little less

but it was first try

[real moss]

first try thats pretty good

[grizzled ravine]

Understandable

[real moss]

I saw people do 5 hours 😅

[atomic escarp]

c1 took us 8 because we just couldnt beat that moving scan 🥲

[grizzled ravine]

Aint nobody ever wanna shoot with like 16 ammo on that map

[grizzled ravine]

Yeah but you now know the only sticky points are the stairs

[real moss]

full team?

[atomic escarp]

cant get more embarassing

yes full team

[grizzled ravine]

Thats ok. We have people unable to clear A1

[atomic escarp]

idk we struggle hard with defending against waves if they come from more than one side

[real moss]

Loadouts? what kind of guns do you have?

[atomic escarp]

d1 or c1?

[real moss]

D1, now C1 is finished 🙂

[grizzled ravine]

If you take bullpup throw that shit in the trash

It go BRRRR but it wastes ammo despite being "efficient"

[atomic escarp]

biotracker, mines, 2x burst sentry

Hel-revolver, HAR
pistol, normal shotgun
the 3 shot rifle (forgot the name), sniper
DMR, Sniper

[grizzled ravine]

Yeah you can win that.

That DMR Sniper guy be griefing ammo packs, but ez W

[atomic escarp]

we copied it off a guide :D

[real moss]

That loadout is good, the only thing missing is a good spraying wave stopper

but that's personal pref

[grizzled ravine]

The pistol and hel revolver cover that job

Even burst rifle does that well because that gun aint killing because that 3rd bullet likes to go awry

[atomic escarp]

thank you guys for helping a noob :)

[real moss]

You will manage and I think next run you will be at scan faster

If you need resources tho, open Z192 after removing fog

You will be full of ammo for the last scan

[atomic escarp]

we skipped that optional loot zone tho

maybe that was our mistake

[grizzled ravine]

More hassle than its worth

[real moss]

It's a easy scan really

But it's JUST if you are low on stuff

[atomic escarp]

im curious about sumn

whats the best general loadout?\

[fallow delta]

Whatever you are comfortable with

But if you want an overall..uhm

I guess assault rifle and heavy ar

[heavy siren]

It's really down to personal pref

A lot of ppl like hel revolver, I can't stand it just don't have the feel for the gun

[atomic escarp]

I been using bullpup rifle shotgun

it just feels chunky

[regal thicket]

almost all the main are always good

hel gun/har never hurts

[atomic escarp]

shotgun feels like it should do maybe a bit more damage

hel gun

what is that

never used it

[dreamy bramble]

revo but small charge, pierce, more damage/mag size and less ammo per refill

which are actually a lot of differences now that i type it out but you get it

[regal thicket]

revolver but actually good

:dab

[atomic escarp]

hel gun is better than the hel revolver at dealing with big guys

[queen field]

wow

a secondary weapon is better than a primary weapon to deal with giants

epic

[brittle light]

[sharp merlin]

wildest take

how controversial

[brittle light]

incredibly controversial indeed

[granite token]

I wish both HEL Rifle are in this rundown.

because that would be too op

so op

[queen field]

Too bad they removed combat shotgun

would've made lots of levels easier

[granite token]

Yeah

I miss the combat shotty

It's the longest serving rundown specific weapon

[queen field]

instead we got the big brother scatty

[granite token]

Yup, the shredder boi

[queen field]

Next time we'll get a homing gun

i call it

[granite token]

yeah

Combat Shotty is the longest serving rundown specific gun in the game

Too bad it's gone atm

[fierce laurel]

wait combat shotty is gone?

[atomic escarp]

...yes?

[fierce laurel]

I never noticed

[brittle light]

yeah?

[obtuse cedar]

it'S ok, the scattergun does the same thing then combat shotgun, just better

would be pointless to have it

[granite token]

yeah

[granite token]

scattergun is just combat shotty that is more powerful and less ammo

[atomic escarp]

and has less dpammopack

[atomic escarp]

best melee weapon

?

[digital dawn]

they all have pros and cons, there is no best melee weapon

[left cargo]

Depends how u wanna play

[fierce laurel]

beginners take sledge

once you get used to the game then explore possibilities

[left cargo]

Beginners take spear 😎

[atomic escarp]

gods take hammer

intermediates take whatever

scaler takes knife

[candid dragon]

i take all of em depending on what i want. no real default for me.

[fierce laurel]

I take sledge on a normal day and knife if I'm bored

[candid dragon]

either bat or knife if i expect a lot of active combat

[brisk gyro]

i take actual guns, what century yall living in

[atomic escarp]

lol

i take both

in case i run out of shoot shoots

[queen field]

560 B-C

[atomic escarp]

lol

i live in 2022

[heavy siren]

Spear is good if you're not good at dealing with scouts with a hammer

[atomic escarp]

im not

idk how good spear is

worse than hammer?

[heavy siren]

But spear is kinda different still, like I got used to charging and not sprinting gives a second to think where I'm gonna be hitting depending on where my mates are hitting

Spear is still good at dealing with giants as well

I don't really see yellow syringe other than b1 so uh yeah spear is good for b1 I guess

But anything else too because there are plenty of scouts and with longer range it's easier

You can't charge and sprint at the same time on spear

I feel like hammer charge was faster too but it's prob not

Often enough because I'm not sprinting while charging at some fuckups I notice a sleeper running past me from my back to attack my friend, and that gives me a target and I can save my friend

[atomic escarp]

Are rundown specific weapons gonna be back?

[mossy marsh]

they might

it's not that they are exclusive to a specific one rundown

[queen field]

^

[thick burrow]

Burst cannon 🙂

[candid dragon]

i want burst cannon to return with select fire

ADS does 1 shot, hips does the standard

[queen field]

Ah yes

the legit burst cancel

Burst cannon usage rate skyrockets to 100%

😳

[candid dragon]

its why it was spammed in the first place.

other aspects of it should be nerfed tho

[queen field]

Well

the damage output was incredible

[candid dragon]

well, scattergun.

but.

[queen field]

still wondering why scattergun exists tbh

feels like a dev weapon

lmao

[candid dragon]

boss monsters probably.

[queen field]

inb4 a weapon that OS everything in front of you

framerate drops to 2

[candid dragon]

hel cannon

[queen field]

fuck no

HEL combat shotgun

more like surge destroyer

[real moss]

even for boss monsters, what is wrong with old school killing a mother ?

[thick burrow]

Too difficult

Devs want easy game

Right d0c?

[candid dragon]

cause playing wait for mom to not strafe-dance in the middle of nowhere strat is a pain in the ass.

too much cheese is invented for fighting her.

[queen field]

haha closed door momento

[real moss]

I mean why not put a delete button in front of the room that you can push BEFORE opening the door then ?

[candid dragon]

thats called a mine.

all im saying is that, how the mother works was bandaided by the existence of scattergun

both tank and mother need to be tweaked to be slightly more aggressive.

because otherwise they just sorta stand around like they dont get paid enough.

[queen field]

Tank will be easy to fix

just make it sometimes rush at players

As for mothers it's a bit more complicated

[candid dragon]

honestly, if the fog wasnt so thick i could live with it.

[thick burrow]

You’re asking the devs to fix a.i?

[candid dragon]

im asking for chargema

[queen field]

Should i bait and ask what is chargema

[ivory spade]

I actually agree that mother is... obnoxious.

It's so different every time you fight them.

[fierce laurel]

charge ma nuts in your mouth

[ivory spade]

Sometimes they just stand there and be all trivial. Other times they walk into a wall and clip all their weakpoints through the map then birth so you can't shoot them.

Literally rolling a dice to see whether the encounter is over in 5 seconds, it works as intended, or you wipe.

[olive fog]

Do shadows constantly spawn when getting 5th code for reactor in d3?

[fierce laurel]

they spawn with the reactor wave

but you're not gonna get the code the first time

[olive fog]

3 defend while one stealths through for key and blood door?

[queen field]

you can do 2/2

[obtuse cedar]

that is what the chargers think everytime they down you Dusk 😉

[queen field]

No need to stealth

just shoot everything

Ammos definitely aren't lacking in D3 lol

[fierce laurel]

😳

[obtuse cedar]

you know you love it

[royal lichen]

d3 5/5 code, do they again have a set spawn point? to the south of reactor?

[candid dragon]

yes

i think

[fierce laurel]

isn't it east?

you go through the middle top grab the key and bring it to the north door and kill tank kun

[proven yarrow]

finally beat c1 with my friends in 90 min, one wipe

[regal mist]

king shit right here

[proven yarrow]

granted weve wiped many times before tonight lol

though total wipes on final scan was only 3

[regal mist]

The only run that matters is the one that succeeds. All others are just practice runs

[proven yarrow]

exactly

[sharp merlin]

i have been practising running d3 for 5 hours

🙏

[hexed vapor]

All of the reactor waves are set to spawn in the elevator zone.

[royal lichen]

thanks, so the same defense setup will work even tho 1 sneaks west and goes beyond 2 rooms away from others

[hexed vapor]

Yes.

[royal lichen]

we got 4/5 yesterday, once even opened tank city, failed ofc :)

[hexed vapor]

For reference, all reactors spawn waves either from the elevator zone or from a random area. The random spawns aren't well understood, but it seems like it picks a room at least 2 away from players where the pool of available rooms is based on paths from the reactor. It's unclear if it will pick a spot 2 away from the reactor or if it will just consider the 1st room on a particular path if players are far enough away. It's also pretty good about spawning enemies further out on a path when players are pushed out, they shouldn't spawn in rooms between players and the reactor without the map generation confusing things or players standing in the very last room on a path.

[royal lichen]

appreciated, good stuff. thanks.

[high talon]

When do I encounter shadow sleepers?

[royal lichen]

d3 for sure

[high talon]

ahhh gottcha thanks my guy o7

[foggy moss]

looking to join a casual game b2

[last gust]

I kinda get the impression they designed the rundown around it. I don't recall R5 having rooms that could spawn 3 mothers, or error alarms that spawn hybrid waves.

Also for my money, scattergun isn't as busted overall as hel rifle was in R5.

It's like, actually a burden to be on scattergun duty

[regal thicket]

error alarms that spawn hybrid waves
r5e1 says hi

[last gust]

ah k, I didn't get to E1

[regal thicket]

r5c3 also

[last gust]

but also we don't have E levels in R6 yet

maybe the hybrid waves was a bad example

[queen field]

There was a freaking tank error in R4E1

Where was scattergun back then

😔

inb4 burst cannon

[brisk gyro]

burst cannon

[queen field]

See y'all

i called it

[hexed vapor]

Scattergun kinda blows for tanks, though.

Sniper is way better imo.

As was BC.

[regal thicket]

scatter bad

[azure magnet]

Do not, my friends, become addicted to the scatter. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence.

[ocean tundra]

I like to pretend it's a blunderbuss and sing sea shanties while deleting big guys

[atomic escarp]

whats the easiest level of those: C2, C3, D2, D3, D4 ?

[plush basin]

If just main probably C2

[nova loom]

C2 main, C3 main, C3 secondary, D4 atleast in my opinion and D3 is most certainly the hardest

[brittle light]

C2 secondary is just plain painful
We got lucky with the bulkhead key placement. Any tips on how to get through with that hybrid error on your heels? Just yeet, kill the scouts, run through? Considering we'll be carrying multiple items (cell, turbine, hisec cargo) it's incredibly annoying and we're slow.

the mom wasn't the problem, getting past all the foggy scout rooms with constant hybrids on our heels was.

Is the strat in the end to have 2 teammates hold up the hybrids, possibly without killing them even - just being there and getting the hybrids to stand still and shoot?
We can prepare and get fog repellers, so the turbine is optional, isn't it

[vernal rose]

Strat for holding waves is 100% sniper with at least 2 more ammopacks

[brittle light]

figures

[vernal rose]

Then feel free to just shoot the scouts with a pump or something else

[nocturne flax]

Dont separate more than 2 rooms away

[vernal rose]

1 person with the sniper is usually good enough

[brittle light]

oh yeah defo

we know about the 2-room-rule

[nocturne flax]

always be 1 room separated

no

[vernal rose]

Unless they miss 2 every mag

[brittle light]

we have a good sniper thankfully

we just didn't know where anything was, so first-time-extreme before main was probably a bad idea

when we do it again with extreme it should be easier, but we'll see

[vernal rose]

You don't have to take the turbine, its more of a feels nice thing, if you ahve any spare, take fogs

[brittle light]

makes sense

we had a lot of fogs in the map, we could probably just have prepped a few of them by going back, getting them, and then exchanging them with glowsticks in the resource/disinfect zone

so the turbine isn't necessary

how many hybrids spawn?

one wave at a time or multiple?

[vernal rose]

Tbh, the scuffed times that I did the last blood door was just telling my team to fuck off and bring the cargo to extract by myself

[nocturne flax]

its 3 hybrids

every 30 seconds

[grizzled ravine]

Blood door isn't a real issue. Just mine horizontal and pointing in (from the nearest pillar) they go boom and you scurry away

[nocturne flax]

Just pull the rooms

shoot scout pull back clear

repeat until blood door

then you jusut push to victory

[atomic escarp]

^

only wrench in the plan is if they spawn ahead

which I think they can

but even so you should have time to headshot a scout, close, mine

[vernal rose]

I always leave my team after opening the blood door

: )

[queen field]

They don't

[atomic escarp]

Are you sure? I remember them spawning once ahead as soon as we killed the mother

I could be wrong of course

And I'm 100% sure R4 errors could spawn ahead

[queen field]

R4 errors could

[atomic escarp]

Can't remember R5's tbh

[queen field]

R5 errors could as well

R6 errors don't

[nocturne flax]

Like i meantion before

[atomic escarp]

And how does that work exactly now then?

[nocturne flax]

dont separate more than 2 rooms away

[queen field]

Specifc spawn rooms

[nocturne flax]

always be 1 room from eachother

[vernal rose]

They spawn from the behind, usually

[nocturne flax]

they can spawn in between you

[atomic escarp]

How exactly? Does the game try to spawn them at the player's entry point and move up from that until it's 2 rooms away?

Does it just mark rooms the team hasn't been in yet as unspawnable?

[queen field]

D3's errors always spawn in the same spots for ex

[atomic escarp]

Yeah I know about that

[queen field]

For C2 they can pick several rooms but it's never ahead of you

[atomic escarp]

But the objective says it specifically

which zone they come from

[queen field]

For C3 it's the same

They never spawn in front of you

[vernal rose]

They spawn from the direction of your spawn which is always behind you

[queen field]

For D2 it's the same

^

[atomic escarp]

So it doesn't mark rooms or anything of the sort?

ok ty

[toxic crow]

is there anything will happen after the countdown for C3 end? will the countdown start again?

[fossil jetty]

no, nothing will happen, tho you will keep getting waves

[toxic crow]

alright, thank you

[velvet flower]

The door to extraction will open only when countdown reaches zero.

[charred plover]

I’ve got C3 and the rest of the Ds to do (except D1). Is C3 easier than all of the Ds? The constant alarm looks pretty hectic

[velvet flower]

C3 main, yes. But C3 has secondary, overload and PE and some of them are harder than some d main levels.

[last gust]

Bring a sniper sentry, and have someone with a sniper rifle or scattergun (preferably the person with the sniper sentry) who's on hybrid duty. If you're on hybrid duty, try to kill at least one hybrid from each wave using melee + main weapon to conserve ammo. Have the cell and turbine by the mother door before picking up the hisec. When you pick up the hisec, have hybrid person at the bulkhead door with sentry on the outside stairs while one person carries the hisec and the other two find the key. Hold hybrids until you have key and hisec out the bulkhead door, then have the hisec by the mother door and most recent hybrid wave dead before cracking the door. After killing the mother, complete the security scan, but clear the most recent hybrid wave and have hybrid duty person (and probably 1-2 others) outside the main bulkhead door before cracking the security door. Then have 1-2 people (including whoever has mines so they can set up for the blood door) handle the scout rooms and everything up until the blood door however they prefer (more people in the scout rooms will probably just make these rooms slower), with the people holding the hybrid waves coordinating to hold from 2 rooms back. Clear a last hybrid wave before plugging in the cell and hitting the blood door, then pretty much just run.

[molten tree]

hey new blood here, any beginner advice?

[hexed vapor]

Express some amount of agency.

[hidden lynx]

@molten tree always take your time, always take stealth as the first option

and never feel afraid to ask questions

if you require advice on combatting sleepers and their variants, help with tactics on levels, etc, we can assist

weapons, etc.

[molten tree]

I was thinking of going with a sniper /biotracker , since i know my bud is a bit more gun hoe.

Good choice?

[hidden lynx]

snipers are excellent for killing higher value targets or for clearing a room of a scout / giant as necessary.

biotrackers are useful, though if you know the map fairly well, it may not be necessary.

for deeper missions, such as D3, not taking a biotracker is suicidal

note biotrackers can tag enemies on your hud when they move

if theyre not moving, only you can see them on the tracker

[tired star]

Can we go in with randoms and is it a good idea, or it's filled with people that messes around too much ?

[hidden lynx]

its more a worry of experience. people messing about is rare, funnily enough

@molten tree do remember to take a crowd controller with you since you like the sniper. the assault rifle is a good choice as a primary crowd controller

[last gust]

tools are OP, learn to use them effectively

[fallow wasp]

Has anyone else here rebound keys for their weapons?

I don’t know if it was TF2, but something has conditioned me into pressing 3 for my melee

[atomic escarp]

try looking in your settings

it might be there

[tall kraken]

we're holding the reactor in D1 but the terminal became unusable after the 4th wave and is still unusable after we restarted checkpoint
is this intentional or are we just screwed?

[queen field]

bug

[velvet flower]

Just another long lasting bug.

[tall kraken]

so is the only fix to restart the mission entirely and hope it doesn't happen again?

or anything else we can do?

[velvet flower]

According to previous rundown experience, having any one of your player reconnects can fix it.

Not the host ofc.

[hard horizon]

knife top notch fastest stealth

i dont even need to crouch

[sharp merlin]

I too don't play D2

[hexed vapor]

Most of your wait time in stealth is waiting on glows, not charging your melee.

It's a crutch, through and through.

[digital dawn]

Ok but it looks cooler than the other weapons tho

[calm coral]

anyone got some tips for D4 surge error phase?

[nocturne flax]

Auto sentry

[digital dawn]

try to trap alot of enemies behind you and throw foam nades at every single door behind you

[calm coral]

alright fair

[regal thicket]

perma foam the big door

ezpz

[nocturne flax]

big door?

oh i read that wrong kekw

i tought he meant the first surge alarm

[regal thicket]

same

[nocturne flax]

yeah just perma foam lol

[regal thicket]

also if someone nicked a 4 or 6 use tool before first teleport

then kinda cring

[calm coral]

man I love having an unresponsive lobby and having to start all over again

or people teleporting to closed zones

sheesh

[glass surge]

im about to face off with the big bad boys, gimme some F

[brittle light]

no need for F's if you don't die :)

[glass surge]

lmao true but this is the first time ive done it

[glass surge]

ya it didnt go well

the amount of floaters were insane

[brittle light]

C1, giant room --> 6-scout room --> 2nd datacore?

Or which mission?

[grizzled ravine]

hm?

[grave abyss]

Which mission

[candid dragon]

you guys use the word crutch more than doctors

[grave abyss]

After trying D2 right side. C1 feels like childplay to me.

Frickin mommy doors

[grizzled ravine]

Dark zone mommy can be a little tenuous. The other one is just hunt her down immediately and she dies.\

[brittle light]

@royal lichen w h a t.

[royal lichen]

dm'ed our chickens* tactic for d2 main, nevermind :)

[brittle light]

yey

[frail elbow]

Last time we left dark mom alone. Did multi scout room last after shutting the fog off

[brittle light]

that seems to be the strat everyone's doing

[royal lichen]

not many cf grens on the level afair, we mightve found 1

hence the launcher% and change of strat

[sharp ice]

Why is C1

Just why

Please

||i dont want to deal with 12 big strikers and then 6 scouts in 1 room||

[mossy marsh]

Cwhy

[queen field]

5*

not 6

😳

No need to use spoilers in the spoiler channel btw

[sharp ice]

M

Ok

[mossy marsh]

it's honestly pretty easy to deal with the scout waves

[sharp ice]

We thought there were 6

But like

[pallid jackal]

Its fun

[mossy marsh]

just gotta make sure to exclusive hold them in the scout zone

[sharp ice]

WHY SO MANY STRIKERS

[pallid jackal]

Much fun

[queen field]

cuz funnee

[mossy marsh]

cause f you

[queen field]

you have shitton of resources in that level

[pallid jackal]

There's a solution shot em

[queen field]

you could trigger everything & still have enough to do the last alarm

[mossy marsh]

devs hate fun

[pallid jackal]

Hahaha

[mossy marsh]

last alarm has a fuck ton of resources

[sharp ice]

The door to the big striker room opened before we were done in the room before so 8 of them woke up and came for us

[pallid jackal]

Yes the big hole

[left cargo]

So personally bonking scouts I don’t think is hard lol you can even run into their feelers and still have like 2 secs to kill it. But u could foam them

[sharp ice]

And then we got jumpscared by the last 4

[pallid jackal]

Im happy that i don't have to do those levels anymore

[left cargo]

C1 is fun

[pallid jackal]

C1 and D1 is just to much till the end

[left cargo]

I thought that way about d4 lol

[sharp ice]

I only play with 1 other person, so the big striker room was impossible to do without going loud

[left cargo]

Nope just take turns

[real moss]

you can duo big strikers

[left cargo]

Beating limbs off

[pallid jackal]

Sneak i have

[left cargo]

You can solo fr just about timing

[real moss]

some timing involved but it is not that bad

[pallid jackal]

Stress i endured

[sharp ice]

Oh, i thought it took all 4 people to take a biggie out

[left cargo]

3 insta kill

But just alternate hits to keep staggering

[pallid jackal]

Don't really need 4 people for giant

It can easily be dealt with 2 people

[left cargo]

Or find yellow syringes and use the knife lol

[pallid jackal]

Yes

Shank him to death

[real moss]

basically hit the limbs for the stagger, alternate between you two and he will go down stealthily

[pallid jackal]

Yes

[sharp ice]

Ok, my only problem with the room now is that i have two CPUs on my team that’ll probably shoot em like dumbasses

[left cargo]

Start with back of head while he still asleep for max input dmg

Yes but they won’t wake up rooms

[pallid jackal]

Play with people not bots

[left cargo]

Actually they will melee if they close enough

Prob die lol

[sharp ice]

My friend doesnt like people

[pallid jackal]

Mmm thats a shame

[left cargo]

Wonder how u came to be his friend then lol

[pallid jackal]

Was about to ask that

[sharp ice]

I brought the HEL gun to C1 and it seemed to stagger on every shot, so we didnt have that hard of a time

[left cargo]

But yeah just take turns smashing his body parts off. And hel gun op

[pallid jackal]

Id rather conserve ammo then waste it

[left cargo]

You woulda like the hel rifle. One shots chargers

[sharp ice]

The real problem was when my friend tried to stab one of the 5 scouts in the back of the head (alone) and ended up poking it in the back

[pallid jackal]

I see guns as a last resort or if necessary

[sharp ice]

You can imagine how that went

[left cargo]

Spear or knife?

[sharp ice]

Spear

[left cargo]

Ah if you go with him u both can hit it

[sharp ice]

Yeah, he didnt say anything, i was too baffled by the fact there were 5 scouts

[left cargo]

Just be within a second of each other

Take foam

[sharp ice]

Wait, will foam freeze them?

[left cargo]

Ya

[sharp ice]

[left cargo]

Few squirts. Like 5

[pallid jackal]

6

[sharp ice]

I had a cfoam nade on me

[left cargo]

Pretty overkill but will work lol

[light lagoon]

That area gives you like 4-5 C-Foam nades pretty regularly, though I tend to hold onto them just to help with later.

[sharp ice]

Yeah, i was wondering why there were so many

[left cargo]

That was the checkpoint door too I think

After tho scouts

[light lagoon]

I don't think it is.

[sharp ice]

No, it’s just a no alarm cluster in that room

[pallid jackal]

I don't remember

[left cargo]

Oh door after cp?

[light lagoon]

IIRC There's two checkpoints on C1, the first is after the first datacube and the second is the Warden door after the second.

[pallid jackal]

Yeah you don't have to kill scouts but you can

[left cargo]

I know there’s one before the pit I though scout room led to it

No you must

For the sake of bonking scouts

[light lagoon]

^

[pallid jackal]

Yes i killed them all

[left cargo]

Always

No scout left untouched

[pallid jackal]

Yeah the warden door is the checkpoint door

[light lagoon]

(Or more realistically: I remember some people saying you could get teleported back into the Scouts)

[pallid jackal]

With no scouts?

[sharp ice]

I would rather have 4 Cfoam nades on a whole player team and then any scouts we don’t cfoam get a nice big anti material round through their big spiky head

[pallid jackal]

Because it didn't happen to me and i died quite a lot in C1 with the moving scan

[left cargo]

I think d1 or d4 maybe can’t remember. But 2 scouts behind checkpoint door and they insta trigger for some reason lol

[sharp ice]

The cluster scans are spooky, so bringing artifacts to speed up scans are pretty op

[pallid jackal]

Ah i think i know what you mean

Its D1 if your not careful enough

[light lagoon]

IIRC You're teleported from where you're standing, so if someone is still in the room with the Scouts and someone picks up the datacube,

[left cargo]

I’d save those for surges lol

[light lagoon]

once you teleport back that other person will reappear in the room with the Scouts.

[sharp ice]

That would be my worst nightmare

[pallid jackal]

Oh wait your talking about something else

[light lagoon]

Atleast that's my understanding of it.

[left cargo]

Sounds like d4

[pallid jackal]

What level is this

[light lagoon]

C1 Was what Beef Jam was talking about originally no?

[sharp ice]

Yes

[pallid jackal]

Ah yes C1

[sharp ice]

C1 and it’s mass amount of trolling

[left cargo]

Why would someone be in the scout room when someone grabs cube tho 😂

[pallid jackal]

That didn't happen once to me and my team

Welp number one why stay in scout room

[light lagoon]

I dunno, but I've seen some stupid stuff happen.

[left cargo]

I could see it on d4 tho everyone’s just running lol

[pallid jackal]

Lmao same here

I wish there was a specate mode to see what your teamates are doing

[light lagoon]

Like, on my team's first run (and somehow, our actual completion) of D1, after slogging through the whole thing.

[pallid jackal]

I feel like D1 is just welp its hard to explain

[light lagoon]

One of my teammates walked into a sleeping Striker in that first big room, then failed to kill it and triggered the whole damn thing. And then in the midst of that, my other teammate ran into the respawn room and alerted all of them as well.

[left cargo]

Hmmm I haven’t done d1 in awhile I wanna try it without turning fog off lol

[pallid jackal]

It took sometime for me to beat it

[light lagoon]

So y'know, I've seen stupid stuff.

[pallid jackal]

Haha

[light lagoon]

I could imagine someone close to the door that opens in that Scout room just running in and grabbing the cube while someone else might've been still in the room, that's so lax in comparison.

[left cargo]

First cube in d4 I was sprinting and ran into a giant in the infested room lol

Luckily I had a grenade on me and we hammered it rq

[pallid jackal]

Oh lord infested room

[left cargo]

Might have been a wipe lol

[sharp ice]

[pallid jackal]

Ah can't wait to play again

Still need to get internet

[left cargo]

Hot spot

[pallid jackal]

No

[pallid jackal]

Data ain't free in Australia

[light lagoon]

I was so glad that that D1 Thing didn't result in a wipe somehow. I was so done at that point.

[pallid jackal]

It is expensive

[sharp ice]

Merv, would you like to help me and my friend?

[left cargo]

Damn prob faster than ur internet tho

[sharp ice]

(Same here)

[light lagoon]

Redoing D1 Solo was nowhere near as painful.

(Solo with bots for reference I realise I should've clarified that)

[pallid jackal]

Once i have internet my good friend

[sharp ice]

Hell yeah :)

[pallid jackal]

Im currently on mobile data on my phone so it saddens me not to have internet

Everything so expensive

[left cargo]

I haven’t played rundown 6 in a hot minute fr

[pallid jackal]

810$ for starlink

[sharp ice]

I know how it feels to be with only data

[pallid jackal]

Yep

And im sometimes bored as fuck

I just realized this is a spoiler chat for gtfo 😂😂

[glass surge]

I surprisingly found D1 to be more okay than C1 but that might just be the first time trauma of the big striker room talking

Except for the boss, man was that painful

[pallid jackal]

Now that was fun i just loved shooting

[glass surge]

I went as a duo with two bots, we got overwhelmed by the sheer amount of floaters by the third and fourth weakpoint

[light lagoon]

My team wiped once on C1 And came close a second time without actually really messing up or anything at all, meanwhile we beat D1 On our first attempt with a colossal screw-up right before the end. So yeah, I think D1 Is easier than C1 Personally.

D1 Felt longer to actually push through though.

[left cargo]

My first d1 with no sniper lol

[paper harness]

C1 error will be more difficult if you're doing first time but if you replay it I think it'll be a lot easier

[paper harness]

Lmao trying to scattergun the boss gang

[left cargo]

Long time shooting

😂

[light lagoon]

Honestly from soloing (with bots) C1 Twice since, the error is the only part of the level I actually consider threatening.

And that's mostly just because.. bots, please stop phasing through the bloody doors back into the room I just closed.

[paper harness]

ah yes the bots standing in front of the giant charger blood door embracing death

[glass surge]

Ya i think we wiped like twice as a duo with bots on the giant sneaking room

Then we acquired another squaddie, messed up the giant room, and ended up blasting our way through because we got lucky to not get caught in the melee swing

Then we wiped another time in the last room but that was just bad luck

[pallid jackal]

You mean hentai monsters

[glass surge]

Yes exactly

They completely violated us in every which way

[pallid jackal]

Yes

[left cargo]

Fook I need new content lol

Guess I’m gonna hammer and pistol only the story

[proven yarrow]

thoughts on if i should do c2 or d1 first?

[queen field]

Preserve your sanity & do D1

[proven yarrow]

is c2 tht bad?

[solemn wigeon]

C2 is the best level this rundown

[hidden lynx]

c2 requires many brain cells if youre new to it

[solemn wigeon]

It needs 1

[proven yarrow]

i mean, this is the first rundown for me and my friends and im the only one who looks into spoilers and such

[solemn wigeon]

Just do C2 Main for now

Come back to C2 Secondary when you are better

[proven yarrow]

we havent even doen b2 secondry yet

[solemn wigeon]

B2 Secondary drains you mentally

[proven yarrow]

it definitely was a surprise, we didnt spend a l0ot of time trying it though tbh

[solemn wigeon]

It's a joke once you bring foam#

[fallow delta]

Depends on how you look at it. Get 3 people who can shoot and 1 who knows what to do, and if no one dies, you should clear it

[proven yarrow]

none of us actually know what to do

we havent attempted it yet

[fallow delta]

Just do main in that case, trust me, you won't clear it unless you are really experienced

That way you learn the map

[proven yarrow]

what is in c2 that makes it so difficult

[fallow delta]

And checkpoints in C2 are really buggy, don't count on them

Endless waves of || hybrids || coming at you till you finish it from secondary

By itself it is not too difficult, problem is you"ll split up in 2 teams

And even if 1 guy dies in one of these teams, it can go downhill fast

[proven yarrow]

hm maybe ill just tell them its buggy from what ive heard

[fallow delta]

Just checkpoint is

[proven yarrow]

also, the 1st mission in each level re the only story levels right?

we rely on checkpoints

[left cargo]

Yes but there’s lore in other missions

[fallow delta]

Ah.. i'd get out of that habbit.

Checkpoints are fairly buggy

[left cargo]

Cp become more scarce too

[fallow delta]

And if it wasn't for the new players and release, they'd probably not be in the game to begin with

[proven yarrow]

we have yet to experience a buggy checkpoint

[left cargo]

You will

[proven yarrow]

i believe it

well they can make levels harder by implementing checkpoints

[fallow delta]

Remember my word, learn to not expect them to work and you'll have a bette time

[left cargo]

Imagine the game

Harder

Without cp

[fallow delta]

^ that's what it has always been before this rundown

[proven yarrow]

damn

[fallow delta]

They made this one quite easier cause of many newcomers for 1.0 release

[left cargo]

I cleared r6 within a week

[velvet flower]

That's just ... R2/R4/R5

[left cargo]

Usually takes 1 month

[fallow delta]

Resources are everywhere

No R1?

That one was painfull at the start as many were newbies. Was so much fun

[left cargo]

R3 was great

R2 was pretty hard

[fallow delta]

Probably not hard by itself, but the lack of knowledge made it a lot harder

(R1)

[velvet flower]

Well, R1A1 is brutal for a new comer.

[mighty pond]

How?

[left cargo]

Really? I thought it was chill most scans had 1 defense door

[mighty pond]

It's honestly imo the easiest level they have ever released

[fallow delta]

This A1 is really easy, prob easier

[velvet flower]

foam-mine is not a meta back then

[left cargo]

This one is pretty cake

[fallow delta]

R1A1 was easy if you abused the mines and cfoam.. if you knew about it

[left cargo]

Did 7:30ish duo

[fallow delta]

Cfoam nades were everywhere

[mighty pond]

This A1 I could see an argument for being easier, I still think that R1A1 was the easiest thing they've released though.

[proven yarrow]

this a1 wasnt bad. i think my group cleared it pretty easily and we were all brand new

[velvet flower]

R6A1 is the first A1 has no scouts, right?

[left cargo]

Umm

[mighty pond]

Nah

[left cargo]

Idk I can’t remember r2 r4 I think r3 had 1 and r5 for sure had one

[mighty pond]

R2 had one in last zone you needed to go into for the obj

R4 had one in extreme, not along the main path

R3 had one in the key zone

So if you assume doing all objectives, then yes this would technically be the first

[left cargo]

Pretty sure there’s a mod for r1 i think

[mighty pond]

It however is not really the first without one, since R4 main technically does not have one

[velvet flower]

Besides, in R1A1 the extraction part can murder quite some new teams.

[mighty pond]

R1A1 evac was face forwards

and shoot

That was all you had to do

[proven yarrow]

is there way to go back and do old rundowns?

[left cargo]

Eh

[mighty pond]

Technically

[left cargo]

Dm lol

[velvet flower]

It's not allowed to discuss here.

[mighty pond]

You can just rollback steam files if you get access to them

[left cargo]

Discord link in rules or faq somewhere for unofficial mod community

[normal pelican]

what does the "noise level" / "low noise" mean for the Knife ? killing enemies next to each other still wake them

[pallid jackal]

No

Killing enemy next to enemy when both is glowing white will wake

But when enemy is next to other enemy and if is not glowing white it won't wake them

Where as a hammer doesn't give a shit it will wake up everything next it it if it hits flesh

[normal pelican]

I see, thanks

knife OP

[last gust]

I like R6A1, but it could use a scout

[normal pelican]

actually they do wake

[solemn wigeon]

Ok who the fuck is saying the desert is called Red Alpha

[pallid jackal]

Because its a different planet

[pallid jackal]

Hasn't happened to me

[light lagoon]

Yeah though I don't know all the numbers and stuff, in my experience an enemy will always wake up if you kill another enemy next to them within like 4-5m.

[normal pelican]

I have a video but can't send anything in this server

[light lagoon]

Though it only ever seems to be one enemy and never two, even if you have three clumped up right next to each. I dunno though, haven't encountered any triples clumped up that close lately.

[solemn wigeon]

The log says that Red Alpha was a space mission to mars. Red alpha is the spaceship

This is unacceptable

[pallid jackal]

Eh

Red alpha is a different plannetr

Planet

If that squid thing was on earth all of the remaining humans would be dead on the surface

[solemn wigeon]

I'm not saying the desert is on earth

But red alpha was for Mars

[pallid jackal]

Welp maybe we are on mars

But it sure as fuck doesn't look like it

[solemn wigeon]

We cant survive in Mars

Also didn't red Alpha explode

[pallid jackal]

No

[solemn wigeon]

@soft loom

[glass surge]

It looked like it had atmosphere, after all we and the guys on expedition before us could breathe there

[pallid jackal]

Yes Hench its a different planet

[glass surge]

Ya either its a planet or dimension, but it sure as shit aint Mars

[pallid jackal]

Yep

[urban girder]

has anyone else come across the reactor not starting in D1?

we finished the whole sequence and killed the father but it still says to restart the reactor

[soft loom]

yes?

[brisk gyro]

just a ui bug, the reactor is done

[soft loom]

oh

it's not mars

it's a seperate planet

[urban girder]

so what do we do now? it doesnt tell us the next step

[brisk gyro]

go back to the big room with the fog downstairs, the door on the west should be open now

[urban girder]

ok thanks we'll check

[soft loom]

we are currently unsure if it's within our universe/dimension or if it's somewhere in another dimension

the properties of how we "teleport" are also unknown

[brisk gyro]

wave dashing gone horribly wrong

[urban girder]

you were right tyvm

[stuck vapor]

I'm sure this has been asked before but what is in the two side doors in the zone past the checkpoint door that are unlocked by doing the Secondary/Extreme objective in C3?

in zone 175

[dreamy bramble]

a cell in each

• resources

[stuck vapor]

wait you have to go outside of the extreme zone to get the cells for it?

[dreamy bramble]

that's the challenge :)

[stuck vapor]

that's evil

is there a list of spawn timings for c3?

[brittle light]

what's the difference between a diminished alarm and a normal one?

dimished only sends small ones?
only sends in smaller groups but more often??

like, what it do? There's a lot of em in the rundown and I haven't quite figured that out yet

[stuck vapor]

trickle vs. wave

[regal thicket]

smaller waves

[fallow wasp]

Sleepers called by diminished alarms don’t know proper FPS team strategy

Surge alarm sleepers are gamers

[hexed vapor]

"They can't kill all of us"

[brittle light]

do surges just instantly respawn when you kill one

or do they actually have ""waves""

[candid dragon]

Its pretty much instant

Which is why 2x auto sentry is pnice for d4

[sick hornet]

Its what, every 3 enemies they get replaced?

[unreal terrace]

d4 surge is just foam the doors till you finish scan

horrible room

[thick burrow]

or funnel them through a single door

with sentries

[unreal terrace]

killing anything at all during a surge seems meaningless tbh

[regal thicket]

then perish

[unreal terrace]

no, ill just foam the door and kill them when its over

[hexed vapor]

Surges function the same way error alarms do, but the "group" spawn timer is 1 second iirc.

So, as soon as there's enough space to spawn a group, it's in immediately.

[brittle light]

yikes.

thanks for that information, all of y'all

so, essentially, don't bother killing surges until the alarm is done. Whether that's cfoaming or kiting them around a bit

[fierce laurel]

no

you have to kill them

you have to make sure you're always clearing the wave as much as you can

or you're going to get overwhelmed

[brittle light]

I mean, if you can keep em foamed behind a door that's that

but if you can't, then kill as much as possible, yes

[pulsar zodiac]

but you gonna leave the scan to refoam

hence more c foam

[fierce laurel]

which scan are you talking about specifically

[pulsar zodiac]

prob D4 class 4

[fierce laurel]

if it's D4 then I would keep that door open

[brittle light]

D4 yea