gtfo-spoiler-chat

[granite lodge]

Yeah, tank the infection like the Tank tanks your bullets. All good. Lmao

[mighty quest]

Sure, but when you get equipment you should give it a try

[faint vapor]

but also you can teach them about fog with the alarm

does not need to be infectus

as an extra **** you

[pale yacht]

What do you mean?

[mighty quest]

Needs to be infectious to let them know fog sucks

[faint vapor]

fog sucks when you have to do scans in them

can't see shit

[pale yacht]

You can’t see enemies in an alarm.

[granite lodge]

Fog is bad... m'kay. You need to remember children... m'kay. That the fog will infect you... m'kay?

[pale yacht]

Rip.

[mighty quest]

When you throw fog repellers into fog the fog goes away. This game is pretty trial and error so I hope the first throw would be common sense after getting jnfected the first time

[pale yacht]

M’kay.

[granite lodge]

M'kay?

[faint vapor]

that is why I think they could have halved the infection rate

[mighty quest]

Throw fogs to get vision cause fog sucks

[granite lodge]

M'kay...

[mighty quest]

This game is pain

[granite lodge]

Lol

[pale yacht]

True. I guess it depends. I just meant that if A1 takes new players several attempts and over 45 minutes, imagine how long a level like B2 would take them.

[granite lodge]

I still miss the shotgun sentry

[pale yacht]

Same.

[charred badge]

who doesn't

[mighty quest]

There's also deep infection that gives 3% per second and light fog that gives like half a percent a second

[pale yacht]

They kinda made the sniper sentry useless other than D1.

[charred badge]

fr

burst is best

[mighty quest]

That's why I said the skill level is based and they need some practice. Just like any game.

[pale yacht]

Auto for stunning, burst for damage.

[granite lodge]

After so many rundowns of burst being trash it is now good and I'm so confused on why they even bothered. Lmao

[charred badge]

sniper for.... tool eating

[pale yacht]

Sniper for floaters on occasion.

[charred badge]

yuh yuh

[pale yacht]

I want a scattergun sentry.

[granite lodge]

What about a rocket launcher sentry. 😛

[pale yacht]

Why not?

[granite lodge]

Hey tank, eat this. Blows him the f up

[pale yacht]

Proceeds to place a scattergun sentry behind a mother

[mighty quest]

*shrapnel grenades not for the sleepers but for my friends :)

[charred badge]

unfortunately we will never get rocket launchers 😭😭😭

[pale yacht]

Or grenades.

That’d make it too easy.

[granite lodge]

You'd think with the giant shit we had to fight in D1 that there's be something to blow it the f up.

[mighty quest]

I'm waiting on a plasma rifle and doom guy cosmetic

[charred badge]

halo x gtfo 👀

I want an energy sword cosmetic

[granite lodge]

YES

[charred badge]

A GRAVITY HAMMER

[mighty quest]

Take a note out of RE3 and bring power cells to a rail gun

[granite lodge]

ENERGY SWORD melee weapon

[pale yacht]

Sonic the Hedgehog Movie 2 X GTFO

[charred badge]

holy fuck thatd be so epic

[mighty quest]

Load big ass rounds you have to carry with two people and the third guy has to aim

[charred badge]

get the halo reach DMR

[mighty quest]

Kind of like the last mission on halo reach hahaha

[pale yacht]

Perfect idea.

[charred badge]

lmao

[mighty quest]

Where you shot the carrier laser from glassing the pillar of autumn

[charred badge]

a scarab tank.... but made out of sleepers

[pale yacht]

We need large-scale sentries that are placed around the map for certain scans.

[charred badge]

that mission was so fun

[granite lodge]

The scarab actually counts as infantry believe it or not

[charred badge]

yuh that shit strong af

[mighty quest]

#security booths with stationary defenses where you can play hacking mini games to make alarm doors easier with botndefenses

[charred badge]

minus the heart that's very exposed

[granite lodge]

Ye

[charred badge]

God I miss halo 3

like, the new feeling of it

[granite lodge]

I miss halo 3 and gears of war 3 days

[charred badge]

good old 2007

you'll be missed

😭😭😭😭😭

[granite lodge]

Now we have to deal with nowadays shit

[mighty quest]

Did Calle change his name?

[charred badge]

depression

[granite lodge]

Can't even get a full game anymore on most occasions...

[mighty quest]

I can't @ him here

[pale yacht]

GTFO’s weapon design actually fed my 2000’s Halo nostalgia a lot.

[charred badge]

the HAR

reminds me of halo

assault rifle

[pale yacht]

The DMR reminds me of Halo too.

[mighty quest]

@broken scarab Calle can we get security booth hacking mini games for sentry turrets to help with alarm doors?

[pale yacht]

A lot.

[charred badge]

God i want the battle rifle back

[pale yacht]

All of the weapon’s scopes do.

[charred badge]

the end of halo 3 was so fuckin epic though

[granite lodge]

Honestly, with how much we damage enemies in GTFO it sucks we can't dismember them

Hell yeah

[charred badge]

I shoot their arms off all the time

[pale yacht]

I want RE2 Remake styled dismemberment.

[granite lodge]

And yet they are still there

[mighty quest]

Hacking minigames could also be supply rooms

[granite lodge]

when they melee

[pale yacht]

I bought the Master Chief Collection just for this campaign.

[charred badge]

ope lma9

[mighty quest]

Code doors

[charred badge]

I did too 😂

I love playing thru on legendary

it's so nostalgic

[granite lodge]

Halo 2 and 3 are godly

[charred badge]

also... the SOUNDTRACJ

the sound track was so good :(

[pale yacht]

Only played through each game’s campaign once, need to play through them again before starting Infinite’s.

Halo’s soundtrack is 13/10 will always remember.

[charred badge]

for real

[errant vigil]

Do you mean their tongues

[granite lodge]

I was mainly talking about giant's arms

Not sleepers

[mighty quest]

You technically can

[granite lodge]

but they are still there when the giant's melee

[mighty quest]

I wish I could make giants crawl by snapping their legs

[granite lodge]

YEAH!

[mighty quest]

That would be funny

Crawl you crippled bitch

[charred badge]

qhahahah

[granite lodge]

Instead they stay standing... like they aren't walking on just... bone...

[charred badge]

yes we need dismemberment

[errant vigil]

Used to have something similar

Was not good

[dreamy bramble]

r1c1 reactor kite :))

[errant vigil]

^

[charred badge]

lmao

[errant vigil]

It was cool just easily abused

[dreamy bramble]

i would love a fleshed out dismemberment system but with how the enemy cap works out in this game it would have to include a bleedout timer or something

[granite lodge]

Dude, I still remember R2B2 with the 'Land of Giants' where all the rooms at the start were full to the brim with giant enemies

Then it had the room with 4 Scouts XD

[charred badge]

lmaoo

classic

[granite lodge]

I miss that rundown so much

[errant vigil]

Yea it was hard for me then

Now it’s a cake walk

[charred badge]

I kinda miss r5

I never got to finish it all

[dreamy bramble]

r2e1 was so difficult for me lol

only got it like 10 days before r3

[granite lodge]

I really liked R2B2 because it really felt like it taught how important just being stealthy can be

Killing things just isn't necessary in some cases.

Before then it was, 'KILL EVERYTHING SILENTLY'

[errant vigil]

And a couple rundowns after it became just run around and hammer everything

[granite lodge]

Yep...

[dreamy bramble]

and now we just gun down everything cause there are 50% more ammo packs than you can reasonably consume

[granite lodge]

Yeah, kinda defeated the purpose entirely of gtfo. Now it's spray and pray in many cases.

Wanna pull this room? We already pulled every other room and there's still 7 packs of ammo.

[errant vigil]

True

Both ways make gtfo not gtfo

[granite lodge]

Adding more ammo packs on a level with infinite error alarm that cannot be stopped on a level that lasts a hour, makes sense, how it is now, not really.

[dreamy bramble]

i'll give c3 and d3 a pass because they're meant to be fast paced run and gun levels

but levels like d4 could just have 30% of ammo deleted and still be very reasonable

[granite lodge]

If I remember correctly, R3C2 was like that but it didn't even have extra ammo packs despite needed to cross the entire map for 7 ID's

[pale yacht]

I think it’s specifically this Rundown. I don’t remember having this many recourses in previous Rundown levels (minus the run and guns). I guess they wanted to start us off easy with the full release.

[dreamy bramble]

yeah that's for sure

[pale yacht]

Hopefully the extension ramps things up..

[dreamy bramble]

though i wonder if it's just going to reinforce bad habits in future rundowns

[granite lodge]

That's the problem, it will reinforce bad habits

[pale yacht]

I’m sure any newer players will develop habits. It’ll force them to relearn the entire game next Rundown.

[charred badge]

it'll force people to get better

[granite lodge]

Why do anything else if we can shoot our way through like a generic shooter

Or quit

[charred badge]

i hope r7 is just impossibly difficult lmao

just for fun

[pale yacht]

It also wouldn’t make sense if they from something like A1 to C3 in only a level or two though.

[pale yacht]

Same.

[charred badge]

A1 has 3 scout rooms, 10 giants, low supplies and 3 alarm doors

with high extreme and overload

[granite lodge]

Honestly, I just like the bulkhead idea being the difficulty maker

[pale yacht]

This Rundown?

[crisp quiver]

i can't really say that my friend and I have found a huge amount of ammo packs so far, but we also have only done A1 and B1 so that probably clouds our experience

[charred badge]

nono, what i hope for r7

[pale yacht]

^

[viral storm]

Honestly some levels like E1 some rundowns ago was cool idea imo

[dreamy bramble]

bulkheads feel like they're used pretty well this rundown tbh

[granite lodge]

Yep

[pale yacht]

Ohhhh. I can imagine there being scouts and few resources.

[charred badge]

they're so scarce

[dreamy bramble]

besides maybe d2 they play well

[errant vigil]

B2 secondary is cringe

[charred badge]

only bad part of A1 is the 2 giants that freak newbies out

[pale yacht]

After B1, shit hits the fan.

[charred badge]

after C1*

[pale yacht]

That’s when the game starts to get hard.

[neat sluice]

They heavily nerfed kitting with the stamina bar, and one of the main concerns of players was that it was going to be too hard. They wanted players to shoot instead of kite so they just added more ammo lol

[dreamy bramble]

b2 is boring but unfortunately a necessary tutorial unless they add another level

[pale yacht]

Nah, because B2 introduces fog.

[thick burrow]

and uplinks

[dreamy bramble]

^^^

[pale yacht]

And uplinks on extreme.

Yeye.

[granite lodge]

Maybe make a new scout, I kinda liked an idea someone had previous with the 'Watcher'. A scout enemy but instead it's stationary with a rotating eye that emits a red light circling the room. If you step into the light it goes off but it is completely deaf. Can only be set off through touch or stepping into the light.

[errant vigil]

It’s just zone 224 that’s cringe

[thick burrow]

another scout variant

[errant vigil]

@nocturne flax you’re cringe

[pale yacht]

What if we get an enemy that can climb onto walls and stuff?

[granite lodge]

That'd be cool too

[thick burrow]

the immortal smile

[crisp quiver]

just make the whole level an enemy

flesh walls

shoot the whole level

melee doors

[pale yacht]

That’d scare the hell out of anyone. Imagine getting jumped on from the fucking ceiling.

[errant vigil]

[pale yacht]

Exactly.

[thick burrow]

el hombre de caca 224

[viral storm]

Thoughts about bots literally gun shooting and noclipping through walls

[charred badge]

i think its fine

bots doing bot things

[crisp quiver]

i wish i could do it

[viral storm]

ikr

[neat sluice]

Depends for whom 👀

[viral storm]

shooting sleepers and not alarming any

[crisp quiver]

bots are the true players

[dreamy bramble]

bots are so fucking funny lol

[crisp quiver]

wejust posers

[viral storm]

like 1 bot in the team might be bis at this point

[errant vigil]

Kiting is still a cake walk ngl

[dreamy bramble]

they'll light up shadow waves no ping easily then lose a 1v1 with a giant across the room

[crisp quiver]

bot shoots a sleeper with a shotgun, other sleepers about to wake up, bot shouts "GO THE FUCK BACK TO SLEEP", sleepers behave and slep

[charred badge]

yknow what i found out yesterday?

scout EMP thingys push away fog 👀

never noticed it before

[neat sluice]

Try doing circle kiting or a long kite across the entire map to revive your team. Gl

[errant vigil]

Oh circle kite is gone I will agree there

Long kite isn’t

[charred badge]

long kite def not

[pale yacht]

Kiting is boring anyway.

[charred badge]

^

time wasting simulator

[neat sluice]

Long kiting is still doable but its heavily nerfed. It can't be the jerk solution to every problem anymore

[charred badge]

A1 you can long kite on

[thick burrow]

just use door manipulation

[tawdry elbow]

Circle kite was the main problem anyways, long kite often just boils down to using the environment and doors

[charred badge]

^

[tawdry elbow]

Which is honestly acceptable

[pale yacht]

Much harder with a limited amount of sprint.

[charred badge]

nah not too abd

bad

[neat sluice]

Yeah, but thats still not as versatile as long kite used to be

[charred badge]

on A1 class 3 alarm its easy af

[pale yacht]

Is it true that crouching makes it recover faster?

[charred badge]

yes

[tawdry elbow]

Difference is you don’t have enough stamina to dodge every 5 seconds and not use the environment to long kite

[pale yacht]

True.

Bet.

[neat sluice]

Exactly lol

[thick burrow]

it doesn't recover it, it just makes it drain slower

it's only efficient with a low pulse to begin with

anything above 120 you're better off walking

[pale yacht]

Got it. Wasn’t sure because all kinds of people were telling me that it regenerated stamina faster.

[viral storm]

Oh yeah I've only seen it but don't really know what it does, when you get your pulse to like 180+ it goes yellow, what about it

to you lose health or some shit

[charred badge]

you dont lose health

its an adrenaline shot basically

no sprint but a lil extra melee damage

[viral storm]

oh I see

[neat sluice]

If you stand still and crouch, yeah I think it does regenerate it faster.

[charred badge]

^

[neat sluice]

I could be wrong tho

[charred badge]

no youre right

far as im aware

[pale yacht]

It’s probably not that much faster anyway.

[neat sluice]

Its noticeable .-.

Much faster if you ask me

Just try it yourself lol

[pale yacht]

I will. I always do but I just never look at the pulse unless it’s over 100.

[neat sluice]

Wait what

[pale yacht]

I think he’s talking about when the bar glows yellow.

[charred badge]

the yellow bar at like 180 heart rate

[neat sluice]

Extra melee dmg?

[charred badge]

a little, im pretty sure

like an adrenaline shot

[pale yacht]

It’s like taking a stim shot.

[charred badge]

IIX syringe

[neat sluice]

Interesting

[charred badge]

not 100% confirmed tho

cause i dont usually get to 180 lmao

[viral storm]

Sprint jump and charge weapon, easy way to hit 180 fast :^)

[neat sluice]

Yeah fair, I take it with a grain of salt dw :p

[tawdry elbow]

That’s interesting, if that’s true that makes for some interesting plays

[charred badge]

yuh

[pale yacht]

I had no clue charging melee increases your pulse.

Dang.

[charred badge]

it doesnt i dont think

at least not with knife

[viral storm]

Haven't tried myself cuz don't want to troll my team but any ways to kill scout with the knife

[charred badge]

no

its not supposed to

[pale yacht]

Nah. Knives don’t do it.

[charred badge]

sometimes it can bug if you hit the back of the head

but dont try it

[pale yacht]

They don’t charge fast enough for a second hit.

[charred badge]

its getting patched anyway

[neat sluice]

Back of the head, I've seen teammates do it

[sick hornet]

It’s supposed to, back of the head

[charred badge]

no it isnt

devs confirmed

[tawdry elbow]

I can do it consistently

[sick hornet]

It not working is bugged hitboxes

[tawdry elbow]

Ye

[charred badge]

green red himself said

[sick hornet]

Where

[charred badge]

knife isnt supposed to kill scouts

[neat sluice]

But it does

[charred badge]

idk which channel

it isnt supposed to thoug

thats what im saying

[neat sluice]

Yeah xd

[thick burrow]

#gtfo-speed-running message

[pale yacht]

If it works, it works.

[neat sluice]

I don't recommend it anyways lmao

[sick hornet]

Why not, it does enough damage

[thick burrow]

they'll patch it

[pale yacht]

Just like the spear’s lasting hit box.

Rip spear hit box. Without it it’ll be bad.

[neat sluice]

Don't try it unless you're a veteran player who can shit on every level imo

[tawdry elbow]

I dont think there’s any way damage could be bugged to give higher than 2x positional multiplier, so if people can kill with knife without stim it’s definitely possible

[sick hornet]

Its not a bug, its something unintentionally added, if you look at the numbers it does plenty of damage

[pale yacht]

^

[charred badge]

in gtfo chat

look

[sick hornet]

The bug is back multiplier being broken so sometimes it doesnt work

I looked at the message doc sent, theres a difference between it not being a scout weapon and it being able to kill scouts

[tawdry elbow]

The statement implies the intent not reality

I hope they dont patch it though

Only reason i wouldnt pick knife is for ability to kill scouts

[viral storm]

It's likely to be patched

[neat sluice]

Weapons need to be balanced

[tawdry elbow]

Yeah as per Doc’s msg

[sick hornet]

If they do change knife and dont want to nerf it into the ground they would have to remove back multiplier on it or scouts

[neat sluice]

They say it might be due to a bug

[tawdry elbow]

I’d prefer the latter

[sick hornet]

Its not due to a bug

It just does enough damage

Unless the bug is them typing the wrong number

[neat sluice]

They said its inconsistent due to a bug

[tawdry elbow]

The bug is when you don’t do enough damage

[sick hornet]

Yea, the back multiplier bug

[tawdry elbow]

2x base damage of knife is enough to kill

Positional damage is calculated using relative position of player

[neat sluice]

Fair fair

[tawdry elbow]

I don’t think it’s the formula itself but rather how the angle is measured

[sick hornet]

Yea

Idk what they did but it seems it’s rotated like 30-60 degrees

[tawdry elbow]

Interestingly enough someone notified me of the actual formula for calculating the positional multi today

Idk if this counts as datamining but the formula predicts a positional multiplier between 1 and 2 to the sides of enemies

fun fact because im sitting in a waiting lobby and bored lol

[mossy yoke]

i'm literally telling you that when we designed the role for knife, we intended for it to not be able to kill scouts.

The fact it can kill scouts is the bug

There's a separate bug about melee damage multipliers not working correctly, which could explain why the knife can sometimes kill scouts.

We're going to fix the melee damage multi, because it's important to fix that bug. I'm not the one who balances the melee weapons, so who knows what'll happen after that bug gets fixed, but currently, the role of knife is to not be able to kill scouts

[nocturne flax]

y'all tripping

if you fix the melee back multi it will malke it so it can reliably kill scouts tho

[mossy yoke]

maybe, in which case we'll look at that once we fix the bug

[nocturne flax]

all melees should kill the most basic stealth streat tbh

been occi or front hs

but thats just my opinion

food for thought

[mossy yoke]

which has been thought internally

[neat sluice]

Meh, its okay for not every weapon to be able to kill scouts. It forces the team to diversify weapons

[boreal tendon]

quite the opposite, it removes some diversity

[crisp quiver]

why use a weapon that can't kill everything?

[charred badge]

bc knife OP

[regal thicket]

this but unironically

[nocturne flax]

it doesnt diversify tho

[charred badge]

if you dont like the knife.... just dont use it??????

[nocturne flax]

just look at everyone running hammer and spear

lel

[charred badge]

its so simple

[nocturne flax]

those weapon can reliably kill a scout

[charred badge]

idk why yall find the need to just complain about every damn thing

[crisp quiver]

there need to be reasons to use things though, not just "i like the knife"

[charred badge]

have you used the knife

its dope af

[regal thicket]

rip the people who model and animate it

[nocturne flax]

should make it so bat and knife can atleast kill with occi, so it atleast take some skill

[crisp quiver]

yes, only the knife so far actually

[tawdry elbow]

the knife is just a faster pre-r6 hammer of you’re precise

[charred badge]

its fuckin awesome for clearing a lot of enemies

[charred badge]

exactly

[tawdry elbow]

in terms of regular enemies

[fallow delta]

If knife killed scouts it would easily be the best weapon, giants aside.

[charred badge]

thats why i love it

[neat sluice]

The knife is very scary in the hands of a vet player with high accuracy

[crisp quiver]

are we talking using it in stealth or during engagement?

[charred badge]

i can clear like 8 enemies within seconds

[nocturne flax]

we know

[charred badge]

stealth or engagement

[nocturne flax]

but we talking about scouts

[charred badge]

engagement with knife is so fun

[neat sluice]

Both

[crisp quiver]

no weapon is different during stealth lol

it's why it's stealth

[fallow delta]

It is..

[neat sluice]

Mostly engagement

[nocturne flax]

every melee function fast in the hands of a good player

[charred badge]

yes it is

[nocturne flax]

thats a given

[neat sluice]

Looool

[charred badge]

so then knife being bad is just a

.t skill issue

[jaunty hedge]

I'm sure you're reading this wondering what the tag does. Well, grab a 🪑 and sit down while I tell you. This command is to tell you that you're doing good. Keep at it. ||Keep trying and never give up, because we're no strangers to love.. We're no strangers to love. You know the rules and so do I. A full commitment's what I'm thinking of. You wouldn't get this from any other guy. I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling. Gotta make you understand. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. We've known each other for so long. Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it. Inside we both know what's been going on. We know the game and we're gonna play it. And if you ask me how I'm feeling. Don't tell me you're too blind to see. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.||

[nocturne flax]

but the point is that not having knife occiput a scout its actuallt detrimental

[fallow delta]

Different charge times just to tell you one @crisp quiver

[crisp quiver]

ok? it's stealth

you are not under pressure

[fallow delta]

Then i'll add knife has stealth multi and apparently it's quieter

[nocturne flax]

the basic scout should be able to be killed by all melees

[charred badge]

it is quieter

[charred badge]

no

[fallow delta]

Faster charge times allow to kill bigger clusters alone @crisp quiver

[nocturne flax]

all other variants cannot be killed anyways and require teamwork

[tawdry elbow]

im not sure how it could be detrimental given everything discussed

[charred badge]

the knife is well balanced

[nocturne flax]

never said it isnt

[fallow delta]

That alone gives you a bigger stealth potential, with everything else i said

[tawdry elbow]

the more different melee roles are the greater the reason to pick between them

[charred badge]

thats exactly what youre implying

[nocturne flax]

i didnt imply that

[charred badge]

you said knife should kill scouts

[nocturne flax]

sure

[charred badge]

its not supposed to

[fallow delta]

If i see a cluster of 3 as a sledge, i am like "ah damn"

[nocturne flax]

its does

but should made reliabel

[charred badge]

not consistently

[fallow delta]

Doable but i'll struggle

[nocturne flax]

and them chaning it to not kill a scout its bad

[neat sluice]

Optimal play with knife means you can kill roughly twice as much as the hammer

[charred badge]

thats where the implication comes from. its not supposed to kill scouts mate

[nocturne flax]

you really trust docred

[charred badge]

yes

[nocturne flax]

the man who actively fucks up

[charred badge]

we all fuck up

[crisp quiver]

hm,ok i can see that being a situation where different weapons perform different during stealth

[nocturne flax]

more than anybody

[charred badge]

youre no exception

[nocturne flax]

ok buddy

[charred badge]

you're pickin a fight for no reason

do u not have anything better to do than complain about a game?

[nocturne flax]

i can go a get a compilation of him

[regal thicket]

🍿

[nocturne flax]

just fucking up over and over

[charred badge]

give us one of you fucking up too

no bias here

[nocturne flax]

I have

[neat sluice]

The more you do advanced stealth strats, the more you'll see the diff.

[nocturne flax]

go look at my channel

you will see me dying

you will see me missing

you will see me saying dumb shit

[charred badge]

so dont get mad at doc for making mistakes

[fallow delta]

It"s common sense anyhow that knife shouldn't get scouts.

[nocturne flax]

im a open book

[charred badge]

then be openly accepting of others mistakes mate

[neat sluice]

If you just crouch and wait long they all perform the same sure. But in harder levels people don't do that lol

[gilded meadow]

i’ve been sitting here reading the whole thing, closest thing to the GTFO movie

[charred badge]

😂

[nocturne flax]

sure, mistakes

if you only knew

[regal thicket]

this is the next best thing since kiting got "nerfed"

[charred badge]

ah right hes changing things out of spite now

doing it to fuck up your life specifically mate

[fallow delta]

Mmh..

[crisp quiver]

can we have a gun that shoots knives?

[charred badge]

that'd be epic

[gilded meadow]

I just imagine a blockbuster GTFO film and they’re sitting at the entrance to a room with a scout, then they argue for the rest of the film about melee weapons roll credits

[charred badge]

i would watch that so much

[nocturne flax]

can we have back multi fix so i can occi a scout properly

[fallow delta]

Cracked a laugh.

[charred badge]

no

[neat sluice]

They working on it

[nocturne flax]

i know

im taking the piss on him

[charred badge]

nasty

[regal thicket]

can i get occi multiplier back so i can do funny things like dmring or pistoling scouts

[nocturne flax]

cuz it already does mathematically

[fallow delta]

Pistoling scouts? @regal thicket

[gilded meadow]

the chad miss your melee and hit a metal bar next to the scout alerting the whole room

[nocturne flax]

scatter gun everything

[fallow delta]

Is that even doable.

[nocturne flax]

i wanna scattergun the d1 homeboy

i wanna see how many shots it would take lmao

[fallow delta]

Nvm you can't with pistol

[gilded meadow]

yes, the scattergun literally does everything, it even cooked me dinner last night and tucked me in, fr though the scattergun one shots most stuff except for a few thing?

[fallow delta]

I wanna scatter a player

[charred badge]

scattergun fucked my mom 😢

[nocturne flax]

that happens on a everyday basis

[regal thicket]

you can pre r6

you can even do it with ar and other shenanigans

[fallow delta]

Math wise it doesn't add up

[nocturne flax]

I wish they didnt added the scattergun even tho its fun as hell

[fallow delta]

Unless you can shoot 2 bullets

[regal thicket]

i applaud the bug hunters

you can lol

just shoot faster at occi

[nocturne flax]

hot

[fallow delta]

How so? Doesn't it scream asap?

[regal thicket]

no?

[fallow delta]

Uh

Well damn. Need to go try smth new out

[gilded meadow]

man idk if i’d ever get into the math of gtfo, me and my buddies just walk up to something big and scary and we just go, “can we stealth it in one go with our melees?” moments later i am back handed by a big striker , maybe i should do my research

[charred badge]

numbers are boring

i just learn by trial n error

[nocturne flax]

Something i can agree

[charred badge]

cause fuck math

[nocturne flax]

you never gonna pull those numbers ever in this game

[fallow delta]

Guess who has math

[nocturne flax]

kill efficiency etc

never

[regal thicket]

i don't think you can do it with most of the main anymore

[fallow delta]

Behold

The chart

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2NTp4/edit#gid=196815589

[regal thicket]

or maybe it's just a skill issue

[nocturne flax]

is that ereggia chart

[regal thicket]

cuz i killed scouts with har a few times

[nocturne flax]

he a OG

[regal thicket]

it's pretty funny to do

[fallow delta]

No clue about who made it

[tawdry elbow]

don’t focus on numbers, most of the people here are vets who are min-maxing, the greatest joy of gtfo comes from not knowing everything

[gilded meadow]

i think it’s good to know what’ll reliably kill something instantly, should probably look into specifics about enemies too. i started in r5 and i’m just intermediate at the game. saw a tank for the first time in D1 and couldn’t figure out what to do, same with hybrids

[fallow delta]

Keep it that way

Most fun imo

[charred badge]

joy comes from fuckin shit up and smackin heads

[gilded meadow]

true honestly, i’m just trying to get better, haven’t been able to complete anything besides all the 1’s and b2 : /

might lfg for some experienced people to impart their knowledge on me

[fallow delta]

Ah ye, lfg works wonders

[nocturne flax]

You dont really have to know the numbers, just common sense
Do i see lots of bigs/bosses, i bring sniper/burst canon
Do i see lots of smalls in long wide maps, i bring revo
do i see cqc combats/pump hotgun[rip]/machinegun

[charred badge]

pump hotgun

[gilded meadow]

also lack of ppl to play with mostly so it’s usually me and my buddy and two bots

[nocturne flax]

Your hot babe

[fallow delta]

Ppl in LFG work great

[tawdry elbow]

that is fun but imo the first time i played this game was when i had the most fun

[nocturne flax]

we disagree a lot but in bed we make it out

[fallow delta]

I played with 100 randoms + and only had good times, aside like 3 ppl

[charred badge]

fuck yeah

[tawdry elbow]

There’s more people playing now than ever so you should give it a shot :)

[frozen flax]

Is the console on D1 bugged after you do the waves?

[charred badge]

the ladies call me... pump hotgun 🤓

[fallow delta]

Define bugged

Everything worked fine for me in D1

[nocturne flax]

they call me machine pistol, i empty out in 2 seconds

[fallow delta]

Damnit

[nocturne flax]

gotta meme faster than that

[frozen flax]

I cant restart the reactor after doing the waves?

or what are we missing

[tawdry elbow]

are the lights on

[charred badge]

oof

[gilded meadow]

reactor_verify (displayed password) assuming ur on D1

[nocturne flax]

what happend to your reactor?

[fallow delta]

i just wanna trow 3 people into the mother with no knowledge of what she does..

oh right, reactor.

[frozen flax]

There is no passwords anymore

[nocturne flax]

If theres none then your done

[fallow delta]

Did you beat the || tank || ?

[frozen flax]

^We killed the tanks, but the power is still off and it says we have to do the reactor

[fallow delta]

Then yea, you are done with reactor

[nocturne flax]

restart the level

[fallow delta]

not sure why it says that doh

[nocturne flax]

levels most likely bug to the brim

lights should be on after the reactor

for you to procced to the terminal fog area

[regal thicket]

checkpoint moment

[frozen flax]

😦

[fallow delta]

oh yea.

did you use the checkpoint? @frozen flax

these tend to give bugs

evendoh i used that one in particular and had no issues

[frozen flax]

No we didnt

[fallow delta]

ah that's quite odd then.

[frozen flax]

Unlucky I suppose

Well time to murder another tank!

[fallow delta]

Sadly bugs are hitting hard on 1.0, devs are fixing them while we talk doh.

a few checkpoints have been fixed like 1 day ago

[grizzled ravine]

should've never removed cargo bug

I needed to know I needed the cargo

[celest hedge]

What's the best approach to get through C1 Zone 153? At around 60-80% through moving scan the game just decides to throw in a bigger swarm with a big shooter to spice it up, you don't even notice the 1-shot happening after that.

[ripe abyss]

Set up sentries and mines

really useful

when u learn spawns u will be good

[subtle solar]

Did anyone else finish every apparel mission and not get them all?

[errant vigil]

yes that do how it be rn

[tulip tiger]

idea that contains spoiler, commands for telling a bot to search for a certain thing that is through a door. Example: D2 error alarm, if you know that there's a tool refill in the first zone, you could command the bot before opening the door to go and look for it, like "Look for tool refill on the other side of this door" or maybe something a little more simple. Because you need to do the class 5 cluster after a few seconds, the command could be overridden/canceled with the follow command. just one less thing to worry about and would probably be more/actually useful through doors that don't have an error alarm if you're team is running low

[tulip tiger]

though I have not, there are over 16 apparel options and only 14 challenges

[subtle solar]

Man sucks because i really wanted the hood but never got it 😔

[tulip tiger]

sacrifice some scouts next update that increases apparel options

[left cargo]

There’s 14 cosmetic drops. You got them all and no hood?

[tulip tiger]

there's over 16

only 14 challenges

[left cargo]

So you can only get 14/16+?

[tulip tiger]

yep

[left cargo]

Illogical

[tulip tiger]

as of now at least

[left cargo]

Oh they forgot the pe rewards

[tulip tiger]

@mossy yoke is that a bug?

[mossy yoke]

?

[left cargo]

Maybe they add pe rewards on extended lol at least I have 2 towards it

[mossy yoke]

.t vanity rewards

[jaunty hedge]

You get one reward for completing each of the challenges in the 'Prisoner Apparel Requisition' list shown below. Rewards are selected from various pools. Additional reward chances will be available with future content drops (e.g., New Rundown releases)

https://imgur.com/a/eond8uF

[mossy yoke]

Those are the reward levels we chose.

[tulip tiger]

I just wanted to double check because PE is its own thing

[left cargo]

Is there more cosmetics than chances to get?

[nova cradle]

does anyone have a good screen shot of the map of R6C3?

[subtle solar]

@mossy yoke so even if you do all the requisites you dont get every item?

[mossy yoke]

Right, you'll need to complete any requisitions when more show up, like new rundowns, and if we do extensions there will likely be more opportunities then too

[subtle solar]

ok sick so i do have a chance to get the hood next rundown?

[sick hornet]

do you ever plan on having any sort of "challenges" for apparel whether its a weekly level, special restriction on a level, etc.

[mossy yoke]

Not sure what will be available next rundown, some options could be removed

I don't have an answer for that

[broken scarab]

I can’t program even if my life depended on it 😉

[tulip tiger]

#gtfo-game-suggestions moment

[burnt goblet]

I'm just waiting for holiday themed Scouts

[peak bobcat]

I have a question of the stamina system
when the health gets yellow
it feels like i receive more damage from enemys

is that right?

[tulip tiger]

they're tentacles extending is just an animation of a horizontal iceicle for each one

[tulip tiger]

no

[hexed vapor]

Snow miser scout.

[tulip tiger]

you supposedly get a melee damage boost though when your health bar turns yellow

[hexed vapor]

I think it might also do damage, not super sure.

[peak bobcat]

but exhaustion equals melee damage bonus

i don't know

[sick hornet]

shouldnt

i guess people just see yellow and think damage

[errant vigil]

yea it's weird they use the same thing for exhaustion as it is for 3x damage on melee

[tulip tiger]

he's mister scream miser, he's mister pain. he's mister wave spawner, he's mister newbies' demise

[errant vigil]

could have just made it blue to not cause confusion

[peak bobcat]

but does the color mean anything now?

[sick hornet]

yellow healthbar gives 3x melee damage when you use the IIX syringe

also indicates no more stamina

[tulip tiger]

I think I heard that it was tested and it does do extra damage? no one really knows

[sick hornet]

i can almost guarantee that it doesnt

[tulip tiger]

and @sick hornet it's 2x melee damage, 2 in roman numerals, II, and then an X for times although it's kind of confusing because X is also in roman numerals

[peak bobcat]

tbh i was scared the heart rate before trying its limits
cause i thought it could mean immedete death
because of heart attack

[hexed vapor]

It's 3x.

Old info, too.

[errant vigil]

pretty sure you could one shot a titan from back with it no head

[sick hornet]

havent tested that, i just know its 3x

can almost kill a gc to the back

certified rounding moment

[errant vigil]

where is .01 man

[nocturne flax]

back in r3 you could oneshot back with serynge

[sick hornet]

back when no rounding moment, where are my whole numbers 😔

[tulip tiger]

if it was 3X damage it should one shot to the back with hammer, if it's 2X damage then it should take 1 normal full charge to the back as well as the 2X

[sick hornet]

what are you on

you cannot kill a giant to the back with 2 hammers

[tulip tiger]

one of them would be with the syringe

and then afterwards you wouldn't have the syringe effect

[sick hornet]

it should but rounding error exists

melee does something like 19.99

instead of 20

[tulip tiger]

theoretically + what I said above

[sick hornet]

and 3x to the back of a giant would be exact damage

[errant vigil]

nah it's something else unless shotgun is a melee

Or it's a different kind of bug

[sick hornet]

wdym

[tulip tiger]

what do you mean by exact damage?

[errant vigil]

shotgun two shot back

three shot with rounding error

[sick hornet]

3 hammers to the back of a giant is the exact amount of health the giant has

[sick hornet]

odd, ive never seen it need 3 shots

[errant vigil]

that's why there was a patch for now shotgun kills chargers

[hexed vapor]

They gave it an extra 0.1 damage lol

[tulip tiger]

should be

or something, I don't keep up with every little change that gets made every update

[nocturne flax]

oh but when i say it i get linched

and gets confuse by the other back damage bug

lel

thankfully you shoot more this rundown than melee

[lofty echo]

toxic blackhombredelimondragon224 confirmed

[burnt goblet]

B2 secondary
Do you have to do both terminals in one go

Because when It said that the uplink was done, the alarm wasn't stopping

Just need some confirmation

Damn this chat is dead

[left cargo]

Uplink starts error alarm if I remember right or maybe that’s d3

[burnt goblet]

Seems that way

[paper harness]

that's a bug, B2 extreme shouldn't start an error alarm, and there is no uplink in D3, you should be able to do one terminal at a time

[burnt goblet]

Okay

[burnt goblet]

Was there something that you have to input in the terminal after you get 4/4 codes?

Its been a while since I've done them

[paper harness]

nope, it should shut off the alarm

automatically

it should say uplink complete on the terminal and then the codes at the top of your screen disappear

[burnt goblet]

Yeah, it didn't do that. It said uplink complete, but the alarm kept going and more waves spawned

[vernal rose]

checkpoint moment

[wind pilot]

For R6 B2 we just need to upload the uplink connect in 1 terminal right?

[wind pilot]

Its a bug also happened to me once

[burnt goblet]

You gotta do both terminals

[wind pilot]

From your experience completing it?

[burnt goblet]

Second objective in B2 says "Establish an external uplink from each terminal"

So that means both of them

[wind pilot]

Ah

[burnt goblet]

It's just like previous uplink objectives from past rundowns.

[queen nymph]

The mission objective listed two terminals right? Does it say choose one terminal to complete the objective?

[gloomy lodge]

do we have a name yet for the wall of flesh in D1

[pliant shard]

There’s names on wiki

Kraken, butterfly, Venus pussytrap

[sick hornet]

Squidward

[gloomy lodge]

I really doubt that's the names they're using on the wiki :thonk:

[vernal rose]

Forbidden fleshlight

[gloomy lodge]

what if the infection was designed by some alien race to quickly wipe out a planet's population and replace them with living disposable fleshlights and dildos

[onyx anvil]

So, can someone explain C3 Secondary? Where do you find Zone 175 and 177 to find the last cells?

[solemn wigeon]

Giga guzzler

[solemn wigeon]

You find them nearby in the main sector

[hexed vapor]

After you open extreme, it unlocks two zones beyond the checkpoint you need to visit.

These are locked if you do not open the bulkhead, fyi.

[onyx anvil]

Okay, are they adjacent to the same zone where you get the bulkhead key in zone 174?

Like the checkpoint

[hexed vapor]

Yes. Bulkhead left, key zone ahead, checkpoint right.

For PE, you also need to clear w/out dying, checkpoint breaks extreme completion.

[atomic escarp]

D3 PE was a journey 😅
big up julia_nacht for the carry. I never wanna touch that level again.

Now gotta hop onto the C3 PE...

While im here, anyone know if the pink skin is one thats guanteed?

[obtuse surge]

seems to be

for completing all main objectives

[atomic escarp]

Riiight, gotcha 🙂

PE i know is Orange and blue

[obsidian knoll]

Any general advice for C3?

[hexed vapor]

What the fuck is the D2 Secondary nerf?

15-20 at a time is too many, sure, but I think reducing it to 2-3 at a time is a bit much.

Spawn at least 5.

B1 is legitimately harder.

[solemn wigeon]

Epic nerf

8-10 would be appropriate

[heavy wave]

?

15-20 was too hard?

i did it first try though

We did fail but it was because we tried to extract with the tank in the scan

[hexed vapor]

This.

[hexed vapor]

It was mostly pretty annoying because it was a lot of flyers, and you couldn't get rid of them, it was just a lot of running around.

The nerf was deserved.

The amount it was nerfed was definitely not.

[heavy wave]

? you can get rid of them?

[hexed vapor]

No?

[heavy wave]

I was able to

🤷

[hexed vapor]

They respawn pretty much immediately if you kill a reasonable amount of them.

[heavy wave]

It was ez af

[grizzled ravine]

know the route

[heavy wave]

like i felt it was a c lvl

[solemn wigeon]

Go beat c2 then nerd

[heavy wave]

😂

I would if my team would be in to do it again

[grizzled ravine]

Imagine not C2/D2 Enjoyer

3 man the level

Actually, just duo it.

[heavy wave]

gimme 1 person then

all my team said no

😂

tbh c2 felt harder than d2

and it was ez too

[hexed vapor]

I think we got them down to ~7 and then we got another 15-20 immediately.

It was pretty lame, no way to give yourself breathing room other than only killing flyers that got close to you.

[heavy wave]

? thats the point of a scan

no breather

[hexed vapor]

Yeah, and that's pretty dumb?

[heavy wave]

breather is after the scan

[solemn wigeon]

Even for a D tier level, thats pretty unbalanced when you look a D3

[heavy wave]

? wait you guys had more trouble on D2 secondary than d3?

😰

what

[grizzled ravine]

D3 is just knowing the path

[heavy wave]

and doing 2 reactor at once

😂

[solemn wigeon]

How are you struggling with D3

[heavy wave]

Cursed version for the win

[grizzled ravine]

Go faster #BigMoves

[hexed vapor]

Not really much skill to hoping for concealed scans on D2 and just running around ignoring most of the enemies since fighting isn't worth it.

[solemn wigeon]

Don't tell me you are doing overload after high 😩

[hexed vapor]

8-10 would've made fighting more valuable, or even just better spawn delays.

[heavy wave]

well yea

😂

its more fun

[solemn wigeon]

How, you miss the point of overload

[heavy wave]

but i do it with 5th wave active of first reactor

then go for overload

😂

[solemn wigeon]

Wow so unique and innovative

[heavy wave]

i dont finish the last wave until overload is done

[grizzled ravine]

I can see why none of the team wants to play

[heavy wave]

They dont want to play C2

d3 they are fine with it

[grizzled ravine]

Ah you can fight a Surge Alarm, but not 4 hybrids?

potentially 3 hybrids because it bugs

[heavy wave]

They just hate fog apparently

[grizzled ravine]

Hate fog... D3

huh

[heavy wave]

😂

[solemn wigeon]

Nono he doesn't do a surge because he doesn't finish main until he finishes overload

[hexed vapor]

Dunno why you wouldn't do overload first, the fog is actually pretty baby once you know the level.

To each their own.

[solemn wigeon]

Next youll tell me you use the reactor wave for the overload scan

[hexed vapor]

Overload second(ish) is probably pretty fun, tho.

[heavy wave]

?

[grizzled ravine]

I ain't about getting swarmed surge waves inside extreme's claustrophobia

[lofty echo]

surge swarmed in extreme yum

[grizzled ravine]

BEEG heart

[warped spruce]

How much % do you need to 1 shot melee charger scouts

From booster

[charred badge]

a lot

[warped spruce]

Well rip

[faint vapor]

Your best shot is yellow syringe

[warped spruce]

aight

[signal fox]

50% with hammer, 70% with spear

[warped spruce]

HOLY shit

[crimson mural]

hello question help pls

on d3

we dont know what terminal shuts down the alarm

[lofty echo]

which alarm u talking bout

[crimson mural]

the one at the beginning

before shadow class 6 alarm

[lofty echo]

the one in overload?

[crimson mural]

after overload yes

oh yeah in overload

[lofty echo]

its at the end of the shadow class 6 alarm zone, it should be z292 or something

[crimson mural]

wait so we do the class 6 alarm with an error alarm?

[lofty echo]

no i just forgot the zone name that has the shadow class 6 alarm, the door to deactivate the overload alarm should be in that same zone w the shadow class 6 alarm

my wording fucking sucks

[regal thicket]

once you reached class 6 door, go right, there should be two more rooms and another stealth scan security door

terminal to deactivate should be inside along with some ammo

[hexed vapor]

Damn, fog on D3 is so chill now.

Closer to R5B1 fog.

[wind pilot]

What's the apparel list for overload sectors and all these other ones?

[rigid charm]

guys when does the tank spawn in c3

is it after u open bulkhead?

[hexed vapor]

It's associated with overload.

It's an error w/ some sort of timer, probably ~10 minutes per.

[rigid charm]

oo cos i assume it spawned arnd 10 mins

but it spawned at 11min and ripped my team

[brisk gyro]

also thought it was at 10 minute mark till i saw it at 14:00
just keep an eye out for the large biomass message

[hexed vapor]

I wouldn't expect any amount of consistency.

p sure large biomass is just titans.

[brisk gyro]

he comes with the second wave of giants

[hexed vapor]

A better tell is two roars back-to-back, usually means a normal wave followed by the tank (or vice versa).

I don't think he has a specific pattern?

I could check.

[paper harness]

when you do overload and the tank roars that's a fake tank, it doesn't actually spawn there but it tells you there's a sleeping tank inside bulkhead key zone

[brisk gyro]

id say roar too but i dont remember hearing any for the wave tank, maybe i was just lost in the heat

[hexed vapor]

I mean the wave roar.

[paper harness]

I think tanks are around 13-ish minutes and around 1 minute left

[hexed vapor]

At least some of the times we've had a tanks spawn we've had two wave roars since they spawned separately.

[paper harness]

if you're on pace, it typically comes when you're finding second bulkhead key in high

[brisk gyro]

wave roars seem a bit wack rn

u hear a roar and u see a single striker running down the hall, i dont think i can trust them much

and shouldnt the tank get his own special roar?

[errant vigil]

What that’s better

He does

[paper harness]

waves spawns are slightly weird, typically one enemy will spawn slightly at the front and break doors, this is also what happens in alarms

[brisk gyro]

after clearing the frontal horde is when i usually hear the one man wave, guessing enemy cap is a bit wack and causing one dude to always be late for the party

[brisk gyro]

i mean the horde warning roar, not his scream

[paper harness]

for scouts? I've noticed as well that scout waves always have 2 leftover since R6 and will spawn a second small wave

[errant vigil]

He has one in c3 at least

[brisk gyro]

for overlord, the sleeping one

not the horde ones

[errant vigil]

No all of them are

[paper harness]

wdym

[errant vigil]

He spawns super far away I’m pretty sure

[brisk gyro]

ive never heard the horde ones scream, which is why my team is always caught offguard when he's early

[hexed vapor]

      "WavesOnGotoWin": [
        {
          "WaveSettings": 96,
          "WavePopulation": 28,
          "SpawnDelay": 180.0,
          "TriggerAlarm": false,
          "IntelMessage": 0
        },
        {
          "WaveSettings": 97,
          "WavePopulation": 20,
          "SpawnDelay": 180.0,
          "TriggerAlarm": false,
          "IntelMessage": 0
        },
        {
          "WaveSettings": 80,
          "WavePopulation": 16,
          "SpawnDelay": 600.0,
          "TriggerAlarm": false,
          "IntelMessage": 0
        },
        {
          "WaveSettings": 80,
          "WavePopulation": 16,
          "SpawnDelay": 1400.0,
          "TriggerAlarm": false,
          "IntelMessage": 0
        }

[brisk gyro]

english for idiots like me pls

[hexed vapor]

So, I'd assume this is a 3 minute timer, a 10 minute timer, and a ~23 minute timer.

The 10 and 23 minute timers are definitely tanks, the 3 minute timer looks like it might just spawn extra waves of some sort.

[brisk gyro]

from my experience, tank spawns some point after 15mins with the next wave of giants

[sharp merlin]

it is 10 and 23, lookg at the wave settings.

note it isn't at 10 and 23 minutes, rather it is 10 and 23 minutes AFTEr you finish overload objective

[brisk gyro]

by 10 minute mark and 14:00 i mean what i see on the timer to extraction

[hexed vapor]

Settings 96 population 28 appears to be 4 bigs every 360 seconds (6 minutes).
Settings 97 population 20 appears to be 2 hybrids every 360 seconds (6 minutes).
Settings 80 population 16 appears to be 1 tank every 480 seconds (8 minutes).

So, after overload completes, you get a tank after 10 minutes, 18 minutes, 23.3 minutes, 26 minutes, 31.3 minutes, 34 minutes, and so on.

[brisk gyro]

yet, on my 38 minute PE run ive only seen 3 tanks
one of them being the overlord one

[hexed vapor]

I've had three spawn before.

There might also be some inconsistency due to mob cap, how these timers load, etc.

In-fact, this explains the run where we had 3 quite well.

We fought an early tank, long wait, get another tank, get another tank only some time after that.

We'd probably have seen another if we weren't booking it for the exit after the cells were in.

[hexed vapor]

Our run was ~38 minutes as well, the one I'm thinking of anyhow.

That's only 10 minutes into the actual combat section for overload completing, as well.

A bit odd, I guess. If I had to explain it I'd say the GotoWin waves don't actually trigger until you're closer to the actual point extraction appears at, so until you start pushing up you're probably safe.

[sharp merlin]

I believe despite the timer saying 480 seconds, only the first tank wave will spawn due to point distribution.

[hexed vapor]

Wym?

Oh, it has a total.

[sharp merlin]

I'm not exactly 100% confident how the points work, but I am confident in saying I don't remember a run where I've encountered 6 tanks 😅

it's a confusing system

[hexed vapor]

So it's definitely supposed to spawn only 1.

So it actually bugged for us.

I wonder if it has the same straggler bug that scout waves and reactors have.

[sharp merlin]

🤷‍♂️

[hexed vapor]

Seems to be related to m_populationPointsTotal being used.

I should test if scout waves are spawning 11 + 1 or 12 + 1 enemies....

[sharp merlin]

you could always make a test level with only that tank error. but i dont have the timer for that lol

[hexed vapor]

Seems like it's 11 + 1?

[brisk gyro]

i still see usually 2 tanks, first can appear before main/overlord even
the most consistent bit being that it spawns with the wave of giants after 15-20mins

[sharp merlin]

unfortunately, i dont think tanks can spawn before overload.

go to win activates after an objective is finished, so in overload's case, it will finish after the scan is complete.

[brisk gyro]

i remember a tank shredding us in one of our early runs on the way to overlord bulkhead took too long cus we were learning still but i could be misremembering

[vapid pulsar]

is b2 extreme bug on terminal after respawn on check point?

[thick burrow]

yes

[lucid yoke]

respawning at d3 checkpoint puts the power cell back on me

i cant drop it and need to exit and rejoin

[crimson mural]

question

does a shotgun kill a charger scout at the back?

[lucid yoke]

kinda annoying to keep losing map

[robust marsh]

i think so

[brazen lava]

Oh d4 is going to be a pain

[robust marsh]

have a cracked squad and you be fine 😄

[crimson mural]

D4 is fucked up man

[candid dragon]

Dmr v helrevo. Substantiate your choice.

[sick hornet]

D4 is fun, at least 1 scattergun reccomended

[vague mauve]

recommend 1 scattergun, and only 1

[crimson mural]

Did they change the charger hitboxes?

it's so fucking stupid now

Square at the back and they still live

[mossy yoke]

nope, that's just a damage bug we're working on fixing

[subtle vault]

What about the voice lines

[glacial crescent]

Damage bug as in Armor Hitbox overlap?

[vital wharf]

is C3 fixed now so you can actually get PE when completing Overload and Secondary?

[atomic escarp]

Wdym

[vital wharf]

i did it twice the other day and secondary didn't register at the end

which is the generators i believe

[atomic escarp]

I did it 2 days ago had no issues

[vital wharf]

That's why i'm asking, I did it like 4 days ago

this is after using the checkpoint atleast once

[atomic escarp]

U said the other day

[vital wharf]

4 days ago is the other day

[atomic escarp]

Checkpoints are bugged

Not only in c3

[vital wharf]

i'm aware

[atomic escarp]

So yeah if u do use the checkpoint it can fck up ur run

[calm vessel]

This made me laugh so hard

[fleet delta]

D1 smh

[vital wharf]

yep, teleports you back after beating the boss

i think they fixed that though

[onyx anvil]

Not fixed. Done this run about 15 times now and everytime we do the secondary and use a checkpoint it wont register upon extraction. Gotta beat it in one swoop without fucking up.

[vital wharf]

such bs

[mossy yoke]

c3's got the generator?

[dreamy bramble]

c3 secondary has a ui bug @vital wharf @onyx anvil , it states that 1/3 gens are filled as soon as you start but in reality none are finished

[atomic escarp]

Ah I cleared it in 1 swoop twice

[onyx anvil]

Doesnt matter

[calm vessel]

I think this is intended so you can go to extract right after

[dreamy bramble]

you need to do 4/3 to fulfill the criteria

[vital wharf]

no it teleports you back the the boss area

[calm vessel]

Oh damn

[vital wharf]

but like i said i think they said it was fixed in patch notes

[onyx anvil]

Did it? Only saw them mentioning C2

[mossy yoke]

that was a diff bug we fixed w/ boss fight that the terminal command didn't work after checkpoint. double warp work still working on

[dapper dagger]

have you tried putting all 3 cells after the checkpoint, I'm assuming you put the free cell in as soon as you get it

[vital wharf]

don't think i've done it after the checkpoint but not entirely sure

[sick igloo]

Does anyone have any tips for the Cluster alarm door in C2 Blind?

[obsidian knoll]

save some fog repellers

[obsidian knoll]

anyone have a map of C2?

having a hard time figuring out where to go with the optional objective

[thick burrow]

where are you stuck?

[lucid yoke]

Isn't c2 optional just hisec

It's like 2/3 rooms total after s1

[obsidian knoll]

Do we take it to the normal exit?

[tulip tiger]

exit scan never changes if you do optional objectives

[thick burrow]

no

[hexed vapor]

Yes, there has never been a level with multiple extractions.

[thick burrow]

if you're referring to the normal 'exit' as were you spawned, then no

[hexed vapor]

Main layer has a forward extraction ^

[obsidian knoll]

normal exit as in the place you go after the 3 gens

[lucid yoke]

Yes you bring hisec to the same exit as when you do only generators

[hexed vapor]

Yeah, there's never anything other than the normal exit rn.

[rotund ivy]

Yep yep, HiSec case goes to the normal extraction zone. 🙂

[surreal linden]

b2, im soloing with bots, how do i do the uplink things

[obsidian knoll]

got it so map memorization time

[atomic escarp]

While the terminal is processing the command you can exit it and turn around and shoot or whatever

Just so you know

[surreal linden]

yeah... but uh... how do i do the commands properly

[atomic escarp]

As along as you don't go too far from it (a few steps) or someone doesn't get too close (I dont think bots count towards that)

Same way if other people where around?

Just press ESC, see the codes

then input UPLINK_V (press TAB to autocomplete) then write the 4 letters

You can also write stuff while the terminal is processing a command (I think this works for all commands aside from PING)

[sand bramble]

Hi!
Doing D1 and after the reactor event is over it still says "power offline, restart reactor in zone 90". Is it bugged or is this correct?

[hexed vapor]

Ignore the objective text. Go to the opposite side of the hub room and try to reach the terminal to remove the fog (z94 should be iirc).

[sand bramble]

Many thanks!

[obsidian knoll]

oh well we gave up and swapped to do it normal and when we finished it gave us credit for the optional haha

still gonna go back and do it legit but that is interesting

[languid minnow]

Any tips for D1? Keep running out of ammo

[nocturne flax]

wich part

[tulip nacelle]

how much time is in between waves in c3?

[obsidian knoll]

Not certain but in my testing it seems to vary between 2:30 and 1 minute per wave spawn

[blazing thicket]

can mines not kill tank anymore?

or has it been increased from 7?

[errant vigil]

They can it is harder to do because of hitbox change I believe

[surreal linden]

Uhhh, cant find exfill for C3

completed PE, but cant find how to get to exfill, the smog is to hard to see through

[solemn wigeon]

Keep going :^)

I think its east facing the entrance to extreme

[surreal linden]

update: Ive done overload, not secondary, and i cant find the secondary bulkhead terminal

[solemn wigeon]

Uh

Through the checkpoint door i think

Idk i don't care about c3

[surreal linden]

imma put my map here real quick

oh i cant

[onyx anvil]

Late answer, but yes. We did this, it says the secondary objective is completed and to resume main. But you wont get the completion for it. Even if it's done.

[onyx anvil]

The Bulkhead order for C3 is Overload, Main, Secondary. Overload and Main is in the same room. Secondary is two zones away from main bulkhead door. Bulkhead for secondary is north in zone 173, Bulkhead console is west in zone 173 and bulkhead key is in Zone 174.

[real moss]

I don't know if it is intended, but PE only works if you do it in ONE run, so my guess is if you reload a checkpoint it is not considered one run anymore.

[onyx anvil]

It should, but it appears to be bugged atm

[real moss]

all I know is we did PE and got it but we just did not die so no checkpoint use

[lofty echo]

doc said PE w checkpoints work, but specifically in C3, it locks extreme and thats a bug

[onyx anvil]

Yeh thats the same way my group did PE. We tried it...maybe 20 or so times, completed it 3 times with checkpoint use and didn't get secondary registered even though we did it.

On the 20th time we manage to pull through the entire level withoout dying

[surreal linden]

I got help from another dude earlier, the only thing i have to do is get the cell in 177, only issue is zone 177 appears not to exist

[onyx anvil]

I't does. Door to zone 177 is in zone 175 past the checkpoint.