gtfo-spoiler-chat

[solemn wigeon]

Harder

[wary cedar]

I think the game now is in the sweet spot

And condensing the main lore in the first level of every tier is good too

Now none can complain about not completing the story of every rundown

[mossy cloak]

Main levels sure but the entire rundown :)

[wary cedar]

Yet if you want more levels you have more levels

And I guess theres more lore there, just not as important

Checkpoint are optional too so people complaining about em it's just DUMB....dont use em....

[solemn wigeon]

Too many remove checkpoints, even though you can ignore them if you want

[wary cedar]

Yeah

[solemn wigeon]

Alright prisoners who have finished the rundown, tier list of how fun each level is when

Im too lazy to do it

[queen field]

didn't test D4 yet but anything except C2 was ok

😳

[solemn wigeon]

:(

[queen field]

C2 ex's error

dang

[solemn wigeon]

Error is fine smh

[queen field]

no sniper + 1 scattergun only

• low ammo

😔

C3 would have been much better without fog tbh

It literally becomes a "hey you were 2 min too late for extreme too bad for ya there is fog covering the whole map" moment

[solemn wigeon]

Nothing wrong with fog everywhere

[queen field]

inb4 "but fog turbine"

😔

[solemn wigeon]

At least you can see in the fog

[queen field]

Yeah

not like D3

[broken zinc]

I agree. But the difficulty scaling and design of some levels is plain stupidity. Dosent mean they are not fun tho

[queen field]

I remember when we were chatting in the reactor

& noticed way too late that the fog was rising up

Oh christ the last code

Anyway what i hate isn't the level designs

it's literally the way they use fog

I just don't find a level filled with fog interesting at all

[broken zinc]

We never saw that we could deactivate the overload error alarm at first, so we made it all the way to main reactor with it lmao

[queen field]

Yeah same

[solemn wigeon]

Every level is filled with fog tho

If they werent you'd struggle to see

[queen field]

We ended up running the level with 4 shadows & 4 strikers spawning at the same time

[broken zinc]

Killing the tanks with 2 errors going on

[queen field]

See D2

There is fog, but it's not filling 80% of the map

There were few cases where i consider fog to be a well-used mechanic

such as R4D2

R4E1 as well

[nocturne flax]

All thos elevels you mention literally are the same when it comes to fog

You have to bust a move

[solemn wigeon]

Lmao

[nocturne flax]

Before the fog rises

[queen field]

ye

[broken zinc]

Yeah. Ppl that like to go slow will not like R6

[nocturne flax]

If you take too long yoy get punish

Just like r4d2

[queen field]

Ye

[nocturne flax]

Bust a move brother

Also last code removes the fog

[solemn wigeon]

^

[nocturne flax]

Then you bust a move to extreme cuz 15 min timer

[queen field]

in D3 ye

[nocturne flax]

Gotta bust a move

Ok ill stoo

[solemn wigeon]

D3 is all about keeping a decent pace if you choose to do optionals, if you don't you can take all the time in the world

[desert python]

in D1 in which zone do you have to input that air filtration command?

[queen field]

Zone 94 ?

with zone 93 having the key for it

[brazen lava]

Oh good c1 has the least fun type of alarm

[atomic escarp]

C1 is a fucking journey

[brazen lava]

I really dislike error alarms

[atomic escarp]

I loved the starting error alarm, its like a room rush

But the scan, is just, mean

[brazen lava]

Hey know your stealth? Fuck your stealth. Shooter time

[atomic escarp]

Can you imagine C1 with randoms

Those small dislikes aside though, C1 has been my favourite so far. Extremely fun

[queen field]

Less of a mess than C3 tbh

[atomic escarp]

Havent got there yet hahah

whats C3 like?

[queen field]

C3 is a freaking labyrinth

R5B4 on steroids

[atomic escarp]

hahahahah awwhh fuck

[queen field]

The optional objectives are shit but they make you waste time

So you have to know the map well & do the objectives + looting fast

[brazen lava]

That moment you actually want a bot to pick something up and they refuse

[atomic escarp]

Debating on if I convert from hammer to knife...

I feel like kiting is just, 1000 times better

[thick burrow]

Knife

[mighty pond]

If you want to do that knife would better fit the playstyle

[queen field]

Knife is garbage against giants but much better for regular sleepers

[mighty pond]

Hammer is just good all around

[queen field]

Also i love how you mention kiting

Feels like the famous anti-kiting measures don't exist

lol

[atomic escarp]

Like Giants im not really too fussed with, im dead set on scattergun

[queen field]

well then

meme gun solves everything

[atomic escarp]

Pretty much hahah

[signal fox]

Devs hate kiting but then make the flyer alarm in d2 extreme smh

[queen field]

Ah yes, this alarm

[atomic escarp]

C1 error alarm was built for the knife i feel like

[queen field]

Ye

[thick burrow]

Correlation?

[queen field]

don't try knife on D2 doe

[atomic escarp]

jack the ripper experience

D2 just, giants ?

[thick burrow]

I did

[queen field]

uh

not really giants

something else

😳

[thick burrow]

Chargers

2 full chargers to the back

1 to stagger and one finisher

[atomic escarp]

ew

[mighty pond]

It's fast af to charge

[queen field]

You can already imagine what happened in the devs' minds

[mighty pond]

It makes next to no difference

[atomic escarp]

HEL rifle, i wish you were here 😦

[queen field]

"Hold up we forgot to add chargers in the previous levels"
"All good let's fill D2 with them"

Literally

[atomic escarp]

hahahahah

[queen field]

Legit

[atomic escarp]

Are there any shadows?

[queen field]

Not on D2

[mighty pond]

D3

[queen field]

D3 has

[atomic escarp]

I just wanna confirm something

So, the C1 scout room

6 of them right?

[sinful sedge]

have you guys completed the rundown?

[queen field]

5 iirc

[atomic escarp]

if you woke them all up, is that 6 scout waves?

[thick burrow]

Yes

[mighty pond]

5-6 I've had either

[thick burrow]

They stack

[atomic escarp]

fucking hell lol

[mighty pond]

yes

[queen field]

Nah, studies moment

[sinful sedge]

goddam

[atomic escarp]

Thoughts? 🙂

[mighty pond]

About the rundown?

Or about what

[atomic escarp]

Yeah

[queen field]

nah

your opinion about scattergun

[atomic escarp]

^

this too

[mighty pond]

Very balanced and fair gun

[queen field]

based

[mighty pond]

I showed proof a few days ago of this in media 🙂

Very balanced gun, especially against mother and tank

[signal fox]

They spawn in way too fast to actually kill, room is huge and the lighting makes it impossible to see them, bio is bugged and can’t ping them for like 3 seconds after they spawn in. No joke if you have a good strat for it I would love to hear it. The 4 or 5 other people I asked were at a loss and pretty much just said give everyone meds to hold and hope sentries work

[queen field]

Well technically there is one

set sentries upstairs

Clear those that are a way too close to you

and pray on the last scan

[mighty pond]

But my opinion of the rundown is I enjoyed it. Levels felt mostly good overall. Checkpoints could have used more work. The boss fight was a let down imo, not enough to do with it just felt too simplistic. Lore is abysmally done imo, it should have been left to terminals or had it's audio priority higher and louder on doors so you could actually hear it over other things going on in game.

All and all it was fun and I plan to more than likely continue playing it unlike R5 which I never finished

[thick burrow]

I mean I had no issue clearing a couple of them with my guns, I do agree that we got swarmed at some point which led to two of us dying, but in no way shape or farm was my first initial thought “oh, dayum, they removed kiting how will I survive this”

[mighty pond]

Too fucking boring zzz

[queen field]

Ye

[thick burrow]

It’s clearly an issue on your end if you’re unable to hold your ground and find a proper way to deal with them

Everyone has different ways of doing it

[mighty pond]

It's sad tbh. I've enjoyed every rundown but R5

[queen field]

Even if the rundown is much easier than the previous ones, it's also funnier

[mighty pond]

And I've finished multiple full playthrough of each previous rundown, just did not feel good to me

It's definitely easier in the earlier tiers, the A tier was practically just a walking simulator

[queen field]

B tier as well

B2 is a huge joke

[mighty pond]

C/D are still easier for the most part comparatively to some others from prior rundowns, but they should be a nice challenge for the majority of the community

[atomic escarp]

this

[queen field]

Nothing to do with the levels in themselves, but i hate how the rundown main menu is made now

It was much better when everything was centered imo

[mighty pond]

I personally enjoyed the change

But the centering was good too

[thick burrow]

Why is it piss yellow

What’s the lore

[mighty pond]

Because your pee is yellow after running a lot

duh

dehydration

[thick burrow]

you pee after running a lot?

[brazen lava]

i do not have the energy for c1 right now. already have a headache

[mighty pond]

you don't>

?

[thick burrow]

i don’t know actually..

[mighty pond]

lol

[thick burrow]

Never payed much attention to what happens after i run

[hexed vapor]

Wym?

Most things feel pretty balanced to me, at least.

I think only really B2's secondary felt incredibly easy (and boring).

[atomic escarp]

does anyone know if in ||c3 overload causes the first tank wave???||

[queen field]

No idea but there is one of them in the bulkhead key zone

Actually i wonder if the wave sound is glitched

[hexed vapor]

I expect it does, I think it's just a tank error.

[queen field]

That's weird then

I always hear 2 screams

[hexed vapor]

I think it's also about wasting your time, though, for sure.

[queen field]

Feels like a warning to tell you there are 2 tanks coming at you but way later

[hexed vapor]

We've had them spawn at inconsistent times, is the main reason we feel like it's probably just an error.

Had one at 11 minutes on our good run, one around 7 minutes on a very slow run.

[queen field]

we got ours at around 14

real fast though

[atomic escarp]

i get mine around 11 mins consistent with overload

[hexed vapor]

It could be spawning two on some sort of timer, as well.

[obtuse cedar]

tank is on a 10 min timer after you are done with the scan at the terminal

[elfin spindle]

anyone know if they warp phases in c1 are based on floaters killed or just time elasped?

[queen field]

so a 10 min error

time elapsed i think

[hexed vapor]

You should kill as many as you can on C1, though. You should have the ammo, and killing them conserves health and makes it a lot easier to survive, especially on the second round.

[atomic escarp]

just conpleted C1 and HOLY SHIT

that was.. DAMN

the fucking scanner moving thru the entire building from bottom to top!

[solemn wigeon]

T scan moment

[atomic escarp]

that was the most intense shit ive done in this game so far since rundown 4
i'm scared of whats to come now

[solemn wigeon]

C2 comes after C1 :)

[queen field]

ah yes

the C2 extreme incident

[atomic escarp]

c3 is r5b4 on steroids

i miss the 1 wave a minute thing

[charred badge]

lmao

[neat sluice]

Is C2 extreme still glitched?

[queen field]

iirc yes

if you mean the checkpoint

[neat sluice]

I mean having more hybrids than you are supposed to :o

There is an alarm with hybrids at the end

Its supposed to spawn 4 at a time but I've heard its glitched and spawns more

Some friends and I were planning to attempt C2 ext tonight, so I'm wondering if someone can confirm this bug so we just try something else 😅

Fair enough lol, ty for the info

[queen field]

oh that

no

I thought that was the legit error

lol

[paper harness]

Pretty sure there's nothing wrong with the error

It's just that the enemies can stack up sometimes and so it seems like there's a double wave

But there's always 4 spawning every ~40-ish seconds

[obtuse surge]

i dont think there was any mention of that bug being fixed

so some of these reports may indeed be false but some of them are probably right too

for what we know, it used to have a chance of happening if a client picks up the item

fucks up somehow and triggers twice

so if its the same thing thats happening, you could prevent it by having the host pick up the item

[queen field]

i'm certain it isn't 40s

It's much lower

[obtuse cedar]

i personally timed 47 sec from scream to scream

[queen field]

Doesn't feel like 40s tbh

Guess i'll have to check out once i can get access to my PC 😔

[sick hornet]

yo D4 is epic

last level I need, we got to ||infect before waking up a scout||

[brazen lava]

Objective: survive

[sick hornet]

very fun level, easily my favorite

[wary olive]

been having trouble with C2 extreme, after the room with mother, we are getting hybrid spawns in the scout rooms occasionally, is there something we can do to prevent this

[signal fox]

man I sure am happy the devs took the weapon names out of the data blocks so now I have to waste a bunch of time verifying what each weapon is to get damage numbers

hahahahaha

[nocturne flax]

Give me my combat shotgun back!

You fix pellet perfomances droo and you fucking remove it

What the fuck

[lofty echo]

trade offer: scatter gun for combat shotgun

[nocturne flax]

Nah

Scatter funny as hell

I like it

Its such a meme

[lofty echo]

scatter gun clutch af in d2 amen

[signal fox]

trade offer "internalEnabled": true

[nocturne flax]

Dont tempt me

[nocturne flax]

You pull up

[lofty echo]

pull up in every scout mother room with 2 scatters lmaooo

[nocturne flax]

@mighty pond he pulls bro

I hope next patch they put the lore on the terminals

[mighty pond]

I pull up

A fellow pull up man

Culture indeed

[errant vigil]

Probably not going to go back to doing lore only on terminals

New players would be weirded out by it I'm sure

[mighty pond]

Put the damn lore in the terminals now or the scout gets it

[rocky dawn]

So, the teleportation events... Are we getting into the cause of the infection now? Experimenting with teleportation?

I've only completed A1 and B1 at this point.

[nocturne flax]

#gtfo-lore

[dire notch]

I just finished D-1... what the fuck just happened

[wary olive]

You got teleported to xen, fought the nihilanth, and now the g man warden will cryostasis you again for the next mission

[wary cedar]

Well that was my first reaction when I saw the teleportation machine

[wary olive]

Yep major resonance cascade vibes

[agile thorn]

push all 3 scouts

[wary olive]

We were trying that but then we were just getting overwhelmed by 3 rooms worth of sleepers which was like basically waking up a scout

Guess we just suck

😔

[agile thorn]

if they spawn inside you just fall back to the mother area and hope the scout still sleeping

[wary olive]

Scouts woke up every time

[paper arrow]

how do we deal with the massive ammount of flyer enemies on D2 extreme in the class 5 M scan?

[dreamy bramble]

sniper sentries can take them out

[paper arrow]

were taking 3 of them

[dreamy bramble]

also they suck at hitting you if you have cover

[paper arrow]

and its still not enough

[dreamy bramble]

you should hide under catwalks/stairs between scans

and eat meds while you're doing them

its nearly impossible to kill them all so you really just want to finish scans before you die

[desert shell]

when they glow up shoot their mouth

They die to a couple of hits to the mouth when they glow up

[dreamy bramble]

hel gun one taps them as well, and is very useful for the rest of the level

[shy herald]

Got to the damn door to open at the end of C3 after defending it for 6 minutes. No ammo, no tool. Melee'd the hybrids. And as soon as we opened the last door, a striker wave spawned on top of extraction. Mfw

[hasty sierra]

c1 zone 150 "nice"

||5 scouts in 1 room||

[royal lichen]

eye opener :) .. good tho they are in sync

[shy herald]

Thankfully they gift you 2-3 foam nades beforehand

[royal lichen]

we just took our time and hammered em one by one

the scout room is a nice prelude to something quite interesting..

[dire notch]

thats... not wrong

[distant ether]

Hey gang when do the shadow bois start popping up?

[mossy marsh]

just walk to the side, they have no aim lol

[paper arrow]

its a scan bruv

we cant dodge all of them in the open from different angles

[mossy marsh]

shoot 'em lel

[paper arrow]

all the advice i got was basically "get good lol"

like damn

[mossy marsh]

I mean, it's not a lie

[paper arrow]

sure but like

i think the scan might be bugged due to checkpoint

[mossy marsh]

maybe a hel gun could deal with it easily

idk

[paper arrow]

we tried it

cause we had a bug in c2 that cause the error to spawn double the hybrids

[stark mauve]

fellas

on D1 boss level alpha genome

we keep killing the red blobs on the side of it but nothing happens

fucker is running our fade. do we have anybody who knows what to do

[wary olive]

u have to kill 5 total blobs i think

[stark mauve]

dude where are the other two

we kill the three and the thing just rises up and spawns two million of those floaters

and there is shit for nothing we can see without getting clowned

if u like you could help

[wary olive]

sometimes they spawn at the bottom, you have to get the right angle to shoot the blobs

[sick hornet]

D3

[manic cave]

Apparently, if you use the checkpoint on C3 PE, there's a chance it bugs extreme, and you don't get the completion

Just happened on my run

If you wipe, just don't use checkpoint; start from lobby

[paper harness]

what level is the best for artifacts so far?

[brazen lava]

could probably get away with alternating a1 and b1 to keep heat up

[dire notch]

what was that... for lack of a better term "Nemesis" in D-1

[mighty quest]

So in C2 if you use a checkpoint and the doors break past the mother room the doors will be considered "Broken" and you can't C-foam them

You can still open and shut them but you can't throw a grenade or C-foam. It bounces off of it

Also four Hybrids on like a 45 second timer is kind of rough

[wary cedar]

They are one shot kill with Sniper

When they are about to shoot they are easy to kill

[mighty quest]

Yeah first run through we didn't have a sniper, had two choke shotguns and a scattergun with a LMG

[wary cedar]

Rundown 5 there was a mother im b1 lol, thats rough lol

[mighty quest]

A2

[wary cedar]

Maybe hel gun is useful with hybrids too, haven't tried it in this rundown

[mighty quest]

That wasn't as rough honestly cause there's three scouts in the coming rooms and you gotta carry three items after killing a mother

Helgun is like 8 damage

[wary cedar]

Choke shotgun is kind strange

[mighty quest]

3 taps if you hit the head

3 taps if you hit the back

[wary cedar]

When I play alone is massive but when I play with people not so much

Must be some kind of desync problem

[mighty quest]

13 damage is the hel-gun shooting the head

or like 26 damage

yeah 26

[wary cedar]

Are c2 and c3 very hard?

[mighty quest]

C2 is only rough if you're doing the back-end of extreme

and error wave of hybrids

is asinine

[sick hornet]

C2 high easyish c2 ext hard

C3 high medium c3 pe very hard

[mighty quest]

C2 high I would've probably been done with in an hour, we got to the end of high after giving up on Extreme for three hours and we couldn't even complete it cause the checkpoint bugged the extract

[wary cedar]

Mmm well I'm that kind of person that in first playthru just try to complete main

[sharp merlin]

what is D3 sector order.

[wary cedar]

So I guess it won't be too problematic

[mighty quest]

Like we go in clap the mother with one scatter gun shot and a C-foam grenade stealth kill 2/3 of the scouts then my team dies from the 12th wave of hybrids

[paper harness]

overload high extreme

is the intended way

theoretically high overload extreme is possible but you need to be fast

[sharp merlin]

ty

was wondering if r4c3 situation.

[raven mica]

Im might be dumb, but for the reactor_verification with code Runt, what is the correct way to type it in? I keep trying only to say wrong password or not give me password prompt

its for D1

[nocturne flax]

REACTOR_VERIFY RUNT

[raven mica]

Thanks! ill try it now, I swear I did that, but I may have mispelled it. Im on my fourth checkpoint restart for it

[queen nymph]

Might have misspelled it

[safe timber]

How many new enemies did they add?

[atomic escarp]

How many tumors do you have to pop on the boss in d1

[gaunt creek]

is there a way to get rid of the fart gas on D1 before you jump into it to make it to the first security alarm door?

sec_door_4

on d1

[sharp merlin]

Is there a P mother at all lol

🥲

[wary olive]

i think 5

[wary olive]

do the reactor towards the east side of the map, then go to the very west side of the map to lower infectious fog, then do alarm door in the middle

[gaunt creek]

dont i have the go through sec door 4 to get to the reactor though?

[wary olive]

no, reactor should be the first thing you do

[gaunt creek]

this mission is awful

[velvet oak]

And most of all, if you are not à full squad (Or at least not Solo, didn't test it duo), the scan speed of the first and last scan of the warden door alarm is reduced (divided by 4)

(But the map is really great to my opinion)

[fringe stirrup]

Man, the difficulty from B to C really steps up! I’ve been playing with bots while I wait for my headset to arrive, and I’ve wiped at what I think is the final security challenge several times. Think I’ll wait to play it with humans!

[royal lichen]

just delay, take the waves standing

sentries etc before they get close

then move

[fringe stirrup]

Makes sense. We keep rounding a corner into like twenty strikers

[royal lichen]

stop, shoot, move

took us ~8 retries to get it 2 humans 2 bots

[unique helm]

B2 is so annoying lol.

[royal lichen]

frog turbine missing, otherwise fun

[grim marlin]

Wtf stop spoilin me smh 🤨

How was I suppose to know the spoiler channel spoils me

[royal lichen]

😋

[atomic escarp]

D3 PE was annoying.

So.

Much.

Fog.

Extreme was chill

[mossy cloak]

So much less fog if you get there like 15 minutes earlier

[atomic escarp]

Thanks 😭

We were decently quick. Done with it all in an hour 10, but yeah, 10 more mins would have helped.

Must be a skill issue.

Maybe hour 20?

[mossy cloak]

I did it in 1hour and 30 (because we waited for the biomass surge)

[paper harness]

I feel like if they made every mother into a pmother this rundown they would still be a joke because of how absurdly broken the scattergun is

[cosmic urchin]

Does anyone know how to finish C3 PE?? We keep doing all the side objectives but we don't get the extreme???

[paper harness]

I think it's a bug currently with the checkpoint

you have to do it all in one go

[cosmic urchin]

Seriously? -.-

Been trying for 2 days now. FFS......

[paper harness]

yep, it is what it is

[cosmic urchin]

😭

Thanks! 😒

[trail nacelle]

are the devs aware there are checkpoint bugs?

had to fight through c2 extreme against 8 hybrids spawns every wave

[mossy cloak]

Checkpoint is host migration 2.0 don't worry the dev already know about it

[trail nacelle]

alright cool

hopefully it gets fixed

[paper harness]

anyone actually have footage of the 8 hybrids per wave?

[signal fox]

@fallow delta how many numbers do you want lol. I don't want to make a wall of text here

[fallow delta]

Just melee damages pretty much, if you have them @signal fox

Base + fully charged

[signal fox]

Hammer
"ChargedAttackDamage": 20.0,
"LightAttackDamage": 3.0,
"LightStaggerMulti": 3.0,
"ChargedStaggerMulti": 5.0,
"LightPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedPrecisionMulti": 1.0,

Knife
"ChargedAttackDamage": 5.5,
"LightAttackDamage": 2.0,
"LightStaggerMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedStaggerMulti": 1.0,
"LightPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedPrecisionMulti": 1.5,
"ChargedSleeperMulti": 2.0,

Spear
"ChargedAttackDamage": 17.5,
"LightAttackDamage": 2.0,
"LightStaggerMulti": 2.0,
"ChargedStaggerMulti": 1.0,
"LightPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedPrecisionMulti": 1.3,
"CanHitMultipleEnemies": true,
"AllowRunningWhenCharging": false,

Bat
"ChargedAttackDamage": 12.0,
"LightAttackDamage": 3.0,
"LightStaggerMulti": 5.0,
"ChargedStaggerMulti": 5.0,
"LightPrecisionMulti": 1.0,
"ChargedPrecisionMulti": 1.0,

here is the raw stuff from the data block

[fallow delta]

Thanks

[signal fox]

for reference strikers have 20 HP and shooters have 30

giant strikers have 120 and giant shooters/hybrids have 150

[mossy cloak]

Chargers have also 30 HP right?

[signal fox]

yes

[mighty pond]

[fossil jetty]

The "CanHitMultipleEnemies:true" is a interesting value to put on the spear. Guess they intended for "spearing" 2 sleepers at once if one is right behind the target.

[signal fox]

I shared damage values. The devs are plotting my assassination as we speak

[mighty pond]

o7

Community purity #77

[signal fox]

It probably just makes the hit box last until the animation finishes instead of making disappear after hitting something. Mouse flicking to hit stuff far away is probably not intended

[granite token]

As the Shadow Activator, are there no Shadows nor Shadow Giants in this Rundown currently?

[signal fox]

D3

[mighty pond]

It's most definitely not intentional

[mossy cloak]

I can confirm that it is officially not intended

[mighty pond]

If that's intentional mechanic wise I will be immensely surprised

[mossy cloak]

D3

[signal fox]

Rip spear gang when that gets patched 😔

[mossy cloak]

It's still gonna pierce tho :O

[mighty pond]

It'll still have use, but not nearly as taken as it currently is

Honestly I see a bat/sledge meta melee wise

knife is fun for niche play, but just is too unreliable

[signal fox]

Bat is a stagger meme weapon

Can perma stagger giants

[mighty pond]

Mhm

[signal fox]

2 back taps

[mighty pond]

It's kinda cracked

[granite token]

Thanks

[granite token]

Thanks!

[signal fox]

Can’t wait to beat the shit out of big chargers with only bats

[mighty pond]

It's fun lemme tell you

I meme staggered one while Dragon knifed one to death lol

[mossy cloak]

Finnally a way to consistently kill giants as a duo

[granite token]

Are there any Chargers and Big Chargers in this level?

[mossy cloak]

No

[woeful lintel]

wait so bat can perma stun big chargers ?

[signal fox]

Hammer does 100 stagger damage now

[mighty pond]

Pretty much yea

[woeful lintel]

@mossy cloak there is actually

[mossy cloak]

Well I missed the first part of the level so haven't seen any

[signal fox]

Stagger mom in 4 hammer hits

[mossy cloak]

I haven't seen any chargers in D3 otherwise

[woeful lintel]

there's some in D2

you probably missed it

[mossy cloak]

I haven't done D2 bruh

[signal fox]

Don’t

[woeful lintel]

yikes

[mossy cloak]

I will

[signal fox]

D2 is kinda cringe

[mossy cloak]

D3 pe is worse I bet

[granite token]

Why does everyone talks about how bad is c2, c3, d2 and d3 currently?

[signal fox]

C3 is good

C2 extreme is just a check to see if anyone brought sniper

D2 is an example of how poorly made the flying enemies are

[mighty pond]

Chargers and shadows are only in one level each which is big sadge

[granite token]

😦

[signal fox]

I haven’t done D3

[dire iris]

Why do I need a sniper in C2?

[mighty pond]

The hybrid error

[signal fox]

4 hybrid error alarm

[mighty pond]

It helps

A fair bit

[dire iris]

LOL

[mighty pond]

Scattergun/Sniper does good work against the wave

[signal fox]

Sniper gets 6 shots per refill now

[woeful lintel]

D3 is super fun I kinda like it's idea

[signal fox]

Actually busted

[woeful lintel]

scattergun is more busted

probably gonna get nerfed real quick

[signal fox]

700 damage to mom kek

[granite token]

lol

[mighty pond]

Straight up leaves mothers with next to no hp after one shot

[granite token]

Burst Cannon memories

[mighty pond]

Because why not

[dire iris]

Fair and balanced.

[mighty pond]

The gun is literally BC on roids in close range

It's so much stronger

[signal fox]

It has 2.0 stagger multi too

[granite token]

Which is best? Burst Cannon or Scattergun?

[signal fox]

Cause apparently 1 shotting everything wasn’t enough

[gaunt creek]

currently, scattergun

[mighty pond]

Scattergun in close range has no contest

As a general BC is better imo

[granite token]

It makes Burst Cannon look balanced LOL

[woeful lintel]

I'm so hyped to use scatter vs pmother

[mighty pond]

The versatility range wise was very strong that the Scattergun doesn't really have

[woeful lintel]

but that's not gonna happen

[gaunt creek]

the scattergun is basically a debug weapon

[signal fox]

Scatter gun 4 shot pmom lmao

[woeful lintel]

ikr

[mighty pond]

3-4 shot yea

[granite token]

I does not fit in the rock paper scissors category. That thing destroys everything

[mighty pond]

You probably with good pellet RNG could get 3 to work

[signal fox]

No

[mighty pond]

As client

[gaunt creek]

well it has no range. and you can rock paper sissors your friends in the back of the head.

[signal fox]

It just doesn’t do enough for 3

[gaunt creek]

which i've done about 20 times today

[mighty pond]

I'm too lazy to do math so I will take your word for it

[granite token]

R6B2 is joke

[signal fox]

192 * 5 * 0.7 something

[granite token]

It's just R4C3 but easier and without the Spitters

[signal fox]

Don’t remember it’s precision off the top of my head

But 192 per shot lmao

Who designed that thing

[granite token]

Are there Mothers or Big Mothers in this level?

[woeful lintel]

mothers yes, big one ? no

[granite token]

Oh

[mossy cloak]

No p mother yet :(

[mighty pond]

Someone with a big brain 🙂

[mossy cloak]

Waiting for mother error alarm

[granite token]

Imagine a room where you have to fight that new boss thingy + Tank + Pmother + Giant Chargers?

[woeful lintel]

kinda expecting that if scatter is legit

[mossy cloak]

Hey we already have tank respawn room

[woeful lintel]

Other special weapons :

[mossy cloak]

Hel gun still good :)

[mighty pond]

That you can completely ignore btw

[granite token]

lmao what

[mossy cloak]

Yeah :(

[mighty pond]

Send one man in to do everything and turn the alarm off ez

Nice respawn room 🙂

Even not doing so you can mostly avoid it

[mossy cloak]

"mission where we have to split"

[signal fox]

Respawn rooms aren’t a flawed mechanic

Not at all

[mighty pond]

That statement wasn't evident by the fact they nerfed and removed tons of them in R5 immediately after launch

And then basically all but removed them this rundown LOL

[granite token]

Guys what do you think about a boss room that contains that new boss enemy + Pmother + Tank + Giant Chargers?

[mighty pond]

It simply wouldn't work

That's what I think

[signal fox]

10cc mentality. Why fix it if you can just remove it

Burst cancel be like

[mighty pond]

They fixed burst, to have some burst methods still exist, to just remove the gun instead of making it add the ammo at the end of the animation

👍

c-foam launcher does it, idk how hard it is to translate that to a gun

[signal fox]

Data block moment

[woeful lintel]

did they already fixed burst cancel ?

[granite token]

👍

[errant vigil]

Do it in the carbine I dare you

[mighty pond]

Probably not

You can more than likely still C cancel and esc menu cancel

[signal fox]

It was still in R5

I assume it’s still in R6

[woeful lintel]

haven't tried in R6 that's why I asked

[granite token]

How hard is D3

Does it contain R4D2 vibes?

[errant vigil]

Could have chargers

[mighty pond]

D3 could definitely use some chargers in it

[gaunt creek]

they should put the little dudes at the end of every map

make the new players poop their pants on the first mission for sure lol

[granite token]

Are there Shadow Scouts in this rundown?

[mighty pond]

yes

in the same level as the shadows

[granite token]

I see

How difficult is D3?

[mighty pond]

It's a good challenge

[granite token]

But not C2?

[mighty pond]

C2 is arguably easier for an experienced group doing both

But it doesn't really have 4 hybrids spawning

so if that is the challenging part it's easier

Just need to not do it in the wrong order 🙂

[granite token]

What is the proper order for the level?

[mighty pond]

Overload, High, Extreme

[errant vigil]

Or not read the objective updates 🙂

[granite token]

Yeah, I have beaten Rundown 005 except R5D1 Extreme

R5E1 so it's nothing to me

[mighty pond]

shh you why would we ever do that

[errant vigil]

Drue

[granite token]

I'll just bring a sniper and scattergun just in case for extreme

[errant vigil]

I’d say this D3 is more forgiving than D2 even if you wake up the room

If you don’t panic the busted guns can destroy the room easily

[mighty pond]

This is true

[errant vigil]

Also dependent on when you alert

[mighty pond]

Or if you be stupid and put something into a terminal early 🙂

[errant vigil]

For some reason I was thinking of R5D1 not R4D2 but the logic still applies for D2 I believe

[mossy cloak]

There is so much ammo in D3

[mighty pond]

There's a good reason lol

[fleet delta]

guys

is d1 hard

[mossy cloak]

No

[hexed vapor]

Not really, it's pretty middling.

So, it's hard, but veterans are going to breeze through it.

[mossy cloak]

A1 B1 C1 and D1 are all fairly easy

[fleet delta]

I'm no veteran lmao

[paper harness]

it's fairly challenging but with checkpoints, it much easier to learn the level through trial and error, it will give you a taste of what upcoming harder levels may look like while still being relatively accessible for most players

go in with an open mindset and be ready to fail and try again and you should be fine

[fleet delta]

mmm

I think two burst sentries and one c foam is good for C1 moving scan

first time it was one burst one auto

[mossy cloak]

4 sentry best way 😎

[signal fox]

If you do 3 burst at the warden door you don’t see enemies until about 80%

This assumes the sentries are at 100% tool

[fleet delta]

lol nice

[severe shell]

TFW you finish C2 extreme for the first time after 30+ attempts 😩

[fleet delta]

the guides are coming out slow

Ima try optional stuff when the pros have their guides out fully

[marsh pecan]

C1 and B2 are...painful

Didnt complete them but got very far

[marsh pecan]

An auto facing the center on middle floor works too

[signal fox]

the "pro" guides are bring bio + 3 burst sentries so you can afk most of the levels

mines with 2 burst on some levels

a1, b1, b2, c1, c2, and d1 can have all of their scans be made trivial

[halcyon void]

are the power cells in the gen room for c3 extreme?

[hexed vapor]

Only one of them, the rest are in zones past the respawn zone.

Also, why not use a terminal?

[halcyon void]

first time doing extreme and we never killed the tank. was a bit chaotic

[hexed vapor]

Gotcha

[atomic escarp]

literally

this update is awesome

how can i give more money to the devs please

[atomic escarp]

did you make it to the end of C1? XD

||the fucking moving scanning thing||

[marsh pecan]

yep

thats where we called quits-most of us had to go anyways

[craggy crane]

Bro D1 tho

Real talk

The build up from A1 to D1 was actually really well done

Each level gives you enough to be like "ok wtf was that" and then D1 is just FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

[wild cradle]

Honestly D1 is easier than C1 is, in my opinion. They just throw resources at you

[atomic escarp]

anybody here attempted d3/d4 ?

need 1 person

[vernal rose]

Have you played D4 tho

[solemn wigeon]

That is the question

[crimson mural]

just want to let you guys know

you dont have to kill every mother in d2

if you think there's just one, there may be 2 or more

[pulsar zodiac]

you only need to kill 1 if you decide to go for the error alarm

[earnest trout]

Zone 86 in D1?

[solemn wigeon]

What about it

[earnest trout]

Nevermind

[quiet moth]

how do it beat C2 extreme? the hibrid* wave always spawns inside the scouts room and my team get double scout wave

[pulsar zodiac]

scattergun

be fast

[solemn wigeon]

try timing it so that hybrids spawn just before you open the zone and move fast

[quiet moth]

thats harder than E1 of rundown05 , we spent 3h until my team gave up

[solemn wigeon]

oop

[tired charm]

Hybrid wave is def a slap on the face, but you can stall them with just 1 person, send 3 forward to clear scouts. Save cfoam nades, and cfoam/mine doors behind you to chunk hybrids and give you time for blood door

[mossy marsh]

just shoot them 4head

a scatter can one shot them I think

[tired charm]

Yeah they can. I'd recommend a scattergun and snipe or 2 scatterguns

[dreamy bramble]

@fickle girder you can instakill the mothers with a scatter gun

two shots and they're dead

we had two people murder the mother, and the other two shoot the scout first

with a scattergun it shouldn't get a chance to birth

[regal thicket]

casually staggers mom and delays birth

[dreamy bramble]

the whole zone is optional however, and i'd really recommend going any other zone than it

funny fog animation cancel :)

[crisp quiver]

so scattergun is meta?

[solemn wigeon]

pretty much

I do hope it gets nerfed

its far too stronk

[crisp quiver]

i mean,it sure sounds too strong

[dreamy bramble]

it is pretty dumb

trivializes the largest threats in the game

[crisp quiver]

if every time someone asks "best way to beat this room?" the answer is "scattergun" then...yeah

[dreamy bramble]

any challenge besides the fliers is pretty much deleted by it

[solemn wigeon]

Which is why it needs a nerf with both ammo capacity and types of shot

[fickle girder]

wait wot for real?

[dreamy bramble]

yep

[solemn wigeon]

basically

[dreamy bramble]

two bullets and bye

[fickle girder]

shall try that

[regal thicket]

bug hunter team is pretty big brain

mega buffs burst sentry for smalls

then gave scattergun a okay

[severe shell]

is there an ETA for when E and F levels will be released?

[queen field]

June 2023

[charred badge]

no

[queen field]

😔

[charred badge]

deadass?

sounds fake

[queen field]

Oops my bad

it's june 2024

Seriously ofc they won't tell us the date

Not to mention we don't even know if F-tier is gonna be a thing

[hexed vapor]

@mighty pond Fog resets after reactor startup on D3? That seems so much easier than I thought it was, lmao.

[charred badge]

its not even in the logs yet, prob wont be mentioned for awhile

they only just started bug fixing things today lmao

i'd say probably at least 3 months until we hear anything

[soft loom]

@broken scarab does the T in the moving scan stand for tour

[queen field]

ah yes, tour scan

isn't it travel instead ?

[craggy crane]

Traveling Scan

[solemn wigeon]

Turtle Scan

[soft loom]

aha, torture scan

[brisk gyro]

nah, just team scan

[queen field]

the TooBadForYouItsMoving scan

[spice veldt]

c1 is pretty cool i must say

[tulip vale]

Recently found out there was actually a command in a few of the terminals to restart the filtration system 😅 So our run was a bit fucked

[bronze coral]

I feel like they were going with deep bioform lore and then they saw the Spider man no way home trailer and decided dimension travel time, also saw dune for the worm boi

Feels very half life 1-esque, kinda diggin it

[mossy cloak]

The dimension time travel was a very good idea

Amazing in D4

[bronze coral]

Yeah d4 is very enjoyable

Disappointed shadows didn't get a spotlight in it though seeing every other mob did

Also spear vs meatballs to make kofta kebabs is v good

[broken scarab]

Your guess is as good as mine 😉

[bronze coral]

I thought T was transporting, travelling or transposing

[mossy cloak]

Turtle scan. The scan itself looks like a turtle.

[bronze coral]

^ now canon in my head

[worldly flame]

just killed the big thing in d1 but need to turn the reactor on? can't find anything to activate the reactor

[tulip vale]

Sounds like a bug lmao

[worldly flame]

;-;

[tulip vale]

After The D1 end thing, im pretty sure you just run to extraction (Unless im dumb)

[queen field]

yes

The game is supposed to teleport you back

with schaeffer whining for like 2 min straight

then extraction

[worldly flame]

all that for nothing ;-;

[vital wharf]

guh

I heard mention of that but had no idea what terminal that is

even then the 4-5 hybrid waves are just rediculous

[solemn wigeon]

Doesn't it say on your screen after putting a cell in to restart the filtration system on a terminal elsewhere

[tulip vale]

Perhaps one of them was that terminal we saw in the room just before the hisec alarm?

[tulip vale]

Honestly never saw it

I know it exists cause i've seen it now

[solemn wigeon]

bruh

proof noone reads ;c

[tulip vale]

I read all the stuff on the objectives I swear

[grim marlin]

Wtf kinda name is Bishop lmao

[solemn wigeon]

I just can't believe that

I'm sorry ;-;

[forest horizon]

I thought the first generator has a way to lower the fog but after that you can't lower it anymore when you put in the second cell

[solemn wigeon]

I swear you can't even progress until you put in the command

[forest horizon]

you can't

[solemn wigeon]

you do it twice

on 2 different terminals

[forest horizon]

I only did it once

[solemn wigeon]

wack

[forest horizon]

so maybe its busted

[solemn wigeon]

maybe the second is optional

kek

Haven't played enough C2 yet to fully learn the ins and outs

[forest horizon]

all I know is bring 4 scatterguns for extreme

[solemn wigeon]

kek

nerf scatter

[charred badge]

racism speedrun any % ?🤨

[grim marlin]

Wait what!?

😥

No sir please Im sorry

[charred badge]

😂im jus fuckin with you

[grim marlin]

😡

[charred badge]

i think its explained but idk

[grim marlin]

I hope a big striker swoops you

[charred badge]

that's not very nice

[grim marlin]

🧐

[charred badge]

i'd like to keep that 40% of health

[solemn wigeon]

I hope a giant charger swoops you twice

[mossy cloak]

You spent more time crashing than playing c2

[vital wharf]

i find scattergun invalidates shotgun and chokemod completely because it has 16 ammo at 100% and one shots giants, big shooters and hybrids

[mossy cloak]

Scattergun is busted

[solemn wigeon]

Blame my city

[forest horizon]

yeah its op

how it made it past 6 months of testing idk lmao

[solemn wigeon]

Scattergun 5 bullets when

[vital wharf]

and hordes get obliterated too lmao

[mossy cloak]

Don't hesitate to upvote the suggestion about nerfing scatter gun

[charred badge]

😂

they're already working on fixes n shit

[forest horizon]

imagine suggestions being relevant

[charred badge]

guarantee some weapon balances within the next 2 weeks or so

[vital wharf]

i like the one shot, i think it just needs an ammo nerf

[mossy cloak]

Fix spear soonTM

Tbh I think a bit less precision multiplier and less ammo

[grim marlin]

I cant warm up to scatter 🧐

The ammo capacity

It drives me insane

[mossy cloak]

The ammo capacity is huge

[vital wharf]

yo upvote the latest suggestion

[grim marlin]

Wtf

[regal thicket]

scattergun but mag size is 1

[vital wharf]

lmao

[forest horizon]

just the fact that its the best boss killing weapon in the game and isn't even bad at wave clearing

[solemn wigeon]

Scattergun ammo capacity is 100% too big

[vital wharf]

there is literally no downside to it other than range

[forest horizon]

it literally does everything

[mossy cloak]

Scattergun nerf when?

[charred badge]

soon

[mossy cloak]

It's tbh the best emergency clearing gun

[vital wharf]

bet

[mossy cloak]

Aka surge alarm gets to close

2 scattergun shots and sleepers are gone

[solemn wigeon]

Thats the problem

it can obliterate literally everything

and it has so much ammo for what it can do

[vital wharf]

1 shot mag, 8 shots total is where it should be

[solemn wigeon]

and yet people want it stronger

[mossy cloak]

Mag should definitely be at 1

[vital wharf]

it's straight up easymode lol

[mossy cloak]

At least you can't kill mother alone without it spawning babies

[solemn wigeon]

it needs a longer shot cooldown at the very least

[vital wharf]

yeah it only takes 3 shots to kill lol

[mossy cloak]

3????

It's like a single shot and half

[vital wharf]

depends on the range really

1 meter makes a big difference

[solemn wigeon]

If you are point blank, which is very easy to do against a stationary enemy, you are guaranteed a kill

[vital wharf]

only mother i've done this rundown was C2

where she wakes up immediately

[mossy cloak]

More like die immediately

[vital wharf]

kinda wish the mother would get a remodel, looks super janky like something out of The Forest

[charred badge]

only mother I've done was yours 😎😎😎

[vital wharf]

[clear bloom]

Hi!

[vital wharf]

has anyone completed C2 secondary with bots yet

[clear bloom]

i have a question about the mechanic

does the in-game voice chat will arrgo the monsters?

[vital wharf]

no

[clear bloom]

oh you really sure?

[vital wharf]

pretty sure, although i haven't used voip this rundown but i've heard no mention of that being a thing

[clear bloom]

alright thats probably my ilussion XD

[charred badge]

no, it doesn't work like that

[clear bloom]

tho i think if it does it'll be pretty fun

[vital wharf]

if anyone actually used voip lol

[clear bloom]

yeah

[vital wharf]

like 90% of players don't matchmake

probably actually way more than that

[clear bloom]

it'll be pretty impersive

immersive

[vital wharf]

if only this game were built for immersion

it's built for master strategists and hardcore players

and masochists

[clear bloom]

i guess this game in some way is immersive

like the terminal interaction logic

etc.

[vital wharf]

until everyone starts spamming the voicelines and laughing like maniacs

[clear bloom]

hhhh

[brazen lava]

inb4 devs: not hardcore ennough

[vital wharf]

can't wait for the devs to buff C2 secondary because they found out people can actually beat it 🤦‍♂️

[mossy cloak]

Waiting for harder side objective

[green belfry]

Three,Two,One, Lets go!

[mossy cloak]

Big guy there

[sick hornet]

Are you really playing if you dont spam scan voiceline during an alarm

[faint vapor]

Ahh, c2 is painful

Need infection resist my ass

[severe shell]

Is this actually true? Actually makes sense cos i just started playing after game is released out of early access and got past a1, b1, b2, c1 using matchmaking, but got stuck on c2 all weekend until I tried the discord matchmaking. I noticed a lot better quality players instantly

[vital wharf]

thats why i never use matchmaking

[halcyon wyvern]

is it required to use a mic for LFG

[brave hatch]

IMO, this discord matchmaking thing is kind of primitive and screams low budget indie game. Not that it's a really bad thing, but would be better to have in game browser lobby or something more mainstream like in other games...

Also yes, the quality of players in the discord matchmaking is 4-5x better than in game matchmaking.

[atomic escarp]

No, just make sure you let the team you playing with know.

[severe shell]

Not usually, but depends on the group (usually says mic required on title, or when you join discord room voice chat they'll tell you). Often people will be fine as long as you listen to the team (you can just type to tell them, people are usually fine with this in my experience)

[halcyon wyvern]

thanks

[vital wharf]

almost everyone who lfgs wants people with mics whether they declare it or not

[regal thicket]

and i've just beaten d1 with matchmaking

3 checkpoints tho

[mossy marsh]

agree, current mm and discord lfg aren't the ideal solution
but it works just fine for now

no real complaints from me tbh

[severe shell]

I think I failed 20+ attempts at C2 extreme with matchmaking, but tried the discord matchmaking after that and got it after 2 attempts

Though my last run we had a really good player who was spearing the hybrids at the last part solo to distract them 0.0

[halcyon wyvern]

wait there's a difficulty setting? where

[nocturne flax]

its called lfg discord

if you want impossible difficulty you use matchmaking

[halcyon wyvern]

funny

[brave hatch]

Ay brah, I wonder if anyone has ever finished C2, C3, D tiers with random in game matchmaking

with optionals and prisoner efficiency difficulty i mean, or even just the main objective

[nocturne flax]

I dunno i dont use crap matchmaking

theres literally a text that says

prissionars in matchamking lacks communication

[mossy cloak]

Any matchmakers 😎

[nocturne flax]

and social skills

fuck that

[mossy cloak]

And skill

[severe shell]

but isnt the lore 4 random prisoners working and surviving together, so in game matchmaking is canon

[mossy marsh]

muh immersion

😩

[dapper dagger]

👆

[sick hornet]

@regal thicket

Hows it going

[regal thicket]

😎

[tulip vale]

I went on matchmaking once and everything was setup to English, but the moment I get in a lobby everyone's name is in Chinese and I couldn't understand a single thing they said 😭 (we still finished b1 though cause yknow, it's b1)

[obtuse surge]

i haven't looked at how matchmaking was changed but if their 2nd language option is english than you should indeed be able to get matched with them still

there's probably also a fair amount of players that will just use default options

[sick hornet]

My language defaulted to Estonian or something for whatever reason

[turbid cliff]

Yeah seems like a lot of people got that

Well now you know that country exists

[hexed vapor]

Yo, what actually is the tank timer in C3?

We fought three of them in less than 30 minutes.

[calm vessel]

Sheesh. They stack?

[vital wharf]

Doing main C3 rn, what's the win objective?

[pliant shard]

Survive until extract opens

[native drum]

|| 1 in overload, one 12 minutes and last 1-2 minutes. ||

[vital wharf]

So i assume you are just opening areas to get supplies and that's it?

[pliant shard]

Pretty much

If you do PE you do additional objectives that make it a little harder

[vital wharf]

aight, I got to like 8 minutes but got wiped lol

thx though I hoped as much

[pliant shard]

Keep at it that’s super close

[grim marlin]

Can the helgun still one shot giants

Or scouts

[calm vessel]

i dont think the hel gun ever could one shot a giant

[grim marlin]

🧐

U sure

[fallow wasp]

If you really want to one shot them use the scattergun

[grim marlin]

Hmmm

[calm vessel]

you mean HEL rifle?

[cyan bronze]

Don’t think HEL rifle coule either

[fallow wasp]

I don’t even think hel rifle could one shot giants

[calm vessel]

yea probably

[cyan bronze]

Sniper for sure could

[calm vessel]

could two shot

[grim marlin]

🙄 mention scattergun one more time and I swear to god I will...

[fallow wasp]

Kek

[grim marlin]

Trigger the scout

[cyan bronze]

Easy

[fallow wasp]

Choke mod shotgun is better for general use

[grim marlin]

But scouts? 🧐

[fallow wasp]

I think choke mod might one shot if you hit every pellet

I’ll have to test that out tonight

[grim marlin]

Hows the ammo cap with shotty choke

[cyan bronze]

scouts could die to one shot from hel gun if you hit the occupit

I think

[fallow wasp]

Yes

[atomic escarp]

From R4 I remember being able to kill scouts with the chokemod from decently long distances for a shotgun

Not sure if they changed it

[fallow wasp]

It sounds correct

And I don’t think they changed the choke mod since then

[hexed vapor]

Yeah, we fought one after opening extreme (iirc) and one in each cell area.

Actually not that bad tbh, if you can kill it once you can probably kill it again. Also, scattergun.

[fallow wasp]

If heavy assault wasn’t moved to special I’d run heavy assault and choke mod

The big boy guns

[cyan bronze]

I change up my loadout constantly. Barely ever use the same two guns if I’m playing casually.

[fallow wasp]

I prefer the consistency of going into a new level with reliable guns

If I’m doing a level over again I’ll probably shake things up a little

[cyan bronze]

Oh for sure. When I go into a new level I either use pistol, hel revolver, carbine, or dmr for main and pump buckland, revolver, or heavy assault rifle for special.

Which is probably still too much variety

[fallow wasp]

Tried C1 for the first time with the hel revolver and the machine gun and I was not anticipating the bio scan

Machine gun was almost useless there

[cyan bronze]

Was not expecting that bio-scan at all lmao

The first time I did it, I had to schmoove around the entire tile while both of my teammates were down to come back and revive them.

[earnest trout]

Bring Assault Rifle and Buckland shotgun

Cannot fail

[cyan bronze]

Replace assualt rifle with carbine and I’ll do it

[fallow wasp]

Someone told me the buckland felt different

[cyan bronze]

I think it shoots faster now

[fallow wasp]

Huh

Well it has to compete with the holy pantheon of shotguns now

[cyan bronze]

yeah

[earnest trout]

TAKE BUCKLAND

NOW

[pliant shard]

It feels different since the gun actually pumps after every shot

[tulip vale]

I just tried to do C3 with bots and bishop picked up my 4 use tool refill and now all the sentries are out of ammo

***BISHOP PLEASE USE THE TOOL REFILL ***

[cyan bronze]

Rip

[mossy yoke]

Is it not refilling anything?

It should distribution tool when it gets low

[sick hornet]

does it not refill sentries directly?

[tulip vale]

I mean he sat there with every sentry empty and just stared into the darkness with his pistol so idk

[dusk parrot]

with C1, when you teleport to the flying enemy zones, how does it progress?

is it time or enemies killed?

[tulip vale]

I wanna say time

Haven't personally tested, but I don't think we killed a lot of them on the 2nd zone

[dusk parrot]

we just died on zone 2

we'd been in game for 2 hours and didn't want to continue

long ass way

[tulip vale]

Ouch

[dusk parrot]

wondered if i was doing the right thing by running or if i should have carried on shooting

[tulip vale]

Yea I personally just avoided them and shot at them from a distance

[dusk parrot]

our bots went down immediately

left us scrambling

[charred badge]

time based

1st teleport is like 2 and a half minutes

2nd is about 5 minutes

there may be a kill minimum too, not sure

hard to survive without killing them anyway

[dusk parrot]

i find them quite hard to shoot

my frame rate dives and they flap about

[charred badge]

they're good with evasive maneuvers

[hexed vapor]

Fun af enemy tbh.