Like bulkhead? No
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
noble chasm
thank you
brittle light
ye, this rundown a surprising amount of bulkhead doors don't have an alarm on them
last rundown that was quite different, wasn't it?
pliant shard
Last rundown was scuffed with the bulkhead. It was never consisted. Now most are either lock down doors or just regular open doors
noble chasm
ye, this rundown a surprising amount of bulkhead doors don't have an alarm on th...
yea i have ptsd from last rundown lmao
lost holly
i miss e1
nocturne flax
no way it was 7
errant vigil
terminal, 2 bulkheads, 3 bulkhead DCs, 2 security doors
so 8
can take one away if you don't count adding an error to the level
lofty topaz
How to access a2 overload? only seeing two keys come up on the computer, do we have to go into extreme?
errant vigil
No
It opens after you pick up the cargo on high
so if you just want overload you do it after main only
You do extreme first to get PE
lofty topaz
Thank you (:
hexed vapor
Does anyone know which door for the final error refers to a terminal towards the start of E1?
It's either the error itself or the alarm afterwards to get into 543.
obtuse surge
the alarm on the door that gets powered by the generator
dreamy bramble
we cleared mother room by accident
so we can shut off the alarm once we're done with the c5 m alarm
or am i misunderstanding?
hexed vapor
the alarm on the door that gets powered by the generator
Thanks. Never would have thought that would be a strat
atomic escarp
How do you open the locked door in D1 at the beginning?
pliant shard
Unlocks once reactor is shutdown
fierce laurel
we cleared mother room by accident
what a chad
queen nymph
what a chad
one of our teammates got bored so she was like, “well, I guess we can just kill the mothers to speed up” 🤡 and we did it 💩
dreamy bramble
uhh yeah definitely what happened
fierce laurel
hm
wise atlas
Does anyone noticed that on last error alarm when you put cell into generator and starting C5 scan the terminal, where you must shutdown the alarm, changing? Is it a bug or another feature?
fierce laurel
is this E1?
wise atlas
Yeap
pliant shard
How’s it changing?
wise atlas
Where I can upload my video
pliant shard
Media and fan art
Terminal will still be the same location but I see what you mean now
fierce laurel
wait make what he said understandable to an idiot like me
pliant shard
The hud text that say “deactivate alarm on term_XXX” changes
fierce laurel
ah
well there are 2 error alarms that stack
the terminal for one of them is at spawn
the other one is at the very end and it shuts down both
someone correct me if I'm wrong
wise atlas
Yeah the first one we had was in the zone 544 and after starting C5 scan terminal changed it's location to zone 528
wise atlas
So I'm wondering is this a feature or bug
fierce laurel
but it's much easier to just finish the last alarm and shut down both
it's a feature
I think it's intended
wise atlas
Got it thanks
fierce laurel
it's the trade off of 'deal with the error alarm' or 'go back all the way back through the tank and mother room'
which some people actually clear the double mother room
what a bunch of chads
queen nymph
Probably no one would have done it because having big giants wave are way better then having bunch of small sleepers coming after you
dire notch
" the reason we arent getting any artifacts is cuz we arent in Chernobyl" - Me to my teammates, waiting for someone to get the reference. noone ever gets it 😦
worthy yacht
Quick question about A2, does the whole expedition need to be in Warden scan or just the Cargo?
obtuse surge
cargo and one player
worthy yacht
Ok. Great to know, I thought you could just drop the cargo and fck off somewhere
dire notch
Ok. Great to know, I thought you could just drop the cargo and fck off somewhere
I mean, 3 of you can fuck off somewhere
but one of your people has to stay behind so you may as well just all be there
fierce laurel
giant alarm and what was the other one?
fierce laurel
wait what
fierce laurel
oooh
mortal granite
and then after that, you have surge S alarm
fierce laurel
Mmhm
mortal granite
it just stacking giants alarm
fierce laurel
ah
mortal granite
so you can turn off both alarm because of it i believed
fierce laurel
I think turning off error alarms always worked globally
or B1 wouldn't shut off both if you opened both doors
fierce laurel
oh
mortal granite
since both door need a hsu to shut it off
queen nymph
Probably it’s intended idk
mortal granite
both door have the same mechanic
open door trigger alarm -> hsu scan turn off alarm
if you trigger both door
same mechanic apply
mortal granite
the error alarm are just
"Big charger error"
and to turn it off
you "Scan HSU"
so it's a bug
i would say that
the devs planned for us to turn off the blood door "Giant error" alarm
fierce laurel
I doubt it
mortal granite
and then from that
fierce laurel
I think they planned for us to rush towards the ending
mortal granite
nah
that wouldn't make any sense
and it even destroy the ending
you put so much effort into it just to make the player rush to the end
mortal granite
not everyone
mortal granite
for us
we have so much ammo and hp
we wouldn't even care if there is an extraction alarm
fierce laurel
we had a ton too because we cheesed the last alarm
fierce laurel
we wouldn't even care if there is an extraction alarm
I mean
you didn't have much of a line of sight
if you had a giant charger running at you I'd doubt you would have enough to kill it before it got to you
hexed vapor
Pretty sure it's not a bug
Also pretty sure you never have more than 4 striker titans a wave.
hexed vapor
So that you can shut off the alarm prior to the surge if you played differently.
mortal granite
the 3rd alarm is behind the surge alarm door
the 4 alarm are the one at spawn
and i believed that
i have more than 4 giants when we trigger the 4th alarm
the error spawn on the c foamed door
fierce laurel
you probably just weren't gaming hard enough
mortal granite
the 4th alarm spawn a set of 4? or more on the fog security door
hexed vapor
If waves stack up, yeah, you'll get more than 4 giants, but there's a reason most people fought exactly 4 giants after clearing the surge.
hexed vapor
Because once you clear surge enemies you'll get exactly one full wave of all active error alarms before you have time to shut off the alarm.
candid pelican
ah damn, i just realized i never found the e1 text log
mortal granite
ah damn, i just realized i never found the e1 text log
it's in the shadow zone
hexed vapor
Therefore, it is very likely that you are always fighting exactly 4 striker titans.
mortal granite
and 544
hexed vapor
As we experienced the whole time.
queen nymph
I hate the shadow zone
queen nymph
Just the fact that this rundown has a very bad lighting design in the zone and you cannot see shadows even with the light on and max setting
fierce laurel
I didn't have an issue with it
wait just to make sure the shadow zone is the one with the 6 shadow scouts right
with the key
hexed vapor
Not sure if they've resolved the issue of hardware making them practically invisible seemingly at random.
fierce laurel
I'm not sure whether not being able to see shadows using glowsticks is intentional or not
hexed vapor
They don't render w/out a light on them, I believe.
They can get stuck in odd animations that way.
Especially the scouts.
hexed vapor
I can see them very clearly on C2 and D2 this rundown, only notable change since the Unity update is that outlining them against fog is no longer as good as just getting a view of them in a fogless area.
queen nymph
I think D2 was fine for me
hexed vapor
Shouldn't be any different on E1 besides being dark, then?
queen nymph
Ask my PC probably
exotic sable
What is the difference between Cluster and Diminished Alarm?
orchid sorrel
What is the difference between Cluster and Diminished Alarm?
cluster is the type of scan and diminished just means less enemies spawn per wave
keen rampart
@orchid sorrel but faster spawning waves
orchid sorrel
<@611684216983388221> but faster spawning waves
not true
your just killing the enemies faster which triggers the next wave sooner
if you kited the waves, it would be the same time as a regular alarm
turbid cliff
Regular alarm won't spawn new waves if you didn't kill anything usually
bold widget
F1 mother error alarm when
errant vigil
two snipers one combat one hel gun easy clap
queen nymph
thats just boring
solemn wigeon
machine guns all around
rigid escarp
your just killing the enemies faster which triggers the next wave sooner
if this is correct then the wiki is incorrect, which currently states they spawn faster:
Every wave spawn much more frequently, faster than error alarm waves.
I'm guessing the requirement of killing a certain number of enemies to trigger the countdown for the next wave is reduced as well
Thats probably what it is
turbid cliff
Reading the wiki 
obtuse surge
killing x enemies is never a thing
remaining active enemies is
which are related but they aren't the same thing
mellow creek
what happens id we dont stand in the final circle for e1
hexed vapor
Does A3 have a softlock?
Bring one cell from overload to disinfection before you finish the gen cluster?
hexed vapor
Somebody is gonna do it.
mortal granite
isn't the bulkhead key spawn in zone 43?
hexed vapor
z41, one in the back of extreme, and one in overload behind a lockdown door.
turbid cliff
Somebody already did it actually
mortal granite
i feel like you have more cell to work with
in overload zone
3 cells for the cluster
and 1 extra cell for something
we finished overload with a spare cell
we bring that cell to high to get into disinfection station zone
hexed vapor
If you do it in the wrong order you're down 1 cell (3 cells).
mortal granite
how do you do it wrong?
hexed vapor
Bring one to disinfection before you finish the cluster.
You have 2 cells left over.
mortal granite
you have 5 cell
hexed vapor
You can't get 5 cells, you can get 3.
mortal granite
there is also a cell in zone 43
hexed vapor
Which you can't get to.
mortal granite
how tho
hexed vapor
Bulkhead key is in 233, which is in lockdown.
hexed vapor
43 is the high bulkhead.
42 is disinfection.
I wonder if the cell in 43 was supposed to be in 42, actually.
mortal granite
it should be in 42 instead of 43
obtuse surge
don't think so
it's probably so you can stock up before the S1 if you're just doing high
obtuse surge
you get the cell after high bulkhead
obtuse surge
mortal granite
keep remember thing wrong
obtuse surge
extra overload cell would be so you can disinfect if something went wrong there
and then continue extreme/high
granite token
What is the KDS Deeper mean btw?
hexed vapor
Kovac Defense/Defensive Services Deep
They want to know if enemy hostiles have temporal parts.
granite token
Or alternatively:
"Kill Die Suffer" Deep
west crow
Or alternatively:
"Kthe Dlevelwhere Stheplayerssplit" Deepup
mortal granite
did the player split up tho?
west crow
I wish 😢
dire notch
Or alternatively:
"Kthe Dlevelwhere Stheplayerssplit" Deepup
or alternatively:
"Kite Dem Sleepers" Deep
queen field
"Kiss Da Scout" Deep*
dire notch
this is the best one yet ^
fierce laurel
kms deep
dreamy bramble
@robust marsh three real errors. first is a wave of ~6 sleepers with a chance for a hybrid, second is 4 chargers, third is 4 giant strikers
the first two are shut down as you progress through the level by terminals
robust marsh
oh not so bad than
dreamy bramble
the last one you finish at the very end
robust marsh
thx
dreamy bramble
it's nasty because of what you have to do during the errors
it takes a while to shut one down
the first error sounds the easiest but you have to do some real bs to turn it off
imo probably the hardest part of the level
obtuse surge
chance for hybrids
fierce laurel
kms deep
dreamy bramble
lmao
i never noticed giant chargers on the second error
either the odds are low or we are absurdly lucky
obtuse surge
low
it's like giant on early tier scout waves
but even less chance because it's just a wave of 4
while the hybrids on the first are more like shooters in your usual alarms
dreamy bramble
yeah i guessed that there might be multiple since we occasionally had 2 in a wave
dreamy bramble
but i wrote it off as a straggler from the previous wave
giant chargers on that error is some bs lol
could legitimately end a run if you weren't ready
fierce laurel
that alarm room is also bs
they can run through the center structure and you don't get any life of sight or any time to react
dreamy bramble
i feel like we got off lucky on that second error
we never really ran into trouble ever on it
we did run out of ammo on our first run through it though, and a giant charger would have wiped us easy while we hammered the waves
obtuse surge
if you grabbed some ammopacks before starting it
and didn't waste too much on scout aggros
it's fine
dreamy bramble
yeah we're normally pretty good about the scout aggros
obtuse surge
not sure about the time but it's pretty similar to R4C3overload
dreamy bramble
except for the shadow zone
we had a ton of practice hammering those charger waves on low hp thanks to those fucking c3 speedruns :)
obtuse surge
the alarm in the fog can get messy if you get bad scans
dreamy bramble
our scans play pretty nice in there
but i can see how it could go to shit if the s1 went up to the door
obtuse surge
up the structure
they all climb ladder at once and then collision flings them at you
dreamy bramble
we had that once
but luckily it was in between waves
so we were able to fuck off before they mauled us
hexed vapor
Our group has a good bio and we've usually been able to get a good foam off so that alarm was never a huge deal.
Worst case, most of eat 60-85% infection and we have to backtrack for the disinfection zone at some point.
In general, I think the hardest part of the error alarms is timing when you start your final set-up for alarms.
Either wait for a spawn that means the wave will take ages to reach you or be ready to clear wave, set up, and pull alarms in as short a time as possible.
Having optimal foam for the harder alarms gives you a lot of breathing room you wouldn't have otherwise.
Also, don't invest in set-ups that just take too long, it seems like that kills people on the first error for the first class III especially.
hasty moth
So what's the meta load out for D2? Im thinking of trying double mine-deployer next attempt.
solemn wigeon
Guns
candid pelican
2 sniper, 1 bio, 1 mine
queen nymph
My team brought C-foam instead
sick hornet
we did bio, c-foam, mines, sniper
solemn wigeon
Likewise
queen nymph
Didn’t use sniper until the 3rd wave of the reactor
dreamy bramble
the reactor portion is so easy, you don't need double sentry
candid pelican
It helps
dreamy bramble
some of the alarms are pretty gross though
fierce laurel
4 bios
solemn wigeon
4 sentries when
dreamy bramble
foam is really nice
candid pelican
I'm just posting how I won
regal thicket
shoot harder
hasty moth
I've heard "Just hammer the waves" but uhhhh those giants are like 
fierce laurel
Lmak
candid pelican
Because you gotta work fast too
queen nymph
But it’s not all giants wave. You will be fine
candid pelican
Unless you wanna run around completing the objective with 5 waves lol
solemn wigeon
Mine the waves
dreamy bramble
there are dumb amounts of ammo in the reactor, i'd be surprised if people managed to run out lol
solemn wigeon
There's surprisingly not a whole lot compared to other reactors
dreamy bramble
its also extremely short though
solemn wigeon
True
dreamy bramble
relative to the length you get tons
solemn wigeon
Inb4 reactor with no ammo
solemn wigeon
11 wave reactor no ammo
dreamy bramble
and a tank on wave 11
solemn wigeon
and a pmother in forward extraction
hasty moth
Yeah what happened in my attempts is that 3rd wave going to the charger scout room, past the giant respawn room with low ammo, no mines and no sniper ammo.
dreamy bramble
that part killed us in our first run too
hasty moth
So after talking to the team we were thinking maybe double mine deployer is the meta. But it looks like we mightve overmined or used snipers too early
dreamy bramble
you can have 3 people hold the waves in the small room between the reactor and the room that connects to the respawn zone
bio can solo the code fairly quickly
hasty moth
That's kind of the rub. We didn't know if there were or werent shadows so we sent bio in and held the platform in front of the sec-door.
dreamy bramble
the big rooms are pretty nasty holds
hasty moth
If we hold the joining room, can't they spawn in giant room and smash our "terminal getter"?
dreamy bramble
the hybrid will take the high ground and gun you down
no
reactors have set spawns
hasty moth
Yeah I have no idea how spawns work for reactors.
hasty moth
I know they're different from alarms and terminals but how? That's beyond my level 😦
hasty moth
reactors have set spawns
So no matter our position it's always the same place?
dreamy bramble
should be
possibly if you're in the room they would normally spawn in they might reroute
but that isnt a problem here
obtuse surge
it depends on the reactor wave specifically
they can have different settings
but all of them for D2 spawn in the starting zone
and it'll try it's best to use the 2 rooms rule
hasty moth
Hmmm so in theory for wave 3 if we all move out of reactor, have one guy stealth down to the sec-door, we don't have to worry about aggroing giant respawn room, since they don't spawn there and to get there itd have to get past the 3 of us
candid pelican
Just aggro the room tbh
dreamy bramble
you could
but it’s not like it’s easier to defend in that room anyways
it’s dark, foggy, and the tile causes the sleepers to go everywhere
dreamy bramble
yes
fierce laurel
just shoot it
candid pelican
If so, we probably got lucky on giant placements
candid pelican
^
dreamy bramble
that’s why i said you can do it if you want
there’s just no advantage whatsoever lol
candid pelican
Speed
dreamy bramble
but you don’t lose too much either
fierce laurel
efficient clearing
dreamy bramble
you have to stealth across 1 additional room
fierce laurel
it isn't I just say that when I accidentally aggro the scout :3
dreamy bramble
which takes about the exact same amount of time that it takes to clear the giants
but you save ammo and meds
candid pelican
@fierce laurel is there another wave after you get the wave 3 code or do you bolt?
fierce laurel
lots of times you'll end up taking an extra wave 3 because of that
fierce laurel
<@270106302384963584> is there another wave after you get the wave 3 code or do ...
bolt I was talking about my comment
it is the last thing
well
candid pelican
lol yeah
fierce laurel
if you dont count all the chargers
fierce laurel
what
dreamy bramble
unless you are incredibly slow crossing that room then the amount of waves don’t change much
candid pelican
Idk if he knows
dreamy bramble
lol i’ve done d2 a few times
candid pelican
How far did you get?
dreamy bramble
they’re pretty cute
candid pelican
Tanks are cuties
fierce laurel
I was running it with some friends and they just told me to run
and I was fucking terrified
dreamy bramble
i dragged a new player from b4 into d2 and we first tried it
fierce laurel
honestly I'd rather they didn't make it 4 tanks
dreamy bramble
i don’t think his heart was ready for the end though
fierce laurel
tanks aren't that scary
candid pelican
Its 3 tanks
candid pelican
I only saw 3 on my bio tracker
fierce laurel
time to check captain alphas
candid pelican
@fierce laurel d1?
candid pelican
i gotta get on my pc first
candid pelican
lmao
fierce laurel
"Captain Alpha
3 days ago (edited)
- 4 tanks spawn all at once.
- A code will pop up on screen, at 1:24:39"
dreamy bramble
i think it’s actually three tbh
we never got a clear look on our initial run
and on follow up runs i only ever saw 3
though one of them could have been stuck somewhere
hasty moth
Idk if he knows
Oh I know I've played d2 about 20 times now, got to the last sec-door then one of my guys got eaten by the ||tank|| haven't gotten that close since 😦
Its definitely 3, and they fast boys
dreamy bramble
i’ve never seen a team die there, that’s unlucky
fierce laurel
I forced my friends to speedrun it because I only had an hour to play before I had to leave
dreamy bramble
alert mother room for speed
fierce laurel
||honestly the class nine isn't as bad as I thought it would be||
dreamy bramble
the c9 is very easy mostly due to the room layout
that tile is great for lining up sleepers
brittle light
so uh
diminish alarm
as far as I understand it's many small waves (like 6-7 sleepers and maybe a giant)
am I correct in the understanding that it's smaller waves, but more often / near constantly if you fight back?
orchid sorrel
diminished alarms spawn less enemies
sullen cloud
i believe so, the wiki is updated with that alarm so it has a better description
dire notch
what zone is the password protected terminal in C-3 in?
dire notch
you mean E1?
calm vessel
i'd check out #gtfo-chat lot of good people there, i think some of them might have beaten it.
dire notch
😄
calm vessel
A1 is very hard
orchid sorrel
has anyone beaten a1 yet? seems impossible
it's so hard man... it's crazy
vapid moon
you mean E1?
no, ive beaten e1 twice, ez stuff
dire notch
Sarcasm self test, complete
vapid moon
you mean E1?
but a1 is a little too tuff for me
jokes aside, a1 actually took me the longest to beat
orchid sorrel
really?
vapid moon
well aside from e1, e1 took half a week, but a1 took a few days LMAO
solemn wigeon
do you remember the number 😄
Do you remember what zone you start in
vapid moon
everything else was first try or second try, a1 took my whole life savings
dire notch
Do you remember what zone you start in
371
solemn wigeon
Then 376
mortal granite
"Captain Alpha
3 days ago (edited)
1. 4 tanks spawn all at once.
2. A code will ...
i only heard from my teammate Mit with a bio said it was 4 tanks
dire notch
Who/what are we uploading data to in uplink missions anyways? A offsite server that SSIC has? Or something else…
lost holly
hardcore bdsm hentai
queen nymph
Too true
dire notch
We are sending SSIC their hentai? Makes sense
In all seriousness though where is the data being sent to? Dreyfus? SSIC? KDS?
queen nymph
Depends on the level, mostly they are just gaining access to the next mission or turning on the reactor in the next tier
gleaming cedar
C3 dang, made it to the class 7 alarm. Any tips?
heavy wave
Class 7 was one you can deal alot with only hammers, just move often and alot around.
dire notch
Stick together
heavy wave
until the team scans
dire notch
Maybe equip a scan speed increase booster
heavy wave
then hold your ground with guns
gleaming cedar
ok, scan speed booster and melee. yeah I used up the ammo on the class 6. didn't expect class 7 😮
atomic escarp
@dire notch to answer your XIII scan you said in general, there's never been that high of an alarm to my knowledge unless i'm forgetting something but i doubt it
dire notch
In zone 377 you will get a lot of resourses. Don’t be afraid to use your tools ( turrets, croak, etc)
fierce laurel
wait there was a class 13?
dire notch
I believe so
gleaming cedar
there's a class 8?
heavy wave
the highest i met was class 10
dire notch
Could be wrong
atomic escarp
there's never been a class XIII
heavy wave
it was a R2B1
gleaming cedar
c3-> its all scans 
candid pelican
r2 sounded hard as hell
heavy wave
it got nerfed to class 8 afterward
fierce laurel
ah
atomic escarp
Yes R2B1 had an insane scan but it was nerfed
fierce laurel
I thought that went from 9 to 7
dire notch
r2 sounded hard as hell
2 words. The Crib
fierce laurel
wait
dire notch
I still havent managed the crib
Well you won’t be able too. R2 is gone
fierce laurel
a B tier had a class 13??
heavy wave
unless
fierce laurel
oh
dire notch
a B tier had a class 13??
It had a class ten
fierce laurel
oh
dire notch
Just as bad
fierce laurel
I see now
heavy wave
I heard class 10, i remember class 10
dire notch
the R2B1 was nerfed
Pure hell. To slightly easier
heavy wave
and it went to 8
candid pelican
Pure hell to still pure hell but not as much
queen nymph
Class 10 was nerfed to 8
dire notch
Space cops?
heavy wave
I mean, the class 9 from d2 isnt such a problem
hexed vapor
Went from IX to VII.
dire notch
The space cop is here guys. Run
fierce laurel
so many different answers
dire notch
But yea. R2E1 was.
queen nymph
Haha
dire notch
Ooooooof
queen nymph
Yeah class 9 to 7
dire notch
bring back R2E1 as an event or something
The first example of an error alarm in the game
hexed vapor
Well, on a door.
dire notch
That was what made it so difficult. The novelty
hexed vapor
Nobody was that good at GTFO back in the day as well, really.
heavy wave
^
dire notch
Nobody was that good at GTFO back in the day as well, really.
This
atomic escarp
Was I right in saying it was from 9 to 7 on R2B1?
heavy wave
E1 made people better
hexed vapor
R2 was the first rundown with any properly difficult content, and even then they had to nerf a lot of it.
queen nymph
You’re right Kerse
hexed vapor
Yeah, Kerse
atomic escarp
awesome.
queen nymph
Stop autocorrecting the s to z 
queen nymph
Curze
atomic escarp
Cuze
dire notch
R2 was the first rundown with any properly difficult content, and even then they...
R1D1 was fun. Running through a dark corridor being chased by a horde of shadow sleepers. VERY. VERY. memorable
hexed vapor
It was neat, but definitely not very difficult.
dire notch
R2 was also the first time we found the Kook aid stations
queen nymph
Then we have stupid amount of errors since R3 💩
hexed vapor
You could do three alarms in a row w/ the correct set up, skipping the majority of the side zones.
dire notch
You could do three alarms in a row w/ the correct set up, skipping the majority ...
Yep
atomic escarp
My order is this best to worst in my opinion:
R1
R5
R4
R2
R3
This includes extensions
heavy wave
I liked R1 too
hexed vapor
R5 > R2 > R4 > R1 > R3
candid pelican
r3 was pretty good
dire notch
R1 was just. Mmm. So good. Nostalgia maybe influencing me but it was p good
hexed vapor
So the only unique levels in that rundown? :P
atomic escarp
we met the first mother in R3B2 right?
dire notch
r3 was pretty good
Ah cmon. Get out of here space cop
candid pelican
we met the first mother in R3B2 right?
i think so
candid pelican
Ah cmon. Get out of here space cop
am space cop
heavy wave
I like R5D1.. even though i wipe alot at it
queen nymph
Yep
candid pelican
the extreme section is fun
dire notch
am space cop
Are we gonna do this every time Flare? I won’t object if you don’t 😄
queen nymph
R5D1 high shouldn’t be a problem tho
heavy wave
I would prob like R5E1 if i managed to finish D1 or D2
candid pelican
Are we gonna do this every time Flare? I won’t object if you don’t 😄
space
queen nymph
Should be easier without fog
candid pelican
gotta have that space fog
heavy wave
D2 was fun too
candid pelican
i only like the extraction sequence for d2
queen nymph
Oof
heavy wave
And B4 have a good new mission type
heavy wave
the novelty was good
dire notch
And B4 have a good new mission type
I mean… eh. All it is doing is defending the Space Reactor without the reactor part
queen nymph
First time you have to go out of the reactor zone and the zones that are directly connected to the reactor zone to find the code
dire notch
I liked b3 extreme. And c 2 overload. Holding your ground against space aliens
atomic escarp
R4E1 extreme was only fun if you were getting the codes in my opinion.
queen nymph
R4E1 Extreme was fun until the last code zone 
atomic escarp
Wasn't that the 4 shadow scout room?
dire notch
So. Character customization in R6 now that we unfroze the people that are UNDOUBTEDLY going to be hostile towards us?
heavy wave
and tons of giants shadows
queen nymph
“Hey, just saying you have 4 scouts in the tiny room and shadows have blocked your way to the terminal you need. Have fun” 🙂
hexed vapor
2 shadow titans and 1-2 pods of shadows I think.
dire notch
I mean. KDS wouldent willingly work with LEGION would they?
hexed vapor
They won't remember anything most likely.
They'll probably be sent down in the same way we are.
dire notch
Kovac? Or legion?
hexed vapor
Legion will be.
dire notch
Yea. But wasn’t the whole point of going to Kovac deep to get more meat puppets for BIOCOM/Warden/ whatever other alias it has
To use
dire notch
That’s nice and all, but what’s stopping them from turning on us? KDS and legion are 2 separate entities
hexed vapor
?????
KDS isn't present, presumably legion won't turn on anyone the same reason we don't turn on the Warden?
atomic escarp
Just curious is it always 4 shadow scouts in E1 Zone 541?
dire notch
KDS isn't present, presumably legion won't turn on anyone the same reason we don...
Legion is Hackett. Bishop. Woods. Dauda. And anyone else we don’t know about
atomic escarp
okay so by chance.
mortal granite
8
hexed vapor
Legion is Hackett. Bishop. Woods. Dauda. And anyone else we don’t know about
All prisoners are legion, all HSUs in KDS Deep should also be legion.
dire notch
KDS are the security guys. Not the prisoners
atomic escarp
Isn't this chat best for #gtfo-lore ????
atomic escarp
mortal granite
it's a little confusing when you wake up all the scout in that zone
atomic escarp
To my knowledge there's not been a zone within any rundown that's had more than 6 shadow scouts
fierce laurel
didnt the R4E1 fog room have like 8
atomic escarp
You mean through the stealth zones?
nocturne flax
I believe theres only 6 scouts in the stealth section in r4e1
exotic sable
Bioscan speed increase. does that help the small circles from the security doors? 🤨
mortal granite
small red circle?
exotic sable
yeah
exotic sable
I'm talking about Boosters that increase bioscan speed. does that just work on just the door scan or the small red circles as well
exotic sable
It's ok
mortal granite
yes
exotic sable
I feel stupid for asking this xD
mortal granite
it worked on every single scan
orchid sorrel
to turn on a generator
you walk up to the generator with the cell and it should give you a prompt to insert the cell
if you don't have the cell, find a terminal and type "List cell e_(zonenumber)"
fierce laurel
"hydrogen thingy"
meager mango
thick burrow
didnt the R4E1 fog room have like 8
6
shy vessel
All prisoners are legion, all HSUs in KDS Deep should also be legion.
technically dauda was never in the legion program when it was operational. he still had all his memories when he locked himself in an HSU to escape the sleepers that were overrunning the complex so it's safe to say dauda stayed active and not in legion until at least 2054
same with schaeffer by the looks of it. my guess is that they all went into HSU's to escape the sleepers / virus and then the warden took it from there, anyways offtopic
granite token
D1 is just a huge minefield
dire notch
if you don't have the cell, find a terminal and type "List cell e_(zonenumber)"
e?
you mean zone?
orchid sorrel
you mean zone?
it does the same exact thing but just is quicker
you can type zone if you want to
dire notch
didnt know that . thx
obtuse surge
it doesn't do the same exact thing
they're different filters
it returns whatever matches the filter
it'll match fog turbines for example
it's not the same
hexed vapor
technically dauda was never in the legion program when it was operational. he st...
Right, I mention as much, but HSUs were only meant for legion at least from what we know (and it would be odd if anyone else used them outside of escaping sleepers).
orchid sorrel
it's not the same
I know it's not the same, but it's the fastest way to get basically the same results.
dark bane
reason to go into zone 373 on C4?
candid pelican
C3 you mean?
Resource room i think
dire notch
reason to go into zone 373 on C4?
C3 you mean? ammo pack (a very rare commodity in that level) and a log
as well as some other stuff but mainly the ammo
jaunty hedge
oblique peak
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candid pelican
Thanks
oblique peak
atomic escarp
Thank you the bot will automatically delete the spam nazi symbols
glass surge
Good grief, what a tasteless attempt at trolling
mortal granite
it's just spam account
modest nebula
i don't if it's the right place but..
can anyone help me out with some info?
we got a bit stuck on C3
in the room with 4 terminals.
it feels like the wave of sleepers is to damn huge to hold them off
so can anyone give me some good advice?
i've seen some guys play on yt and one of them was agroing the sleepers away from the room
but are there any other strats?
atomic escarp
Lace the previous room with mines (the room you did the alarm in)
atomic escarp
Preferably at a height that only hybrids can trigger
If you have a sniper sentry, drop it on the hallway east tracking west when looking into the uplink zone
atomic escarp
I've done it
atomic escarp
Oh, also, the two people defending the uplink cunts can stand near the door, maybe near the stairs
west crow
Ricardo could you please refrain from calling the prisoners cunts as one of those prisoners might be dauda and dauda is too lovely to be disrespected like that
Thank you
forest horizon
trying to hold the door with the way their pathing works is pretty much impossible
its gonna be chaotic no matter what from what I've seen
hollow socket
its gonna be chaotic no matter what from what I've seen
This. C3 uplink is gonna be chaotic.
Ricardo gave you the strat I also used to do the level : mines the room before where you did the Class 7 M, put sniper sentry west looking east and try to hold. Your goal is not to die, you can kite in the room if needed and the dudes on the terminal can also shoot sleepers during their downtime.
Good luck on the second uplink, cause you have two sides to defend, and lots of hybrids
atomic escarp
trying to hold the door with the way their pathing works is pretty much impossib...
I forgot where we "tried" to funnel them to but its the stairs' wall on the left going in the zone
Its also safe to put safety mines on the uplink cunts so they know when they have some on them
west crow
Ricardo please refrain from calling the prisoners cunts as you might be indirectly calling dauda a cunt which is disrespectful to dauda and he just doesn't deserve that kind of disrespect
atomic escarp
I physically can't
rich estuary
:(
modest nebula
thank you, will try
dire notch
why are they uplink cunts
candid pelican
Because uplinks are painful
glass surge
You say that like the whole game isnt painful
solemn wigeon
Uplinks are fun
fierce laurel
our group just had people standing next to the person on the uplink
clear idol
our group just had people standing next to the person on the uplink
for C3 or
fierce laurel
c3
queen field
L
queen field
3 per uplink
queen field
They take a lot of time to be confirmed
fallen badger
just awkward going to other terminals
queen field
along with the alarm that's a bit crazy & the fact 2 people (1 if you get both central & north terminals linked together) are focused on the uplink parts, that makes it kinda hard
keen rampart
what is your opinion to the Burst sentry overall guys?
obtuse surge
just has horrible aim
you can actually get it boosted to the point where it oneshots smalls
but even then it's still not that great
because it misses more than half
candid dragon
does it struggle with stationary targets?
obtuse surge
it can still be used to slightly damage most of the horde
which can be helpful based on what weapons you bring
while a sniper sentry would just kill part of the horde
and leave the other part at full health
unless changed recently, burst sentry should target head
which is part of the reason why it's actually worse
it's poor accuracy would perform better when just aiming mid body
mystic adder
Unless its intentional, the turrets cant aim up at short ranges but still shoot into air burning ammo. Not really an issue with the sniper or auto, really hurts the burst tho. Perhaps each turret just needs its own primary target? big head for sniper, closest for auto, small strikers for burst.
nocturne flax
If we are talking about distance then shotgun and burst sentry needs to be closest
also aiming for body shots
auto doesnt really matter since its job its to puke bullets at a choke and thats it
sniper imo doesnt matter either since most sentry placement facing theyre backs and it oneshots everything
errant vigil
Buffing burst accuracy would most likely make it too good
nocturne flax
it would put in on part with the other sentries
sniper its too good too and nobody complains
errant vigil
Sniper would be dogshit if it had burst or auto accuracy
I think the only tool rn that’s balanced is mine
nocturne flax
so we buff burst to have better accuracy
errant vigil
Bio is also fine now too
nocturne flax
I think the only tool rn that’s balanced is mine
Thats a hot take
errant vigil
How
tepid jasper
clear idol
depends where you want to hold
you can hold middle and place cfoam tripmines to cfoam tank and kill it that way
then kill mom if you have no bioscan speed
you can hold a corner and walk the tank in a slow circle until scan is done
ive seen it done multiple ways
fierce laurel
Bio is also fine now too
things more inconsistent than my #%^ life
modest echo
In the D2 Z285 scan, to get the cell for the class 9 door, is it normal to have chargers spawn in those waves?
mortal granite
oh nah
the cell zones
1 side with 2 doors that hard to set up but easy wave
1 side with 1 door that easy to set up but with charger and shooter wave
placid sparrow
what's the difference between the class 6 and class 7 alarm in c2 high?
pure bough
1 cell in class 6 and 2 cells in class 7 room I believe
fierce laurel
you always want to go to the one with 1 cell
I'm not sure which one it is
the mixed one
quiet hound
yeah class 7 is a bit of a troll
lost holly
isnt there literally a cell in the zone with all the doors
lost holly
how many c2 completions?
fierce laurel
me?
lost holly
ye
fierce laurel
2
lost holly
then you should know
fierce laurel
I have absolutely no idea
hexed vapor
I prefer the two-cells for some routes, tbh.
Depends on what objectives you want.
For main specifically, it's just easier to do the class VI if you know what you're doing rather than opening two other zones.
atomic escarp
I do find the Class VI and that respective zone more fun to do.
hasty moth
So about boosters, I heard from someone who heard from somone that there is an aggressive in every zone.
How true is that? 👀
quiet stone
err... pretty much yeah
cedar pike
whats the bug
obtuse surge
different layout
shy vessel
why does the steam broadcast thing show devs streaming a bugged A3 what
probably a dev build
brittle light
Going LIVE now! Something different today?
Twitter message before the stream
What they doing ova der
obtuse surge
but they didn't stream before its release
so in that case it would mean they pre-recorded playing on an early build
it makes no sense what
hexed vapor
Either running a different build.... or they just changed the seed lol.
Oh, B1 w/ a different seed
Do they even know?
hexed vapor
Inb4 surge in fog.
queen field
😳
hexed vapor
Well, it's not that new, but we had 4x damage shotgun sentry back then.
@obtuse surge That layout change is apparently in current patch
Just checked 93 in my build.
nocturne flax
why does the steam broadcast thing show devs streaming a bugged A3 what
i see r5c1
obtuse surge
the stuff i saw on A3 isn't tho
hexed vapor
Which vod?
lofty sun
why does the steam broadcast thing show devs streaming a bugged A3 what
Dev build
obtuse surge
but why
barren notch
On D1 when does the door to zone 73 open?
thick burrow
After you shut down the reactor
barren notch
Ok. And its constant alarm when the reactor is off?
thick burrow
Ok. And its constant alarm when the reactor is off?
What do you mean?
An error alarm? Yes
barren notch
Ok thanks. Thats what we thought
thick burrow
hexed vapor
E1 seems a little soloable, has anyone tried it yet?
queen nymph
Haven’t seen any yet
brittle light
oh right, off-topic - did anyone ever manage to get far in R4E1 solo? I remember some people trying, but almost everyone went "impossible" at the S scans.
did anyone manage to do it near the end, or was that a never-done thing?
queen nymph
It’s fine to do S scan. It just means you have to kite as long as you can and finish the scan before they route back to you
It’s more of the fact that if anyone wants to solo it. Last time we had a duo record but turned out they were cheating
At least they fix the bug that solo player needs to stand in the scan for 3-4 mins in order to finish the S scan when the full team can get the small S scan done in 30 seconds 🤡
brittle light
so, no one did it in the end..? sad.
orchid sorrel
it's sad that they normalized s1 scan speeds 
brittle light
eh, it's alright. A bit sad, but also understandable.
queen nymph
It’s still longer than 4 man speed but at least now it’s more playable for solo player…?
orchid sorrel
it's barely slower
hexed vapor
Well, I've reached the first error.
Not really sure how to play it from here tbh.
Hybrids are gonna be a pain.
orchid sorrel
I feel like the beginning of this r5e1 is a little easier than r4e1
hexed vapor
It's very doable.
orchid sorrel
probably, but it would probably take a lot of time
brittle light
probably, but it would probably take a lot of time
I mean, if you aren't in a top or at least very good group missions can easily take up to 3 or 4 hours at times
nothing new tbh
I mean, R4D2 regularely had people take 3h+ on their non-speedrun-strats PE attempts
iirc
hexed vapor
I dunno, I think you'll struggle to clear E1 if you can't reach the first error in under an hour, probably considerably less time.
Welp, that didn't go well
think I had 3 hybrids up at once.
Prolly should have fought them in the dig room instead of trying to get past.
brittle light
I dunno, I think you'll struggle to clear E1 if you can't reach the first error ...
R5E1 is a different thing
This one defo can't be cleared if you take way too long since errors aren't just hammer but actually annoying and possibly stronk enemies
R4E1 took it's sweet time after a certain point, but if you took to long to put in the cells in the beginning the tanks eventually got you since hammering tanks is something I believe no one has managed to pull off yet
R4D2's only error was when getting the overload cargo to extract, so you could take your sweet time - provided you were fine with fog.
so long times aren't unusual, but long times on E1 levels are... concering
*concerning
orchid sorrel
the fog also lowered in r4e1
hexed vapor
Well, the first error is pretty hammerable, but not the other two.
queen nymph
At least this E1 needs to use a bit of your brain cell to find out where the cells are and where to go before you start anything
And I like the idea of turning off the error by putting code in the specific terminal
Even though the level might be easier than the previous E1s, it’s good that they are putting some efforts on the current game mechanic and redefine it in different way
clear idol
do you think they got the idea from the bug that allowed people to turn off errors at uplink terminals?
queen nymph
I don’t think so
orchid sorrel
or they already had it planned
hexed vapor
I don't think R5E1 is that much easier tbh, it just orders its difficulty differently.
queen nymph
I know lots of people hate error alarms are being overused and wanting a mechanic that can turn it off
I think that’s where the devs decide to put this in the game
fossil jetty
Is there any tips for dealing with surge alarms? Feels like my team can't kill them before the ball gets on top of us
forest horizon
cfoam and mines probably
regal thicket
shoot harder
fossil jetty
How about movement? My team usually tries to stay on the scan unless we start dropping
fossil jetty
C2
queen nymph
Oh the last one?
fossil jetty
just in general
but yea
when I mean in general, I just mean surge alarms regardless of level
queen nymph
Depends on the map tbh that’s why I asked
For C2 Final, you can either open left or right door to funnel them going one side then focus on setting up on that specific side
Or you can do the old fashion way, do a long kite for every single scan without setting up anything 💩
fossil jetty
Or you can do the old fashion way, do a long kite for every single scan without ...
yup, have been doing that when we eventually drop
queen nymph
Surge scan used to be called kiting scan because there are no weapon to hold the large group of enemies
But now you have booster/ HEL weapons
Which you don’t need to do that anymore
fossil jetty
but I "think" I heard that Devs made levels with out needing to kite an absurd amount
or am i wrong
queen nymph
You still can, but the need is decreased
Because of the weapons we have given. Long kite is not necessary
Just don’t shoot your teammate with HEL rifle in the scan and you will be fine
fossil jetty
Hmmm aight
main iris
New weps?
queen nymph
One
main iris
Ah
queen nymph
A primary weapon that can headshot scout
bold widget
You can kill scouts with every weapon actually
brittle light
ye
it's just insanely difficult
also, *almost every weapon
iirc at least in R4 one of the pistols wasn't quite up to the task, the autopistol
everything else worked
not sure how it's in this rundown
bold widget
I tried it 3 days ago with the pistol and assault rifle in a2 extreme works
brittle light
yee autopistol didn't work since many shots for stagger
nearly 0 damage
pistol works
I don't think autopistol exists, so every weapon should be able to kill rn
if you aim extremely well that is
bold widget
Assault rifle has to land every bullet at the back of the head thoe and when you shoot it it flinches making it more difficult
mortal granite
You can kill scouts with every weapon actually
1 shot that is
brittle light
yep
mortal granite
even hel revolver in R4 ext can't do that
bold widget
The dmr 2 shot thoe, so satisfying
I forgot if it was two or three bullets at the back with the hel revolver that is
The revolver needs 3 at front
Never really managed to pull it off but i imagine at point black range it should work
brittle light
at that point u can just melee it if it foamed, can't you?
mortal granite
you want to know how many shots to kill the scout
then that's your answer
easy to pull off
and also not alert the scout either
bold widget
Lmao
brittle light
hollow socket
@brittle light Cool to see you back here.
Wesley tried to solo R4E1, he managed to go to the second S1 scan by capping shooters, but at this point you audio die and the game crash.
People are definitely bonking tanks, even multiple at the same time.
And if I remember well, we managed to kill a scout once with an autopistol after numerous tries 🙂
brittle light
nice.
Ye I'm bacc for now. Been inactive in this game for a while, gotta catch up 😅
need A3 and anything B+
but eh, I have time.
also damn, good work Wesley
audio die and game crashes XD that's gotta be real annoying
are you sure people are bonking multiple tanks at the same time
hollow socket
Yes 🙂
I did 😄
We have some pretty good layout to do it with the Extention 😉
Never tried to bonk a Mother yet, but I know some people who managed it
brittle light
neat.
obtuse surge
when d2 spawns 3 tanks but you've already dealt with 5 at the same time with no ammo on B3
obtuse surge
do you think they got the idea from the bug that allowed people to turn off erro...
allowed
clear idol
well unintentionally