gtfo-spoiler-chat

[elfin spindle]

How to kill a ||charger Scout|| we sniped it in the head with a hel rifle, and one of us tried to hit the back of the head with a hammer but it still screamed without a head

[errant vigil]

It has no precision multi

Only way to kill it with hammer is two to the back

Sniper can one hit it in the back

[turbid cliff]

hel rifle can do that too and much more ammo efficient

also shotgun

also foam

[lavish ice]

Can the hel gun do it as well?

[errant vigil]

I mean it can yes, but is it practical no

[lavish ice]

How exactly does it make it impractical?

[errant vigil]

You need a cfaom nade so it doesn't alert or two people shooting it in the back at the same time

[lavish ice]

Ah

[pine sapphire]

where can I find terminal in zone 98 on B1?

[lyric narwhal]

is that the hsu zone to the east?

i think thats at the back room north side?

[pine sapphire]

yeah

found it

thanks

failed anyway lol

[lyric narwhal]

damn

[brittle light]

I haven't played it yet, how bad is B2 that everyone hates it

it's fun to watch everyone complain rn, but the moment I get around to playing it myself it's likely going to be pain

[subtle vault]

yes

Fog

[brittle light]

ah.

fog.

how much fog?

[subtle vault]

and wallsacks

a lot

extreme is hell

[brittle light]

AH
Foggy wallsacks. Of course.

extreme is hell why?

[subtle vault]

a lot of fog

[brittle light]

was beeg scout there or was beeg scout B3 ext

[subtle vault]

The new enemy is in B1 overload

[thin palm]

Can you kill the new scout with hell rifle to the back of the head (1 shot) ?

[turbid cliff]

no head multiplier on that thing

from the back anywhere kills

[thin palm]

Thanks

[trim plume]

any tips on how to find the HSU in B1? If we stealth then it takes way too long and we get swarmed by big chargers

• the rooms have way too many chargers and big chargers

[lyric narwhal]

well if its 96 the terminal should be just past the door at the top of the stairs and the terminal in 98 is in the easmost room on the north side

so i hope that helps

[trim plume]

ahh, then i was just extremely unlucky

because that eastmost room has so, so many chargers in it and they're all bunched up together

[lyric narwhal]

i usually find it best to just try to quickly backshot as many normie chargers as i can on the way and if theres a frontspawn back up to shoot

[trim plume]

so basically just go loud for that room?

[lyric narwhal]

usually keep a couple people covering the backside as well

[trim plume]

yeh we had 2 cover the backside

[lyric narwhal]

youve also gotta make sure they arent too far away so you can group up on the scan when you find it quicker

[trim plume]

yeh alright

[lyric narwhal]

its nice to have them covering 2 rooms away so they dont inadvertently alert the enemies of whatever room youre in

[gloomy surge]

Can anyone here explain the mechanics of the black cieling sacs. It seems like they just respawn part of the room when you leave - but unless im miss understanding it, seems kinda busted - Sometimes if i leave the room, the previous room immediately respawns and if im in a gunfight it wakes them up on top of what i have currently

[lyric narwhal]

they respawn when you're 2 rooms away

if it gets annoying you can have someone spawnblock by standing in the room

and if youre expecting to shoot just dont forget about the cocoon rooms

[gloomy surge]

Some rooms (i have tested this) respawn the second you leave the room

[turbid cliff]

it's a new feature that doesn't feel quite "done"

we don't know its mechanics for certain yet

but if you can provide a video of them respawning like you said that'd be nice

[gloomy surge]

Yea sure! I dont have the actual room numbers (im a solo player so itll take a while to get them) but THey are the Cluster alarm room in A1High and the Big room right after the high bulkhead door in A2High (with the scout initially in it, its the same room as the tank fight room in the previous rundown)

[turbid cliff]

can't say for certain but i think that's 2 rooms away

i don't know though

[gloomy surge]

No like those were the rooms that you can see the respawns when you leave the room

[turbid cliff]

o wait i'm dumb i read that as cluster alarm room and another big room

[gloomy surge]

Ohh aha okay cool, yea i probably just said it werid

[honest mortar]

Any shadows on c1?

Didn't want to get to the end of the run and wipe over no bio

[subtle vault]

how do you get the other characters to react to another characters log

[frozen dagger]

i think it's just a weird bug where voice lines don't seem to work like they're supposed to

[subtle vault]

damn

got it to work once

[frozen dagger]

dayum how?

[high forge]

There are in extreme

[subtle vault]

It was me and a friend. Woods and dauda. Woods said "Thats bishop, god help him". But I have seen a video where the reacted to them with everyone there

[livid stone]

are boosters team wide?

[frozen dagger]

if you're talking about one person applying a booster, and it applys to the rest of the team, then no

[mossy yoke]

artifacts collected are team wide, boosters awarded are only to you, but their effects can vary between only you (e.g. regen cap, terminal processing speed), or team wide (bioscan speed, ammo support which gives more ammo per resource use)

[frozen dagger]

ah thats the better way to describe it lol

[turbid cliff]

hol' up

if you get a booster that improves resource efficiency, that applies to resources you use on teammates?

[livid stone]

then i think there's a bug

team and i think the infect res applies to everyone

[mossy yoke]

If you have a resource like ammo support which is efficiency using ammo packs, then it applies to you the person with the booster, meaning that when you use an ammo pack on yourself or others, you give more ammo.

you are more efficient using it

if you hover over the booster effect it should tell you what it does

[turbid cliff]

yeah it was just confusing between "i get more ammo from all ammo packs applied on me" vs "everyone gets more ammo from all ammo packs i use"

[jolly raven]

@mossy yoke When we will have command for booster/artifact description so we don't have to type each time when someone asks what it means?

[mossy yoke]

DM @jaunty hedge and ask the mods

[tribal cosmos]

Would be nice if c2 overload can be a bit less luck based

we range our progress from 80% to dying at 20%

the place where some of the enemy spawns just isn't really fun

getting sandwished by two groups of big chargers is really something you should keep in adult contents

[candid pelican]

does the fog in c2 overload disappear if you do extreme first?

or is it possible to get rid of it?

[tribal cosmos]

fog is a high obj

the cells

extreme is the reactor

overload is the imba crap

[candid pelican]

do you need to plug in bulkhead for high to rid fog then?

[tribal cosmos]

you can get three cells by doing the doors in high and the blooddoor

it is already enough for overload

the real problem of that level is the overload obj, either regulate the spawns or make the enemies more manageable

At least in r2e1 you got bigger rooms to kite. and those fast giant weren't even a thing yet.

[candid pelican]

so... is that a yes to no fog in overload?

[honest mortar]

Using 3 cells you should have no fog

Welp, just got my butt kicked at C1 extraction..... may be my least favorite level.

Loved C2 and the B's

[tribal cosmos]

just leave one guy at bridge

and there should be no more hybrid

three guys is enough for all the terminals

[honest mortar]

Thats just smart planning. 😛

Honestly the problem is that a random striker aggroed for no reason three rooms away past two sets of closed doors and ruined the doors for the last terminal.

[tribal cosmos]

if the host is on the bridge the strikers will never spawn in those doors

they will spawn beyond the bridge

it's kinda stupid

[honest mortar]

Nice to know

This was pre-terminal, right when we entered the last zone

that he agroed

[tribal cosmos]

sadage

[desert python]

we've had fun with baiting horde on the last terminal to go all around the room, sniper sentries and C1 are a perfect match too, one damned striker screwed us over on the way out cuz the room was loaded with hybrids

[honest mortar]

We did pretty good with the broken door being the furthest one from the terminal. The open door baited them around the long way. Will definitely be bringing a sniper next time, but we found that a burst sentry set up for the first S1 scan at the top of the canals ladder is super OP.

[desert python]

We've done 2 sniper and one auto as emergency in case horde that gone through was too big

there's a great spot outside the last terminal room if you bait the horde all around, it can shoot at both doors

just on the boxes on that platform between them

[tribal cosmos]

we just c-foam and mined the door...

damn

i felt we were too cheesy

[desert python]

sniper sentries killed plenty of them and we used c-foam grenade on the door closest to the cocoon room as it filled with enemies, also we used deployable mine on it

kept the small door on the back opened for a while

[atomic escarp]

Ok so I guess we need those bioscan boosters for C2 overload...

[desert python]

had to use auto on the doors closest to cocoon room when they busted through as they took it as the fastest route to us, as long as no shot was taken in A no hybrids got alerted

[honest mortar]

What are the waves made up of for the extreme door?

^^^ as in the error alarm.

[tribal cosmos]

you mean the one after you done your extreme terminal?

shadow giant

[honest mortar]

Nope, just the normal extraction waves

[tribal cosmos]

i don't remember there were any

[desert python]

somehow even tho I got to R4E1 I have never seen shadows

sad

[honest mortar]

lolololol Our run must have been super glitched

[tribal cosmos]

because we blocked all the respawn thingy

so no hybrid or normal

just shadows and shadow giant

shadows from the last terminal

[honest mortar]

we had the random aggro's twice that run. And then the waves kept coming after the second terminal for high was done.

We thought it was just a huge error alarm that you had to deal with during extreme / extraction.

But it was full waves

[desert python]

[*]

[tribal cosmos]

normally after you killed all the shadows, then there should be only shadow giant

yours seemed a bit weird

[honest mortar]

This was just a high run.

The waves continued after the second terminal was over.

[tribal cosmos]

after high it does start an error

with 4 strikers

[honest mortar]

hmmm... our error seemed like it was still sending terminal waves

Even kited around to make sure it wasn't just a strange last wave or two.

(my secret guess is that a team mate probably aggroed an extra respawn room and didnt tell) <--- makes more sense.

[tribal cosmos]

lol

[honest mortar]

Shame, but at least I know for next time. I was dreading extreme like that. 😛

[tribal cosmos]

c1 is ok if you can outsmart the level

still hates c2 overload for the random bullocks

[honest mortar]

tried the scout cheese?

[tribal cosmos]

what do you mean?

[honest mortar]

Its super random if you do it the right way. It can be done but its so rng

Use the rooms with the respawning scouts to hit the spawn limit with strikers.

[tribal cosmos]

lol

[honest mortar]

Then just kite them instead of dealing with chargers and tanks. 😛

[tribal cosmos]

imma try it tmr

does the tanks spawn tho

after the scout wave

[honest mortar]

don't think so.

As long as you hit the spawn count and then dont kill anyt

[tribal cosmos]

i meant after you kill the scout wave when finished with alarm

[honest mortar]

not sure, always had teammates that sucked at kiting. haha

[tribal cosmos]

ouf

imma try it

cuz it seemed would work

[honest mortar]

I like it both ways and don't mind

Its fun each way but definately rng heavy the normal way

[tribal cosmos]

thanks for the wisdom

[honest mortar]

I know that if you have enough artifacts with scan speed on your team you can have it done before the third tank

and it wont spawn

Same for c1! (wisdom)

Grub time.

[acoustic breach]

Third tank?

[honest mortar]

🙂

[tribal cosmos]

neuron activation?

[acoustic breach]

We didn't even get to 2 because the chargers screwed us

[tribal cosmos]

nsfw content

don't worry about it

[acoustic breach]

You can't kill them all can you

[honest mortar]

*laughs in R4E1

[acoustic breach]

Bruh

[tribal cosmos]

we triggered like 8 scout in E1 and it was still better than overload c2

[acoustic breach]

That was easier

Than this bs

[quiet stone]

It's pretty simple once you figure out what to do

[acoustic breach]

Kite and get lucky?

Cheese?

[toxic dagger]

get gud

[quiet stone]

ye just get gud

[acoustic breach]

I'd rather go solo r2e1 again

[quiet stone]

did you run from one side of the map to the other so they all get stuck on the ladder for the surge scans?

[acoustic breach]

For r2 solo?

[quiet stone]

yup

[acoustic breach]

They didn't get stuck

But yeah, long ass kite

[quiet stone]

Apparently there was a bug where you could get them stuck on the ladder

For C2 Overload you really have to focus the chargers

you can leave the giants alone as they're so slow

tank is pretty easy to dodge

[acoustic breach]

Guess we were just approaching it wrong

[quiet stone]

We played C2 overload for like 14 hours non stop grinding

[acoustic breach]

Still felt a bit luck based tho

[quiet stone]

we tried a lot of different stuff

[acoustic breach]

One game 90% sorta easily

Other dead at 40%

[quiet stone]

Tank and charger spawns in rng, tank is meant to come like every 20% after 40%

but I've had tanks come much sooner

[rain magnet]

Hi all

I am newbie at this game, played once

[quiet stone]

OK well this is spoiler chat

[queen field]

you sure love danger don't you

[toxic dagger]

living on the edge

[quasi citrus]

is there a log in b2

audio log*

[full crater]

4 videos about audiologs on A2

||https://youtu.be/7y-emSorMc8||

||https://youtu.be/Yn01v41zyuI||

||https://youtu.be/swDgsXegW7E||

||https://youtu.be/cEPS-kyNvVE||

Enjoy

[atomic herald]

how ya guys like the double tap rifle

[misty lagoon]

i think that the DMR does the job better

[atomic herald]

yeah I got that vibe too

how about the machinepistol

[misty lagoon]

is good to stagger

but it dosen't anything

[atomic herald]

wish it had tung bullets

[atomic escarp]

Its more of a damage AP than a stagger one

[misty lagoon]

kill*

[nocturne flax]

machine pistol its crazy good on babies

[atomic escarp]

Its literally better at killing than the autopistol

[atomic herald]

yeah but the autopistol had the stagger boost

[misty lagoon]

i dont like the auto or burst guns on gtfo

[atomic herald]

i can kill things with the machinepistol quickly at close range and I like that but meh

[atomic escarp]

Because it had a role (stagger, CC)

[misty lagoon]

i like the pistols and revolvers

and the buff they gave to the dmr is quite nice

[light lagoon]

I mostly stick with the Pistol usually but I've been somewhat enjoying the Heavy SMG, even though I'd probably just be better off with the Pistol

[atomic escarp]

You're better off using the AR than the heavy smg tbh

[light lagoon]

ye I thought as much

[misty lagoon]

heavy smg is kinda pointless

[light lagoon]

but I prefer the sight picture of the Heavy SMG Over the AR

[atomic escarp]

Crimge

AR has a better sight imo

[misty lagoon]

the gun design is good

[atomic herald]

heavy smg has banger sights bro

[light lagoon]

I mean

[atomic escarp]

Red dot, with little clutter

[misty lagoon]

i like the sight of the heavy smg too

but it have the same damage of the smg

almost the same

kinda pointless

the heavy AR in r4 did some good damage

but it was kinda hard to use due to the recoil

[atomic escarp]

It feels like HAR has the same recoil with the MG in R5

[misty lagoon]

i never used the MG

[atomic escarp]

Yikes

[misty lagoon]

i waste 50% of my bullets on the walls

[atomic escarp]

Just pull down

Its not hard once you're used to fighting the recoil

[misty lagoon]

i want to find a good special gun

since i use the dmr

i need have something of close range

the only good options i cant think is the MG and shotguns

[atomic escarp]

R4 MG worked better with DMR

[nocturne flax]

literally 2 shotguns

[misty lagoon]

i'll give it another try sometime

[nocturne flax]

ingame

wut

[misty lagoon]

i know

but one is low on ammo

[atomic escarp]

Since there's more bullets that did less damage

[nocturne flax]

and oneshots everything kekw

[misty lagoon]

but it is a waste to use on normal enemies

[atomic escarp]

DMR and MG is still a good choice

[tulip vale]

I would just like to point out the scariest thing in the game so far is the shooter that got stuck under the ramp in B1

We literally can't kill it

[rancid basalt]

B3 extreme is one spicy meatball

[atomic escarp]

Is there ||only one type of scout or there are severals?||

[tulip vale]

||There are currently 3 types of scouts I think||

[atomic escarp]

||thanks||

[tulip vale]

||You're welcome Imao||

[atomic escarp]

|| ||

[subtle vault]

I hope we see them soon

[jagged marten]

have clear winners for solo weapon choices surfaced this rundown yet

[hexed vapor]

It's most likely SMG, DMR, Burst Rifle, or Double-Tap Rifle, and Shotgun.

[split cipher]

is burst rifle ammo efficient?

[nocturne flax]

Every weapon its as good as the user

[toxic dagger]

most weapons are efficient if you hit your shots

[upper lance]

so are these boosters perks that can be used every run or one time usage?

[calm vessel]

muted are 1 use

[weak jasper]

I have returned from the ass blasting that was B3 extreme

[solemn wigeon]

Bruh I nearly threw hard in B3 extreme

Fun times

[upper lance]

ty ty

[weak jasper]

Spent the last 4ish hours attempting it across two groups

[calm vessel]

its pretty easy if you know what to do

[weak jasper]

We threw hard literally at extract on our second to last attempt

[calm vessel]

: (

[weak jasper]

But yeah our final attempt wasnt too bad cuz we knew everything and prepares properly with boosters

[calm vessel]

you beat it in the end though?

[weak jasper]

Ye

[calm vessel]

[weak jasper]

I grabbed a restock, med and revive speed booster, someone else got a med booster and another got a scan speed booster

[solemn wigeon]

The most uses out of an aggressive I've had is 3 use

[weak jasper]

Just juggled resupplies and kept full stock

[calm vessel]

oh, i might be wrong then mb

[solemn wigeon]

I think muted is 1 use, bold is 2 use and aggressive is 2-3

[weak jasper]

The biggest two things that fucked us was having to fight 3 tanks cuz we ran low on ammo and took too long, then we didnt realize once you finish the final team scan you need to just go cuz its constant waves

[halcyon crescent]

Has anyone got all the audio files logged from A2? (I can spoiler this if need be)

[solemn wigeon]

Thank god for the scan speed booster ey?

[weak jasper]

Yeah it helped with the extreme a ton

[solemn wigeon]

Third times a charm warden xd

Yeah my aggressive scan speed booster was +25% but 2 uses

Yo 4 aggressive +25% scan speed would melt the alarms

[weak jasper]

Restock boosters are nuts dude

The amount of ammo you can get is amazing

[solemn wigeon]

Unfortunately scan speed doesn't go that high 😳

[calm vessel]

yes

[pseudo pumice]

i cant wait until i can edit the wiki

[solemn wigeon]

I'd assume a single aggro would be around 30%

Combining you could reach 50 with perfect rng ig

[weak jasper]

All Im saying is

Reject shotgun embrace hel rifle

[calm vessel]

hel rifle still feels meh to me compared to sniper

[solemn wigeon]

Hel rifle and shotgun are both cracked

[weak jasper]

Hel rifle is nuts on anything with a lot of specials like chargers

[solemn wigeon]

Burst rifle is an easy f tier for me tho

[weak jasper]

Literally 1 shot any distance and collateral potential, plus plenty ammo

Saved me a lot in B tier

Due to all the charger spawns

[halcyon crescent]

did anyone manage to out together anything from the garbled audio?

[weak jasper]

That too, its really good for tanks and mothers if you get a good angle

[halcyon crescent]

corrupted?

[weak jasper]

For our B3 clear we had 3 hel rifles and a shotgun and the shotgun kept burning through ammo while the rest of us were doing just fine and killing more chargers and hybrids lol

Shotgun still feels better on big strikers tho tbf

[halcyon crescent]

if I had the know how, i'd try to work with the audio but 😔

[jagged marten]

in my limited experience its just the assault rifle with a less cluttered scope with less max ammo and forced bursts

you end up wasting ammo killing a striker (1 burst head, then another burst to the body with the second or third shot killing it)

[hearty escarp]

how many new enemies are in this rundown in general? I see the wiki has ||cacoons|| and ||charger scouts|| listed already, do the C or D tier levels introduce anymore enemies or is that it?

[mellow creek]

summary of c1, afk in the first room for 15mins, afk in the bridge for another 15mins, kite for 15mins for extreme and run back for a 100sec scan

[broken zinc]

yup pretty much

[mellow creek]

xD

[errant vigil]

I mean you can fight it

And not cheat the rebirth mechanic

You don't have to kill everything on the way back

quick stealthing and choosing targets can get you through it

[mellow creek]

nah

the constant spawn is gona kill u w 10 hybrids

if both area were to respawn

[errant vigil]

not really but alright

[lucid yoke]

Do the waves from terminal in C1 go after the 1st room/bridge guy or do they just run towards the terminal?

[mellow creek]

depending on which room

and where they spawn

[atomic escarp]

C1 is literally a 3 man map xD

[lucid yoke]

Oh thanks

[twilit remnant]

Charger WHAT n9w

[dark ingot]

anyone have maps yet?

[devout citrus]

Charger Scout........REALLY!! 😤

Can't believe it....I am insulted.....

[half dune]

where do you start seeing tanks and shadows?

[errant vigil]

Tanks as early as b shadows in c

[distant stratus]

Are cocoons on every level?

[sick hornet]

i cant think of any rooms in B1 that have them

same with B2

other than that, i think so

havent played all of D yet but havent seen them

[forest horizon]

Whats the strat for C2 extreme? No sure if it would be better to duck off in potentially the tank room or maybe a different side zone so in the later waves you only have to deal with them coming from one direction

[quiet moth]

theres some secrets around D1 or we'll have to wait until the rundown gets extended?

[errant saffron]

After playing much more, and getting deeper into the complex I see that the respawn mech isn't really all that bad. it's just A1 where it is a real pain.

I think the devs really wanted to drive home the point that there is a respawn mech, and just went a little heavy handed with it.

[forest horizon]

I hope E1 is just gonna be "Even more deeper"

[errant saffron]

"Unbelievably, incredibly, much wow deep"

Quality name there.

[marsh pecan]

If you take into account the envioroment of A1 it seems logically the best place for a 'nest' of spawn cocoons. Plantlife, most likely humid and very well ventilated seeing as there isnt much fog

Same goes for A2, the spawn room in there feels logical seeing as its around a GIANT HOLE

[wind frost]

Rebirth

[marsh pecan]

yes

[nocturne wing]

Any tips on B3. Christ lmao

[forest horizon]

extreme?

or main

[nocturne wing]

Main

[forest horizon]

if you're struggling with the charger wave, you should be able to look up which zone has the key before you start and just rush for it

Its only one alarm and a blood door to get the key

[nocturne wing]

Ah. Seemed much worse. Does the error alarm only spawn them in that main room or do they spawn closer the deeper you go

[forest horizon]

They always spawn two rooms away

Unless your team splits up then they tend to act crazy

[nocturne wing]

Yea we did that once by accident (guy went afk and didn’t tell us) and they kinda spazzed out where they spawned. Worked in our favor largely

[forest horizon]

Generally as long as you rush through you should be able to shoot everything then just take your time finding the key

[nocturne wing]

Run and gun. Alright. How bad is the extreme?

[forest horizon]

Its not terrible, but if you don't know what to expect its almost impossible

If you know what happens then its much easier

[nocturne wing]

So don’t know till you know then you can plan.

[forest horizon]

Pretty much

[nocturne wing]

Appreciate the help.

[forest horizon]

I'd recommend looking up whats in extreme unless you want to go in blind

[nocturne wing]

Nah that doesn’t bother me.

[nocturne flax]

Just fought 8 tanks total in c2 overload haha

[atomic escarp]

enjoy

[nocturne flax]

we won

[forest horizon]

How many are you supposed to get

[nocturne flax]

DN

[grand elk]

i think DN?

[obtuse surge]

yep DN

[forest horizon]

Does DN actually mean anything or am I being whooshed

[nocturne flax]

DEEZ NUTS

[grand elk]

Deez NUTS
GOTEM 4head omegalol

[obtuse surge]

oh no

[nocturne flax]

GOT EEEMMM

[forest horizon]

I fucking knew it lol

[dapper dagger]

[forest horizon]

srs though how did you kill 8 tanks

[nocturne flax]

did we kite tho

yes

[dapper dagger]

2 during scan, 6 after

[forest horizon]

holy fuck

[dapper dagger]

kited at 70% as there were 3 which spawned at the same time basically

[nocturne flax]

3 man

[dapper dagger]

2 snipers + ammo efficiency booster

[obtuse surge]

we had 6 on our clear because we didn't even kill one

and i sniped like 4 of them

[forest horizon]

So you do basically have to circle kite at some point during the scan

[grand elk]

we circle kite, clown kite, figure 8 kite, S kite, reverse uno kite.

[bold widget]

yo lads

[grand elk]

oh wait one more, the DN kite

[bold widget]

in b1 where is the terminal in zone 97

[nocturne flax]

we DN kite too @forest horizon

wanna know what i means

[obtuse surge]

i used the DN booster

[dapper dagger]

i used the DNR main

[forest horizon]

now just don't get blown up by the sneaky mother in extreme then you basically done

[glossy pilot]

brand new to the game, just managed to beat A1 after a few tries, any tips for the A1 optional bulkhead area?

[lyric narwhal]

just remember to clear the respawning enemies before doing an alarm

[gleaming cedar]

check terminals so you know where the packages are behind which doors

[nocturne flax]

weve finish already

[forest horizon]

nice

[nocturne flax]

like an hour ago

I love this c2

[forest horizon]

how did you deal with the mother? just fight her in the main room

or something else

[nocturne flax]

i kinda just got out of the room, i didnt know about mother

we fought her in main room because of that

thankfully we had some fog repellers

[earnest flume]

I was playing on a2 and I wanted to do overload, but I couldn't find a way to open the overload bulkhead door

[nocturne flax]

It on lockdown, you can open it after you grab the box

[earnest flume]

ah thx

[sick hornet]

use the bridge

at least 2 sniper sentries

what do you have

it may get difficult then

[nocturne flax]

burst facing back, auto in some choke

[sick hornet]

i recommend right side bridge (facing from reactor)

[nocturne flax]

easy clap

[fierce laurel]

wait B3 has no overload

why isn't B1 B3 and the other way around

[sick hornet]

because why not

[forest horizon]

because you would expect that

[calm vessel]

are 1's not allowed to have overload?

smh

[languid minnow]

lol

wtf

[sick hornet]

what

[toxic dagger]

jesus

[calm vessel]

lol

[sick hornet]

how many aggros have you gotten at this point

[calm vessel]

pretty good for long kiting

[languid minnow]

dude just sits at 20% all game

[sick hornet]

i have 8 and they are all garbage but 1

[languid minnow]

no reason to heal

[calm vessel]

👀

[languid minnow]

interesting

i totally misunderstood what you were saying until just now, i thought you meant you got 14 muted boosters 💀

[pulsar zodiac]

got a 36% projectile resist <40 hp aggressive

[sick hornet]

i got a 38% proj/melee near teammates

my only good one

i have one that is literally just 2 uses of tool for garbage hacking

[turbid cliff]

what would be the single best booster

[lyric narwhal]

any of the resource efficiency ones

[sick hornet]

scan speed is pretty good

[forest horizon]

I feel like the ones that decrease bioscan time are the best ones

[lyric narwhal]

those are also great

[sick hornet]

especially if you have everyone with them, almost 3x speed

[forest horizon]

Because the effects of less time in scans bleed over into giving you tons of resources

[shy iron]

me standing in the scan with hacking tool in my hands and glow sticks at my feet LOL

[hearty bridge]

What is proper order for C2? Starting from overload or extreme?

[sick hornet]

either one

recommend doing overload first though, its harder

[turbid cliff]

faster terminal commands under glowsticks booster

krappa

[hearty bridge]

thanks 🙂

[obtuse surge]

i have a booster combo that reduces damage i take and increases my regen cap to the point where i can survive 4 hits

but i don't know when i'll finally get to the point where i think its worth using them

[sick hornet]

D1 ext solo

[turbid cliff]

You won't

[obtuse surge]

[haughty juniper]

what to expect in D1???

[lyric narwhal]

everything and the kitchen sink

[haughty juniper]

gotta bring the bleach then clean all this shit out

[valid light]

does charger scout spawn chargers if u aggro it

[queen nymph]

No

[haughty juniper]

it does on D1

[north geyser]

hey guys a2 overload, is it an error or anything?

[devout river]

no

but you do have an alarm going on in the background anyway so

[north geyser]

cause of the high objective right?

[devout river]

yes

[north geyser]

do you have to do high first? cant you just run overload before hand?

[devout river]

no overload only unlocks when you pick the objective up

[north geyser]

lol not even surprising

[toxic tundra]

How hard is pe on a3 and the order if you know?

[queen nymph]

We don’t have A3 this rundown right?

[atomic escarp]

Only A1 and A2 in R5

A3 was in R4

[toxic tundra]

Wait sorry A2

[mellow creek]

A2 is easy if once u know what to expect

in overload

[atomic escarp]

Hello, everyone. So the wave in after you open the door to the retrieve the objective in B1 is infinite wave and we need to look for it as we defend?

[queen nymph]

You need to all go in and find the HSU lol

[limber locust]

any tips for A2 overload? Also, do I have to complete Extreme to do Overload?

[atomic escarp]

Thats crazy. Ty!

[queen nymph]

No you can do high and overload only

[limber locust]

nice! Ty!

[gleaming cedar]

Did some weapon testing in B3 against the charger error alarm. My new favorite special is the Hel Rifle. Easily one shots a charger, and if they line up even better. There's about ||160s ||between error alarms spawning ||5-6 ||chargers and the Hel rifle almost has enough in the magazine per wave. Even though the shotgun got buffed to be able to one shot a charger, I found some of my pellets missing, requiring another shot.

[forest horizon]

are artifacts in some levels supposed to be basically non existent while others are filled with them

went through C1 and literally only one guy found a single muted

rest of the level had nothing

[turbid cliff]

that shit's true in every game and with these things i always end up just never using them

[polar cedar]

Guys, need your help. Where to find a battery to power the door in a1. Or i am idiot and there's no need for a battery?

[nocturne locust]

What happens in the last level of the current rundown

[silver condor]

those are also called "cells"

if you'd like to ping them from a terminal

[polar cedar]

(facepalm) Yeah. I'm blind. Found it. Thanks.

[dusty folio]

geez the b1 charger error alarm doe

[prime yoke]

so apparently the sleepers bumrush you when you grab the cargo in A2.

wouldve been nice to know before we ran it with only 2 people ._.

[nocturne flax]

Get use to it

Assumed from now on, that everything will spawn something

[atomic escarp]

You mean to tell me you don't instinctively pick up the cargo no matter the consequences

[jolly imp]

do not trust the game, thats the best advice i can give you

if it seems easy spect the worst thing imaginable and double it

[atomic escarp]

i think there's some issues with some doors and the normalmap textures on them not moving with the door, so the door will move but you can see the normalmap just not changing it's position, so you kinda see all the grime and detail on the door almost slide off while the door opens

its fonky

okay no it's not the normalmap, but just some like decal on the door or something

[mellow creek]

damn c2 overload is a total different difficulty w scout's cap spawn and w/o lol

[mortal granite]

i think w/o is doable and a little bit too hard?? ish

the devs did give us a lot of mines and c foam grenade

[nocturne flax]

Its fine as it is

[mortal granite]

i don't see why would people "cheese" that

[atomic escarp]

Yes, just keep running in circle and you will win everything in this game.

[mortal granite]

are you really win tho?

[hearty bridge]

damn, those b2 levels are somethin else, I hate r4b2 and now I hate r5b2, those damn random waves destroying doors >.>
also i need to say, that to C1 i rly doesnt have bigger reason to dislike cacoons, but when i saw, that u need to leave one person to make escaping so trivial, i rly start to dislike them 😦

[fierce laurel]

welcome to the fuck B2 club

somehow hit max infection running around in the main room

[tough totem]

I need mental help

I've been working on it for days, literally have over 24 hours spent in game on that level

If not more

Almost on 30 :(

[fierce laurel]

R5B2?

[tough totem]

Yes

Absolute hell

I have the strat down for almost everything though

[fierce laurel]

I havent beaten it yet

haven't had time

[turbid egret]

fog stuff?

[lapis solstice]

fog diveing for GLP

its hell

[dark bane]

yo does b1 overload cause fog to become infectious

just wondering

[sick hornet]

yes

[mellow creek]

does 100% infection resist means the cap at 15% becomes 30% ?

[sick hornet]

should tell you more if you hover over it

[mellow creek]

only says infection resistance increase by 100%

no idea if it means min cap at 30% or 100% lol

[sick hornet]

really? it should give more details if you hover over the infection resistance thing

[mellow creek]

'subject will be more resistance against infection'

thats what it wrote after hovering

[mellow creek]

yeah its doable but they are on both ends of the difficulty curve

[dark bane]

@mellow creek this is only what I heard from someone else but apparently it just means you take infection slower
i.e. it takes twice as long to get the same infection w/ 100% infection resist

[mellow creek]

ah.................. i see

[atomic escarp]

Damn, is B3 level a joke ? It looks so hard 😂

[tough totem]

B2 PE?

that bit is also a joke

[urban mirage]

Trying A2 for the first time without bringing a biotracker 😬

is there any way to fight effectively while you are in tight-ish corridors and can't see shite?

[atomic escarp]

Walk slow and do quick flashes to bright the ennemies

[nocturne flax]

Know map layout? Profit

[jolly imp]

if you are on alarms just keep moveing in circles

and hammer what ever comes in your sight

pay attention to sound you can hear their footsteps and get and idea of where they are

ofc if you know the layout and general direction before hand you can get them into a chokepoint and shoot

[nocturne flax]

Or you could so a big brain and leanr the main part by playing high, then high and extreme, then overload

Easy clap

No surprises left( and all map known 🤔)

I cant edit shit on phone

Im just gonna leave it like that

Lmao

[urban mirage]

yh, I ain't doing overload before knowing the level XD

[nocturne flax]

Full team or solo?

If its solo then........ good luck

[urban mirage]

Just need to get a better sense of the layout so I don't have to 180 back while hammering

full, I just got a few hours in the game

[nocturne flax]

High only allows you to see the map better

Hes a few hours into the game not a circle kiter.....yet

He doesnt even know whats that

You might wanna delete that but whatever

[urban mirage]

I know Wes

and played a bit of R4 with Orange, so I know the possibilities of how to play, I just cant put it into practice myself

[abstract ruin]

wheres the bulkhead key for A2's overload? and what kind of nonsense does it spawn?

[atomic escarp]

No bh key needed

[abstract ruin]

got ya

[atomic escarp]

Just pick up the cargo and it automatically unlocks

[abstract ruin]

ah

appreciate it

[atomic escarp]

Have good CC guns for it though : ^ )

And really bursty specials

[abstract ruin]

recommendations?

[atomic escarp]

Pump, CS, HEL rifle

MG, MP SMG

[abstract ruin]

noted

[hallow prairie]

Real talk, is anyone having fun on C1? We are going for Ex and it's not hard, it's just plain ANNOYING. Either we all play the game and it takes ages cause the room respawns the moment you move 2 rooms away (who ever thought of that should be fired) OR you designate a player and say "Sorry mate, you are not allowed to play the game that you bought with your own money" and make him stand in there so they don't respawn. Like wtf?!

That mechanic sounded nice on paper but holy fuck does it suck in practice!!

[atomic escarp]

Escalating respawns when?

[obtuse surge]

the fact that you can block it is what really sucks

the respawn isn't really that bad

just look at it differently, instead of moving forward and clearing a new zone, you backtrack but have to clear that zone again

it's not much different

some valid points to make are the shitty rng on spawns

why the fuck do i get 2 hybrids on one run and 12 on the other

[prisma zodiac]

yeah pretty much that

But i (and i think many would agree) think that it still needs some work

They could even tweak the respawn blocking by making it more interesting (either not allowing close proximity loud rooms or making the „afk“ person need to quietly stop the sacks from spawning enemys or some sh*t

But its sad that the only way to interact is „stand in or in the room next to it“

[rancid basalt]

I think the respawn mechanic is overall fine but I think a nice quality of life change would be if the enemies respawned sequentially rather than all at once

[errant vigil]

I feel like they just need a rundown to test out the new stuff and make it better for the next

Layered seems to be a lot more enjoyable this rundown so far

[rancid basalt]

hard agree

booster system is going to be nice later, maybe

they should make them more lore friendly

[left yacht]

is there a new enemy in the new rundown? Do we know yet?

[rancid basalt]

yes

[left yacht]

Like enemy enemy, or variant

?

[errant vigil]

variant sadly

[rancid basalt]

mmm, variant, but a spicy one

[left yacht]

ah ok.

[rancid basalt]

||hard scout||

[left yacht]

Thats kinda cool i guess, I really want the worm from the trailer!

[rancid basalt]

same, I'm hoping for obstacles that feel entirely new soon

[errant vigil]

they still haven't fixed the weird way they work with others for their enemy group

[left yacht]

More moving creatures

[rancid basalt]

as in not one of the three main sleeper archetyoes

[left yacht]

yeah, are they broken in their group. Like unfairly?

The behave differently than other scouts?

[rancid basalt]

I never let one live idk

[errant vigil]

No

it's actually easier because of the weird way they work together

[rancid basalt]

you need more than one guy to kill them with melee

or a syringe i guess

[left yacht]

oh I see, sounds REAL fun

[rancid basalt]

that would make for a spicy overload level

it's actually not too bad but if you screw up you're getting punched

[errant vigil]

C2 overload is a great overload

to bad most people try to cheese it right away

[rancid basalt]

now I want a smashing scouts with syringes overload level

[left yacht]

Are ||tanks ||from the last rundown re appearing in this one?

[rancid basalt]

ye

[errant vigil]

yes

[left yacht]

thats cool, I like them

[rancid basalt]

pretty often too if you're doing layered

there's some really creative layered this time

[left yacht]

I really like the design and vibe of the monsters in this game, I just really would love to see more

[rancid basalt]

I'm a personal fan of b3 even though it isn't PE

[left yacht]

I heard the B levels are really tough

[rancid basalt]

I want strikers with pustule/cyst/spitter/whatever you call the goddamn wallbags heads

[left yacht]

lol

They would need to add a flamethrower, to kill them with fire real quick

[kind hinge]

if mothers make the babies then what are cocoons?

[errant vigil]

babies are different from striker i feel

Mother makes them herself

cocoons are people transforming or eggs from regular sleepers hatching

idk tho, someone with more lore knowledge would be better to ask

[kind hinge]

they are obviously biological hydrostasis units

obviously as in I just decided it to be true

[dark bane]

most fun level this rundown?

[errant vigil]

B3

[dark bane]

(so far imo i'd say probably B3 despite the things ive heard of it)

[errant vigil]

It's difficult and requires solid teamwork

unless you spawn block

[grand pollen]

can the scout charger be killed with one hammer hit?

[rancid basalt]

No

[grand pollen]

so if we dont get cfoam we r screwed right?

[errant vigil]

No

[kind hinge]

No

[rancid basalt]

Just hit it with two people, mine, or shoot it in the back with sniper/hel rifle

Shotgun probably works too

I think it takes 2 mines btw

[errant vigil]

yea

[valid light]

me and my squad completed b1 pe just for 3 of them to got stuck in a corner jumping off a ledge coming back from the extreme

be careful out there boys

[granite token]

||how do you properly defeat the b1 overload reactor wave?||

||4 sniper sentries or 2 snipersentries + 2 autosentries?||

[obtuse surge]

sit in the hallway instead of bridge

and bring hel rifles

[atomic escarp]

i've watched a video where they did 3 DMR, 1 assault rifle - 2 machine guns, 2 revolvers - 2 sniper sentries, 1 auto and 1 bio

[granite token]

i see

[mortal granite]

you can just use the hallway like wesley said, and bring Hel weapons

they're gonna run in a straight line so you can line them up with Hel weapon

3 sniper sentries are enough

1 bio for the rest of the level

[obtuse surge]

if you plan on doing extreme too, a mine deployer will make extreme so much easier that's it's totally worth not bringing an extra sentry

[granite token]

what is the hallway? where is that located?

[obtuse surge]

tool usage is also just fine to have the sentries shoot every wave if you're using 2

[granite token]

understand

[obtuse surge]

they spawn in the first room of the zone before the bridge

they'll go through the large door

and from there, you have a long hallway going down

you sit all the way at the end of it

you open that one small door

like

you'll be in the next room

[granite token]

ohh i see then thanks

what is the most hardest b level in your opinion (counting all sectors)?

[queen nymph]

B3 lol

[granite token]

😄

is there a new enemy in b3?

[queen nymph]

B1 is easy, B2 doesn’t exist when you get done. B3 is not hard, it might throw you off the first time you attempted it

[mortal granite]

wdym B2 doesn't exist

it's there

next to B1 and B3

[queen nymph]

Nuh it’s hidden in the fog. That doesn’t count

[mortal granite]

honestly, i have almost 100% infection resist so it's not my problem anymore

[granite token]

@mortal granite How many sniper sentries you have placed on the back of the hallway door?

[atomic herald]

Do boost apply to the entire team?

[granite token]

no, only to you

[atomic herald]

mk ty

[granite token]

np

[queen nymph]

B1 loool

[mortal granite]

1 sentry for first 2 waves, slowly up to 3 sentry at that last wave

[tight cliff]

Noh. We start with 2 sentries and put the 3rd down on code 4/5

We run 3 sniper sentries and 1 biotracker. Bio for extreme. You finish overload with an overwhelming amount of ammo packs extreme becomes cakewalk

[blazing thicket]

is there an extract alarm in c1 besides the constant alarms for the terminals?

||can you give me a spoiler?||

||so no? it doesnt look like there is||

||ok we were thinking of just leaving someone at extract during extreme to just complete the extract instead of running through the respawn rooms, you think that will work?||

||challenge would to actually beat extreme but i think if we have enough cfoam we can do it||

maybe but it would only be 1/4 and the other 3/4 of enemies would come to the people in extreme i think

i think the guy at extract will be able to handle 1/4

maybe not

we will test it now

[mellow creek]

or just circle kite everything on the bridge

[woeful lintel]

I mean this is a spoiler chat so why not spoil things right ? 😅

[atomic escarp]

||you're supposed to have these around||

[forest horizon]

Does C1 just seem tedious to anyone else?

Very boring objective but tons of enemies, scouts and the respawn mechanic combined just make it feel like its there just to waste your time

[oblique peak]

if you wanna just not deal with the respawns just keep on person at the bridge

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest horizon]

Feels like an exploit ngl

[oblique peak]

true

but cocoons are just not fun in general to deal with

[forest horizon]

Either way I really don't like C1, the fact that its the only other level that uses the new tiles is fucking sad

[oblique peak]

i like the level but the respawn mechanic just makes it tedious

[forest horizon]

And yeah the respawn mechanic feels dumb in practice, even though I still like the mechanic

[oblique peak]

expecially if you get a bunch of hydrids in the first room

[dreamy bramble]

c1 is pretty fun imo

ext is such a mess i love it

[forest horizon]

Extreme just seems a mess to me design wise

"Yes, lets just add random shadow enemies and a mother lmao"

[dreamy bramble]

it's a disaster but extract is so cursed that i couldn't stop laughing

[forest horizon]

But the objective is literally same as main

garbage tier level

[dreamy bramble]

we extracted with like 12 hybrids tailing us, a mother and an army of shadow giants

[forest horizon]

lol

[atomic escarp]

guessing no videos for higher levels yet ?

[forest horizon]

lulfireblade has some

[dreamy bramble]

alpha is uploading our runs but we're on c2pe rn

[atomic escarp]

ah ok wanted to look at d1 right away lul

[forest horizon]

I didn't think the devs could make a C tier mission worse than R4C1 but somehow they did

[oblique peak]

you mean worse as bad or hard?

[forest horizon]

Just bad

The main in R4C1 is okayish but the extreme is godawful

[dreamy bramble]

design wise it's pretty shit

the error waves can just alert the respawn rooms, the mother or break the doors, any of which makes it significantly harder

[atomic escarp]

yes was just extreme

[queen nymph]

Think about it that way, C1 as a level is nothing without the respawn.

[atomic escarp]

||D1 looks fun so far class 6 team scan first door||

[oblique peak]

D1 extreme is unpog

[queen nymph]

And with terminal booster, C1 is honestly stupidly easy

[oblique peak]

althought just high my be my favorite this rundown

[queen nymph]

But I refuse to play that level with pubs and without terminal booster lol

[forest horizon]

Yeah with pubs its unbelievably frustrating

Even more so than with pubs for other levels

[queen nymph]

The only thing I like about C1 was the first, the second scans and the escape part

[atomic escarp]

all infectious fog levels?

[dreamy bramble]

only fun part of c1 is extract and the s1s

but i really enjoyed those bits

[queen nymph]

I sat in front of the terminal for the whole mission

[dreamy bramble]

;)

[queen nymph]

I got bored half way

[forest horizon]

Tbh I think I like B2 PE more than C1 extreme

[dreamy bramble]

ok i wouldn't go that far

[atomic escarp]

I've been more and more surprised lately with how much health I have when I expect to be at 20

[forest horizon]

Because at least in B2 you don't have ninja mothers

[dreamy bramble]

tbh resource boosters shouldn't exist

[forest horizon]

But yeah, C1 is more boring than anything else, B2 is just generally annoying

[dreamy bramble]

they make resource management irrelevant

[atomic escarp]

i think they should but too an extent

[mystic adder]

its too late to take away my 50% glow stick powers

[dreamy bramble]

+70% extra resources is nuts

[atomic escarp]

maybe you gain it in the level but lose it when run is over

[dreamy bramble]

and only one person needs to bring it

[atomic escarp]

yes was in run yesterday guy was at 14% healed to 63%

[forest horizon]

And then you realize the levels tend to already have too much resources to begin with

[dreamy bramble]

exactly lol

[mystic adder]

The regen cap boosters go upto 99%

[queen nymph]

Main damage with DMR

[dreamy bramble]

i think the damage/scan/regen boosters are fine overall, but the resource boosters are way overtuned and terminal boosters shouldn't work on uplinks

[queen nymph]

Reactor mission immediately becomes an A level mission lol

[dreamy bramble]

we hid behind the railing so it wouldn't spawn babies lmao

[atomic escarp]

mothers dont do damage u good

[forest horizon]

Ah yes, the mothers fatal weakness

a foot high railing

[oblique peak]

i feel like they should be much weaker but permanent but i think the reason why they are like this right is because its a test fase to see how people react to them

[forest horizon]

They probably didn't test the boosters at all

Definitely feels like it at least

[mellow creek]

only part of c1 i like is the part where i swim in the fog river

[mild sonnet]

"Imagine being able to do R5B1 duo??" this post was made by giant charger every 30 second gang

[queen nymph]

B1 high or B1 PE?

[zenith kraken]

that was cancer

[mild sonnet]

honestly both

[zenith kraken]

yup

[queen nymph]

both are pretty easy for old players

[zenith kraken]

._.

you guys just won't be satisfied with anything

[queen nymph]

It’s kind of unexpected and cursed the first we saw it but after that it was just “hi old friends”

[mellow creek]

but tbh this rundown feels very lacking w/o new sleepers variant aside from 'reskined' sleepers

lol

[zenith kraken]

it does feel kinda empty

[mellow creek]

5 months of waiting for .... a respawn mechanic+ booster and an environment that is only on 2 of the stages.........

[queen nymph]

I mean, that’s fine with me cuz I don’t wanna see a new enemy with the respawn mechanic

[toxic dagger]

not even a well fleshed-out respawn mechanic

one that’s literally probably 20 lines of code

[errant vigil]

Games back to it's roots a little bit now with what the respawn mechanic wants you to do

[zenith kraken]

lets hope the next one does better

[errant vigil]

Stealth

[atomic escarp]

so.. whats the new monster?

[toxic dagger]

charger scout

[mellow creek]

i mean.... how do u stealth w an error alarm

[zenith kraken]

charger scout

[mellow creek]

it kinda defeats the purpose anyway

[toxic dagger]

they just need to add depth to it

[errant vigil]

There's far a few error this rundown

[zenith kraken]

can you melee charger scouts?

[toxic dagger]

5 months for a basic ass respawn with no animations or counters

[queen nymph]

Yes

[errant vigil]

and most are extraction alarms

[toxic dagger]

yes

2 charged to the back i think

[errant vigil]

which you're supposed to run to extract and live

[mellow creek]

+1 yeah was hoping for some dope animation

turns out to be a backdrop w some sounds

[toxic dagger]

turns out to be an aesthetic change with enemies that magically reappear

like i said probably 20 lines of code + adding in the cocoon design, if that

[mellow creek]

we need a meme for this

[zenith kraken]

we do

[toxic dagger]

make one

[zenith kraken]

i don't know how

[toxic dagger]

me neither

[mellow creek]

same

[toxic dagger]

i’m not enough of an internet man to make memes

[zenith kraken]

we need someone to do it

same

[toxic dagger]

idk who can

@atomic escarp

[forest horizon]

the legend himself

[mellow creek]

and we have like..... how many reactor quest this rd? 3

nothing new this rd too

in terms of objective

[errant vigil]

I mean b3 extreme and c2 overload are new

[mellow creek]

oh yeah

totally forgot about that

[toxic dagger]

i just feel like they could have added more depth to the new shit they introduced with all the time they had, namely respawning

[onyx forum]

in b1 overload, what should i expect?

[toxic dagger]

sleepers

[forest horizon]

apparently they spent a lot of that time hiring new people and training them

its shows tbh

[toxic dagger]

i mean great but have someone dedicated to that and the others focusing on the game

[zenith kraken]

in what way?

haven't tried those

[forest horizon]

Having alarms connected to blood doors

[toxic dagger]

that’s why most companies have recruitment branches so time doesn’t have to be taken away from the main products— i know it’s a small team, but even so

[queen nymph]

New objective I guess

[onyx forum]

in b1 overload, what should i expect?

[forest horizon]

instead of being separate mechanics

[zenith kraken]

not surprised

[zenith kraken]

new enemy variant

[queen nymph]

It’s an arena

[zenith kraken]

and cancer itself

[queen nymph]

Quite fun to play

[toxic dagger]

wdym like you open a blood door and it sets off an alarm? or you have to do an alarm before opening the blood door? because they had the latter in r4

[errant vigil]

C2's is great as long as you don't spawn cap the fight

[forest horizon]

No you set off an alarm through a terminal then you defend against waves coming from blood doors

[toxic dagger]

ahh okay

[forest horizon]

Isn't the intended way for c2 overload have you fight minimum 3 tanks?

[queen nymph]

Did you guys fight the overload? Have a question to ask

[errant vigil]

It's bugged tho

[queen nymph]

Yeah I know

[errant vigil]

So the last about 30 to 20 percent you kind of have to kite it

sadly

[queen nymph]

Oof okay

Did you guys kill the first tank or just keep kiting from then

[errant vigil]

no

[forest horizon]

Probably not, considering all the chargers

[errant vigil]

we killed all of them up until we had 3

at once

[queen nymph]

Ohhh okay lmao

[rich nova]

for B2 PE, you have to do overload before extreme right?

[queen nymph]

Ye

[rich nova]

since ex causes an alarm

ok

[queen nymph]

Wait

No

Extreme

Then overload

[forest horizon]

yep

[rich nova]

Extreme has a constant alarm running on it though

[queen nymph]

Yeah

[rich nova]

once you beat it

[errant vigil]

3 tanks is a good balance

I think 4 would be fine if it didn't bug out all the time

[toxic dagger]

that’s probably the point

[queen nymph]

Cool cool

[rich nova]

B2, where is the second cell?

[mortal granite]

inside the terminal

[rich nova]

what?

the terminal is listing oonly 1 cell, but theres 2 gens

do i oonly need to power 1 gen

[robust marsh]

is the gens connected to a door?

[mortal granite]

the cell can spawn in other zone as well

[robust marsh]

that as well

[rich nova]

smh nevermind

the terminal lists all zones, reg high and ext

but terminal is only showing 1 cell

[toxic dagger]

just find the other cell

[robust marsh]

or find where the GLPs are at

and than go find that zone :/

[rich nova]

cant, i need 2 cells

[robust marsh]

how so?

as i know it needs to be one room other than the free zones

not both cell room

[rich nova]

glp spawns unlucky then? idk

sitting at 8/9 cant find the other cell

[robust marsh]

check the glps again

you may have missed one

[toxic dagger]

maybe should’ve checked glps before and gone into the zone that had enough

[robust marsh]

agree

if you didn't do that

sorry we can't help

as you soft locked yourself

[rich nova]

i wish i did

there was only 1 behind each door

not one more than the oother idk whats happpening

[toxic dagger]

there’s definitely another cell somewhere or glp you missed

[robust marsh]

than there is a glp somewhere on the map

other than 2nd cell room

[toxic dagger]

list glp or list cell

[brisk dew]

can you find c-foam grenades on A1?

[robust marsh]

i seen 1

but its hard to get one

[acoustic breach]

C2 Overload is way too hard for a C-Level Overload zone, change my mind

People would be more ok with it if it was in D or maybe even E

Also the spawns need to be way less RNG between spawning tanks/giants/chargers/giant chargers

On some runs it's a breeze to complete it, on some runs it's impossible

[rocky marsh]

oh wtf is it rng spawns?

thats retarded hahaha

yeh i reckon the C2 overload is probably closer to a R4D1 or R4D2

but i like the upped difficulty

[mortal granite]

i don't think it was depended on RNG

haven't tried much

[atomic escarp]

Its great

[turbid cliff]

Rng aside
Wouldn't the difficulty spike in optional objectives simply make sense? If only it were not tied to progression

[dreamy bramble]

c2 overload in it's current state is pretty comparable in difficulty to the opening of r4e1, which is a bit overkill

it's fun but overtuned

[tight cliff]

R4E1 opening is not hard per se

[dreamy bramble]

it was the first few times

[tight cliff]

i mena, we've only attempted R5C2 Overload twice, so more data required I guess

[acoustic breach]

R4e1 was much easier imo