gtfo-spoiler-chat

[sick hornet]

been at school, may be different for C/D

[valid light]

overload door isnt opening, its telling us to rerun the power command and puts another scan, then when we stand in the scan nothing happens

for extreme

[sick hornet]

huh

[gloomy pulsar]

BRO... i stayed in one spot, and just looked forward on the "next" room... my mate goes round, and they didnt spawn in front of me, instead the backside of the room what i watched 😄 tell me wtf is this ?!

[sick hornet]

once you pick up the cargo for high overload unlocks

idk about the extreme thing

[warm coral]

I don't know what to make out of this Rundown, 500 hours in and now I just don't have the willpower to kill them again...

or 3 to 6 times again

[sick hornet]

almost 1200 hours in, i pretty much just ignore them

its dumb, but not the worst imo

[gloomy pulsar]

i dont want to ignore it... its just a stupid implement

[sick hornet]

yes

it seems to be a bit better back in digsite/lab

I think A2 did the spawning pretty good

A1 sucked though

[warm coral]

I'm so glad that you could download those maps again

[errant saffron]

Yes.

I've only had time enough to do A1, and I didn't care for it there. I want to see the other maps before I come to a final thought on the respawning.

I imagine it's very situational on how well it works.

[sick hornet]

A2 is more linear, the respawning only really comes into play once you finish the objective and are on the way back

[warm coral]

They should spawn only one more time then that's it

[errant saffron]

Like if some of these levels were like the levels in R4 in terms of back tracking, it will get old quick

[sick hornet]

yea

from what ive played, which isnt much, (thanks school) its only really floodways that is super bad with the respawning

[errant saffron]

Plus in terms of resources, and how an awaken room will eat those finite resources it seems like it could become problematic.

[warm coral]

btw is there a new monster, that's actually a new one with new look and everything?

[errant saffron]

It would be nice that every time a room respawns a 1 pack of a resource spawns with them

[sick hornet]

yea

thats how respawning works

[sick hornet]

yes

charger scout on B1, and i think snatchers on D1(?) edit: apparently snatchers still dont exist :(

[errant saffron]

I like the idea of it, just wish it was done in a different manner

It really depends though, like do we get respawning rooms and no/not as many constant alarms?

[warm coral]

What does snatcher do?

[sick hornet]

havent seen any errors yet

A1/A2/B3

[errant saffron]

Ok, see i like that. I don't like the idea of a constant alarm on most levels.

[sick hornet]

uh

b1 and b3 have errors naturally

idk about b2, C, or D

[peak niche]

there is

[frail elbow]

i think scouts are way worser with the new rebirth thing lol

[errant saffron]

To be clear, i don't mind an error every once in a while. It just seemed that it was used too much in R4. I'd perfer the respawning room over the liberal use of an error alarm

[frail elbow]

and do door alarms pull rebirthed rooms as well?

[pliant shard]

I think the error alarms are used nicely in this rundown

[frail elbow]

cuz we were trying A1 extreme and it was relentless lmao

[errant saffron]

It seems to me that the respawning is based on how many rooms away you are from the room in question

[pure spire]

still no flamethrower i assume?

[errant saffron]

I wish it was time based instead

[pliant shard]

It is time based

[errant saffron]

hmmm, it really didn't seem that way to me

[normal rampart]

If you keep one person in the respawn room or nearby it'll be fine. Not always viable, but fine.

[errant saffron]

plus, a majority of the mechs in this game has been based on distance instead of time.

[frail elbow]

^

[normal rampart]

For A1 it isn't so bad though. You only have to go back through a few once, on high.

[frail elbow]

but they did do time base for E1 last rundown

[errant saffron]

Yeah, but then you got 1 person who is just hanging out in a room trying to prevent respawns

that doesnt seem fun

[normal rampart]

It's not

But luckily we didn't do it often

It's usually not so bad

And usually levels don't do it NEARLY as much as A1

It's typically set rooms

C1 does it best for sure

[frail elbow]

A1 extreme was a different beast entirely

[sick hornet]

A1 ext was actually pretty good

[frail elbow]

and A2 with mommy milkers in the middle of an alarm

[normal rampart]

Yeah, but that level was an intro to the cocoons so it's not too bad as an exception

[errant saffron]

My issue with that approach (even though it may work) is because it forces people to play in way that is dictated by the game. Normally, a well implemented system in a good allows the player to play the way they want, and achieve the same ends.

[normal rampart]

I don't think it's too disrupting of however you want to play

But perhaps makes you use a bit more stealth

[errant saffron]

Which I like tbh

[sick hornet]

i woke up the same room with ~20 enemies 4 times

stealth is optional

[errant saffron]

true, but I personally think stealth play is more fun

[normal rampart]

Technically, sometimes, yes haha. But this is still a stealth game

If you like stealth, then I don't think this will be too much of a problem

The only time I remember the cocoons being very random is in A1, and it's not too bad of a level

[errant saffron]

my point is, that to prevent respawning one person MUST be in the room. That undeniably disrupts the way the game is played (for that one person). Just kind of sucks, feels like you have to pick your choice of a sacrificial lamb to just hang out in a dead room.

[normal rampart]

Yeah but a lot of the time they use team scans to make sure that doesn't happen.

[errant saffron]

All in all, I can deal with it. I dont think its terrible and I like the positives of it more than the negatives.

[normal rampart]

So at least you can't abuse it too much

[errant saffron]

yeah. It seems the team based scans are really used to ensure all the players are in one spot so the distance based mechs can work fully

[normal rampart]

That, too. And of course to make sure there's some level of teamwork in there

[errant saffron]

truth

[normal rampart]

Has anyone seen C1 yet? The cocoons feel great in that one

[fierce laurel]

does anyone have pictures of the new enemy?

[normal rampart]

I think the first high they appear on is D1

But I believe one of the C tier extremes has one too

[languid minnow]

any tips for the b1 big charger error alarm?

[normal rampart]

I set up mines on whatever door they start breaking, as well as two mines in the start to kill one of em

Other than that, find the HSU asap

[errant saffron]

Respawning rooms does prevent solo-ability of the maps as well. You can't kite alarms like you used to. Kiting has to be done in 1 to at most 2 rooms now.

[normal rampart]

Biotracker could be useful to see where they come from

A2 Solo will be fine for the most part at least

But A1 solo will be considerably more difficult thanks to the final alarm

[languid minnow]

gotcha so have 3 ppls defend while one speed runs the hsu, first time running that and i was so confused

[broken zinc]

Send 2 ppl in, kill the scout and start searching, other 2 kill the wave, then rush in and everyone try to find the hsu

[lavish galleon]

anyone wanna be a g and send me screenies of any new enemies?

[feral token]

use the wiki 45head

[lavish galleon]

OH DAMN I FORGOT

thanks soy lmfao

[feral token]

[humble mountain]

My squad and me are no fans of the new booster system.
I don't want to overdramatize it, but imo it's an unecessary feature.
The game was fine without any sort of system which made "grinding" or "farming" stuff give you an advantage.

[calm vessel]

you can always play the game

ya nerd

you wana actually join us sev

[lavish galleon]

when?

[calm vessel]

now?

[feral token]

#how-to-matchmake

[lavish galleon]

feelsbad

[calm vessel]

dont listen to him

[lavish galleon]

not in the mood to play rn ;-;

[calm vessel]

hes in a lobby with me

awe

look what you did soy

[feral token]

thats ok

shut up

<L(I

[calm vessel]

[feral token]

that was meant to be angry face but oh well

[boreal tendon]

does 1 hammer to the back really oneshot the new enemy?

[jolly raven]

but wiki does have new enemies now tho?

[feral token]

someone made the page

[lavish galleon]

yes and yes

[feral token]

no clue if anything is on it

no image cringe

[lavish galleon]

do u have one soy

im big curious

[feral token]

probably not

wouldnt be able to put it on the wiki anyway

[modern fern]

anyone know what the new enemies are?

[lavish galleon]

cries

[calm vessel]

[lavish galleon]

what vc yall in

[calm vessel]

its secret

only special people are allowed

with an iq in the negatives

[lavish galleon]

great so i got u convered

[sick hornet]

Vc 69

[lavish galleon]

con

wow

[feral token]

i thought you werent playing

[lavish galleon]

im not but i need my daily dose of nyuna bullying

depends what level actually

[calm vessel]

oh 😦

[feral token]

A2

[calm vessel]

nvm we wont move

[lavish galleon]

aye a2 is cursed sign me up

dibs carrying the suitcase

[calm vessel]

we in vc

[feral token]

shadow

anyway back to spoilers

[cursive idol]

who

in the right mind

put b3 extreme as a thing

what in the flying fuck

[sick hornet]

:)

b3 ext is good

[cursive idol]

im fine with the tank

but goddam

[jolly imp]

a2 overload is awsome the first time

[solemn wigeon]

Annoying the rest :^)

[jolly raven]

You probably find it on Steam, Reddit, or maybe YouTube if someone add image today or tomorrow.

[brazen lava]

Wait sleepers respawn now

[fair hill]

In rooms with ceiling cocoons yes.

[brazen lava]

Ehh, not a fan gonna be honest

No point in taking the time to clear if it can just be undone

[jolly raven]

@lavish galleon https://clips.twitch.tv/SneakyBoringKimchiHeyGuys-SxpNSjZIVEP_e2ES Charger Scout

[lavish galleon]

thank you!

[autumn mauve]

probably another one in the d tier

or C2 pe

cause if the striker scout is all there is

Imma just stop playing the game

it'sthe artefact

[atomic escarp]

bad joke xD

[burnt goblet]

Warden debriefing prisoners on the objective for A1 extreme:

Give me the plant

[flint sinew]

there's more new enemy types further in, ye

[autumn mauve]

nice thought so

by types we are talking like

actual new models?

not a variant right?

[flint sinew]

new model, it's called a ||snatcher||

[autumn mauve]

nope

I know there aren't any

but in that case Imma hope for r5/ext

[calm coral]

damn

r5 is fun so far

[devout river]

Yea I find it fun

Apparently the cocoon mechanic is kind of mixed though

Note, I based this assumption over the fact that I saw one argument on it earlier

[calm coral]

D1 communication intercept referring to R5E1 in R5/ext?

[devout river]

Maybe

[calm coral]

we didn’t have issues, but I can imagine new players will have a REALLY hard time with the A levels

they’re like marginally harder imo

like damn we really went from 0-1 scout to like 6 in high?

[devout river]

A1 High is the only level I have done up to this point but it was fun

6 scouts in an A tier high?

[calm coral]

something like that

I didn’t count

plus extreme has a lot more

whereas R4A1 extreme only had 1-2

there’s a lotta scouts around

[autumn mauve]

no I think the main issue is gonna be the double scout rooms in high

[calm coral]

I like it, especially cus if someone stays in the cocoon room they will not respawn

inspires new strats

we used it for A2 to keep the cocoon room clear for the way back

[calm coral]

true

they’re really making the beginners melee scouts

I mean I think it’s fine I like scouts and idk what it is but melee registration on scout heads seems to be more accurate

[autumn mauve]

death

[solemn wigeon]

Death

[dapper fjord]

Death

[orchid terrace]

by snu snu

[jolly raven]

Three blood doors at the same time? That way is to die faster

[crimson onyx]

LMAO

[errant olive]

warden lost his weed in the complex and we were sent to retrieve it

[twilit remnant]

Machine pistol is an ass A10 warthog

[serene swallow]

so

are those things hanging from the cieling what causes sleepers to respawn

and can you get rid of them

[devout river]

Yes and no

Cant get rid of them

[serene swallow]

fugma

[devout river]

But they "technically" respawn them

[serene swallow]

how so

[devout river]

Apparently there is no like animation or anything (they enemies just appear from what I hear) but they are just there for it to make some sense for enemies to respawn

[atomic escarp]

do you lose aggressive boosters if you lose?

[solemn wigeon]

If you equip a booster then no matter whether you win or lose, it will consume 1 use

[strange pine]

HELP!! r5 a2, how to do and find overload objective?

[icy geode]

pick up the main objective

Once you pick it up, the door powers up

and can be opened

[atomic escarp]

ok so i lost all three of my agressive boosters without ever equipping them

[sterile isle]

Tbh i don't get how picking up a cargo will power up a bulkhead door, lore-wise/realistically speaking

Unless someone can make some sense out of it

[atomic escarp]

if it has sensors to detect it being picked up then it can do anything

[sterile isle]

Okay yes but i'm asking what's the process like theoritically, not just "anything"

[pliant shard]

little trip mine attached to the back of it that when moved it triggers the alarm and unlocking of security protocols

[sterile isle]

Okay at least that's something, although it would make more sense if the complex locks down since you're removing the cargo from its original spot. That's just my opinion

[obtuse surge]

DN unlocks the door

[vestal mountain]

Did Michal make you say that Wesley

[brazen lava]

The respawning really makes this one a hard miss for me ngl. Cya next rundown on the off chance they ditch it

[toxic dagger]

seems like an easy way out, i agree. i haven’t played personally yet but the whole idea is very unappealing— especially when there is no work around such as destroying the eggs or activating a protocol on the terminal that could do use. players instead resort to leaving a teammate behind to stop the spawning of a room that was already cleared. and for what purpose? to slow players down? just add newer, more challenging enemies instead of a respawn mechanic imo

like if gtfo is still trying to pursue some aspects of realism, what person would leave behind massive egg sacks in the first place and not terminate them?

[rancid basalt]

it doesn't really seem like that big of a deal so far with one or two exceptions

(thru b levels)

[obtuse surge]

they're not in every expedition

[toxic dagger]

it’s more of precedent for me

if they’re going on this path it’s like eh

[obtuse surge]

it's probably not going to be ditched in future rundowns but it'll likely be less present

the current rundown title seems to suggest why it would be more frequent for this one

just like infection in R2

[brazen lava]

personally its enough to stop me from reccomending the game to be honest. i get its supposed to be difficult. and the 4 person non scaling difficulty was fine for that imo. this just seems excessive

[rancid basalt]

i just don't see how it changes that much

[toxic dagger]

i enjoy the difficulty but i just would have preferred something more diverse than the common aDd mOrE aNd rEsPaWnIng enemies tactic

[sterile isle]

The learning curve will be steep for new players, i can expect a lot to be very discouraged

[brazen lava]

like they werent already

[obtuse surge]

you can't just grab one of the things they did and see that as their one and only solution for difficulty

?

[hard vale]

the problem isn't even the difficulty

it's just a drag to have to go through there and clear it again

[rancid basalt]

probably easier to start now than rundown 2

[toxic dagger]

and also, the whole idea of realism plays into it: why is there no in-game (without denying spawns) method to getting rid of the eggs?

[brazen lava]

for me really its a disagreement on the direction the game is taking. and i have one clear way of sending that message. i have plenty of other games to play so i will. :P

[obtuse surge]

did you only play A1

or did you try some other expeditions too

[brazen lava]

played enough to know i dont like it, and dont want to deal with it

[solemn wigeon]

B3 is pretty fun ^^^

[toxic dagger]

i agree it’s more on the direction the game is going, especially with the whole idea of the added perk system. just feels completely unexpected comparatively to how rundowns have been

[obtuse surge]

why would you dodge the question

yes/no would have done

[toxic dagger]

wesley man you’re getting so worked up

[obtuse surge]

not really?

im trying to understand his point

[toxic dagger]

don’t dodge the question!

[obtuse surge]

yeh

when i ask a question and it doesn't get answered

that seems like a normal way to react

[toxic dagger]

l m a o

[obtuse surge]

im not angry

[toxic dagger]

cool

[brazen lava]

the rest of the expeditions dont matter. the mechanic is here, and like others have said its likely here to say. i dont want to deal with it. and i will have to, to progress. so i wont. that should suffice. i dont have to justify myself to you

[obtuse surge]

this is just kind of how conversation works

[sterile isle]

Maybe, but is this coming from an experienced player?

[brazen lava]

been here since release week. and i dont think it fits. all i need to say

[rancid basalt]

i'm less happy about the boosts tbh but I play with a 4 man squad so we can just not use them

[obtuse surge]

i think you reviewing the entire rundown using nothing but the first expedition isn't a very good call to make

[toxic dagger]

again it’s not about the difficulty just precedent. like adding in perks and respawning mechanics

[rancid basalt]

I've been playing since rd 1 so yeah

[crimson onyx]

||hi||

[rancid basalt]

there are a couple of points where I thought: man, this would shred a new guy

[sterile isle]

Exactly

[rancid basalt]

like in b1 lol

[sterile isle]

Game in its current state will discourage new players

Okay, most*

[rancid basalt]

though to be fair, my squad certainly got btfo before we could gtfo many times in the beginning

[sterile isle]

Understandable, i would assume you guys didn't give up that easily

[toxic dagger]

idk man the booster shit and the whole respawning rooms just doesn’t feel very gtfo to me

a personal thing

[sick hornet]

what does more damage per mag, double tap or dmr

[rancid basalt]

I guess I'm just saying that any game with a learning curve this high would tend to discourage newbies

[sick hornet]

stacking boosters to get +50% main weapon damage

[rancid basalt]

some push through and others give up

so can dmr one tap lil guys with boosts? that's stupid

[obtuse surge]

ah yes, 3 enemies respawned in my A1 room

[sterile isle]

Yeah you have a point there

[obtuse surge]

the game is too difficult now

[devout river]

true

[summer sapphire]

what's the average completion time on the A levels right now?

[proven gull]

XD

[desert tulip]

really dislike the respawn mechanic

[summer sapphire]

Trying to decide if I have enough time before I need to go to sleep

[sterile isle]

Less than hour i would say

An hour

[summer sapphire]

Thank god.

[rancid basalt]

i did 40 min for a1 as a 3 man

[obtuse surge]

but the respawn mechanic literally doesn't do shit until you get to C1

[rancid basalt]

probably faster with 4

no pe

[summer sapphire]

I couldn't stand the 2+ hours of R4

As much as I like the game, I work like 14 hour days

[rancid basalt]

it was ok when it was once in a while but r3 and r4 had some really lengthy levels

[brazen lava]

ah yes gotta play 70% of a rundown before you can decide if you dont like a mechanic or not. makes sense lmao

[sterile isle]

I spent 4 hours on R4E1 and still didnt complete it 👀

[desert tulip]

I guess i'll find out once i get there but still do not like them respawning a cleared room

[summer sapphire]

I literally don't have that much time to dedicate to it

[hard vale]

it doesn't make the game more difficult in my opinion, it just turns backtracking for supplies into even more of a chore than it already was

[rancid basalt]

layered difficulty is cool but sometimes it bloats the completion time a little

[obtuse surge]

if you have to exaggerate when providing an argument, it means your argument is pretty shit

no one said play 70%

but perhaps play more than A1

[toxic dagger]

i think they only respawn on a2 buddy

[obtuse surge]

well

[toxic dagger]

ur close though!

[obtuse surge]

you're wrong

xd

like literally

[brazen lava]

i shouldnt have to play to C1 before my opinion on a mechanic is taken seriously. i can play just A1 and decide if i like it or not. no need to get this defensive over a game you have no stake in man

[toxic dagger]

but also you’ve missed the entire point of what we’ve said

[devout river]

They respawn on A1

[obtuse surge]

i didn' t say play till C1

[toxic dagger]

it’s not about difficultly for the fifth time

[obtuse surge]

read better

[rancid basalt]

I think there are some places they respawn on a1 it just really doesn't matter since no alarms to speak of on the way out

[obtuse surge]

I said the mechanic matters a lot on C1

[sterile isle]

Take another look at A1 7 haha

[hard vale]

definitely on a1 as well, i bumped into it not knowing about it at all while playing solo and running back for a medkit

got mauled

[obtuse surge]

while being very meaningless in any previous level

[toxic dagger]

check yourself man, we said difficulty wasn’t the main issue here

[sterile isle]

They do respawn

[toxic dagger]

but apparently you’re not reading as well either

[rancid basalt]

people are disagreeing on the internet 😱

[toxic dagger]

ah well idk lmao i’m just being petty

[brazen lava]

"read better" the irony

[sterile isle]

All good man

[desert tulip]

exactly

[obtuse surge]

7 bruh

i was replying to echo

[toxic dagger]

“read better” proceeds to rant about difficulty when we said that it wasn’t about difficulty

he also said that

[obtuse surge]

you're actually omegabrain

[toxic dagger]

it’s not about difficulty but the direction of the game

i’m braindead my econ 470 final hit like a truck man

[hard vale]

not only would i have to clear the room again when backtracking, shouldn't they also respawn once more on the way forward depending on how far you have to backtrack?

[pine sapphire]

Dude, true story, game respawned like 20 sleepers right after we killed them and we were like 5 meters away behind the corner

On A1

[obtuse surge]

yeh

[toxic dagger]

i’ll own up— i was wrong then it is on a1 oops

my mistake

[obtuse surge]

because the game still sucks in it's distribution

and sometimes spawns 20+ in one room

[sterile isle]

Geetsome rest if you can lol

[obtuse surge]

which has been confirmed as unintended

that's the issue there

not the respawns

[toxic dagger]

that’s your opinion my guy

[obtuse surge]

how is that an opinion

when doc literally said that it's unintended

[atomic escarp]

what's been proven wesley?

[obtuse surge]

for expeditions like A1 to spawn 20+ in one singular room

[atomic escarp]

yeah unintended

[soft kraken]

Link it being unintened ma'am

[toxic dagger]

i’m not referring to actual technical mistakes

[shy vessel]

Yeah the game has a tendency to put the whole spawn group in one room

[pine sapphire]

I am not all against respawn mechanic but it definitely feels unfinished, spawning same amount of enemies in the same places as before is just stupid

[obtuse surge]

Correct, you're sticking to opinions because that's the only way you can't be judged in your mind

[shy vessel]

Makes a tiers difficulty for new players really random

[atomic escarp]

they should be equally spaced out but for some reason it doesn't sometimes

[obtuse surge]

And you just disregard any actual information you're given

[atomic escarp]

fyi wesley i dm'd you

[obtuse surge]

the respawns on A1 will be fucked if you get shitty distributions

[brazen lava]

im gonna stop because this is going nowhere. but you've litterally been disregarding what weve been saying this whole conversation

[obtuse surge]

it will barely matter if you get regular distributions

[fierce laurel]

A1 needs to be reworked

[pine sapphire]

It should be more like 'be always on your guard because enemies appear again in these rooms' and not 'if you look away your progress in this room vanishes'

[obtuse surge]

How have I been disregarding what you've been saying

I've been providing information that you were unaware off

So you could try to shift your vision and have a more informed opinion on the matter

[brazen lava]

head meet desk. im going to go play some games. have fun with gtfo

[fierce laurel]

yikes

[hard vale]

maybe limiting the respawning to after alarm doors only would make it more bearable

[shy vessel]

Enemy respawning can have diffrent groups, diffrent times between respawning and diffrent requirements for how many rooms / zones away you have to be for respawning to happen

[pine sapphire]

Yeah for a start it should respawn random number of enemies in a random positions. And nothing like 20 sleepers, just a few so you can't run around like madman

For such a controversial mechanic it shouldn't be a central mechanic for levels

Just a flavor

As a flavor, I like it

[devout river]

Well I doubt they made it with the intention of it being controversial

[pine sapphire]

When you change game like that after a year of created 'metas' you should expect something like that. Even when you add something brilliant

[obtuse surge]

if you're kiting on A tier

that's not the meta

[pine sapphire]

Nobody is angry just about A tier and you know it

It's a precedent

[obtuse surge]

i guess i don't know

i joined a couple randoms and they want to fucking kite every alarm above class 3 for some reason

so i guess you're right in some way

[sick hornet]

uh... why?

[obtuse surge]

but the people i play with don't really do that

so the respawn mechanic doesn't seem to make that much of a difference in most cases

we generally kite when shit already hit the fan

[weak jackal]

does anyone know where the unsealer is in the unsealer room

[sick hornet]

its any of them

[weak jackal]

??? not getting any prompt to put the case in

[sterile isle]

How's the burst rifle? For those who've tried it already

[jagged marten]

a bit underwhelming

[obtuse surge]

you can burst cancel the burst rifle

[vestal mountain]

Pro tip - Start pinging each of the machines. Whichever the ping will work on will be the one you need. You need to walk to it's back, not the front.

[jagged marten]

really requires the headshots

[obtuse surge]

and its meta for breaking locks because it takes one burst + one bullet to break the lock

they just want us to burst cancel something

[sterile isle]

Ohh i thought burst cancel was going to be removed when burst cannon went poof

[sick hornet]

i mean it still exists

they didnt patch it

[sterile isle]

N i c e

[sick hornet]

its just not really effective anymore

double tap cancel isnt super garbage

[sterile isle]

Cool, i guess i'll try DT cancel in a bit

[weak jackal]

thank you ravenna you saved my run

[frail zinc]

Double tap looks like a better DMR but still shit

[jagged marten]

none of the weapons this rundown really stand out to me, they all feel kind of samey

[frail zinc]

personally i think burst weapons as mains suck massively in general

the heavy smg is cool but the clip is really hard to get used to

[rocky crest]

My experience with the double tap has been that the first shot destroys the head (at least on normal strikers) then the second whizzes through the now empty space.

[jagged marten]

the DTR feels like a worse DMR

[sterile isle]

I dig the sound of Hel Gun though

[frail zinc]

there are some cases where you will actually successfully double tap something

[rocky crest]

How are folks feeling about the combat shotty after its slight damage increase?

More reliable for crowd clear?

[jagged marten]

its probably good for crowd control, but the inability to point in the general direction of an enemy and blow them away without ADS kills it for me

the regular shotgun and chokemod spoiled me

[frail zinc]

i'd prefer the normal shotgun if it shot a little faster

[obtuse surge]

shotguns still bugged

fix the bug and remove the damage increase

[frail zinc]

but yes the guns apart from HEL guns feel pretty meh

[obtuse surge]

and that would be a way bigger buff

[rocky crest]

What's the shotgun bug? I started midway through R4 and took a bit of a hiatus till now.

[obtuse surge]

on headshots the head hitbox is removed as soon as enough pellets damaged it

which means a bunch of pellets from the same shot will just miss

leading to enemies surviving point blank headshots

which makes no sense

[rocky crest]

Is it not just hitting a damage threshold to destroy the head then the rest of the pellets going into empty space or does it get rid of ones that would have hit the body too?

[frail zinc]

also the reason why DTR is sucking. 1st shot breaks head and the other leaves you like its your dad

[obtuse surge]

i mean it's not really a damage treshold

any gun that's a single shot will just overkill

while your shotgun wont

or technically will but only with the last pellet that actually still hits

[rocky crest]

But that's because the damage is split across the pellets no? It somewhat makes sense for pellets to not hit something that was destroyed by the previous pellets unless I'm misunderstanding.

[frail zinc]

so wesley thoughts on the respawning mechanic coupled with the still ever present mechanic of all enemies spawning up each other asses

[obtuse surge]

i mean your shotgun fires all pellets at the same time

if you want to make the case that a burst should stop once destroyed sure

but a shotgun should have all pellets from the same shot being able to hit the same hitbox

[rocky crest]

This is probably true. Would make them more consistent for sure.

[obtuse surge]

head hitbox was never removed prior to R4

and the combat shotgun played a lot better before that

even without any of the buffs it has gotten

[rocky crest]

Gotcha. I'll keep that in mind if I keep fiddling with it. Try to shift my aim lower a bit to try to catch the body as well for now.

[obtuse surge]

yeh

not sure on specifics but the body damage increase probably made it a bit easier to still get oneshots by aiming for chin

[placid wadi]

Today I learned if you semi-clear a room with SLeepers with Eggs the sleepers dont respawn

[sterile isle]

Can't wait to tell the bois

[desert tulip]

nioooce

[frail zinc]

Cant wait for it to be stealth fixed within the next 12 hours now that its know

[sterile isle]

[atomic escarp]

Full stealth map in R6 lasting 3 hours long ;)!

[frail zinc]

Multi team stealth missions that go for 15 hours straight

[atomic escarp]

Room full of 20 tanks that you need to sneak past

[frail zinc]

Respawning tanks*

[sterile isle]

Scouts*

[rancid basalt]

scout error alarm

[obtuse surge]

20 tank room with a class 10 stealth scan

[frail zinc]

i wouldn't even mind respawning scouts

[atomic escarp]

love it.

[rancid basalt]

tank scout when?

scout mother?

[obtuse surge]

but what does it mean for the lore that the scouts don't respawn

[atomic escarp]

[frail zinc]

Kerse go scream at people in general

[atomic escarp]

aye aye captain

[frail zinc]

[placid wadi]

Not if you leave at least 1 alive

Imagine Daddy and Mommy Sleepers respawning

[rancid basalt]

when a tank and a pmother are in the same room...

[rigid geyser]

new enemy? hmm dunno about that one

[crimson mural]

yo question

how tf do we activate overload for A2?

[desert python]

you have to pick up the box first

so the lockdown goes down

but watch out there's a big nasty surprise waiting behind these doors lol

[fair vigil]

So can I expect the HEL Rifle to do damage on-par with the sniper? I can already see the trade-off being Semi-Auto for Over-pen, not sure if there's more trade-off than that

[desert python]

well, can't say that's not true xd

[hearty escarp]

so trying to keep myself from getting spoiled too much, but if someone could confirm: The B1 error alarm in the high section, does that spawn big chargers? In a B1 high error alarm?

[desert python]

yup

just got destroyed by those

[abstract venture]

You people are already at the B tier?

[hearty escarp]

is this rundown suppsoed to be significantly harder than 4?

[desert python]

and the alarm doesn't stop

[hearty escarp]

even after picking up the HSU?

fuck

[desert python]

well enemies can respawn so probably

[desert python]

not sure about that, they killed my squad too quickly xD

[crimson mural]

yo question

[hearty escarp]

I enjoy duo'ing GTFO but I guess that just got significantly harder

[crimson mural]

is there an audio log in A2?

[desert python]

cuz you have to kill small blacks while going for HSU and in meantime, you're getting backdoored by big blacks from alarm

[hearty escarp]

yeah I found a terminal wich a bunch of corrupted audio logs

[warm sedge]

sus

[desert python]

I actually hate B1 the most so far lol

[hearty escarp]

are the other B levels more reasonable?

like for the high difficulty at least

[atomic escarp]

late as fuck response, but there's plenty of sensors in the small boxes we look at every day to browse the internet and post pictures on social media and keep in our pockets, stuff that can tell how fast it's moving, if it's moving at all, where it has moved to, locational tracking isn't like a new thing for stuff to have, and that's a big bulky box in at the very least the year 2053, most likely later than that. as for doors opening up from it being moved, that, combined with the fact that there's a huge constant alarm that starts when it's moved, and a bulkhead door opens up, it's most likely that the bulkhead door provides access for security officers to quickly move in on the cargo's location.

[atomic escarp]

there are four on one terminal, hidden among dozens and dozens of corrupted audio logs

[hearty escarp]

how do you find the correct audio logs?

do you have to read all of them?

sounds tedious

[atomic escarp]

the file sizes are a good hint of it

[hearty escarp]

ah ok i didn't look at that

[atomic escarp]

neither did i until i started looking at screenshots i took of the list of logs

[desert python]

anyone else laughing at the sight of those streched barrels on b1?

we found like 8 in that room before entering error alarm doors lol

[crimson mural]

yo how the FUCK do we work A2?????

[crimson mural]

dude there's like millions lmao

[frail zinc]

Pray to simon for good luck and blast

[atomic escarp]

look to the file sizes

[desert python]

you mean how to survive the mother? xD

well, not many figured that out yet probably

[crimson mural]

dude we didn't expect any of those

[desert python]

yeah, it's screwed up

[crimson mural]

I picked up the thing then we opened the bulkhead

that's fucked man

[atomic escarp]

the first time my team opened that door was like immediately having the hand of simon viklund jump through our screens to give us the middle finger lmfao

[desert python]

probably best to do a mix of c-foam, mines and auto turrets

[crimson mural]

lmao

[atomic escarp]

so

many

fucking

babies

[desert python]

dozens

my team figured out the best way may probably be to set a sniper turret on the bridge and just wipe first wave of babies

and not peek into mother's face

cuz as long as she doesn't see you, they don't spawn

[crimson mural]

yup

[atomic escarp]

it was like me as an 11 year old playing gmod and making a zombie survival thing

[crimson mural]

dud it's exactly like A3 but all dark

[desert python]

oh and the reason for the sniper sentry is to shoot mother's ass while not looking at her

[atomic escarp]

|| on either side of your message

so it'll be like | | spoiler text here| | without the space between them, will look like this ||spoiler||

[boreal shell]

a place where you can get stuck on b1, we were playing normally and not goofing off ||https://clips.twitch.tv/SquareJollyPheasantGOWSkull-sPZbZcLXy0TB7LhV||

[atomic escarp]

np

[desert python]

wait what, toxic fog? is it on extreme or what

[eternal dragon]

Did anyone do c2 overload yet? 🤣

[desert python]

who is crazy enough to get past b's

XD

I want to shake that person's hand

[eternal dragon]

🤝

[stable aurora]

Has anyone confirmed yet that snatchers are added in this rundown?

[atomic escarp]

A2's overload already had me fucked up

[stable aurora]

I heard people saying they existed in d1

[atomic escarp]

not snatchers, just seemed like it at first

[stable aurora]

Damn thats kinda weird

there was a snatcher tentacle in the trailer

[atomic escarp]

they're cocoons that sit on the ceiling, and essentially mark rooms where if you go to a different security zone, the sleepers that were there will be respawned when you come back to that security zone

[stable aurora]

Thought for sure they were finally gonna be added

[devout river]

So what are the new enemies

[tepid shoal]

Some spoilers on lore: ||Dauda was some sort of scientist or medic, performing experiments on people. Maybe a correlation to the sleepers? Hackett was an ex military man who slaughtered civilians without a second thought. He applied to be put to work for Santonion Industries so his memories would be wiped. Bishop was involved in some sort of black mail by the SSIC and rebel involvement during the civil war. Woods was also ex military and became a religious fanatic. He believes that he is already in hell and it is his god given duty to uphold banishing the devil to hell. He was sent down rather than face execution for his involvement in the civil war.||

[stable aurora]

Charger scout @devout river

[devout river]

Only one?

[stable aurora]

Unless theres something I dont know thats it

[tepid shoal]

idk havent seen any other ones than the charger scout

[devout river]

And its only a variant which kind of sucks

[stable aurora]

black boxes I guess

[desert python]

so what about the tentacle thingy

is it anywhere?

[stable aurora]

Ill link the timestamp of what I saw in the trailer

right here https://youtu.be/pPQeayN--d0?t=4

On the third cut

Theres a tentacle wingin about

[desert python]

yeah that's what I'm talking about

[stable aurora]

Yeah I dont think thats added yet

maybe in extended

[calm vessel]

that's the sleepers tongues

glad to be of assistance

[devout river]

Yeah those are sleepers tongues

[stable aurora]

Ah that makes sense

There was a tentacle in one of the release trailers I remember

[sterile isle]

ah okay

👍

[mellow creek]

b1 is actually manageble once u get ur placement and position done.. wait till u go b2/b3

[hearty escarp]

managable with two people?

[mellow creek]

b2 is quite rng reliant with pimples around u

[hearty escarp]

I could see four people this being completely reasonable

but with 2 people really not sure

[desert python]

hell no, pimples again

[mellow creek]

ah maybe for 2 people then well all 3 are hard

especially b3

[stable aurora]

B1 was a shitshow for me and 3 others

[mellow creek]

u will lack firepower literzlly

[stable aurora]

at least reactor was

So many hybrids

[mellow creek]

hahahahah go b3 extreme and see

u can imagine ludvig throwing a purple scan in ur face

[stable aurora]

b3 has the big ass s1 right

[mellow creek]

yea

[stable aurora]

yeah not tonight lol

[mellow creek]

imagine ||10 giant chargers +10 hybrids + daddy || gettign told to leave a club before club ends

u can feel how angry they are

[stable aurora]

I can imagine

very angy

Its crazy to me that theres so many giant chargers in b fuckin 1

What more can they throw at us

[mellow creek]

poison fogs

[stable aurora]

r5 e1

respawning tanks

[mellow creek]

invisible momma

[stable aurora]

giant shadow tank scout

[desert python]

[rocky marsh]

Yeh B1 was pretty fucking cooked

Imagine what the C levels are like

[hearty escarp]

imagine what D1 extreme is like

I don't even wanna know

[pliant shard]

probably pain

[hearty escarp]

probably an error alarm that spawns a tank every 60 seconds and a mother every 90 seconds

or something else that's equally as absurd

[true grove]

My friends and I went to do A2, we couldn't find the overload terminal. We used the bulkhead key to get through extreme, didn't find the overload terminal or a second bulkhead key. We also didn't find the key on any terminal scans. Did we do something wrong?

[ember musk]

Maybe this is the wrong chat, but I have a booster that says my bioscans are faster when I have a hacking tool equipped, does that mean the thing I use to hack open locks? Or some other tool?

[pliant shard]

Overload opens when you pick up cargo

[devout river]

Yes the thing to open hack locks

[pliant shard]

Doesn’t need a bulkhead key

[ember musk]

How do I equip that without a lock to hack? Just trying to figure out how this booster is useful

[devout river]

one of the numbers

I forgot which one but its one of them

[true grove]

I think it was 7

[ember musk]

Thanks everyone

[frail zinc]

@ember musk the scans just go faster if you have the hacking tool in your hands while in the scans

[true grove]

And awesome, thanks, do you know if the overload bulkhead door is in one of the optional security door zones?

We probably just missed the bulkhead door entirely because we skipped two of those optional zones

[frail zinc]

overload is on the right side of the room you go through with the bridge

[true grove]

Dang that was a big room, we probably ALL missed it lmao

[desert python]

When you run on the bridge you should be able to see it on your right

[frail zinc]

ngl i dont like how big all the new rooms are.

[true grove]

Thank you! We're definitely gonna have to run that one back

[desert python]

Add A2 fog and no lights after extreme and you're going mad

[frail zinc]

:^)

[desert python]

I would love these rooms but without that much fog

now I just get extremely lost without long range flashlight

[frail zinc]

at least its not as much fog as in r4

while you have errors.

while you're carrying something

[desert python]

Now after an entire night of playing I am dying like my character at B1, just pancaking on the floor lol

[desert python]

but the rooms weren't so big

[atomic escarp]

||is there a way to increase the heat percentage||

[desert python]

or at least not with so many labirynths

[hearty escarp]

my A1 reset to 100% after I beat it but A2 didn't reset to 100% after I beat it so not sure

[frail zinc]

best guess is to play other levels.

[desert python]

maybe it resets after some time or after you do other levels

so you won't be able to grind one "easy" level

[atomic escarp]

Alright thanks I just know that I scout levels before playing with friends so exploring decreases it

[frail zinc]

pretty important seeing how powerful the aggressive boosters are

[desert python]

kinda funny that you can play this game on so many ways, solo, full team, speed running, clearing everything and discovering the lore

[atomic escarp]

Yeah I like how open it is

[frail zinc]

i usually duo with my boy pluton

its pretty enjoyable that way

[desert python]

you have to want to discover the story, that's what I like, most people ignore it probably and just go by with levels with minimal knowledge about the game

[atomic escarp]

The difficulties also gives it so many more ways to play

I'm just sad the mine deployer has less mines

[desert python]

even such simple stuff as I found on one of the terminals at B1, some alerts logs from reactor overheating, lots of info on it

[desert python]

but packs a punch now

[atomic escarp]

Oh I didnt know they made it stronger

[frail zinc]

8 mines is back to r3 amount iirc

[desert python]

yeah, funny to watch 20 enemies go down from a single explosion lol

[frail zinc]

the rounding on tool refills sucks for mines tho

lul

[desert python]

I wonder when they'll add completely new tools

or new melee weapons

[frail zinc]

when they feel ready

[abstract venture]

Is there an error alarm on the cargo in A2?

[desert python]

yup

[abstract venture]

Ight

[desert python]

but very small waves of enemies

I suggest clearing out the big room before picking it up

also after you pick it up you have an option to do Overload bulkhead, would you like to know what's behind it? : P

[frail zinc]

PTSD and suffering.

[desert python]

worse

[frail zinc]

i mean i played the level so i know

[desert python]

I still can't get it how could they drop a mother at A levels lol

just brutal

make it sleeping at least

[regal oar]

in b3, for the key do you go straight into ||infection fog down the ladder|| or go somewhere else first..?

[frail zinc]

gotta make the newbs learn

[desert python]

yeah, make them know that everything is unfair and they stand no chance lol

but well, they were correct with making it an overload bulkhead XD

[frail zinc]

i mean to be honest most never players wont touch the optional difficulties

i know i didn't when i first played in r4

[desert python]

chickens, that's how you call them

[frail zinc]

its mostly returning players that try to PE levels first try

[desert python]

or noobs, more actual

how can you not try such a challenge in such an unfair game lol

[frail zinc]

not everyone wants to cry themselves to sleep

[desert python]

kinda XD

I'm going off feeling crushed by blacks on B1

I actually feel raped

and it's not cool, especially with their size

[frail zinc]

talking about sleep i have no idea when i fell asleep but its 4am

[desert python]

well, probably will wake up when it's night xD

played all night long and I'm starting to see sun already

[mellow creek]

go for the key

should have a turbine somewhere in the middle

[desert python]

alright, heading off to cry in the corner of the bed after getting raped on b1

oh, and after seeing those STRECHED BARRELS before popping error alarm

[prisma swan]

does anyone have pictures of the new enemies?

[devout river]

There is only really one new enemy iirc, but no

The cocoons are technically one but they don’t do anything

[prisma swan]

theres 2 new enemies

[devout river]

Yes

||the only new enemy that I know of is the charger scout ||

[drowsy lava]

otherwise people would pop them so they wont have to deal with them later

[devout river]

People were saying that the snatcher got added but that is false from what I hear

[turbid egret]

Bunny hopping is still a thing huh? They haven't removed it

[devout river]

||chargers scout is real||

[prisma swan]

ive heared theres a snatcher hidden in d1

[devout river]

There isn’t

[amber marten]

is it not in ghe game?

[devout river]

People said there was but the snatcher is probably not out

It would be on the wiki at least

[prisma swan]

have you explored all of d1 yet

[devout river]

No but like I said it would at least be on the wiki

And it isn’t

[mellow creek]

hope theres a rundown extension

8 stages seems a little small

for a 5month period

[devout river]

Everything seems small compared to R4 ext

R4 base was also 8 levels long and that had a similar length, although shorter development period

[mellow creek]

yea

was quite disappointed in the ballsacks tbh

thought it will spawn something instead of being a backdrop

[devout river]

All they do is signify that the enemies in the area around them will respawn

Honestly I think the enemy lineup this rundown is kind of weak in general

You got the cocoons which do nothing and a scout that has the chargers move set and has to be hit in the back

I mean the levels seem cool and there is some nice returning guns,there was a good amount of quality of life changes and the new environment is cool but yeah the enemy lineup is weak and the respawning system which seemed to be a major part of this rundown feels rushed and although I like the artifact system I feel like there is probably some overpowered perks

[blazing thicket]

||i just hammered the charger scout in the back and it didnt die so my question is can you hammer it in the back of the head or do you have to shoot it?|| B1 overload spoilers

[devout river]

You can hammer it I think

Probably just classic scout hit boxes

[blazing thicket]

oh so just the head?

[devout river]

I’m not sure

[blazing thicket]

ok

ill try it next time

[errant vigil]

you cannot

[devout river]

The wiki should say something you can look there

[errant vigil]

There is no head multi for chargers

so no head multi for charger scout

and they have more hp

[devout river]

You can hammer them right though

[errant vigil]

either shoot or work together to kill it

[devout river]

Oh that’s

Well so you are probably going to have to shoot it most times right

Hitting a scout at the same time seems like it would be not easy to do

[errant vigil]

it's pretty simple

[mellow creek]

shooting will be easier i reckon

[errant vigil]

like bigs

just call it out

it'll stagger and you can get another hit

[blazing thicket]

yeah but its gotta be with a team you can trust and with good coordination

[vapid moon]

is there an ||error alarm when you pickup the hisec cargo for a2?||

[blazing thicket]

yes

[vapid moon]

ight

[abstract venture]

Can the hel rifle one shot a scout?

[errant vigil]

to head yes

not sure about back

[abstract venture]

Back of the head or just the head?

[woeful lintel]

just head

[errant vigil]

head works

[west crow]

one shots to the head

[abstract venture]

Ight

[west crow]

hel rifle is tasty this rundown 😩

[errant vigil]

it was before

[west crow]

2 clips to kill one hybrid

😢

[abstract venture]

It takes 10 bullets to kill a hybrid?

[west crow]

with the r3 hel rifle

[orchid granite]

Are artifacts one use only?

[west crow]

ye

[devout river]

Yes

[orchid granite]

):

[errant vigil]

some are

others aren't

[orchid granite]

(:

[west crow]

all the ones I've found have been one use

[errant vigil]

what do you mean by artifacts the things you pick up

or the boosts you use

[drowsy lava]

Most boosts are one use

[amber marten]

i have a 2

[drowsy lava]

Well some have either multiple uses or simply got more of the same

[atomic escarp]

does anyone know what a red, down arrow for hacking means? reduced hacking time or faster hacking?

[vapid moon]

yeah, it can surprisingly. i missed the head, hit the back, and it flopped over lmao

[errant vigil]

I killed an alert one like that but thought he was predamaged so I'm not 100%

[vapid moon]

mine was unalerted

[errant vigil]

Could test it more but I like having coordination with team for taking it down

[vapid moon]

tru

[errant vigil]

Charger scout do be walkin funny tho

[dusky grove]

Can someone help me? There are weird lookin nutsacks on the ceiling and they trigger mines. Are they mobs?

Mob?

[modest aspen]

they allow enemies to respawn a room if you go far away from it

[dusky grove]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[languid escarp]

They activate mines

[dusky grove]

is there a way i can yeet them outta existince?

[robust marsh]

nope

[dusky grove]

time to hide in a corner and die

[robust marsh]

enemys respawning will not be alerted

you just have to clear the room again

[dusky grove]

I agree

[shell reef]

Be careful in B2 you can get stuck in geometry by climbing on the pipes in the || repurposed R4 B1 start room ||

[dusky grove]

I would like to god dang snipe them

[dusky grove]

imagine being able to even pass floor a

[shell reef]

They respawn if you're ||two rooms away||

[robust marsh]

i didn't use the sniper yet is it good?

with the buffs

i didn't see any damage reduced

[shell reef]

I would say the Hel rifle is just better

[robust marsh]

im saying for giants

[shell reef]

Even so I'd say the Hel Rifle is better

[dusky grove]

Can the cocoons respawn giants?

[shell reef]

afaik ||no for scouts||

[robust marsh]

they just can't respawn scouts

thankfully

[odd veldt]

Does anyone have image of charger scout ?

[jolly raven]

I don't have image but here is the clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/SneakyBoringKimchiHeyGuys-SxpNSjZIVEP_e2ES

[odd veldt]

Thanks man

[jolly raven]

👍

[mellow creek]

damn how do that fit into the story now that they dont come from mutated people

damn this rundown makes having a player lighthouse v feasible

just let him afk in rooms w ballsacks

l0l0l

[chrome dagger]

Is the ||Charger Scout|| the only new enemy?

[dusky grove]

I mean if you dont count cocoons then yes I think

[chrome dagger]

ok

[dusky grove]

Is there some kind of audio glitch in game cuz i keep hearin them like they right next to me but i cant see them

[dark bane]

@robust marsh im pretty sure i had a scout respawn on A1 or A2 but maybe we just missed it

not sure

that or my memory is fussy

[split cipher]

no scout respawns on A2

[dark bane]

huh

[split cipher]

for me*

[dark bane]

actually thinking back

it might be me misremembering A2 hard after picking up the objective item

[split cipher]

nv PE?

[dark bane]

nah

because ik the audio glitched so there wasnt an infinite alarm

[split cipher]

O,O wat

so clear the wave first b4 opening the door?

[dark bane]

oops my phrasing is bad

[split cipher]

the respawning sacs have the same audio output as sleepers

[dark bane]

there was an infinite alarm, the audio glitched so we couldnt hear the infinite alarm

so when my friend pinged the aggro'ed strikers running at us I thought it was a scout at first

and yeah fuzzy memory since lots of runs today

also just wondering but what is a2 overload since im prob gonna attempt that next

[fair hill]

You grab a HDD from it's zone after grabbing the high objective Crate.

[split cipher]

||babies charging at u with a mother behind|| with the wave from the start of inifinite alarm

[dark bane]

this is an A level?

interesting

[robust marsh]

its good

[split cipher]

died 2 times to the Overload door

no burst cannon, next best weapon the mg....

[dark bane]

how useful is cfoam?

[split cipher]

almost killed the mother but we woulda lost anyway our rear got overruned

[dark bane]

F

[robust marsh]

hel rifle best rifle

done

[dark bane]

so strat is to have 2 people defend infinite wave while 2 people defend?

[pulsar zodiac]

prob have someone stay in the cocoon zone

[split cipher]

not sure abt cfoam, but auto sentry is better in that lvl than burst sentry

[dark bane]

lmao is it bad that I use the semi shotgun

[pulsar zodiac]

having people stay in cocoon zone stop the respawn

[split cipher]

how many ppl u need ||to take out a mother with active baby wave o,o||

[pulsar zodiac]

3 is enough I would say

[dark bane]

.... good question

my group have only killed mothers via glitch spots lmao

[pulsar zodiac]

dont need to rush the mother

you can stay outside of overload zone

[robust marsh]

i have a good strat for the mother soooo

[split cipher]

i clipped into a lot of babies entering the overload bulkhead

[pulsar zodiac]

clear baby waves

then wait for mother to come out

[robust marsh]

by putting mines

[split cipher]

u brought 1 burst 1 auto? or only 1 auto

[pulsar zodiac]

A2 have quite a lot of c-foam grenade

too

[robust marsh]

yes

thats why you don't take any cfoam

[split cipher]

only 1 or 2 doors need

if u even need, land mine the door the whole wave cleared when normal break

[robust marsh]

that you can just defend so no cfoam needed

well

it depends on your skill

if you not that good props are you should cfoam the doors

[pulsar zodiac]

the only tool that we used before the overload was mine

[split cipher]

wats the next best option

without burst cannon

[errant vigil]

shotgun

[split cipher]

pump/manual sg?

[pulsar zodiac]

both shotgun

[robust marsh]

hel rifle can one shot the things on the back

so you just rush her with hel rifle and kill her

but someone else needs to help you

as you don't have enough time

if you even cfoam her

[split cipher]

clear shot is 1 thing, but being able to track that shot...

[robust marsh]

i mean its still good

but thats for my strat

[split cipher]

well, everyone's rusty

[robust marsh]

yes

[boreal shell]

teammate of the year everybody https://clips.twitch.tv/SmellyCredulousGarageAliens-FIGbLY5_S1h1x5CO

[dark bane]

btw i heard from someone about how when the scout deploys their tentacles they have a ~1 second invulnerability period

anyone can confirm?

[stuck vapor]

is the alarm after picking up cargo in A2 an error alarm or just one wave?

[dark bane]

error

[stuck vapor]

surge error?

[dark bane]

nah just infinite you gotta run back to extraction with the cargo while basically fighting off waves of 3 - 4

though the enemies do respawn so gotta watch out for that

might want a guy standing in the rooms to prevent respawns idk

[stuck vapor]

ahhhhh

[dark bane]

if you going for overload cant help you there, haven't done it

[stuck vapor]

that's probably what happened

at first was only 1-2 and then a huge wave came

k that makes sense

[dark bane]

yeah when I did it w/ my friends we managed to shoot through XD

20% health, two down, the last guy managed to finish them off and revive us

not when they aggro

hmm alright then

not sure cuz someone mentioned it but i do know that when scouts deploy tentacles they like to do all sorts of bullshit like bending down backwards n shit so

maybe they just hit them in back or neck or chest or something

[dark bane]

oh yeah im pretty sure I just watched that run of yours on twitch, from what I gather the extreme area literally just shuts off light completely for the entire map, probably why you didnt notice the huge ass cocoons on the ceiling that indicated respawned enemies

[tall spire]

same as you say before, the 3-4 waves of normal sleepers, drop the cargo kill the mother and the kids(they are all over the place, so avoid the mother's birth), hdd hunt (overload check, is a big place we use the terminal to ping it) then pick up the cargo and str8 to extraction, with some luck ya only need to clear one respawn zone ..

[stuck vapor]

Oh we noticed the cocoons, just didn't think about the respawning enemies getting pulled by the error alarm spawns

Gonna be an adjustment period to playstyle with respawning enemies

also thanks for checking out my twitch lol

[rapid grail]

wow the respawn system sucks. its sooooo fun cleaning the same room with the EXACT same enemies on the same spot over and over again. Its not fun, its not hard, its just an annoying timesink. and they call it "content" xD

[errant vigil]

not hard until you get to later levels with lower supplies and need to actually stealth to have enough resources to complete the level

[frail zinc]

like i said it wouldn't be a problem if they fixed the bad enemy spawning

not fun when the entire zone spawns in one room

[stuck vapor]

It's a mechanic that I think would be fun if used sparingly. Since this is the first rundown with the mechanic it's going to be everywhere, but my hope is in future rundowns it's less common and used in such a way to add actual difficulty instead of just put everywhere randomly

[errant vigil]

yea c1 respawn room is put there randomly

[pseudo pumice]

i feel like c1 does it really well

[pseudo mantle]

Hey, so how does Artifact Heat work

Does anyone know?

[stuck vapor]

randomly was poor word choice

[pseudo pumice]

i don't really like how it's just spammed everywhere in a1 so i can understand some of these initial complaints towards the system

[frail zinc]

100% heat= 0.1 progress towards booster per artifact

1 progress= 1 booster

[stuck vapor]

As with any new mechanic they introduce it should be a tool to add variance to missions and complexity to rundowns, and it seems like they always tend to overuse things in the rundown they're introduced

[frail zinc]

overuse is a understatement

[pseudo mantle]

And I lose heat and my current gained boosters when I quit an expedition, I noticed. I had to take a break and it warned me I'd lose my accrued boosters and I noticed that my Heat level remained the same.

Accrued artifacts, that is.

[stuck vapor]

it's a natural human tendency, they've made shiny new toy for themselves, they want to play with it as much as possible

[frail zinc]

everyone still having PTSD from errors

kekw

[split cipher]

actually, heat doesnt make sense... im more likely to continue bashing a lvl b4 going to the next one, than i am to jump here and there

[frail zinc]

its there to stop people farming easy levels

the boosters are stupidly strong at times.

[pseudo pumice]

yup exactly. although they tend to do the opposite with new environments lmaoo

[pseudo mantle]

Does heat reset then?

Or gradually go up when you go do other levels?

[frail zinc]

if you play diffefrent levels

[stuck vapor]

yes

[pseudo mantle]

Aaaaaa

Okay, thanks!

[lucid yoke]

Are there any shadows in this rundown? If so, which levels?

[pseudo mantle]

I was a little annoyed but I understand now.

[pseudo pumice]

if you return to lobby then you will keep artifacts but lose heat

[frail zinc]

its just a anti farming thing

[stuck vapor]

Heat is... fine, I'm not sure I like the fact that it goes down when you fail a mission, particularly if you fail or crash within the first few minutes of a mission

[frail zinc]

to stop people just spamming A1 to get all the boosters they want

[pseudo mantle]

I'm fine with that! I just thought that I was missing out on shit by quitting my expeditions.

And it was tilting me a bit.