respawn too? or do you mean with error alarms?
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
craggy flame
rapid grail
yeah the respawns
sterile isle
anyone else having clicking lobbies? and unable to drop?
urban brook
been having issues with enemies spawning/appearing point blank, during alarms and room travel anyone else?
rapid grail
been having issues with enemies spawning/appearing point blank, during alarms an...
yes the respawing enemies is the new "feature" its annoying
urban brook
not respawning
urban brook
like i enter a new room, travel around then suddenly im standing in a group, or during an alarm they are appearing at my feet
light niche
That's op wtf
15 percent projectile can easily be shrugged off
Unless a teammate decides to clap you with a sniper
sand beacon
Lmao
That health bonus means you heal like 28 hp per charge
And you get 25 percent ammo / tool per charge
I assume
light niche
The glow stick part
sick hornet
on 2nd A1 run
light niche
Glow stick DAMAGE?
light niche
Oh
light niche
I thought it meant I can finally kill scouts by tossing a glow stick at its head
tulip vale
Z tier when
sand beacon
R69 :P
atomic escarp
Do bosters only last for a few missions or are they good for the rest of the rundown?
sand beacon
20 shadow scouts and big chargers for every room please
Nah, it’ll be an endless procedural generation survival with ammo locked behind micro transactions
tulip vale
Kill sleeper? $9.99 USD
craggy flame
It is not
craggy flame
Find out I guess^^
rocky marsh
f
devout citrus
Why would sleepers repawn at the exact same place when you leave certain zone...that dosent make any sense
rapid grail
Why would sleepers repawn at the exact same place when you leave certain zone......
jup , annoying mechanic to strech time. its not even difficult just time consuming to clear the same room over and over again
devout citrus
I dont like that 😒
maiden kindle
how do the sacks work exactly?
fierce laurel
lmao
maiden kindle
always?
split quarry
can you destroy the sacks or something?
robust marsh
soooo i just went to B3 Extreme
and i am very scared
of what happened
and i want to say GJ devs
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
and also boosters are amazing
hearty bridge
on a2 over there is ||mother + childrens or only childrens?|| im confused after we die 😛
queen nymph
same lol
sand beacon
||there’s a mother, and then a hard drive to pick up in the zone||
manic meteor
b1 overload has ||Scout Charger ||
silent ocean
b1 overload has ||Scout Charger ||
a what....
sick hatch
spoilers for b1overload||so like theres a charger scout and 30+ uses of ammo/tool and im scared||
odd veldt
b1 overload has ||Scout Charger ||
is that a new enemy or what ?
manic meteor
I believe so
odd veldt
Scout and Charger i mean
buoyant dust
hey, anyone know if there's a limit on boosters? Like, if you reach 0% heat on a level, you don't get any?
manic void
yeah I think that you wont get anything at 0%
but it recharges when you play other levels
fallen elm
@manic meteor is tht 1 of each or is tht a combined enemy ?
manic meteor
combined into 1
buoyant dust
thanks, @manic void I was just wondering that
manic void
np
buoyant dust
cause if you finish the rundown, you won't get any bosters
manic void
you have to collect enough to get the booster progress to 100%
if you just collect a couple its not enough
lime shadow
ah
stiff cave
Oof, so need to collect several and then it only lasts for a few expeditions?
manic void
yeah
odd veldt
jesus b1 overload
what happened ?
rocky marsh
bro
its reactor
with bigs and hybrids
7 waves
thats fucked
broooo
3 sniper sentry is the setup
calm vessel
||wrong map||
burnt goblet
Assuming it's the same from R2, yes it's good
Ouch
third scout appear behind you
Nothing personal kids
sand beacon
Scout respawn? yikes
rocky marsh
Assuming it's the same from R2, yes it's good
yeh with extra ammo in clip or something
burnt goblet
Increased magazine size. Burst rifle was my bread and butter in r2
burnt goblet
Can't wait till I get home, 4 hours to go
tough totem
how do the roof sacks work? i've tried activating them on A1 and nothing happened
harsh pelican
how do the roof sacks work? i've tried activating them on A1 and nothing happene...
The sacs repopulate a room when nobody within 2 rooms is nearby.
tough totem
ah, ok. that would make sense
harsh pelican
similar spawning mechanic to how alarms work
quiet moth
Did anyone find the new enemy?
split quarry
The sacs repopulate a room when nobody within 2 rooms is nearby.
do they respawn a room just once?
quiet moth
do they respawn a room just once?
many times , no limit
split quarry
that seems annoying tbh
quiet moth
it is
quiet moth
that's why you cant run to the extraction like we did before
mellow creek
the entire zone
quiet moth
and the enemy spawns at the same place as those you found in the room before
rocky marsh
Did anyone find the new enemy?
yeh charger scout
b1 overload
its like a super fast walking scout
that looks like a big charger
quiet moth
yeh charger scout
it seems scary
mellow creek
b3 is a whole stage of black sausage fest
lilac cloak
how long do boosters last?
quiet moth
how long do boosters last?
i guess just for 1 level for 1 time
hearty bridge
Extreme>High->after main objective -> overload
quiet moth
I think this rundown gonna be extended later...but it looks so easy right now , i hope it doesn't take too long until they release A3/B3/C3 and D2
hushed moon
^^^
twilit remnant
Ur stinky
sterile isle
so does one guy just dive into overload and run while main item is transported back?
twilit remnant
What do all the boosters do and how do I get them
hearty bridge
so does one guy just dive into overload and run while main item is transported b...
in theory yes, after u deal with a suprise
sterile isle
in theory yes, after u deal with a suprise
yeah that...
my teammates didnt know, didnt wanna spoil them
hearty bridge
enjoy then 😄
sterile isle
maiden kindle
did anyone complete d2 yet?
quiet moth
did anyone complete d2 yet?
there's no D2 level , just D1
sterile isle
did anyone complete d2 yet?
preparing for r5 ext already, i see
sick hornet
Probably not
maiden kindle
oh yeah i mean d1
sick hornet
If someone did they skipped levels
quiet moth
its mostly impossible if someone manage to reach D1 rn , mostly until the end of the day i think
twilit remnant
frost you don't know how fast speed runners are
late zephyr
Ok so the black pods encourage you to afk in the room unless you are doing alarms???
sick hornet
Yes
late zephyr
ah thats kinda wack
woven tree
RIP long kiting
late zephyr
Like if its a few enemies you just stealth them in exact same way and if its many you literally cant risk them respawning
sick hornet
If you manage to get enough enemies awake the game just dies
Free revives
Square from what ive seen scouts dont respawn
And i havent seen any giants in rooms with those
So it is probably just going to end up being annoying
late zephyr
Man I cant imagine having to deal with scouts everytime I go back
twilit remnant
Does b hop exist still
glass sundial
Square from what ive seen scouts dont respawn
had a scout respawn in my C2 run
Caused a 3 scout alert lol
glass sundial
The respawning is supposed to push sneaking past enemies, I think
Not, clear the room then sit afk in it
glass sundial
R3A2 the devs intended for players to skip the giants in the first room then fight them during extract
twilit remnant
Respawn in a previous room?
glass sundial
But people just killed the room instead
If cocoons are present, enemies will respawn in that zone if you leave
sterile isle
Wish we could just shoot em cocoons
twilit remnant
ok so how does respawning work
glass sundial
Not 100% sure. Leaving the zone seems to be a requirement though
twilit remnant
Do they respawn in the room they originally came frome
glass sundial
I was killing a frank then I heard enemies clicking behind the wall
late zephyr
The room just gets reset
glass sundial
Also had a striker respawn foamed
twilit remnant
hmm... So you have to reclesr rooms... Wtf
late zephyr
atleast thats my expierience with the enemies changing places very little
glass sundial
Honestly better to just sneak past them
twilit remnant
this makes alarms harder j think....
sterile isle
Gets annoying tbvh
desert shell
oh just discovered if you let a single teammate stand in a room it'll not respawn?
sterile isle
Yup mash
glass sundial
7 hybrids in a small zone is not worth your time to repeatedly reclear
sterile isle
Until you need to do team scan
twilit remnant
ugh.....
This is dumb
It'd be better to respawn in specific rooms
.. not all rooms
late zephyr
Also it kind of makes going expedition the first time more annoying since you want the freedom to explore everything and dont know if right after the room you skipped you will have alarm door
twilit remnant
Yeah it's dumb.
late zephyr
it is specific
harsh pelican
They only respawn in rooms with cocoons, but having to do alarms/team scans makes traversing these rooms multiple times a requirement.
twilit remnant
What are cocoons
sterile isle
I'm not saying it's unplayable but devs could have been a little more merciful with the A-tier, from my experience playing with fairly new players. Don't eat me
harsh pelican
the hanging sacs on the ceiling
twilit remnant
And how often do they exist
sterile isle
They're just there the whole time
twilit remnant
oh...
harsh pelican
depends on the level, but they're always present on the same rooms in a level
sterile isle
Yep ._.
twilit remnant
Can someone send me a screen
desert shell
And how often do they exist
well in almost every room
glass sundial
90% sure it's to push you into sneaking past them until you see an alarm door, then secure the area
twilit remnant
send screenshot
glass sundial
Rather than the Pre-R5 gameplay of massacring the entire sleeper playerbase on sight
Just have to change your approach
twilit remnant
So r5 forces you to stealth a lot more
glass sundial
It heavily punishes 20% hp melee clearing everything
twilit remnant
So it's either stealth or waste resources?
sterile isle
Your choice, honestly
glass sundial
You can still stealth through zones while taking out safe kills fairly quickly
sterile isle
Hahaha
glass sundial
But mass clearing zones as we're used to is redundant at best
twilit remnant
Wouldn't this make alarm extractions harder
harsh pelican
It doesn't really punish it when you know how the level works, it only punishes first attempts at it
twilit remnant
If you have to traverse rooms
glass sundial
Yeah but you can shut doors during extract
sick hornet
Zaero what time do you get on in the afternoon
glass sundial
So it doesn't matter that much
late zephyr
Its just kinda annoying especially on A2 when you are going to exit and the only reason you die is because of a place 2 rooms back respawning and you having no knowledge of it starting an alarm
pulsar zodiac
b1 giant charger error alarm is a scam
glass sundial
I don't I'm going to sleep shortly
sterile isle
Its just kinda annoying especially on A2 when you are going to exit and the only...
Omg yes
sick hornet
After you wake up
glass sundial
work
twilit remnant
So for A1 what do we have to do
sick hornet
Normal people afternoon
sterile isle
So for A1 what do we have to do
||Forward exit zone||
pulsar zodiac
I thought the giant chargers gonna slap 40 dmg
twilit remnant
||Forward exit zone||
||clearing a path to a second exit?||
sterile isle
Im so glad some one knows my pain ;_;
T . T
sterile isle
||clearing a path to a second exit?||
||Yes thats generally what the main is about||
Hang on this is spoiler chat
I forgot
twilit remnant
Do we still have our auto sentry and sniper sentry
sterile isle
Yes
twilit remnant
Yay
sterile isle
Tools still the same
sand beacon
I didn’t have much issue with A2 respawns
twilit remnant
Aside from nerfed boom stick
sand beacon
only had to clear 1 room twice
sterile isle
I didn’t have much issue with A2 respawns
What abt the way back for overload
sand beacon
A1 we had to clear the same room 3 times
late zephyr
Wait do boosters get better with deeper stages or are they meant to be a "doesnt really matter but nice" thing
sand beacon
We just walked out, was no issue
sterile isle
Tf? 
late zephyr
I didn’t have much issue with A2 respawns
a true chad right here
sand beacon
Possibly we lucked out and never went far enough away for it to respawn
sterile isle
Wait do boosters get better with deeper stages or are they meant to be a "doesnt...
I have no clue yet, sadly : ^)
sand beacon
||cause we spent ages getting fucked by the mother||
late zephyr
we went balls deep with extreme and boi was it fun ||staggering trough the darkness||
sick hornet
I woke up like 3 scouts disregarding any double spawns XD
late zephyr
yeah also thats another thing
sterile isle
Yeah one guy in my team got the ||hard drive|| but never made it out of the ||b3 extreme ish zone|| bcus of the ||babies||
A couple of them glitched into a column where 3 of us were downed
sand beacon
Yeah that happened to me
sterile isle
So if any of us got near it we'd get raped
sand beacon
but it was like 10+ babies
sterile isle
YEAH EXACTLY
late zephyr
going into A stages thinking they are easy work where you dont need sniper only to be met with || not needing them cause there were almost always two||
twilit remnant
Does anyone know what the boosts are
sterile isle
Literally boost HAHA
glass sundial
I kept getting damage buffs while near glowsticks
sterile isle
Like power ups
twilit remnant
I mean what do they do
sand beacon
They’re mostly cool passives like ||faster scans while holding hack tool||
late zephyr
they booooost
sterile isle
Increase your characteristics
twilit remnant
They’re mostly cool passives like ||faster scans while holding hack tool||
Is this actually true
sand beacon
the aggressive slot ones have some broken bonuses
sterile isle
E.g. more med heal % or faster revive
slim stream
Are the cocoons on all the levels?
twilit remnant
CHEESE STRAT
sand beacon
Yeah I legit got one of those
twilit remnant
How do you get them
sick hornet
yep
sterile isle
1.000 i mean 
sand beacon
There’s artifacts in the levels, and every ten you pick up you get a new random bonus from that category
sick hornet
not 10
sick hornet
each one has a different value
sick hornet
well mostly 10
sand beacon
huh, I didn’t notice that
sick hornet
the heat level is how much you get from it
sterile isle
Crystal-ish items lying around
sand beacon
Oh right
sick hornet
if your heat is 75% each is worth 0.075 not 0.1
twilit remnant
Can you ping them with terminals
sick hornet
no
sterile isle
No
twilit remnant
can you farm A1 for boosts
sand beacon
Same as equipment
sick hornet
kind of
late zephyr
ror 2 focus crystal
sick hornet
the more you play a level the heat goes down
sand beacon
The more you play a level the lower the heat gets
sterile isle
Each time you repeat the expedition consecutively you lower your heat, lower heat means less points earned for each artifact collected
twilit remnant
What's heat
sterile isle
its better to cycle 3 levels for max efficiency
^
sick hornet
i think its heat
sterile isle
Artifact heat
sick hornet
idk it dropped at 4am i am not awake
sterile isle
Hahaha
twilit remnant
So heat resets the more you don't do that level?
sick hornet
yes
sterile isle
Ye
sick hornet
3 levels for max efficiency
twilit remnant
A1 a2 b1 time
sterile isle
100% artifact heat is what you should go for
twilit remnant
A1 a2 time
sick hornet
pretty sure A2 ext is the easiest to get them in
late zephyr
Now to wait for some one with extra time to make a guide on their locations
sterile isle
I can foresee players just searching the floors for artifacts
late zephyr
Ah
sterile isle
Seen it and done that, not guilty of it
sick hornet
maybe
sterile isle
Might be one of the reasons
sick hornet
probably not
late zephyr
hopefully not
sick hornet
one of the reasons is def kiting nerf
sterile isle
But not absolutely
late zephyr
I can diffidently find enjoyment in farming for that perfect booster
sterile isle
Nice
late zephyr
Hell id even go for solos then
late zephyr
All ive got so far are special damage at bioscan range
This
what even is special damage or bioscan range
like alarm scans?
sterile isle
Hell id even go for solos then
I wish you good luck then
No clue about the former but the latter sounds like its referring to security/alarm door scans
Not sure how helpful that will be
late zephyr
ah got one that gives melee dmg in bioscan range ....
willow light
Is there a limit on boosters, or you could in theory just continue to farm them? In 1 single mission that is.
sterile isle
But im digging the med heal up % and faster revive booster
sick hornet
well yea theres a limit, they dont respawn
sterile isle
Yes limitrd spawns
sterile isle
ah got one that gives melee dmg in bioscan range ....
Useful imo, if youre planning to save ammo
rocky marsh
b1 overload tip: force spawn further back by running to forward rooms during reactor waves
and b1 extreme is poo fog
sick hornet
:(
wild wyvern
idk what it is right now though
you need 10 of one type to unlock a single boost of the respective category, and you can definitely find more than 10 for each category of booster
you can find extra too
and at the end all the boosters ur team found add up
so 12/10 boosters= one booster at the end
19/10= one booster at the end
idk if there's enough to get 2 of a type of booster but i imagine there is always enough to get at least one of each 3 categories
from what i've seen
honest mortar
The booster progress carries over though.
manic badge
do you lose progress when failing?
I'd assume so
honest mortar
Confirmed with Doc earlier that quitting out keeps your progress.... not sure about dying, but not sure why it would be different.
manic badge
ty
viscid wing
b2 prisoner efficiency is pure headache
sick hornet
you need 10 of one type to unlock a single boost of the respective category, and...
spawns in the level, not needed amount
wild wyvern
yea i just found out it's most likely random amounts for each category of booster
like my friends found 23/8/2
mossy yoke
do you lose progress when failing?
I'd assume so
Winning, or failing an expedition keeps progress. Retire to lobby will, but exiting the expedition won't (like the prompts say).
sick hornet
can you say the intended reasoning behind the respawns? is it supposed to be incentive to not backtrack, not kite back to spawn, or a bit of both?
safe tendon
increase playtime artificially and take players by surprise ?
amber ingot
I'd say surprise players and also cut down on level size
safe tendon
Can the respawns be stopped via an objective or destroy something ?
(haven't had a chance to try, still at work)
light niche
seems to be a lot of negative feedback on respawns so far lol, i can see why they did it, but i dont think it'll stop kiting
grave stirrup
I’ve seen people mention cocoons, but I’m not sure those can be destroyed
light niche
since there's still the max spawn limit, yeah?
they cant afaik, i smashed my hammer into a nutsack earlier and it was fine
amber ingot
Not that I know of, But your gun with unrelax and your hammer circle will go small on the sacks. I've tried to shoot and hammer and nothing hurt them.
safe tendon
since there's still the max spawn limit, yeah?
I am assuming yeah, solo speedrunners need that spawn cap.
amber ingot
What triggers the respawn? Objectives?
light niche
yeah, i went into the next room and heard a sleeper in the previous room
and i was 90% sure i killed all the sleepers in the room i just came from lol
atomic escarp
There's Quite a lot of charger in b1 lmao
light niche
was just a single sleeper that respawned though
lavish cloak
Respawn might be distance based, we noticed it only happened if you were at least 2 rooms away
safe tendon
So closing doors is now a must ? So they don't hear a shot?
grave stirrup
I imagine some don’t like it because players feel like it undoes the work they put in to kill those enemies
I haven’t tried it out yet, so I’ve got no clue
light niche
im starting to lean toward just leaving rooms alone now
well, leaving the enemies alive i mean
lavish cloak
In a game of limited resources I can see why it would be concerning. Spend too long and you'll just waste ammo. But if you sneak past or hammer it's fine
light niche
i usually try to clear rooms but if they're just gunna come back im just gunna let them live
safe tendon
The respawn thing will mostly affect average and below players. The sweats will just charge every room loud with hammers.
safe tendon
The people that are really good at the game and know all the tricks and timings.
grave stirrup
Are respawns common? Or just a now and then thing
safe tendon
ive legit never heard of the terminology the sweats before lol
I was reusing a term used in Destiny to describe hardcore tryhards.
calm lynx
R5 have new type of scout?
calm lynx
I encountered Scout Charger
pulsar zodiac
yes in B1 overload
rain heron
o_o wat????
candid olive
scoutger
pulsar zodiac
we need to find another level that has charger scout near the start
mellow creek
go b3 extreme
calm lynx
After killed it, it will spawn 2 big charger
pulsar zodiac
After killed it, it will spawn 2 big charger
it didnt spawn 2 big charger
the bridge itself has 2 big chargers
calm lynx
Oh i see.
Because the bio tracker and sniper view, didn't see anything but just that.
lol
Could hammer can kill the scout charger?
calm lynx
I think need hit on the back?
mellow creek
maybe need a 3man hit
calm lynx
instead of head.
calm lynx
After you failed, it spawn normal creep or charger?
frail elbow
harsh pelican
Chargers and its deviants don't have head hitboxes, their back is the only weakspot
calm lynx
Well done. ❤️
pulsar zodiac
I think I did hit his back
zealous kayak
hmm
i think they not stacked
but instead respawn to the exact number when you cleared
basically it an endless silent wave
pulsar zodiac
which level
zealous kayak
i mean the zone with cocoon
jolly raven
Hmm so, no difficulty scaling for R5... I assume artifacts help for solo?
pulsar zodiac
cocoon do make kite trickier I would say
rocky marsh
yeh charger scout is to the back
normal wave though
jsut finished b1 PE
extreme blood doors are pretty easy, its just the piss fog that you need to be careful of
atomic escarp
anyone had try r5d1 yet ?
pulsar zodiac
hsu scan fog is normal fog
pulsar zodiac
the error alarm did scared me for a bit
rocky marsh
hel rifles and sniper sentries were really good for the waves
pulsar zodiac
then found out its actually fake giant chargers
candid dragon
charger scout dies to single full melee to back?
hollow skiff
Can anyone help me pls
candid dragon
what do you need
hollow skiff
Trying to do A2 overload
gloomy nacelle
so what kinda hacking does the terminal in a1 involve?.
flint sinew
Are the new rundown weapons any good? I've tried the Double-Tap and I'm not really sure what to think of it
pulsar zodiac
double is very good
light niche
i heard some people say DT is good
i tried HSMG earlier, it was ok i guess
might stick with AR
can never go wrong with AR
pulsar zodiac
double tap 1 head 1 body
light niche
does the first shot decap them or something?
pulsar zodiac
decap
flint sinew
my only issue with the DT is the ammo but that just might be me being a potato with aim at times
sacred nebula
Trying to do A2 overload
Try looking for a group on the lfg channels! 🙂
hollow skiff
Found one we just didn’t know how to open overload door lol
pulsar zodiac
after you pick up the obj cargo
hollow skiff
Yeah we realized that until someone picked it up by accident
pulsar zodiac
rebirth
more like
lockdown
zealous kayak
also the artifact heat %
pulsar zodiac
there is a lot of lockdown in this rundown
zealous kayak
yup
candid olive
GIVE US SNATCHERS
candid olive
i think it's how many fragments or how potent they are
velvet flower
Didn't play too much, but seems heat level cannot go below 50%, and play another expedition increase other expeditions heat level.
zealous kayak
..yeah...it quite weird
maybe it like spawn rate of fragment?
the lower the rate the lesser?
velvet flower
Heat level is the booster efficiency
one fragment with 100% = 0.1, one fragment with 50% heat = 0.05
zealous kayak
i see so the lower rate the slower you gain boost from fragment to earn arti
velvet flower
so need to collect 10 fragments for a booster if heat level is 100%, need to collect double the amount of fragments if heat level 50%
zealous kayak
wth is all_item_zone?
atomic escarp
any new monster in this roundown ?
pulsar zodiac
b3 extreme holy hell
sick hornet
charger scout is one
mossy yoke
wth is all_item_zone?
Should be zone 99.
mossy yoke
wth is all_item_zone?
Should be zone 99.
prisma swan
charger scout is one
im sorry what now?
sick hornet
from what i hear b1 overload has a charger scout
havent played it yet, school go brrr ;-;
wish the rundowns dropped on a weekend
prisma swan
i havent either and im not sure i want to play it anymore with this information
tulip vale
fast angry scout
plucky summit
whats the sentry and whats the sentry gun ?
sick hornet
wdym
burnt goblet
There's 3 sentries; Burst, auto, and sniper
plucky summit
i got a booster for sentry damage and another for sentry gun damage
idk which is for which
light niche
might be mislabeled tooltip
burnt goblet
Get doc in here
sick hornet
just inconsistent wording
light niche
yeah
lone violet
Weapon wise this Rundown Is great
Difficulty wise, meh, maybe
Gotta go dive deeper to see If Its any challenge
plucky summit
one has a tooltip the other one doesnt
lone violet
But the Artifacts? With 10% damage + for Sentry's and weapons? Like, It's just horrible. It just eases the game far too much.
light niche
maybe dmr can finally one tap kill with headshots with artifacts lol
for some reason they buffed dmr body dmg and im like... you're not gunna be aiming at their body if you're using dmr
lone violet
It should just one tap regardless then In the head
But this entire RNG Artifact stuff Is just a joke honestly
calm vessel
you dont have to use them if you dont want to
light niche
just going from the description, yeah, seems to add quite a bit of inconsistency between each run
woeful lintel
I think its for charger wise
light niche
everyone wont be on even footing anymore
calm vessel
and if you want to run a boosterless game you can ask that in LFG
lone violet
and if you want to run a boosterless game you can ask that in LFG
Gatekeeping at Its finest, keep It up buddy. Can't wait what's next gents, you will probably say the same anyway then.
harsh pelican
make a LFG with a requirement of a 20% melee resistance booster, I could see it
lone violet
Your only response Is literally 'don't use It then.'
calm vessel
and?
clear bone
If ya don't want to use it you don't have to
calm vessel
you dont like it then why would you use it if you want a challenge
lone violet
It's the addition of RNG off lobby, as well Into the game, If you can't see changes like that below the scope, then there's little to discuss with the likes of you.
clear bone
I think it does add to the gameplay. My friends and I are filthy casuals who could really use the boosters especially on the extreme difficulties.
clear bone
The A missions seem a bit easier in r5 than r4 but I think that's alright
Gives us a way to get the boosters for other missions
late zephyr
It also adds that excitement of actually "preparing"
harsh pelican
RNG dependent is right though, something like glowstick proximity boosts or marginal damage resistances to projectiles aren't gonna be game changers.
lone violet
It also adds that excitement of actually "preparing"
There's no 'preparing' Into putting boosters on your character.
craggy flame
But It's never about, what It adds
In my opinion:
what it adds:
- an edge for newer players
- fun builds for advanced players
- replayability
- the foundation for progression systems
negative value:
- it is not really what people wanted
- way to grindy imo
- does not actually matter
- makes it in some cases too easy
lone violet
see it gives the players who need a slight push something to get them through
I am probably the worst shooter out there, but by simply thinking before shooting you come a long way.
clear bone
There's no 'preparing' Into putting boosters on your character.
Yeah there is, we run and fail the mission a few times and then once we know what the mission is like we add the boosters
late zephyr
^
lone violet
One Is actually Incentivising to work together, while the other Is just putting some modifier on your character,
That's what It has to do with It. But I guess working together Is asking of too much of people these days?
calm vessel
boosters can help the team too
lone violet
Doing so makes you sweaty? Not doing so, makes you a filthy casual>?
late zephyr
why do you care what it makes you like what
calm vessel
i never said anything about sweat or being casual with boosters
clear bone
I will 100% coordinate between friends which mods to use
late zephyr
what does it matter what it "makes you to be"
clear bone
The boosters don't make the team, the players make the team. The boosters are, as the name implies, a boost
late zephyr
Like some dumb flex of I didnt use any boosters. like cool good for you
sacred nebula
Hey, please let's calm down or change the topic. It's starting to get a bit too heated up
clear bone
Its not hard to just, not use the boosters if you don't like them
lone violet
what does it matter what it "makes you to be"
I am not gonna repeat my self.
lone violet
Its not hard to just, **not use the boosters** if you don't like them
Another laymen argument
Bring up something original at least
late zephyr
There are many ways to enjoy the game and I like that now you can scratch that itch of collecting an item
lone violet
At Cao had something to say
calm vessel
well i dont understand your point about boosters
clear bone
Originality doesn't make truth
lone violet
There are many ways to enjoy the game and I like that now you can scratch that i...
Like a looter shooter?
late zephyr
also ye this do be getting heated
sacred nebula
We can all agree to disagree, no need to start an argument over it
late zephyr
nah just that cute ding and getting closer to 1.00
calm vessel
fun to explore and now a purpose >w< ofc each new system has flaws
clear bone
Personally, I've been looking for a bit more character customization in this game and I think the boosters add just that
late zephyr
some of my friends dont like the stealth part of the game while others do
same with boosters
clear bone
Ngl wish I was good enough to speedrun loud
light niche
i got a friend with adhd and introducing him to this game was a nightmare lol
he simply cannot sit still
safe tendon
some of my friends dont like the stealth part of the game while others do
I bought the game for a bunch of friends, 90% disliked the stealth aspect and dropped it after a couple expeditions. So I stopped gifting the game.
late zephyr
Try playing with two teammates whose mouses arent working properly 🥲
light niche
about 33% of my friends i introduced the game to actually liked it lol
clear bone
The better you are at the game, the faster stealth gets
paper harness
Is a charger Scout one full charge to the back of the head?
light niche
and yeah, the stealth part doesnt take long once you get experienced for sure
late zephyr
I bought the game for a bunch of friends, 90% disliked the stealth aspect and dr...
Tell me about it I really enjoy the game but for most of my friends its just average
safe tendon
The better you are at the game, the faster stealth gets
so much so some people dont even need stealth and just hammer their way through every room in loud
clear bone
so much so some people dont even need stealth and just hammer their way through ...
stop hammer time
safe tendon
shadow boxes ? new cool concept xD
tulip vale
glitch most likely
light niche
it's a new enemy
tulip vale
true
rain heron
XD
safe tendon
you see it on biotracker ? could be cool
late zephyr
Ah the feeling of my friends ask if they should go help while I repeat "its ok" more and more distressed after triggering the whole room
sick hornet
yes
safe tendon
the janky melee system and the long dragging stealth sessions with newcomers can feel tedious
sick hornet
in pub lobbies running up and hitting a giant with a hammer is also amazing
A2 isnt that stealth heavy
late zephyr
I just wish you could see a bit farther with bio tracker or see the room edges so you can just no stealth hammer rooms
That slight confusion before you realise you cant melee 20 sleeper with more coming
safe tendon
upgrade the tracker with tool refills ? each upgrade adds something to it, up to a max of 3-4 charges ?
sick hornet
thats actually a really good idea
if it gets a slight range buff for tool that would be great
each tool could be like an extra 5% up to 25%
safe tendon
range , longer tags, tells if it's big guys, etc
late zephyr
Like for skilled players its a waste of a slot but really nice for first attempts
honest mortar
Honestly I would love for it to buff the length of the tracker scans, especially if its against the shadows.
late zephyr
oh yeah also that
sick hornet
you can already tell if they are big guys if they are tagged
range and tag time would be good
safe tendon
i meant in stealth
sick hornet
alternating, 6 tools max? +10% for each tool?
30% range and 30% tag time would be good
late zephyr
Also not enough ppl know they can hover over the booster modifiers for more info
safe tendon
it would fit in the "use resources strategically"
sick hornet
feels a bit heavy on tool for that, but i cant think of something in the middle
rain heron
guys, how the dmr performs now? seems it was buffed
sick hornet
It was
rain heron
cool!
vocal mural
hey how do we get boosters i did a rundown and collected artifacts but didnt get any booster modules
sick hornet
You need 1.0 to get a booster
If your artifact heat is at 100% each artifact gives 0.1
viral spruce
I'm here.
indigo lantern
So
They introduced this system
The rooms you cleared out will have their enemies respawned once you are 2-3 zones away from it
sick hornet
Yes
viral spruce
What? Why'd they do that?
indigo lantern
If you are a solo player you can pretty much shove it up your back now
viral spruce
Doesn't that beat the point of clearing a room?
indigo lantern
To be fair being able to play Benny Hill with the enemies in my opinion was kinda failed design
but this one, i'm not a fan of either
viral spruce
Does it respawn the entire room, or does it have some respawns?
indigo lantern
Probably not all, but enough
grave stirrup
It's only when cocoons are around too
vocal mural
wait so we have to get a 1 but what happens if we finish it with a 0.6 does it still carry over to the next floor?
craggy flame
Well you can decide when to clear a room. Most of the time there is no need to clear them all, but sometimes it is. There is an easy path to take in A1 without getting too much trouble with this mechanic
grave stirrup
Me either, I just learned about em. Theyre little egg sacks that let enemies respawn like y'all were sayin
craggy flame
and btw you can still solo A1
viral spruce
But you can't play A1, can you?
rain heron
yeah, there are some coccoons now in some rooms. when you clear that area and you get away from it, they respawn.
craggy flame
I can? häh
rain heron
you can play every mission, but i dont assure you to win by yourself.
indigo lantern
its most rooms
i'm not sure if they are randomly generated for each run tho
also the new boosters seem interesting, the ones I had were basic % stat boosts but I'm sure there are some unique ones that are more rare?
indigo lantern
they do
I'm talking about whether the cacoons for the same map are randomized like enemy spawns and item spawns or not
fair hill
@viral spruce the levels always follow the same letter labels
hushed moon
you can play every mission, but i dont assure you to win by yourself.
every mission meaning ones from that rundown @viral spruce
fair hill
we're referencing R5A1, not the other 4
indigo lantern
so currently its Rundown 5, so the A1 level is called R5A1
fair hill
viral spruce
But are there actually any kind of gameplay changes for playing alone?
Like if you're alone, Security Doors aren't as impossible to do?
indigo lantern
just like how R4A1 and R3A1 and R2A1 and R1A1 existed, but I remember when we called R1A1 just simply A1
good times
fair hill
sec doors are the same, but long kiting becomes an issue
craggy flame
They are still as impossible before and some levels kinda become almost impossible to solo
fair hill
and you'll be clearing rooms much more often
indigo lantern
i'm pretty sure the doors are the same and probably all mission objectives too
viral spruce
So if you're playing alone, the difficulty is still scaled for 4 people?
indigo lantern
its just that enemies respawn now
hushed moon
anyone hearing sleepers from adjacent rooms too for some reason
craggy flame
Some are still doable
viral spruce
Dang.
craggy flame
Like the B Tiers and A Tiers should be soloable
viral spruce
Shame. Kind of hard to get 3 other of my buddies to all get the game.
indigo lantern
With this new respawn mechanic I'm sure solo players are even more fucked
hushed moon
thats what makes soloing a level so prestigious
indigo lantern
well the game is on sale
viral spruce
Don't get me wrong, I get matchmaking, but talking to strangers can be awkward.
frail elbow
smg still kang
craggy flame
With this new respawn mechanic I'm sure solo players are even more fucked
It is not so bad. I soloed A1 so it is ok
fair hill
So if you're playing alone, the difficulty is still scaled for 4 people?
just dont talk lol
frail elbow
and hammer
harsh pelican
on the bright side, sustain scans have normalized scan times
indigo lantern
tell you what, make them buy the game, and if they don't like in in less than 2 hours they can refund it
viral spruce
Yeah, but... Doesn't that beat the point? To talk and coordinate?
harsh pelican
so they're not flat out impossible to complete solo
fair hill
well yeah, but if you're shy/akward, you can just use text chat
viral spruce
text chat
craggy flame
I agree
indigo lantern
tencent money can make wonders lemme tell ya
hushed moon
Doubletap rifle 1 shots if both hit the head
indigo lantern
first rundown their partnership really affected
more resources, better quality content
indigo lantern
Yes
viral spruce
Oh no.
indigo lantern
Announced between R3 and R4
rain heron
i wonder if this booster and artifact mechanic is the beginning of a reward system
craggy flame
Nothing bad happened yet🤷♂️
indigo lantern
Rundown 4 Extended was sort of a "gift" to us as celebration
and R5 is the "rebirth" of the game
rain heron
they didnt buy 10 chambers actually
indigo lantern
i said partnership
viral spruce
I hope we don't start getting DLC Rundowns
craggy flame
i wonder if this booster and artifact mechanic is the beginning of a reward syst...
D0c mentioned it it is. It is like a foundation for future systems
indigo lantern
they became a major stake holder at the company, which is 49% or below
rain heron
D0c mentioned it it is. It is like a foundation for future systems
beautiful
odd veldt
Hmmm
viral spruce
Gulps loudly.
odd veldt
This rundown is less than the previous one
indigo lantern
right now i'm sorta just pissed how the cacoons don't wisibly open up and give birth to the sleepers
rain heron
This rundown is less than the previous one
they are still making the tier d missions
hushed moon
right now i'm sorta just pissed how the cacoons don't wisibly open up and give b...
SAME I WANTED TO SEE IT HAPPEN
indigo lantern
and its dumb because the Mother enemy can breed little fucking enemies
but now they apparently chill on the ceiling?
make up your minds devs
hushed moon
dont get mad at them for it
Its like getting mad at them for not having enough lore or not understand the entire life cycle of a sleeper
odd veldt
they are still making the tier d missions
Will they dev the tier E next ?
indigo lantern
i want to see the cacoons tear up, start dripping, then a wet and slipper fucking sleeper slide out of it, and get alerted and attack you
rain heron
thats actually different. the mother births little sleepers. the coccoons seems to give to adult ones.
hushed moon
we still dont even know what they are or ||if the virus turns people into sleepers||
indigo lantern
they could get some goo on your gasmask too for a nice effect
craggy flame
they are still making the tier d missions
Do they? I think the Roadmap was simply not updated
viral spruce
I want to see weird, grody meat noises.
indigo lantern
E tier is probably being made right as we speak
A Rundown 5 extended is sure to release
rain heron
we still dont even know what they are or ||if the virus turns people into sleepe...
well the virus is clearly related to the mistery of the sleepers.
hushed moon
yeah
indigo lantern
there is the gas effect on the Rundown overview on the bottom again
hushed moon
but we still dont know much at all
apparently there is shittons of character lore this rundown though
TRUEEE
odd veldt
btw any new monsters in this rundown ?
rain heron
in one of the logs, they talked about "resucitations" so it seems the sleepers are possibly reborn humans.
or something like that.
fair hill
@odd veldt ||Charger Scout|| haven't gone deep enough yet to see anything New New
odd veldt
Watt
rain heron
yeah, its true apparently
odd veldt
<@!377817931595120641> ||Charger Scout|| haven't gone deep enough yet to see any...
Can i do fully charge to kill him ?
Or i must use sniper
fair hill
@odd veldt ||Not an easy solo kill, unless you have a boost or syringe, either shoot to kill or have teamate assistance||
rain heron
the sniper is now the burst cannon we must use
atomic escarp
theres still the old sniper too
shadow scroll
How can I access the Log in the final room of A2 high (where cargo is)
odd veldt
shadow scroll
I tried to access it but its like a really long list of corrupted audio files
wait..its fine that I don't use the spoiler blur right?
in this channel
shadow scroll
<:extreme:768796112298836008>
that's where I can find it?..
balmy vale
what do you guys think of the new booster system?
shadow scroll
not sure either lmao
haven't used it much
B1 High literally destroyed us
Error alarm spawn was sooo...unexpected
odd veldt
that's where I can find it?..
Np i just reply with nat
shadow scroll
Cocoon system is 🤡
odd veldt
what do you guys think of the new booster system?
Just played a1 without that, didnt neccessary of take less damage
shadow scroll
I mean A1,A2 High doesn't really need boost
rain heron
well, its kinda like the spitters in rundown 2. there were LOTS OF THEM.
and the game is still in early access
indigo lantern
at least booster progress remains
shadow scroll
Though the A1 and A2 of R5 is one of the hardest A levels I have ever played
indigo lantern
if you collect enough you'll get them even if you lose
which is an interesting way of "keep losing to gain a buff so that you can win"
shadow scroll
Though the A1 and A2 of R5 is one of the hardest A levels I have ever played
It totally caught us of guard with the amount of enemies we encounter every room and stuff
indigo lantern
but now im thinking what if you need to rely on boosters to win
shadow scroll
but now im thinking what if you need to rely on boosters to win
that would suck
atomic escarp
what is the artifact heat?
shadow scroll
But hopefully its possible to win without it
indigo lantern
artifact heat?
im guessing that it's like a volume of how many artifacts are out there
for you to find
odd veldt
Though the A1 and A2 of R5 is one of the hardest A levels I have ever played
You’re right, there are many sleepers in every doors that we need to careful
shadow scroll
Or maybe the chances that you'd find a artifact
indigo lantern
A1 and A2 both have 100% and they are littered with them
atomic escarp
I dropped into A1 solo for a bit, and it's down to 96%
late zephyr
what is the artifact heat?
how much points you get towards 1.00
indigo lantern
im sure there are people who are already playing D1 and know it better than me
shadow scroll
What's interesting is that, I played solo first with 100%
then i got 94% left on my second with a duo
then 100% again on my third with a squad
indigo lantern
Oh wait, right!
I think that makes sense
You keep playing the same map but the amoung of boosters will be limited?
mellow creek
whenever u play another level the previous's heat will increase by a lil
indigo lantern
Lets say there are 20 booster spawns on A1, you pick up 5 of them then you die, next time you drop down there will be 15 left and from 100% heat its down to 75% ?
fair hill
Artifact drop rate is still just rng, but they're value reduces
indigo lantern
I'm just guessing but probably got it wrong agian
atomic escarp
I just dropped solo again, picked up an artifact, and 'retired' back to lobby, down to 95% now. Does that mean there's ~100 in the A1 map?
shadow scroll
Artifact drop rate is still just rng, but they're value reduces
exactly
indigo lantern
I should play it for myself but nah frick that
shadow scroll
At least with the evidence it provides atm
seems like when you haven't played the level , its always set on 100% for you
Only then when you play, it starts randomizing a bit
biggest question is, what does the % represent
atomic escarp
i hope there's a new boss in this rundown
shadow scroll
could it be that when you oick up an artifact, you get higher percentage of attaining a booster for every piece u get
soft kraken
we all gonna ignore how C2 mission obj isnt tracking right
fair hill
At least with the evidence it provides atm
artifact pickup is a 0.100 of a boost, if your heat% drops to 75%, you only get 0.075 points per artifact pickup
soft kraken
😩
mossy yoke
The heat is how much the artifacts are worth, so a lower heat means you need to collect more artifacts to turn into boosters.
fair hill
^^^^
shadow scroll
hmm i see
fair hill
Complete other levels to reset heat% on previous levels
soft kraken
think of 100% heat being .1 meaning each artifact is 10% of a booster
fair hill
I am unsure if being host affects overall rates
prisma swan
you can beat the a levels without the boosts
soft kraken
Artifact heat is played based NAT
prisma swan
ive beaten a1 extreme and almost a2 pe without using them
shadow scroll
yeah its totally possible
but s**t happens when u reach b levels
but its tolerable
prisma swan
i feel like its gonna be really tough on the lower levels without any boosts
dire aspen
What was added to make exiting a level more difficult now?
soft kraken
The hidden snatcher on D1 is horrifying though tbh tbh
walked past it like 6 times not knowing it was there
pulsar zodiac
👀
atomic escarp
The hidden snatcher on D1 is horrifying though tbh tbh
snatcher ?
soft kraken
Yeah
prisma swan
new enemy
atomic escarp
what does the snatcher looks like
soft kraken
you able to play rn?
actually wait
add me on dis
we can play tonight
ill show ing
its hard to explain
pulsar zodiac
is it r2d2 type of reactor
atomic escarp
i was heading to sleep hahaha but sure i can add you on discord
pulsar zodiac
or regular reactor
dire aspen
What does the snatcher do?
wise swallow
Some1 complete full b1 ? How u def reactor ?
atomic escarp
damn
soft kraken
kind of like being slowly reeled in by a fishing rod you have to snap off
pulsar zodiac
The hidden snatcher on D1 is horrifying though tbh tbh
is D1 R2D2 kind of reactor
wise swallow
What we can do if my team suck before wave 3
We trying different setup
but it is hell when waves come
What guns u use ?
atomic escarp
heavy smg is soo good
soft kraken
dmr + any % main gun dmg booster = 100% kill efficiency
pulsar zodiac
MG💪
fierce laurel
oh god someone show me the new enemies
balmy vale
so there are 2 new enemies?
harsh pelican
dmr + any % main gun dmg booster = 100% kill efficiency
got any screenshots of the snatcher to share?
soft kraken
Was focused on survival
when I can play later
ill send some in media and fan art (spoiler tagged ofc)
open inlet
das gud i want to c
tribal fossil
is b2 glitched?
to go to zone 83 its needed a cell, but cell is spawning in 84
'-'
wise swallow
@atomic escarp where u stay in def part ?
warm coral
Hey all! What do you guys think about the respawn system of the sleepers?
sick hornet
i think it was a good idea, just implemented horribly
warm coral
Exactly
sick hornet
its more tedious than difficult
grand pollen
@warm coral Ive actually seen couple of fckers spawing in front of me
valid light
Is A2 overload glitched?
grand pollen
what next? scouts gonna respawn?
sick hornet
nope
grand pollen
with doubled amount?
warm coral
Sudden heart attack ohh yeah
sick hornet
to my knowledge only strikers and shooters respawn