gtfo-spoiler-chat

[latent aspen]

nah jk but the big chargers, where do they first start at? same place the regular ones start or next section down?

[errant vigil]

oh big chargers used to be one surges

[atomic escarp]

Then extension happened

[errant vigil]

but now one of the only places they are sleeping is C3 overload

[atomic escarp]

D2 Extreme

[errant vigil]

D2 extreme and e1 main

[latent aspen]

theyre one of the scarier ones tbh

cause how heavy the damage is if you mess up

plus they just look scarier overall

built

different

[errant vigil]

not if hel revo or auto pistol

just blind fire at them

[atomic escarp]

Or moke chod

[errant vigil]

they will stagger

[clear idol]

does hel revo do full damage to them due to over penetration?

[latent aspen]

hmm thats fair

[errant vigil]

yea most specials will stager

(crys in revolver)

[atomic escarp]

No. its just at a higher base damage than most guns

[clear idol]

mm icic ty

[modest aspen]

Hel has higher base damage than DMR iirc so although your shots to kill enemies is same like DMR it has less range and it's a bit apparent how much damage falloff affects it

But, Hel Revolver might be the only Primary Gun that can kill scout if shot at Occiput(Facing Backside Headshot)

[mortal granite]

you need 2 shot to kill scout

[modest aspen]

Well nevermind what i've said then

[mortal granite]

if anyone wanna debate about it, i got a clip of it

with c foam also

🙂

dmr are like

The limit to all primary weapon can reach

[atomic escarp]

Datamined UwU ||DMR has 6.6 damage with 1.0 precision, Hel revo has 8 damage with 0.74 precision||

[mortal granite]

||Hel revo when head shot = 5.92 damage||

[atomic escarp]

Point is Hel revo has higher base damage

[mortal granite]

but you still need to shoot striker 2 shots to kill it

just like DMR

[pliant shard]

But one penetrates doing full damage through 5 enemies one doesn’t

[mortal granite]

but you still need 2 bullets

[nocturne flax]

One its balance the other one isnt

[nocturne flax]

Cant wait for metal build or leave the lobby

"dO YoU Hav3 tHe BooSterS?!?!"

[solemn wigeon]

Dodge build :^)

[nocturne flax]

grinder build

[solemn wigeon]

Tracker build with heatseeking rounds

Autotyping when

[clear idol]

does cfoam dissapear off doors after time?

[solemn wigeon]

No

[clear idol]

just making sure ty

[solemn wigeon]

Cocoons are the new meat to my dinner while the spitters are the drink

[novel wasp]

gotta learn to code sometime

[atomic escarp]

Better than collecting stuff

[solemn wigeon]

True

Gtfo? Adding new levels? Unheard of

[atomic escarp]

Less go

[solemn wigeon]

Stamina finally?

[atomic escarp]

What about Dabooster?

[rancid basalt]

idk how i feel about boosters but i trust the devs to make cool thigns

also it's ign , known for their stalwart accuracy

might not be quite as they described

[vapid moon]

what ethnicity is purple

[atomic escarp]

Yes

[rancid basalt]

yeah but what was in the article was quite vague

[pseudo mantle]

I wouldn't be shocked if that was intentional.

"Boosting" sounds so silly as a concept but I believe in their ability to make it dope.

[clear idol]

does b2 have an infinite error alarm on extreme difficulty?

[devout river]

Yes

[fierce laurel]

yo devs what are the wall sack things

[granite scarab]

[forest horizon]

the worst thing ever

[granite scarab]

[desert shell]

burst rifle is in the trailer too

[novel wasp]

It's probably a good rifle for chest tapping plebs like me.

[desert shell]

mark my words

I'll shoot a cocoon and see what it do

[queen storm]

There's going to be a neonate?

[desert shell]

oh no not again

[queen storm]

so plug into weird machine and error starts or stops

[desert shell]

so like R2E1?

[queen storm]

What about Hel Rifle

or hel gun

[desert shell]

where's burst rifle

bishop is holding it when the apex door is opening

[novel wasp]

It's an AN94

Instant double tap

[calm vessel]

👁️👁️

I see talk about best weapon

BR

[desert shell]

Burst rifle looks good

but I miss bullpup

[queen storm]

Burst rifle was fun to use

[calm vessel]

Bull pup sounded like styrofoam being rubbed together

[dreamy bramble]

sorry wait where is the burst rifle

if br and r1 mg are both coming back in the same rundown then r5 is already looking pretty nice

[sick hornet]

doesnt exist, never has

most likely changes:

hel rev gone
burst cannon gone/heavy nerf
sniper sentry gone/nerf
dmr buff in some way, moved to special
double tap of course
r1 mg back, higher ROF
burst rifle replacing heavy ar

[atomic escarp]

Imagine, they put the DMR in the special slot to give it 2 pierce

||Which means it pierces 1 enemy||

[desert shell]

so if DMR is in special

Revolver is gonna go in primary

[dreamy bramble]

?

or they both exist in special

[queen storm]

You think it will 1 shot

?

[dreamy bramble]

doubt it tbh

[desert shell]

I mean

[dreamy bramble]

12 mag one shotting would be actually busted

[queen storm]

It can probably pierce now

[dreamy bramble]

that's more likely

[desert shell]

if DMR is a 1 shot Revo should go to primary

[dreamy bramble]

if dmr is a one shot revolver may as well be deleted

[queen storm]

double the ammo and faster rof

[desert shell]

Move it to primary would be better tbh

[dreamy bramble]

why would you use any primary besides revo in that case

[errant vigil]

revo becomes redundant the second dmr one shots to head

[dreamy bramble]

^

probably pierce or some odd utility to the dmr to justify it moving slots

[errant vigil]

primaries probably won't every one shot to head as well

ever*

[queen storm]

maybe really high stagger

[desert shell]

maybe nerf revolver bodyshot damage?

[dreamy bramble]

still 6 kills per mag

it's not hard to hit heads

[desert shell]

well

maybe buff the DMR stagger

[errant vigil]

the problem right now with revo is that it has too much ammo

[queen storm]

DMR becomes a Giant stagger weapon

how much ammo does revo have?

[errant vigil]

57 max

20 per refill

[desert shell]

nerf reload speed?

[errant vigil]

maybe idk

[dreamy bramble]

i just don't think you can ever have a primary that can one shot kill

a full team of them would clear waves without ever having to reload anyway

you would have to nerf magazine capacity, total reserves and range to balance it

and even then it would still be extremely strong

[errant vigil]

it's already pretty strong if you can aim now

[desert shell]

make it auto and require 2 shot to kill?

[queen storm]

Auto revolver?

[dreamy bramble]

hel revo - hel basically?

[desert shell]

Hel isn't auto?

[dreamy bramble]

most people would just tap shoot it

[desert shell]

or make a burst revolver?

[queen storm]

10cc autorevolver

that would just be a new revolver

[desert shell]

10 chambers revolver

[queen storm]

you have 10 shots

full pierce

high damage

high stagger

and full auto

[errant vigil]

monkaGIGA

[modest aspen]

Kek a Developer Meme Revolver?

[dreamy bramble]

you start with 10 shots and thats all you get for the whole expedition

it doesn't take ammo packs

[queen storm]

nah

ammopacks

give you 1 bullet

[modest aspen]

Outstanding

[queen storm]

it also deletes your other weapons

only 10cc revolver

nothing else

[modest aspen]

so you can have 4 10 Chamber Revolvers???

[desert shell]

unlimited piercing and no recoil

[lucid moon]

https://www.ign.com/articles/gtfos-next-big-update-rundown-5-aka-rebirth-revealed-and-detailed

"Boosts are new to GTFO; they're rewards earned in-game that will offer temporary buffs to skills, allowing for things like better weapon handling (which we take to mean less recoil when firing) and speedier terminal hacking."

Progression POG

[indigo lantern]

more like Call of Duty perks

wait lemme read it

I mean, sooner or later we'll arrive at "a class system"

[queen storm]

I thought the devs were trying to avoid that

[indigo lantern]

Originally they didn't want anyhting like that, every character was supposted to be equal, except for the weapons and tools they take

that was everyone has a role

the sniper takes out the scout

the burst cannon takes out the large striker

motion scanner is utility/support, so it CFOAM

mines are good for taking out specials, when you place them high enough only big ones are tall enough to detonate them, so thats a "pick" tool

But I mean, minor boosts?

Like quicker revive, better recoil, faster melee charge? perhaps +20 health? fuck if i know

we'll see what kinds of boosts are there

[queen storm]

I really hope they aren't perks like 0.2 faster movement speed

[dreamy bramble]

i think they want to avoid a specific class system where you’re locked into a role, but they’re fine with adding some small buffs to fine tune your play style

[indigo lantern]

lol, yeah

Oh oh, if they finally add a proper Stamina system, there may just be quicker refresh or more stamina

I mean if they introduced light RPG elements, I wouldn't mind that much

[queen storm]

Would be nice to have perks which also give you some sort of setback

[indigo lantern]

Yes, sidegrading is also an option

[queen storm]

and make them more of sidegrades

[indigo lantern]

I want the weapon modification system to have something like that

Want a better flashlight? Worse aimdownsight transition speed, or the like

Bigger magazine, slower reload. Smaller magazine, more total ammo

[slow maple]

yeah that would be good

[indigo lantern]

Also I'd love a point system like in Insurgency

[slow maple]

that would also be good

[queen storm]

what does insugrency do?

[hoary garden]

set number of points.
different guns, attatchments, consumables cost points

[slow maple]

havent played it in a while

[indigo lantern]

You start out with a "naked" gun, you get 10 points to spend, medium flashlight costs 2 points, longrange flashlight costs 3, ironsights cost 0, but a proper holo costs 2

Better stock for recoil? Higher magazine?

[slow maple]

but where would yu spend points?

[indigo lantern]

On your weapon

[hoary garden]

spend points on armour in gtfo

[slow maple]

where tho? like a terminal or something

[hoary garden]

[indigo lantern]

Before the match starts

[slow maple]

nice

[queen storm]

GTFO might have more of a progression system

[indigo lantern]

In the menu, if they ever introduce an inventory

We already know that prisoners who behave and successfully accomplish their tasks, the Warden rewards them with stuff, or they can keep whatever they bring up with themselves, this is info from 2018

It would be interesting to be able to grab materials from the complex and take them with you for crafting after you finish a round

[novel wasp]

Extra skittles ration for the week on a successful dive.

[indigo lantern]

There are all things that would give GTFO more replayability

[queen storm]

maybe they'll add the boosts or whatever you need to get the boosts behind layered difficulty

[novel wasp]

Wouldn't that further divide the gods from the scrubs?

[indigo lantern]

It would be interesting if you could reclaim a new "weapon frame" from an Extreme/Overload section of a map

which then you can start to customize between missions

[still geyser]

that would be cool

[mortal granite]

oh well, at least we're going to have "build" video

"Hello, i'm captain alpha, and this is my Kill them all build with this bla bla bla gun and with these boost with the gun you will do bla bla bla"

more creativity

[still geyser]

😄

[desert shell]

Gunsmith like customizing guns?

[errant vigil]

coom boost me use coom gun faster

[novel wasp]

Skeet skeet skeet

[kindred mortar]

During the development of r2, the devs said that they were working on the "FRANKINSTEIN" system, which would allow changing each weapon and improving some indicators at the expense of others

But this will not be 100% in r5

For as you can understand from the IGN post in the game there will be a progression of skills

[indigo lantern]

I know

i'm expecting weapon building/customizaton for 1.0

Or R6 at earliest

[kindred mortar]

I think R6 will be release, so most likely they will add weapon building/customizaton

I bet on November-December

[errant vigil]

each rundown is typically a new mechanic to the game that gets redone on later rundowns i would assume

[novel wasp]

I hope weapon customization stops and starts with gold tiger stripe paint.

[indigo lantern]

Modding would be cool, cosmetics not so much

All tho they were planning for it

I remember they originally said that if the game didn't perform too well they would put in cosmetic only DLC

But the game did perform well, hell they partnered up with Tencent, you guys noticed how R4 Ext only had new content and not the usual recycled stuff?

[novel wasp]

I dislike cosmetics dlc, reminds me too much of horse armor

[indigo lantern]

R5 is titled "Rebirth", yeah rebirth it is when they can finally afford to make content not recycle it

[kindred mortar]

Devs in general begin to work on several rundows at once and then, at their own discretion, choose what needs to be completed earlier

[novel wasp]

Hopefully it is a rebirth and not an afterbirth

[subtle mirage]

interested to see what comes out thursday since there havent been any official patch notes

[indigo lantern]

I have a lot of respect for developers who do not put cosmetics DLC or microtransactions in their game, if there are cosmetics everyone should be able to earn them without having to pay

[subtle mirage]

honestly dont know why they dont release patch notes lol

[indigo lantern]

Also, it's kinda funny how I just learned about the "boosts" because of the article

[subtle mirage]

its either to increase hype, or to slow backlash over controversial changes

[novel wasp]

Where is the surprise when you can read the notes

[subtle mirage]

well be vague about the new enemy thats gona fuck you to death, but lets see some concrete details about mechanical changes or whatever

[novel wasp]

It's only a day away

[subtle mirage]

true and im hype, but its been 3 weeks since the announce

[novel wasp]

Notes will probably drop with the patch

[turbid cliff]

They release the patch notes with the update so you have something to read and hype while downloading

[novel wasp]

Some studios like to do that.

[kindred mortar]

Yes it was cool

[indigo lantern]

Now only steam achievements remain

Which I'm unsure how they'll handle

SInce they can't make anything mission/rundown related

[kindred mortar]

Achievements, I think they will hold up to version 1.0 of the game

[indigo lantern]

And they hopefully won't just add "revive X times" or "kill X enemies"

[mortal granite]

steam achievement feel like a chore

[indigo lantern]

If they are done right, they aren't

[mortal granite]

why would we need that

[indigo lantern]

Actually unique and challenging achievements, that aren't filler can be quite fun to complete

[desert shell]

kill 2 strikers with a single hammer swing

[kindred mortar]

2 ez

[indigo lantern]

Finish a mission where noone dies

[mortal granite]

well

finish a mission where no one is decease

that just A level

[indigo lantern]

finish a mission with a blindfold

[desert shell]

Finish a mission and you are the last one alive

[novel wasp]

Cheevos in general are a chore.

[kindred mortar]

Finish the mission without using any resources

[indigo lantern]

find and ejact the imposter

[mortal granite]

idk what do you mean "done right"

when you didn't give me anything that's not a chore

[subtle mirage]

teamkill your friends at the extract

[indigo lantern]

@mortal granite I didn't give you anything specific

it's not my job

it's theirs

and they can make achievements interesting

[mortal granite]

and i was saying

[indigo lantern]

you'll have to determine for yourself

[mortal granite]

i don't think they should add in steam achievement

[indigo lantern]

Well, why not?

[mortal granite]

above

[subtle mirage]

no reason not to

[indigo lantern]

My only objection would be that the Rundown system doesn't allow for it, or at least in an odrinary way

[novel wasp]

No reason to either.

[subtle mirage]

"complete a rundown"

"kill 500 strikers"

[indigo lantern]

those are filler

[mortal granite]

a chore

[novel wasp]

Achievement unlocked, unlocked an achievement.

[subtle mirage]

youll get them just by playing anyway. who cares

[mortal granite]

and you can do it while standing in spawn

[mortal granite]

that's right

who cares about achievement

[novel wasp]

If no one cares, why bother?

[turbid cliff]

Stats tracking

[indigo lantern]

Well, whether you like them or not they are coming

I just hope they make them interesting

[turbid cliff]

I want to know how much of what I've done

[subtle mirage]

i dont understand the cheevo addicts really. you get the easy ones naturally by playing, and if youre really into the game its just a self-challenge

[unborn sorrel]

Kill 500 sleepers is a lame achievement, but stuff like 'complete a prisoner efficiency run with no downs' or 'complete a level within X' or 'Kill a ||Mother/Tank|| within X' would be alright

not that I really care for achieves anyway

[novel wasp]

I don't care about achievements period. I think they are just a time waster, at best.

[subtle mirage]

went back and got the ghost achievements on dishonored because i loved the game. not cause i had that burning desire to see 100% on the achievement bar

[mortal granite]

there are a thing call

SAM

[subtle mirage]

guess it hits different for others

[unborn sorrel]

yeah I think achievements that make you play the game slightly differently can be pretty fun

but achievements that are just 'get 100% of the stuff' is so boring

[mortal granite]

again

it become a chore

or you just play the game

[novel wasp]

I think it only appeals to collection addicts.

[subtle mirage]

well then fuck it! lol

kill 10 million strikers, just say fuck it

that ones bullshit and i aint doin it lol

[mortal granite]

just wait for the first person to complete it

and then use SAM

easy

nobody gonna bother checking you

the achievement felt like 1 of the ranking in LOL

i'm "diamond" baby

some people may even use achievement as "rank" too you know

"i finished this really hard achievement therefor i'm better than you in any giving way"

[novel wasp]

I like those people, they filter themselves.

[subtle mirage]

ah those people are assholes anyway

let em fight lol

[turbid cliff]

Like there needs to be anything more to brag about

[subtle mirage]

games hard as piss already

[mortal granite]

we literally saw people use

"i played in Alpha hence i'm better than you"

[turbid cliff]

As i said to me achievements are more just stats tracking. I won't go out of my way to get any, I'll just look at them in retrospect to see what I've done

[novel wasp]

I'm just here because sleeper hugs are all the hugs I get.

[turbid cliff]

Only factor for that is whether the achievement gives something worthwhile to know/remember

[subtle mirage]

i made a joke on the reddit about hammer speedrunners and this guy jumped straight up my ass about how i was just mad he was better than me

[novel wasp]

I just wanna see how many times I can get downed in a single run before my team just leaves me there to die.

[subtle mirage]

most toxic motherfucker ive seen in weeks. bad for the community

[novel wasp]

Reddit is full of shitters

[dreamy bramble]

pretty much all communities outside of discord are toxic as hell

steam forums are even worse

[mortal granite]

nobody go to steam forum

[novel wasp]

I wonder if gamefaqs is shit

[mortal granite]

so those peoples are stuck there

[turbid cliff]

The irony in trashtalking other communities though

[subtle mirage]

well it really does feel like this is the place to be, if you actually want to play this game

and succeed at any level

reddit is toxic, steam forums are proly full of buyers-remorsers

the reddit isnt toxic i guess, but its pretty dead for having 15k subs

just people posting their 3 hours long YT vids of clearing D2 or whatever. i hoped for memes

[cyan kiln]

Yeah mostly twitch stream and YouTube video promotion with 4 views

[haughty plank]

When do they drop the patchnotes?

[kindred mortar]

With the release of r5 in 24 hours 49 minutes I suppose

[haughty plank]

thanks for the accurate info, but for other games they often release the notes the day before

So I was wondering how they handled it with the past rundowns^^

[atomic escarp]

I think they put out patch notes after the update

[turbid cliff]

You could always just check the patch notes channel and align the dates

[mossy yoke]

and @haughty plank we do them a few minutes before the release typically.

[mellow creek]

i hope the ballsack hanging on the ceiling are actually active

will be pretty disappointed if they are just backdrops haha

[violet elk]

i am sweating about how i made a suggestion months ago saying there should be baby striker sacks that hatch if you wake up a room (& it got a ton of upvotes)... simultaneously wanting it to be implemented but also not 😭

[novel wasp]

careful what you wish for

[fallen elm]

so can i shoot the sack and have like 5 babies jump out 😛

tht would be a funny surprise

[violet elk]

i love suffering!

[grizzled osprey]

Can't wait to see the rundown 5

[burnt goblet]

I'm itching man, I can't wait to see R5 but I won't be able to play it until I get home

[grizzled osprey]

Maybe I'll hear the spoil a bit

[solemn wigeon]

Huy if you mute the server in its entirety you can avoid the spoilers

only 7 hours 56 minutes wat

away

[grizzled osprey]

Nah

[candid surge]

Leave the server and come back once you've finished the rundown

[grizzled osprey]

I don't really care 'bout that

😋 😋 😋

I don't really trust the spoiler till I played them🤣

[solemn wigeon]

fair

[burnt goblet]

But unfortunate that Its releasing on a Thursday, if it released on a Wednesday it would of been way better for me. It's online school for Wednesdays where I am, so It would of been perfect for me

[grizzled osprey]

Me too😢

[atomic escarp]

🥵

[solemn wigeon]

Same

[robust marsh]

5 hours ppl get ready for the drop

[desert shell]

Yes sir

[potent bough]

hell yeah

[desert shell]

4 hours 58 mins

[vapid moon]

playing one final r4 level

just to say goodbye

and now i remember

r4 hurts

goodnight boys, see you in r5 B)

[kindred mortar]

in r4://ext//ext*

[vapid moon]

r4^2

[echo vine]

imo its better a game updates on thursday and bugs with release get patched so everyone can play on the weekend seamlessly imo

[sterile isle]

1 more hour 👀

[west crow]

Are my timezones out of whack? Isn't 1pm cet 6am cst?

[solemn wigeon]

Ya

[west crow]

Game announcement said release was 1pm cet

My dissapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[atomic escarp]

Funny how timezones work

[west crow]

I'm assuming they just got the time wrong

[sterile isle]

Could be typo

[west crow]

Quirky devs

[solemn wigeon]

Did you forget about daylight savings?

Because its still 1pm cet for me to bst

[echo vine]

I hate daylight savings lol

[solemn wigeon]

Lol

Fucks with everything

[dreamy bramble]

just move to the equator so you don't have to deal with it

easy

[echo vine]

It makes zero sense. Its something grandfathered in from a time where it was useful and now it serves no purpose other than to screw sleep schedules lol

I could not sleep, felt like a kid at christmas

[solemn wigeon]

I got a few hours of sleep but that's because I'm awake at night for a long time usually

[echo vine]

I got some sleep, but I shot up and awake at 4am like fuck I still have to wait 3 more hours

[solemn wigeon]

Kek

[calm coral]

35 minutes

hype

[robust marsh]

26 min get the prisoners ready for cryo drop (yes its a made up name for droping in the levels)

[terse relic]

where r5

[lyric narwhal]

we still got 15 minutes

[terse relic]

wasnt it supposed to come out 15 mins ago?

oh

time zone screwing me out here

[echo vine]

Warning: Hype level:

[desert shell]

overload

[calm coral]

IT IS TIME

[woeful fable]

//extended//extended

[echo vine]

UPDATE WHEN

If I had to guess might be waiting for people to get out of their games.

[pulsar zodiac]

finally BC gone

[desert shell]

is the update here?

[quiet stone]

ONLY 8 MAPS REEEEEEEEE

Only 1 D REEEEEEEE

[feral salmon]

Can I get a pic of the new rundown? At school

[stable aurora]

these boosters are wack

[feral salmon]

Ah, thanks

[pulsar zodiac]

hacking tool increase scan speed!!!

it became true

[willow light]

Where can we see the progression?

[mellow creek]

anyone figured out what does ||artifact|| do ?

hahah

[eternal current]

Look into Intel

[grizzled osprey]

Patrolling enemy????

[terse relic]

don't click on drop boosters

it doesn;t unequip, it deletes your boosters

[candid dragon]

Drop booster?

[atomic escarp]

can anyone comfirm thjis new rundown is only 20days??

it says on steam we only have 20days for this runedown

The Warden is preparing your new Work Orders – Prisoners. You have 20 days left to complete the current Rundown.

Good luck.

[candid dragon]

Probably will be ext in 20

[vestal mountain]

He was referring to the steam post made on april 10

[atomic escarp]

steam wasnt updates yet on news, found the issue

[vestal mountain]

which was at that time was referencing to Rundown 4 and having 20 days to finish that before 5 drops

[atomic escarp]

i was like omg i got to no life runedown 5 to comeplete it nlol

Its very un-smg of them to have 25 shots per mag on the heavy smg

[limpid cargo]

I mean, it’s quite heavy

[atomic escarp]

And I actually thought the MG would be a more precision based weapon than what it is currently

[twilit remnant]

Is the new machine gun

The OG r1

But faster rof

[mellow creek]

feels like sleepers will respawn

l0l0l0l

[craggy flame]

😱

Like every A1 ever

[atomic escarp]

I found a bug

Can't use tool on bio

[craggy flame]

Smh, they took that away xD

[atomic escarp]

@mossy yoke Why can I not refill my bio

[mossy yoke]

sorry, new feature

[craggy flame]

It got nerfed

[stable aurora]

the sleepers respawning is living hell

[heady kelp]

is anyone get the sleepers respawning in A1?

[stable aurora]

yeah

[heady kelp]

so dog

[stable aurora]

its the ceiling ball sacks

rooms with ball sacks respawn enemies I think

[pulsar zodiac]

D1 reactor

[heady kelp]

can you kill the sacks

[stable aurora]

I tried shooting one

didnt do anything

[heady kelp]

ive hit one and same thing

[stable aurora]

these artifacts are actually kinda cool

[burnt goblet]

Can't play until I get home RIP

[pulsar zodiac]

cant foam them as well

[stable aurora]

anyone tried a2 xtreme yet

I hear a blood door in it

oh shit nvm the blood doors in high

they really rampin up stuff for newer players

scout in a1 too

[heady kelp]

just kiled it

[mellow creek]

wtf guys

the sleepers will respawn

[pulsar zodiac]

teach

[stable aurora]

yeah lmao

[craggy flame]

Tbf only R4A1 main did not have a scout so it is nothing new

[mellow creek]

oh yeah

rebirth

l0000000000l

[stable aurora]

jesus christ I thought a2 was a reactor

just the old b1 reactor room

[pulsar zodiac]

oh D1 is reactor btw

[heady kelp]

@pulsar zodiac its easy

[stable aurora]

yay

[heady kelp]

use flash light to make them do there thing

then walk in as they get back up

full hammer hit to the head

[stable aurora]

anyone seen the tentacle boy yet

and by tentacle boy I dont mean scout

[mellow creek]

ohyeah

they only respawn where there are the thingy on the ceilings

[stable aurora]

these artifacts are fuckin everywhere

[mellow creek]

grindfest

[hushed moon]

yeah so what do those ballsacks do?

they respawn sleepers or something?

[stable aurora]

respawn enemies

[hushed moon]

is it like a 1 time respawn per sack

[stable aurora]

well

anyone know what to do for a2 extreme

[reef moat]

I wonder what is an actual definition for a "ballsack"

[pulsar zodiac]

thats what we are doing

[stable aurora]

the only door here is in lockdown

yeah theres nowhere to go in a2 extreme

ahhh I found it

theres a terminal that u gotta put shit in

[hidden cipher]

So, the artifacts - Probably been asked already but haven't seen it and I probably can't test it with my friends any time soon - does the pickup of artifacts count for everyone or just the one picking them up?

[stable aurora]

oh my god

a2 is fucking terrifying

you have to reroute power

and the entire fucking place goes pitch black

wow thats all a2 extreme is

[toxic chasm]

That sounds fun

[stable aurora]

just making it pitch black

no alarms

[mossy yoke]

They count for the entire team!

[odd barn]

does the same thing apply if a friend join midway?

[reef moat]

Okay so, when you are waking up the room after security scan seems like room that is about 2 rooms behind you is respawned

[mossy yoke]

Yes jelli. we don't want this to be a "only for me"

[odd barn]

awesome 🙂

[pulsar zodiac]

I like this A2 extreme already

[stable aurora]

yeah its super cool

cant see shit

[mellow creek]

feels like the ballsack increases overtime too

[stable aurora]

a2 extreme feels like d2 overload lmao

[steady lotus]

||THEY RESPAWNEDDDDD||

[hidden cipher]

That's great to hear, thanks 🙂

[smoky pier]

i need a more clear explaination. r boosters similar to perks but with limited uses?

[stable aurora]

found a bug

[atomic escarp]

Yes.

[stable aurora]

when you query the hisec in a2 high it says (all item room)

instead of zone 20 which is where it was

[mellow creek]

damnn we gona have artifact flexer

xD

[unique forum]

Does anybody knows what the heat system is?

[stable aurora]

I think its how common artifacts are in the level

[honest mortar]

Heat system looks like the chance % for the artifacts.

[unique forum]

Make sense cause it went down after i played the level

[stable aurora]

WTF

[craggy flame]

Have you gotten anything from the artifacts?

[stable aurora]

theres hybrids in a2 high

this shit is wack

wow this respawning thing sucks

I do a blood door kill the enemies and I come back to the entire room filled again

Same

Okay heads up failing alarm locks is bad now

I woke up an entire room with one fail

[neon meadow]

aye why do they respawn?

is it just bcs of the level or something we didnt do or?

[fading flame]

ok

[burnt goblet]

From what I hear, sounds like the enemy respawns might need to be tweaked

[light niche]

What's an artifact?

[atomic escarp]

Booster fuel basically

From what I understand at least

[light niche]

Well, what's a booster lol, I thought they'd be like the red and yellow syringes

[stable aurora]

a2s got an overload

[atomic escarp]

Just buffs

[light niche]

A2r4 had an overload

[craggy flame]

They are more an item you can use to get buffs

[naive hinge]

they're literally just consumable perks

[atomic escarp]

Like fog repeller effectiveness, heal effectiveness, less revive time

[light niche]

Interesting, I'll have to get my friends to play tonight with me lol

I mean I know they will, our asses have been waiting for this for a while lol

[pulsar zodiac]

is overload missing from A2

[light niche]

Feels bad that I won't get to play right away

[burnt goblet]

Literally same

[pulsar zodiac]

there is no second bulkhead DC

for overload

[burnt goblet]

I have to wait 7 hours

[stable aurora]

Nah there is one @pulsar zodiac

Havent found dc but I found a door with overload symbol

[mellow creek]

its in the zone that got unlocked

[pulsar zodiac]

there is no door in 302 when I list it

only hdd terminal and locker

[stable aurora]

weird

[pulsar zodiac]

and we cant get in there because we only have 2 bulkhead key

[mellow creek]

ooooo thers a funny artifact

increase tracked damage

from bioscan

hahaah

[stable aurora]

oh my lord

theres a artifact where you have to be near glowsticks

for it to activate

[atomic escarp]

I have the most useful artifact, and a barely usable one

[pulsar zodiac]

two tap rifle feels good

[stable aurora]

agreed

[atomic escarp]

Its DMR but burst : ^ )

[pulsar zodiac]

yes

[stable aurora]

oh shit

[atomic escarp]

Nice

[hexed vapor]

Do artifacts multiply for wins?

Or same for win and loss?

[atomic escarp]

Holy fuck

You're back

[rigid charm]

guys y r sleepers respawning for me...

[mellow creek]

yeah

its the theme

[rigid charm]

is it time based?

or must a condition be triggered in order for them to respawn

[normal rampart]

You don't need a key for overload actually, so no worries it's still there

[pulsar zodiac]

oh~~

[willow light]

Has anyone seen where we can locate cosmetics or where there is any progression bar/system?

[craggy flame]

Nope

[mossy yoke]

Progression isn't in this update, but the Boosters laid a lot of groundwork towards what is needed for progression and cosmetics

[violet bridge]

Is it normal ||for monsters to spawn again when you run back to already cleared rooms?||

[modest aspen]

I see the problem

@violet bridge No, they don't respawn, with exceptions of wave alarms

[violet bridge]

well they do

[west crow]

the cocoons on the walls indicate respawns

[violet bridge]

ooooooooooooh

[modest aspen]

Oh

Damn

Kek

[west crow]

I'm really glad they changed stealth to be more tedious

it's the best part of gtfo ya know

[mortal hearth]

They changed the stealth?

[west crow]

respawning gimmick

[modest aspen]

Cocoons now respawn enemies?

[west crow]

rooms with them, yes

[modest aspen]

Can be break em before they do

[mortal hearth]

Respawning wut?

[west crow]

no you can't break them

[mortal hearth]

Respawning enemies?

bruh

[modest aspen]

Damn

[mortal hearth]

Why don't they just remove the difficulty levels

so people can't play on easy mode

Then remove the respawn shit

Less work more simple

[waxen zealot]

So are the rooms just permanently kept restocked or what

[west crow]

after you get a certain number of rooms away

[mortal hearth]

That makes no sense

[west crow]

enemies will respawn

[mortal hearth]

Why don't they just remove easy mode

[violet bridge]

was a nice suprise running away from enemies and panic and boom

[mortal hearth]

And keep the game as it use to be

[calm vessel]

?what is that supposed to mean?

Games been getting harder every rundown

[west crow]

I don't believe scouts respawn

I haven't noticed yet

[calm vessel]

It’s just that players get better

Players got better

[sacred slate]

No, it was definitely easier

[craggy flame]

Well it was. We had 3 As and 2 Bs 1 C and 1D. Ofc, it was easier

in that regard

[outer beacon]

how to chat with spoil arlam ? i have some question

[pliant shard]

You can chat in here

[calm vessel]

It’s spoiler chat

[pliant shard]

It’s spoiler chat

[outer beacon]

oh

[waxen zealot]

Type out your message, highlight it, then hit the eye icon. Or just use || at the start and end of your message.

[modest aspen]

Or || between |

[outer beacon]

is it normal for | sleep spawn again in zone we go pass , it happen on a1 and a2 , b2 don't have it |

[pliant shard]

Yes

Check the a2 interrupted communications

[outer beacon]

and it true , r3 is more easy than r2

[honest mortar]

So you dont keep artifacts if you retire from a lobby.

Heat still goes down though.

[lone violet]

Question

What are these Boosters?

[pulsar zodiac]

C2 seems interesting

[lone violet]

And what do they do

[pulsar zodiac]

just looking at the comm

[lone violet]

Yes and what do they do?

[mellow creek]

anyone know which audio log to read

in A2

thers like 100000000000 files

[pulsar zodiac]

is C2 the one we been looking for

[modest aspen]

Since all this Artifact boosters are all new, we know a few things.
We need to gather them to actually use them
It's temporary, but how long is this temporary effect(1 Expedtion?)?

Can't post pics in anywhere

expect media and images

[lone violet]

Okey and what effects do they give

[outer beacon]

if you use it , you lose it

[lone violet]

Health? Ammo?

[modest aspen]

Oh no

[lone violet]

What the fuck

[modest aspen]

Movespeed

Bruh

[outer beacon]

scan speed :v

[modest aspen]

Kek

[lone violet]

What Is this bullshit

[modest aspen]

Imagine Movespeed boosts

That's so meta af

[outer beacon]

so if we have e1 again and it hard

we go to a1 farm artifica

then go back e1

:v

right

[mossy yoke]

retiring an expedition should still reward artifact progress, hence the heat going down. If you remember what the booster progress amount was (0.56) for example when you last retired, then if you drop down again it should say that same amount as it should pick where you left off

[lone violet]

There's literally no point In having them at all

Beyond easing the game

[outer beacon]

help new player ?

[modest aspen]

Oh looking at the Artifact boosters there's like various multi effects per booster and can carry alot before using

[lone violet]

And we already got A levels and the layered difficulty to balance out the new player experience

[modest aspen]

Also seems like there's negative effects with positive for some

[honest mortar]

Awesome! Thanks Doc. 😛 Was doing some solo hunting until I can jump in later.

[lone violet]

Undermanned? It's a 4 man co op shooter

And If you are new, well Invest time to get better, like everyone else does

Being bad at shooters Is not a excuse. This Is just another one of those attempts to 'Make the game more accessible' to a larger crowd but

Then have a pikachu face

Why the core experience became lame as fuck

And no one finds It original and unique anymore.

[modest aspen]

looks like you can equip up to3 boosters

[outer beacon]

agree

[lone violet]

Maybe because a lame and easy as fuck co game Is already out there? Done who know's how many times before.

[outer beacon]

if it too easy then there is no point to play anymore

[lone violet]

Best part? I am now betting 50% that these will become MTX later

[void ravine]

All item zone lmao

[twilit remnant]

Time to wait for r5 ext

[buoyant gazelle]

Y'all are acting kinda toxic ngl

[modest aspen]

Monkas Cursed

[plucky summit]

A2 overload pretty fun

[robust marsh]

ys

[lone violet]

If criticism Is toxicity then yes

This Is toxic

[buoyant gazelle]

Amazing 10C, you just know how to rape your own bloody concept
@lone violet

[craggy flame]

You can criticise but do it in a mature way and not like a whining child....

[robust marsh]

god dam it can't we just enjoy the damn game

[rocky marsh]

howd you do it?

we cant find a dc for overload

[sterile isle]

opens when you pick up cargo

[lone violet]

Or preferably, not say anything at all right? Gatekeep the game while we are at It.

[rocky marsh]

oh nvm

GG that mother LOL

[waxen zealot]

Your entire argument here is gatekeeping based on difficulty.

[craggy flame]

Like I said if you behave in a mature way you get the respect you want, but tbh why should I respect someones opinions, who uses fuck, rape, bloody....

[lone violet]

Rather based on the premise of everything the game and the Devs have said and claimed so far.

Forgive me If I then have some expectations related to that.

[calm vessel]

they still want their base to grow, that's why low levels are easier than later ones and the use of bulkheads :^)

[lone violet]

Can't wait for the MTX Boosters anyway.

[static steeple]

Aw man what's going on in here

[waxen zealot]

Right, and part of that premise is the ever-changing nature of the game, as is explicitly featured in the Rundown system.

[static steeple]

There's not gonna be mtx, relax

[lone violet]

Those are completely different game mechanics and up right easing the game as a whole which is what Artifacts do

[calm vessel]

mtx is new graphics card?

[craggy flame]

Same as in gtfo-chat -_- People havent even played through D1

[static steeple]

And yes could we please not use awful verbage that references sexual assault and such

I don't wanna have to ask again

[calm vessel]

well you can play without artifacts? no ones telling you too :^)

[lone violet]

Wow, so original of a comment

Much praise

[calm vessel]

it's not praise

[buoyant gazelle]

Imagine backtalking the fisherman himself

[shrewd flume]

Lower the skill floor doesnt mean that the skill ceiling is lower.

[waxen zealot]

They're a moderator and asking people not to use language like that is explicitly part of their role here.

[lone violet]

The skill ceiling and skill floor have a relation to one another, you can't have a massive gap between one another In a level design like GTFOs

[heady kelp]

why are people mad that is hard

thats the fun of it

[calm vessel]

hes mad its easy or something

[craggy flame]

I think it is because of the internet...

[heady kelp]

me and a mate 2 man it

[light niche]

Ye I can see why if the artifacts are just straight up boosts

[heady kelp]

a1/2 done

[light niche]

I can get it if it had tradeoffs

[heady kelp]

its all about team work

[lone violet]

They essentially are, and the actual Issue Is

It's a Pandora's box now

You can really push them as far as you want

It can start small, but end up becoming a major pillar

[craggy flame]

Like just wait until we have played for multiple hours before giving feedback. Maybe the opinion changes down the line.

[lone violet]

It's just how people defended cosmetic MTX and FIFA back In 2010

[waxen zealot]

The Slippery Slope fallacy is a term for a reason, my dude.

[lone violet]

And look at us now, Pay2Win In many AAA games Is the norm now.

[waxen zealot]

You can't just assume the worst will come of this without also acknowledging that things could, Iunno, work out just fine.

[mighty pond]

Bro why can't people just be happy with what the devs put in the game

And if they're not why can't they be respectful about it

[calm vessel]

don't recall boosters being something you need to buy

[light niche]

Cosmetic mtx keeps live service games alive, there's good and bad to it

[mighty pond]

I legitimately do not understand how that is such a hard concept

[lone violet]

It never started that way before either

[craggy flame]

His point is that it gets added down the line.

[buoyant gazelle]

I'll gladly buy skins to support these devs.

[mighty pond]

But they literally said that they're not adding in microtransactions so what the fuck is the problem

[brittle lantern]

sleeper respawn.is this normal?

[lone violet]

But It can be quite easy, refusing to admit that Is literally gatekeeping It. I am throwing shade on the other side of the coin as well

[buoyant gazelle]

It is, bitez

[heady kelp]

@brittle lantern yes

[mighty pond]

Well not pay-to-win aspect microtransactions at least

[urban brook]

only inside the Sac rooms

[heady kelp]

ball sack rooms

[shrewd flume]

what you're describing is a slippery slope which is a logical fallacy

[light niche]

Yeah I'm pretty sure they said they'll add cosmetics

[shrewd flume]

I wouldnt worry

[craggy flame]

Because poeple have lost the trust in game devs because of scummy politics. So his concern is understandable, but he started out really toxic. It changed now though which is nice

[lone violet]

Cosmetics aren't a problem. Cosmetics how they are done today often are however

[light niche]

looks at fortnite

[mighty pond]

Just kind of sad if you ask me

[urban brook]

ok lest be honest guys, we paid a onetime payment for this game this is still going how long later? anyone paid for a season pass? microtransactions? this Dev team has provided numerous levels for a onetime payment.

[mighty pond]

Whatever have fun

[craggy flame]

Ofc it is Peace

I will put my trust in the devs

[lone violet]

Criticism will always be seen as sad or annoying by the Ignorant or lazy, no matter how you put It.

Just like how people defended FIFA back In 2010

[calm vessel]

i kinda paid 30$ for 600 hours

[lone violet]

And yay, Regulations for Gambling coming In bois

[calm vessel]

cool

[craggy flame]

finally

[lone violet]

GTFO definitely needs some form of live service but that's another topic

[heady kelp]

what for

[calm vessel]

this isnt in GTFO and the talk is going nowhere but with you complaining about the game be it difficulty or mtx

[lone violet]

It was sarcasm as In, look at how far It has gotten.

[light niche]

To keep it alive

[lone violet]

To keep the Devs fed

[light niche]

It can't last forever since you only pay once for it

[lone violet]

^

Also they lack a publisher

Not sure who their Investors are

And what share they own

[craggy flame]

Regulations are in talk though. EA is extremely pissed at Belgium or the the Netherlands one of the two

So it is hard to see sarcasm there

[lone violet]

The sarcasm is that at the start

Everyone laughed their asses off for people not wanting the shit EA was starting to pull off

Everyone was like that Its doomscalling and 'sad' etc etc

And that It would never happen

And yet, a decade roughly later, regulations are yet to arrive, In the hopes of fixing the problem that started back then. I am simply mentioning the Issues that can easily arrive of these new changes

Just like how they have done before, and people are, just like In 2010, calling it nonsense, which Is fine.

But at the same, disappointing to see.

[calm vessel]

this has nothing to do with GTFO

[static steeple]

Of course, but no one's defending mtx because they're aren't being added

Not to here

[calm vessel]

chat for GTFO spoilers

[lone violet]

It does, quite a lot, for a game In Early Access

As Its not set In stone yet. At least that's what you said I think Panther, about the ever changing nature of GTFO

[eternal star]

you support with your wallet Force if you dont like it if it happens then dont buy its that simple

[calm vessel]

its for current rundown spoilers

[lone violet]

Well can't really talk anywhere else about Artifacts now can we?

[hearty bridge]

how to access overload on A2?

[calm vessel]

and i dont want to hear constant complaining rn

[light niche]

This is related to the artifacts

[urban brook]

can we get back to the game though

artifacts are good

[lone violet]

Does that ruffle your feathers In the wrong way?

[calm vessel]

no, just gets annoying. you know when someone talks about something over and over again and you heard enough

but it gets dragged on?

[static steeple]

It makes it a bit hard to discuss them as mechanics when the topic is being dominated by talk of non existant mtx

[calm vessel]

^

[lone violet]

Meh, I would rather hear that then stick my head In the sand and act like it doesn't exist.

[static steeple]

Really ask yourself if the devs would throw away years of good will for like a few extra dollars

[lone violet]

Nor that the change can be done with a flip of a switch due to existing Infrastructure

[static steeple]

Boost mtx have never been popular in games other than fifa

People laugh at them in anything else

Consistently

[lone violet]

Cyberpunk 2077 XD

[static steeple]

Not mtx

[shrewd flume]

Doesn’t have mtx?

[waxen zealot]

and not the same company.

[light niche]

Payday has boost mtx

[static steeple]

Sure does

And people hated them

[lone violet]

They did throw away tears of goodwill for extra dollars

Or a attempt at that

[light niche]

And some payday devs moved here, no?

[lone violet]

I wasn't referring to MTX In that particular comment

[placid oyster]

Mtx won't be added into the game, the only thing available for purchase MIGHT be a dev supporter pack with PERMANENT cosmetics, also one time purchase, they said that somewhere

[lone violet]

The leads did

[static steeple]

Yeah but they're a big company who released a game under pressure from investors

This is an indie game company

They literally survive off keeping that good will flowing

[eternal star]

@lone violet for the love of god you said your point several times get off your step stool its not in this game if it ever does come to gtfo then dont buy its literally that simple instead of crying nonstop

[lone violet]

I guess I ruffled someone's feathers

[static steeple]

Well indie might not be right but they're by no means cdpr

[lone violet]

I am sorry that my words are bringing you so much pain my guy.

Didn't mean to

[sacred nebula]

Let's calm down and switch the topic, as things seem to be going a bit out of topic and out of hand, please.

[static steeple]

Indeed

[placid wadi]

So
A2 are doing Extreme
The lights went out but the game hasn't registered as the task being complete
Our group is split between the Lights out being extreme and the other half saying we are supposed to have lights on

[calm vessel]

unfortunately GTFO will never be a AAA by definition

[lone violet]

Doesn't need to be

[mellow creek]

A2 get the bulkhead key dont dont do extreme's objective

[lone violet]

That term means little today

[mellow creek]

so u can do overload

overload is inside high before light gets off

[placid wadi]

Ahh

We are in Extreme and the lights are out

But the game is glitched

[sand beacon]

Nope, you can do overload after you pick up the hisec

[placid wadi]

Because the lights are off but the game doesn't register that we did it

[lone violet]

The black screen glitch?

[steady lotus]

dang bro a2 overload is crazy

[placid wadi]

And it allows us to re-iniciate the Reroute power

No

[steady lotus]

it scared me

[sand beacon]

A2 overload is basically r4b3 overload

[mellow creek]

the reroute will cause a blackout which makes overload's door close

[sand beacon]

at least the start

[hearty bridge]

so to do overload on a2 u need to go extreme -> high?

[placid wadi]

It allows us to infinitely run the console command

[mellow creek]

Extreme to get bulkhead > high>overload

[mighty pond]

Do you mean that it's not checking the objective off at all?

[solar swallow]

no

[placid wadi]

Yes

[sand beacon]

I've only done overload once, but we did extreme (get the key, do the objective) > high (get the objective) > then overload

[mighty pond]

Interesting I would just try to go through the level again quickly

[mellow creek]

hmm weird

i cant do overload once i do extreme

[placid wadi]

Restart?

[solar swallow]

yeah when we try and reroute power the scan breaks

[sand beacon]

overload door unlocks after you pick up the hisec

[placid oyster]

You have to complete high obhective, then you can go into overload

[light niche]

A2 extreme is bugged?

[solar swallow]

think so

[placid wadi]

Yeah

We are bugged right now

[light niche]

Rip

[sand beacon]

Worked fine for me

[tropic furnace]

it suppose to just turn off lights

[placid wadi]

We are about to enter the High level area from Extreme

[light niche]

Hope it works for my group when we all get off tonight

[placid wadi]

But the lights turned off but the objective never got scratched off

[sand beacon]

extreme is just the terminal to turn the lights off and then get the key to unlock high

[placid wadi]

Yeah

But the thing is

We can keep

Running the Terminal command

Even though we've already gotten the Bulkhead

[tropic furnace]

if you yeah that;s a bug

but it works with just turning off the lights

[placid wadi]

Will it still say we did Extreme?

When we finish or?

[tropic furnace]

if you click "o" in game you can see you completed extreme

[mighty pond]

Yeah the extreme can be done first and have the objectives still tick off. Like Andy said you are having a bug where the thing is not progressing. If you finish that run you can see if it gives you the extreme completion but I don't think it will.

Checking underneath the o tab would not be a bad idea either

[candid dragon]

so, anyone know what heat is and if it recovers over time?

[hollow fox]

yo how do you get the overload in A2? My group is confused.

[torn saddle]

Not really liking this sleeper respawn nonsense. Anyone know if they do this in all the levels? Feels like punishing the regular players to try and hinder the speedrunners up in here

[sand beacon]

I disagree that it punishes

[haughty plank]

it feels unrewarding

cleared a huge room with many enemies silently? Well guess what, do it again

[fair hill]

rewards NOT clearing rooms to save time

[atomic escarp]

so sleepers respawn now?

[candid dragon]

yeah its kind of a drag

[fair hill]

@atomic escarp in rooms with ceiling testicles

[haughty plank]

do they respawn based on time or distance?

[atomic escarp]

well fuck

that blows

[haughty plank]

its tedious imo

[candid dragon]

but even soloing 5 or 6 sleepers bunched together is hardly a problem

[buoyant gazelle]

Perhaps they don't respawn if the previous enemies weren't killed

Rewards stealth

[sand beacon]

I think they spawn based on events, like doors or objectives

[haughty plank]

++

[fair hill]

anyone know if scouts/other high profile enemies respawn with the cocoons?

[atomic escarp]

i was here to ask about the new booster system

[haughty plank]

that would be unny lmao

[vestal wraith]

found the a2 zone 20 audio file 🙂

[atomic escarp]

how does it work?

[sand beacon]

I've only seen sleepers, but i've also only done A tier

(sleepers respawning that is)

Yeah

[atomic escarp]

so what do boosters do?

are they permaanent?

single mission only?

[mellow creek]

so far only normal sleepers

at b3 now

[fair hill]

@mellow creek alright, thanks

[sand beacon]

Well, I don't dislike just bonking sleepers :P

[hollow fox]

yo how the hell do you get to the overload in a2??

[sand beacon]

Once you pick up the high objective the door unlocks

Idk if you have to do the extreme first or anything, I just did PE once and nothing else :P

[hollow fox]

what doors?

[sand beacon]

The bulkhead door to overload

[hollow fox]

in zone 20?

[sand beacon]

on the right side after the bridge

same door as overload in R4B3 overload

[atomic escarp]

Do they respawn if you kill just a few or all but 1 to clear a path?

Or can we prevent it by doing so?

[sand beacon]

Maybe, we'll have to do some testing

[mellow creek]

the entire zone will respawn

with the ball sacks

new pain in the ass

especially when u have to go back and forth between zones to retrieve things and u forget to leave someone behind

[atomic escarp]

I figured, but what if you don't fully clear it or only clear a path? Will those few enemies respawn, none spawn, or just make the room more packed?

[sand beacon]

I guess we’re gonna get very good at clearing sleepers lol

[craggy flame]

🥳

[atomic escarp]

I'm also curious when these respawn, because if the spawn cap isn't increased it could actually be beneficial

[rapid grail]

when you are scattered over the map enemys will spawn right in your face -.-

[craggy flame]

Test it. It is not so hard to figure that out