gtfo-spoiler-chat

[shy vessel]

[mossy yoke]

https://i.imgur.com/50KWCz1.gifv

[mighty pond]

r601: "we never intended for you to have a weapon in our game, it was only a long-term bug. Good luck prisoners"

[shy vessel]

[mossy yoke]

https://i.imgur.com/9vbF06N.gifv

[mighty pond]

Why did I click on that

[shy vessel]

epic embed fail

[shy vessel]

[mossy yoke]

intended for no embed

[shy vessel]

i've been outplayed

[mighty pond]

He's 7 parallel universes ahead of you Dak

You cannot win

[shy vessel]

[mossy yoke]

"I want the mapper in the game" - Dak
Creates primary water pistol called "The Mapper" - 10 Chambers
"..." - Dak
https://i.imgur.com/veNDnWb.jpg - Me

[shy vessel]

lmao

i would un-ironically use a water gun tho

[mighty pond]

I could map out directions on the wall for my team with it

Can I RGB the barrel or no

[mossy yoke]

Random Generated Bullets?

[mighty pond]

Precisely

[shy vessel]

each shot does random damage

[mighty pond]

Like the Zapinator from Terraria

Random gun firing effects

[mossy yoke]

Me with the mapper being chased by Dak
https://i.imgur.com/5sY37aQ.gifv

[mighty pond]

That's a most intriguing looking mapper

It almost looks like.. like a rocket launcher

[shy vessel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/782449204035321886/811301075382435910/bravo.gif

[mighty pond]

r5 RL..? 🤔

[mossy yoke]

like a gjallarhorn?

[mighty pond]

Indeed it does

[granite scarab]

i dont have the other gifs

[mossy yoke]

was too lazy to find the source, edit out a mapper, etc

[shy vessel]

you have 11 days d0c d0c

[granite scarab]

that sounds like a promise

[mighty pond]

From which party though lol

[granite scarab]

[thorn briar]

Hey everyone
anyone had this issue when the host disconnects, but host migration somehow glitches and doesn't allow any of the players to reconnect?

it's like, one guy is still running in the map, but the others can't see him in the rundown lobby, nor couldn't join through steam... :/

[shrewd flume]

Lobby is busted. you'll just have to remake. :/

[thorn briar]

...after 50 runs the one time we've managed to get past the E1 alarm and the game decided to bug on us 😢

[shrewd flume]

that sucks so much I'm sorry

[slim brook]

anyone knows where the e1 audio log is

[remote karma]

It's in the high part - you can't miss it I believe since it's a broken terminal with an audio log. It can be heard from miles away.

[dreamy bramble]

behind the first silent alarm, on the room immediately to the left iirc

[west crow]

On youtube, a quick search and you'll find it

[mighty pond]

It's pretty hard to miss it tbf

[mortal granite]

devs putting effort into making the lore terminal as loud as possible

[turbid cliff]

False

If they did they'd just put "threat level: terminal" and loop that

[mortal granite]

D2 terminal didn't do any noise

[candid dragon]

If i heard threat level terminal
I would fuckin book it

[frail zinc]

the worst of the enemies

terminal

[errant olive]

Imagine a level where you have to use a terminal to look a bunch of stuff up to find but every time you typed in a command it spawned a wave

[barren hollow]

Shhhhh don't give them ideas, they're always listening

[errant olive]

ahem

Error mother alarm

[frail zinc]

stacking error alarms

new one activating per uplink

with a 6 terminal uplink

[obtuse cedar]

Queen error alarm so you cannot c-foam cheese it

[granite scarab]

pmother that spawns mothers

[sacred slate]

pmothermother that spawns pmothers

[granite scarab]

pmothermother^2 that spawns titans but the titans split into 3 strikers when they die but when you kill the strikers they spawn into 3 babies

[pallid fern]

E1 be like beware of comically large biomass

[hoary garden]

gtfo, but with minecraft slimes

[atomic escarp]

hmmmm

modders be like

[errant vigil]

Modders be like everything dies in one hit or enemy kills you in one hit

[mortal granite]

it felt like

[west crow]

modders be like I really like to make content for the game I enjoy while adhering to the strict guidelines set in place sacrificing what content that could be made for more accessibility for a larger community without developer support

[mortal granite]

HP is none existence

[atomic escarp]

Cracker sleepers

animal crossing

sleepers

what if

sleeper who just decides to wake up

what if

sleeping shooter but is secretly scout

Sleeper scout?

[soft basin]

sleepwalking giant also?

[atomic escarp]

yes

[devout river]

I think someone has created a sleeping scout

I don’t know though

We probably can’t talk about it anyway

[atomic escarp]

Not here

[atomic escarp]

lol

[granite scarab]

map

weary

[forest horizon]

when are people going to realize the mapper could be a useful and more importantly unique tool as opposed to slightly different sentry #4

[mortal granite]

i'm still don't know what the mapper uses

unless they somehow remove biotracker

[forest horizon]

Well, the biotracker is almost exclusively good for alarms but not really that useful for stealth

The mapper could fit that role pretty well imo

[mortal granite]

wdym not good for stealth?

for me right now, the mapper are like wall hax

[forest horizon]

It can be good but its never really needed

[dreamy bramble]

shadows

[mortal granite]

you can use flashlight

but some area

don't have a wall or something to cast the shadow

[forest horizon]

anyway they would be filling similar roles, but I don't see how thats any different than having sentries in the same situation

[dreamy bramble]

i'm interested to see what the utility of it is

[forest horizon]

One idea I did have would be to make it easier to see enemies heartbeats in stealth

Maybe even make shadow enemies heartbeats visible

[nocturne flax]

bruh mapper it just upgraded biotracker

[forest horizon]

Although I guess it would be weird if the mapper did that, but for it to be in the game you have to make it different somehow

[dreamy bramble]

maybe it would highlight the whole room in some kind of glowy outline, including enemies?

helps with darker zones and fog

[forest horizon]

Like how auto sentry is just more useful burst sentry?

Bio helps with knowing sleeper positions, but their exact movements especially in stealth is very hard to read

So yeah it could make that aspect easier in some ways

[nocturne flax]

what its mapper suppose to do

that biotracker cant?

apart from the cool effect in the trailer that shows the room i dont know what else it do

[hoary garden]

show enemy type/orientation

[forest horizon]

Well, say you have a very dark, fog filled room. Not everybody is going to be able to see every enemies heartbeat and the sounds blend together sometimes, which makes it difficult. If the mapper made the room and enemies more visible it would make stealth much easier but it would be a lot less useful for alarms

[nocturne flax]

thats nice, but like bio its way of a safer pick

[hoary garden]

yeah...

[nocturne flax]

tagging enemies its more important than knowing theyre position

[hoary garden]

it could have some niche uses

[nocturne flax]

like

[hoary garden]

but its not too versatile/useful most of the time

[dreamy bramble]

i like the idea of it allowing you to see what's actually inside a box/locker

[forest horizon]

Obviously its a niche tool, but is that a bad thing?

I'd argue it isnt

[nocturne flax]

if it does that its kind of cool

[dreamy bramble]

would help a lot in speedruns/errors if you can gauge whether the box is worth slowing down for

[forest horizon]

That could be another use

Something the biotracker cant do

[nocturne flax]

but even then knowing ahead of time where enemies are, how many, and if they become active you can tag them

its just a better value

than mapper

[forest horizon]

Wouldn't that depend on the level?

[nocturne flax]

doesnt really matter

if you can tag you get value

[mortal granite]

that's like , removing the biotracker

[nocturne flax]

100% of the time

[mortal granite]

unless they put in Shadow alarm

[nocturne flax]

unless you have the bug

[forest horizon]

How? If you have a stealth heavy mission then bio is not needed at all if the mapper does what we've been saying

[mortal granite]

what's really a stealth heavy mission tho

unless it's B tier

[nocturne flax]

r2b2 lel but even then it wasnt

[mortal granite]

nowadays, below C tier are like, Alarm after alarm after alarm

[forest horizon]

I still don't think its a bad thing for tools to have niche properties

being useful all the time is boring

Having bio and mapper would be a really cool combination imo

[nocturne flax]

goes into pub
picks mapper
people flame me
gets kicked

[forest horizon]

lol

[nocturne flax]

ah the circle of life

[mortal granite]

it's cool and all, but do it help us in combat mister Mapper?

hmmmmm???

[nocturne flax]

I would love mapper

[forest horizon]

No, not really

But its not supposed to do everything lol

[mortal granite]

but think about it

when it go loud

it only use are mapping the area

and we don't know what the mapper do in fog area

[forest horizon]

it would make heartbeats much easier to see for other players, even in fog

[mortal granite]

it's cool to see whatever behind a wall

but if it go loud

then i would pick bio

[nocturne flax]

If its stays permantently on the enemies then i would take it

[forest horizon]

yeah, I'd agree with that

[mortal granite]

but sadly

[forest horizon]

I imagine a pretty meta loadout would be bio, mapper, cfoam, mines

[mortal granite]

that's not gonna be the case

[nocturne flax]

meta kek

[mortal granite]

since bio tag don't stay forever

[dreamy bramble]

watch them make mapper take tool refills to use

[forest horizon]

the ultimate combo

that would be horrible

lmao

[mortal granite]

mapper would lag the shit out of the game tho

if use in combat

red dot outline on enemy?

render 18 enemies on a single area

[forest horizon]

Tbh mapper would probably have a longer cooldown but last longer to compensate

[mortal granite]

tbh

it's cool and all

but i want my game to run at least 30fps

[forest horizon]

I doubt it would strain your pc lol

[nocturne flax]

hes not wrong tho

[forest horizon]

truly

[nocturne flax]

:pepehands:

[forest horizon]

mapper just makes every enemy and every room simultaneously visible

3 f p s

[nocturne flax]

I dunno man

just do r5 ya know

I wake up: do a E,B,D whatever

close game

[forest horizon]

just release the mapper under the headline: R5 Released!

[tawny mirage]

What if the mapper is a limited-use item like glowsticks? Wouldn't that work better than taking up a tool slot?

[west crow]

if they make the mapper a consumable, they'll upset a lot of people

[mortal granite]

they'll be fine

they have to accept it

their life is a lie

[pure spire]

ok i keep hearing stuff about R5 being a joke or somn

is R4:EXT the end of the rundowns?

[dreamy bramble]

nope

people have just been waiting a while

[mossy yoke]

R4 is definitely not the end of it lol. We're hard at work on R5 now, and 1.0 release is in our sights. Take a look at the roadmap @pure spire 🙂

.t roadmap

[jaunty hedge]

You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap

[pure spire]

holy shit i was not expecting a dev response

but yea thats pog

[turbid cliff]

Imagine gtfo bugless

[mossy yoke]

they are all features. some features are loved more than others, some are the red headed middle child 😉

[dreamy bramble]

ladder invincibility

[mossy yoke]

or should i say "we love all our features, no matter what they are"

[terse relic]

Said Zeus when he talked about loving all his children equally

Also Doc when are bug tester applications opening again?

[mossy yoke]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nocturne flax]

Are you nerfing kiting at all next rundown

you cannot play a lfg begginners without some tryhard circle kiting a class 3

its making the game boring and annoying to play in publics

[candid dragon]

id agree to a circle kiting nerf, if they slightly bring down enemy run speed/attack speed.
or
if they simply clump up too tight when not behind a door, they change aggro to a new player.

or
after 3 whiffs they change aggro to new player

[errant vigil]

Making them hit better would also work and fix the rng of them just not hitting you when you slightly move

so you actually have to shove them or shoot stagger them to stop a hit

[turbid cliff]

or simply their attack animation speed is dependent on how far their target is

kind of like aiming or charging up their intestines for the throw

and if necessary something with the charger's melee attack could take care of people trying to run away zig-zagging

[knotty sphinx]

That wouldn't be a bad idea if the enemy melee attacks didn't result in them teleporting around

[turbid cliff]

Isn't that crawlers only

[knotty sphinx]

Giants, hybrids, chargers and the tank are crawlers?

I'm talking about the melee attacks specifically

[turbid cliff]

Oh you mean that melee attack

[errant vigil]

yea they all jolt a little bit don't they

its just more noticeable on crawlers on stairs

[nocturne flax]

Dont know, but kite needs to be nerf

[robust marsh]

<@&408548765599793173>

just gonna drop this here

[peak niche]

Thanks Rey!

[livid stone]

doc: take a look at our roadmap!
the roadmap: it's all dust and rust

[quiet stone]

Don't worry, I think we can expect R5 to be out by the start of 2022.

[woeful vector]

[mossy yoke]

i hope

[solemn wigeon]

2032*

[frosty hamlet]

how can i make a lobby i mean i did it but where i have to post my lobby id ??

[nocturne flax]

#how-to-matchmake

[granite token]

How hard is C3 PE?

[mortal granite]

if you do it correctly

it's like D2 difficulty

if you do it the NOT correct way

it could be harder than E1

[granite token]

I see thanks! It's the infinite Chargers is the problem

[mortal granite]

it's not really a problem

if you push fast

that's why it's like D2 PE level of difficulty

[granite token]

basically you have to be quick

act quickly

[mortal granite]

you could

plan it out BEFORE you finish the HSU scan

[wraith drift]

It gets difficult when you go downstairs in the spitter zone

[granite token]

i see thanks

[mortal granite]

it's not really difficult?

because if you finish extreme

there is no fog whatsoever

[wraith drift]

Well, maybe I just remember it being tedious xd

[mortal granite]

the thing that people forgot about this game

it's that, you can plan out everything

[granite token]

true

btw i managed to finish c2 pe

[mortal granite]

they could have even put mine before they start

[granite token]

yeah

we did the slow retreat on c2 pe

close a door put some mine

then move on

[mortal granite]

everytime you die, you can plan it out

learn from your mistake and make something better

[granite token]

we did the booby trap on the surge alarms (mines, c foam and auto sentry)

[mortal granite]

that's why speedrunner do their run

[granite token]

yeah

they know the map

[mortal granite]

they don't just run in and done with it

they need ammo

tool

[granite token]

yeah

[mortal granite]

health

[wraith drift]

Resource management

[granite token]

you really need to conserve as much resources as possible

don't waste them if you don't really need it

[mortal granite]

to them, error alarm are nonexistence

[granite token]

yeah

(and you need to learn to kite and run as well, and use doors as barricades to you advantage)

btw on my c2 pe run it was almost perfect. i have 88 assault and 100 machine gun after the expedition.

[mortal granite]

c2 are really chill run

it just really long

[granite token]

yeah

took me 2 hours

but i made it

what is your playstyle btw

@mortal granite

[mortal granite]

speedrunner

[granite token]

anti-horde and kite

[mortal granite]

i'm passed that

we shoot now

[granite token]

yeah

[obtuse surge]

dmr

[granite token]

Preferred Loadouts - Heavy Assault Rifle, Assault Rifle (Regular), Autopistol, Machinegun. Burst Cannon (sometimes).

though my scout melee skill is abysmal.

[shadow scroll]

Hammer - Hammer - Hammer - Hammer, bio tracker

[hoary garden]

Mapper - Mapper - Mapper - Mapper

[solemn wigeon]

Fists - Fists - Fists - Fists

Infact, if the strikers lick you, just lick them back

[molten pumice]

Ham - Ham - Ham - Nuclear warhead

[woeful vector]

I want a taser in the game

[granite token]

😄

[tawny mirage]

So last try on B2PE we got surprised by an unexpected mother when looking for the last OSIP behind the blood door in the second zone. What kind of enemies are behind the blood door to your right when you enter the large overload main area?

[hoary garden]

regular enemies

big guys small guys

no scouts

[pliant shard]

If you want to avoid mothers you don’t want to do the blood door that you encounter when you open the free security door

Everything else is pretty normal with enemies like illegal mentioned

[robust marsh]

wait there was a mother in B2PE?

[hoary garden]

zone 295

2 mothers

usually you have rng such that you dont have to go there

[pliant shard]

Either way if you have a cfoam launcher or cfoam nades from previous zones it’s manageable

[hoary garden]

if your brought 2 burst cannons you can take the pain

[tawny mirage]

Well I used all my cfoam while holding the door, assuming I'd no longer need any since we already gathered all the cells. 😅 We'll probably go for that first blood door instead then, supplies were not really the issue.

[dreamy bramble]

i'd rather go to all 3 non-mother zones instead of just the mother zone and the free zone before it

it's that bad imo

[devout river]

Ye

[tawny mirage]

Yeah we had a forward spawn in what was probably the mother area, we were even 2 rooms away but still had aggro.

[barren notch]

First time we got B2PE we went to the mother room. We didnt set it off though and only saw one

[nocturne flax]

Mother zone fun

[high forge]

Depends on what kind of spawns you have for the mothers, sometimes the setup makes it's a lot worse than it should be

[thorn briar]

just wondering, do we have any stats on the % of players who's got to E1?

[obtuse surge]

they post stats like that at the end of the rundown

[thorn briar]

hope that'll be soon 😄

[robust marsh]

[robust marsh]

ye

[craggy orbit]

E1 isn’t real, it can’t hurt you

[obtuse cedar]

How many E1 deaths alone stat?

That is what we need to know.. so we can see how's the % of fail run were E1 alone

[nocturne flax]

Well r2e1 had 66,589 deplyments

589 people beat it

I think this E1 will have more completions

[obtuse cedar]

🤔

[nocturne flax]

It will have more since now you dont even need to complete fully all the levels

[mighty pond]

More completions, but also more deployments. Ultimately imo roughly the same clear%

[obtuse cedar]

Perhaps but what if the stats include PE?

We have layer difficulty. Maybe stats will separate for layer difficulty? 🤔

[mighty pond]

Why would they not separate them..?

It's two separate options

[nocturne flax]

not really ||poopyhead||

[mighty pond]

nou

[turbid cliff]

Well that's misleading

It has that many clears

Not unique

[nocturne flax]

589 completions*

[mighty pond]

Just divide the number by 4 and boom, easy maximum for the unique clear count

[candid dragon]

probably even less

divide by 5 or 6 and it would probably be closer

[mighty pond]

Hence my use of maximum

I don't. The analytics are solely for while the rundown was present so it should be kept as such.

[nocturne flax]

They probably forgot

because not gonna lie warden twiter its kinda dead

xdxdxdx

[vapid moon]

is gtfo gunplay based on rainbow 6?

[mortal granite]

how is it based on R6?

[hoary garden]

??

[mortal granite]

it don't even have lean option

[hoary garden]

its based on FPS game design lmao

your gun go pew pew and you can ads

[obtuse cedar]

basic modern shooter

[atomic escarp]

majority of fps games

[hoary garden]

pretty much

[atomic escarp]

whatll make you legal

[hoary garden]

[vapid moon]

thats what i thought

[brazen lava]

do we have a name for the monster at the end of C1 yet?

[atomic escarp]

tank

what

tank (daddy, father)

[heavy wave]

father

[atomic escarp]

any of those names

[brazen lava]

lol i was gonna call it the hydra because of the three mouths

[atomic escarp]

😏

[mighty pond]

Tank is the actual name. Daddy/Father are community names

[errant vigil]

Same for birther

[vapid moon]

tank fits best idk what to say

[granite scarab]

i call it big poppa

[desert shell]

big daddy

[oblique zephyr]

Shadow Moses

[brazen lava]

can you imagine if the shadow scout tendrils where also invisible?

[pulsar zodiac]

'fun gameplay'

[brazen lava]

really gotta say i dont see how people have so much trouble stealthing scouts. just flash them with your light when you want them to stop. and use the second to get close so that your under the tendrils and your good to go

i guess most people dont realize the flashlight doesnt agro scouts. just makes them drop their net early

its not exactly obvious i mean who would try it. in every other case flashing enemies is generally a bad idea

[dreamy bramble]

it's just that the hitbox is very unforgiving

many new players hit the shoulders or something cause they don't understand the hammer's arc

[brazen lava]

fair.

i will admit i usually go loud with a sniper too. less risk of accidentally triggering them. but i've never had too much trouble with the stealth approach. getting close enough without alerting the sleepers is the hardest part

[pulsar zodiac]

welp you can't really do that in later level where there's usually pairs of them

2/4/6

[brazen lava]

true, its why its good to practice

or just go around i suppose. scouts stick to their path so easy enough to predict

[dreamy bramble]

i'd honestly rather alert a scout instead of just leaving it at this point

it's so risky to leave it roaming around

may as well get rid of it when the stakes are low

[brazen lava]

depends on your skill level. newer players who cant stealth them probably arent going to be going loud on purpose outside of alarms either

[dreamy bramble]

i'm just afraid of sprinting into it during extraction or whatever

[brazen lava]

lol. im the kind of idiot who would forget it was there and run face first into it just crossing the map normally

[dreamy bramble]

exactly lol

i've done it so many times, just running into a room because i thought we already cleared the whole zone

[turbid cliff]

You could always just close those doors

[dreamy bramble]

yeah but i'm just dumb

[brazen lava]

Its better to full clear so you can loot in peace anyway

Dont want to play red light green light when all i want is some damn ammo

[brazen lava]

Quick question before i waste my key/time. What kind of alarm is overload in c3? If its an error i want to save it till the end to minimise my annoyance

[dreamy bramble]

charger error

4 every 45 secs or so

[brazen lava]

Is it an error, or an normal class alarm

[dreamy bramble]

error

[brazen lava]

Thanks

[dreamy bramble]

there is one class alarm in overload and a fun door but you should be able to handle that with the resources provided

[brazen lava]

True, i just dont like dealing with an error my first time through a level regardless of difficulty

[dreamy bramble]

yea it's probably the second hardest error in r4

makes finishing off the high section an absolute nightmare

[brazen lava]

I made the mistake of doing overload on c2 before finishing the main objective

Didnt do that twice

[dreamy bramble]

similar thing happened to me

some guy found the ball, and just grabbed it on sight

we died in about a minute from the 4 scouts that alerted

[brazen lava]

Even without the scouts, dealing with a perma shadow alarm the rest of the level will test all but the very best players

[dreamy bramble]

just cap em out and have someone run in a circle

[brazen lava]

Reminds me of r1d1

That was a nasty suprise

[dreamy bramble]

that was great

hopefully they do more of those scripted sequences in the future

[brazen lava]

The three of us where not prepared

Oh dont get me wrong it was a great ambush. But it was an evil level to introduce the shadows on

[dreamy bramble]

that's the best part

just when you thought you were almost through...

though the massive loot hallway right before kinda clued us in lol

[brazen lava]

I was taking a break for R3 so my first encounter with a mother was behind a motion alert door

That was also a great ambush

[dreamy bramble]

that would be terrifying

[brazen lava]

Yup it was in the same room behind them. And it being a motion alert of course we went loud

[dreamy bramble]

my team guessed that there was a mother behind, cause the biotracker only showed a single enemy behind the door, so we were prepared and gunned it down before the second wave

[brazen lava]

We didnt last long

[dreamy bramble]

the babies are relentless

first time i saw a mother in r3b2 we triggered the room instantly by accident and got swarmed so quickly

[hoary garden]

i dont think its possible to kite babies is it

i swear they're faster than you

[dreamy bramble]

they are faster

[brazen lava]

You know we didnt last long enough to find out

[dreamy bramble]

but if there are enough babies their ai breaks down and you can kite

[hoary garden]

r3d1 speedrun strat?

[dreamy bramble]

nah in r3d1 i think they just tanked it

[brazen lava]

I find if there are enough babies sometimes they just break entirely and stand idle

[hoary garden]

ah lmao

i feel like i see that with regular sleepers

a lot

[dreamy bramble]

babies go immortal if you kill the mother right as she births one i think

happens on blood doors too

[hoary garden]

like they just stand still for 2 seconds

[brazen lava]

My favorite glitch was back in r1

Had half a sleeper slav squating in the middle of a room

I remember because i stopped mid kite to stare at it like wtf

[brazen lava]

Add a wipe gas mask button to the wish list. Lol

[nocturne flax]

Suggested

[brazen lava]

Figured, its why i didnt use the command

[robust marsh]

the sad part is that the last 3 i saw that suggested that they all got disliked to 50+

[brazen lava]

Probably because its such a common request

People tend to dislike repeat posts

[turbid cliff]

You either quit reading suggestions or read enough for all of them to become reposts

Doc gave up on managing repost suggestions kekw

[mortal granite]

he got critique for delete suggestion

i would just gave up as well

anyone want laser sword?

[brazen lava]

"Suppressors and night vision goggles when?"

[turbid cliff]

Could alleviate it by just making a channel where popular or dev-confirmed suggestions get featured

[mortal granite]

night vision i would say it's ok

as long as it has time limit

a short one

i would like people getting blind while wearing it

[brazen lava]

I'd more lean toward energency flares or something similar. Like a super glowstick equiv to long range flash light. Maybe limit it to stacks of one. Lights up whole room but say the noise could alert sleepers if you throw it too close

[mortal granite]

devs need to buff glowstick

like, everything is triggerable the sleeper

except glowstick

or at least, you glowstick as a bait

it's just there right now

newcomer will see the glowstick mechanic are good

until they turn on their flashlight

[brazen lava]

Glow sticks are in a fine spot i think

[mortal granite]

ye

i think that's like

beginner thing

[brazen lava]

What needs a buff is the LR flashlight. Wish i had a reason to unironically carry it besides "this is the first thing i found, and will drop it the second i find glowsticks"

[mortal granite]

for normal game

you can use it to sync the sleepers

[brazen lava]

Normal flash does that too

[turbid cliff]

I unironically like to use it with double rev

Hel rev does have the range but is unreliable sometimes, not sure why

[brazen lava]

Man i half expected there to be a mother or something hiding in c3's 267

Its never so easy as just walking in and grabbing the key

[dreamy bramble]

?

[brazen lava]

Just me expecting the game to throw a monkey wrench in plans

As it always does

[dreamy bramble]

which ones 267 again

[brazen lava]

After the generator cluster

Its where you get your bulkhead key after finishing extreme

[dreamy bramble]

oh

yeah

i guess there are the shadow giants but they aren’t very scary after they got nerfed

[brazen lava]

Yeah, i just grabbed they key and left them since i knew i wasnt coming back

[hoary garden]

i think its fine, useful for spitters, shadows and syncing

besides that its fun to just bring your portable sun to a room

and just be like

"let there be light"

[bold widget]

Yo I swear nothing feels more satisfying then flicking with the burst cannon on 2 scouts

[dreamy bramble]

flicking the burst cannon on three scouts

[atomic escarp]

Not 5 quick kills with 1 burst?

[bold widget]

Next goal 5 shadow scouts one burst

[bold widget]

That too

[obtuse surge]

5 scouts

all headshots

might honestly not be possible because the 5th might get alerted before it even gets hit

[bold widget]

Btw sometimes when I one tap sleepers with the burst the room doesn't get alerted, bug?

[obtuse surge]

could be range

[bold widget]

Was inside generator room in d1 killed like 6 sleepers that way

Maybe canceled to fast dunno

[obtuse surge]

were you in the room

[bold widget]

Yep

Inside the zone itself

Might also be a non host thingy

I wasnt the host

[obtuse surge]

yeh

that was going to be my next question

the only time i've had it happen where i can't explain it

was with me not being host

[bold widget]

Yeah latency is the reason the most likely

[obtuse surge]

i also know that the sound literally won't play for the host sometimes

the sound of your burst

so i guess it makes sense that in that case it also wouldn't alert anything?

[bold widget]

Misterious

[obtuse surge]

there's also desync on switching gear

that can lead to people seeing you use something that you're not actually using

and with the canceling you're swapping very fast so that could be related

it's a pretty funny bug when it happens to c foam launcher

you just see someone shoot c foam on a door with their primary

[bold widget]

Lulz

[hoary garden]

we had a desync where our teammate was running around with fists

meanwhile shooting sleepers

[queen field]

Hackett has lost it

[brazen lava]

im not asking for full solo support. but i would like it if lines would change to reflect solo status.

"we can do this!" "dont let them flank you!"

<- is alone

[queen field]

"git gud" would be nice too

[brazen lava]

i know this is a lot of extra fluff to ask for. but more tense lines for solo/less players would be cool too

never gonna happen though lol

[turbid cliff]

"GTFO is designed from the ground up to be played with at least one other human player"

solo is technically out of the question but the wording here is really weird considering so far they only balance around full teams

[brazen lava]

i dont mean changing the difficulty at all. i mean side non gameplay stuff that can easily be reserved for post release/1.0 updates

[turbid cliff]

what i quoted doesn't mention the difficulty 🤔

[brazen lava]

when you think about it. difficulty options comes in the form of playing with less people

sure you get more supplies. but you also have more monsters to deal with, with less guns

but thats beside the point

you can maintain developing with full teams in mind, while acknowledging solo/less than 4 people is something people do

say "wonder why theres only three of us this time" on expedition start

[obtuse surge]

Doesn't seem like their goal

I wouldn't say they're currently "ignoring" solo play (or just less than 4 players in general)

But rather actively working against it

It should be very simple for them to have the S1 scans take the same amount of time no matter the team size

[brazen lava]

its a fools errand

[obtuse surge]

But they decided to make them longer for less players

[brazen lava]

the more they try. the more try hards will prove them wrong

never bet against the player base. especially in a game like this

[obtuse surge]

Well it just means players who do play with a smaller team end up using cheesy strats more often

[brazen lava]

im more concerned its not a great long term plan for the game. the higher they make the barrier of entry. the less likely people are to buy it for themselves and their friends

[obtuse surge]

Their game and they can make it work exactly the way they want to

It does decrease accessibility by being near "strict" 4 player only

you're right about that

[brazen lava]

:P i'd just hate to see it become another died in early access gem. already seen it with hellion. the devs had to close their doors because nobody was buying. and that was a far less niche game

[obtuse surge]

and they're probably aware of that too

[brazen lava]

also consider this game doesnt have the long term staying power of an open world either. one set of missions with no way to get more or revisit old ones means interest wanes with the tides

just doesnt seem sustainable to me

[dreamy bramble]

that's the idea of the rundown system

[brazen lava]

what do i know though. their the professionals. if their confident this will last. all the power to them

[dreamy bramble]

in theory at least, the game is not meant to be your "main game" like many live-service/open world games

you just hop on when they drop a rundown, and grind it til you're satisfied

and you come back for the next one

at least that's how i understand their reasoning

[brazen lava]

if this was a completed game and not early access that would be fine. but they need a flow of new players to keep funded to keep developing. actively working against that by constantly raising the barrier of entry doesnt seem wise to me

[dreamy bramble]

i don't know if they're really raising the barrier to entry?

[atomic escarp]

mmm yes kiting an S1 scan

[obtuse surge]

i don't believe that the increased time for the S1's was just pure coincidence

[dreamy bramble]

rundown 4 is very accessible compared to previous rundowns as the layered difficulty allows for newer players to feel some meaningful progression without having to actually get substantially better

compared to the wall that was many of the r2 b levels, the devs seem to want to give newer players an easier way in

[atomic escarp]

well it took me til i just got finished being carried with all pe a levels and a few b levels to finally get good

[brazen lava]

maybe this is just a side effect of me joining with R1, but i didnt buy myself and three other friends copies to try. i bought myself one and hopped in to try it quick before roping anybody else in. i can see a lot of people doing the same, going this is too hard refunding and moving on. maybe its better with matchmaking, who knows. but tossing somebody to the wolves isnt the best way to pull somebody in

[tulip vale]

I've probably bought this game for 8 people now

[dreamy bramble]

i think that's just the design philosophy tbh

they just throw you in, and if you stick around, you'll probably stay in

debatable how profitable or sustainable it is, but that's the strategy right now

[brazen lava]

i think my strong opinions on the matter come from me really liking the game and wanting it to succeede. i dont want it to become another died in early access game

[shrewd flume]

Thematically that’s exactly what’s happening. Getting thrown to the wolves

Errr.. sleepers

[dreamy bramble]

yeah for sure, but it seems that the devs have a strong vision atm and don't want to compromise on it

i really do hope it works out

[brazen lava]

i can respect that. but i dont think its the right strat for an early access game that is reliant on new buyers to keep funded

[dreamy bramble]

i have no idea what the logistics are looking like behind the scenes so it's not really something i can comment on

[brazen lava]

ive seen too many other small studios close their doors for lack of purchasing players is all

[shrewd flume]

I mean they’re hiring 8 positions? I think they’re doing good

[dreamy bramble]

in the end, if they do have to drop the barrier to entry for some newer players, they'll do it, regardless of what we think

if nothing changes i'll assume their plan is working out

[brazen lava]

time can only tell, until then i'll continue to keep enjoying it

[dreamy bramble]

pretty much

[brazen lava]

until then. time to dip my toes into D level

[dreamy bramble]

have fun :)

d2pe is one of my favorite expeditions in r4

[atomic escarp]

i hate you

[brazen lava]

first i need a coffee to wake myself up for this

[atomic escarp]

have fun bro

d1 is alright at first

but then you get d21

d2&

d2*

FCK

[brazen lava]

lol

[dreamy bramble]

lmao

[atomic escarp]

too early in the morning to type

[brazen lava]

what im really excited(dreading) for is E, i hear a lot of people say its impossible

[atomic escarp]

r2 e1 was harder

(is what im told)

[nocturne flax]

R2e1 was harder because of the time frame

It wasnt that hard looking back at it

[dreamy bramble]

r4e1 is probably the hardest expedition so far

so have fun when you get there

[atomic escarp]

i guess that makes sense

newer game newer players

[brazen lava]

as long as its not an insta alarm from go like one of the r2 levels that i cant remember. im sure i can ease into it(and by that i mean die slightly slower)

[atomic escarp]

dont know how to play the game

[dreamy bramble]

it’s different

[nocturne flax]

r2 was like 3 months?? r4 been like 5 already

[dreamy bramble]

r2 was like 2 and a half or something

it was super short

[nocturne flax]

shieeet even worst

[brazen lava]

yeah i never got to finish r2 didnt even attempt r3 because i was taking a break. might look into that trick of downloading previous versions of game through the steam console

[nocturne flax]

and r2 introduce many new things in a really short timeframe (error in E1, b1 blood door, lock melters :D)

[dreamy bramble]

every level in r2 except r2c1 had a unique objective or mechanic introduced

the amount of new stuff was great

[nocturne flax]

doing that defeats the purpose of theire rundown system

[brazen lava]

i doubt we'll get another rundown like r2. it was unique in that it was still that post launch honey moon period where the game had momentum and the devs had a ton of ideas to ride it with

[nocturne flax]

even people who have acces to old rundowns dont really do it because its just stupid

[dreamy bramble]

r2 was probably the product of the devs finishing off a bunch of half-done mechanics that were initially planned for ea release

that’s why there was so much new stuff

[brazen lava]

well ive already made my opinions known on the rundown system lol. no need to revisit that topic

we could be here all day debating the merits of it and get nowhere.

[dreamy bramble]

yep

[atomic escarp]

oh yeah well i started r4 🌬️

[nocturne flax]

i dunno, i care more about the future

the future looking good in this game

[dreamy bramble]

i get the feeling r5 will have some kind of customization

[nocturne flax]

i said theyre finally done with variations

[brazen lava]

with the whole shaeffer thing. the plot is really going to take off i feel

[nocturne flax]

mother and tank count as new enemies to me

[atomic escarp]

ah yes player model customization

[dreamy bramble]

hybrid is new enough to count imo

[nocturne flax]

^

[atomic escarp]

time to make my hitbox untouchable 😏

[brazen lava]

shadow mother/tank

[dreamy bramble]

they already did in r2e1

[nocturne flax]

nah theres variation, then theres lazyness

shadow scout makes sense lore wise

that not so much

[atomic escarp]

how does shadow scout make sense lore wise

[nocturne flax]

i think weve already had this disccusion about shadowing everything

[atomic escarp]

thats just racist

[dreamy bramble]

can’t have oil and shadow on the same guy ig

[brazen lava]

you say that as if we know enough of the lore to say anything makes sense yet

[dreamy bramble]

oil scout will happen eventually

[nocturne flax]

just add snatcher dammit!

[atomic escarp]

just add

[nocturne flax]

stop

[atomic escarp]

a scout but scary

enemy that when you hit it has a chance of splitting into 2 and regrouping 😏

[nocturne flax]

[pallid fern]

Chargers covered themselves in oil before it was hip

[nocturne flax]

i have a feeling we will

they've been in posters and trading cards

im optimistic

[brazen lava]

inb4 we learn it was all just a dream/messed up game show/actually hell the whole time

[atomic escarp]

i just want oxygenless levels

can't run in game

[brazen lava]

NO, cease, i deal with that enough in drg. not here

[atomic escarp]

😏

[brazen lava]

the fog is bad enough sometimes

[atomic escarp]

yeah but imagine youre in infection fog

and you put a code in for an optional mission

and water comes down and clear the infection fog but you have to swim aroun now

[brazen lava]

how about a compromise

timed mission

life support is off

[obtuse surge]

tank damage from drowning by spamming medipack for the speedrun

[brazen lava]

gotta start a reactor and enter one of the back door codes to start air flow in the section

[atomic escarp]

mm yes

ideas

[brazen lava]

otherwise you suffocate

old mines are full of noxious deadly gasses

this is a mine

[atomic escarp]

lose mission

i liked the d2 idea tho tbh

r4d2

[nocturne flax]

r4d2 PE best level this rundown

[peak niche]

I had to many runs die to double constant alarms or chargers spawning when someone got downed while carrying cargo. I would say R4B3 is my favourite because of the new alarm type and the need to manage resources

[nocturne flax]

double spawns usually happens when you have lag afaik

but that doesnt interfere with the way the level its setup

all layer difficulties play an important role in that level

its well design

[atomic escarp]

i just dont like doing extreme and overload to get to the apex door with fog already up

[nocturne flax]

go faster

or if you go slow, get turbine and save fog repellers

you have the options

[atomic escarp]

whats the times for fog rising

like 10 minutes 5 minutes?

[nocturne flax]

more than that

[atomic escarp]

interesting

so longer runs are really just fucked lol

[nocturne flax]

if the fog its all the way up then your doing it wrong

but then it allows you to have the fog turbine

even if you have fog you still have a capabilities and resources of dealing with the level

[obtuse cedar]

The resource room with the turbine also has a bit more resources then the other resource room

Though harder alarm to get in

[mighty pond]

It's just a surge, it isn't that difficult

[obtuse cedar]

The layout is what make it more annoying

[mighty pond]

Just set up to have them always take the back doors

They will only come from one direction then, making the layout non-factor

[obtuse cedar]

Still have to deal with class V alarm and both alarm like to have scans going close to the back door. And at least G will be open for one of the two alarm. And sometime a straight path from A to D since saving both doors in A can help for the cargo escort

It's a pick your poison situation in that room

[mighty pond]

Do the Class V first, use a single door of the two that lead behind the ladder in the middle of the long room. They will break the single door and path that direction instead, or spawn in the back in the area deeper into the room by the subway area.

Once you finish the alarm, use the other door for the turbine room if you for some reason need to go in there. A door for each alarm, no problems.

Having the shadows path back that direction is actually beneficial as well, and there's shit tons of doors to use to foam for them as well so you really don't need two more.

[obtuse cedar]

Even then the resource room itself will have fog in rooms with chargers and scouts... And it's a dark zone too. Not the best idea to go in there. (You also need to clear 95 to get that power cell too meaning you lose even more time)

[mighty pond]

Just have one person go into 95 to get cell while others clear and set up for the alarms

It's not a time loss really

There's just no reason to do it cause it's more beneficial to just move forward without doing the rooms

[obtuse cedar]

Depends how crowded it is in 95 with the scout in it. Or terminal

[mighty pond]

Terminal doesn't factor at all though so idk why that was mentioned. And scout being crowded doesn't mean much either really

[obtuse cedar]

I've seen some messed up crowded room in 95 with a scout. And terminal to ping the cell if you can't find it fast enough

Sometime just rushing a terminal abd pinging is faster then looking blindly

[mighty pond]

Use your ears, the cell makes a noise. If you get a shitty ass back cell sure use the terminal, otherwise why would you go to the back of the zone just to ping?

[obtuse cedar]

I never once been able to hear the noise of a cell

[mighty pond]

Sounds rough for you

It's pretty easy to hear

May consider turning your audio options up a bit, might help

[obtuse cedar]

It's either too much chatter or something else is making more noise to my ear

It would be more tweaking the different volume that i need cause sleepers and gun are loud enough as it is for me

[mighty pond]

Cell should be in the same audio option as those I would think

Possibly just don't associate cell sound with the cell itself

I've plenty of times had people listen to a cell and they say something about how they knew the audio sound, but never associated it with the cell but instead atmospheric stuff.

It's easier heard when someone is holding a cell and you hit Tab

It will make the audio sound much louder, so anyone who hasn't actually heard it yet can understand what to listen for

[obtuse cedar]

Probably should go back in B1 to check later tonight since easy cells but either way i'm use to not hear cells so wouldn't matter to me either way.

[burnt sequoia]

just saw the ending of D2

i am now satisfied

[limber matrix]

I think I was with you because I just finished it also and that was great

[burnt sequoia]

oh really, i am jeff

u saw that name in ur team?

[limber matrix]

ethanjames2002 is mine

yea i think i saw you

[burnt sequoia]

oh yeah ur purple XD

really great job bro. epick kiting back at the class V alarm door

i wonder who were those people in the same room with that tank

were they using humans to nurish that creature?

[limber matrix]

idk but i really want to find out

it looked like a bunch of prisoners

and some were in the hospital bed things

so i guess they were getting tested on and mabye one of them became the tank

or many of them became mangled into one creature, which is the tank

idk

[burnt sequoia]

based on the number of bodies in that room, i think it's more likely that they were trying to merge those people into one, thus making a tank

[limber matrix]

yea

i think so

[burnt sequoia]

this is so sick

also if they were prisoners just like us, i wonder why they all looked so think and weak, uknow, lack of muscle kind of look

thin*

[limber matrix]

well they were dead

so they might have been there a while and were just decaying

[burnt sequoia]

but the strangest thing is that they put these people in elevators like the ones we rode in

[limber matrix]

yea

[burnt sequoia]

maybe those elevator boxes were originally meant for transporting human speciments (prisoners)

interesting interesting~

[craggy orbit]

Those were all HSU's

The elevator pods are HSU's as well, you can see that if you watch the drop intro

[burnt sequoia]

im sorry but what does HSU refer to?

[knotty sphinx]

As in what it stands for?

Hydrostasis Unit

[burnt sequoia]

i still don't get what it is in the game. I mean, i know what hydrostasis means, semantically speaking? But like, in the game, is it the name of some kind of creature or an organization?? I mean, lzal said the bodies were all HSU's. What does that even mean?

[craggy orbit]

No no, they were in HSU’s

You can see a bunch of ‘em cracked open, and they’re what we start out in, on the elevator

Simplest way I can think to put it is people storage

If you’re familiar with cryostasis, think that but water (hydro-)

[knotty sphinx]

It is simply a storage system, yes

[craggy orbit]

Regardless, the conditions at the end of D2 definitely do beg some important questions, as you’ve observed

[burnt sequoia]

oh now i understand

thanks!

so they took 4 of those HSUs that were originally used for biological experiment purposes and turned them into a transportation to send us down.

that's why we are so nervous everytime they drop us in the beginning. i hear my character crying like a baby.

because we know what the pods actually are. We recall bad memories of being guinea pigs.

Also i noticed that there are 3 types of HSUs in that room according to the sizes. Small, medium, and large. It is just so weird.

[craggy orbit]

Well, if you didn't play R2/3, we actually got to carry around one of the small ones in R2E1 and for a bunch of R3 as an objective item

[brazen lava]

Oh d1 is going to be one of those reactors isnt it

Where i need to run around looking for seperate terminals

[atomic escarp]

yep

[brazen lava]

At least tell me the alarm ends after so i can do extreme in peace

[atomic escarp]

yep

[brazen lava]

Oh thank god. Gonna be honest error alarms are probably my least favorite mechanic by far

[atomic escarp]

Imagine

A reactor wave of giants and shooters

: ^ )

just hybrids and giant chargers

sounds more fun

[brazen lava]

Two tanks and a mother

[atomic escarp]

THe catch is

It ramps up

yes

Like

Wave 1 has strikers, a few giants, and shooters

Wave 2 has giants and shooters only

Wave 3 gets chargers and 2 hybrids

ricardo didn't i do d2pe with you 2 days ago

Wave 4 giant chargers, chargers and a few hybrids

We did

was a funny triangle door 😏

: ^ )

I hope you enjoyed me being the floor warmer in the team

hey man

u got the scouts we're good

Not enough

Never enough

lets run d2pe again but faster

wr speedrun

[brazen lava]

D1 is extreme is officially the most obnoxious thing yet

[dreamy bramble]

heh

[mortal granite]

D1 extreme is like

it's just

there

[dreamy bramble]

it can be a pain in the ass if you don't look through the window

[forest horizon]

"yet"

[candid dragon]

"yeet"

[mellow creek]

i swear the updates is getting slower and lesser by the days

[turbid cliff]

Not that we ever had frequent updates

[burnt sequoia]

@craggy orbit what do u think is in one of those small HSU?

[dreamy bramble]

a baby

hence neonate hsu

[brazen lava]

Man this isnt right. The entire first area of d2 didnt have any sleepers. Extra erie

[turbid cliff]

Technically the first area of every map doesn't have sleepers 🤔

[brazen lava]

I mean up to needing to insert a bulkhead key

[barren notch]

first area of d2 is always empty

[pliant shard]

Have you seen d1 ext be done in 90 seconds?

[pliant shard]

That’s intended. The first 3 zones of high are empty

[atomic escarp]

3rd zone has sleepers (and a scout)

[brazen lava]

D2 started fun. But now that im dealing with a perma shadow swarm in fog i think im just gonna go play some wot

[barren notch]

You need to clear 710, then extreme, put the cells in and rush high, then grab cargo and carry it to extraction. It can be done with setting up a lot of mines as you go back to grab cargo

[dreamy bramble]

it's beneficial to not kill the shadows when running, so they cap out behind you

just kill the ones who get in your way, and let the ones who are far out fill up the enemy cap

extract becomes a breeze, and you can mine up the last hallway before extract if you want to lighten the wave

shadows are very slow, so you can outrun them pretty easily as long as you shut some doors behind you (and whatever leftover foam can be used to increase the gap between you and them)

[brazen lava]

yeah i'll probably re attempt later. it was just more effort than i was willing to invest that early in the morning

[shy vessel]

shadows are very slow, so you can outrun them pretty easily as long as you shut some doors behind you
and they don't spawn in front of you

[mortal granite]

they do

[shy vessel]

I meant that as an addition to shadows are very slow, so you can outrun them pretty easily as long as you shut some doors behind you, should have made that more clear

[mortal granite]

but still can spawn infront of you

[dreamy bramble]

he means when they're spawn capped, they will be stuck behind and no more will spawn ahead

[mortal granite]

ok

[shy vessel]

I'm basically trying to say until they are spawn capped, they can and do tend to spawn in front of you which is something to keep in mind if you are traversing the fog sections at low HP

[high forge]

I hope we will get some more leaks, the 28 it's gonna be 2 months since the last leak of R5

[mortal granite]

it's been a month

time to update roadmap

or the rundown already done d0c

[high forge]

what i mean is that in 10 days it's gonna be 2 months since the last leak we had

Ngl the coffee machine is not really a leak

[dreamy bramble]

technically we got door pics lol

but i'd love to see something more substantial

[high forge]

i'm lacking my dose of leaks

[shy vessel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753163312216408065/810077592102502410/unknown.png

[mortal granite]

nice

[high forge]

[shy vessel]

throw back to r3 being out for a month and the roadmap saying they were still working on d-tier

[brazen lava]

I'd rather a slower release so people actually have time to finish the rundowns to be honest

If we cant go back we need an actual window to do it

[dreamy bramble]

it's been nearly 5 months lol

people have had time to complete the rundown

[high forge]

Exactly

[brazen lava]

Oh i know, im just refering in general instead of r4 specifically

[mortal granite]

even the guy bought the game early march have beat it

[high forge]

If in 5 months you didn't have time.....

[mortal granite]

you either didn't play the game or didn't buy it

[high forge]

[meager sapphire]

It's kinda compensating too much for people who join mid rundown

[brazen lava]

Not everyone plays public. Or can get a group of friends together consistently to be fair. Not everyone is a big enough nerd to actually join a games discord and spend time theory crafting and such lol

[dreamy bramble]

i doubt they're just sitting on r5, i assume the dev cycle is just taking a while

[brazen lava]

I'd say people who join discords for a specific game are a minority over all

[high forge]

In the end it's better for them, they can begin a whole new rundown with other people

[dreamy bramble]

i'd like more than 1 real r5 leak in 5 months tho

[mortal granite]

MM is not suited for GTFO

[turbid cliff]

Nobody even mentioned mm here

[mortal granite]

it's like one of those World of warcraft custom game

[brazen lava]

A group of irl friends you play with in games a lot not just gtfo is ideal

[turbid cliff]

Yes but then they gotta watch basketball every second day and can't play kekw

[dreamy bramble]

i haven't been able to get any irl friends in to the game cause they find it too hard :/

[meager sapphire]

Games a huge time commitment

[dreamy bramble]

the one guy who probably would get into it is too trapped in destiny to want to try something new

[meager sapphire]

Sometimes you play 2 hour run with friends, you die, you all go to bed.

[high forge]

Same for me, none of my friends want to play it

[meager sapphire]

And no one wants to play after that

[brazen lava]

Yeah its a lot easier to launch drg or valheim than sit down for an expedition

2+ hours of effecient communication and a well oiled machine of cooperation is a lot to ask of most people

[dreamy bramble]

most of my irl friends play competitive shooters or other pvp games

so it's not really the coordination or time commitment, just the style of game

[meager sapphire]

Wait this is spoiler chat

[dreamy bramble]

eh

[atomic escarp]

Ya'll have friends and play the game?

[dreamy bramble]

it's not like anyone is using the chat anyways

[brazen lava]

This channel is more of a general chat at the best of times

[obtuse surge]

coomer comms > efficient communication

[brazen lava]

I dont think ive ever actually seen a mod type in this server personally

I also mostly tune in at like 3 am. So maybe their just sleeping lmao

[obtuse surge]

[brazen lava]

In all seriousness though this is a better general anyway because its hard to talk about much outside of plain tactics without it being a spoiler for certain expeditions

[shy vessel]

it takes a certain type of person to lose a multi hour run and instantly want to go another round

[brazen lava]

Most questions would be like "whats the optimal strat for X level"

[shy vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423394643879788557/822063022658551828/gone_reduced_to_ashes.mp4

[still geyser]

What is the highest Class/Cluster alarm in the current rundown?

[knotty sphinx]

Probably a class 6

[robust marsh]

class 6 is the most

[still geyser]

I see, thanks 👍

[robust marsh]

sadly they didn't give us class 9 back ):

[hoary garden]

theres a class vi regular, cluster and S1 in this rundown

[robust marsh]

is there?

where

[hoary garden]

b2 overload has a class vi

[knotty sphinx]

D2 and E1

[still geyser]

d2

[hoary garden]

d2 has class vi clusters

e1 has class vi S1

[solemn wigeon]

Class XII When?

[still geyser]

class VI S1 ?????????

holy....

[robust marsh]

laughs from reading the number wrong

REEEEEEEEEEE

[hoary garden]

nah the classed s1's are actually really easy

[robust marsh]

they are

[knotty sphinx]

laughs in r5 wait stress

[still geyser]

so you do a class 6 and then a S1?

[robust marsh]

fr fr

[hoary garden]

its six s1 scans

but they go by fast

like

[still geyser]

ooooooh

ok

[hoary garden]

regular big red scan fast

[still geyser]

there was a class 9 ????

[robust marsh]

R2

[hoary garden]

r2b1 pre-nerf had a class ix

[still geyser]

jesus

[robust marsh]

if they give us a class 9 now we can handle it smh

just give us ammo and a big room

[knotty sphinx]

That would have been a very stressful solo

[hoary garden]

yeah

r2b1 class ix was a very big room

[knotty sphinx]

That class 7 was bad enough lol

[robust marsh]

oh ya i forgot ppl solo stuff

[knotty sphinx]

Nothing will ever be balanced for it

But that doesn't stop people from trying

xD

[robust marsh]

even class 9 is not good enough if they give us a big room with ammo we all can do class 12

even solo

[still geyser]

👀

[robust marsh]

but its kiting only for solos sadly ):

[robust marsh]

what?

[still geyser]

i am always impressed how you can solo these levels, I have a small group (and we all are not that good) and die a lot in some hard missions. then seeing someone soloing the PE is nuts xD

[knotty sphinx]

It would be more impressive if one didn't have to abuse specific mechanics to do so though

[mortal granite]

solo and not kiting?

[robust marsh]

agree

[mortal granite]

what is this, a speedrun?

[knotty sphinx]

Solo and not scout trigger manip

[still geyser]

but is that a legit way to play? or are these some mods/hacks that they use?

[knotty sphinx]

It's called triggering scouts for max enemy cap to not have to deal with chargers

But you can get unlucky like me and get 2 giants per scout trigger

xD

[still geyser]

i thought it has been patched?

[mortal granite]

nope