tfw roadmap updates
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
pseudo pumice
robust marsh
.t roadmap
jaunty hedgeBOT
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap
hollow vault
can we have a tier f ?
glass sundial
System updates 
Idk about you guys but that sounds like new mechanics, or fundamental changes to existing ones. i.e., how infection made a huge change to the game
nocturne flax
February release date
fierce crag
February release date
I'm thinking late March for the release of R5
livid stone
or maybe finally fixing some issues like body boosting
west crow
oh dear they forgot to put ";)" at the end of the "will not be revealed"
rundown 5 is cursed
shrewd flume
When are the devs going to show off their speed run strats?
thorn shore
more objectives !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
woeful vector
No way
livid stone
you are seeing it in action, theyre speedrunning making gtfo
this is their first attempt, next will be GTFO 2
robust marsh
this is their first attempt, next will be GTFO 2
I.....Hm.....mhm....i have....walks away
granite token
In B3 PE, should you clear every room of enemies?
craggy orbit
Depends, some just aren’t worth it
In theory, you don’t have to clear any rooms more than two rooms away from alarm points
granite token
Yeah, we colossally screwed big time by one of our teammates waking up the entire room then cause a chain reaction
to those we just stealth our way thorugh
60 enemies
craggy orbit
Packed rooms suck, yeah. Where exactly was it, if you know/remember?
granite token
B3 Overload
the room is full of them
the room once you enter b3 overload bulkhead
obtuse cedar
You have to clear that overload room since you have another S1 alarm in that room. And another alarm in one the the side room
granite token
i see thanks
obtuse cedar
The rooms you can sneak in B3 are the extreme zone where the big ennemies are. You only have to clear the first room of the 1st alarm door of extreme (middle door) (right door being the overload bulkhead)
granite token
Thanks!
velvet flower
Hybrid, birther, tank. They do always have new enemies.
mortal granite
baby striker evolve into normal striker and start shooting bullet
nocturne flax
cAPTAIN aLPHA
mortal granite
BLACK dRAGON
hollow matrix
Charger scout pl0x
granite scarab
baby scoot >:)
terse relic
Mother that spawns scouts and turns into an invisible giant charger when woken up
calm coral
They are kinda out of *reasonable* variations to extend to existing enemies, yea...
hmmm maybe
they could still do shadow chargers
craggy orbit
That’s like, borderline too far imo
Like, I can see it being done, but I dunno if it should be done
I’m talking about existing modifiers to existing enemies
Like, I think we’re definitely getting entirely new things next rundown, unless they go wild and do shadow chargers and big tanks
craggy orbit
Whether the new things will be new enemies entirely or new variations of existing enemies, who knows yet
Shadow shooters don’t exist for a reason, I wouldn’t want it on hybrids either
soft kraken
rundown map says new enemies not new enemy variations so 🤷
craggy orbit
Previous entries on the roadmap have mentioned new enemy variations and then given us flat-out new enemies
So I dunno how much stock I’d put in the exact phrasing there
light totem
Never
Imagine making shadow shooters. But giving it a shadow striker model
Oh wait
shadow scoot
Kekw
craggy orbit
We’ll see what happens, I’m not gonna say for sure it’s gonna go either way
Evidence leans towards no new variations, but I wouldn’t call it impossible
light totem
Cring
pliant shard
I mean it is a very vague roadmap atm
light totem
Just make bombers
pliant shard
So who knows what they will add
craggy orbit
Flying enemies when
light totem
:O
When the gunplay gets better
Do you really want to have flying enemies when you already shoot peas
craggy orbit
I think if they’re used right, yeah
Maybe similar to how chargers mostly only appear during blood doors
light totem
craggy orbit
Aggressively mixing them into terrestrial hordes sounds bad though
light totem
Why not charger surge waves
calm coral
man I wanna play but I never know WHAT to play
light totem
:)
calm coral
rammers who insta knock down a door
craggy orbit
Oh god no
craggy orbit
”Wait, that’s illegal”
light totem
Kekw
calm coral
practically never been in these channels
light totem
F
craggy orbit
Month or two, methinks
thorn briar
Hey all,
So, what were your key insights/strategies that helped you beat the E1 alarm?
Lately we're running 1BC, 1MG, sniper and a revolver/shotgun, 3 auto-sentries. We're currently struggling to get past the 3rd alarm. The main issue seems that we're very dependent on random hybrid and ammo spawns.
So far what has helped is the realization that Tanks don't spawn during scans, so we try to reach the second alarm before the 2nd 'daddy' comes. That kinda gives us an extra minute or so.
forest horizon
Hey all,
So, what were your key insights/strategies that helped you beat the E1 ...
How do you set up for the 3rd alarm?
thorn briar
we usually setup 1 auto-turret with roughly 20-30% ammo and leave the door open that brings then down the ladder
but we've managed to get there only 3 times so far, we're usually dying on our way there
forest horizon
Thats how most groups do it
thorn briar
yep, we've had a look through a couple of Capt. Alpha's videos, but damn, it seems like a piece of cake for them 😄
I'd say it takes us roughly 10 attempts to get to the 3rd alarm, I'm kinda scared how long it will take to get past the rest of the level
forest horizon
I would say at least 1 more BC, mines and bio is almost essential
vapid moon
I'd say it takes us roughly 10 attempts to get to the 3rd alarm, I'm kinda scare...
dont worry, the alarm portion is the hard part
forest horizon
Although for the alarm part just the sentries matter
thorn briar
my thoughts are also getting another BC
ye, we dumped mines to help us get past the first part
vapid moon
2-3 burst cannons is good
forest horizon
How many tank spawns do you get by the times you got to the 3rd scan?
thorn briar
usually 3
vapid moon
your on time then
forest horizon
Yeah I was gonna say
thorn briar
but we don't waste time on running through the whole 457 in search of ammo
if we find ammo on the run - great, but we rarely have time to ping for it
forest horizon
You guys aren't wasting time and your overall strategy is fine since obviously you already did your own research
thorn briar
btw, has anyone tried using sniper turrets against the tank?
forest horizon
For the second a third zone you should have someone ping ammo while 2 people move the cells up while helping the last person clear rooms
You don't even need them to constantly ping it either
thorn briar
ye, we just need to know the area to look in
pliant shard
@thorn briar if you want a guide check out “R4E1 prisoners guide” by plant. Takes you through a strategy that worked for him
forest horizon
Still though, kind of curious how you guys are dying since it seems like you're playing pretty efficient
pliant shard
Lays out rooms and what stuff to bring / what to be prepared for and includes extreme strats too
forest horizon
I second that guide as well
thorn briar
<@412676445123510282> if you want a guide check out “R4E1 prisoners guide” by pl...
seen that one already! was just wondering what else made it work for you 🙂
pliant shard
Main factor in success is how many tanks you fight. Faster you kill him, more time you get, less ammo you use
forest horizon
Tbh thats really the best strategies since plant is basically a god
pliant shard
Take time when you kill tank to find resos because those are your life line
The first zone has a 4 use ammo, second zone has a 6 use. Use those as Much as you can to kill tank
thorn briar
so far I'd say 8 ammo uses is just fine to get us through
forest horizon
Yeah thats fair
thorn briar
hard to imagine how people manage to get past the first part solo/duo!
forest horizon
Killing the first tank somehow then capping the wave so the next tank never spawns
thorn briar
ah, so capping other enemies also works on the tank, nice!
must have been hell kiting in the fog
forest horizon
Yeah if you look at E1 speedruns they do the same thing
thorn briar
but doesn't he then spawn once you kill the first few strikers?
forest horizon
I'm not sure exactly how many need to go down before its possible for a tank to spawn
leaden star
isn't that fix already? my team fail to capping. tank still spawn no matter how we try
idk if we do it wrong
thorn briar
afaik, the cap is 25 or so, maybe you're just running a few short?
leaden star
im open S1 door immediately after kill 1st tank so enemy should be capped by the time 2nd tank spawn?
thorn briar
not necessarily, maybe if you avoid killing any enemies at all, in that case the cap might be reached
but so far the only way to avoid the 2nd tank was to run the 2nd alarm before his spawn
leaden star
yeah. we didnt kill a single enemy except tank
thorn briar
hm, interesting, will keep that in mind for our runs
pliant shard
The speedruns strat is not recommended for random LFG groups as it takes a little bit of coordination. My team w/ speedruns took anywhere from 20-40 resets before we got it working. But the basics is kill tank -> rush alarm -> finish scan -> open door -> pull second sustain -> get wave spawn around 80-90% (will be max cap) -> open second door and keep running to the 3rd sustain cfoaming pretty much most doors you run through -> pull next sustain -> put cells in
Pretty much at max cap enemies the whole wave and tank won’t spawn ever on 3rd sustain as the surge alarm spawns overrides the error spawn.
Best way to do it for people that don’t want to speedrun though is to kill tank, clear rooms, find ammo, do alarm scan, rinse and repeat until you get to the final surge sustain
thorn briar
The speedruns strat is not recommended for random LFG groups as it takes a littl...
that's what we're aiming for so far
pliant shard
Do you guys get overrun by enemies? What happens on the 3rd sustain?
thorn briar
depends on enemy spawns in that last zone
it's common that we spend to much time killing the hybrids/strikers that another tank spawns before we reach the final sustain
and since we don't run any cfoams, the doors get broken fast
pliant shard
That’s usually fine when another tanks spawns before the last sustain. You don’t really need cfoam on the way toward the generators so no need to worry about that tool atm. If you need to slow down in the last 457 zone by all means do
Last thing you want is hybrids and a tank that is a death combo
Usually what I do in pugs is clear a-I if we can then fight tank then clear the scan room
Do you guys have someone with a timer or keep track of tank spawns?
thorn briar
ye, we have the timer running
imo it takes us to much time to kill the tank, sometimes could even take up to 2 minutes, which is way to long
sometimes we end him in 20 secs
pliant shard
Yeah anything above 2 minutes gives you little time to progress
pliant shard
sometimes we end him in 20 secs
Those are the satisfying kills haha
Any strats that you guys use / dedicated rooms to fight him in?
if you’re struggling in 457 zone I/K (the open room before 3rd sustain scan) is one of the best
thorn briar
well, we try to surround him, but it's common that he just stands with his back to the wall
I have some doubts on the weapons we select for the 2nd slot
one of us has a sniper, I'm not quite sure how the tank's balls work, but I have a feeling that most of the sniper damage gets wasted by only popping one ball at a time
pliant shard
Not too sure about the health but sniper wastes a lot of ammo. You need 80% to kill small momma w/ sniper so not the most effective gun
I would recommend the BC instead of sniper if you want a tank killer
forest horizon
At least 2 burst cannons are highly recommended
Probably the best boss killing weap
thorn briar
am trying to convince the team to run 2/3 BCs 😄
nocturne flax
Go in clear room ---- deal with tank
when your team splits up too much dealing many task its where tank kills takes long
if you have lets say 3 people clearing the room the tank just woke up i the first 30 seconds of the game
it would be a lot more smoother
IF theres a lot of enemies
pliant shard
Is that blackdragon224 the biotracker guy from YouTube?
thorn briar
when your team splits up too much dealing many task its where tank kills takes l...
yea, that's something we need to work on, sometimes 1-2 players are out scouting for ammo/moving cells
errant vigil
damn it's poopiehead224 
thorn briar
so far I think we have the theory, just need more time polishing it
pliant shard
yea, that's something we need to work on, sometimes 1-2 players are out scouting...
My recommendation is to move cells as close as you can -> have someone hop on term and find all ammos and tools so you can avoid unnecessary rooms -> regroup w/ 15-30s to next spawn
nocturne flax
damn it's poopiehead224 <:moon2SH:687811514127876187>
poopieaimztriw >: ^ )
errant vigil
ammo in first zone isn't really necessary
starting ammo and ammos in next zone should be enough
thorn briar
My recommendation is to move cells as close as you can -> have someone hop on te...
tried that multiple times, have some doubts so far as it occupies one player of a while. Perhaps use the terminal in 456 or 457
pliant shard
Yeah forgot to mention skip z455
Z456 has a nice term up in fog where you can instantly go up there
thorn briar
Yeah forgot to mention skip z455
learned that the hard way
forest horizon
Should only take like 15 seconds to have a general idea where the ammo is
pliant shard
learned that the hard way
Like we all do 
nocturne flax
after you finish the alarm you can probably go back and ping the ammo in the starting zone, but its best to push in to move cells and take the ammo from the next area
thorn briar
Should only take like 15 seconds to have a general idea where the ammo is
just hope it's not in the far rooms, we try to keep them closed
forest horizon
For the second zone, yeah lol
errant vigil
The only terminal that's not out of the way is z456 and z458 technically
thorn briar
after you finish the alarm you can probably go back and ping the ammo in the sta...
after finishing the alarm... 😉
nocturne flax
you can memorize some of the boxes in the dig site area and go for them after alarm to check on them real quick IF you really need them
errant vigil
but you want to get cells in and get out of z458 as soon as you can
forest horizon
I think as long as every person knows what they need to do in each zone then it should go smoothly
Who does the terminal, who moves the cells, when and where you plan to fight the tank, etc
Communicating a lot helps
thorn briar
Who does the terminal, who moves the cells, when and where you plan to fight the...
we do have a few favorite spots to kill the tank, but don't usually have dedicated cell carriers, the one with better position picks it up
forest horizon
That works too
nocturne flax
the burst canons dont carry cell
errant vigil
I'd say don't try to go for ammos in subzone I of z456 if there's one out of it just fill up the BC and take out the tank if you can
forest horizon
Whatever works for you guys as long as you don't go too long without moving the cells
nocturne flax
and if you have bio ||wich you probably should|| put it one of the burst canon users
forest horizon
By the time the second tank spawns you should be able to get the cells very close to the second alarm door
thorn briar
and if you have bio ||wich you probably should|| put it one of the burst canon u...
yea, we do have one!
forest horizon
If you do have rng problems with lots of sleeping hybrids (3+ in the same room) BC helps a lot with clear it out fast
Honestly BC is just super op
thorn briar
If you do have rng problems with lots of sleeping hybrids (3+ in the same room) ...
maybe, so far we've been mainly hammering them, that might be one of the time drainers
errant vigil
Yea people forget BC is a very good special killer
nocturne flax
tank breaks door and screams
4 hybrids zooming into your position and there's fireworks everywhere
errant vigil
Revo on bigs 👀
nocturne flax
quiet stone
there are 2
shrewd flume
love it
thorn briar
that feeling when you solo D2 overload and die from a shadow striker at the very end >_<
atomic escarp
When die at giant charger room in D2 solo
granite scarab
masochism
heady dew
That overload is the most hardest and scary difficult ive seen in A2, first the audio from bucklehead door "Warning Threat OVERLOAD " looks like is death talking to you, and even I did extreme A2 with a friend only , a duo, we couldn't handle that overload
atomic escarp
You have to rush scouts in overload to make it a bit less stressful
A3 overload is a bit harder and more fun
Especially after you do its objective
granite scarab
thanks richardo : )
rancid basalt
how do the spawns work in d2?
granite scarab
which part
rancid basalt
the very end of overload we got some chargers
we didn't drop the cargo or anything
atomic escarp
Like on extract?
rancid basalt
yeah on extrack
atomic escarp
I had chargers on D2 overload on extract
Maybe chargers get mixed with shadows when you're on extract and killed enough for the game to spawn more enemies
I might be wrong on this tho
granite scarab
when you go inside extract, if you arent max spawned with shadows chargers can spawn
heady dew
You have to rush scouts in overload to make it a bit less stressful
But it won't end very well.
errant saffron
Does max spawn affect only waves or the room spawns also?
atomic escarp
But it won't end very well.
It'll end better when you rush killing scouts rather than having the error waves alert them
atomic escarp
Door between the first and the second room in A2 overload always has an hacking lock
so If both scouts spawn in the second and/or third room it's a bit hard to rush to one of them
In any event yes, rushing to one of them and burst cannoning is probably your best bet
west crow
Burst cannon 🤤
crimson onyx
its being removed in rundown 5 😳
atomic escarp
Too overtuned ngl
west crow
I do my part in using the dmr so it bloats weapon usage statistics and it'll one day be removed due to the misconception of it being meta
obtuse surge
rundown specific gavel
west crow
it'd be a glorious day reading those patch notes
west crow
rundown specific fov slider
woeful vector
Shut up nerd
obtuse cedar
oof still slightly under 100
fine i'll bump it 5 above what i'm using @light totem 😛
forest horizon
55 is for actual pros
mighty pond
Nobody good uses below 100
Laughs in the Korean group that does speedruns and shit has people who use default still and are plenty good at the game.
obtuse cedar
yuck 55 is so bad. i played at 55 for so long and i couldn't go back now. the games jsut feel slow
mighty pond
55 isn't even that bad
Go play at 20 🙂
I still think default should be at least 70, but 55 by comparison to what they offer is not horrible
atomic escarp
90 FOV would be a decent default FOV
heavy wave
I always play with 90 to keep up with the max FOV on siege
So i stay with the same speed overall in my games
mighty pond
90 FOV would be a decent default FOV
It would be, but if they were to increase it 55 to 90 would be a huge leap. I really only recommend 70 so that the game isn't completely disorienting for those who would be impacted by it.
Plus it's a nice number that allows people to notice the difference that FOV can make and allows them to explore their own number they want to settle with
obtuse cedar
Heh 55 to 90 isn't that big of a difference tbh. It does make the game look way faster though
robust marsh
||as someone that got his FOV up 2 days ago i can agree||
mighty pond
55 to 90 is quite a difference for someone unaccustomed to changing their FOV.
granite scarab
If you don’t go instantly from 2 months of 55 to using 120 you are objectively wrong
You must suffer through the pain for about 7 hours
Survival of the fittest
hoary garden
bumps into every giant they try to stealth cuz they arent used to the fov
vapid moon
aren't sleepers supposed to scream before they alert others>?
hoary garden
if you wake one in close proximity to another they can be woken w/o scream
craggy orbit
They can wake ones in close proximity up when they wake up, yeah
Prevents you from abusing the fact that meleeing an aggro'd sleeper doesn't alert anything
vapid moon
yeah but these guys are waking up like a few meters away, and there are ones closer that didnt wake up
craggy orbit
They're more sensitive when they're glowing, and I believe there's some weird stuff with the direction they're facing, but I'm not sure
vapid moon
huh, mustve been glowing then cause this has been consistantly happening for the past couple of days
never had this happen before
craggy orbit
It can be tricky to make sure none of them are glowing lmao
Hope you like using that flashlight
hoary garden
you can also sync with crouch if you're close enough c:
craggy orbit
Truuee
nocturne flax
55 fov its only really good when your playing a single player game, it lets you appreciate all the little details you can see
I would still change the value a little bit higher to not get motion sickeness
errant vigil
Where is 180 fov I want to be fish
frail zinc
west crow
55 fov its only really good when your playing a single player game, it lets you ...
I'd rather have situational awareness than appreciate the finer details of a strikers ass crack
I wouldn't mind the dmr if it had a slightly better ammo economy
I wouldn't really mind people using the weapon if they actually shot at things
A lot of people take the support role and do absolutely nothing with it
hollow socket
In B2, for the overload part, can you put 3 cells in the generators so the fog is lowered enough ?
Or you don't put any cell so the fog isn't here ?
west crow
It's not even just dmr mains, auto pistol mains are just as bad
What are they being ammo conscious for
mortal granite
In B2, for the overload part, can you put 3 cells in the generators so the fog i...
if you're doing high, yes
if you're doing overload, no
hoary garden
In B2, for the overload part, can you put 3 cells in the generators so the fog i...
dont put any cell
you'll have to suffer through the fog in the upper zone >:)
3 cells wont lower the fog enough
west crow
It's not so bad
hollow socket
dont put any cell
Thanks a lot, I wanted to try it myself but I can't do that solo xD
And I don't want to drag a group is this
Thanks Capt too 😉
turbid cliff
8 striker kills per refill is plenty good economy for a primary if you ask me
light totem
For what. Dmr?
@west crow wdym Autopistol mains are just as bad
One of the ideal Dmr changes:
Damage remains the same
Precision from like 1.0>1.25
Stagger to like 2.0
Fire delay from 0.2? (I forget off hand what it is) > 0.12
But lower it’s mag from 12>10
Overall ammo to 10/50 (aka exactly one mag per refill)
And increase its vertical recoil scale
west crow
8 striker kills per refill is plenty good economy for a primary if you ask me
compared to the ar's 13 and the carbine's 18?
mortal granite
congratulation
light totem
Kill efficiency is never based off multiplier damage
mortal granite
you just create a first ever, primary gun
that can 1 shot kill scout from 30 meter away
light totem
Lmao. No >:)
mortal granite
yes you did
west crow
even if you raised the precision multiplier it wouldn't kill a scout
mortal granite
it will
west crow
it wouldn't
mortal granite
right now, it dealt 40 damage
west crow
the amount to raise it so that it one shots strikers would not one shot scouts
mortal granite
then 1.1
light totem
1.1 multiplier won’t
mortal granite
1.2 will kill scout
light totem
Yeah
mortal granite
even Hel revolver are not that powerful
light totem
I don’t want to do math. Ree
8.0 base damage
But yeah. I know the precision it’s 5.5 pre multiplier or so
Gross
Rifle was 0.18 I remember
Rifle was pog
west crow
just shove the gun in your face
light totem
Especially when sped up. It’s like the good ole honey badger from ghost
west crow
r1 assault rifle reload
nocturne flax
I like the viewmodel for dmr in r1
west crow
are you talking about the reload?
nocturne flax
its lower
west crow
it's the same
light totem
^
west crow
that definitely existed
frail zinc
new lore.
mossy yoke
Same voice actors, new recordings
mossy yoke
R4://Extended://Extended
frail zinc
just keeps on growing
light totem
So warden. 20.1x5x4 for BC VS 60x2
So yeah
402 vs 120 a mag
Sniper needs some hardcore changes
It’s versatility is almost nothing. Giving it some pierce and stagger. And back to 3/12 ammo would be perfect probably
atomic escarp
5/10
light totem
Also buffing giant charger stagger resistance to like 300 damage so sniper is one of the few things that can stagger it effectively
west crow
wouldn't the sniper need a precision modifier to do enough damage to stagger?
west crow
you want the sniper to do 300 damage body?
light totem
What
Like 3.0 stagger.
At the same damage
Maybe a bit more but the point is the same
astral ivy
hey can anyone unban dikupyamoo he was banned for no reason i dont know who banned him
nocturne flax
Contact mod mail
atomic escarp
Talk to the mods in @jaunty hedge
bold widget
yo
is this a bug or something
bonking a scout you get the orange marker and he still screams
even thoe I am the host
queen field
Was she on a ladder ?
bold widget
no
errant vigil
It's known happens sometimes
obtuse cedar
If you are the host it seems like scout killing is less reliable. No clue why.
turbid cliff
haven't seen that since R1
pliant shard
Usually means there was some sort of desync. I’ve seen it happen once
turbid cliff
Usually means there was some sort of desync. I’ve seen it happen once
Desync for the host
atomic escarp
109775241024095383
atomic escarp
Use the LFG channels : ^ )
pliant shard
Use the LFG channels : ^ )
You didn’t say kindly this time. Is it a not kindly request now??
robust marsh
yus
atomic escarp
You didn’t say kindly this time. Is it a not kindly request now??
Mayhaps
hoary garden
"I am no longer asking" - Ricardo, probably
nocturne flax
Hes asking violently now
still geyser
Hi! Got a question regarding Scouts 🙂
I know that Scounts need to be oneshot (or hammered) in order not to scream. But If they are C-Foamed with e.g. a C-Foam grenade, do I also need kill them one shot then? Or could I just shoot at it's head with a combat shotgun as long as it takes to explode?
grand bay
i think you need to oneshot them. i tried this sometimes ago and failed to kill it, but someone more experimented could confirm
nocturne flax
yes its still need a full charge
turbid cliff
Missed the point of the question
No you don't need to one shot foamed scouts, as long as they die before being unfoamed, it's fine
And technically you don't need to oneshot scouts at all
robust marsh
Hi! Got a question regarding Scouts 🙂
I know that Scounts need to be oneshot (o...
combat 2 shots in the body so i think it doesn't matter
the cfoam wont let it scream
so you can body shot it as well
turbid cliff
combat 2 shots in the body so i think it doesn't matter
From behind
still geyser
Thanks! I appreciate it 🙂
granite token
What is the proper defense for S1 Alarm Blood Door B3 Overload?
dreamy bramble
auto sentries can be placed close to the players so that you can shoot the sleepers while they stagger
and sniper sentries can be placed near the spawn points to thin out the waves a bit
most of the defense for that s1 is on being able to shoot well enough
digital dawn
If you also manage to keep both large doors to your sides intact and closed and also the 2 smaller doors in the room are opened (depending on which zone you had to open earlier), you will block of an extra route they could have used to attack you from the side.
This rly helps because everybody can focus on your front.
hoary garden
What is the proper defense for S1 Alarm Blood Door B3 Overload?
Save both large doors to the side of you while doing the alarms to the side zones for the keycard.
All enemies will therefore approach you from the front.
I find auto sentries to be the most useful since sniper sentries tend not to have enough target time to really do much damage.
Hold on to the sentries and place them down in the front of where the S1 scan appears.
Just fill up the sleepers with lead and you should be fine. Autopistol can be useful for S1 scans.
granite token
Thanks a lot for the help! 🙂
What is the best method for the side door alarms in overload - c foam or kiting?
dreamy bramble
kiting is pretty much always the best option but it's so boring
so i always go back to foam + mines
granite token
the big doors?
dreamy bramble
they will spawn either outside the overload bulkhead or the first room of the side room
pliant shard
Bunny hop in gtfo is just sprint and hit space bar. Just have to get a feel for it
On b3 overload they usually go for the small door on the bottom, so if you cfoam and mine you should be able to finish scans as they break the door. If not you can refoam
For kiting you usually want to run to the left or right of them while trying to move left or right (with your mouse to move left right not A or D) when you hear the tounge attack starting
obtuse surge
those spawns aren't right
for the 2nd S1 the wave spawns in A of whatever side-zone you opened, like you said, but the 2nd spawn option is actually all the way back 2 zones
because behind the overload bulkhead, that's still just 1 room away
this is why the 2nd S1 actually has a shit ton of rng to it
because that spawn is so much further away
they spawn where you did the regular security scan
or in A of one of the cryo zones if you opened that
tardy pollen
Hey I'm trying to get some practice in killing scouts, is there any level that has them very early on? I don't have e1 unlocked
hoary garden
A3 Zone 28, no alarms needed. (1 Scout + Sleepers)
B3 Extreme zone, need to collect bulkhead key. (2 scouts + sleepers inside bulkhead, 2 more scouts + sleepers after security scan)
B2 Extreme zone, need to collect bulkhead key + start error alarm. (2 scouts by themselves)
tardy pollen
Oh wow thank you so much!
woeful vector
C2 has the six scout room but you need to do a stage four and stage three alarm
mighty pond
C2 isn't something worthwhile to do to practice scouts
Unless you want to practice shadow scouts maybe, but even then just go do D2 Overload lol
mighty pond
/gamemode creative ez
shrewd flume
I've never seen a recommendation so big brain before
vapid moon
i miss the old 12-13 scout temple from r2d1
was it r2d1 or r2d2? r2d2 is the reactor right?
atomic escarp
That's THE first multi scout room you encounter
vapid moon
r2c1 had the original scout temple
shrewd flume
does anyone know if there is a write up on all possible scenarios that lead to a sleeper screeching? sometimes they randomly screech and I want to know what triggers that.
It's not just LOS
didn't find that on the wiki
This is different from alerts. Alerting sleepers is well documented.
harsh pelican
They just do it randomly if you're in the same room as them
west crow
They will tend to scream if you're in the same room
harsh pelican
speaking of, do mothers/babies scream?
west crow
That's a good question
harsh pelican
this gives me a brilliant idea
vapid moon
does anyone know if there is a write up on all possible scenarios that lead to a...
if your withen 2 rooms of the enemy, it will scream randomly or when it breaks a door
mighty pond
It can scream from more than two rooms
It's likely more radius dependent than area dependent
Enemies that are closer to players however are more likely to scream
From what I have noticed at least
shrewd flume
From what I have noticed at least
I've had similar experiences. Going to look into it tomorrow. for something that seems so critical to preventing there isn't a lot written on it
light totem
Cause it’s all random time based depending on enemy type
turbid cliff
it's not exactly random
e.g. it's very common for alerted enemies to attack first and then scream
and it always seems to be only one enemy screaming
during error alarms that actually helps, alerted enemies in the room you're clearing don't scream as much
i also noticed that door breaking behaves something like that too, thanks to all the uplinks
if they're breaking several doors, they only hit one at a time, there's clearly a global cooldown on it
light totem
Yeah
frail zinc
if one enemy already screamed no other enemy will scream
dapper dagger
by the way the first scream of a sleeper is the only time it can wake up a room
if you bring a sleeper to another room and it has already screamed, then it wont wake up the room
obtuse cedar
Time to shove ennemies out of a room.. let it scream then shove him back in for the second scream to confirm this
turbid cliff
never heard of that one before but apparently it's a thing
probably a bug but interesting 🤔
how does that even happen
light totem
No clue. I’ve never heard of that either
heady dew
I have a nice spoiler for you all. SCOUT IS A REAL ASSHOLE
brazen lava
is the side objective of b2 supposed to be an endless alert or are we just stupid?
west crow
yessir
devout river
Yea
craggy orbit
Whenever you see a door that has an “error” class alarm, it don’t stop
There’s one in A2 as well, on the overload
The nice thing is that they generally dont spawn many enemies, typically only a few standard dudes per wave
Exceptions exist, of course
frail zinc
but they're known for spawning ahead of you and making you want to rip your toenails off
atomic escarp
A lot of levels have errors or some form of constant enemy waves after doing an objective.
craggy orbit
I still think error alarms started by a door or a midway objective and those started by the last objective or getting in the extraction scan deserve to be considered separately, because they have pretty different implications
That's just my opinion tho lol
atomic escarp
They do in a way yes but they all serve the same purpose
craggy orbit
It's just me being sorta nitpicky, because by current definitions you can say that B3 has an error alarm, but it's just not the same as, say, B2ex
craggy orbit
That's what I'm SAYIN'
nocturne flax
one keeps the preassure on
the other one pushes you to get out
they dont serve the same purpose
also some extraction sequences are not even error, theyre just 1 waves
atomic escarp
I never added extraction scans into my judgement. I'm talking about objective ones and error alarm doors, they basically do the same thing.
craggy orbit
If it's started by the last objective, I'd honestly count that under extraction alarm
nocturne flax
9/10 times when you finish the objective its usually the last one
wich makes it the extraction scan
craggy orbit
First exception that comes to mind is C3ov
It's really just a silly semantics thing and I didn't come here looking to start any arguments
So I'm gonna chill for now
craggy orbit
u rite tho
atomic escarp
It's really just a silly semantics thing and I didn't come here looking to start...
Nor did I, never intend too. We are all allowed opinions, I see it differently that's all
They're not even fun error alarms
: ^ (
craggy orbit
This was their first pass on the optional objectives stuff, so I can kinda forgive it
If it continues in R5, then I'll be mad
Give us more interesting ways for the optionals to change the mission
Shut off lights! Mess with fog more!
Hell, change the route you have to take through the main objective!
atomic escarp
If extreme's terminal had one less bulkhead key and moved it to inside high it would have made B2 better
craggy orbit
God my group got stuck on B2PE for so long
Partially because we went for it real soon after R4 launched so we were all kinda rusty and also just not as experienced as we are now
But yeah I'd love to see more variance in how the optional stuff affects the mission as a whole, outside of just error alarm or just being time sinks
frail zinc
i hate any levels with fog in it
so b2 is still not touched for me
that error from the very start is what makes it even mre annoying in the end
hoary garden
the error alarm is what makes it fun
atomic escarp
Your words are wise
atomic escarp
The error alarm in B2 is unironically what makes it fun for me
frail zinc
like i dont mind it
but if they decide to spawn in a overcrowded room ahead of you
it gets bothersome after a few tries
atomic escarp
Even better
hoary garden
i unironically love it
it adds so much tension
you need to manage the spawns well
save the important doors
kill scouts
etc
frail zinc
like i love the faster pace it adds
but my mental can only handle so many fuck ups because of enemies spawning in rooms ahead of you
hoary garden
ehh fair enough
its not like a2 where no matter what the error wave will spawn ahead of you
and set off scouts
atomic escarp
Even better when your team gets frustrated about forward spawns and you're the only one having a good time
frail zinc
i'll always have a fun time on gtfo when im playing with my boys
hoary garden
even better when you pull the class vi in the ovld zone without telling your team
and then they scramble to get to the scan
atomic escarp
Sometimes ||call them dumb|| silently
frail zinc
cos we fuck around and i expect us to never pass shit 
and sometimes they scramble enough brain power to pass
and then there are games with pluton where we tryhard duo
lunar tangle
нужна тима
queen field
нужна тима
ask in #lfg-eastern-europe(заявка в #lfg-eastern-europe )
atomic escarp
does D2 high first area have an ammopack?
if not, and I see someone at 92% ammo they're hacking?
nocturne flax
First area as in spawn room?
atomic escarp
yeah nvm he was hacking
used cfoam launcher twice at full charge
still at 80% cfoam
btw yes
first area he had 92% carbine ammo
I asked another player in the lobby if he also saw his cfoam at 80% and he said "yes"
so I can chalk out any desynch and stuff like that
I was hosting, for the record
nocturne flax
report them to mod mail if you where using discord lfgs
mighty pond
Imagine hacking on D2 high
Simply imagine hacking period 😩 😩 💩 💩
atomic escarp
report them to mod mail if you where using discord lfgs
I wasn't and it was a very common nickname I assume
nocturne flax
I wasn't and it was a very common nickname I assume
Yeah matchmaking its kind of wack in that regard
its basically free reign for cheater
We need a report system for matchmaking
obtuse cedar
cause they are lazy and don't want to pass through discord 🤔
queen nymph
Not really. They think games shouldn’t rely on third-party software to communicate and find team.
devout river
But some game’s work better with a third party system rather than in game matchmaking I guess
mortal granite
you got vc in game as well already
nocturne flax
Its not even that
they cannot be reported
the only thing you can do its maybe remember later his nickname (if he doesnt change it obviously)
so its just easy to go into MM and cheat freely since you cannot go to mod mail nor report them in game
quiet hound
whyd do you hate discord
atomic escarp
the prevalence of cheaters being one of them
quiet hound
mm is heaps worse but yeah its annoying
mossy yoke
the prevalence of cheaters being one of them
If you find a cheater or someone playing unfairly (especially in this server) report it to @jaunty hedge so the staff can take care of it
turbid cliff
In terms of mm cheaters the game should make it really easy to open up someone's steam profile mid-game perhaps
queen field
they can make their profile private
it won't change much
(except if you mean getting their name)
turbid cliff
I wasn't and it was a very common nickname I assume
The context is this but it'd be nice for other things too
atomic escarp
I'm not gonna name him in a public chat no matter how sure I am that he was cheating since I'm pretty sure that'd be against the rules
And I really don't see the point since there's certanly more than 1 user by that nickname
indigo lantern
i think its about time they add the snatcher to the game
wouldn't you agree folks?
lyric narwhal
yes
livid stone
definitely
mortal granite
wouldn't you agree folks?
devs: I AM 4 PARALLEL UNIVERSE AHEAD OF YOU
atomic escarp
Snatcher: Rundown specific
forest horizon
Interesting levels: Rundown Specific
nocturne flax
It does says: New enemies
more than 1
im exited to what they have for us
big-big charger
solemn wigeon
when the complex itself is the enemy
forest horizon
enemies that are environmental hazards
solemn wigeon
so, spitters?
forest horizon
Kind of like the barnacles from half life
forest horizon
I guess it could be a spitter variant
solemn wigeon
no don't ban me ;3;
granite scarab
: (
granite scarab
the only thing i hate more than shooters are spitters because they aggravate me to no end
forest horizon
I only really hate when they are in a foggy area and spawn in a cluster you can't see until it blows up on you
solemn wigeon
spitters are squishy and cute though
forest horizon
Ngl I really hope the snatcher isn't super buggy. Hopefully the devs take their time as much as they need and don't rush it out half baked
solemn wigeon
gets off elevator and gets taken by snatcher immediately
forest horizon
Lol
granite scarab
i want the snatcher to pick me up and just run away
so i dont have to worry about whats happening anymore and i can spend quality time with the homie
forest horizon
We still talking about gtfo lmao
forest horizon
Meanwhile everyone else is flipping out
granite scarab
forest horizon
All I know is it'll probably be cool because it will be the first truly unique enemy since launch but it'll also probably be janky af
Hope I'm wrong tho
errant saffron
I was trying to do B1 Extreme last night. We got extreme done, so we had to use the extra cell to power the reactor. We wanted to see if there was another cell to get into the supply room. Typing this into the terminal said there was no more cells: LIST CELL
That doesn't seem right to me though. My question is, is there another cell in the supply room? (The one to the right of the of the extract scan, behind the silent security door)
We could have really used the health. Please it's easy and why not?
atomic escarp
There's only 4 cells in the whole B1 map
errant saffron
So you have to choose Extreme or the supply room. Oh boy. It's good to know though to use resources accordingly.
atomic escarp
Mhm
There's more than enough res in B1 extreme to go through 2 wave 5s
And still have res in high
errant saffron
Yeah, we thought we could get to that supply room and used too much tool on sentry was all. Now we know, we won't do that again.
mighty pond
At least you have now learned
atomic escarp
Yep, just don't ask how I did wave 5 twice
pulsar zodiac
you can basically abandon the idea of stealth after extreme
atomic escarp
Ping
obtuse surge
the last zone on B1 extreme, after clearing all waves, has more resources so that's probably why you don't need the other zone anymore
(and additionally, yes, all reactor objectives seem to have way more resources than you'll ever need)
there's also the disinfect as to where you get a disinfect station in the extra zone which is technically infinite disinfection but it seems like they very much thought of that because there's over 20 uses of disinfect in the extreme zones
(while there's basically no chance of getting infected in most those zones)
obtuse cedar
Always too much ammo on reactor levels... Though i assume it is there in case people have to do extra wave if they fail at retrieving the code in time
mighty pond
The extra ammo is really most likely so people can fail codes and still learn more about the level by progressing
However once you have the knowledge you need it does become more than what you really need as a team
candid dragon
if they gave you the resource room it would be overkill imo
obtuse surge
additional resources to manage failed waves/make up for multiple players shooting the same enemy/make up for lots of missed shots/allow players to rush through the zones faster and only grab resources they run into
there's a lot of reasons why reactor objectives could be so packed with loot, only a dev can give you the actual answer
obtuse cedar
We could have a reactor level that closes down the whole area of the reactor once it is done? 🤔 sealing off the extra resources. This could be done by having an extra alarm when entering the last code that could be stopped by going into the next area of the level and closing a one way door behind you. Obviously it would require a team scan to ensure everyone is not left behind
barren hollow
spitters are squishy and cute though
@solemn wigeon ugly, disgusting and annoying AF
solemn wigeon
<@194140960102416384> ugly, disgusting and annoying AF
Ur ugly disgusting and annoying AF >;(
barren hollow
Atleast I dont squirter ugly green goo at people for no reason
hoary garden
i'm so proud of this community
desert shell
mother or spitter
solemn wigeon
They invade my personal space
granite token
||What is the mission in C1 Extreme?||
obtuse surge
||12 round uplink||
obtuse cedar
||better hope you get the good terminal lol||
hoary garden
||better hope you get the good terminal lol||
wdym, we got the other one and it was fine
obtuse surge
one
obtuse cedar
wdym, we got the other one and it was fine
ofc it was fine... we knew what we were doing and doing it quickly
hoary garden
why does that emote exist
obtuse surge
hoary garden
granite token
😦
obtuse surge
the thing is you actually can kite it
obtuse surge
pull alarm -> run as far away as possible -> gather up all enemies over there -> come back and all the extra distance you gained on them is basically free scan progress
You can go into the zone that needs that key for B3
and you also have 8 doors along the path that can be closed and even c foamed
obtuse surge
on high
granite token
thanks!
obtuse surge
i don't think you should do it that way
granite token
why?
obtuse surge
but it would work as long as none of you down
mortal granite
just down at the scan
obtuse surge
and it would cost basically no resources to get the scan done that way
mortal granite
granite token
should all of us kite out
or just one of us kite?
obtuse surge
all unless you can get that one person to have all the enemies chase him
granite token
i see thanks!
obtuse surge
that makes me think of an even cheesier way you could do it 
granite token
how?
obtuse surge
if you can get one person to take them all with him to the other side of the map
all the other 3 can just stay at the scan
and that one person can dc
granite token
-_-
mortal granite
congratulation
hoary garden
illegal gtfo strat
mortal granite
you just describe R2E1
granite token
you just describe R2E1
Hell
mortal granite
but the opposite way
i remembered when that strat surface in R2E1
1 guy down and 3 other guys screaming in the mic
telling you to DC
or they'll be very upset
i'm very angy
granite scarab
trigger warning 
obtuse surge
shhh don't tell the devs about the strat or they're gonna make the scan progress for less than 4 players on an S1 even slower
granite token
what is DC?
obtuse surge
disconnect
granite token
lol
obtuse surge
if he leaves he won't be required for the scan anymore
granite token
lolololololololol
shy vessel
just spawn cap shooters and look at the floor 
west crow
spawn cap the floor and look at the shooters 😳
granite token
🙂
rich shadow
@hallow barn
candid dragon
if you cant see it, it cant hurt you.
woeful vector
true
weak python
hoary garden
the virgin DC vs the chad kite for 50 minutes
atomic escarp
Sounds boring ngl
barren hollow
it was the year 2048, gtfo released rundown#069. And the new Z1 had arrived
spawn room has 61 scouts
followed by a class15 s alarm
a class 17 error alarm
and and 15 shadow, charger, hybrid, scouts
and 5 shadow, mother, spitter, tanks
queen field
only 5 spitters ? 😩
devout river
Yes a Z tier mission would have at least 500 of them
atomic escarp
it required each of us to split up forcing to restart all 4 gens at the game time but we needed the hard drives in order to access the boot sequence; sadly the power supply was hidden behind a keycard locked door
nocturne flax
Can we have one of those
robust marsh
if only we had a mission like that
nocturne flax
Can we have a flamethrower
nocturne flax
Man, can we even get a door leak
shit, you can throw a glowstick at a wall and people would be happy
obtuse cedar
wraith spire
maybe if we say why they add it
To hear the sleepers squeal as well as the crispy sound of their burning flesh and skin
👁️ 👄 👁️
craggy orbit
shit, you can throw a glowstick at a wall and people would be happy
New consumable, sticky glowsticks, can be stuck to enemies too but they’ll feel insulted
queen field
To hear the sleepers squeal as well as the crispy sound of their burning flesh a...
what a strange way to spell spitters
quaint yarrow
I just want a flashlight sentry
robust marsh
i mean if you count muzzle flash as a flashlight yes
nocturne flax
I would love to deploy the lrf on the floor
closest thing we have right now its putting an empty sentry on the ground and using the white light to iluminate the area a little bit
jaunty hedgeBOT
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atomic escarp
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upper fern
i need a mission that takes 8 hours to complete
trying to waste my whole day to die at the end 
west crow
I need an expedition where the prisoners separate from each other
west crow
Yes
solemn wigeon
A level where we play as the sleepers 
mortal granite
Teammate A: Did you clear your room yet?
Teammate B: No, not yet
Teammate A: gun shot
solemn wigeon
:O
granite scarab
Split up mission 😩
heavy wave
Teammate A: "silently clearing his room"
Teammate B: "DO YOU NEED SOME LIGHT?"
candid dragon
"are you sure?"
west crow
Haha yes! That happens to me all the time! But my game chats more go like
Teammate A: "Man this level sure would be cool if we split up"
Teammate B: "I hope they implement proximity chat in that level where we would particularly split up."
Teammate C: "Flashlights off hammers out!!"
gtfo is a crazy wacky game!
errant vigil
Also my favorite "I'm gonna get my kiting medipack"
obtuse surge
everyone knows you can't do the alarm to the key zone on B3 overload without someone kiting
storm crystal
Video recorder already going brrrrr
errant vigil
Yea cluster scans are the slowest
granite scarab
did someone say split up mission 😩
errant vigil
Everyone knows you can't do B2 Overload without circle kiting the alarms
silk oyster
there is a robot model in the first stage
could this be a new enemy like a security guard in the future?
queen field
Probably a robot used for lifting heavy objects
or a highly-intelligent AI-powered robot to support the workers
or an exoskeleton
silk oyster
maybe
but it would be so cool if they add them in future rundowns
bold widget
yo assault rifleing the scout is actually pretty hard
the way it flinches makes it tricky to hit the follow up shots
twilit remnant
Why are you assault rifling a scout
Why are you using a primary on the scout in the first place
atomic escarp
Why not?
barren notch
two primaries can kill a scout, if timed to hit at the same time
solemn wigeon
Tickle the scout
dapper dagger
yo assault rifleing the scout is actually pretty hard
you dont know how many attempts it took to get an autopistol kill
bold widget
no cost too great
pliant shard
It took him 1 attempt everyone should get a AP scout kill it’s easy 
obtuse surge
i find the smg one to be harder
obtuse cedar
Why would you risk smg a scout... You'd be better hammering it at that point since you are already close to it
Unless you are trying to do a no hammer run and no big guns i don't see why you'd want to kill a scout with a smg out of all the weapons
craggy flame
Because they were bored and wanted a challenge. Wesley can hammer them just fine
Also maybe to acquire data
obtuse cedar
I mean the data would just confirm that other options are just better 🤷
bold widget
DMR and hel revolver I managed first try
craggy flame
And Wesley (the others prolly too) knows that other options are better. There is no need to break your mind over this. It was for them a game 🤷♂️
candid dragon
Someone needs to get scout collateral with hel revo
bold widget
update: carbine and standart pistol indeed works
dapper dagger
dmr, hel revo and pistol are the most reliable primaries
you can pull them off every time
atomic escarp
Overtuned
candid dragon
give me hel autopistol
atomic escarp
staggers enemies
penetration
And somehow people will still find a way to not use it well and call it shit
atomic escarp
Hel revo doesn't 1shot headshot, trash gun
stoic egret
Man I always see some dumb shit in here, but it makes my day just to read it. Daily discord stories.
quaint yarrow
What is the best way to animation cancel the hel revolver?
quaint yarrow
i know some people will animation cancel with quick melee and I just wanted to know what's the best way 
I guess swapping weapons makes sense
dreamy bramble
you only animation cancel with shove for burst cancelling
its slower to shove than swap than it is to swap to a different weapon and back
granite scarab
imagine not cancelling with the esc key 
queen field
imagine not cancelling with Alt F4
high jolt
imagine not having a defective mouse that will swing early when trying to stealth kill a big charger
high jolt
thats one solution
obtuse surge
reload animation cancelling
yes
you can't do it with esc
it breaks you
literally
if you esc during a reload you have to swap weapons or you can't do shit anymore
yes
candid dragon
Hit that one last night on E1, was very confused and panicked
bold widget
Remember those days in r1 where you could kill scouts with mines and not wake up the room
livid stone
kek
errant vigil
Infection great tho
solemn wigeon
Delicious infection juice
errant vigil
Spitters spiting on me 
pliant shard
member' when infection wasn't a mechanic
Only r5 peeps will remeber when ||REDACTED|| was still not an implemented mechanic
mossy yoke
Unless we say it's for a specific rundown, it's talking in general stuff that we're working on, or may be working in partial, since a feature can take a while to fully create. But don't take that we're working on stuff in some capacity that it'll be coming with the next rundown
errant vigil
yes
mossy yoke
because i'd never actually lie to you
turbid cliff
"mm will not come with r4"
mossy yoke
storm that's because we didn't know if we could actually ship mm in r5 until very close to the end
granite scarab
solemn wigeon
Will Rundown 5 be released in rundown 5?
obtuse cedar
Nah rundown 5 is gonna be release in rundown 6
nocturne flax
because i'd never actually lie to you
oh really
dont make me pull the door unlock with terminal
remember
i remember
i was heartbroken
mossy yoke
lol
granite scarab
based
mighty pond
https://i.imgur.com/WaroGtU.gifv
LMAO
shy vessel
https://i.imgur.com/WaroGtU.gifv
shy vessel
because i'd never actually lie to you
"Mapper is coming"
mighty pond
It's coming, just really.. really slowly 🙂
shy vessel
r600
"we decided to scrap the mapper"