gtfo-spoiler-chat

[atomic escarp]

Unless its A2 again, there's one in 43, 1 in first Extreme zone, one more in Overload, the extreme bulkhead that you get the HSU in doesn't have a bulkhead key

[granite token]

no im talking about b2

now

[atomic escarp]

You can't

[granite token]

ohh i see

[atomic escarp]

Unless you don't do the terminal command and leave it for last

[granite token]

im currently at b2

yeah, so just do pe anyways

[craggy orbit]

Cannot do B2 overload without doing extreme

And boy howdy does extreme make that level a doozy

[granite token]

yeah it does

the fog and error alarm is the problem

[craggy orbit]

Going for overload necessitates doing 86/7 in fog, yeah

You can usually find some repellers in 88/9 though

[granite token]

i see thanks!

[craggy orbit]

Maybe elsewhere if you’re lucky; My group was not lucky.

Fortunately it’s not infection fog <_<

[granite token]

😦

[atomic escarp]

Going into 88 and 89 first will make failure a bit more demoralizing, I'd suggest just memorizing the fog zones

[craggy orbit]

Go through the fog zones to get overload out of the way with faster

Maybe divert into 88 if you really need resources at some point

[shrewd flume]

anyone got some leaks? It's been a while and I need my fix

[pseudo pumice]

only leaks you will get will be #dev-leaks

[atomic escarp]

You can get leeks from the market

[shrewd flume]

I'm on the leeks market

we pay top dollar for leeks and leek accessories

[craggy orbit]

Turnips outdated, it’s all about leeks now

[granite scarab]

we only accept leek payments in dogecoin

[mighty pond]

Go check your pipes you might find a leak or two there

[pliant shard]

I’m playing stardew and I’m finding leeks everywhere

[mighty pond]

Pog

[vapid moon]

starting to fail regular scouts more than shadow scouts. do i need to jump for regular scouts now? I hit a full charge hammer on the head but it gives a non-crit marker on their forehead and sometimes i dont even get a marker. they play the animation when you hit a scout and its head gets knocked back. any ideas?

[bleak canopy]

Is it okay to post maps here of certain levels?

[atomic escarp]

Yes that's fine.

[bleak canopy]

I mapped out all of E1 that should cover all the terminals, doors, and area. Boxes and lockers are there too it is just they spawn differently every time.

https://i.imgur.com/OGs2Z6C.jpg

[sharp merlin]

MVP

[bleak canopy]

I thought it would be useful for those looking for terminals in extreme and high

I apologize for the low quality bits, I tried my best to stitch together all the screenshots, but I noticed that some of my screenshots got distorted once you get closer to the edges. Also, for some reason a few of the room numbers are blurry. This is not from the screenshots it is just that while in game they just remained blurry.

[sick jewel]

question about the monster I saw on GTFO yt, the one that will expand it's tentacles what is that??

[atomic escarp]

Scout

[light totem]

scoot

karen

etc

[tiny hornet]

hey guys, I have a question about R4C2 extreme, does the 2 IDs usually spawn in both zone 55 and 56 and require us to do 2 surge alarms back to back to get them?

[nocturne flax]

its rng

it can be both in one room

or it can be in both zones

[tiny hornet]

oh damn

[nocturne flax]

both rooms it good tho

more resources!

[tiny hornet]

yeah its just that it's exhausting to do almost 3 surge alarms back to back 😩

[nocturne flax]

well thats c2 for ya

[tiny hornet]

mmhm

[nocturne flax]

If you guys are amazing at kite then just pull all 3 at the same time

and do the running marathon

[tiny hornet]

omg ahahah we're not that good yet

[nocturne flax]

not recommended tho

one goes down in a shitty spot and its kite in and back

[tiny hornet]

damn..we just did it last night and i dont think we wanna revisit c2 again anytime soon

[nocturne flax]

the more you play a level the more time you can cut

you'll fine things you'll save time on and capitalize on that

[tiny hornet]

oh yeah, we'll get better the more we play i guess

thanks though

[nocturne flax]

Do you know what happens in overload?

[tiny hornet]

no idea honestly

what happens 👀

[nocturne flax]

You want spoilers?

its better if you experience it yourself

[tiny hornet]

ahh true, part of the terror is seeing it firsthand

[nocturne flax]

hell you can skip extreme altogether and just do 1 surge to get to overload

just to see what happens in that zone

[tiny hornet]

oh yeah that makes sense, i guess we're revisiting c2 after all then

[granite scarab]

c2 pe fun

[nocturne flax]

c2 pe long

[granite scarab]

hour 15 about

with good members

:)

[bright hornet]

idk if this is the correct chat to post this in, but does anybody else have inconsistent invisible scout footstep sounds?

[robust marsh]

in what level

[bright hornet]

d2

[robust marsh]

overload?

[bright hornet]

yes

[robust marsh]

did you by any chance play C3 extreme or C2 overlaod

overload*

[bright hornet]

yes finished both

[robust marsh]

!wiki shadowscout

[left lynx]

https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Shadow_Scout
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page shadowscout for a direct link or !wiki search shadowscout for a list of all hits.

GTFO Wiki

Shadow Scout

The Shadow Scout is an enemy type which is only visible in light or with the Bio Tracker tool. Unlike most normal Scouts, these invisible variants spawn close together in groups and can set off a dangerous chain reaction if not silently killed. It made its debut in Rundown #4 in the C and D tier Overload objectives.

Aliases

Ghost Scout

Damage

4% / projectile

Health

Medium

Speed

Slow (patrolling)/ Average (fighting)

Threat level

High

Weak Points

Occiput, Head/Back

[atomic escarp]

Rey. Only overload has shadow scouts in D2

[bright hornet]

i think c2 had them as well

[robust marsh]

C2 and C3 extreme has them too

[hoary garden]

wait what

im pretty sure c3 doesnt have them

in extreme at least

[robust marsh]

there is a small chance

[pseudo pumice]

is c3 extreme the gen cluster

or the hsu

[robust marsh]

of them spawning in C3 extreme

[hoary garden]

gen

[robust marsh]

overload idk

[atomic escarp]

C3 extreme too

[robust marsh]

but as i remmber i saw one

[hoary garden]

lmao thats a bruh moment

[pseudo pumice]

i know a scout can spawn there

[robust marsh]

C2 overload there is a lot

[pseudo pumice]

don't remember if shadow or not

[robust marsh]

like 5/6 at highest for shadow scouts

in C2 overload

[bright hornet]

i dont remember a shadow scout in c3

[atomic escarp]

Base scout in gen cluster room

Wait

[robust marsh]

its after the shadow wave alarm

in those dark rooms

[atomic escarp]

Hmm

[robust marsh]

i remmber seeing one

[hoary garden]

huh

[atomic escarp]

If I'm remembering this right

[robust marsh]

i may just had a feever dream or something

[hoary garden]

only ever found usual scouts there

[atomic escarp]

266 only has shadows and shadow giants

265 has shadows

[bright hornet]

nah

[robust marsh]

than i just had a fever dream got it cool

[atomic escarp]

Yea, no I'm an idiot

[bright hornet]

c3 only had invisible giants and sleepers

[robust marsh]

but C2 has them

[bright hornet]

no shadow scouts

[robust marsh]

you cant say anything to C2 overload

because that area is full of shadow scouts

and adumb most likely didn't see them because his teammates were good

if his playing with randoms that is

[bright hornet]

or maybe they were just invisible

[robust marsh]

or someone that played the game one too many times

[bright hornet]

im just practicing bonking them in d2

with a friend

to get it more consistent

but sometimes the footsteps glitch out and i cant hear them

[robust marsh]

they are shadows sooo bio tracker is the best tool to have

for it

[bright hornet]

yeah, ik that

[robust marsh]

hell if you going for overload obj bring a bio for sure

[bright hornet]

but i got screwed because the triangle depth was weird

[hoary garden]

wait what the triangles have depth

[bright hornet]

yeah

[atomic escarp]

Bio is best tool in general

[robust marsh]

the most usefull one (in general its petty usefull)

[pseudo pumice]

shadow scouts are annoying cuz they use the shadow striker model and their head is higher than it looks so you have to jump

[bright hornet]

^

it annoying when they do the crouch animation

[hoary garden]

just play as host and sprint aggro them xd

[mighty pond]

You can still hit them without jumping, but the jump does make it a bit easier to manage.

[bright hornet]

i angle my crosshair higher

u dont have to jump

[pseudo pumice]

yea that's what i meant sorry

[mighty pond]

The crouch animation actually is the most reliable means of hitting their head if you're ready for it.

[pseudo pumice]

like i just aim wayyy higher

[bright hornet]

i dont like the crouch because their shadow becomes a big blob

[mighty pond]

And as host all you have to do is tap sprint to make them crouch over, so with nothing else nearby it makes the kill ez af

[bright hornet]

im just not used to it i guess

[pseudo pumice]

i find it harder when they crouch down

[mighty pond]

I've found hitting them while they're crouched is quite a fair bit easier if you're in front, but at an angle

where you can actually see the head outline

Rather than straight on

[nocturne flax]

Just shoot them with burst canon lolololol- Kanye West

[hoary garden]

Thank you Kanye, very cool! - 10CC, probably, idk

[bright hornet]

also another bug i commonly encounter

is that its head disappears

[nocturne flax]

Are you hammering on the ladder?

[bright hornet]

no

usually flat ground

[mighty pond]

With shadow scouts?

[bright hornet]

yes

[mighty pond]

Anything less than a full charge can break head, but not deal fatal damage.

[light totem]

Oh

[mighty pond]

It happens

[light totem]

That’s why

[bright hornet]

no

if you look at the head

[mighty pond]

Uhh, yes.

[bright hornet]

it just disappears from the model

[light totem]

And press lmb

[bright hornet]

without bonking it

[mighty pond]

How often does that happen, cause literally never heard of that.

[light totem]

Never either

[mighty pond]

And I've been dealing with shadow scouts quite, quite, a lot

[robust marsh]

i dont know

never happened to me either

[light totem]

Shadow scoots. Yeah cause it has the striker model must share it in the model

[robust marsh]

one time for me scouts go on the thing but the feelers dont come out and if you hit them it will scream

all scouts in the level was like that

when i first started playing the game

[bright hornet]

what fov do you guys play on

maybe thats a factor

[light totem]

All the way

[mighty pond]

I highly doubt that FOV is a factor

[light totem]

Unless you play at like 40. That shouldn’t be a factor

[mighty pond]

I regularly change my FOV for meme purposes

[light totem]

Or whatever lowest is

[mighty pond]

This does in-fact include playing at 20

[light totem]

20. That was it

I know some models disappear in 20 fov. At least on my experience in R3. But never enemies

[robust marsh]

normal

i play at normal

[light totem]

Gross

55 is gross

[robust marsh]

60

[light totem]

[robust marsh]

the normal is 60

[light totem]

55

But

[robust marsh]

as i remmber

[light totem]

No

Unless it changed. You are wrong

[mossy yoke]

default is 55

[light totem]

[bright hornet]

ill record my interactions

[light totem]

Kk

Also. Why tf is there even an option for 20 fov

Who tf want to look down a sniper scope all the time

[mossy yoke]

don't judge

😉

[robust marsh]

than 60 is mine

[light totem]

And when do we get fov scaling sights. Cause playing on scopes balanced for 55 sucks ass

[robust marsh]

still petty defult

[light totem]

If it’s not Dmr melee it’s wrong. Therefore I judge

[nocturne flax]

CHANGE IT

[light totem]

120 or bust

[nocturne flax]

I would understand if we were playing on a console, but we kind of on PC, default that fov to 90 pls

go standar

[light totem]

Mhm

[nocturne flax]

Fishbowl looking ass

[light totem]

Bruh

I do max out every game I can

:)

But yeah. Some fov scaling and flashlight scaling for higher fov would be great. Cause I want to kms every single time I look down the sights of EVERY gun. When they zoom in to balance around 55

And some flashlights angle are actually useless

[nocturne flax]

Player: ads's

game: im zooming in

[light totem]

All at once

[nocturne flax]

The almighty phrase from a fallen god

[light totem]

Yup

[nocturne flax]

But honestly the fov should default to 90 like 99% of the games in the market

And probably make the menu more "friendly"

[light totem]

90 for sure

[nocturne flax]

like adding descriptions to what option does

[light totem]

And make the highest 140

And yes

[nocturne flax]

People do be playing quake

[light totem]

Sounds like a lowly 90 player

I need good fov in a cqc game

[nocturne flax]

Like a description on what cpu culling does, max render queue etc

You literally have the other half of the monitor to put descriptions on it

[light totem]

Lmao

[shy vessel]

pain

[mighty pond]

default should at least be 70

Cause 55 is painful

[shy vessel]

55 fov is so bad

it feels like your face is a foot in front of your character

[mossy yoke]

will lock it to 10 for everyone

[light totem]

I hate you

55 is actually painful

[mossy yoke]

git gud

😉

fight the pain

it'll make you stronger

[light totem]

70-110 I can play. But I’ll complain. A lot

Doc

Want to talk about pain

[nocturne flax]

Do it, you wont

[light totem]

Laughs in their bs tracking I get

You get it too

Enemy movement and attack speed goes brr

[atomic escarp]

I legitimately got a headache when I watched a streamer play with low fov

[light totem]

Yeah

[shy vessel]

I KNOW RIGHT

[atomic escarp]

Its horrible

[mossy yoke]

ok ok we'll give you 364.25 FOV

[light totem]

Ok

Perfect

[shy vessel]

people who play at 55 fov look like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423394643879788557/810083604407255040/unknown.png

[atomic escarp]

Make base FOV be 120

Ez

Lmao

[mighty pond]

Jokes on you, I want to have a lower possible FOV so I can be inside the enemies when I kill them.

[light totem]

Ok. So

[nocturne flax]

Zoom in a microscope

[light totem]

Make the lowest 1 fov

[atomic escarp]

The amount of unzoom you'd get from ADSing

[light totem]

And the highest 359

Like bruh. Why wouldn’t you want the fov to be more natural. Ie the highest fov you can usually get

Instead you want to just have clear vision of what you would be focused on

Which. Jokes on you. Actually gets worse clear cause you are so zoomed in makes your SA useless

[atomic escarp]

Natural FOV is 90 right?

[light totem]

180

Give or take

Focused is like uh

20?

[shy vessel]

90 fov is the standard used by avid fps players where as games tend to default to around 60 fov

[nocturne flax]

Monitor and abuse

[shy vessel]

90 fov in tf2 is like 110 - 120 fov in GTFO tbh

[light totem]

I need a wide monitor so I can make the higher fov even better

[atomic escarp]

Experiencing 120 FOV in GTFO, it feels weird playing other FPS games that have fixed FOVs

[light totem]

I hate playing games with fixed

[atomic escarp]

Like feeling an itch that you can't scratch

[shy vessel]

what fps's are you playing with fixed FOV's??

[light totem]

Halo I can make it indefinitely fov

[atomic escarp]

Only Valorant

[light totem]

Either -999999 or 999999

[shy vessel]

[light totem]

And it’s great

[atomic escarp]

Sad, I know

[light totem]

Old metro has fixed fov

Unfortunately

[shy vessel]

Ultrakill defaults to 90 fov

and thats how i knew it was a good game

[light totem]

That should default to like 200 in that game

[shy vessel]

lmao

[light totem]

Doom as well

[shy vessel]

it lets you bump it to 160

[light totem]

We need that in gtfo

Also

Why not split vertical and horizontal fov into separate settings

Plz and thank you

[atomic escarp]

@ D0c change default FOV to 90 ples?

[bright hornet]

i figured out why the shadow scout's head disappears

if you get too close to it, it simply doesnt render

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shy vessel]

ultrakill defaults it's fps to double whatever your monitors refresh rate is

sign of a good game

[light totem]

Pog

[shy vessel]

you should all just go buy ultrakill

[light totem]

No

:)

[atomic escarp]

Someone likes ultrakill : ^ )

[light totem]

Based

And nekopilled

[shy vessel]

[vapid moon]

I already have ultrakill

[dapper dagger]

act 2 when

[vapid moon]

Tomorrow

[atomic escarp]

More guns and gun variants when?

[novel wasp]

Need more shotguns.

And can my pistol have a loudener?

[atomic escarp]

If only GTFO guns pack the same oompf

[novel wasp]

I want to alert everything when I fire a shot and never heard them coming because my ear drums have been obliterated.

[stoic egret]

Thunder gun

[dapper dagger]

for real?

[vapid moon]

no lmfao

[dapper dagger]

why u do dis to me

i had hope

[vapid moon]

why would you hear it from me first

[dapper dagger]

cos I dont really follow it atm

[vapid moon]

im still michael reeves appearently

[atomic escarp]

You really sound like him, its uncanny

[vapid moon]

i dont hear it personally

[atomic escarp]

Funny how that is

[vapid moon]

although i guess it makes sense since we have the same ethnicity

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hexed glen]

i'm having trouble finding it, but can someone tell me which terminals in C3 have special 'logs'?

[vapid moon]

C3 has no special logs

[hexed glen]

oh, thank you!

[vapid moon]

np

There is a text log, no audio logs.

[pliant shard]

C3 overload has special terminal log for text

Z252 iirc

[errant vigil]

pretty sure that's not a zone in C3

let alone in overload

[craggy orbit]

Probably 322, then

That's the only overload zone that ends in a 2

[bold widget]

Tmw you saved your sickle leave for the day r5 comes out

[mortal granite]

i may got a strat to beat E1 solo with only 1 Tank circle

but i don't think you get pass that second S1 alarm that easy

unless you bring c foam?

after a month of researching alarm

well, at least for normal team , you can get 1 tank circle consistently with that strat.

imma test that one on D2 PE solo

[calm coral]

is this the actual cap alpha?

[robust marsh]

yes what about it?

[calm coral]

coolcool

most of the clears I watched when I was still a noob were from him :)

[robust marsh]

@mortal granite answer the fans

XD

[calm coral]

lmaoo dw abt it

[mortal granite]

i was sleeping

my bad

[limber shell]

Does C2 have the tank in it as well?

[atomic escarp]

Just a mother

[bold widget]

Angle dust as a playable character in gtfo when

[modest aspen]

:weirdga:

[granite token]

In B3 PE, what should I do first?

Extreme or High? Where is the Overload bulkhead door?

[dreamy bramble]

i prefer overload --> ext if you have resources --> high

overload is through ext

you can leave ext without finishing it after finishing overload

so you can come back after getting resources from high

[granite token]

i see there is no any error or infinite alarm or whatsoever, especially after finishing the uplink terminals?

[dreamy bramble]

last uplink is error

so just don't do that one

[atomic escarp]

There IS, but its only after you finish the last uplink

[granite token]

ok

thanks

[frail zinc]

There is so few resources in high its not even funny

[dreamy bramble]

wdym there's like 2-4 uses of each resource per zone

it's plenty if you manage your uplinks well

[west crow]

what weapons are you using

[errant vigil]

Just circle kite the terminals easy

[light totem]

They have two DMRs and two snipers

And use the DMRs as kill weapons

[vapid moon]

yeah cause sniper ass

[light totem]

Kek

Dmr isn’t tho

Not when it’s in the melee slot

[vapid moon]

haha big funny reference that nobody else will get

[robust marsh]

FUNNY

[light totem]

Stfu

[nocturne flax]

HAHA

[mighty pond]

I CAN CAPITALIZE LOTS OF LETTERS AND BOLD THEM HEHE LOOK AT ME

[nocturne flax]

countdown to R5 when 😉

[light totem]

Hm?

Yes

[nocturne flax]

yes wheres the timer its been a lot of months

r5 pls

[frail zinc]

Dragon the DMR addict

[atomic escarp]

Nice

[frail zinc]

cant wait for them to neft DMR just because of dragon

[nocturne flax]

pls no nerf T.T

its already a little bit udnerwhelming

[light totem]

Drop it’s ammo to like 10/60, up it’s fire rate a bit, up it’s recoil a bit, let it one shot

[nocturne flax]

too broken

[feral token]

no

[light totem]

Lmao bet

Still less effective than basically any primary

Like that

[nocturne flax]

10 1shots bullets on a primary bruh we out here destroying rooms dude

stack them up

easy claps

[light totem]

Lmao. That’s not effective at all

[candid olive]

4 drms and u got a full cleanup crew

[atomic escarp]

1shot headshots below 10 meters, farther than that same DMR we love and hate

[candid olive]

wdym, 40 1shot shots is

[feral token]

if you really care about weapon efficiency you just hammer

[light totem]

Of which unironically probably 75% of my kills are hammer

[candid olive]

not cfoaming every enemy

We need a HEL hammer

[errant vigil]

Damn everyone really want hel weapons

[nocturne flax]

If its gonna be oneshot:
*8 in mag, 60 in reserve
*fire delay of 1 second ( recoil will reset by the time you shoot again)
*slightly faster reload speed
so if it oneshots you have a firerate penalty and less ammo in exchange of oneshot capability from really long ranges and decent stagger in some medium enemies and stacking wont be powerful

[errant vigil]

But not when R3 was out

[light totem]

Hammer already pierces

Kekw

1 second. Lmao that’s garbage slow

Slower than fucking sniper

[nocturne flax]

your oneshoting with a primary

[light totem]

So. It’s fire rate is slow enough as is

Like 220 rpm iirc

[nocturne flax]

fire rate its fine, faster than what we have right now its a fucking ak 47 go BBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRR BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[feral token]

having the DMR 1 shot is hard to balance

[light totem]

Not really. Then again the devs aren’t great at weapon balance

[feral token]

how would you make it balanced?

[light totem]

Here have a shotgun that has over 1000 rpm

[nocturne flax]

ok how about 0.75 second delay

[light totem]

Balanced kekw

[errant vigil]

True balance is every gun is hel and oneshots

[nocturne flax]

recoil will settle back into your position

[errant vigil]

Easy

[light totem]

I’d say max. Like 0.3

0.325

Maybe

[nocturne flax]

Let me trivialize the game real quick

3 shots stagger a fucking big charger

[light totem]

I guess it would be 10/50 not 10/60 but same same

[errant vigil]

That seems to be what some people want

[nocturne flax]

get the fuck out of here

3 shots stagger giants, 1 shots hard stagger a fucking charger, penetrates 5 enemies good raw damage

jesus christ man

[light totem]

Hel rev?

[nocturne flax]

ye dude

shits crazy up there

[light totem]

It’s pretty broke. Also 287? DE iirc

[nocturne flax]

also penetration does full damage to people behind them

like wtf dude

[light totem]

Lmao yeah

[nocturne flax]

hel gun had a charge up for a reason

[candid olive]

gimme hel auto pistol

[nocturne flax]

nah would be fun to have different tools

[candid olive]

HEL c-foam

[nocturne flax]

we already have that

just go in c3 149 and try to cfoam the little door

i had 9 bubbles going right through it

[feral token]

just aim better

[errant vigil]

Barbed wire might be cool as a tool. Slows and damages enemies but also slows and damages you

[nocturne flax]

Then cfoam would be useless

[atomic escarp]

Barbed wire behind c-foamed doors OwO

[feral token]

yeah it would remove the main use of cfoam, putting it on the floor to slow enemies

[candid olive]

I know that silencers will be too OP but i cant think of a reason lore-vise on why dont we have it

[feral token]

fuck them prisoners thats why

[nocturne flax]

why delay them when you can pre damage them and just shoot them better

[hoary garden]

The gun cycling is enough to wake them up? idk

[atomic escarp]

DMR is suppressed : ^ )

[nocturne flax]

less ammo consumed

[feral token]

only give 1 barbed wire per refill and have them run out after doing a certain amount of damage

[nocturne flax]

Bruh they give you a hammer for a "weapon"

[candid olive]

Is it a suppressor do?

[nocturne flax]

you think theyre gonna give you actual gear

[candid olive]

more like an extention

but where do weapons come from then

[atomic escarp]

@light totem What do suppressors do

[feral token]

well the actual reason is probably because a suppressor wouldnt make gunshots quiet enough to not wake shit up

[candid olive]

maybe it would work on distance

while standart shots wake up the whole room

[atomic escarp]

Silencers = Suppressors Don't @ me

[light totem]

Suppressors are an actual thing. Silencers are Hollywood bs

[nocturne flax]

Sniper with supressor would be broken since you would one shot the scout without any drawback

[light totem]

Already does

[nocturne flax]

man too lazy to go fucking 50m away to snipe one dude

[candid olive]

not sniping scout with a hammer

[light totem]

Btw. Dmr has a fucking suppressor

[feral token]

how to add suppressors, make it so if you dont have one shooting your gun makes you lose hearing for 5 minutes

[atomic escarp]

: ^ )

[light totem]

You can even hear DMRs suppressor

[errant vigil]

I just want a tool that combos well with sentries

Rather than another sentry

[candid olive]

its probably a barrel extention for a higher accuracy

[light totem]

No

[atomic escarp]

Bruh

[light totem]

It absolutely is not

[feral token]

who knows what it is, the guns we have are scrapper junk

[nocturne flax]

ye its a big ol supressor that probably forgot to take it out when in development

[light totem]

It’s a suppressor. When you can even hear that it is. And is wrapped for head dispersion

[candid olive]

still dmr is underwhelming so

[nocturne flax]

cfoam

[atomic escarp]

I...

[nocturne flax]

make cfoam on the floor more effective

and it will pair nicely

[light totem]

Dmr can move in a few directions

Higher fire rate as is. Otherwise untouched

Or basically back to R1 and one shot

I swear they are just going to add more ammo. Since that seems to be the preferred balancing move for everything

[candid olive]

i will miss autopistol

[feral token]

well you talked about how it would suck cause of efficiency, so more ammo would help no?

[candid olive]

it has such a spicy stagger effect

[nocturne flax]

Well if theyre gonna put more special enemies like chargers and stuff rushing people more ammo in the mag would be welcome

[light totem]

It’s efficiency does suck. And it’s rof is personally my biggest turn off

I don’t mind playing support since I main autopistol

[nocturne flax]

12 its not really enough when you have big man runshing at you + chargers

[light totem]

It’s rof is disgustingly slow

[feral token]

honestly dmr would probably have been a better secondary but i guess we have it as a primary now

[light totem]

Really?

You mean like we argued but got attacked for

Hm

Stagger and pierce on Dmr OwO

[feral token]

bruhh, who attacked you for that

[light totem]

Cao

Obviously

[nocturne flax]

Pierce pls no

[light totem]

Lmao

[feral token]

i c

[nocturne flax]

stagger would be amazinng

OR A NEW DAMAGE VALUE

😄

[light totem]

Soy. Our squad being attacked is nothing new. Anyways

[candid olive]

make it shoot poisonous darts lol

[feral token]

dmr is a good support weapon so if it was a secondary it would be much better at actually supporting since it wouldnt have to do the whole be a "jack of all trades" shtick

[light totem]

Thermal Dmr

Ngl would be sweet

[atomic escarp]

Cleaned DMR sight

Would be great

[feral token]

you do have some controversial opinions but if youre getting attacked here or whatever report the people

[light totem]

I said that back on R2 iirc the thermal

[nocturne flax]

Let me replace the sight on it pls

[atomic escarp]

DMR sight is great as is

Just needs a wipe

[feral token]

[light totem]

I just want adjustable sight fov

[feral token]

i use the hel revolver as a dmr with no scope

sue me

[light totem]

Because fucking sniper zoom on a pistol is stupid

[candid olive]

what if they added changable scopes

they probably wont

[feral token]

im pretty sure that will come with weapon customisation

[atomic escarp]

DMR canted sights when?

[light totem]

Lol

[candid olive]

will they add weapon customisation tho

[feral token]

yes

[atomic escarp]

They will

[candid olive]

ooo

[light totem]

Canted sights on a thermal scope for DMR pog

[candid olive]

spicy

[feral token]

its on the rodemayp

[candid olive]

cant wait for the lasersights on my hammer

[atomic escarp]

O.O

[feral token]

https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap

[atomic escarp]

I used to main DMR because I idolized someone that mained it

Now I use it out of spite

[nocturne flax]

I tough they updated

baited

[nocturne flax]

To spite who?

[atomic escarp]

Yes

[hoary garden]

DMR is designated lock breaker

[light totem]

Dmr. The precision weapon not meant for precision

[nocturne flax]

Well it doesnt really per say fail at it, but for what the weapon its suppose to be it does a decent job

your suppose to switch targets and attempt to get as much headshots as you can then let your teammates kill the enemis since the weapon its for small-medium enemies

not really design to kill but design to be a wall

[light totem]

Dmr is probably the main reason I don’t play my standard role

Rear line ranged support fire

[nocturne flax]

of course when it comes alternatives autopistol stops enemies better

but dmr does more damage

[light totem]

Yes

[candid olive]

So, pro gamers, i need 1 more high to unlock E1, i have b3 and c3 not done, anyone up for a quick high run?

[light totem]

But a lot of times you don’t want the damage

You just want the stagger ability

[nocturne flax]

B3 easier

[light totem]

B3 def is

C3 is fun

[candid olive]

its stinky

too much fog

[light totem]

Exactly. Fun

[nocturne flax]

I spoke my version on a "oneshot" version of it

[light totem]

Yeah I was getting to work

Let me break it down too

[nocturne flax]

but since theyre gonna do the thing that you said theyre most likely do we might ass well just accept the stagger ability version of it

with just more ammo lmao

[light totem]

Lmao

I have two ways more or less

[candid olive]

so i got 5 PE's and SECTORS REQUIRED: thingie says i still need 1

hmm

[atomic escarp]

Bug

[light totem]

One is the increased rof from 220>350
The decimal damage increase that is required to one shot. But start damage drop at 8 meters and max at 100 so it’ll only one shot within drop range. Then nerf ammo from whatever it is now to about 12/72

[errant vigil]

Damn y’all want your fav gun buffed while I want mine nerfed

[candid olive]

which one is ur favorite

[nocturne flax]

revolver just need less ammo per ammopack

its fine as is imo

[candid olive]

i am a simp for a combat shotgun

[errant vigil]

No

Less damage on body

Way too good against what it’s not supposed to be good against

[light totem]

The other being a larger damage increase. 13.4>20 and probably a small precision nerf so it can’t deal with big ones as effectively. Then nerf it’s ammo to 10/50 (one mag an ammopack), increase recoil back to R1, and it’s fire rate from 220>175rpm

Just discussing DMR cause it’s role. Basically doesn’t exist z

Tho revolver I agree. Always have

[candid olive]

it sucks :P

make it secondary

[mortal granite]

pistol exist

[light totem]

If you argue support. You are wrong. Because autopistol is better in every way

And pistol for precision ^

[mortal granite]

precision

same as dmr

so just grab dmr

[candid olive]

autopistol is the best support weapon

[light totem]

Then you get shitty ammo efficiency and bad handling

Kekw

[nocturne flax]

dropoff starts at 8 meter dont ya think the distance its too slow for what it suppose to be a "long range" weapon

[nocturne flax]

Jesus christ lmao

[light totem]

More to balance the one shot ability. Since at range is basically the same

[candid olive]

join me in B3 adventure

[light totem]

I can’t see what you are quoting pos

Not to mention drop off is just damage. Since the game is hit scan

It’s just the meters it starts at then a linear drop in damage until it minimums out at 10% original damage at the end point

Super simple to test

[nocturne flax]

Use lfg

[candid olive]

no one joins :(

[light totem]

Oop

[west crow]

unless they rework how high weapons function, people aren't really going to accept them doing anything besides bargain bin support damage with the occasional support role

[magic wharf]

@light totem

[light totem]

No u

[magic wharf]

[frail zinc]

okay but like.. better heavy assault rifle sights when

not having a sight on that would be better than what it is right now

[pliant shard]

I like the sights on the HAR the only thing that I don’t get is the recoil. Doesn’t seem to have a pattern to me lol

[atomic escarp]

I feel like it zooms in too much

[frail zinc]

that sight is actually dog shit

[nocturne flax]

Recoil kinda ass not gonna lie

[frail zinc]

its like the DMR scope has a baby with the assault scope

[atomic escarp]

Wrong

[frail zinc]

and its a abomination

[atomic escarp]

DMR and Carbine's sight

But blue

[frail zinc]

carbine has good sights tho

[errant olive]

Next rundown gonna introduce the heavy heavy heavy assault rifle
Slows your movement speed by 40%

[frail zinc]

well thats one way to counter kiting

[west crow]

they're adding the new prisoner "bubba"

he's the tank class

[nocturne flax]

He uses a chainsaw?

[atomic escarp]

HAR might be their nerfed version of the MG in R1

[west crow]

ofc

[errant vigil]

Not hipfiring like a certain super Saiyan

[nocturne flax]

and sprints into survivor prisioners

[west crow]

😳

[frail zinc]

still the HAR sight gave me eye cancer

[west crow]

chainsaw sprint would be a great perk for bubba

[frail zinc]

[west crow]

I hope the sleepers brought kindred 😳

[frail zinc]

[light totem]

Bubba uses a modernized SKS as his primary

[west crow]

it is his favorite weapon, after all

[light totem]

Yup

All his voicelines are shitting on the AK-15

And the AR-47

[west crow]

OIH 'ATE DEH AYK KAY FIFTAEN

[nocturne flax]

Would be cool to have irl weapons inside GTFO as a reward

for beating the levels or doing some challenges

[light totem]

I want an M4 pattern rifle like the trailer

Ree

[pliant shard]

Golden ak47 for killing 100000 sleepers

[light totem]

But that wa prob unity store stuff

[nocturne flax]

m14

[light totem]

My guess. It was a placeholder from the unity store while they made their own weapon parts

[nocturne flax]

most likely placeholder ye, but how about look alikes from the irl versions

that would be cool

[pliant shard]

Yeah those early trailer videos had some cool guns 👀

[errant olive]

And some less cooler enemies

[pliant shard]

I liked the exploding potatoes

[light totem]

M4. M4 but burst. M4 but semi and called sniper

[nocturne flax]

M4 sniper

[light totem]

Kekw

I mean. SHTF 50

[errant olive]

Still fear the day I have to look up for them fucking cave leaches from drg

[fast creek]

[light totem]

But it wasn’t

[nocturne flax]

let me snipe the scout with my glock 19 real quick

[light totem]

It was just a the same model

Do it

[fast creek]

brb gonna snipe scout with an autopistol

[candid olive]

"HEY! CAN I HAVE SOME ATTENTION?"

[nocturne flax]

triggeredscout.mp3

[west crow]

why can't we use the melt locker on the scout 😦

[light totem]

I mean. You can stagger lock a scoot in stealth

[fast creek]

LOCK MELT THE HEAD

WOOOOOOOOO

[candid olive]

suck him up inside of the fog repeller

[pliant shard]

You can kill the scout with any primary weapons op pls nerf

[west crow]

just have the scout trip on a glowstick and break its neck

[light totem]

Bet

[errant olive]

Throw lockmelters like rocks

[fast creek]

scout go woOP

[candid olive]

use syringe on scout and let him spawn prisoners instead of monsters when he screams

[light totem]

20x “this place is beeeeeeg” lines go off at once

[fast creek]

Scout: Call an ambulance
Scout: looks at sleepers in room
Scout: but not for me

[west crow]

miss the scout kill

[candid olive]

WARDEN CONFIRMED 😳

[west crow]

scouts now have the burst cannon

[candid olive]

burst scouts

[fast creek]

thats called an awoken scout

[candid olive]

5 sets of tentacles at once

add versus mode like in l4d lol

[fast creek]

play as the scout

[errant vigil]

That would be boring

[fast creek]

just duck your head down when you're aboutta be hit

fucking hate it when that happens

[errant vigil]

I proceed to did to bc while not being able to walk more then a few steps

[candid olive]

40 minutes of staying still as sleeper while u wait for prisoners to come into the part of the building you're currently in

[errant olive]

I was practicing scout kills yesterday and one time the scout turned and blocked my hammer with his hand

[fast creek]

Sleeeper POV

oh my

[candid olive]

basically rock simulator

[errant vigil]

I become giant from scout wave “They’re not going to expect me”

[fast creek]

top 10 moments taken right before disaster

[errant olive]

When I hear a giant about to tongue I get scared

[candid olive]

slurp of death

[fast creek]

Giant tongue: exists
My health: oh no... oh no...

[candid olive]

OH LITTLE HELP HERE

[fast creek]

when giant attempts to tongue you when you at 20% health so you gotta become speed

[candid olive]

IM DOWN HELP ME OUT

[errant olive]

I always found it funny that every other character moan in pain when they’re down but woods screams his head off when he’s down

[nocturne flax]

Why do people want versus, didnt thye learn from fucking evolve, killing floor 2

[shy vessel]

we can discuss weapon stats now

[feral token]

guns bad hammer good

[nocturne flax]

actual ones?

[feral token]

discussion over

[glass sundial]

hammer goes 4

[nocturne flax]

dmr does 6.6

i didnt get ban

LETS GO BOYZ

[shy vessel]

soy get in here

[feral token]

maybe after the dust of this has settled a lil :)

[candid olive]

lets start another dmr discussion that will go for like 2 hours

[feral token]

no pls

[shy vessel]

[nocturne flax]

ye but this time well use actual values

!!!!

why the sudden change of hearth tho

[candid olive]

autopistol good support

[west crow]

Autopistol good at making things harder to hit 😡

[candid olive]

not when u spray n pray

[light totem]

Dmr needs to do 6.7 until 8 meters

Then drop-off end at 200

[nocturne flax]

we can actually use values

[light totem]

Dmr goes brr

Perhaps

Tbh kinda weird

[nocturne flax]

instead of lying to eachother with funky ass friendly fire values

yes

its fucking weird

[light totem]

13.4

[nocturne flax]

1x multi

agh

[light totem]

Lmao

[nocturne flax]

am i banned yet

[pliant shard]

Cya dragon

[nocturne flax]

do it

[candid olive]

oh not again with this dmr bullshiet

[light totem]

Bye bye dragon

[nocturne flax]

bye bye

[light totem]

Wait if you go bye bye. So do I

[frail zinc]

banned for being a dirty DMR user

even tho i too indulge in that activity

[light totem]

Lmao never

There is better than Dmr

[woven ridge]

I want spoilers, give me tall wide spoilers

[drowsy juniper]

||tall wide spoilers||

[pulsar zodiac]

||gtfo-spoiler-chat||

[light totem]

||chickens are thicc. Like extra wide thicc||

[thorn briar]

anyone had this bug when the game just looses pretty much all the sound (except for minor ambient noise)? any quick fix for that?

[vapid moon]

restart your game

or alert a scout

those two reset sound

[thorn briar]

damn, and that was me attempting to soloing d2 xD
guess I'll go and trigger the invisible one

[vapid moon]

does the sound sound quiet or muffled?

[thorn briar]

it's like when you stand on a scan

[vapid moon]

?

standing in scans doesnt mess with your audio?

[atomic escarp]

You can barely hear anything right?

[thorn briar]

hard to explain, I hear the fuzz from the nearby computers/servers, but nothing else

[vapid moon]

can you hear the abyss from the drop hole?

(where you spawned)

[thorn briar]

yep

[vapid moon]

aight so you got map bugged

first, try tabbing in and out of your map

this happens when you fail an expedition and your still tabbed into the map

if this still doesnt work, scout might reset, but might not work

only other way is to restart your game

when your about to get sent back to lobby, try to stay away from map

[thorn briar]

by tabbing you mean opening the map or alt+tab? either way, neither worked

[vapid moon]

then your gonna have to restart your game

[thorn briar]

noted, will keep that in mind, thanks!

[vapid moon]

if you really want to, try alerting scout

might not work tho

of course!

[thorn briar]

well, I'll give it a shot 😄

[vapid moon]

GL

[thorn briar]

well, tried two scouts - didn't help, gonna restart then

[vapid moon]

oof

[woven ridge]

@drowsy juniper @pulsar zodiac @light totem thank you all i desperately needed those

[dark bane]

Btw how do you properly mine the tank

just wondering

[mortal granite]

use your imagination

plant the mine so it first "contact" is the tumour

[craggy orbit]

I’d personally recommend against using that strat, but meh

Tanks really aren’t that bad to fight

[frail zinc]

Its legit more consistent to fight the tank instead of mine cheese

[mortal granite]

if you use the mine

just a reminder

you use at least 70% tool

and if the tank didn't die

you basically wasted 4 uses of tool pack

[atomic escarp]

In C1 I can get why you'd rather use mines to kill it

[mortal granite]

bruh

you can kill the tank in C1 in less than 5 seconds

[atomic escarp]

Because its a poorly designed level and the trickle spawns are annoying to deal with

Its not hard, just annoying

[mortal granite]

it's not annoying

it's just there

[atomic escarp]

For youwu

[mortal granite]

if you can walk in the extraction with 0 enemy

then it's not a C1 level

[obtuse cedar]

So what you are saying is A2 PE is a better lvl then C1

[atomic escarp]

They could have made the last door an alarm a surge alarm instead of the extract immediately popping out after the data sphere's done being injected

[mortal granite]

so what i'm saying that, A2 PE are just there

it's there so you can just skip B level to get to C

[obtuse cedar]

you're saying that C1 has no ennemies at extraction therefore shouldn't be a C level. while A2 PE will have ennemies at extraction because of the HSU

so should A2 have been a better level to be in place of C1?

personally i don't think so

[mortal granite]

A2 PE need overload to be "extra decent"

or else you could beat it in 3m 50s

[obtuse cedar]

you didn't answer the point though..

[mortal granite]

i did tho

A2 PE need overload to be decent

[atomic escarp]

If they aimed C1 to be the introductory level for the tank they really shouldn't have done the trickle alarm

[mortal granite]

enemy spawn at the extraction are like the same as C1

[remote karma]

It's a waste even if you kill the tank if you think about it 😉

[obtuse cedar]

i gave you the eeasiest level of this rundown that has ennemies flooding at extraction to compare your point of "no ennemy at extraction of C1 making in your opinion that level not classified as a C tier"

[mortal granite]

does A2 have a boss at the end?

[obtuse cedar]

no which is why i said that i think C1 was just fine.

[mortal granite]

and your point?

[obtuse cedar]

you don'T need a boss + extraction flooding

[mortal granite]

oh

so you want A1 extraction

[obtuse cedar]

for an introduction to a new boss yeah this is fine

[atomic escarp]

Really

A level where you first encounter the new boss type enemy, and you want a trickle alarm to make it more annoying than how it already is

[obtuse cedar]

your first time playing against it and figuring out how to beat it can leave MOST players with extremely low resources. and that would be just punishing them even more for trying to igure out how to deal with a new ennemy

[mortal granite]

it's basically 4 enemies

[obtuse cedar]

which is ok since you don'T have that much resources in the level when you are a less experienced player

yes for veteran it is easy

because veteran manages their resources well... from what i have seen of most players though... they don'T

[mortal granite]

idk if i get this but

[remote karma]

It's not even a boss if you have to ||kill it back to back in the E1||. Which doesn't mean it has to be easy when you see it for the 1st time.

[mortal granite]

you got at least 12 - 14 uses of ammo

[obtuse cedar]

oh yeah no don'T get me wrong. i do think there is way to much ammo. but i see a lot of people defaulting to their gun for everything

[mortal granite]

unless you're shooting the entire level

newer player when they got to C level they will be more stealthier

[obtuse cedar]

they are also more prone to make mistake more often

[mortal granite]

you can watch other new streamer that play this game in A level

and then compare it to C level or even D level

they will be more experience stealthing the level more in C

they shouldn't be in C level if they waste that much ammo in an empty room

[obtuse cedar]

maybe 🤷 never have the time to watch streamer

[light totem]

Wtf is going on here

[mortal granite]

C1 basically spawn 5 enemies

unless you go into I

[obtuse cedar]

look at it this way: C1 was the intro. so it should be easier then C2 and C3. C3 you deal with a tank + charger err alarm and have to fight on extraction. if we take a level before extension that would be the equivalent of D2 for boss + err shadows + chargers extraction alarm. Point is to introduce a new ennemy you don't need to have a flood of ennemy right after the new ennemy especially if it is a boss

[mortal granite]

why not?

you killed the tank and then nothing happen?

it was a sleeping tank too

and you're using PE vs high

[obtuse cedar]

well you can't really sneak it with the error alarm... at some point he will wake up

[mortal granite]

that's why the game want you to use

multiple strat?

c foam?

mine?

sentry?

[light totem]

PE/ extreme isn’t classified as C tier. It’s just a layer

[mortal granite]

the game reward you to play it smart

not blindly running around with hammer

[light totem]

Blindly run around with hammer = profit

Ez

20 hp makes it too easy

[errant saffron]

Blindly running around with hammers is the meta

[obtuse cedar]

pretty much

[light totem]

It really is

Literally you get infinite health and the most powerful min max weapon one can ask for

And it just feels good to use

[errant saffron]

Doesn't mean it's more fun, or even intended to be that way, just the way the meta turned out to be

[light totem]

It’s more fun

[atomic escarp]

Unless you're me and can't hammer duel giants mid-wave clear

[light totem]

Fact

Ricardo. You’ve heard from me about regular franks

[errant saffron]

I disagree personally, but different opinions are fun too

[atomic escarp]

When forget When remember now but 30 minutes later

[frail zinc]

c1 gives you so many resources, and if you want more you can always open the rest of the blood doors

[vapid moon]

does a2's error alarm also have a 15 sec grace period

[hollow socket]

What's a grace period ?

[atomic escarp]

Do you mean is there 15 seconds between when you kill a error wave?

With how chaotic my experience in A2 error alarm is, it feels like there's no cooldown

[vapid moon]

no i mean when you pull the error alarm, it waits 15 seconds to spawn one then goes for the 30 sec cycle like in r4e1 tank alarm

[frail zinc]

A2 spawns 2 enemies every 20 seconds

iirc

[atomic escarp]

I'm not sure on the timing there is, I'd just go in and test it if you're that curious

[mortal granite]

15 seconds

[hollow socket]

Oh and btw Captain alpha, I tried the "Open the overload door but don't go in, so the wave can't spawn in the overload zone" but it didn't work. The first waves spawn outside, the moment we opened the door, they spawned in overload zone 😦

[mortal granite]

ye

i got a really lucky "test" run

[hollow socket]

I guess

I don't like the forward spawn mechanic 😄

[mortal granite]

that's made me sad

[atomic escarp]

What I do is I bring bio and sniper

: ^ )

You know what happens next

[mortal granite]

well, i'm currently testing all the alarm mechanic

Alarm guide video

[hollow socket]

Cool 🙂

[mortal granite]

Soon™

[hollow socket]

I wish it works like you've said tho 😄

not gonna lie

[mortal granite]

it's gonna be cheesier than perma foam

and it could possibly make C3 PE easier

or i might say again, "cheesier"

[hollow socket]

Never try C3 PE yet so, i can only trust you

[mortal granite]

a direct attack to error alarm

[hollow socket]

So I guess C3 overload is an error alarm

[vapid moon]

google has word definitions

[mortal granite]

seeing wesley kiting a full alarm for almost 1 hour

or more than an hour

it's kinda painful

[hollow socket]

Tedious even, but hey, tha's solo play for now I guess

[mortal granite]

with my method

it's gonna reduce it a bit

even easier if you know "the way"

B3 PE solo cough

[frail zinc]

Alpha pls