gtfo-spoiler-chat

[forest hound]

People just think sentries are as simple as place it down. Then your sentry has no ammo after wave

[desert shell]

i know

[errant vigil]

People just take the easy mine + c-foam route

[desert shell]

but your teammates say place here

and no rants

[forest hound]

I still do scans with cfoam

I don't need to be standing at a door perma foaming stuff

[desert shell]

I run mines but end up wasting them for safety of the team

[forest hound]

Mines are either underused or overused

[desert shell]

yep

[forest hound]

It's ok to place a bunch on mines at stuff but then when the horde is upon ya please close the door behind you and use a damn mine

[desert shell]

i know

[forest hound]

Don't just start shooting the 20 enemies that's been my experience with randoms

I wasn't meaning you mash btw

[errant vigil]

or

don't fuck up stealth

[forest hound]

1 mine for a potential 8 or so kills is well worth it

Ha don't mess up stealth in pubs sure

[errant vigil]

Sadly stealth isn't as important as it used to be in the game

[forest hound]

Stealth solo is easy

Stealth in pubs is pain

[errant vigil]

not really

if you take it slow and work with them

it's not that hard

[desert shell]

people be jumpin and smashing heds

[errant vigil]

account for fuck ups

[dreamy bramble]

i just get annoyed when i try to double/triple kill and some random sprints across the entire room trying to help

[desert shell]

thats where I learned my bad stealth

[dreamy bramble]

and blames me for alerting

[errant vigil]

yea kiting needs a nerf and stealthing needs to be more important

[atomic escarp]

I've learned from playing pubs, at least have one more player that knows how to stealth like you do

And then show the other two how to duo stealth giants

: ^ )

[errant vigil]

ye true

[mortal granite]

now we have tank

just it in with 5 scouts

with 2 small mothers

[errant vigil]

more chargers and mothers and tanks in rooms

[desert shell]

anyone know how to dodge tank yet?

[atomic escarp]

Leave it's LOS

[errant vigil]

or a new common enemy that actually punishes you when fucking up stealth

[atomic escarp]

Seeing my teammates magdump a single giant is punishment enough for me

[desert shell]

ouch

[errant vigil]

I mean if it's the last enemy it's not that big of a deal

[heavy wave]

if you are with a burst cannon, you wouldnt have this problem

[desert shell]

I tried to solo a giant before

[errant vigil]

one hammer to back of head and a few special shots

[desert shell]

with hammer

[hoary garden]

probably worst thing is someone failing a scout thats alone

and then the scout wave spawns ahead

[heavy wave]

i mean, thats why you back out when you fuck up a scout

[desert shell]

Nah my worst experience with scouts

is

D1 last room

[heavy wave]

with mothers?

[forest hound]

You can hammer giants easy enough

[heavy wave]

or the giant chargers, chargers and giants mixed in?

[atomic escarp]

can you hit the body for a scout with burst cannon or is it only the head

[desert shell]

nah the one with 5 scouts

[atomic escarp]

You can 1 burst a scout to the body with the burst cannon

cause normally i aim for the head and fuck up

[heavy wave]

Didnt work for me ricardo

[desert shell]

you can kill a scout with a full charge backshot

[dreamy bramble]

it takes like 2 or 3 bullets to the body

[atomic escarp]

but been trying to melee scouts more often

[desert shell]

but you need the IIX syringe

[mortal granite]

you bc scout on the body and not the back

if it didn't die, that mean your shot didn't stagger it = 5 shots now only hit 2

if it did die, that mean you stagger the scout = 5 shots hit

[atomic escarp]

fuck it ima just melee scouts

[desert shell]

I like to shoot scoots for the sure ded

[atomic escarp]

bash them fuckrs in the head

[forest hound]

A3 practice time

Spend 8 hours like me on A3 practice

[desert shell]

B2 better

[forest hound]

Nah A3 better

8 hours says so

[dreamy bramble]

b3 ext best

[heavy wave]

B2 on extreme?

[desert shell]

yes

[atomic escarp]

A1 overload

[forest hound]

Hold on A1 do-

Damnit

[heavy wave]

A2 extreme :D

[desert shell]

A1 prisoner effeciency

[atomic escarp]

anyone wanna run E2 PE

[forest hound]

Sure sounds easy

[heavy wave]

I want to do F1 Ext

👍

[atomic escarp]

A1 with error alarm and bloody door

[heavy wave]

how is it A1 with those?

well blood door i dont mind

but err alarm on A1?

[atomic escarp]

error alarm with like

[heavy wave]

straight from the start?

[atomic escarp]

naw

if you're overload

[heavy wave]

sad boi

[atomic escarp]

but of course there isn't one

but 3 sleepers every 2 min

[heavy wave]

hum, A2 err alarm is 3 sleepers every 30 seconds

:S

[atomic escarp]

heck

so every 1 min

2 sleepers every 1 min

[heavy wave]

45seconds, take it or leave it

[atomic escarp]

deal

[errant vigil]

A2 error is 2 sleeper around every 20 secs

There is no scream for them so it's hard to tell when they spawn

[desert shell]

B2 extreme scout kil

[forest hound]

Nah you gotta find the bulkhead key and do multiple scans with A3 you run forward take a right then a left then another left and you are there

Braindead practice

[desert shell]

I killed both scout yay

[atomic escarp]

need something harder than apex door

[desert shell]

bloody apex door

[forest hound]

Opens the door just to see 5 giant chargers standing there

"Prepare to get pounded"

[desert shell]

Audio test loop plays

[devout river]

Something higher than a class 9 door when

They should just make a C tier level similar to R2B1 where the big challenge is a high class alarm door but make it higher than Class 9

[granite scarab]

Class XX when >:)

[frail zinc]

technically errors are class infinity

[dreamy bramble]

huh

[solemn wigeon]

Check leaks

[twilit remnant]

warden you like a shitty day huh

[dreamy bramble]

that's actually so sick

[solemn wigeon]

That design works well imo

[twilit remnant]

it looks like aperture labs

[dreamy bramble]

looks so much better than every other environment in the game wow

[solemn wigeon]

Time to wait months for the next leak

[pseudo pumice]

10cc is giving us portal 3

finally

[solemn wigeon]

I saw a mapper tool in the corner of the leak

[pseudo pumice]

lmao i wish

[solemn wigeon]

We love mapper

[light totem]

Mapper R5

OwO

[dreamy bramble]

also autopistol confirmed r5?

pretty sure he's holding one

[solemn wigeon]

Autopistol nerf: no stagger, no damage, 3 bullets per mag

[dreamy bramble]

don't think the machinepistol was ever shown in r3 leaks

but yeah it could happen

[light totem]

Br was shown

For r3

[solemn wigeon]

But it would make sense, since they design the environments first

[light totem]

It’s just them testing. No official weapon stuff yet

[pulsar zodiac]

that looks really good

[light totem]

That it does

Hopefully not as bad as labs and data center

[dreamy bramble]

i like labs a lot

data center is too samey imo

[light totem]

It feels like it’ll be more like storage

[pulsar zodiac]

data center is just lab extension

[solemn wigeon]

If its going to be a sewer style environment then we should expect this to be a small rundown

[dreamy bramble]

?

[pulsar zodiac]

not all missions are gonna sewer theme

[light totem]

Close quarters maybe

Which would be hot

[solemn wigeon]

Fair

[robust marsh]

agree

but thats a very good level design

[solemn wigeon]

Melee only levels when

[robust marsh]

love it

[turbid cliff]

damn that's a nice environment

[pulsar zodiac]

we only have like 3~4 data center this rundown

[dreamy bramble]

probably the most unique environment we've seen yet

i'm hyped

[robust marsh]

wait

thats zone 2

...

and swers

[turbid cliff]

no it's placeholder

[light totem]

So

[robust marsh]

and lighting

[light totem]

What storm said

[robust marsh]

IS THAT SURFACE I SEEK

THAT LOOKS LIKE SURFACE FOR ME

[pulsar zodiac]

maybe A1

[robust marsh]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[turbid cliff]

considering how lights on the right side look, safe to say that's not surface light on the left either

[solemn wigeon]

What if the smaller zones start lower down this rundown 👀👀

[robust marsh]

it may not be surface

but its so dam close to it

as plants have overgrown

[errant vigil]

It mostlikely not

[robust marsh]

and the area dose not look like its super far down

[turbid cliff]

we've seen plants in lab

[solemn wigeon]

Greenhouse environment maybe

[errant vigil]

C2 starts at zone 7

[robust marsh]

hmm fair ya

i forgot about that

as it looks

i think its a very old part of the town

not town

complex

XD

[solemn wigeon]

Sleeper Town

[errant vigil]

Zone numbers don’t really have depth feel to them

[robust marsh]

ya

dont know why

[errant vigil]

Especially with layered

[light totem]

I really hope this has good cqc and chargie central

:D

[robust marsh]

but still it looks like it was built at the first areas of the complex

close to surface

[errant vigil]

Ye

[solemn wigeon]

Honestly the zone numbers might just be the order the zones were built.

[robust marsh]

agree

[alpine saddle]

SEWERS

[robust marsh]

but that means that C2 zone were built before zones in A1?

[solemn wigeon]

It's possible

[novel wasp]

Maybe this is close to the surface, we are looking for warden's wedding ring that slipped down the drain.

[errant vigil]

And zone number have overlapped from previous rundowns

iirc

[robust marsh]

at least doors now have a better frame work

if you see there is a very good frame work for a door way

that i love

[solemn wigeon]

I asked about that, and someone suggested that the different environments have their own zone numbers

[robust marsh]

press x to not doubt

[twilit remnant]

you know what i really want, the hoards like in the alpha trailer

[robust marsh]

you mean 50+ enemys

[twilit remnant]

yes

[novel wasp]

Sounds like we need more bullets

[robust marsh]

it whould be nice to see the spawn cap go up

[solemn wigeon]

I want more durable enemies

[twilit remnant]

it would be fu

gun

fun

[light totem]

I want more durable enemies
Bruh

[twilit remnant]

ah so quaddy wants tanks but upgraded

[light totem]

They already eat so many bullets

[solemn wigeon]

I'm talking about sleepers

The standard ones

[twilit remnant]

so tanks

tanks

but more bullets

[light totem]

Brawlers when

[novel wasp]

Noooooooo not armored bonk proof sleepers

[solemn wigeon]

No, strikers with slightly more health

[twilit remnant]

i want to fight the robots

oh so shooters

[errant vigil]

CC enemy when

[pulsar zodiac]

giant striker with boxing gloves

[robust marsh]

others: i want new enemy i want more lore
me: i want the voice lines from the trailers

[robust marsh]

oh god

[solemn wigeon]

Voice lines =lore change my mind

[twilit remnant]

shooters have 60 health vs stryker 40

[novel wasp]

I just wanna dakkadakka

[twilit remnant]

i want a buffed MG

[robust marsh]

agree

[hoary garden]

mg but it actually does damage

[novel wasp]

Gib suppressor pls

[robust marsh]

better sight

[twilit remnant]

or or, low damage high fire rate

[robust marsh]

SHUT! YOU HAVE AWAKEN THE DEAMONS

[solemn wigeon]

I want rocket launchers

[twilit remnant]

ewww suyppressor what are you bad?

[novel wasp]

What deamons

[twilit remnant]

eww explosives what are you bad?

[novel wasp]

Yes :(

[twilit remnant]

get good then

[robust marsh]

agree

[hoary garden]

wait, how does HEL revo oneshot shooter to face if it has more hp than striker?

[solemn wigeon]

Can't call them explosives because that includes trip mines

[twilit remnant]

bigger multiplier??

[pulsar zodiac]

If it were a bad demoman, you wouldn't be sitting here discussing it with us, now would you?

[robust marsh]

was going to say

[light totem]

Yeah shooters have more multiplier

[novel wasp]

I try to git gud but end up dead

[hoary garden]

huh never knew

[twilit remnant]

hel revo has the best damage per shot for every bullet

[solemn wigeon]

Git gudder

[light totem]

Since they rely on the head

[turbid cliff]

it doesn't

[robust marsh]

wait lol i just saw the hel part

[light totem]

Sniper does

[robust marsh]

ya hel rev dose not one shot

sniper ofc

[light totem]

Lmao

[twilit remnant]

sniper one shots everything charger down

im so fucking glad ive gotten better at bonking scouts

b2 has given me enough practice

...untill some braindead idiot runs into a tentacle when i was trying to drop on her

[hoary garden]

assassin's creed

[twilit remnant]

I assassin's creed a lot of scouts

But I can't do it when I have 3 idiots run into a tentacle while trying to rush bonk

[novel wasp]

Teach us idiots to bonk better

[pulsar zodiac]

hold M1

release M1

[errant vigil]

I mean rushing through tentacles and bonking works

[novel wasp]

Error, room is angry at bonk

[hoary garden]

just sprint hop lol

[errant vigil]

As long as scout dies it doesn’t really what method is used unless multi scouts

[hoary garden]

only case where you are really screwed is multiple scouts that are near many sleepers

[novel wasp]

How does that work, does hopping not wake them up?

[hoary garden]

hopping can get you to the scout as fast as sprinting, but not waking the sleepers as much

[errant vigil]

Nothing wakes them except gunshots and touch

[hoary garden]

so you can bop scout without waking the others

sleepers screaming also wakes scout

[novel wasp]

How much of a charge does it take to bonk a scout, full I assume?

[errant vigil]

Sleeper waking up in very close proximity to scout also wakes it up

[forest hound]

Nah you can like 90% charge a scout

[novel wasp]

And can you sneak under the tenticles?

[errant vigil]

Yes

[forest hound]

But it's practically a full charge

Same with locks. I feel like full charge isn't even a full circle

[pulsar zodiac]

that's what I feel

[atomic escarp]

you dont need to full charge

[novel wasp]

I have busted locks on less than a full charge.

[atomic escarp]

14/16th of a charge is fine

[sick hornet]

i always like 80% locks

[pulsar zodiac]

you don't need the circle full to kill charger hitting their back

[novel wasp]

I was gonna say, close to 3/4 but a little more

[atomic escarp]

you fail to break it 1 shot if you 80%

its def 90%

[forest hound]

It's better to just smack it if you are close enough to have a clean smack though. You should already have a full charge by that point

Unless it crab walks

Crab walk ruins everything

[subtle vault]

🦀

[hoary garden]

randomly turning around at the last second be like

[novel wasp]

Same weakness pattern on the scout as the striker too?

[atomic escarp]

yes

it goes for all sleepers unless they have some alteration to them

[hoary garden]

best way to kill scout is HEL revo

double tap to back of head

🔫

[atomic escarp]

charger has no headshot modifier, only occiput and back

[forest hound]

Back head bonks probably work fine too. Harder to test though

[errant vigil]

It’s just back

[atomic escarp]

and enemies that have sacks to hit have immunity anywhere else

[novel wasp]

When is the best time to bonk a scout, or is there a time when you shouldn't bonk

[hoary garden]

whenever you have clean shot at head

[forest hound]

They may have different parts but the only unique/2x multiplier on charger is the back

[hoary garden]

also no other sleepers nearby who can wake up

staircases also help a lot

[sick hornet]

chargers dont have occiput damage, only back

also sack enemies arent immune, tested this, it just takes a LOT of shots

[forest hound]

Shooting scout on staircase big no no

[errant vigil]

Yea technically they have a occiput but no multi from head

[forest hound]

It'll duck into the stairs and ruin your day

[sick hornet]

do they really? thats neat

[atomic escarp]

charger has front head protection

not back

[forest hound]

Erm no it's just normal damage

[sick hornet]

fair enough

[atomic escarp]

if the back was also armored then yes it only calculates back damage

[forest hound]

I believe it used to have reduced damage but that got changed.

Front damage and back damage is all that really is to consider with charger. Unless you wanna stagger em

Front being a no multiplier. Back being a charged swing kill basically.

As for scouts ducking into stairs. That's just my luck being non existent

[hoary garden]

similar thing with big dudes clipping into walls

you get the triple back hit and then they lurch into the wall

and double swipe you

[forest hound]

Always keep your distance though and backstep after swinging and you can keep staggering big dudes before they can attack again.

[errant vigil]

Hitting back of head will fix that

[forest hound]

Or getting behind them stops their tongues hitting you too

Just don't run through them or you will feel like you just stepped in the ring with a champ

[hoary garden]

yeah you need to bait their double swipe then go in for the hammer

[errant vigil]

Or stagger them before tongue 👀

[hoary garden]

"watch captain alpha solo hammer guide"

[forest hound]

You don't need to bait the double swipe

[novel wasp]

Had a giant wake up when I stealth bonked a striker from 20 meters away once.

[twilit remnant]

chargers have no multipliers

[forest hound]

Chargers have back multiplier.

[twilit remnant]

just shoot them with a sniper

[errant vigil]

True

[forest hound]

Damn you're right

C3PE here I go

[twilit remnant]

like

wait isnt c3 PE basically error alarm

[forest hound]

4 chargers every...

someone know the exact number?

[twilit remnant]

yeah rip ammo

you can kill 10 chargers

[forest hound]

Sniper might be the only situation where you can run out of ammo in the pe

every other weapons should give you enough ammo

[twilit remnant]

sniper and MAYBE autopistol

[forest hound]

Autopistol works fine

I use it for nearly everything

[errant vigil]

C3 error is the only really challenging error alarm

[twilit remnant]

ive never did c3 because im stuck in the Bs

because my team still abandonded me and all the randos i get paird with are bad.

[forest hound]

Sniper sentry with autopistol on C3PE maybe

[twilit remnant]

i cant kill a scout in b2 PE because people keep running into the damn things

[errant vigil]

Think about what you could have done better than blame others

At least that’s my mentality

[twilit remnant]

i kinda cant do anything when im trying to bonk scouts and a dude mindlessly runs in

[forest hound]

Scouts in B2 PE are a problem in the overload.

[twilit remnant]

yeah

the kiting room is fun

i love it

but people keep walking into them when i mark them with Bio

[pseudo vine]

Its a team game so blaming any one person for failing a mission is generally pretty pointless imo

[forest hound]

Your PFP suits that mentality

[twilit remnant]

yes but scouts

activated

when i call them out

because people walk into them

[forest hound]

If that's the case then why are you playing with blind people. I mean challenge aside the game is hard enough

[twilit remnant]

i cant tell randos to not walk blindlessly into a room

they ignore meeeee

[forest hound]

Let them learn

It's ok to fail

[pseudo vine]

If you hate running with randos, run solo or get a group of friends

[twilit remnant]

this

[forest hound]

Sure 200 hours in and I still don't have a group

[pseudo vine]

Fair enough. I pretty much exclusively run with randos myself, but I prefer it that way tbh

[forest hound]

I understand that.

[twilit remnant]

im on my 25th try for b2 rn

[forest hound]

I just have a hard time playing with randoms now.

[pulsar zodiac]

different kind of experiences with different randos makes it fun

[forest hound]

It's a bit hard after playing with teams that actually say hello back and you can have a small conversation with

[pulsar zodiac]

had a rando I had a 3 hrs conversation after the game

[errant vigil]

I have a hard time with randoms too I’m typically too quiet and play way to aggressively, so I feel like I ruin either experience

[inner sundial]

looking into this game, is it worth ? many people playing servers ? performance?

[forest hound]

You get the players that won't stop acting like they know everything too

I wouldn't stick around in the spoiler chat to learn

[turbid cliff]

-> #gtfo-chat

[twilit remnant]

i want players that know what they are doing

not "i just did a1 now i wanna do b2PE because i can"

[forest hound]

Eh I don't care really. It's all for fun after I beat a level

[pseudo vine]

Thats honestly the type of players I dislike the most

[hollow socket]

Then create a lfg and ask for the requierements you want

[forest hound]

The optionals are added bonuses

[twilit remnant]

i still get a1 players wanting to do b2PE

[errant vigil]

That’s me sometimes so I try not to play with randos I become a dickhead and that’s not fun for anyone

[forest hound]

People don't like that sort of thing in my experience.

[pseudo vine]

I can deal with a bad player, but a person who yells at me the whole game telling me what to do is just unfun

[forest hound]

It's like an early sign of toxicity

[hollow socket]

Explain to this person that you're looking for experience, it's normal to do this.

LFG3 B2PE, experienced with the level requiered

[pseudo vine]

Speaking of requirements, I saw this one LFG put out that looked like a resume.

[twilit remnant]

LOL me too

i see multiple

[errant vigil]

It’s a meme for some and not a meme for others

I’m typically open to let my group fail and learn rather than have to play perfect

[pseudo vine]

Agreed. Playing perfect actually makes the game more boring imo. The games all about making mistakes then dealing with the aftermath.

[quaint yarrow]

Does anyone know how the damage calculation works on tanks? For instance, does a burst cannon popping a tumor do more damage to the tank then a choke mod shotgun popping a tumor? Or is it all the same?

[twilit remnant]

im fine with mistakes. but once you walk into a scout ignoring the fact it has its tenticles out, ill get angy

[errant vigil]

It happens

I run bio and I fucking run into scouts

[turbid cliff]

they're not exactly an easy enemy to test and confirm on

you already asked and got an answer in another channel

[twilit remnant]

no i mark the scouts. i shine flashlight on scout

and people walk into scout ignoring the fact theres a scout infront of them

[inner sundial]

why you such a dick

[turbid cliff]

🤔

[forest hound]

Just don't pay attention to it. You get some sweaty players in these channels. Most of us are nice and arguing here isn't recommended. 😔

[turbid cliff]

am i or are you reading it like i am

[calm vessel]

[turbid cliff]

the new players asking "worth to play" here is a genuine question, what answer but "yes" can you expect?

[calm vessel]

Maybe more insight on the game

[forest hound]

So passive aggressive.

[calm vessel]

Aside from an answer with no substance

[turbid cliff]

then you could always ask something more specific so you get a better answer

helping others help you

[forest hound]

Allow players to ask the questions they wanna ask instead of gatekeeping to your standards of questions please

Otherwise players won't get the game when they ask

[turbid cliff]

the irony in saying that when i just said that was a genuine question

[hollow socket]

mooving on

[forest hound]

You did the same thing to me in the past. I won't argue in these channels but try to be a little nicer to new people.

[turbid cliff]

in a public server there's all kinds of people

if i look dry and rude to you then that's just how i look from your perspective by nature

i'm not being particularly positive or negative here

[tired charm]

Ur fun 🙃

Jkjk

[light totem]

Storm just states facts and says if you are right or wrong

Simple. No hard feeling

[novel wasp]

Stormtrooper did nothing wrong in my eyes.

[light totem]

^

[turbid cliff]

think we can drop that topic

[light totem]

[devout river]

Wow the new environment looks pretty cool

[forest hound]

Yeah I like the plants and all that.

and the fact that I see the autopistol

[tough totem]

DEATH TO ALL LIFE

[forest hound]

But plants mean potential for dead withered plants

[tough totem]

live plants do not equal dead plants

[forest hound]

Can't have death without a little life

[tough totem]

death is permanent

[forest hound]

death is inevitable

death just made me depressed

[vapid moon]

i think thats enough unus annus

[tough totem]

enjoy it while you can

[noble chasm]

new rundown pic looks cool

reminds me of portal 2

[forest hound]

Now that you mention it really does

[devout river]

I was thinking that too

Like the first area that’s all run down and overgrown

[vapid moon]

gtfo is actually just secretly portal 3

[tough totem]

but where portal?

[robust marsh]

portal story line ended a long time ago

idk why you all want another one

[tough totem]

i don't

story ended good

[robust marsh]

it was a very good ending

and now we are waiting for half life 3

to end that story

as it is being made

[vapid moon]

people can want more because they liked the gameplay

[robust marsh]

why smol warden Z

why that name

[tough totem]

likely because small

[vapid moon]

cause im a smaller warden maybe?

[robust marsh]

hmmmmmmmmm press x to doubt

[solemn wigeon]

I'm bad

[lyric narwhal]

why

[solemn wigeon]

I woke up a shadow giant

By walking into it

[robust marsh]

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

[lyric narwhal]

feels bad

[robust marsh]

everyone did that once

[lyric narwhal]

could be worse

[robust marsh]

agree

like wakeing up a mother with a long range flash light

[solemn wigeon]

Lol

[lyric narwhal]

coulda walked into a shadow scout

[solemn wigeon]

But this was in the last zone of fog in e1

Like the last room

By the security door

[lyric narwhal]

oof

[solemn wigeon]

Sucks

[lyric narwhal]

well hope your future runs are more fortunate

[vapid moon]

how about no

[obtuse surge]

what if the warden is a tall vampire lady

[west crow]

god i wish

[obtuse surge]

[pseudo pumice]

@queen field Let’s not go there, please

[queen field]

????

Wait what happened ?

Did i say something wrong ??

[light totem]

sounds like you stumbled on their nono square

[twilit remnant]

UwU

[queen field]

Was it about the warden thing ?

Here i thought people would like that 😳

[shrewd flume]

anyone got anymore of those r5 leaks? I need MORE

[queen field]

Ludvig probably

[mossy yoke]

I do. But don't think you're ready for them yet ;)

[queen field]

I'm always ready to hug some scouts

[shrewd flume]

Guess I'll go through all of R4 again.

[nocturne flax]

Can i get a door again

[brittle light]

I’ve seen like 2 different people like that

One that’s like a resume, as in “looking for lists a lot of maps and difficulties, have done lists all experiences” aka my own (kekw)

And one that was basically a list of like 50 fucking requirements on what u need to do, think, know, have done, be, etc...

[slim brook]

anyone know which terminal has the logs in c3?

[craggy orbit]

Zone 322, I think?

Don’t quote me on that though

[meager elk]

"Zone 322, I think?"-Izal

[craggy orbit]

....Yes?

Oh lmao

I’m dumb and slow

[slim brook]

Fuck.

I just failed overload miserably I don't feel like doing all that again for logs

[craggy orbit]

z322 is what’s listed in one of my friends’ messages on another server, just not 100% on the accuracy

[slim brook]

Isn't 322 and 321 the randomization of where the HSU is though?

[craggy orbit]

Yeeeaaah

[slim brook]

It'd be unfair to get 321 for HSU then

its not the logs one

😠

[craggy orbit]

I wouldn’t put it past them

[slim brook]

me and my friends opened overload by mistake and we went

haha funny moment lets go get bulkhead and leave no need to do overload

so we go and we find the bulk in 323 so we're like

let's do the HSU it can't be that hard

and then I mentioned how 323 just has a locker and a terminal that's kinda sus

and my friend was like HAHA IMAGINE TANK WALKS OUT

and we laughed...

we shouldn't have laughed..

[craggy orbit]

You wanna see sus, you sit on bio and watch that door spawn a single enemy LOL

[slim brook]

@vital token

He just lived through this

[craggy orbit]

I had bio on my first jaunt through the overload

[slim brook]

My man went "Fuck you" to my friend who mention tank

[craggy orbit]

Saw one dot like ”Uhhhhhhhhhhh”

[vital token]

wasnt funny at all

[slim brook]

😔

[craggy orbit]

Haha funny ice cream man

One of my usual teammates likes to make pen on paper maps of the overall level layouts

He denotes tanks with an ice cream cone

[slim brook]

Damnn

one of our friends likes to draw the layout in paint

The takeaway is.. never make jokes about what's behind a door.

[craggy orbit]

Reminds me of the first ever blood door, back in R2B1...

First time we saw hybrids :)

[vital token]

bruh I remember that so well

I was like who's banging I can't see no one on my bio

[craggy orbit]

I remember the feeling of sheer ”o h .”

As there was just, a storm of projectiles suddenly.

[meager elk]

i pissed my pants when there were only shooters in a room and they all fired at once

[mortal granite]

solo player dream

[slim brook]

reminds me of the warden door in D1 when you fuck up and the sleeping hypers all turn this shit into 4th of july

[meager elk]

oh yeah, those and the big shooters making it a bloody techno concert

[desert shell]

new environment looks different

it doesn't give the feel of modern but natural zone in the complex

[mortal granite]

PLANT ENEMY CONFIRM?

[quaint yarrow]

E1 is hard

[nocturne flax]

As it should

[atomic escarp]

You know what else is hard?

[desert shell]

it looks like some sort of sewer from the pipe sticking out

or a floodgate

[frail zinc]

Tank takes a bath

[queen nymph]

New enemy: Plant

[atomic escarp]

bruh i stg

[shy vessel]

if we get water as a mechanic for r5 it will be the hypest shit ever

[dawn ginkgo]

I can't be the only one to melee giant chargers thinking they are normal ones, right?

legit i ended a c3 run after opening main door and a giant charger was on the stairs, i went around it and hit it, 1 seconds later everyone starts screaming. I turn around as the giant starts back-handing everyone.

[turbid cliff]

It sure would be nice if it weren't a literal charger but bigger

[lavish cloak]

I've done that a few times, now I check every one with my light to hear which it is if I know it is somewhere the big ones spawn

[light totem]

That’s true. Uncle joe easier the melee than normal giants

[errant olive]

I feel like if you managed to get a picture of 4 of them running out of the bulkhead you would get a great “There is no meme, DIE”

[pulsar zodiac]

chargers float on water in r5

[mortal granite]

dead corpses in sewer?

[turbid cliff]

Conversely they become weaker as that black stuff comes off

[unborn sorrel]

With C2 Overload is the shadows that spawn when you pick up the data sphere an error alarm or is it just one wave?

[digital dawn]

error

[unborn sorrel]

I suppose it's not that bad if you've prepped to extraction

[dreamy bramble]

invest in mines

[meager elk]

oh dear God i have PTSD from shadows

[dreamy bramble]

in most pubs i can have at least 16 mines on the map

[meager elk]

from previous rundowns

[craggy orbit]

It’s an error but it’s only like waves of 3, it’s not bad

[dreamy bramble]

spare tool after overload goes right into mines cause sentries are useless and foam is eh

[craggy orbit]

Do people really not like meleeing shadows or what, because I’ll do that all day lmao

[dreamy bramble]

i'm lazy

[craggy orbit]

Valid

[meager elk]

the issue is seeing them during stealth without bio

[dreamy bramble]

i just love runs where i can convince people to forget about the sentries and i end with nearly 30 mines

[meager elk]

you can't or barely can

[dreamy bramble]

pretty much nothing reaches you

[craggy orbit]

Not talking stealth though, talking the C2 error

[meager elk]

oh

[lavish cloak]

The R3A2 solo clear was a lot of fun because you ended up having every tool refill in your minelayer. Just listening as the extraction waves tried to get past your fun house 10/10

4 people with minelayers also worked, and that got you 21 extra mines

[fierce mantle]

A1 optional, how to use the uplink connect

[atomic escarp]

Uplink_connect (IP address given)

Terminal gives highlighted text like X07. Teammates call out the 4 letter code that corresponds to X07

In the terminal you input UPLINK_VERIFY (4 letter code)

[fierce mantle]

got it thanks

[atomic escarp]

If I get something wrong, call me an idiot

[fierce mantle]

no worries and thanks

[fair hill]

to make it easier as well, you can use up arrow on your keyboard to nab the previously typed command, so you don't have to type uplink_verify each time you do a new code

[pliant shard]

Dummy

[sacred slate]

hey for D2 zone_99, what class alarm is it? it just says alarm detected

[atomic escarp]

Class 4 iirc

[sacred slate]

thanks

[mighty pond]

Class III

Both z99 and z97 are class III, one is a surge and one isn't

[pliant shard]

97 is a surge because it has turbine. 99 is a whacky all big red circle scan for resources

Can only pick one since there’s only 1 cell

[craggy orbit]

Yeppers

[lavish cloak]

How many resources other than the turbine are actually in 97? Even just doing extreme it seems not worth the time and effort wasted to get the turbine when you can also just get away with being fast

Or is the fog faster than I think?

[west crow]

The extreme, overload, and base high resources are more than enough to speed through and still have enough to spare. Time is your only technical non replenish able resource, so it's often better to ignore the cell zones just because of the time sink.

Doesn't mean you can't do them, it's just easier not to.

[mighty pond]

It's essentially not worth the fog turbine in 97.

[obtuse surge]

[unborn sorrel]

Well we died to the shadow waves at the end : \

I found C2 such a goddamn marathon level

[quick dome]

it is

[unborn sorrel]

It didn't seem like waves of 3 though since we got to one of the doors and there was about 15 shadows in front of us

[obtuse surge]

because 2 rooms away isn't an actual distance

it could be very close to you but it could also be very far away from you

recent close spawns meeting up with old far spawns

a strat people use is to just allow it to cap out

not caring about whats falling behind but only killing whats ahead or already on you

you nearly outrun shadows at walking speed

so if you can close doors and maybe even c foam them you literally won't have to worry about those shadows anymore until extraction

[hearty bridge]

im just curious and i have bad memory so my question is:
every level on every rundown had unique zone numbers?

[hoary garden]

nah there is overlap

remember some talk about exactly this like

yesterday

[robust marsh]

ye

we talked about it when the ludvig leak came out

saying that the zone is 2 so we may be closer to the surface

but i forgot that C2 zones start at 7

and i suggested to get a fix on that and make zone nummbers make a bit more sense

[turbid cliff]

well that's that

but we've had same zone numbers in rundowns that are actually out already

[errant vigil]

In a previous leak there was a zone with 1 and it did not look anywhere near the surface

[turbid cliff]

R4 leak, and the zone wasn't the same number when it came out

[robust marsh]

thats why the wing theory came out

as in there is sectors (wings) that have diff zone nummbers

[errant vigil]

Pretty sure the complex just changes randomly

As the alpha map changed when it returned in r3c1

[robust marsh]

well tbr we changed complexes as we are in a new complex

not the old one

[errant vigil]

Then why would the flavor text for the level be "..It's ..changed..."

[robust marsh]

?

you lost me on that one

[errant vigil]

each level before selecting it has a mission review or whatever

that has info on what the mission is about and how the characters react to it

[robust marsh]

yes i know that

[errant vigil]

so them saying it's change

changed

shows they've been there before

lmao

[robust marsh]

ok now you got me back XD

[smoky pier]

to be a bit careful, im gonna talk about it in here. in #dev-leaks, is that the sewers?

[brittle light]

good choice talking here.
probably? For all we know it looks like it

[turbid cliff]

we don't know what it's called

[mossy yoke]

Just because I don't want you guys taking something out of context, if you see a leak from us for a low zone number (0-5) for example, on an unfinished level, then that's just us using placeholder zone numbers while we're building the expedition, that way we can keep it simple.

[obtuse surge]

who says you aren't working for the warden and trying to prevent us from figuring out the lore

zone 2 is real, im a believer

[mossy yoke]

prove it 😉

[soft kraken]

ive been in zone 2

[soft kraken]

Also Mr.R3dd1t I watched the matrix it was pretty good

[mossy yoke]

Please stop making may name reddit or alternative variations. I've asked you to stop before, it's not my name and I'd appreciate it if you stopped doing that. Thanks.

[soft kraken]

Sorry force of habit

[atomic escarp]

[round wave]

They should really make it so people can have a party of friends/players in game and still use matchmaking.

[quiet stone]

you should suggest that then

[queen field]

It should've already been suggested (if it hasn't, idk what to think of that community lmao)

[turbid cliff]

no need for any suggestion, that's a coming feature

mm is in alpha

[nocturne flax]

Just for everyone here [MATCHMAKING ITS IN ALPHA STATE], they are working on all those features, you just gotta be patience

[mighty pond]

I mean, it does state it is an alpha MM in the game, in caps and in gold

[livid stone]

not like it's also on the roadmap that gets updated every second month

oh wait, it is

[solemn wigeon]

😳

[bold widget]

guys in E1 extreme

how do you deal with the last terminal properly

4 shadow scouts are just oof

[craggy orbit]

Smack 'em, duh

Disclaimer, I have not done E1

[pseudo pumice]

pray that you get 2-4 scouts in the first room, the remaining 2 in the the last room, and the terminal in the middle room

[bold widget]

run was perfect i swear perfect

ammo was way over the top, mother spawns were good codes were done in like 10 - 15 min and then the last termial had it and 2 scout waves were too much for the 3 teammates -.-

there has to be a way

[pseudo pumice]

the best way it to melee one scout, shoot the other, clear the remaining enemies, and repeat

[bold widget]

just scared i might trigger one sleeper or giant i may bump into

otherwise i would bunny hop to one scout

send strat

[queen field]

You actually better pray there isn't much enemies along with the shadow scouts

When we did it there were 2 scouts + 2 hybrids right in front of the door, dude was lucky that both shadow scouts were on the right at this time (so he could pass)

Also @bold widget If there are only 2 scouts in the first room, you can try to guess where one of them is, shoot it while the door opens, then shoot the 2nd scout

Then shoot the remaining monsters

If you were doing most of the waves with melee, then don't worry about the guys defending

they can handle more than 10 waves 6 without running out of resources

[bold widget]

jesus

amen

[quiet stone]

Nice cheese 🧀 Abusing door glitch, good one.

[frail zinc]

Cheesers kinda stinky

[west crow]

Please be considerate, I'm lactose intolerant

[queen nymph]

Wow imagine you are still struggle with shadow scout in E1 and you have to deal with them by using glitch. Just imagine

[queen field]

Just saying it, not like it's killing the whole point of the last room ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[obtuse surge]

except it does

why do you think they spawn in doubles

so you can't just shoot them lmao

[queen field]

Not like you can make it most of the time without a biotracker (which is what most of the guys retrieving the codes don't have) anyway

[obtuse surge]

what

i do it without

[queen nymph]

You can lol...

[queen field]

Should edit my message

[nocturne flax]

usually the one with mine deployer its the one going for the codes

[queen field]

I didn't say the opposite though

[nocturne flax]

unless you want to swap the mine guy with the bio guy, but you kind of want him on the front because shadows

[queen field]

didn't say the opposite either

I was simply giving him an advice if he REALLY wants to end it

I personally never used that trick (or cheese, since it's considered as that), if you feel it's not a good idea then it's my bad

[quiet stone]

If you just cheese it all the time you'll never improve.

[queen field]

What i'd call cheese is bypassing the whole point of extreme by having someone on the truck near the spawn for ex (i met people clearing E1 ex like that)

Or abusing the bridge glitch on the left of the spawn

[atomic escarp]

But giving advice and teaching him a cheese strat is completely different.

If you're doing cheese strats to complete a level that's your call. But consider others who don't want to do that and tell them the legit way.

[queen field]

Maybe i should write that again

[atomic escarp]

You know a whole lot to say you've never done it before.

Moving on

[queen field]

There's something called videos & knowing people who abuse these strats

just saying

Anyway yeah let's move on

[atomic escarp]

pog

[obtuse surge]

for the last zone; deafen yourself, be confident and focus

your main concern is scout alerts because that means the entire room + a wave

if you wake up something that's not a scout, there's an incredibly small chance that it screams and wakes up other things

just stay calm and deal with whatever you woke up

[quiet stone]

Small chance that it screams? Nah, they either wake up and scream or wake up and attack you

Unless its a giant which normally doesn't scream

[fierce mantle]

try pushing them using right click

before they scream

and have teammate kill them

[queen field]

Good luck to get a teammate kill them lol

[fierce mantle]

well it worked a a few times, i personally just kill them myself

if they get up - push, hit repeat till dead

[bold widget]

So

[queen field]

I mean

on E1 extreme

in the last room

[bold widget]

Just be patient?

[queen field]

Yes

[bold widget]

Aight

[queen field]

Your teammates have plenty enough resources to handle waves 6

Figure out where scouts are (if you hear them in the first room), make sure they are on the right (so you can reach the door easier)

if possible, kill one with melee, shoot the 2nd scout, kill everything that come out

[bold widget]

Thinking of saving a long range flashlight for this part

[west crow]

If your teammates are set up, you could kill what you can and trigger whatever else

[queen field]

If you find one while looking for codes, why not

If you really feel you must trigger a scout, then do it

[west crow]

Time pressure > wave pressure

They go hand in hand unfortunately

[obtuse surge]

Small chance that it screams? Nah, they either wake up and scream or wake up and attack you
Unless its a giant which normally doesn't scream
there's no difference for giants, the reason they likely won't scream, which is very much a thing, is that there's constantly tons of enemies on the other side of the reactor

only one enemy can scream every x

[west crow]

Definitely helps with the stealth section

[queen field]

Didn't know that was a thing

Any idea about the screaming cd ?

[obtuse surge]

like 30s

[west crow]

Playing around the scream timer can be inconsistent

But it helps if you're stealthing a section and a striker from the wave decides to greet you

[native drum]

@quiet stone stop reactor with hammer 🧀

[high forge]

[peak coral]

🤣

[queen field]

Isn't it reset on error alarms ?

[high forge]

wut

[west crow]

That'd be a weird quality to code

So I doubt it

[queen field]

Hmmm

I recall having sleepers from the wave screaming, and right after that having a sleeper wake up then screaming

[west crow]

Are you talking about sleepers that scream when they wake up?

[obtuse surge]

some screams are straight up broken

[queen field]

Which kinda pissed me off as scouts were triggering for no reason even though i was far from the door

both @west crow

[obtuse surge]

they won't alert a room and won't count towards any kind of timer

[queen field]

Epic

Is it known by the devs ?

[obtuse surge]

dont know

[errant vigil]

Sleeper run up to me than scream at me and me shot it's head

It's like a battle scream

[obtuse surge]

its easily done by killing/stunning them with good timing

[errant vigil]

that does nothing

[obtuse surge]

but it also happens seemingly for no reason at all

[queen field]

noice

[west crow]

Nothing is ever a garuntee with how sleepers decide to act

[queen field]

Except you can bonk them whole-heartedly after waking up

[obtuse surge]

anyway, like i said, small chance for a scream from a sleeper you wake while there's already active enemies around

doesn't mean it can't happen

it can happen, the longer you take to kill the sleeper the greater the chance for a scream

[errant vigil]

shove locking them is hilarious

[west crow]

You have a big enough buffer to act accordingly

[native drum]

@obtuse surge bug burst canon cheese or not cheese ?

[high forge]

@native drum

[obtuse surge]

you're dealing with long ass charge up each time

[high forge]

it's mostly done to not waste ammo i suppose isn't it ?

[obtuse surge]

it also just doesn't make sense that a weapon would be strictly burst only

[peak coral]

"burst canon" 🤔

[errant vigil]

I carbine cancel

[peak coral]

x)

[high forge]

[nocturne flax]

Everybody here cheese's then

[obtuse surge]

i mean

there's no technical reason

why it has to be a burst

[nocturne flax]

you get so much value out of the gun with bust cancel

[obtuse surge]

there's no reason why the weapon wouldn't be able to exist without a burst

[nocturne flax]

if it wasnt so broken stat wise

[obtuse surge]

^^

[nocturne flax]

Should be fix regardless

[obtuse surge]

and that would be the issue

[queen field]

Same as there is no reason to separate carbine & smg

just add an option to switch fire mode and done

[nocturne flax]

nah it would look ugly

[high forge]

the name of the gun is saying it all anyway it's supposed to burst and that's it, if people don't want to use burst mode on it then don't use it

[nocturne flax]

i dont see the current smg model doing burst firing

burst weapons are suppose to reward you aim

[errant vigil]

Hammer burst 👀

[nocturne flax]

auto's you ammo control

[obtuse surge]

im aware of the name of the gun

[queen field]

Automatic hammer 😳

[obtuse surge]

that's not the point i was making

it's weird that a weapon wouldn't be able to exist in a non burst mode

[west crow]

Semi auto burst cannon 🤓

[errant vigil]

actually full auto burst sentry

[nocturne flax]

I mean to be honest everything we are atalking here can be blown up by simply saying B A L A N C E

[peak coral]

It's look like we are all cheeser for someone so CHEH

[obtuse surge]

what even is balance

[queen field]

or F I X

[native drum]

@obtuse surge on the other hand it is a problem to kill the scouts during the opening of the door,
but use the canon burst bug is legit

[queen field]

Making each weapon have its own good & bad points

And not being overwhelmed by other weapons

[obtuse surge]

mg gets nerfed from 3 shot to 5shot
combat shotgun spread goes insane + head bug
but at the same time we get a fucking sniper sentry

[nocturne flax]

EEHH your basically denying the enemy that suppose to stop you for free without alerting a room

[errant vigil]

Everyone has their own definition of cheese so it really doesn't matter to me

Do what you want don't let people tell you otherwise

[nocturne flax]

thats more of a cheese than having some ammo effiency

[obtuse surge]

i mean

[mossy yoke]

[high forge]

@errant vigil A man of culture right here ladies and gentlemen

[nocturne flax]

NO

[high forge]

[obtuse surge]

if you can explain how gunshots in real life can't travel through half opened doors

then ok farfa

[native drum]

when you make all the waves pulling you have to go fast

[west crow]

You can shoot through doors

[nocturne flax]

And hack tool makes the scan faster

[queen field]

Or they can give us silencers

just saying

😳

[obtuse surge]

burst canceling isn't exactly the same as using a bug to get silenced shots in

[native drum]

@obtuse surge
i'm talking about gtfo not real life,

[fair hill]

As security doors open yes

[obtuse surge]

the point i made

[west crow]

Partially broken doors can be shot through

[obtuse surge]

was that a burst weapon

would realisticly

[queen field]

If GTFO was realistic, each door would trigger sleepers

[obtuse surge]

not be burst only

as in

[queen field]

considering how freaking loud they are

[obtuse surge]

real

yes

[errant vigil]

The clap of Duada's ass checks would wake them up too

[mossy yoke]

Maybe with weapon customization you can make your own non-burst cannon 😉

[queen field]

Don't tease us like that m'pls 😦

[native drum]

do not look for phony excuses, killing a scout while opening a door is a bug and the burst cannon too @obtuse surge

[obtuse surge]

then why are you asking

[light totem]

so MG

[obtuse surge]

you don't want to discuss this

then don't

???

[queen field]

Sniper cannon 😳

[light totem]

autocannon auto sniper

[nocturne flax]

I just want a fucking sight on my revolver

[west crow]

Auto sniper burst hel rifle

[nocturne flax]

its that too much to ask

[light totem]

sniper scope mp when

[high forge]

drugs

[native drum]

auto sniper sentry 🙂

[obtuse surge]

burst canceling isn't really the issue

you can quite literally incredibly easily

get multikills with it

[queen field]

Scouts but each tentacle wears a revolver

Now i'm in

[native drum]

so why are you using the bug?

[errant vigil]

New sight for hammer : )

[atomic escarp]

Hmm

[obtuse surge]

well

believe it or not but literally just because other people did it

[high forge]

@atomic escarp hey there pretty boy

[obtuse surge]

and it's like

[atomic escarp]

: ^ )

[obtuse surge]

kind of the meta

because it's literally the weapon with the best stats

[native drum]

OK so if other people do 🙂

it's legit

[nocturne flax]

Bugs meta confirmed

We all meta BOIIISSS

[mossy yoke]

would it surprise you that a lot less people use the burst cannon than you think? it's actually not the meta

[obtuse surge]

did you understand the part where i said that the burst cannon is godly without burst canceling

which is like

[atomic escarp]

Stealth b-hopping isn't intended, yet people still do it

[obtuse surge]

not a bug

[queen field]

Do you have stats about that Doc ? seriously asking

[high forge]

so killing ennemies when the door opens is also meta then ?

[obtuse surge]

can you shoot silenced shots at any point without using a bug

[high forge]

because a lot of people do it

[queen field]

Idk how far devs can look into players' stats

[west crow]

Why do you think shotguns keep getting nerfed

[mossy yoke]

Well yes I have stats

[queen field]

o

[nocturne flax]

How many times ive died doc tell me

[queen field]

Wait till he gonna tell how many times you failed a scout

😳

[high forge]

pls DOc enlighten us

[mossy yoke]

If you look at the 1 year anniversary video that shows many stats

[queen field]

Based on weapon uses ?

[light totem]

if only MG was better like in R2

i might actually use it

[west crow]

How frequently a weapon is used does not indicate if it's meta or not

[native drum]

if no one uses the door bug we have no right 🙂 and it's a bug @obtuse surge

[mossy yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gnrQE7itLk

[queen field]

The only thing that's meta is gavel

no need to @ me

[errant vigil]

any gun with pierce would be disgustingly good

[obtuse surge]

i mean

[native drum]

but if a lot of people use it we have the right

[light totem]

piercing sniper when

hel rifle was doodoo

[obtuse surge]

burst canceling isn't free kills

you're literally still aiming

you're literally still using ammo

[queen field]

I mean the video doesn't explicitly say how many people are using that glitch

[obtuse surge]

you're literally still dealing with a huge charge up

[nocturne flax]

Atleast it involves some timing skill ngl

[west crow]

70 individual sleeper kills baby

[atomic escarp]

Which I don't have

[queen field]

The burst killing is more like a way to optimize the shots from the burst cannon

[nocturne flax]

shooting a scout while a door its opening really its cheesy

[obtuse surge]

door cheese is literally silenced shots allowing you to get kills without any risk

how is it similar

stop picking partial things of what i said to make this easy for you to defend