#gtfo-spoiler-chat

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frail zinc
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they just used the last cell on the disinfection room

queen storm
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never went there

frail zinc
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neither

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lol

robust marsh
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its petty good

queen storm
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I didn't even know it existed

robust marsh
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a lot of ammo and health

frail zinc
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its pretty shit to get to

robust marsh
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a lot alot

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ya

frail zinc
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lots of spitters

queen storm
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is it the one next to the bulkhead door for high?

frail zinc
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yeah

queen storm
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doesn't that just require a key?

robust marsh
frail zinc
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which one then

robust marsh
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you can go in another zone

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and than you find a door

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with a gen needed

frail zinc
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never went there

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kek

crisp pivot
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the game punish us from being good 🙂 great

frail zinc
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that means they just missed the right gen in the room before

robust marsh
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it just makes you 80% health and 100 ammo at best and at least 60% health

novel wasp
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The game punishes you for not doing you job

robust marsh
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

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that was the funnest thing i heard today thanks

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ahhhh that made my day

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wait

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now i fucking remmber you cant do that

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im a dumb

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person

frail zinc
robust marsh
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gravity i hate my self

novel wasp
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Anyone ever play morrowind and kill an npc that was story vital and didn't know it so they had to reload an earlier save. I miss games like that.

robust marsh
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but that means that thats even more wrong because you put it in a gen that the games shows you to not put it in?

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we are all dumb

frail zinc
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there are 4 cells in the map

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3 go into gens and 1 goes into extreme

robust marsh
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ya

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but they put one inside of the wrong gens

novel wasp
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Gotta use those critical resources wisely

robust marsh
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@queen storm i am dumb please forgave me

frail zinc
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all the fake gens are locked out

obtuse surge
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dupe the cell BigBrainTime

robust marsh
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on one run

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with enough dysnc

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you can

frail zinc
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You cant put the cells into fake gens

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unless it glitched

robust marsh
frail zinc
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then they're complaining about bugs in a EA game

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kekw

granite scarab
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theres one gen on b1 you can put a cell in to regardless of if it's the right one or not

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it's fun to put it in and say where's the cell ;^)

frail zinc
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lul

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never seen it or done it

novel wasp
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I bet you are that guy that cfoams terminals and asks where they are.

robust marsh
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thats was me when i had 30 hours in the game...

granite scarab
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cfoam bad, i just use bio 'one enemy ahead'

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there isn't one ;^)

novel wasp
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Disregard bio, use ear mk 2

robust marsh
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now you will die because of your lie

frail zinc
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you're the nightmare of every pub player

granite scarab
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then perish

frail zinc
granite scarab
novel wasp
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I was dead on drop, just didn't know it yet.

frail zinc
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i personally love when a game punishes me for one mistake

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it makes sure you're always alert

robust marsh
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unless its cheap

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in that case ageny will help you

novel wasp
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It sucks when rng fucks you, but sometimes it doesn't. The surprise and challenge is the fun.

robust marsh
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keylime heres a tip if the game starts with a very bad start like 2 scouts alerted the run is scuffed that means you have 95% of wining

novel wasp
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Had one run where a dozen sleepers spawned in the middle of a choke point. No way to sneak kill, no way to bypass. Go hot or go home.

errant vigil
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Or get this

robust marsh
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like my B3 PE Scuffed run mother awaken every scout alerted 0% ammo at the end 20% hp always

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but we won

errant vigil
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you can just kite the enemies

granite scarab
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the most scuffed runs are the best

errant vigil
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If you make a mistake kiting can fix it

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easy

robust marsh
novel wasp
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I had runs like that in b1 6 giants in the first room all close together. It was a curse run at the start.

errant vigil
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I mean that's what the game goes down to most of the time

novel wasp
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But it was fun, don't get me wrong.

errant vigil
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not your skill at stealthing and coordinating

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Just if you can kite your mistakes away

frail zinc
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Thank god the enemies spawning inside each others assholes is a bug and its gonna be fixed

robust marsh
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ya

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ngl i had too many scuffed runs

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that were super fun

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waiting for E1 scuff run

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if i can do it ):

frail zinc
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you're not doing E1 if you fuck up anything

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too tight of a margin

errant vigil
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eh

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unless you kite extreme

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then it doesn't matter

novel wasp
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I am still a noob getting filtered and learning via hard donks. Still having fun.

frail zinc
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everyone learns at their pace

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what matters is you have fun

robust marsh
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ztriw right now its on that stage that thinks kiteing can fix everything

errant vigil
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it can

robust marsh
errant vigil
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lmao

robust marsh
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nope

novel wasp
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I don't expect I will hit d level this rundown, but I am still gonna have fun and learn to git gud.

robust marsh
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nope it can not

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trust me on that one

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i been there

errant vigil
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I mean me too

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I only fail most of the time if I don't want to kite

robust marsh
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for the most part yes kiteing is going to make you not die for the most part

granite scarab
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if you can kite back to spawn without dying then the run is saved

novel wasp
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I am not good enough with my gavel to kite and not die slower

robust marsh
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ya

robust marsh
granite scarab
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did it a lot in c1 and c2 for term codes and extreme scans to res team and finish

novel wasp
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Kite means run away and string them out

errant vigil
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I just want maps with fog and chargers on alarm wave so you have a way harder time to kite

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easy fix

robust marsh
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C2 its just made for kiteing

noble chasm
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its like cod zombies kiting

robust marsh
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there is a lot of things in the game that doesn't let you really kite around

noble chasm
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you group em all up in a train behind

robust marsh
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like the chargers babies mother tank titan striker and a lot more things

robust marsh
noble chasm
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thats what doors are for

robust marsh
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my scuff run from C2 we lost 3 to 2 ppl everytime on surge alarms

novel wasp
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Ooh that is where I am going wrong. I'm not suppose to get tongue boxed.

errant vigil
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you can kite babies

robust marsh
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but we kited and won

robust marsh
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if you dont get it

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you dead

errant vigil
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no you don't

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just run in a circle

robust marsh
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go find a mother and find out

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!

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im up for it

granite scarab
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the biggest enemy to sleepers is a big circle

errant vigil
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sadly

novel wasp
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Circles are a drafters biggest enemy too.

robust marsh
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hopefully kiteing doesn't get a big nerf in game in R5 its just a part of our blood now XD

noble chasm
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kiting probably wont ever

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b hopping i hope gets removed tho

novel wasp
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You know they are gonna do something to play with the meta

robust marsh
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its just our blood and its fun to see the devs kinda try to make it harder on us

granite scarab
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if anything it might get easier if the enemy collision changes

robust marsh
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with the level

novel wasp
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Like make you run through flooded levels that slow move speed.

robust marsh
novel wasp
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Lol

robust marsh
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ask ludvig

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his the most talkative dev he may answer

vapid moon
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well now that you called him out he wont talk

novel wasp
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I've seen lidvig chat before, he seems nice.

robust marsh
brittle light
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^

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kiting is alright but imo should be a last-option
I prefer to try to not-kite unless absolutely necessary

errant vigil
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Same

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I'd just rather it be removed than be a back-up option

brittle light
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I'm fine with it being there

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u can choose to use it or not

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you are never truly forced to use it, unless you hit your skill ceiling

vapid moon
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arent shadow giants in c3 smaller than the ones in e1?

brittle light
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you can do almost ANYTHING in this game without kiting

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if you are really really really really good

robust marsh
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kiteing is to just survive

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you not dead but you took damage

vapid moon
errant vigil
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I mean if I fuck up something big like a whole room of sleepers and a scout that should be a run ender

robust marsh
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where did you see the giants at from C3 ?

errant vigil
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but since I can kite why would I let the run end

robust marsh
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do whatever your heart wants budy 🙂

vapid moon
robust marsh
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i never seen them in that room

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hm

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how many hits?

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just like a normal gaint?

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or less or more

robust marsh
vapid moon
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its the same amount of hits

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they just look so much shorter

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they were also slower

robust marsh
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hm thats wierd because after you do extreme ||you need to go in a room with 2 of them for the bulkhead key and they are normal||

vapid moon
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normal shadows?

robust marsh
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that is not shadow gaints

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what the hell did you find down there?

vapid moon
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shadow chargers?

robust marsh
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it cant be

vapid moon
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yknow, things

atomic escarp
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you call them shadow chargers very quickly but they will never be added

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they are already dark enough

errant vigil
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Shadow bigs can have the same idle sleeping position as hybrids

robust marsh
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G dont give them ideas

errant vigil
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so they are crouched sometimes

robust marsh
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we already made shadow scouts out of memes

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dont make shadow chargers now

robust marsh
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thats the part that is confuseing

vapid moon
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where the giants in e1 are like double

robust marsh
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like if you say that i agree as the shadows go in every pose

atomic escarp
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big charger are the only big guys that learned the technique of running from naruto himself

robust marsh
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shadows attack faster as well

atomic escarp
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its like a fist of the northstar attack

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very fast then a big punch with the tongue

robust marsh
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shadow gaints are the most scary enemy for some runs but i mostly hate and i say this again I HATE charger titans

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i just dont like them

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i just hate them

atomic escarp
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they run

robust marsh
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frick them and frick everything they like

atomic escarp
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enough reason to hate

robust marsh
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no

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they are just scary

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very scary for me

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i dont know why

atomic escarp
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they fit dark rooms nicely

robust marsh
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but they are just scary

atomic escarp
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have body armor

robust marsh
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thats why i dont want to do E1

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because of the end end part

atomic escarp
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imagine having a custom sound for big chargers

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I would love that

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deep sore clicks

robust marsh
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NO i will hate it

atomic escarp
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you will never play gtfo again :)

robust marsh
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i will because AGENY but i will hate it

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big chargers were a mistake ok

atomic escarp
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they were a mild surprise for me when I first saw them

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I was like 'lets bonk them'to my team

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who were all like tf is that

robust marsh
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the thing is that i dont like them when sleeping

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its just no fuck them

errant vigil
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There are no shadow chargers anywhere in the game

robust marsh
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but if they are awake i can deal with them

errant vigil
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Shadow giants are tho

robust marsh
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as i come strap in work with burst cannon

errant vigil
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They can vary in size

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just like normal sleepers

robust marsh
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if i see a normal shadow hit me for 40 i will shoot it with burst cannon with all my bullet

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idc

nocturne flax
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Shadow charger CHEAP

errant vigil
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New anti kite regular enemy when 👀

robust marsh
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but it can be cheap

nocturne flax
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You do realize theres no such thing as a shadow charger right

robust marsh
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yes

nocturne flax
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We only have shadow titans

atomic escarp
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big shadow

robust marsh
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yes and they are chargers in spirit XD

nocturne flax
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no, its literally just a base giant that moves faster thats it

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Giant chargers are completly a different beast

devout river
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Shadow giant charger when

atomic escarp
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wide sleeper walking

nocturne flax
robust marsh
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black is not on board for this one XD

nocturne flax
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lets add new enemies instead of poop variations of it

robust marsh
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(sorry for any miss spelling)

robust marsh
nocturne flax
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shadow this, shadow that

atomic escarp
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no

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no

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NO more shadows

robust marsh
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shadow mother when

nocturne flax
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its a variation not a new enemy

robust marsh
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yes but it feels like it

nocturne flax
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neww enemy would look and do something different

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just another enemy variant

robust marsh
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black im very thankfull you didn't give up on me messing around yet

atomic escarp
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what about a sleeper that twitched its head really fast

robust marsh
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yes its a variant but it can bring new challenges to the table old dose not mean bad

nocturne flax
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shadow x shadow y, eventually we will have nothing to shadow at

queen storm
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Shadow player

atomic escarp
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shadow hackett

queen storm
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it happens

nocturne flax
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shadow hammer

queen storm
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just desync

atomic escarp
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shadow DOOR

robust marsh
nocturne flax
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desync shadow

queen storm
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and 1 player is invisible

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happened so many times

robust marsh
robust marsh
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ngl im waiting for shadow tank

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im just waiting for that

atomic escarp
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no

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NO more shadows

robust marsh
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the dooms day is comeing 🙂

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more shadows

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a level only with shadows even

atomic escarp
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It was fun the first 4 times

robust marsh
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it was ya im sorry

errant vigil
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Desync on Refinery titles be like: me fall through map and wake up enemies

robust marsh
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but it will be interesting🤔 to see that (shadow tank)

errant vigil
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it hurts when that happens

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feelsbadman

sinful herald
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Schaeffer > @spice lark
Change my mind

atomic escarp
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no

molten pumice
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what is C1 extreme

fierce crag
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Uplink on a terminal

molten pumice
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just 1?

fierce crag
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But 10-12 passwords

molten pumice
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oh

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how about C2 extreme/overload

fierce crag
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Extreme is finding 2 IDs and overload is bringing a broken datasphere to the spawn

molten pumice
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Hmm, alright

fierce crag
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If I remember correctly

molten pumice
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Im just trynna figure out what I should do as I need todo 2 more extremes and 1 more overload for E1

fierce crag
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You also need one PE mission done to unlock E1 :)

molten pumice
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I already have 2 PEs

fierce crag
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Nice :)

molten pumice
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should I try B2 PE?

nocturne flax
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Why shouldnt you try b2 pe

molten pumice
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cause I casually dont like B2

nocturne flax
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Why blush_cat

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Thats like the only fun B level

granite scarab
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c2 pe fun

nocturne flax
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Long tho blush_cat blush_cat

pliant shard
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C2 extreme isn’t that bad to do. 2-3 surge scans depending on rng

nocturne flax
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Elongated level

desert shell
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what can I do with gtfo trading cards

light totem
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Look at unoiled chargie

desert shell
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I have only big striker, shooter and striker

vapid moon
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finally beat e1 high

dreamy bramble
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now do extreme HackettThreat

vapid moon
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sir yes sir

queen nymph
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You have to do it without Bloo tho PirateSimon

vapid moon
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b- but i c- cant

queen nymph
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Time to carry someone on E1 high

vapid moon
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i mean we all did pretty good, bloo just killed all the scouts and had the strats

dreamy bramble
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nice thing about extreme is that you can't really get carried through

vapid moon
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i mean we didnt get carried that hard

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you make it sound like we sat on his back while chuggging beer as he carries us to the extract

dreamy bramble
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sorry if that's how it came across lol

vapid moon
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lol all good

dreamy bramble
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just meant that in e1 ext everyone has a designated role that will probably wipe the team if they fail at it

mortal granite
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lol, just kite

vapid moon
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funny you say that

mortal granite
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kiting is key

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it can't get any worse than that

vapid moon
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i mean, i havent heard of people beat e1 ex when kiting, always heard of fails

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and ive only seen wins with people holdinh

dreamy bramble
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alpha's memeing

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just bonk waves 1-5

vapid moon
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oh mb

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i thought he was being serious cause bloo said he heard so many people talk about 'just kite' but they never win lol

mortal granite
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Stop telling me to use R2E1 strat Mit

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i don't want to do that anymore

vapid moon
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i feel your trauma

mortal granite
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i have to kite them to the big charger room and ran back

dreamy bramble
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we lost every run we kited alpha lol

mortal granite
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we can't really salvage that

vapid moon
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why did you kite alpha? kite the enemies, not alpha

dreamy bramble
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everyone died

mortal granite
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EVERYONE DIED

dreamy bramble
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you gotta try it

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but it's so hard to pull back once you slip up

vapid moon
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my joke didnt land

mortal granite
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slip up my ass

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giant shadow

dreamy bramble
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he bullied me so hard man

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it was going so well

vapid moon
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lmao

dreamy bramble
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worst part was that i thought i heard a giant tongue but thought i was hearing things

mortal granite
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he's going crazy man

dreamy bramble
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next thing you know i got my teeth punched in by a shadow

mortal granite
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there is no giant

dreamy bramble
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i thought i had ptsd

vapid moon
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i mean, there can be a giant if you want there to be one

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you just gotta go find it

dreamy bramble
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maybe the real giants were the friends we made along the way

vapid moon
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i bonk giants and i'll bonk them

queen nymph
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Protect scouts so that you will get a good RNG in the last terminal zone

dreamy bramble
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100% of the times we spared all 4 scouts we got good terminal

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therefore it's a fact

vapid moon
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wait really lol

dreamy bramble
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well i mean we only spared the scouts once

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but 100% is 100%

brittle light
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... 1/1 says nothing lmao

dreamy bramble
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was a joke

brittle light
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I know

brittle light
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ok, so, I get kiting singular giants (in the sense of actually trying to kill them too)
that's viable solo

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what u do when u got 6 titans following you, all strikers

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they always stay at one cluster, no way to split em up

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just kite forever or..?

atomic escarp
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Shoot them if you need to

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But I can't melee duel 6 giants

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You can, maybe

brittle light
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n o

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I tried

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and failed

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0 ammo derp

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was just wondering because kiting small dudes is "simple enough"

nocturne flax
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The entire point of giants its to anti kitting when in cluster

mortal granite
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?

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giants are easily to kite

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the anti kite would be giant charger

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but that won't stop people from kiting giant charger

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so right now

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the only anti kiting would be

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mother

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birther

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1 mistake and you have to kite 40 babies

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or worse

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80 BABIES

quiet stone
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max cap babies and you can kite them SleeperBonk

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5 fps babies ftw

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but 1 mistep and you die in under a second

nocturne flax
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In clusters

granite scarab
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Kiting babies fun >:^)

soft kraken
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i love to turn babies into kites

atomic escarp
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so I discovered that classed S1 alarms still take as long as a normal S1 when you solo it

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making E1 solo impossible without a glitch/bug exploit

light totem
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Nah. You can kite them actually

atomic escarp
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hAHAHaa

light totem
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Cap strikers and circle kite the scan

atomic escarp
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do you know how long it takes to solo the final apex door?

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the S1 scan?

light totem
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Three people have at least made it to the second S1 door

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Every S1 is 140 seconds solo

atomic escarp
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how many does the last door have?

light totem
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Idk. I’ve only played E1 solo really

atomic escarp
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6

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thats 10 minutes of scanning

light totem
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Lmao

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Yeah

atomic escarp
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impossible without exploit

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period

light totem
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Nah

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You doubt solo

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It’ll take a while tho. That’s for damn sure

atomic escarp
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you are gonna need dedication

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the will

pliant shard
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14 minutes of scanning actually and you’re probably sneaking through all the stealth section in full fog

atomic escarp
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and a lot of caffeine

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to even come close to getting that far

pliant shard
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If it’s possible it’s probably gonna be a 5+ hour run lmao

light totem
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^

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Biggest issue solo I see in the level tho is boss room

atomic escarp
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mhm

light totem
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But we are working on it, I’ll see what happens when I get there

atomic escarp
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best of luck

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you'll be remembered if you can pull it off

light totem
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Lol. I bet one of my squad mates will get it before me. He’s damn good solo, even tho shit in a team

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Dmr sniper bio goes brr

atomic escarp
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👉👈 😳 Is it me?

granite scarab
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haha cap shooter go brrrrr

light totem
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I hate that so much

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And time wise could be too risky with that tank

brittle light
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btw, remind me in which room in B1 ext the birther is?

atomic escarp
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last reactor code I THINK

brittle light
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well, as far as I am concerned there are 2 sides...

craggy orbit
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227

light totem
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It’s the last zone yes

brittle light
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143 is first door, 144/145 is to the left (144 second code u need usually)
146/147 to the right

wait have I completely fucked my numbers now

craggy orbit
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The last one, after you get the keycard

atomic escarp
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^

craggy orbit
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Where the code is

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Maaaan, I remember doing that map blind

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It was right on the other side of the door, just out of the window’s view

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I open the door like

atomic escarp
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menacing clicking sounds

craggy orbit
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Fortunately I had c-foam

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But god that spooked me lmao

atomic escarp
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we'll get spooked again next rundown

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i hope

craggy orbit
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I sure hope lmao

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I want this game to scare me again

light totem
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Gib fast shadow giants back

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New ones suck

brittle light
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sloaw.

granite scarab
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shadow giants running at you at mach 6 speeds like crabpls

atomic escarp
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WIDE charger running

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scariest thing I ever witnessed

light totem
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So you didn’t experience r2 shadow giants

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Just as mean and fast, but shadow >:D

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Also used their tongue a lot more

craggy orbit
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Oh do they not have as much swagger this time?

light totem
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Slow and passiver

craggy orbit
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I’ve hardly been into E1 at all

light totem
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They act like a normal giant now. They used to be like what giant chargies kinda are

granite scarab
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them boys were faster than chargies too i swear

craggy orbit
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That’s goddamn terrifying though LOL

light totem
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Giant chargies do be kinda slow

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Old shadow franks were prob faster yeah

craggy orbit
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Okay but have you heard them walk

granite scarab
#

they naruto run in like slow motion

light totem
#

No. All I hear is oooOOOOHHH

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from team chain stagger

craggy orbit
#

No yeah big chargers just don’t make noise, I hate it

delicate chasm
#

We want fast shadow giants backWoodsPraise

light totem
#

@delicate chasm #wewantoldshadowgiantsback

delicate chasm
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#wewantoldshadowgiantsback

fiery stirrup
#

Did someone say swagger?

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😎

vapid moon
#

no, nobody did

brittle light
#

so, if you kite too many enemies at once some of them freeze and just don't do shit unless you're nearby, at which point they try to attack???

turbid cliff
#

no 🤔

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if your pc is too potato to allow all those enemies to act properly that might happen

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or just some AI EA things

sinful herald
#

Has anyone been able to successfully kite babies? They seem alot more volatile then normal strikers

atomic escarp
#

hmm

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they are faster

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attack faster

sinful herald
#

Indeed, am I'm currently trying to teach myself to be able to kite

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**and

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(the babies)

atomic escarp
#

kiting is probably low on the tactic list when you can abort them

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aka spawnkilling

sinful herald
#

True, but stuff happens, also I've been having alot of issues soloing a mother

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Im only able to do it around a third of the time

atomic escarp
#

i just thought of a really nice cheese

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use HEL revolver

mortal granite
#

you only need to jump when kiting babies

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they can't reach you if you jump

west crow
#

If you're practicing kiting, I'd practice/learn circle kiting as a client. Circle kiting serves to be more practical since it almost keeps all enemy aggro on whoever is doing it, which reduces if not eliminates any enemy pressure for your teammates. I've heard circle kiting babies is easier just because of their weird attack range. Though it doesn't really improve your ability as a player, it does make hard situations a bit more manageable.

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On the client thing, I've been told that kiting is easier/harder due to client latency. I've personally been hit less as host than as client, so it has some effect.

mortal granite
#

i don't recommend doing circle kite but it's not forbidden or anything

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just not recommend it

dreamy bramble
#

what a character arc

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goes from circle kiting in the fog in d2 for 20 mins to this

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;)

hollow socket
#

See what kitting does to a human mind ? Not recommended

mortal granite
#

Character Development PirateSimon

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started testing circle kite in R3B2

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going from Oh Yeah

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to oh Nah

frail zinc
#

If you wanna beat stuff easier. Circle kite. If you actually wanna improve and learn. Do it the real way

brittle light
#

wonder, any videos of someone no-kill completing easy missions on high (A and such)?
Or did no one take their time to do that stupidity?

turbid cliff
#

haven't heard of any pacifist runs

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i know someone has done hammer only solo levels

hoary garden
#

i remember scaler tried to do pacifist runs

mortal granite
#

D2 pacifist run

brittle light
#

tried A1 pacifist run and the enemies just stack up since I tend to kite large circles back to spawn
the scan decided to be funky
4 enemies - 3 strikers and one shooter - were standing still in running position near the scan and when I got near licked me with 100% hitrate, regardless of sidestep, jump or anything

I am also fairly certain the alarm scan looked like it's 5 circles instead of 4, but that might have been the angle from which I was looking at them

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fun stuff

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how does door breaking work efficiently - 2 hammer strikes or one?

atomic escarp
#

big door has more health than a small door

brittle light
#

yes

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minimum for small door then

#

I tend to take 2 hits full charge

atomic escarp
#

It'll take 2 strikes if you hit the lines

hoary garden
#

you can oneshot the small doors

brittle light
#

you can?

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how?

hoary garden
#

you gotta hit between the seams

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in the door

atomic escarp
#

^

brittle light
#

between the seams..?

hoary garden
#

yknow the lines where the panels of metal join up

brittle light
#

yes

hoary garden
#

just hit exactly on that line

brittle light
#

when I try to hit those with a full charge hit it doesn't work

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2 hits

hoary garden
#

and you can oneshot small doors with a fully charged hit

brittle light
#

is it a particular seam I should aim for

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or do all of them work

hoary garden
#

i usually aim for the one thats right near eye level

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not sure if all of them work

brittle light
#

might as well go into A1 and try it a bit

#

thanks for the info

frail zinc
#

yeah i only seen scaler try a pacifist run

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man is a masochist

hoary garden
#

do you just have to kite the enemies over and over

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-_-

frail zinc
#

no other way to deal with security spawned enemies

brittle light
#

oh shit it worked

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door be gon

#

also yes kiting over and over

#

fun time

#

so how does circle kiting work

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do you literally just run/jump in a circle

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in like, one room, and not even around something like a wall, just in the open?

hoary garden
#

i thought it referred to just running in a massive circle around the whole map

frail zinc
#

circle kiting is just running around in a big enough circle in the same room as to dodge the attacks

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but to keep all the aggro on yourself

atomic escarp
#

running around in a big circle in the same room

frail zinc
#

its pretty boring

#

well it doesnt have to be that big

atomic escarp
#

that reminds me of a very specific extreme objective room

frail zinc
hollow socket
frail zinc
#

and which one would that be

atomic escarp
#

totally not E1's reactor

frail zinc
#

ah yes

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totally

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kekw

atomic escarp
#

when I saw it for the first time

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I told my team

hollow socket
#

Not my video, but I timestamped it at the beginning of the ciccle running @brittle light

atomic escarp
#

ight who's gonna kite

frail zinc
#

man i fucking hate s1 alarms

hoary garden
#

say sike right now

#

thats so boring lmao

#

just 13 minutes of running back and forth

west crow
#

my god that fov

hollow socket
#

it's 20min of circle kitting for 1 S1 alarm

atomic escarp
#

hAHahwahah

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you are forgetting the class 6 S1 alarm

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which is 10 minutes of sCanNing

frail zinc
#

they take like 10min without it going down

atomic escarp
#

solo

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thats right

hollow socket
#

lmao

atomic escarp
#

if you solo a classed s1 alarm it takes just as long as a single s1

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if you do a classed s1 with a team it's not htat long

frail zinc
#

team is only like 1min 30

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iirc

atomic escarp
#

no like

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if you have multiple s1 scans it's much less longer

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if its a single one its long

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1% solo is like 2,3 seconds, wild guess

frail zinc
#

interesting

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i haven't played much lately so i haven't done any of the ones with classed S1

atomic escarp
#

they are only in B3, idk about C3 and def in E1

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they are part of extended

frail zinc
#

Man i dont wanna touch c3 Pe

#

nothing but pain and suffering

atomic escarp
#

oh its fog

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oh its spitters

#

oh its sleepers in the fog with spitters

frail zinc
#

oh its pulling every fucking room simulator

atomic escarp
#

I even got really triggered

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cuz one of the spitters never retracted

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I shined a long range light on it

frail zinc
atomic escarp
#

proceeded to walk into it, followed by a scare

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my chocolate bar at hand at that time did not take that nicely

frail zinc
#

Poor chocolate

light totem
#

Yeah 140 seconds. So 2:20

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No matter what S1 scans type circle

strong oyster
#

"This game is like DOOM in slow motion." -me to a relative trying to describe GTFO

atomic escarp
#

This game is melee doom

hearty vessel
#

Ehhh

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You cant camp in DOOM

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Plus no platforming

#

Theyre both FPS but thats were the gameplay similarities end tbh

atomic escarp
#

Not even the enemies are the same

inner fox
#

doom :v its not like doom , here you need ammo , sentry , teammates , its tactical

atomic escarp
#

Doom multiplayer

atomic escarp
#

doom already has multiplayer

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It's like Left 4 Dead but with more stealth (sometimes)

rustic zinc
#

Yo waht happens on A2 overload like what do you have to do?

vapid moon
#

almost beat e1 extreme, we had filled our health, ammo, and tools, and still had a total of 40 packs, half of that was ammo. 2 people died because our solo was so slow, i spent 10 minutes kiting in the reactor room.

robust marsh
#

big oof but.....there is no but its just oof

forest horizon
#

Still better than most groups

queen nymph
#

I mean, if he is new to the solo part, then you can't blame him for being slow :d

#

Also the RNG affects the pacing too

dreamy bramble
#

honestly the only code where time taken is a big deal is the last one

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hammering the waves isn’t a big deal

sharp merlin
#

Cheers thats really helpful

unborn zephyr
vapid moon
#

You can hammer litteraly anything, but the only 2 things i dont want to try to are giant chargers (awake) and mothers. tanks are easy melee

light totem
#

giant chargers
This is inherently wrong

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its pretty "easy"

#

bout the same as old shadow giants

pulsar shuttle
#

@vapid moon Hammering the mothers is generally easy

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just as long as your the host and kiting the babies

mortal granite
#

but can't we just

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you know

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hammer the mother without kiting the babies?

queen nymph
#

Can’t. But you can c-foam the mother and hammer it down

pulsar shuttle
#

@mortal granite dam didnt think of that, alright new plan, hammer all the babies then hammer the mother

atomic escarp
#

then hammer the new babies then hammer the mother

pulsar shuttle
#

so right you know

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this mans got it allllll~ figured out

novel wasp
#

What if we had a shotgun, no, two shotguns.

atomic escarp
#

nah

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4 machine guns

pulsar shuttle
#

4 burst machines

bold widget
#

why is the D2 PE kiting strat so much in

#

its just lame af if you ask me yo

rugged jay
#

because carrying the package in max fog blows

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with invisibros

quaint yarrow
#

Anyone have any tips for c3 PE?

#

Fog and tumors make me terminal

atomic escarp
subtle vault
#

do extreme

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makes the fog clean

obtuse surge
#

isn't the main issue that people use ammo on the charger waves and they end up running out because they go too slow?

mighty pond
#

Yes.

sinful herald
#

C3 pe is a headache

subtle vault
#

yep

sinful herald
#

C3 pe harder than D2 pe change my mind

obtuse surge
#

the main issues i noticed in pug attempts:

  • people being very slow in getting to the high bulkhead alarm (sometimes incredibly helpful doors literally break from a charger wave before we've even started the alarm)
  • splitting up to get the key, trying to defend outside (there's no point in this because they will just spawn in there)
  • trying to stealth big chargers (the time you gain by shooting them pretty much saves you ammo because less waves to deal with)
  • that one teammate with his sniper that's noticeably useless or wasting our ammo
neat nova
#

what

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wait

#

what

#

idk what a big charger is i think so its probably oaky

mortal granite
#

if you don't have any experience with charger

#

then you will have a "huge" problem with big charger

neat nova
#

what floor is it on

mortal granite
#

C3

atomic escarp
#

C3

neat nova
#

yeah i have got past B so thats why

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2*

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i think

velvet flower
#

You had a chance to see on C2.

neat nova
#

the second level

atomic escarp
#

You'll get swiped if you're not careful fighting it

neat nova
#

so you are saying play C2

mortal granite
#

there is none in C2?

#

hmm

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i only played C2 for 3 times

atomic escarp
#

I still need to get better at meleeing giants solo in general

#

C2 surge scans can spawn some

#

I don't know now since the extension

velvet flower
#

C3 there's always several, C2 there's a small chance to spawn only.

#

C2's surge alarm still spawns big chargers after extension, not like D2.

dreamy bramble
#

i've personally never seen big chargers on c2 surges post-extension, only hybrids

quaint yarrow
#

@obtuse surge thanks for the tips, my group is definitely guilty of trying to defend outside and trying to stealth big cahrgers

mighty pond
#

Stealthing the big chargers is probably the best way to eat up your time and your defenders ammo supplies. Like Wes said it's really best to have someone go in, shoot scout, and drag everything out so you can kill it. Alternatively you can all rush in and kill scout and hold off the alerted enemies in the room itself.

solemn wigeon
#

Being close to big chargers is scary though

modest aspen
#

Yea that triple 40% punch dou

solemn wigeon
#

Especially if you are on low health to begin with

west crow
#

Both the C3 high bulkhead tile and burst cannon well prepare you to make and keep space

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The BC also helps make big chargers less of an ammo dump

#

I wouldn't say C3 pe is necessarily harder than d2 pe, it's that chargers had little to no presence before hand in r4 and are thrown at the player in a technical large scale, so people are less equipped to deal with them just due to lack of experience

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It's also a poorly designed level to begin with, so it doesn't have much going for it

mighty pond
#

R1C1/R3C1 had a fair amount of charger enemies in them. Also to be frank the level design is great imo, layers actually impact the level itself.

west crow
#

I did note "in r4".

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Just because the layers impact the level, doesn't mean it's good level design, especially in the case of C3 pe where the level is made drastically easier by doing the extreme

#

D2 PE does that better

mortal granite
#

i don't know if it made it better

#

you have to waste roughly 30 minutes to get everything clear

#

if you go straight for high

#

you can speedrun it in 15 minutes

#

or less

#

and carrying the turbine back to spawn don't even do anything

west crow
#

D2's extreme layer changes how D2's high is played

mortal granite
#

in D2 PE, devs were thinking people would just go in and grab the turbine

#

but they skip it

robust marsh
#

ya...

#

ppl like pain and speed

mortal granite
#

if you grab the turbine

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everything just turn out like normal D2

robust marsh
#

you sure?

#

idk ):

#

i never completed D2 PE and i am not going to do it

#

not enjoyable for me but i would love to know how you guys do it

mortal granite
#

speedrun

atomic escarp
#

After extreme its just the same as D2 high, but speedran

mortal granite
#

that's D2 extreme

#

you could just NOT speedrun

#

and pick the turbine

#

but picking the turbine will definitely make it longer

west crow
#

you're arguable left off worse doing that

mortal granite
#

not everyone can do D2 speedrunning tho

#

that's why there's a run back then finish D2 PE in 3 hours

#

on 1 side, you have to speedrun hence the players need to be experience

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on the other side, you can slowly finish the level with a turbine

robust marsh
#

hmmm

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but most ppl that host want to do it the hard way

mortal granite
#

you mean the fast way

robust marsh
#

well ya

mortal granite
#

the thing with the turbine one

robust marsh
#

i didn't even know there was one turbine before

#

3 weeks ago i went in that room

mortal granite
#

i don't think there is a video of people doing D2 with turbine

robust marsh
#

nope

mortal granite
#

that's why nobody would do that since there is no "tutorial"

robust marsh
#

make one

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:/

mortal granite
#

and that leave people think

#

"there is only one way to do it"

robust marsh
#

ya

#

its funny my first time on D2 PE i played with a group of speed runners and they killed my taste on the level

mighty pond
robust marsh
#

agree

west crow
#

The extreme layer makes the level easier

#

That's bad level design

mellow creek
#

inb4 invisible mummies and daddies

robust marsh
#

did you look at extreme it self?

errant vigil
#

Are you bad at dealing with fog

robust marsh
#

no

desert shell
#

shados

pliant shard
#

Wes mentioned this but how does it make the level easier? You trade a fog scan in Main for a fog scan in extreme?

#

You trade a class 3 fog scan for a class 4 fog scan

#

You also do a extra class 5 alarm

#

If thats easier then damn

robust marsh
#

slso

#

also*

desert shell
#

Idk i only know that at the end of C3 extreme got angry triangles trying to kill you

robust marsh
#

shadows

mighty pond
#

Fr how does the extreme make the level easier kek

robust marsh
#

yes more supplys and stuff but extreme it self

#

its petty hard

#

a class 5 with shadows

#

ended the run a lot

mighty pond
#

You go through the entire extreme shit to deal with what, non-infectious fog? Cool, the fog isn't that big of a deal in the first place with the sheer amount of repellers you get

desert shell
#

no fog, but you lost health in the process of taking it away

#

that's c3 extreme

west crow
#

okay

#

if that's what you feel

desert shell
#

trade helth for fog

mighty pond
#

I mean, it's obviously not just me

west crow
#

okay

errant vigil
#

Also the generator cluster has no doors to C-foam which makes it way harder than having a scan with doors

desert shell
#

shadows in the dark in extreme

robust marsh
#

beep im really interested to see why you think its a bad level design so can you explain?

pliant shard
#

I mean we told you our side of things. We are showing you that for extreme you do a Class 4 from a class 3. A extra class 5 and a cluster gen alarm for no fog? There are so many stacks of fog repellers in the key rooms that can protect you from the fog. Where does the "Bad level design" come from?

desert shell
#

hard to kill them without by-O tracker

nocturne flax
#

You guys are asking the shittiest question, why dont we ask, how the fuck did that tank got into that super small room ?

desert shell
#

where

robust marsh
#

it didn't

#

it got evolved in there

robust marsh
#

or one team managed to trap it

nocturne flax
#

hes dummy thicc, he cannot fit trough there

desert shell
#

he got thin

#

he go in room

nocturne flax
#

he ate

desert shell
#

he eat and he fat

nocturne flax
#

he got dummy thicc

desert shell
#

he cant get out

robust marsh
nocturne flax
#

yes

#

he squish trough the doorframe

desert shell
#

squish

#

how tall is the tank?

pliant shard
#

at least 5 foot 6

bold widget
#

Real talk I think E1 high is easier then D2 pe

dreamy bramble
#

how so?

bold widget
#

Cause the e stands for easy

mortal granite
#

SEE

robust marsh
#

never have i been so offended with something that i 100% agree with

desert shell
#

it hurts me

mortal granite
bold widget
#

Facts right here

hoary garden
#

anyone know what class the surge alarm to zone 97 is in d2?

digital dawn
#

class 3 I think

atomic escarp
#

^

#

3 team scans

solemn wigeon
#

Surges are always class 3 teams

dreamy bramble
#

so far

solemn wigeon
#

Anymore and you might as well make it an S1

obtuse surge
#

we have a surge that's 1

#

👀

solemn wigeon
#

But that is also an S1 so is it really the same category 👀

obtuse surge
#

yes

#

because the point is that surge references the heavy wave spawns

#

and nothing else

solemn wigeon
#

I guess

#

But for your group its more like an S1 Tea Party

obtuse surge
solemn wigeon
#

No don't let the timer hit 0 🙈

bold widget
#

I want angle dust to be a playable character

modest aspen
#

bruh

delicate chasm
pulsar shuttle
#

who said that c3 extreme is worse Scout

#

i will personally hunt you down

craggy orbit
#

c3 ex is hard??

delicate chasm
#

R4 too easy

pulsar shuttle
mighty pond
nocturne flax
#

c3 bad

#

😎

mighty pond
#

You bad

#

🙂

nocturne flax
#

yes

#

c3 bad

mighty pond
#

You're C3?

nocturne flax
#

glad we agree

mighty pond
#

Hmm

nocturne flax
pliant shard
#

Dragon is the baddest bitch I know

grand elk
#

hahahaha

modest aspen
#

C3 Extreme makes High easier, so I'll bear with the ||Shadow Titans & Giant Chargers||

mortal granite
#

and a class 5 alarm

#

it'll make it easier

#

but if you go straight for high

#

you could have save 30 minutes

modest aspen
#

That is true

mortal granite
#

if you hate that level, you may as well speedrun high

#

since it's faster that way

unborn sorrel
#

Is the mother in B1 Extreme always active when you step into the room?

hoary garden
#

nope

#

should be sleeping

unborn sorrel
#

Well I guess we triggered it then feelsbad

hoary garden
#

rip

vapid moon
nocturne flax
#

I was pulling his leg, c3 its not bad, i personally just dont like the pacing o

#

Goes from 0 to 100 in one scan out kf nowhere

#

But the level its fine

mortal granite
#

just speedrun it dumbo

queen nymph
#

Yeah the pacing on C3 is weird. It’s like asking you to stealth 80% of the map and then it switches to hammering and kiting in 10 seconds which most of the people can’t switch between two skill sets that fast

mortal granite
#

R2E1 baby

errant vigil
#

It's not even that

#

It's just chargers

#

also isn't that most of the levels with errors anyways

queen nymph
#

I called it a cursed level.

mortal granite
#

wait for my video

#

it's gonna be done in 1 or 2 day

queen nymph
#

Wait you mean r2e1 or C3 👀👀👀👀

mortal granite
#

both is good

bold widget
#

Tim Allen would be op as shit as a playable character

vapid moon
#

i did a meme run through d2 with 1 other person so that we could practice shadow scouts and we ended up almost beating overload and extreme, 2 dmr, 1 revolver, 1 machinegun, a mine and cfoam.

#

we only died cause we wanted sleep and hammered 2 titan chargers lol

tepid jasper
#

for C3 Pe for high part whats the secruity scan on the final door for the fog turbine?

#

my group died cause i decided to shoot the scout so we dont have get constantly deleted by rhinos charging at us

forest horizon
#

@tepid jasper 5 scan alarm

#

If you have any questions I can give tips for it

tiny matrix
#

Took my group 2 hours to do PE on C3. We literally had two pee breaks.

novel wasp
#

None of y'all had pee bottles? Not very gamer.

queen nymph
#

And did you win?

bold widget
#

stupid question

#

but what you guys think of a guy taking a sniper for E1

#

like only 1

errant vigil
#

it's fine

mighty pond
#

One sniper has merit to it, you can deal damage to tank from a nice vantage point or distance away; essentially you can carry things farther ahead and still be effective in the tank fight if need be. Sniper is also helpful for removing hybrids from existence if they're becoming troublesome during a tank fight. Otherwise, they're not overly useful compared to a pump shotty, BC, or choke mod once the error is finished. The only other major location I can see benefit for the sniper is being able to dump 2 mags of ammo into the brood mother before the boss fight through the door slit while the apex door is opening.

queen nymph
#

It's fine. One of the pro E1 extreme completion run has two snipers.

vapid moon
#

ive beaten it on high with sniper

craggy orbit
#

This is good news, because a friend of mine hates running anything that isn't the sniper lmao

modest aspen
#

The Head Shotting addiction is too damn good

#

kekw

queen nymph
#

I bring sniper for meme run

vapid moon
#

all runs are meme runs

novel wasp
#

As it turns out, the real memes were the ones we made along the way.

light totem
#

“Pro” lmao

delicate chasm
#

HAA 2 snipers, 1 is bad enough and that's my main weapon for E1 as well as DMR

light totem
#

Same I run it for E1

quick dome
#

4 times dmr sniper and biotracker

craggy crane
#

So

#

I was messing around with a scout

#

and apparently a burst sentry can kill it

#

topkek

atomic escarp
#

What level does mother appear

delicate chasm
#

@light totem yeet sniper peasants

light totem
#

ill yeet you

delicate chasm
#

@atomic escarp B3 I think haven't played in a while tho

atomic escarp
#

Alright thank you

light totem
#

b1

delicate chasm
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I'll smack you with a sniper if you try to yeet me

light totem
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extreme b1 at the final room

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idk how i remember the unmemorable levels

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all of R4

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tho i cant tell you half of the rundown tbh

delicate chasm
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There you go shows how much I play all the lower levels

atomic escarp
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Thank you for the information

delicate chasm
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I think I only remember R1 oof and r2

atomic escarp
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I came in r3

delicate chasm
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Oof you missed the best rundown

nocturne flax
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Mother is in B1 extreme, B3 overload, c2 in bulkhead key, E1 everywhere lmao @atomic escarp

delicate chasm
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They are only in 2 places in e1

nocturne flax
delicate chasm
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Nah

nocturne flax
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as in a joke ||because theres 4 mothers in extreme +the queen at the end||

digital dawn
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also in B2 overload and D1 extreme

delicate chasm
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They are just normal enemies tbh just more health

nocturne flax
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Yes totally

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the one enemy that spawns more enemies

delicate chasm
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Yes they bring no challenge

nocturne flax
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the one that ends many runs

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the one that actually requires coordination to take down

delicate chasm
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A 1 mag from a Hel Revolver can wipe almost the full spawn

nocturne flax
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Asumming perfect spawns and all that yes totally

delicate chasm
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Not really they spawn in 1 spot

nocturne flax
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They spawn in groups not all at once

forest hound
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Things never go to plan for me I just shot and it usually works. Never been able to use the hel revolver optimally though

nocturne flax
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Its the most dangerous enemy in the game

delicate chasm
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Fair enough solo it might be a hard enemy but duo to 4 man no, no chance

nocturne flax
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Go trigger the 4 mothers in E1 extreme then

delicate chasm
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Easy cheese

nocturne flax
delicate chasm
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We are talking about 4 mother's here

nocturne flax
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easy man just 1 hel revo each one

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one mag for 4 mother easy

forest hound
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Legit killing of 4 mothers would take so much luck and coordination.

delicate chasm
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Yeah you can just have a burst to kill her

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Not really 4 cfoam nades or 4 cfoam easy enough tbh no skill involved

forest hound
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So freeze them all at the same time, Kill them within a short time frame,

delicate chasm
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Yes