gtfo-spoiler-chat

[polar urchin]

Ok I see

Thanks

[drowsy lava]

So they will spawn further away if someone stands in the room next to the security room though they would have to deal with the brunt of at least 1 wave

[polar urchin]

That's actually really interesting, so, like for the alarm sequence in B1, you could have someone stand outside the room to force them to spawn further away, retreat and then C-foam the door to buy a little more time to complete the scans, then?

[drowsy lava]

the initial wave will be 2 rooms away before someone can run out

[polar urchin]

Oh, right because there's the bulkhead door there

[desert shell]

so what is gear progression

[mortal granite]

i think you're going to upgrade your weapon/tool yourself

i think

[toxic dagger]

i wanna put an even bigger magazine on the auto pistol

the drum mag’s too small

[desert shell]

haha 100 round machine gun go brr

[leaden star]

finally, i can attach sniper scope and long range flashlight to my mallet

[desert shell]

maul gang

[toxic dagger]

will the blood of the past sleepers i’ve slain also to be visible

i want my hammer to be red

[desert shell]

does this mean

you can get the R1MG???

[toxic dagger]

blood for the blood gods is what i’m hearing

[desert shell]

warden shhh

dont give em ideas

[toxic dagger]

i hope there aren’t upgrades that actually impact gameplay and need to be “unlocked” or whatever

just would be grindy then i feel like

but weapon and character customization seems cool

[desert shell]

ooooo, gotta be grindey

[terse frigate]

we monster hunter now

[toxic dagger]

yeah i think sticking to more cosmetic rewards should’ve been the move imo

[desert shell]

haha arbalist V go brbrbrbrbrbr

[toxic dagger]

and continuing with the current system of weapons and tools

[terse frigate]

i don't mind the lack of progression. i'm happy with just jumping in and enjoying the game for what it is

[toxic dagger]

yeah, i’m not playing the game to get any other reward aside from the gameplay and the feeling of success post-expedition

that’s why i think adding in a progression system where you get better gear based on your expedition completions makes it more of a grind to get those items

yeah i mean that’s what i pictured when they mentioned customization and shit

it’s also interesting having the same tools/weapons for both the easiest and hardest levels and not having them scale imo like getting “more powerful gear”

[desert shell]

3 days lmao

[mossy yoke]

We're against the grindy aspect. We dont want GTFO to be a game you feel like you have to logon every day to do bounties and play the grind

[toxic dagger]

glad to hear it, that’s reassuring

[light totem]

Someone’s on his phone

Wow I saw that

[carmine gull]

how does a s-scan even know when a teamma]te is downed

curse you gameplay choices

[nocturne flax]

Cuz one of you is down

[carmine gull]

but how would it know

[lilac cloak]

Maybe it is just warden playing with you 🤔

[toxic dagger]

maybe it reads vitals

[soft kraken]

what if it does something dumb like

reads the chat

so if you type that they are revived

the game thinks they are alive

[brittle light]

unlikely

[light totem]

[drowsy remnant]

what happens when u activate all 4 generators in B2 high? exteraction with fighting or something special?

[unborn sorrel]

extraction with fighting

[drowsy remnant]

exit is where the entrance was? and is there any fog?

[unborn sorrel]

no, fog goes down and yeah exit is entrance

[errant vigil]

you have a team scan before extract

[unborn sorrel]

yeah it's the same as other generators

[errant vigil]

so don't leave gen

[drowsy remnant]

extract is at generators or if i turn on all 4 generators scan happens?

[unborn sorrel]

scan is at generators then extract is at entrance

so you can't have one person put cells in and everyone else waits at entrance

[obtuse surge]

powering all 4 generators starts an alarm which will end once you finish the team scan that'll show up at the generators

the extraction itself is peaceful from what i remember

[unborn sorrel]

I don't know if it keeps spawning but we only had 1 wave of enemies arrive

[drowsy remnant]

alarm class 2/3/4 or cluster?

[errant vigil]

1

alarm class 1

just the team scan

[drowsy remnant]

will the fog after doing scan dissapear?

[errant vigil]

No

it will be very low tho

[hexed vapor]

It will be at its lowest possible elevation, but z88, z89, and Overload will still be foggy.

[robust marsh]

what level are we talking about?

[drowsy remnant]

so basicaly standing visibility guaranteed?

[errant vigil]

yes

[drowsy remnant]

B2

[errant vigil]

you're doing main so it's the regular way to do the level

[robust marsh]

that level is so good on high but so cursed on PE

not amazing on high

but still good balance

[drowsy remnant]

so basically put in 4 cells, 1 team scan with alarm class 1, do scan and kill em, then peacefuly go to extraction and start fighting

?

[unborn sorrel]

the wave takes a while to get to you, so you can do team scan and run to extraction

was my experience anyway

I imagine it's based on spawn tho

[devout river]

Yea you can usually get the generator scan done without seeing a lot of them

[hexed vapor]

There is no fight at extraction, once you've killed the gen cluster wave that's it.

Similar to A2's HSU, but there's an extraction

[drowsy remnant]

thx for help, B2 last part went well

how is A2 on overload?

[robust marsh]

error door

[drowsy remnant]

i mean how is it in general, does it require you to do extreme aswell?

[errant vigil]

No

[robust marsh]

nope

but

but

its very hard at the start as the scout is most likely going to get alerted

so its just a big hit

[drowsy remnant]

so basically enemy spawns every 15 or 10 sec not 20?

and ammount is 4 or more?

[hexed vapor]

Every 20 seconds vs. every 50 seconds.

[unborn sorrel]

oh I thought it was exactly the same as B2 extreme except at the middle-end of the level rather than the start

[hexed vapor]

2 enemies instead of 3 each wave.

[robust marsh]

nope its 20 sec with 2

[unborn sorrel]

that explains why the scouts trigger more often for me there

[drowsy remnant]

i see, so basically once i trigger overload on A2 i can just continue doing main mission?

[unborn sorrel]

well the trick is to put the cryos at the end basically

so once you're done with overload you can just extract

(as long as you don't put both cryos in the circle it won't trigger the waves)

[drowsy remnant]

ah i see, u do main objective then trigger overload?

[unborn sorrel]

Yeah, it means you should have tons of resources going into overload too

[drowsy remnant]

sry if question sounds dumb, im new to game(my first week)

[errant vigil]

you fine

everyone's got to learn at somepoint

[unborn sorrel]

There's a lot of learning from practice, like setting up a safe spot (i.e. the start of the level) to run back to when the scouts inevitably trigger

since you'll have the room ahead triggered and a scout wave most likely coming in behind you

[hexed vapor]

The class error from A2's overload never ends, so you want to do it at the last possible point.

Note, if you're doing PE then you need to do overload before you can progress extreme.

[drowsy remnant]

ok, if i got it right, then firstly get both cryos to extraction(not in circle) then trigger overload and do it and last extraction

[unborn sorrel]

well you can put one in the circle

just not both

and yeah

[frail zinc]

a2 error alarm is more dangerous than a3

spawns more frequently.

[nocturne flax]

no scream alert too

[frail zinc]

the audio comes every 2nd spawn

[unborn sorrel]

but splitting your team up to kill the shitters that spawn while one goes ahead and then calls if they're breaking through from ahead (and triggering scouts) was how we did it, but you can also just as easily move through it all together, it's just a case of not panicking since once you trigger it everything happens pretty quickly

[drowsy remnant]

how different is any of C tiers to B tiers?

[frail zinc]

Apparently they're more likely to spawn ahead if the host goes in the rooms past error bulkhead

[unborn sorrel]

as in - open bulkhead, then a wave (couple of shitters) can spawn 2 rooms ahead, trigger the scout, which then triggers that room, then they bust through into the first room and trigger that room while the scout wave spawns behind you

So it's really easy to get swarmed

[drowsy remnant]

omg, that sounds like B2 on PE with newbies who just got into the game xD

[errant vigil]

They may not trigger the scout in b

[unborn sorrel]

Yeah if you're lucky

[errant vigil]

If scout is close to door they break then yes

[frail zinc]

the door breaking might not

[hexed vapor]

Generally, if you are aren't in the room next to awake sleepers they are very unlikely to actually scream.

[frail zinc]

but they might scream in the room

but thats unlikely

[unborn sorrel]

I've found they usually scream once they break the door down

[errant vigil]

yea I just back out if they start breaking

so they have a lower chance to scream

[unborn sorrel]

but idk if that's something we're doing to cause that

[hexed vapor]

That was how I ran E1 extreme, I would try to stay out of z314A whenever possible so that birthers wouldn't wake.

[frail zinc]

but yeah like i said above "Apparently they're more likely to spawn ahead if the host goes in the rooms past error bulkhead"

[unborn sorrel]

all I know is I hear a scout powering up from a mile away

[errant vigil]

Pretty sure being in an adjacent zone makes them more prone to scream

[frail zinc]

so keep the host on the defence team

[unborn sorrel]

but tbh I think it's better to have one scout trigger, pull back, deal with the wave than move forward and potentially have both scouts trigger at once

[errant vigil]

yea

Or bio and shoot scout with burst cannon/sniper

[frail zinc]

@toxic dagger understands it better than me

[unborn sorrel]

well yeah if you can book it into the scout room and bap it before the wave spawns go for it but if you're saying 20s and that's from opening the bulkhead that's tight

[frail zinc]

2 enemies every 20sec on a2

yes

[robust marsh]

it is tight but its better to be 20 sec

as you get used to how to deal with them

[twilit remnant]

I thought it was 4 every 20 in a2

[errant vigil]

nah

it's 2

Seems like 4 if they stack up

[nocturne flax]

2 that makes the overload zone so fucking unfair for new people

[robust marsh]

black its there first hard area

it should be unfair

[nocturne flax]

no

[robust marsh]

yes

[nocturne flax]

Your wrong

[robust marsh]

yes it may make players feel like bruh

but its the first place that you see how much game can go far on being hard

[errant vigil]

an easy fix for it would have been to do it like A3 error

have a sec door in next zone

not regular ones

[drowsy remnant]

what are the recommended team loadouts for B1 High? and what is the strat for completing it?

[errant vigil]

c-foam, mines and keep fog repellers for alarms

[unborn sorrel]

We took mines, C-foam and sniper sentry. Mines are really good for blood door and waves if you C-foam the doors

[frail zinc]

sniper sentry is useless in that level

it takes 4 seconds to fire its first shot.

[unborn sorrel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Just saying what we cleared it with

[errant vigil]

leave the sniper sentry alone

[frail zinc]

i like the sniper sentry

but only in some levels.

[robust marsh]

the best loadout is cfoam mines auto sentry and bio

[errant vigil]

eh just c-foam mines really

[unborn sorrel]

We've never had a 4th, but I can't see bio needed

like I'd rather take another sentry than bio

[frail zinc]

bio aint that important

[robust marsh]

yes but it is very usefull

[frail zinc]

its okay if you're not comfortable around in the fog

but another sentry has more impact

[robust marsh]

and if you say no i will break your kneecaps

🙂

[unborn sorrel]

wallhacks is nice

[frail zinc]

bio is only ever needed in levels with shadows.

[drowsy remnant]

so basically it depends on team if team comfy with fogs just drop the bio and take sentry

[errant vigil]

eh just see better lmao

never need bio : )

[robust marsh]

you really never need bio

in this rundown

but its very nice

[nocturne flax]

[robust marsh]

in every level

[errant vigil]

yea

[robust marsh]

because its bio tracker

like come on its the most usefull tool

[unborn sorrel]

I love how I only ever see blackdragon spamming kek

[drowsy remnant]

im actually super bad with horror games so i went with bio for start, now im not

[errant vigil]

BlackDragon224

[robust marsh]

i always grab bio if i can

its just good

and i dont trust others with it

[nocturne flax]

I just learn to love all of this

i dont even argue anymore

[robust marsh]

because everytime you do you fail

?

[nocturne flax]

unlike you i actually have some experience on a lot of things

but its just the same thing over and over and over again

[robust marsh]

black i dont argue i make argues

[nocturne flax]

thats why i stop discussions

[errant vigil]

me shoot me happy no argue

[robust marsh]

you can never stop me from picking on your brain (:

[frail zinc]

@nocturne flax also why did you take sniper on d2?

[nocturne flax]

wich d2 match

[frail zinc]

the one you just posted

duo

[unborn sorrel]

the duo?

[nocturne flax]

that was dmr

[unborn sorrel]

sniper sentry

they mean

[frail zinc]

sniper sentr

[nocturne flax]

oooohh

[robust marsh]

sniper sentry is amazing in that level lol

[errant vigil]

he took sniper entry on our meme b2 pe run

[frail zinc]

and of course you took dmr

[nocturne flax]

i tought i was going crazy i brought sniper

[frail zinc]

its your drug

also thats a nice love/hate relationship with that guy you're playing with

[nocturne flax]

Hes my friend

[toxic dagger]

@frail zinc why tag

[errant vigil]

I also love/hate largest : )

[nocturne flax]

weve duo almost the entire rundown already

[frail zinc]

@toxic dagger What was that thing you said about host and error alamrs

[nocturne flax]

its all love

not hate lmao

we just pick at eachother

[toxic dagger]

apparently wave spawns 2 rooms away from host, so if host stays farther back, it's unlikely that the waves will spawn super far ahead like in scout rooms

someone told me that recently i forgot who

[unborn sorrel]

So I can troll my team by being 2 rooms away from them and having shitters appear in front of them?

[nocturne flax]

He knows me more than anybody ive play with

[unborn sorrel]

That would explain why my friend had some appear literally in front of him when we did B2 extreme since I didn't follow him in there

I thought it checked all players

[toxic dagger]

i thought so as well @unborn sorrel but apparently it's host dependent

[unborn sorrel]

[toxic dagger]

so just have the host stick a couple rooms back and clear waves

[nocturne flax]

I noticed mines we've only use them until the class 3 and that was it

so i suggested we actually bring a sentry

so sniper sentry it was

[frail zinc]

what made you go with the sniper tho

[nocturne flax]

Oneshots everything, good damage ammo efficient

actually does some damage to the tank

[frail zinc]

kek

i guess there are some pretty long corridors in that level

for the sniper to actually get some shots off

[nocturne flax]

sniper sentry its good

people just dont know where to put it

[frail zinc]

fucking 4 seconds to fire first shot and then 2 after

[errant vigil]

sentries are best when people know how enemy pathing works

[unborn sorrel]

I was actually wondering on that, does the pathing always prioritise open doors over closed ones, even if they have to run around the room they're in to go through the open one??

I've noticed it a couple of times but haven't confirmed it

[errant vigil]

dependent on the level layout

zone 88 alarm to zone 89 on b2 is a good example and c1 alarm to get to bulkhead hub

[unborn sorrel]

Yeah C1 was the one I noticed

[toxic dagger]

@errant vigil any tips for breaking small doors with one hit?

i can get it but not consistently

[errant vigil]

if you try to hammer between the panels on a door it can hit both and do damage twice

[toxic dagger]

i get that, i just have trouble hitting that sweet spot sometimes

[errant vigil]

yea I do too

sometimes just a chance thing

I think it's like how you can double kill sleepers when they're close enough to each other

I might be wrong tho

oh

you can hit two sleepers with one hammer

is what I'm saying

[light totem]

Yes you can

More than two as well >;)

[errant vigil]

yea

positioning tho

[toxic dagger]

ohh yeah gotcha

[light totem]

Yeah. Back in R2 the most I ever got was 5? I think

Pre enemy collision time

Ugh

Miss it

[errant vigil]

It's hilarious when they all scream

[light totem]

Yes

The noise is just so good

I don’t count babies for multikills tbh

They are hilarious when multikilled

[nocturne flax]

baby go squish

[errant vigil]

yes

[light totem]

Literally

squish

[frail zinc]

squishy babies, my favourite hobby

[light totem]

That’s sounds bad

[errant vigil]

MonkaS

[light totem]

Yes

[soft kraken]

👶

[hexed vapor]

How many completions do people think E1 main and E1 Extreme are going to get?

[soft kraken]

7000

or like percentage wiser

2.5%

[hexed vapor]

On main or extreme?

Isn't that kind of high considering R2E1 had less than 600 clears ever?

R3D1 even had 9k clears ever, I really doubt E1 is comparable.

[twilit remnant]

B2 sucks

[sand star]

hmmm so when you carry the fog turbine and climb up a ladder it's put behind your backpack and it would still function

so what's the logic behind having to use both hands to carry it at all times?

[frail zinc]

yes

thats the answer

yes.

[nocturne flax]

Crispy balancing

[frail zinc]

fuck you and your dreams

[nocturne flax]

[frail zinc]

i need to get better at the game

[nocturne flax]

No

because your good already

[frail zinc]

im trash tho

i haven't touched any of the d tiers

im only good at aiming and listening

[mighty pond]

That gets you farther than most people tbh

[frail zinc]

tru

[errant vigil]

Me shoot enemy, Team yell "just use hammer"

[subtle cipher]

monkey brains. use big shoot stick. overcome universe. hammer for the weak. stick overrated. bang.

[errant vigil]

yes

[woeful vector]

No hammer is epic

[worldly cargo]

it is except when people insist on using it instead of guns when they suck at it and all you hear are tongue whips left and right :')

[modest aspen]

oof

Or when game is desynced for some reason

[brittle light]

when game is desynced I tend to miss like 80% of shots too, just because I shoot empty air

unless there's a choke point, then I can just randomly spray the masses

[ripe lichen]

Hey, quick Q regarding B3, will enemies just continue spawning forever after the 3rd terminal uplink is finished? Trying to find ways to make that last part easier.

[nocturne flax]

After your done with the last terminal, theres a non stop alarm

so you gotta rush to extract

[ripe lichen]

Fair, thought it might've been tied to leaving the Extreme objectives on the extraction point or similar. Cos that's a huge wave right at the end.

[nocturne flax]

nope

overload nor extreme activates an alarm

[ripe lichen]

Fair, fair, will have to try it again sometime anyway, thanks for the heads up!

[wild wyvern]

is it bad that i only just beat d2 pe

[devout river]

No

I have only tried D2 PE once

[atomic escarp]

It's never too late to beat anything PE

It took a long time for me to even unlock E1

[queen nymph]

D2 PE is super easy with the release of sniper sentry and HEL revolver

You can try to do that map with old school R4 tho. Will be 5x times more difficult

And it is not bad. Especially it is fairly challenging rundown

[nocturne flax]

Its a game, you play it at your own pace

The only.time theres pressure its literally when the timer goes up

[wild wyvern]

someone suggested sniper sentry but we took double cfoam instead, hows the sniper sentry good

[nocturne flax]

Its one shots everything

[wild wyvern]

for d2 pe specifically

[nocturne flax]

Literally

[wild wyvern]

when its just sleepers we didnt see a need for it

we just kite with hammers

[nocturne flax]

And 3/2 shots big guys

If you did pe you know its not just regular sleepers

Yoy have chargers from class 5 and out

Also extreme blood doors

[queen nymph]

I never bring C-foam for the D2 PE run

[nocturne flax]

Depends on your strat all the tools have its uses in that map

[queen nymph]

Waste of resources for a scans that will gradually increase to 5

[nocturne flax]

Really versatile

[queen nymph]

^

Two bio and two auto was the old strategy.
I think I can run two bio, one auto and one sniper in the extension rundown

[wild wyvern]

we didnt have chargers at all bc we did the scans fast enough

and we meleed the blood doors

but thanks for the idea

[hexed vapor]

That doesn't decide whether you get chargers?

[wild wyvern]

i mean i guess

we had zero chargers for high

[hexed vapor]

That's just RNG.

[wild wyvern]

k

[twilit remnant]

R n g

[nocturne flax]

R
N
G

[light totem]

G N R

[twilit remnant]

Just get good lol

Imagine needing 2 cfoam

[wild wyvern]

thats crazy

[hallow marsh]

in E1 in the extreme zone, the door leading 514 in the room with mothers just wont open, kept saying it was in lockdown even though the objective kept telling us to go to 514

im guessing its bugged, or is there something else you need to do

[delicate chasm]

@hallow marsh probably a bug because you can open all the way to the blood door on reactor code 2/6

the blood door is in lockdown

until you put code 3/6

[nocturne flax]

If doors dont open, its either a really rare bug or desync

[delicate chasm]

^

[hallow marsh]

yeah we could never get the code for 3/6

just wouldnt let us get to it

was a nightmare

[delicate chasm]

probably desync did the host disconnect?

[hallow marsh]

yeah there was a host migrate

[delicate chasm]

at somepoint before starting reactor

[hallow marsh]

yeah

[delicate chasm]

that was probably the reason for it then

[nocturne flax]

Host migration makes everythint so surreal at time

[atomic escarp]

Lol

[twilit remnant]

host migration saved our asses so many times

lol

[delicate chasm]

imagine host migration smh

[mighty pond]

Imagine host smh

[nocturne flax]

Gotta play trought a raspberry pi 3

[twilit remnant]

lmao you know whats funny

people thinking biotracker is non essential

and an "okay" tool

[nocturne flax]

Hol on

[open owl]

Biotracker gang represent

[nocturne flax]

Just respond with this

[delicate chasm]

it really is none essential unless its against shadows

[twilit remnant]

....

[delicate chasm]

it just helps

[twilit remnant]

look at this duuudeee

[nocturne flax]

Just like every tool

[delicate chasm]

and in fog i guess

[nocturne flax]

It helps

[runic mountain]

does c3 overload mean infinitely spawning waves of chargers? or do they stop

[twilit remnant]

biotracker is usefull in every single situation you can imagine in GTFO

[open owl]

to be fair no tool is essential

[delicate chasm]

infinity

4 every 30 second or something dunno really havent cared counting

[twilit remnant]

20

4 every 20

[nocturne flax]

It dont matter if it pings it helps

[delicate chasm]

its HELPS but its not really needed but yeah its really only used for shadows and fog

[twilit remnant]

its the most versitile tool in all of gtfo

change my mind

[nocturne flax]

[delicate chasm]

that's your opinion cant really change that, like my opinion on the bio

[twilit remnant]

like when are you gonna use a sentry gun

oh i know when youre defending

[nocturne flax]

People

Its a tool

[twilit remnant]

and... thats pretty much it

[mighty pond]

Versatile doesn't innately mean best

[nocturne flax]

It does one thing and one thing only

It works

Thsts it

[unborn sorrel]

sniper sentry is the most versatile - it protecc, it attac, it kill big guys in the bacc

[delicate chasm]

yeah people have there own opinions on it thats all im on about

[twilit remnant]

just use a normal sniper lol

[mighty pond]

Each tool has their own purposes. No tool is required to finish levels, so they're all shit

Deal with it

[delicate chasm]

2 shots wait 3 years to load the next 2

[twilit remnant]

but

2 gaurenteed kills

[mighty pond]

No buts

[twilit remnant]

on anything

[mighty pond]

Not anything

Bigs or below

[twilit remnant]

anything that isnt considered a boss enemy

🙂

[mighty pond]

well, mothers at this rate aren't really boss enemies

and it doesn't kill them

[twilit remnant]

theyre uncommon as fuck compared to

[delicate chasm]

more of a mini boss

[twilit remnant]

hybrids

[nocturne flax]

Hybris where rare once too you know

[mighty pond]

uncommon doesn't immediately class it as boss

[nocturne flax]

Uncommon enemy

[twilit remnant]

i

[mighty pond]

shadows are uncommon

[twilit remnant]

ugh

im not gonna bother talkin

[mighty pond]

okie

[quiet hound]

Spitters are uncommon

[delicate chasm]

big mother and tank are the only thing i guess you can count as a boss, even tho you can easily kill the tank in 10 seconds unless he grinds his ass against the wall or if the mother runs

[quiet hound]

They are the toughest boss in the game

[mighty pond]

shii

u rite

[delicate chasm]

tbh i feel like the mother spawns way less than R3D1

[atomic escarp]

Nah fam, fall damage is the toughest boss

[mighty pond]

most OP enemy in GTFO right there. 10CC please nerf

[strong basalt]

what

[light totem]

fall damage >:)

def the most OP

[nocturne flax]

A joke

[delicate chasm]

remove your legs and you wont take fall damaged that's what i do smh

[strong basalt]

mhm

[nocturne flax]

If i can add the amount of health ive lost by fall damage, ill say it would be 100.000

[atomic escarp]

Rookie numbers

[open owl]

tank is barely a boss at this point, you can literally grind them on E1 for easy xp/loot

[frail zinc]

Mothers are more annoying than tanks

would fight a tank over a mother

[twilit remnant]

I'd fight a tonk over a mother too

[graceful sonnet]

the real boss is gravity

fall damage and alerting someone through landing

[frail zinc]

im indeed a boss

[noble chasm]

Pog

[queen nymph]

Can you imagine 4 prisoners going in with wheelchairs

🦼

[tribal ledge]

hey, anyone that's done B3, I just wanna make sure this was scripted or a glitch...|| we were in zone 41 doing the last uplink with me on the terminal and the entire first wave spawned directly behind me in the same room like 5 ft away and immediately killed me. It spooked us all and it happened so quick we're just trying to figure out how to go about it for the next time lol||

[queen nymph]

Terminal wave spawns in the same zone as your terminal. If you split the team in different zone there’s a chance they just spawn on you

[tribal ledge]

ouch. alrighty. they were just outside the room guarding doors so im guessing it was enough to let em spawn inside. thanks lol

[thin palm]

Guys, I just had fun on D2 pe and wiped after 2,5h. Could you tell me when the timer starts on raising fog and how long it takes?

[nocturne flax]

After younput the 2 cells

You have like 30 min

[thin palm]

in extremem or high?

[velvet flower]

There are only 3 areas in Z41, so if both your teammate standing outside the room => you occupy all three areas => they spawn wherever they want.

[nocturne flax]

Extreme obviously

[thin palm]

k

thanks, that was the trap then i didn't know about

[noble chasm]

C3 seems a lil nutty

[devout river]

It has a lot of fog

[open owl]

C3 PE is indeed a little nutty

[quiet hound]

C3 overload only is a lil nutty

[pliant shard]

C3 Overload is confirmed lil nutty

[whole grail]

@feral token

[atomic escarp]

OwO

[queen nymph]

Nut

[delicate chasm]

nuts

[hexed vapor]

C3 Overload only is the real shit.

Extreme is secretly easy mode.

[delicate chasm]

do extreme first then overload tbh overload is easy 5-10minutes tops

if people cant kill tank then yeah longer

[hexed vapor]

Don't do extreme for the real difficulty.

[delicate chasm]

nah keep the tank in the map and go to extreme

[mighty pond]

C3 Overload/High imo is harder than the actual PE which I find hilarious

[quiet stone]

wat, extreme is just an extra layer added on tho.

[mighty pond]

Yes, but the fog is no longer infectious

[quiet stone]

ohhhh

I see now

Yes

[mighty pond]

And it moves up

It's the true chad move to do Overload first

then go through your PE experience

[quiet stone]

We did overload first on our first attempt

kinda died

[mighty pond]

Don't worry, I think everyone did that

At least I know I did lol

[desert shell]

I just discovered how to shotgun correctly

[atomic escarp]

Just don't

Ez

[desert shell]

if the enemy is smaller than your crosshairs aim for the head/upper chest

[quiet hound]

If the enemy is smaller than your cross hairs you probably shouldn’t be shotgunning

[winter pilot]

did we ever see that tentacle thing from the trailer

id really like to fight something other than just runners

|| aside from the bosses i mean ||

[robust marsh]

snatcher you mean?

they still hopefully working on it

[winter pilot]

he got a name?

[atomic escarp]

Snatcher

[robust marsh]

we all hope he comes out one day

[winter pilot]

i like the enemies we have ALOt

just hope we get more variety than human shaped

[drowsy remnant]

hey, can anyone tell me how B1 extraction blood door works, the one with alarm, basically defend wave on door, then defend while opening the door?

[noble chasm]

tbh i dont remember that specifically but yea probably what you said

[brittle light]

ye

u have class IV alarm

[noble chasm]

scans first and then pop the door afterwards

[brittle light]

then when that done

u open door and enemies come from door

then literally 0-danger extraction

one of the first blood doors newbies might encounter :D

[drowsy remnant]

thx for info

save us quite a bit

we failed B1 High on first try but did on second

what u need to do on B3 Extreme?

[brittle light]

haven't done B3 yet, sry

[drowsy remnant]

and which of the C levels had the reactor thingy as in B1 extreme

which C level is easiest aswell?

[noble chasm]

C2 was p easy

[woeful vector]

C2 is pretty easy yeah, C1 you're forced to fight a tank but imo C1 is much easier if you do landmine cheese with the tank. Unless you're doing the 12 stage uplink- fuck that thing

[sick hornet]

uplink isnt that bad if you manage your tool and bring 2 or 3 cfoam launchers

[woeful vector]

The group i play with doesn't handle time management very well so we can't time the doors rightb

Right*

[atomic escarp]

I recently did C1 Extreme where the door broke because we didn't have enough foam

We still managed to fight the waves decently

[sick hornet]

i wrote a guide for c1 somewhere, idk where it is though explaining just where everything should be used to make it as easy as possible

[woeful vector]

Oh- Does anyone have the list for the doors on D2? I remember that someone posted it before I just don't have it anymore

[sick hornet]

for high, extreme, or overload

[woeful vector]

High

Is going into Zone 96 on D2 recommended? It's a loot room and has the fog turbine- but has a Surge alarm. The first time my term attempted it that's where we died

[drowsy remnant]

what is surge alarm?

[woeful vector]

It's like a normal alarm except it's all full team scans and I believe that the maximum number of enemies allowed in a horde spawn as a wave

[atomic escarp]

An alarm that immediately spawn sleepers up to the cap and is always a team scan for the duration of the alarm

[drowsy remnant]

thx

[toxic dagger]

you don’t need 3 c foam for c1

[hexed vapor]

You only need one launcher, just don't waste your tools.

[nocturne flax]

no

the more tools of the same the better

bring 4 ss back

[hexed vapor]

I mean, they kind of did.

4 Sniper Sentry (literally SS) is comparable if not straight up better.

Hell, you get 9 shots instead of 8 shells, that's fuckin' strong.

They brought back 4SS meta.

If SS isn't just a meme for R4Ext they absolutely need to hard buff burst sentry.

Or just give SS a mild nerf to kill a few less enemies per tool refill.

[nocturne flax]

nah burst buff would be a lot better

rather than nerfing the ss

it already have a huge drawback

the 4 second delay

burst sentry could use slightly more damage and more ammo

[noble chasm]

Does a fully charged melee kill a scout to the head

[atomic escarp]

It does

[noble chasm]

Any side?

I keep hitting its shoulder from the back

[atomic escarp]

Just not the neck

[frail zinc]

dont go from the back

the back is messy

go from front

[noble chasm]

Yeah ive noticed >.<

[atomic escarp]

If you're going to go for the back at least jump

Before you land the hit

[frail zinc]

yeah usually people jump going from the back

[hexed vapor]

I mean, that's a pretty minor drawback for its absurd efficiency. There's a reason SS R1 and R2 was objectively better in every way. If you want to shoot faster, bring two of them.

[noble chasm]

Thank you 🙏

[frail zinc]

Or if you're Seven you just walk into the scout

i mean what

[noble chasm]

Pog

[toxic dagger]

stfu

i kill more scouts on a daily basis than you have in your gtfo career @frail zinc :(

[frail zinc]

you never leave any for others to kill

[hexed vapor]

Relatable.

[twilit remnant]

Sniper sentry isn't as op yes its bullet to kill is insane but it's rof is stupidly slow to where a crapton of enemies will run past it

Pair it with an auto then it will be better

[winter pilot]

i dunno how your supposed to do these side objectives like holy shit

the game is hard enough

[winter pilot]

im not saying make it easier

just

i cant comprehend being able to do it

im mad we failed cuz behind a door we saw this weird thing ive never seen before

and it was a sleeper i think

[mossy yoke]

You'll get there, I believe in you!

[delicate chasm]

E1 extreme balanced? yes

[open owl]

What expedition?

[hexed vapor]

Probably a scout

[delicate chasm]

C1?

[open owl]

[delicate chasm]

the tank is only thing i can guess because scouts a pretty normal on the lower and hes played r2 so hes ran into scouts before

unless a mother dunno

[hexed vapor]

He was talking about side objectives, I'd bet it's a birther.

E1 Extreme isn't as hard as I expected it to be tbh, but I also ran it w/ a pretty experienced static.

[winter pilot]

r4b1

[hexed vapor]

Def a birther

[open owl]

Yup

[delicate chasm]

yeah last code then

[winter pilot]

the fuck is a birther

[delicate chasm]

for reactor

[open owl]

Well, it gives birth to things

[winter pilot]

oh god

we rly dead space now

[atomic escarp]

Yes

As the name suggests

[winter pilot]

good

[atomic escarp]

It births

Babies

[delicate chasm]

its not really hard just messing about but we had a very bad mother spawn

[hexed vapor]

Oh, could suck.

Maybe not in the long-run, but that room can get very tense.

[queen nymph]

Less RNG? My team had 9 hybrids and two giants in 456 once and three scouts plus 5 mixed sleepers in the first area of the final terminal zone in the extreme part

[hexed vapor]

(or at least my team used strats that would mean it wouldn't matter too much).

[delicate chasm]

we had 2 mothers sitting at the door on 513

[open owl]

Are you able to just shoot the waves in E1 extreme provided your code hunter is quick enough?

[delicate chasm]

yeah

[hexed vapor]

That is one way of doing it, but most groups avoid it since it requires very fast code hunting.

[velvet flower]

Yeah, and it's probably the intended way to beat it.

[delicate chasm]

melee the first 3 waves of the reactor then shoot for the rest ez

[open owl]

If it was the intended way they wouldn't have made the waves so easy to melee

[hexed vapor]

I did solo code hunting while everyone else in my static was hammering waves. Once I brought the cell back, I joined them for clearing so that they could set up for using guns and sentries.

[velvet flower]

Yeah, should have put it some chargers.

[queen nymph]

Tbh, if you decide not to freeze the mother at the end, just kill those 4 mothers with 3/4 c-foam

[delicate chasm]

big chargers

[hexed vapor]

Not worth imo, especially if you're not running a kit specifically for birther killing. 4 birther room is never a threat unless you massively screw up, which is usually a wipe anyway.

[delicate chasm]

wave 6 should of been hybrids, big/ small chargers and shadows

[open owl]

What we did was hammer everything until 6th code

So even if you put chargers in that specific wave our strat would have been the same

[pseudo pumice]

my team only hammers the first wave then shoots while i get the codes, so i don't think it's required to hammer everything

[delicate chasm]

not really i would like to see you melee 2 big charges coming at you

a single big charger yes easy 2 no

[hexed vapor]

My static had ammo issues, especially since I usually take a long while in z514.

[open owl]

I said we start shooting at wave 6

Mainly cause of hybrids

[delicate chasm]

glow sticks only

[queen nymph]

The RNG behind the blood door

[hexed vapor]

Blood door has never alerted zone for me.

[pseudo pumice]

same

well maybe once

[queen nymph]

Once for me

[hexed vapor]

I never want enemies to scream in birther room, so I retreat into z514C.

[queen nymph]

And I got extra 4 hybrids in the room because of the RNG lol

[hexed vapor]

Whatever survives mines I can clean up.

[delicate chasm]

best 1 ive had is mostly all enemies behind the blood door, b and c with like 3 sleepers

[queen nymph]

If you put mine facing inside the blood door, it will alert the room (don’t do it)

[pseudo pumice]

tbh extreme is easy except for code 6

[hexed vapor]

Code 6 is tough but not even that hard.

[winter pilot]

whats the best weapon loadout?

i cnat figure out what to bring and the ones i do feel like they do no damage

[pseudo pumice]

only been able to get the code once, if the code spawns in the back it's over

[winter pilot]

smg especially

[hexed vapor]

No such thing, run weapons with the intention to use them efficiently.

[queen nymph]

Code 6 is tough when the RNG decides to put all enemies in one room

[hexed vapor]

Our clear had a pretty meh spawn.

A had hybrids, B had a bunch of normal enemies and shadow titans, C had four shadow scouts and shadows.

[queen nymph]

My clear run had 4 scout without any sleepers in the first area so I could rush in

[pseudo pumice]

i had 2 in a and 2 in c

no enemies in b, and the code was in b

super easy

[hexed vapor]

Generally, the 6th code should be pretty consistent even w/ bad spawns if your group is good enough.

I don't even clear 516 w/ bio.

[queen nymph]

The rest of my code 6 run were either 3 scouts with bunch of shadows/ shadow giants or all scouts in the tiny room at the end so they never separated

[pseudo pumice]

it's more about if the solo is good enough

i can get through 5 no problem but something about 6 i dunno

[queen nymph]

Plus luck I guess

[pseudo pumice]

it really depends on rng for me

[hexed vapor]

6 I've never had bad alerts in, getting it done before my teammates lose control is the main difficulty.

As long as everyone at the front is performing well, you have a lot of time.

[queen nymph]

That’s why I hate the RNG element in this game. The game is hard as it is but some RNG is just super questionable and sometimes you fail the run and you just learn nothing from it

[pseudo pumice]

if two shadow scouts spawn in b with tons of shadows and shadow giants, i'm screwed

[hexed vapor]

Wouldn't see that as run ending, the hybrids are probably the worst spawn to get in a bad spot.

Shadow titans maybe depending on where in the room they are.

[pseudo pumice]

every time i've died it's because a shadow giant woke up after killing a scout

[queen nymph]

I just want a good code 6 spawn

[hexed vapor]

Does the shadow titan itself or the scout wave kill you?

[pseudo pumice]

i don't think i've ever triggered the scout wave in there tbh

or if i did, i did not die to it

[hexed vapor]

Just get better at fighting shadow titans, R4 they're incredibly easy to fight imo.

[pseudo pumice]

yeah well

[hexed vapor]

Pull them back to a corner where you can easily spot them w/ weapon lights and DPS them down.

[pseudo pumice]

if they immediately wake up and kill u not much fighting you can do

i just hate that zone so much, sure might not be difficult for u but i just despise it

[queen nymph]

Yeah, shadow giant attack immediately when they wake up lol

[hexed vapor]

You should be able to hear them tongue or move, no?

If you're right next to one, usually best not to kill scouts to begin w/.

You can also flash them immediately after a scout kill to see what they're doing. If they react to your light, you immediately know they're asleep.

[manic vapor]

hey guys

how long does the run in b2 take?

[nocturne flax]

1 hour

[manic vapor]

even the first time?

[nocturne flax]

less even

first time its your own pace

my first completion was like 1 hour 20 ish meter i think

[manic vapor]

thanks a lot

[hexed vapor]

B2 main?

[queen nymph]

B2 main and don't know what you're doing? 2 hours maybe

[bold widget]

Boys what you think is c3 harder then d1?

[delicate chasm]

depends like c3 PE and D1 extreme or just the high (main objective) versions of it

[bold widget]

C3 PE and d1 extreme

[delicate chasm]

D1

[bold widget]

Agreed

[delicate chasm]

C3 PE make the mission easier

[bold widget]

It's a big blergh

[delicate chasm]

do extreme first then overload then of course main for C3

[bold widget]

I did c3 PE

D1 extreme missing thoe

[delicate chasm]

tbh i can really give a good comparison because i did complete them first go for C3 PE and D1 extreme

but i would say D1

IMO

[bold widget]

Aight tx

Tyty

[delicate chasm]

i think the only missions i didnt do first go was A2 PE wrong cell placement so we couldn't of progressed in the mission B2 overload went for overload last and died 1 when we went there first and D2 learning the 1hour completion and E1 speaks for its self

[bold widget]

Oof

Did you do E1? ;p

[delicate chasm]

yeah

[bold widget]

Including extreme?

[solemn bough]

Which level contains the new shadow scout and big charger show up?

[pliant shard]

shadow scouts c2 PE and big charger d2

[delicate chasm]

C2 for both

[solemn bough]

do they show up only in overload or extreme?

or in the main objectives?

[delicate chasm]

Overload

[solemn bough]

cool thanks so much

[delicate chasm]

And I think the big charge might be either extreme or high unsure but the both come on that mission

[solemn bough]

okay

if I can kill invisible spagetti I can kill visible spagetyyie

[pliant shard]

thats what we like to hear :D

[atomic escarp]

That's the spirit

[mighty pond]

iirc big charger no longer spawn in C2, they were replaced by hybrids when the rundown extension hit. This also extends to the D2 overload surge.

[solemn wigeon]

Ehm, I think I saw big chargers a few days ago when doing D2 overload surge but don't quote me on that

[mortal granite]

it has a chance to spawn

[candid pelican]

I havent seen big chargers spawn in d2 surge in such a long time

I've only seen hybrids

[winter pilot]

The invisible sleepers bug me

Like how does a human turn invisible

[queen storm]

#gtfo-lore message

[winter pilot]

Maybe it’s like glass frogs

[noble chasm]

For ppl who have done pe b2 (generator cluster map)

Should you do the lower base security door and get the cells before going to the other door where the overload is?

I know putting in cells moves fog around

[pliant shard]

Yeah it’s best to go in the lower section and do that to have cells prepared. Fog repellers also spawn there to help you in the fog section

[noble chasm]

Yea cause my squad keeps trying to do the upper area through fog

But we were worried the fog would shift into the overload room

[nocturne flax]

Go to extreme, get key go to gen cluster do alarm, go open lower door and the the 2 cells put them near gen (not in), go trough upper area, bring cells back, go do overload

Thats like the "in a nutshell" of b2

[pliant shard]

If you put in 2 cells the upper area will be clear but all of overload will be full of fog (not optimal)

So best to do the scans in fog first and then have a nice and clear overload

[noble chasm]

Thats what we figured

[pliant shard]

B2 PE is very challenging so don’t be afraid to move onto lower tiers if you haven’t finished it

I beat d2 PE before b2 PE

[noble chasm]

Why would you do the lower door first at all before the overload section

[solemn wigeon]

I still haven't done d2 pe

[noble chasm]

I mean you have to go into the upper door and you will probably lose there if anything so like

[pliant shard]

It’s best to go lower so that when you head out of overload you can do the fog searching out of fog (by having the 2 cells prepared and ready to put in) the lower section is also the only place fog repellers spawn in iirc

Or have a high chance to spawn at least

[solemn wigeon]

Doing Lower first is good for time

[pliant shard]

You’ll also find extra resources you can take into overload to increase you chances of survival

[noble chasm]

Oh i get that now

I mean you get a lot of resources in that map

[solemn wigeon]

The hardest bit of high is the upper area alarmed door

[pliant shard]

You do so usually isn’t an issue. The less time you spend in the level with the error alarm going on the more chance for surivival. That’s the game plan I usually have with my team

[noble chasm]

The other issue we started running into is the 4+ scouts behind doors in overload

And enemies spawning ahead

To wake em up

[solemn wigeon]

Just don't run into scouts 5head

Also that overload room is one room

[noble chasm]

Too bad the enemies will

[pliant shard]

Yeah those can be tricky. You have to be confident in hammering the scouts in good positions. Best strategy for this is to have 1-2 people in the room clearing scouts while 2 defend. They won’t spawn inside the scout room at all

[noble chasm]

Not the base overload room

[solemn wigeon]

O

[noble chasm]

There are three security doors in that room

Each has 2-3 scouts

[solemn wigeon]

Just wall bang the scouts. Ezpz

[atomic escarp]

bang or bonk?

[pliant shard]

Ahhh I see. I forgot the zone numbers but the one on the left with the class 6 can be tricky. They can spawn ahead there but the scouts usually are split up because there are lots of zones. If they are by themselves I recommend just blasting them Away and hammering the rest of the room

[noble chasm]

Idk maybe its cause theres too much distance between the front two and the back two but they keep spawning ahewd

Ive had them spawn inthe room i was in

[nocturne flax]

Best thing you can do in there its before opening the door, wait a spawn sequence

so you'll have a solid 30ish seconds of breathing room to go and clear

[solemn wigeon]

If shadow scouts then bonk if scouts then bang usually

[noble chasm]

Yea but its like 4-5 rooms lets say

[nocturne flax]

Overload forces you to move fast

[dreamy bramble]

i'd bring a guy with a bio and a choke shotgun so he can just hunt scouts before they spawn on them

[solemn wigeon]

That's how I go about it in a hurry

[noble chasm]

So maybe we should be taking it less slowly

[dreamy bramble]

yeah its pretty frantic

[nocturne flax]

another thing you its pull back so they spawn somewhere else

[nocturne flax]

You have to move quickly

[solemn wigeon]

You are speed

[noble chasm]

Yea idk its clicked to go slow cause the ppl behind have >20 hp

Meaning we can take our time

[nocturne flax]

Also you might have to go trough a alarm blood door, just take your time in there

[noble chasm]

Yea we have opened all the doors overall at this point

[nocturne flax]

thats the only place i will tell you to go slithyl slower

[solemn wigeon]

Health is meant to be taken

[noble chasm]

I heard a guy say that as long as players dont step into a new zone, enemies have a much much smaller chance of spawning there/ahead

[solemn wigeon]

Lies

[dreamy bramble]

don't know if that's true or not but i doubt it

but tbh i haven't really opened doors just to not enter the zone lol

[solemn wigeon]

99.999% of the time I did A2 PE, the moment we touched the overload door the enemies spawned inside

[nocturne flax]

Enemies will spawn on whatver zone its active

so if you have a security door wich you didnt open that zone count as inactive

nothing will spawn inside that zone

[dreamy bramble]

well yeah

i think hes talking about if you open the door but don't walk in

[nocturne flax]

oh

nah man they'll spawn in and shit

[solemn wigeon]

It sucks

Haha scout go brrr

[dreamy bramble]

just another 12 to

[noble chasm]

F

[dreamy bramble]

huh

[noble chasm]

i dont understand the question

[atomic escarp]

idk

[noble chasm]

does the sound file really matter???

or the name of the sound file rather

[nocturne flax]

This is not the place to talk about things that are datamined

[noble chasm]

also ^^

[nocturne flax]

If its a video, i know wich one your talking about

but like i said you will not find answers here

[winter pilot]

I’m surprised the warden doesn’t want us to capture some Sleepers for investigation and tests

[nocturne flax]

Well we did capture the pmother sample in R2A1

[solemn wigeon]

what does pmother stand for anyway

[nocturne flax]

prime mother

[frail zinc]

big mommy

[delicate chasm]

[subtle cipher]

My bad. I just happened to find a video of the sounds of enemies, and I got confused when it mentioned it. Didn't know it was datamined.

[drowsy remnant]

what is alarm door without class on C2?

[subtle vault]

4

[drowsy remnant]

is it just class 1 or something special?

[subtle vault]

zone 12 is a class 4 alarm

and during it a hybrid might spawn

[drowsy remnant]

hybrids spawn in waves or inside door?

[subtle vault]

wave

[drowsy remnant]

hybrids were those black guys?

[subtle vault]

no

chargers are the black guys

[drowsy remnant]

does mothers and colosus spawn on C2?

there is mother in zone 12?

[subtle vault]

yep

[drowsy remnant]

how much 1/2/3?

[subtle vault]

1

[drowsy remnant]

oh isee

thx guys

[subtle vault]

no

[light totem]

Shadow spitters when

[atomic escarp]

not

[delicate chasm]

charger shadows when?

[light totem]

^

Shadow uncle joe

[subtle vault]

shadow shadows when

[delicate chasm]

charger shadow scouts when that only die to the back of the head

[subtle vault]

A level that has no enemies when

[delicate chasm]

then spawns 20 tanks at the end

[sacred slate]

a level with only sleeping tanks and alarms that spawn tanks when?

[delicate chasm]

a level 99% under infected fog spawn with a fog turbine

and lots of nut sacks

[drowsy remnant]

ok, my worst rng, zone 13 6 scouts xD

C2 level

[atomic escarp]

There always is 6 scouts there

Afaik

In the same room though, that's a different story

What happened though?

[drowsy remnant]

6 in same room and 4 more in different room xD

so 10 total

in zone 13

[unborn sorrel]

We had 7 scouts on ours in z13

[drowsy remnant]

and we not knowing alerted all scouts and colosus came with chargers and hybrids and we got wiped

[unborn sorrel]

lul

We dealt with all of them but one and then my friend triggered one not knowing about the ladder invuln

[drowsy remnant]

that was gg xD

[unborn sorrel]

But yeah triggering all of them seems gameover

[delicate chasm]

nah

[drowsy remnant]

same as with A2 cursed overload where waves spawn on other side of bulkhead when u open it xD

[robust marsh]

its not

its just the same surge alarms comeing at you

[drowsy remnant]

wanted to ask what difference between surge alarm and normal class alarm?

[robust marsh]

but it ends at some point

[unborn sorrel]

sigh I'm sure you can survive it, yes.

[robust marsh]

enemy cap go brrrrrrr

it spawns the whole enemy cap on you

and if you kill one it will be replaced insta

[atomic escarp]

Triggering all the scouts is a fun time

If not seizure inducing

[robust marsh]

it is kinda

[drowsy remnant]

wait, so surge means all of em spawn on me instead of 2 rooms away?

[delicate chasm]

yeah my team got a desync on a shadow scout and he didnt die and 7 more shadow scouts got alerted

we survived

[unborn sorrel]

no they still spawn away, just the full enemy cap at once

so you'll get a lot more enemies than you're used to

[drowsy remnant]

basically instead of multiple waves u get huge one?

[delicate chasm]

just felt like an alarm tbh just around 50 or something shadows

[robust marsh]

yes a huge wave that cant be ended

as every enemy you kill will be replaced right away

[drowsy remnant]

ok, so how to survive it then?

[delicate chasm]

shoot

[robust marsh]

kite and do the scans

[atomic escarp]

Kill

Rip and tear

Until it is done

[robust marsh]

and also shoot

[dreamy bramble]

stagger or kite

[robust marsh]

if one of your teamates go down

you will kite

[delicate chasm]

rip and tear

[robust marsh]

unless you really need to run

[dreamy bramble]

just kill what is immediately on you and nothing more if you want to hold ground

[drowsy remnant]

basically u shoot unless potty calls for u and u go bouncy bouncy?

[dreamy bramble]

worst possible way to say it but yes

[atomic escarp]

You basically play doom but only melee

[robust marsh]

its like basocally you shoot unless they all on you and one of you go down after that you go bouncy bouncy

[robust marsh]

kinda for kiteing it

[drowsy remnant]

doom guy but without his suit and weapons

[atomic escarp]

Mhm

[drowsy remnant]

well no shit

[robust marsh]

he will still rip and tear

[drowsy remnant]

so on C2 u open left door first get all shit u need and dont touch zone 12, then go blood door on right yes?

[delicate chasm]

we will send onto them only plant

[robust marsh]

?

in C2

[atomic escarp]

What I like to do in C2 is alarm for zone 10, blood door, zone 11, loot 14, then go from there

[robust marsh]

you always open blood door at the start first

[robust marsh]

good strat

[dreamy bramble]

imagine not going to zone 13

[atomic escarp]

If we're feeling dumb we open blood door while doing the scan for zone 10

[drowsy remnant]

zone 13 was nice, wanted to fight the mama but resources were kinda low and no cfoam -_-

[dreamy bramble]

13 is 6 scout zone

12 is mama room i think

or 11

[atomic escarp]

12 is mother zone, you right

[robust marsh]

i did a mad man move

[drowsy remnant]

mother was fine

[robust marsh]

we woke up the mother in one of the side zones in B3

overload

we are madmans

[atomic escarp]

Totally didn't spend 20 minutes trying to melee mother because of ammo scarcity

[robust marsh]

kill a mother with a hammer: legend
kill the mother and all the babys without taking damage: GOD

[drowsy remnant]

does colossus spawn on C2 or no?

[atomic escarp]

Father tank?

[drowsy remnant]

ye

[atomic escarp]

No