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oh FFS not this again,
lmao
...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh shitt. r4e1 gonna replace r2e1 for hardest difficulty ๐ค
Only, if E1 is full of S scans
s? surge?
Nah
People calling it sustain
can i find it on wiki?
doubt it
The % decreases if not everyone is inside the scan
OH
I can tell you what it is but it would be more fun if you find it yourself
oh no..
I bet E1 is gonna have an S2 or an S3 scan to fuck with us
ah, so its basically a surge alarm. exept not really?
do we need to beat d2 pe in order to access e1?
u still need everyone inside
no
cause d2 pe keeps destroying us with our luck
You need 10 high completes, 6 extreme, 3 overload, 1 PE
You need everyone inside, it takes 2 minutes per circle and it prevents kiting
You lose 1%/2s
ok, so i just need to beat A3 and B3 on high
Ye
appearently B3 PE is easier than A3 PE
Uh no
we died on A3 PE because of the pillars by the class 4 blood
The overload sector has 2 S scans
In b3?
Ye
S = Surge?
Nah
no
Sustain
new scan
oh neat
i also heard of new enemy type
Trust me B3 PE is not easy
is there a new enemy or is e1 just talking about big shadows
If there is a new enemy its most likely in E1
Mmm big shadow
i hope to see a new enemy
At least E1 doesn't have PE
im dead
im also excited to see big shadows, never seen them
feel like i saw one a single time
mighta been a small charger tho
was during an alarm
Noice
is gtfo on sale rn?
aight, thanks
Has anyone seen the new enemy yet?
oh god
doesn't necessarily mean enemy
Probably referring to the ||tanks||
work?
New levels feel a lot more refined, difficulty is about where I'd expect it to be and resources are actually fairly constricted.
Also, ||S1 is genuinely a good way of making alarms hard.||
you know this is the spoiler chat
Yes, most of R4 felt a bit unrefined and very little of it constricted players even on high difficulties.
you dont have to black everything
I know, but generally not everyone in this chat wants to spoil everything.
its the user problem if he joins this channel and sees spoilers
What's the new alarm type?
yes but saying that everyone in this chat dosen't want spoilers is not a good way of saying it
its really good
anti kiteing
||Team scans which regress w/out all players in them.||
I didn't say everyone?
I said "not everyone"
ok you do you i drop it there
The negation of which is not "everyone does not"
Interesting
dont want to argue over something stupid ๐
Tbh, If ray wants to do it. Let him
i said i drop it so you should too
But no, R4 was not very difficult or refined.
D2 PE is hard, but not really that gruelling, the extreme is 75% of the difficulty.
because you know almost every trick in the book
I've been playing since R1, I don't mean they were just easy for vets, I mean they really were easy in general.
for new players trust me its nightmare
Especially since layered difficulty promised very hard content for lower tiers, the fact that the D and C tier overloads weren't actually much to deal with was arguably a bad thing.
i dont have a lot of knowledge on this topic soo ya i let others argue or agree with you
overall layered difficulty was not what we expected it to be, with it being common and required for progression
it's not bad design, but since it's not what was expected, the difficulty scaling is different too naturally
its an alarm that is anti kiteing
you don't scan, you lose progress
Spicy
thats all you need to know more stuff ask Ray
There are also two different S1 scans, a large one and a small one.
The large one takes forever, the small ones much less time, closer to a normal team scan.
If they aren't being progressed, they regress at about the same rate at which they progress.
They also spawn either fairly normal waves or very large but otherwise ordinary waves.
Oof
what happens in solo i wonder
Death 
I feel like this is the latest "death of solo," which will last until someone actually soloes it.
You could probably get positive progress w/ circle kiting.
i was thinking in terms of large one scan time
Circle kiting it will be fine
like
you're one dude and you scan at the progress of one dude
Oh, yah.
but if what you say is right, would it regress at the rate of 4 people?
I mean, it's only a harder version of R3D1, just hit spawn cap so you can't get titans/tanks.
Yeah
I'm pretty sure it's a binary, Storm, like most team scans.
not sure what binary means here
ye
Only one rate
Full team = progress at fixed rate.
Not full team (0 players or 3 players in quad) = regress at fixed rate.
are we on the same page here?
team scan progresses hella slow in solo
I've done C2 PE solo, seems about the same.
Full team. Surge same rate
oh well surge is different from team
The all team surge type circle is binary yeah
Which is an assumption that S1 also uses it
Why is it called S1, even?
yes
๐ค
its called something elese
Sustaining was a good guess
but i forgot
But idk
because of neko
Spicy
Doc smh. Showing of weapon customization in that extension background
Just knock out two mains and do it.
Lol
What extremes from the core R4 are you missing?
Oof either way, A3 extreme and B3 extreme are pretty straightforward, though, if you just need to pick those two up.
ya
well B3 is a bit of challange
if you dont have enough ammo and you wake up the room
soo you missing a lot
Don't you need 8 or just 6?
Anyone done C3 Overload?
is second s1 meant to have a flood of enemies
we legit had like
spawn cap
ontop of us immediately
not even filtered they just ran in all together
no beacuse C3 is nightmare
We accidentally put the key in to the Overload, we got pretty far but ended up dying
@mossy yoke how to get scouts are friends role 
Just let doc see that message kek
๐ฟ
Do you pledge to protect scouts in their natural habitat?
dose that mean i need to kill the teamates trying to hurt them?
if u read my previous convo from a few hours ago, i wanted to buy a pen for my scouts to run and play in safety
thats scary and sad for the teammates
and he is guilty as fuck for it look at his pfp
prove it
Welcome to the cult
can we make one for scouts are food?
i join that if you make it
what you say doc?
absolutely not
):
scouts are friends
Z i just click on your pfp and i saw that gun lol
D2 PE quick question: at the end you basically kite all invisibles to prevent all the chargers to spawn? so no way to extract as 4?
Dose the perm alarm turn off?
opening the floodgate was fun
question, glowsticks don't trigger sleepers right?
They dont
WOOO unlocked E1
even if glowsticks are thrown at the sleepers?
It still wont wake them
ok thnx
someone in one of my squads keeps insisting a sleeper woke up with a red glowstick being thrown at it even though they did nothing
People say holding hack tool made scan go faster and you run faster with melee. There's a lot of things that people say
All of the stuff that doesn't make sense is usually wrong
I remember when r2 released, someone told me that red glow sticks don't wake up hybrids, but green ones do
@atomic escarp I remember that too
Jesus
@strange peak I'm answering your question in this chat since it's a spoiler. The 153 Turbine zone is behind a door that needs a key and has a tier:V alarm on it. It's inside the high Bulkhead
And jesus, C3 PE and E1 are insane 
so this rundown is the rundown with most missions so far
So anyone knows what is in E1 yet?
Idk if there is a new enemy
The level description might just be referring to the like 19373738 tanks I have heard are in that level
Well, there is a constant alarm of || Tanks ||
And more of the new scans on top of that
Big or smol tank
this is spoiler chat but i'll spoiler tag it anyway
we got pretty close to the end of E1
||the alarm gets turned off once you've got to the generators||
oh, just like ||R3D1?||
||there's no "new" enemy at the end as far as we're aware but we still had extraction and one error alarm left||
Think it was a normal one during the alarm
powering the generators does all of the following
||disable the tank error alarm||
||drop fog down||
||make fog infectious||
||open up the "lockdown" door as referenced in the objective||
||The only "new" enemy would be the big shadows, since they didn't spawn before now in R4||
||could also put big mother in there then ๐ ||
||oh true||
U WOT M8!?
Tankies
||e1 boss is just a big mother boss||
yo how many minutes between spawns is E1
4 minutes
@ rayalot72 lmfao
Enough to make me go oh god not another one right after I finished one
Lol
Yeah can relate to that had 4 up at once before I think
I can't see me beating it with randoms but it's fun to see the reactions 
what's the sequence on C3 PE?
overload->extreme->high?
high->overload->extreme?
high->extreme->overload?
im pretty sure you can't do all 3 if you start with high?
you can pick overload or extreme to start with
both have different consequences
seems to me that extreme first is better
The HEL Revolver being a primary is interesting
Double revolver is the way
it does?
when we did it was just a teamscan for like 100s in the same spot
It starts at 0 and goes up slowly
It has a pretty colour ngl
purple
Really
C3 PE is legit cursed lmao
Oof
hel revolver looks like wingman ๐
titanfall player spotted
Which ripped all the guns >;)
Deaddly 9 miss noises
imagine if the revolver got the HEL revolver's recoil
i have a bug where my hammer doesnt charge, it just immidietly swing, is there a way to fix this?
this is the first time its happened
its never happened before, it cant be my mouse
got it
Yeah it wears out over time
Try to right click and then hold lmb and see if you can charge. I had to temporarily do that until I got a new mouse or turn away and let it charge a bit before turning back
does sniper sentry got penetration bullet ?
im not quite sure but I'm assuming its not
10 chambers revolver when
To my understanding no it doesn't. I shot myself with it to test and it didn't kill the enemy behind me.
Im hearing Extreme>Overload> High
No penetration just absurd damage
the simple days
Wish the firerate was a little but faster
The broken rng days
The burst rifle and machinegun days

MP/MG days
I heard the legends of a class 9 warden door
R2B1 was a time pre-nerf
If we could turn back time
TO THE GOOD OLD DAYSSS
Aaah...... sacrifice
My favorite level
and big shados
Did anyone do E1 Extreme yet ?
not me
or at least get that far ?
scroll up
People have yes, whether they have finished or not is another story
could not even see the entrance door lol
What is E1 extreme objective
R3 big mommy wasn't .... that bad lol
If you knew what you were doing it was fine
||D2's tank||
D2 tank its the same as the one on c1
What do you mean??
Theres no variation on tank this rundown, they literally just introduce him in this r
Oh I thought that one was the big one sorry
Jesus fuck, E1 extreme is actually the hardest thing ever added to the game.
It has all of the factors to be just right for peak difficulty.
Might get easier w/ proper attempts, but holy shit.
well do you enjoy it
Not sure.
the challenge is nice but I don't even know how to beat C3

Some of the high (literal not path) difficulty stuff isn't necessarily fun for me, even if it's good. I think E1 Extreme is pretty good at being difficult, though.
Requires team to multi-task, birthers punish an inability to hold off the reactor waves, birthers punish alerts or a failure to survive, birthers punish causing scout waves.
If resources are low, players are encouraged to rotate as well to save time looting.
Also, tangible time pressure.
I enjoy it a lot
A lot of coordination is required and every player has to do their job in order for everyone to succeed
welp, I'm good at getting lost 
Yes sir
This door
made me
wanna
kms
Lol
Itโs fun
Which version
Nah
Cause I lurk
Ok boomer
But yeah. Which one of them
I can't wait for the days where i can say something without your arrogant ass coming on to be a kill joy

3 shot for the sentry to kill one big striker oof
F
h a n d
I think it works like other turrets did on the scouts
1 or 2 shots should do the trick i suppose
haha tank go brr
all tanks are the same?
Yes
I didn't encounter that problem, mine went down in 10 mines
how did you place the mines?
the d2 tank took 10 mines in my run
like horizontally on the door?
horizontal and vertical
ok so the sniper turret with 2 shot did 70 something damage to an scout from the front
will one shot
in the head
as i one taped it after it done screaming
nice and sad face
no it didn't
Thats strange..
Ye ye
you guys got any tips for e1?
pray
run
hide
you can run but you can never hide
Survive
don't die
Kill all the enemies
for the first part you basically want to kill the tank as fast as you can
you'll be killing one tank each zone if things go fine
try and find spots in each zone where the tank ai isn't a bitch
got any tips for dealing with ammo
if possible
because doing it just me and my friend and we run out of ammo by the class 3 s1 alarm
we do find ammo but we run out
if you were trying it with 2 players, you should really find more people
scans in this game are slower with less people
even if they are team scans
A solo S1 scan would take so long
this now makes a huge difference for the S1 alarms
the fast S1 scans
like those from the class 3
take 140 seconds solo
So not all are the same speed?
there's 2 types
the small fast ones that they use on the multiclass ones
and the big slow ones if it's just class 1
Did we discern why it's called an S1
s for sustain
Fair but what about the 1 ๐ฉ
saujagusicsha 1 scan
Class? Or number of scans
Ah
that could be S2,3,..
Also, when people tried E1, did they explore extreme as well?
my group didn't
but you can list things on the terminal in the extreme zones to find out what it's about
Yep
Cool beans
I played E1 atm yay
S1= Sayan 1 Scan
we saw 3 thou
I mean I only saw 2 so far
^
someone yesterday claimed they had 4
it does obey cap but not 100% on what that is. We had 5 alive and pulled alarm and still got 10-12 small enemy spawns... Im guessing it will cap at something like 8. Which is just gross
Most likely cap is around 12-15.
is it better to do C3 extreme then only doing C3 high
Yo anyone done E1 extrรชme yet?
it's unlimited
Can confirm
does the fog stay down in c3 ext after you finish the scans for the cluster generator?
A3 PE did it first try with a 4 stack
naked charger?
Owo?
i want to google that but my door is open
Lol
Does anyone recall.when the last sleeping hybrid was
Like I haven't seen a sleeping hybrid for so long untill r4a3
How hard does A3 get after the second hard bulkhead door? I'm going in solo blind and I think i should be able to get past it without a hitch in a few more attempts, but I'm worried I'm going to be in for one hell of a ride after that point
there are sleeping hybrids on B2
I'm not doing any of the optional objectives, just the hard bulkhead doors
the door to zone 30
Right after hard is just extract
oh thats it?
You just book it through
that will be super easy then
Doesn't matter if you have 1 person or 4, it's a set timer
So have fun mag dumping
last time i tried the class IV alarm i was able to kite everything pretty effectively, barely used any ammo at all just hopping around with the hammer
but very close to the end of the scan i ended up dying from fall damage
lol
Bruh
Yeah you better be saving ammo for it
It's a good endurance extraction
My sniper sentry did mad work during it
there were sleeping hybrids in r4b2 and r4c2
They never slept in r3 it was always behind a bloody door
yeah
There were sleeping hybrids in R3D1 right?
In that zone with 2 scouts right after the error alarm turned off
R3D1 had sleeping hybrids, absolutely.
when you do the C3 overload, is the Charger Alarm infinite for the whole game, or does it end when you kill the daddy??
if its a data core or a cargo
Forever
i dont want to do C3 );
it seems scary
all chargers ahhhh ahhhh...AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
idk I havent seen a whole lot of C3 yet but it seems like a steroided R2B4
This one combines that with chargers ig
I beat every level in R2 except for E1
I dont wanna see any spoilers this this rundown's E1 because I want information to be revealed the right way
Why are you in spoiler chat then
^
Hey on r4b3 after terminal in 366 zone endless alarm with hybrids?
||after the command - DEACTIVATE _FILTERS_S65T ?||
no
So this is just a wave with a bunch of guys yes ?
Heh
goodluck
I am mixed
A1 S1 scan
yes
On one side they are cool but they are also just standing still and periodically shooting for a couple of minutes
Ye I thought it was gonna be a scan that moved as you were scanning in it judging by the transmission thing at the beginning
Glitch scans
But nah it was just referring to how the percentage goes down
I thought the glitch scans were the ones that have a timer and then when the timer runs out the scan moves somewhere else
Those are timed
Timed scans
Well one of the two versions
One moved the other had a locked out phase
The glitch moved and was a spicy 1 scan
Wait there is timed scans?
A friend said there is
I'm asking for a picture
I swear to god
Bruh
PLEASE NO!
There are not
I'm tired of shadows
Not yet
but shadow chargers na man im out
shadow shooters and hybirds its ok
Shadow dauda when
but chargers na man i dont want to suffer that much
I saw that
Kenny finally did it
i think it means the constant spawning tanks
yes
because the fog slowly falls down
ask @obtuse surge
he done the whole thing on high
has the audio log from E1 been posted somewhere?
Idk. Itโs spicy tho
yeh
I assume you have a recording
R5 teaser possibly 
Id just post it in lore. I havenโt seen anything there
it's in kennys vod
Where do you find the audio log
it's in deep fog in one of the zones after the high bulkhead
it's pretty obvious because it's one of those terminals that makes noise
Heh

Until you turn on a gen
yes
part 3?
death?
lol. Doubt it
Prob heard them and ran. I feel heโs going to either have missions tied to him or tied to the progression system. Or both
R5 Schafer optional objectives
in e1, what are we supposed to do for the first rooms?
i cant find the bulkhead key anywhere
Schafer is too fast each level
Lol. Iโve only played it once or twice. Donโt care nuff
Nah. We are catching up
For sure
we need to do DISABLE_LIFE_SUPPORT for every zone 
the bulkhead key is behind a lockdown door
you don't need any bulkhead keys to complete the first part of your objective
so the generators are in the first zone?
i think it still abides by the global enemy cap
so at one point it would probably stop
but it's pretty high and that's likely not the strat
got it
50 tanks. Kek
So anyone got the E1 audiolog
Snatcher confirmed for R5!?!?!?!??!
I swear
Sorry neko
I hate them
It really seems like they will get added at this point
Snatchers confirmed (eventually)
Why do you hate the snatchers
Any enemy that you can not deal with by yourself is bad design
In which case the snatcher is commonly thought to grab you then you are unable to do anything until your team assists you
it's not even in the game, how would you know that
commonly thought
The name
besides even if so, it could be up to the player's skill to never get caught by the thing
In which case I completely disagree with the enemy
you've never heard of left 4 dead?
you know how it has the special enemies that you can't do shit about when caught?
Yeah
mutators are like mods/modes, one of them is a mutator where you play alone against only those enemies
and there's some pretty hype gameplay there
This is a team work based game, therefore this is seems like a stupid reason to call an enemy "bad"
i do think they really should have team scans progression stop being affected by team size
And teamwork is all well and good. But having stuff only possible with a team is not
Ie Iโm talking smaller teams/ solo
Snatcher will add a new challenge to solo play
The devs are not going to cater to solo players
been discussed many times punishing/rewarding undermanned teams is not a point for consideration
Also bad team mates will make them cancerous
that is a diff story
although it says it's a team game, not a 4 player game, would be really nice to see something for duos
The devs are not going to cater to solo players
@fluid pelican no. But itโs been said that it will remain possible. Having an enemy that you cannot deal with yourself.... kinda breaks that
hypothetical scenario, pretty pointless arguing
let's come back here when it happens
but the team scansss
When they say this, they mean not doing something where you need to be 2 places at once, but stuff like E1 is not possible solo
already happening
they will prob make snatcher able to be dealt with soloo
just more difficult or annoying
Might be able to doge their grab
When You have 0hp
Be able to shoot it while you are grabbed
But have the risk of other enemies yeeting you while grabbed by it
Cool. Iโd be perfectly fine with that
maybe something like dead by daylight
cant u get off those hooks?
idk i played like once
yea struggle or something
Iโve mentioned that in call before
qeqeqeqeqeqe
If shooting is allowed you'd just have dead space tentacle
Ya
Yep
Shoot a yellow spot
Or whatever itโs called in HL
Pop it
Who would you kill this
inb4 snatcher cult, a protected species
B4

GTFO Bestiary when?
^
What came first the mother or baby sleeper
Daddy striker
What are the new terminal commands for optional objective
how are you all feeling about the hel revolver?
Spicy pistol
DMR but better has pierce
that's what has me upset with it
UsE DmR ThEn
if it could net the oneshots
I still need more play time with Hel rev
Burst pistol but it has double the recoil of the MG
Oh god
MP with 32 round mags. Bout double damage. About half the ammo. higher vertical recoil but absolutely shreds stuff at close range
I mean that would give it a different role from autopistol
So
Oh god
No. No more BCs
Burst pistol could be MK2
Burst sniper would be MK4
MK3 would be burst CS
||And you can't cancel bursts anymore, so git fuked kid and youre ammo efficiency||
I was messing around with the burst cannon after the update, didn't it used to have pretty big recoil
Now it has like none
Recoil hasent changed
I'm just crazy then
Yes
What bulk heads are in A3 B3 C3 and E1?
Granted who uses it at that range
Imo its more useful then current sniper if you need to shoot a scout far away for some reason but that is just my opinion
Bullpup was an okay gun, the reload time was too much for what it did tho
Wow
I mean yeah
I run a gun that canโt hurt teammates
Riotgun goes brr
No. Thatโs my melee

Lol. A group in E1 was running them and when I joined literally said nobody can run it except me
I was like. F
But itโs such a god gun for my playstyle
Yeah if your suitational awareness is good its an amazing gun
Are there any new audio logs. Ik the E1 log
Well with me. Iโm super shot particular
So I can use base ammo and stagger every scan no problem
At least I knew a guy going into that run. But usually pubs should run auto
e1 solo when
Looking into it. Idk if I feel like it tho
I mean. Weโve already come up with a strat
whats the strat?
gib strat
also is the game a little buggy?
im noticing i cant cancel my charge
with right click
unless im tripping
pls im stuck on the class 6 hold solo. its 140second each 
@robust harbor Take a look in #known-issues
why am i not surprised to come here and find neko being elitist lmfao 
So uh when do we learn what's in E1 extreme
||Tanks, a lot of em||
Objective I mean
Ah
so there is no new enemy in E1, just ||dropping fogs and a fuckton of tanks||
Well there might be in extreme
the first tank spawn was an epic battle
My reasoning is in B3 intercepted data it says that the scan is going backwards referring to the S1 scan but that's only found in overload
So what's to say this unidentified motile biomass isn't in E1 extreme
it's tanks clustered up
Giant Tank
no
Wdym
Giant tank is spoopy
E1 extreme is ||a reactor||
Are you kidding me
get there and find out

An E tier ||reactor||?? I would imagine that is pretty hard
||How many pw||
How many reactor waves
tank waves and reactor
100
But I'm assuming you'd do E1 extreme after finishing the high objective right?
Similar to D1
You can open it up after putting in the cells
oh
then you do main after
Well Main is already 90% at that point
Debatable
sqore
Chees
why won't we try tank kill speedrun
Easy do C1, kills tank in 1 second
Bruh you can decimate it with burst cannon
Haha E1 ending hahahaha :- ))))))))))))))))))))))))
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa
3 hours gone :- )
What is at the end
I heard there was a ||giant mother|| but idk completely
They will that is a pretty big thing
Please tell
no :- )
:- (
do u really want me to DM u?
Are you sure you want to be spoiled
It made D2PE look like a joke
Well... I won't even be able to play E1 because y'know
Because why? :- (
No mic go brr
Ye I can imagine it would be hard to find people willing to play an E tier with a no mic in pubs
It'll be fun asking like: ๐๐ ๐ณ May I join your E1 game?
you just need tank killing skills and hacking skills for E1 imo
cause hack locks are quite common
No, We NeEd CoMmUnIcAtIoN
I vent about it sometimes @ Sev, but its fine for the most part




