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#gtfo-spoiler-chat
glacial crescent
placid oyster
too bad i cant play it on launch, but 5-6 hours later
lyric narwhal
the little crab dudes
light totem
same
lyric narwhal
theyre so silly
fickle rivet
dead babys ๐
wet zealot
The little dudes move so fast lol
merry blaze
#baby sleepers
nocturne flax
||BABY SCHLEEPERS||
rain light
||Spoiler marked text||
light totem
SCHLEEPERS???
placid oyster
schlรถรถpers
glass sierra
shleepers
atomic escarp
Anyone got the footage? I want to see it again.
light totem
rewind
terse relic
It's on ign channel
lucid moon
lyric narwhal
schrikerz and schuturz?
placid oyster
balmy vale
||is the syringe the new consumable type or item?||
devout river
It seems like it
placid oyster
consumable, and you dont have to mark the text as spoiler
atomic escarp
Thanks man
balmy vale
kk
terse relic
When was the syringe?
placid oyster
we are already in the SPOILER chat xD
atomic escarp
oh lawd
terse relic
Think I missed it
balmy vale
true
atomic escarp
so this whole rundown will be an escort mission
balmy vale
but there were different types
light totem
noooo
atomic escarp
soloing just got a lot harder ๐
light totem
sushi noo
balmy vale
makes me think it is a obj item
modest pine
the lil monsters look jank
placid oyster
if it takes up a consumable spot it would already make things a bit harder
balmy vale
true
placid oyster
but then again, usually objective items are carried just like that
balmy vale
maybe a lesser obj item
merry blaze
Boss fight?
atomic escarp
i wonder how the little monsters will work with the enemy spawn limit
merry blaze
Like d2 raid mechanics
balmy vale
did we see any new gadgets?
viral mantle
nutty
light totem
idk maybe they cound as 1/2 enemies
atomic escarp
no new gadgets, but shotgun sentry confirmed to not be gone
which is the most hype
cant survive without my shotty sentry
light totem
for now...
balmy vale
true
man, a flamethrower gadget for this would be nice
to like deal with the bebe sloopers
atomic escarp
flamethrower turret when
light totem
i dont think its ever comin
balmy vale
how come?
hexed vapor
@atomic escarp Titans already have a higher value than regular sleepers, so the little guys will probably be an even smaller unit.
lyric narwhal
so we dont know c1 or a2
balmy vale
wait @atomic escarp where did u find that info?
fickle rivet
he is the warden ofc he knows
balmy vale
oh gotchu
atomic escarp
I wonder how the difficulty will be
glacial crescent
Now the real question is, who wants to join me in completing R3
atomic escarp
and if any of the major exploits have been fixed
fickle rivet
tuned to the max hopfully
wet zealot
Should scale up pretty fast then
lyric narwhal
just as long as the levels arent 2 hours long im all for the maximum difficulty
atomic escarp
e1 was so punishing because the second half was where everything counted
but you had to trudge through usually an hour of the first half
wet zealot
So DMR is gone or changed the name to Rifle?
atomic escarp
just to try it
balmy vale
wait, is the machine gun going to be replaced with the burst cannon?
cuz it felt like the machine gun
atomic escarp
we dont know whats kept yet
lyric narwhal
dmr and rifle are much different
atomic escarp
Bruh, the Rifle looks the the DMR just changed a little.
wet zealot
It really does
light totem
Thats couse it is
balmy vale
is the rifle the bullpup thing we saw a while ago?
lyric narwhal
the scope is completely different the ammo capacity is completely different so is the handling
light totem
its like the first and second MG, different but same model
wet zealot
Maybe we have the option to do single shot and fully auto with the rifle?
balmy vale
ooh that would be nice
wet zealot
Because Carbine is burst
lyric narwhal
ew
fickle rivet
is the baby 1 shot in melee gavels only?
lyric narwhal
arent they the same?
placid oyster
maybe we just "unlock" it in B2, and then carry the unlocked HSU to the extractor, where experiments can be done or sth
atomic escarp
I am so excited lads!
fickle rivet
noice
devout river
Yes very hype
placid oyster
That's it, i'm getting me Mallet!
glacial crescent
Thats it im getting me Mallet! Mallet Gang
placid oyster
MALLET GANG
light totem
gavel gang
atomic escarp
Nice troll warden ;)
dim wagon
fickle rivet
confirmed spoiler warden is gavel gang
placid oyster
devout river
im gavel gang
fickle rivet
yeh ๐
devout river
Well idk its just the first one I picked and I never bothered to change
fickle rivet
warden is the maul useless now then since gavel is master race
vital wharf
gavel gang? someone say gavel gang?
glass sierra
wdym
vital wharf
||shadow chomk||
glass sierra
laptop
vital wharf
cash register
hexed vapor
This rundown might have a huge number of new or modified weapons.
glass sierra
just might
fickle rivet
praying for customizing weapons soon though
hexed vapor
Main:
Rifle
Bullpup rifle
Carbine
Special:
Burst cannon
Gauss gun
Gauss rifle
dim wagon
pinging on my new IPad
fickle rivet
are the chargers back?
unreal meadow
praying for customizing weapons soon though
@fickle rivet I don't know I like the idea of having to handle different weapons every new rundown.
vital wharf
no showing in the trailer
fickle rivet
as in being able to change the sights on the guns (pardon the spelling)
yeh better get to sending them poor helpless prisoners into the lab soon
craggy flame
As long as they dont put in loot boxes or other shady microtransaction practices I wouldnt mind paying stuff for cosmetic packs
atomic escarp
GTFO steam marketplace when
fickle rivet
yeh soon not to be able to have them in the uk so would be a shame
balmy vale
they said they wouldnt be doing that, hopefully that stays true
like micro transactions for getting p2w items
fickle rivet
na not p2w just cosmetic stuff
balmy vale
damn, imagine having a gunsmith option for the weapons
fickle rivet
be dope
balmy vale
it really would be
midnight dagger
past pelican
No.
terse relic
Who all would pay extra for red glowsticks?
fickle rivet
here
mossy yoke
Also, hello devs. I know you're reading this.
@atomic escarp hi
devout river
why
balmy vale
what is that
terse relic
The title is pretty self explanatory
fickle rivet
adorable
twilit warren
to Asia to wreak the workers
balmy vale
oH
devout river
Water monsters confirmed!?!?!?!?!?(not clickbait) (gone wrong)
atomic escarp
@atomic escarp hi
@mossy yoke
u 2
hexed vapor
R2A1 has a key in a zone with no required alarm.
R1A1 didn't have diverging paths though, it was a straight shot all the way excluding areas within zones.
I think they'll be picking between the styles to decide which they prefer.
ebon slate
hey can i quickly address the "part 1" in "rundown 3: Vessel, part 1"
Part 1.... guys this is part 1 of what?
and of how many parts
hexed vapor
It seems like you do something to the neonate in part 1
so there's probably going to be things we do to the neonate in different parts.
ebon slate
the babies come in at part 2
and the "boss" in D1 is labelled as part 3
so i guess that makes sense
hexed vapor
I'm waiting for the channel to actually upload it so I can check the level names PepeHands
ebon slate
oh fuck you are right
ebon slate
i wanna post the picture here
mortal granite
R3D1
it's HSU activator
and that's all
I KNEW IT
new gun
primary
"RIFLE"
hexed vapor
Burst cannon is not the burst rifle
night jasper
i see many people saying in the new video's comment that its like the killing floor and l4d and i think that the video is just showing the gunplay part of the game not the actual stealth part and those who buy it for the run and gun are going to be disappointed :((
hexed vapor
It's completely different.
ebon slate
also the original trailer for GTFO showed off more action then stealth and made it "seem" like a run and gun
so it's not the first time people whom are interested in GTFO because it looks like a run and gun game are gonna be disappointed
night jasper
also can somebody tell me that whats that thing you have to pickup at the e1? i never passed that big fog room and im officially gave up i just want to know that is it something important story wise?
yeah that
next field
yo guys lmao chill u will see everything tomorrow
night jasper
aight imma try to finish it
unkempt canopy
I think that they have to make a Better trailer more focused on stealth
A gameplay trailer with people talking, Just to understand Better how steat and squad group works
devout river
bro are u getting all this from that one trailer?
ashen flicker
I'm sure we'll see what's going on tomorrow when R3 releases. ๐ I'm excited to play it.
devout river
Same
mint gazelle
what is the killing floor?
ashen flicker
Killing Floor is an fps game.
glass sierra
thereโs a lot in those 5 minutes and 20 secs
devout river
Well tbh the trailer does show a lot of A1
I would not be able to find that much anyway though
ashen flicker
We've seen a lot of linear rundowns in the past. Maybe this one can be switched up a bit.
atomic escarp
I see everyone is so hyped up
ashen flicker
Sounds exciting! ๐
opal owl
Does anyone know about the gauss gun. From the ign video is seems to shoot like a shotgun. Is it a slug shotgun instead of pellets
Because that would make sense as a coilgun
ashen flicker
From what I've seen, it shoots one bullet at a time, like the video in Ludvig's Leaks.
opal owl
I hope so becuase i love the sniper
I hope they keep some of the guns from this rundown because they look good
ashen flicker
The guns from R2 were a blast. ๐ I liked the burst rifle, but the assault rifle was good for spray and pray.
devout river
I feel more motivated to beat this one because I want to find out what the really big dude at the end of the trailer is
opal owl
I manly used the smg and sniper
Me too this game fascinates me
Are their new gadgets
I saw the syringe
I feel he would be a later stage kinda guy
mortal granite
burst canon
15/46 100%
gonna be a new meme gun if it can't kill a thing
1 burst = 8%
opal owl
Jesus
mossy yoke
trust me, burst cannon does damage.
mortal granite
oh
glass sierra
Revolver best secondary
opal owl
That would be like 12 shots
mortal granite
then i'm gonna switch from shotgun to Burst then
opal owl
It is a primary i believe
mortal granite
Burst canon Secondary
Fire 5 burst shot
new primary: Rifle
The same as DMR
but double the magazine
opal owl
I hope they keep both could be like dmr with more damage and low mag and the rifle with lower damage but double mag
mortal granite
the rifle 2 shot normal striker
1 head
1 body
same as DMR
we didn't see any DMR action yet
opal owl
Cool, but could provide more weapon choices
mortal granite
so maybe adding penetrate to DMR
opal owl
I like the dmr personally but the zoom scope gets me killed
opal owl
A flip sight would help me personally the ability to got medium to short range quickly
atomic escarp
at what time in the video was gtfo featured?
atomic escarp
ok thanks
sly gale
new enemy is 5:15 in
atomic escarp
yeah dude
i'm a bh
xD
I wanted to see what they teased
Hyped about d1 and the big monster at the end
atomic escarp
I want to sleep, so I can wake up in the morning to test the new shit out but I can't :(
glacial crescent
F
mellow creek
looks like
r4 will be vessel part 2
and remember the prealpha trailer w the tentacle monster at the end
the places looks like its in the labs
mellow creek
ohhhhhhh
drifting ermine
Im just downloading this ,but Im glad to see so many people pumped about this game, it gives me hope that its as brutal as I hope.
atomic escarp
@drifting ermine Oh it is. Especially E1, that level alone has shaken IP the community. But it's ashame you will not be able to play this rundown, it was a really good one. You will be onto R3 now.
drifting ermine
Ah, yeah ,I guess its ending in what, like an hour?
What made it so great? I mean, I've not got to boot it up yet so I'm craving something and I have no clue exactly what it is haha
terse relic
Getting your ass beat by licky bois. 10/10
ashen flicker
R3 comes out in ~8 hours. ๐ You'd have time to mess around in it. @drifting ermine
terse relic
Yeah, if you can find a decent team for the next 8 hours I'd reckon you can get up to the D levels
terse relic
@drifting ermine it's like l4d, harder, with stealth, higher variety of tools and weapons and mechanics
craggy summit
anyone notice the rifle?
terse relic
Boi Oz is typing a long ass message.
atomic escarp
@drifting ermine Again, 8 hours left which is nothing for this rundown. So I should probably tell you them. This is spoiler so don't read if you don't want. To know
||When you first start, you get fucked by something call "Surge scans". This requires your while team to be in it which can fuck you up if you're not coordinated enough. Then you got the invisible big guys who also love to fuck you up too. They hit and run faster than the regular big ones. And if you have a team wh doesn't know what to do, you are good as dead. The. There's the 595 door, which is very hard to do and legit, the RNG can fuck you really hard like really hard. Which then Leeds onto the 4th, it's pretty RNG heavy. If the RNG isn't good, it just made the whole run more difficult||
There's more mechanics but best of luck. I highly suggest you play it for the first time with new players. It's so fun learning from scratch, I really miss the days I was shit. Since R3 is coming tomorrow, you got lucky as in you get to play with even more mechanics and weapons that some of us Vets already have. But don't be discouraged, failure is what makes you a better player in this game. Getting carried when you're new is boring and you don't learn shit, that's why I recommend people not get carried. Learning the game is the most fun part in this game imo.
@terse relic You sir was right.
terse relic
I love your effort for the new guy.
Message was accurate and more concise than I was expecting.
drifting ermine
Haha yeah @atomic escarp ,Thanks a ton!
Im so fucking excited now lol ,Ima log on now ,and yeah I was planning on playing with new people ,honestly ,Ive always loved brutal games that make you suffer (I guess that says a lot about me though haha) so Im going in with complete newbs and Ima get wrecked lol I appreciate the tips though ,Ill probably chat you up later after Ive got a run or two... or fifteen in ๐
Lets go see what its about.
wraith jackal
I told ya, it was those baby things from dead space 3. I knew it, I just knew
queen nymph
@drifting ermine welcome and hopefully youโll find the game worth to play
atomic escarp
@drifting ermine Oh since you're new and you have not Known how the game works yet. Don't worry, you'll get fucked a bunch. It's normal for new players do not do he A tier in first few tries. If it's with a complete new team, expect it to take some time. But you will most certainly fall in love with it if you love challenging games. It took me 6 hours to do the first A level in R1 and when I did D1 in that rundown, I could complete R1 in under 50 minutes. So you'll get better each level. Good luck!
light totem
Btw the Bullpup rifle we are all interested in is the carbine
terse relic
@wraith jackal The flood from Halo wants to know your location
drifting ermine
Baby things from ds3? Sounds scary!
@queen nymph Thanks! Im waiting on a group now xD
@atomic escarp Im not sure what all the r1 d69 stuff is ,Im guessing the levels/maps?
And I love a challenge lol Im the idiot that picks up the hardest game he can find ,bumps it to the hardest dificulty and grinds until the end, so Im pretty pumped to get in and do stuff! Everyone is saying that this game is basically the savior of the genre ,so my excitement is at peak! The no match making is kinda rough ,but with this many people on discord surely its typically not hard to find a game?
I heard that all the maps change occasionally? So the maps that are here now will be different and unplayable? That will keep things interesting.
terse relic
Yeah after 8 hours these 10 maps will be unplayable and be replaced by 7 new maps.
atomic escarp
people ask for the old rundowns to come back but unless you bring the whole game state back
its kinda bad
since they're built around certain game updates/balance
hexed vapor
Most of the people advertising E1 in the LFG are doomed to failure.
Especially the cheese groups.
atomic escarp
anyone have a list of the new guns
so far ive seen gauss gun, gauss rifle, rifle, burst cannon, carbine
hexed vapor
^^ ^ Those are the 6
(that we've seen, but that's probably it)
New consumable as well, there's a syringe in the trailer
Nothing really known about it.
Ooh
mellow creek
ooooooooo
ocean lance
@atomic escarp the shadow giants dont always run faster then normal depends on which type they are ik the shooter type runs idk about hybrid
hexed vapor
What about the ones in the big striker position?
ocean lance
they walk normally
and prob why not them many people have completed E1 is the amount of chessing people
atomic escarp
They've always 100% ran faster than normal giants. The shadows giants for sure, always run faster. I've never, ever had expedition where shadow giants has been slow. I've even had to kite them all on my own several times, they feel faster and also hit faster than regular from my experience.
wraith jackal
@light totem NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
mortal granite
and same stagger animation
ocean lance
its honstly fun having the regular shadow giant because u can just melee kill them compared to the shooter type
atomic escarp
@ocean lance That I agree with. Some have hit faster than others but in terms of speed, I've seen them all run every single time. I've never had them walk regular giant speed before.
ocean lance
u just get unlucky then the giant strikers do have a sprint but they most of the time dont use it
and its no where near as fast as the shooter type
rare crane
what shooter type?
ocean lance
the shadow giants
timid gale
so titan shooter
rare crane
yeah wym by shooter type?
timid gale
there arent any shadow titan shooters
ocean lance
they can be a shooter type which means alot of their actions are similar to the shooter
mortal granite
yet
rare crane
what are you on about
glass sierra
some bullshit about different ai
ocean lance
so they run constantly and attack faster, ect
rare crane
most likely
glass sierra
For the shadows
rare crane
they all do
atomic escarp
What's happening? I'm being confused.
rare crane
they have have an upright, or naruto running state
non of them are functionally different in any way
ocean lance
ur being confused by people that dont know the enemys that well
rare crane
only difference is where they place their head during a tongue
ocean lance
xD
rare crane
You very clearly bought into some bs my guy
hexed vapor
@rare crane Shadow titans can be in four different positions, two of which are used by shooters.
timid gale
shadow titan strikers have same stats as normal titan strikers, except shadow titan strikers just run faster
ocean lance
no
rare crane
yeah ik that
hexed vapor
Nothing really defines the positions other than that all 6 are used by the basic striker and shooter enemies.
rare crane
but they arent functionally different
ocean lance
they do function differently
hexed vapor
They do walk differently, it's just less clear how this impacts their speed.
glass sierra
ok thatโs how animations work
rare crane
it impacts nothing
ocean lance
nah shooter type: hits faster and is contstanly running
glass sierra
If you have proof from a dev, weโll shut up.
ocean lance
weather i do or dont doesnt change how they work
glass sierra
otherwise, Iโm pretty sure itโs just bs
timid gale
some shadow titan strikers have same posture as titan shooters however that doesnt really change how they act, deal damage, receive damage, run, stagger...
ocean lance
yes it does
timid gale
but it doesnt
ocean lance
not dmg
glass sierra
no it doesnโt
ocean lance
but speed, attack speed, dmg animation all change
timid gale
attack speed is normal
rare crane
for base speed it doesnt change anything either
timid gale
shadow titan strikers and normal titan strikers have the exact same stats just like shadow strikers and normal strikers except shadows just run faster and thats it.
atomic escarp
They run the same speed. Trust me, I've had to kite them with Bio serveral times across the whole map. Not once has one walked regualer speed.
hexed vapor
Some of Zaero's E1 solo strats are influenced by the idea that naruto runners (strikers in their high position) move faster.
rare crane
imagine making some Bs rumor that ppl bought in
timid gale
whoops, shadow strikers and normal strikers have same speed.
timid gale
just not shadow titan strikers
imagine tryin to talk bs to peeps who've dug deep and hard on figuring shit out on this game.
hexed vapor
And this appears to be true in his clips which show the Naruto runners keep up to him better and move forward first.
rare crane
i meant
imagine being white the player
the guy here named white
who made the hacking tool rumour for fun then had it spread like wildfire
timid gale
hacking tool + crouch spam on scans = 1.3x faster scan rate
rare crane
^ yeah totally
timid gale
lol
ocean lance
i mean if u guys have dug deep then u would know not all invis giants run very fast
rare crane
yeah they all run fast
ocean lance
so like i said im tlaking to a bunch of idiots
timid gale
ive said that numerous times
rare crane
just some choose to speed up when they're x amount of rooms away
timid gale
scroll up and read dumbass
rare crane
and others dont
cause thats how enemy ai works
they start running faster once you're a room or two away
atomic escarp
i mean if u guys have dug deep then u would know not all invis giants run very fast
@ocean lance
So now you are backtracking? Nice way to embarrass yourself there. You say one thing, then say a contradictory sentence. Make up your mind already.
rare crane
but the thing is some will not run faster and others will
ocean lance
i never said they all ran fast
timid gale
@hexed vapor updated stats, only a tad but it doesnt include hybirb head crits
ocean lance
i said some run/walk at normal giant speed then the shooter type runs
atomic escarp
I have lost hope in humanity ๐คฆ
rare crane
so in projects clip you either A. missed all of the other shadow titans running faster
or
B. Coincidentally the Ai that chose to speed up were bent runners
timid gale
or backside multiplier nerfs for sentries
rare crane
but regardless
if they choose to speed up or not
they still move at the same speed
stance doesnt matter
timid gale
@rare crane i would retest just to make sure, absolute 500% more sure it it were 9pm and not almost 2am just to confirm again. ๐
rare crane
an upright sleeper that chooses to move faster will be as fast as a hunched over sleeper that chooses to move faster
ocean lance
they really dont move at the same speed but ok
atomic escarp
Why would they even move at different speeds ๐คฃ
That's just adding more unnecessary programming involved for that to work. P
hexed vapor
@timid gale Thanks. The stats will always be important for verifying the public numbers.
rare crane
at least we can all agree on the fact that when an enemy targets a player more than 1 room away they speed up
rare crane
most noticeable on big strikers
hexed vapor
Pretty sure only titan strikers do that.
timid gale
but itll be a bit more balanced out to spice up the rather repetitive gameplay.
and not be a total fuckover
rare crane
no ive seen basic shooters even basic strikers do it
one time i was playing c1 and i aggroed a room and for some reason a shooter targeted my teammates in another zone
and
it managed to run through 3 rooms in 7 seconds
atomic escarp
If I had to Believe someone. I would believe hacket.
rare crane
and im talking bout those long rooms
it just
nyoomed
faster than they normally scurry away
hexed vapor
Hmmm
rare crane
i had to shoot it down cause it was so fast
hexed vapor
It's probably a very long distance they do it at, then.
Titan strikers do it whenever they're not in the room their target is in.
plucky summit
what was that horde at the end of the trailer , it looks amazing to deal with.
hexed vapor
They appear to move very fast, and they probably have little to no health.
plucky summit
their head is bigger than their body .
glass sierra
Yeah, just ask ludvig why argue
plucky summit
i am glad we have a enemy that will either make you scared shitless or laugh to the point you cant aim
sullen sigil
Can someone fill me in on the important thing I missed in not doing the d and e levels? Spoil it all pls
plucky summit
in D1 you get cancer , D2 most fun level . E1 you get the objective for R3A1 + a alot of suffering
plucky summit
yes
sullen sigil
Huh.
velvet flower
At the middle of e1
hexed vapor
D1 is a stealth-heavy level that forces you to go up against some hard alarms right away and then stealth through several zones with multiple enemies, including titans and scouts, in order to collect cells for the central generator cluster. You need to do 1-2 zones in heavy infection fog without a turbine (just fog repellers), but it's a very good stealth-oriented level otherwise.
D2 is a reactor level that requires you get codes from terminal logs found throughout the map. Opening zones unlocked by the reactor eventually means you have three paths enemies can come from, including a large number of titans and hybrids. The terminal logs are collected for the code segments, which are timed, so you need to stealth or alert very quickly. These pit you against normal rooms, titan zones, scouts, and zones full of fog and spitters. You'll rely on a lot of the supplies you find on the side paths to actually manage the waves as well.
velvet flower
It's prob the only level you can completely ignore your melee.
wraith jackal
Did anybody see that boss like thing at the end of the trailer???
Hiw do u know it's in that specific level?@atomic escarp
Oh
U mean in rundown 3?
hexed vapor
E1 requires you go through supply rooms with shadow titans to find cells and loot. You'll need to do some surge alarms to progress (each has three team scans and constantly spawns only strikers to hit the mob cap), and each of the main zones you pass through has two scouts (including one in heavy fog). After you get the neonate, that zone also will have a key which is required to reach extraction. Leading to extraction is three zones, two of which have many areas and some degree of fog. There are chances for scouts, lots of sleeping enemies, and all doors require cells. You'll need to either find those cells in the zones or carry them with you. Two of the doors have surge alarms on them. Oh, and opening the exit zones starts a class error alarm, which is essentially C2 since it never ends. The waves get larger the longer you take, starting at 3 and ending at 8.
sullen sigil
Sounds horrible
hexed vapor
E1 was not a good level
atomic escarp
Honestly. It would have fixed most of the problems if they done it reverse if we did the end part first and then carries on like normal. So much better.
lost linden
'so like i said im tlaking to a bunch of idiots'
Beautifull :')
atomic escarp
This is why I love you man, no homo
hexed vapor
They should have either:
a.) Opted for more down-time between waves but make them much larger and much scarier when you take too long. This would make stealth more of an option as a solution to bad RNG.
b.) Deleted zone 593 and just had extraction right after 594 (with the surge moved to this zone), then make it so that a scout always spawns in 594 but none can spawn in 593. This would have removed a lot of the needless clutter in 593, made the difficulty less variable, and cut out a lot of the difficulty that made it feel like you were wasting your time during the 1-2 hour build-up. 593 is almost all of E1's major balance issues in one place.
lost linden
They should've had less rng bullshit
glacial crescent
Cant complain when E1's getting deleted in a few hours :tapsforehead:
lost linden
And seeing it as a waste is a frame of mind. I dont see it as a waste. I see it as a way to improve
hexed vapor
It is their first E tier expedition.
atomic escarp
Yes, the Fucking RNG just makes it even more harder when you get unlucky. I really enjoyed it just not the fucking tedious grinding.
hexed vapor
I also tend to think it's actually a bit too hard for the E tier. If they really plan to go lower to, say, F, then it feels like E1 is better built as a max difficulty expedition. A lot of the leadup feels "fair" while the error section itself feels very unfair.
I wouldn't mind seeing 593 with fairly bad RNG on an F1.
atomic escarp
Nah, the difficulty is fine for the E tier. It's just they need to iron out the issues for it. It's perfect for us suckers who want a hard challenging expirencece. I'm glad I can go back and say that I've done it and be proud.
hexed vapor
It's the F tier.
Naw, I think some of the really bad RNG on 595 and 593 is overtuned.
velvet flower
593 is heavy RNG based, and buggy.
hexed vapor
Like, if you get 20 enemies in two to three rooms, the level gets exceptionally difficult.
velvet flower
595 can have terrible spawns but at least not that buggy.
hexed vapor
If scouts are in those rooms, it's over.
atomic escarp
Yes, the RNG is what makes it a bad level. They had the difficulty spot on, it's just the E1 suffers a lot from how it's been executed. Like RNG, time, e.t.c all the issues about the community complained about. If they ironed all of that out, E1 would be very good. Also, E1 in reverse would just be a much better choice.
velvet flower
Reverse the route is probably too generous.
atomic escarp
Nah, if they kept it like that with the same difficulty it would be much more fair and less time consuming. If they wanted to split it midway, they could do the part halfway in the expedition. I would not have an issue with that.
The problem with it is doing like E1 50 attempts. A lot of time goes into it. A little too much.
D2 was perfect in my opinion, it was a beautiful level done correctly.
velvet flower
You can say that again.
mellow creek
theres 3 new enermies ??
hexed vapor
2 that we've seen
mellow creek
oh
hexed vapor
The big crab thing and the little crab things.
mellow creek
yeah thought i saw soeone mention theres 3
lol
looks like silent hill one of the gods
the scarlett boss
hahaha
hexed vapor
The little guys remind me of the flood, actually.
Just swarming low-health enemies that you need to spray down.
hexed vapor
Interestingly, the trailer depictions of the two enemies makes them look like wave enemies.
So they're probably very aggressive.
(although we see the big one as a white dot on bio)
daring stirrup
ocean lance
in 4 hrs
plucky summit
in 4 hours. if you want to check then launch GTFO and the countdown timer is there in red
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terse relic
Could be self destructing as the flood as well, do x damage and then die, giving you the option between saving hp or ammo
plucky summit
what do you guys think of the burst cannon ?
atomic escarp
best part about this rundown, dot sights
atomic escarp
munitions called bullet
craggy summit
large bullet, small bullet
plucky summit
i think its good if you can control the recoil but if you cant its bad cause you will be wasting so much ammo with it just like the machinegun.
craggy summit
definitely a situational weapon
With such high recoil and limited ammo, its best for hordes, else its a waste
plucky summit
well i guess i gotta test it in A3 after 2 and half hours
plucky summit
you dont need to spoiler tag here btw
craggy summit
kiting is going to be hard with those running after you
plucky summit
i wont be able to aim cause i would be laughing way too much
craggy summit
their damage output would be the same as a mosquito bite, but 10+ of those and you have a problem
atomic escarp
their range should be smaller than their normal counterparts and do less damage but are faster
craggy summit
what I want to know about is that giant mess near the end of the video
royal hearth
After E1 If i get to punt some babys im all for it
atomic escarp
it looked like a large beetle for me
plucky summit
we might see it in D1
atomic escarp
ye
craggy summit
big boss boi
plucky summit
the babies seem to be in the B levels
craggy summit
probably, A's are just setup levels for B
royal hearth
Get to take out E1 aggresion on the little bastards
plucky summit
A1 is vessel part 1 and B1 is vessel part 2 , i thing we will see the babies in B1
i love the look of the new environment
royal hearth
The new doors look lit
royal hearth
how long till R3 drops?
plucky summit
2h 30 mins
craggy summit
gonna say it now though, carbine is gonna be the meta
plucky summit
yep
craggy summit
that thing seems to push a mad amount of damage per burst
plus it has around 400 ammo
royal hearth
It looks like it has no recoil too
craggy summit
pretty sure it would've been nerfed a little so it doesn't become op
but it will probably be one of the more efficient ones overall
royal hearth
Burst cannon looks bad
atomic escarp
the rifle though
plucky summit
i wonder what A2 is , cause i dont think we got any spoilers for it
atomic escarp
seems like its a replacement for DMR but less powerful
craggy summit
burst cannon might have some light penetration to justify it's use
would make some sense since it isn't very efficient looking right now
atomic escarp
will it replace the MG?
craggy summit
I hope not lmao
plucky summit
from the trailer it looks like the shotgun sentry will still be in the game
royal hearth
Shotgun sentry best sentry
queen storm
Hopefully they buffed the burst sentry
craggy summit
I mean they had the old machinegun in some R2 clips before release, so I wouldn't jump to that conclusion
atomic escarp
I really should have played the R1 version of the MG since that's the one I hated most cause of the recoil
plucky summit
the problem with the R1 machinegun wasnt the recoil for me it was the low mag ammo
atomic escarp
it does 2 shot kill to the heads on strikers IIRC
atomic escarp
it was better for single shots i think
craggy summit
I originally hated the R1 machinegun, but after getting used to it, it is pretty op
plucky summit
in R1C1 i used to use it for long range taping
craggy summit
that thing pops heads easier than most guns
atomic escarp
yes
craggy summit
recoil wasn't nuts either so it was manageable for me
plucky summit
in R2 i used it to 2 shot shooters
queen storm
Will the pistol still be in R3?
atomic escarp
Back then I was still getting used to the guns in GTFO since this game had the most recoil in any FPS I've played
queen storm
What FPS have you played? They donโt have that much recoil
plucky summit
i played some games that have more recoil than gtfo
atomic escarp
COD MF
queen storm
I donโt think COD has a lot of recoil
atomic escarp
ye
plucky summit
yeah COD weapons are lazers
atomic escarp
still though recoil in GTFO is much different from my experience
queen storm
Are the blobs seen around the lab related to the new enemy?
plucky summit
PUBG has a lot more recoil in some of its guns so it helped me learn how to control it by alot
probs
queen storm
CS:GO has a lot of recoil
plucky summit
i cant wait to see someone use the burst cannon like a laser
atomic escarp
I haven't played CS much so I didn't want to make that comparison
Rifle's scope is nice
just a green dot in the middle
glacial crescent
Let the countdown begin!
long cloak
ye
queen storm
How much time is left?
velvet flower
about 2 hours
wraith jackal
Burst canon eh, didnt get to see the guass rifle though I did see the guass gun
mossy jewel
the guass gun is the guass rifle they changed the name
terse relic
Are you sure about that, coz both seem to work differently in the leaks channel
wraith jackal
@terse relic agreed
mossy yoke
#patch-notes o.0
halcyon void
Shotgun
:PL: Reduced ammo capacity
:PL: Reduced magazine size
why u do this devs
jaunty tapir
so is combat better now?
atomic escarp
@terse relic gauss gun and gauss rifle are 2 separate weapons you are correct
wooden epoch
The sad part is that the Shotgun was already kind of poor, but this just makes it borderline worthless.
Unless the Combat's up to par, shotguns are basically out.
craggy flame
Hรคh? The pump shotty was one of the best weapons in R2
merry forum
What is an IIX syringe..
midnight turret
merry forum
The big dudes are so aggressive now..
topaz lance
anybody knows the use of syringe?
celest zealot
Revolver go shoot
atomic escarp
Ypu cant post stuff in here
indigo lantern
craggy flame
We all hate it. we had to do E1 for that xD
nocturne flax
FO REAL
mellow creek
ok a1 is really ez l0l
nocturne flax
||D1 the second level||
mellow creek
lmao
atomic escarp
The devs felt that the shotgun needed a good nerf due to many of things, it's all in the eyes of them and the feedback they got from R2. They have a lot of data they can use and go through to decide which guns needs nerfs/buffs.
smoky dove
I take it back, the nerf isn't crazy, but i don't think was necessary
atomic escarp
Nah, it was needed. You can be a one man army with it.
smoky dove
you auto heal 10%, that's not good lol
mellow creek
reloading speed is too long
u cant have 4 person with it for surge wave
i mean u can but.......
atomic escarp
How does everyone feel bout the Bullpup rn
@light totem powerful but you get punished during reloading
so somewhat balanced imo
it also eats through ammo so fast
chrome dagger
anyone tried out the sniper rifle after the buff?
rain heron
i couldnt play too much right now but i took a screenshot for some of the lore
light totem
Iโm likeing the Bullpup. It just is the reload
chrome dagger
haven't tried it yet but i'm liking the carbine
strange pond
all 3 new mains are pretty good imo
light totem
And burst cannon is good for the heavies
light totem
Do players have head and leg hit boxes yet?
I feel like the hits are different now
Yeah. Sadly
chrome dagger
i thought there was too much in a2
turbid cliff
A tier
is easy
Rong: surprised pikachu
pseudo oar
chrome dagger
I was just so used to getting raped in E1 so A tier felt too damn easy lol
chrome dagger
ok I found out the HEL Rifle is very quiet
it can kill the scout
and it didnt wake up all the sleepers in the room
chrome dagger
did it wake up the whole room?
chrome dagger
it didn't for us
chrome dagger
yeah
chrome dagger
uhh maybe 6
chrome dagger
it was in A2
muted oyster
^ this is correct lol
obtuse kernel
dint notice it
but i guess it kinda make sense since its the best thing you can bring
and those
but now i think you can pic up trap mines
zenith charm
so disappointed by A2, just a carbon copy of D1 but without the grind
just a lifeless husk
almost every room was stolen from other missions
Like it's good to reuse things, but in E1 it was done so incredibly intelligently - the copied rooms were deliberately in darkness, and lights were intentionally placed to cast shadows like the shadow giants
but there was nothing new in A2. Just "okay, we've already got this shit lets make some money off it"
the fact that there are only 2 B missions and 2 C/D missions, with there being 3 bland, boring A missions is really disapointing
zenith charm
in terms of difficulty?
zenith charm
A1 felt far easier than the previous A1, but I agree that A2 was a significant jump in difficulty
mellow creek
for veterans or seasonal
A is a breeze till c1
A to b*
yeah a1 is indeed easier
rain heron
so we have a silent weapon??
zenith charm
if you're talking about the hel guns, then no
in my game my mate somehow got a glitch and his shot didn't wake up sleepers when he killed the scout with the hel rifle
but it was not repeatable
chrome dagger
in my game my mate somehow got a glitch and his shot didn't wake up sleepers when he killed the scout with the hel rifle
@zenith charm Happened to me too
rain heron
for the few things i saw, i LOVE the environment
glacial crescent
Am stuck LFGing still T-T
How's everyone's opinion so far?
rain heron
a huge lab
devout river
Idk I find this environment kind of unsettling
chrome dagger
Yeah I would have liked new objectives
willow coral
every rundown won't have new objectives ๐
we're only 9, only got time for so much I'm afraid,
so sometimes, we just have to work with what we got, and try to be smart about it
smoky dove
If A2 is a big jump, A3 is another bigger jump
in difficulty
mostly cause you can't keep running
rain heron
any new enemy in tier a?
devout river
I dont think so
devout river
yea baby sleepers
rain heron
oh crap
zenith charm
idm reuse of objectives, I tend not to notice them - objectives tend to just be opening doors and clearing rooms - but I feel map design and mis en scene is so important and has so far been pretty devalued this rundown
rain heron
ok
rain heron
wait a sec they appear in tier a?
devout river
no
rain heron
oh
devout river
B tier is the first time they appear
rain heron
ok
willow coral
only a few % of the players got to see D/E tier last rundown, so making A tier maps that was close to them was a conscious decision ๐
rain heron
i saw a new enemy in steam trading cards
devout river
really??
rain heron
OH SHIT
devout river
Jeez
rain heron
the strikers you mean??
devout river
I mean thats cool
mellow creek
yea the meelee dudes
mellow creek
yea
chrome dagger
maybe they were rock climbers before they turned
devout river
Yea I did not play for long but even in just the first room in the lab I heard a lot of weird noises like screeching and like loud noises idk'
devout river
what?
rain heron
?
queen storm
Look at the D1 description
light totem
TF
rain heron
da fuq?
light totem
Schleeper bb
rain heron
it looks like something from dead space and warframe XD
light totem
Ye
rain heron
im kinda concerned about the dialogues in the host missions
how you managed to go to d1 so fast???
light totem
Ye. Speedrunners
trim holly
Quack
rain heron
holy...
trim holly
someone had Acced to D1 30 min after patch
rain heron
what a hardcores
trim holly
all i gotta say: its suspect
rain heron
what you mean?
trim holly
clearing 6 lvl in less than 1h
rain heron
maybe exploits?
queen storm
probably
rain heron
or glitches
queen storm
but the A levels are pretty easy
trim holly
its still less than 10 min per lvl
queen storm
then it's an exploit
rain heron
yeah
mellow creek
yea
rain heron
i wonder what does the warden want with the neonate
trim holly
read mission Summary
queen storm
when you click on a mission, there is a short summary
eager nimbus
anyone know what the IIX needles are for?
trim holly
when you select the Expedition
there is a short Summary
C1 implant something
then D1 have fun
atomic escarp
At least we get the timed missions out of the way on A3
Fuck doing that in a later level
the lag is too fucking real
rain heron
what you mean with timed missions?
trim holly
When you start Reactor you have timed wave
and between wave you have a timer before wave reset
rain heron
oh
trim holly
and during that time you have to get a password
light totem
R3E1 error timed mission obviously
trim holly
there is no E 1
light totem
Doesnโt mean anything yet. R3 just came out
atomic escarp
I cant deal with Timed mission mainly because every single fucking time I do them no matter who I play with lag spikes so much that I basically become a god and I cant be damaged for like full on 4 minutes
devout river
I have never gotten far enough to do one
rain heron
yeah
light totem
Ye
trim holly
Acces from R2E1 Etablished
rain heron
i saw it
devout river
Yea
trim holly
welp didnt finish E1
devout river
Yep big plot hole there
rain heron
but for now i was reading bits of the lore
trim holly
i managed to complete R1D1
light totem
Oof
trim holly
but my crew had less time in R2
light totem
Ah. E1 was best mission
trim holly
so we didnt have time to do R2D1 and R2E1
rain heron
in the labs you find pieces of lore in some screens
trim holly
D1 looked like a pain
devout river
Yea I had a lot of time in R2 too but most of it was solo play so I still did not get very far
rain heron
i know about the hel guns, bullpup and more.
light totem
Yeah
devout river
burst cannon is good apparently
light totem
Burst cannon
rain heron
tools are still the same
devout river
apparently it one shots big guys
rain heron
shotgun sentry got popular XD
devout river
It has been
light totem
Ehh. We have been two bursting them
It might be one. But havenโt tested it too much
rain heron
any change in behaviour of the sleepers? despite the wall related?
rain heron
got it
rain heron
seriously wallrunners is REALLY bad new
wraith pewter
Just played the first three missions, and oh god I love this update
Not only the new guns are extremely good, but the level design is just awesome
The environnements are much more varied and feel extremely real, and the scenery in the reactor level is ๐
Love the lab tileset too
queen storm
do you split up in one of the levels? It said something about it in the summary
atomic escarp
Oh god that'd be pretty sweet and annoying
rain heron
i cannot wait to play dudeee
light totem
Yeee
queen storm
That was so useful in A2
queen storm
Update steam
mortal granite
there is nothing
lavish fossil
Any ideas how to|| efficiently kill the "mothership" enemy?||
atomic escarp
Exit steam and re open it
lavish fossil
We barely survived that
mortal granite
@lavish fossil better spoiler tag it
atomic escarp
or restart your Pc
lavish fossil
This is spoiler chat
rain heron
||mothership???||
mellow creek
sniper does 96damage
mortal granite
lol
devout river
I think they mean the enemy that spawns the babies
rugged merlin
What do the syringes change when i take them?
lavish fossil
I always wanted to call it Broodmother ๐
rain heron
wat??? a spawner???
devout river
But you cant kill it there I dont think
rain heron
oh crapp
devout river
If you saw the trailer u know
lavish fossil
It will freak you out Quilmeshou
safe plume
RandomKenny is currently facing it
rain heron
which trailer?
lavish fossil
It is fucking creepy
safe plume
if ur interested to see
devout river
the r3 trailer
atomic escarp
@devout river You can. aim and kill the flaps on it.
rain heron
where is that trailer?
devout river
on ign's channel
and on the gtfo channel
well its the 10 chambers collective channel
mossy yoke
@rain heron trailer is linked in #game-announcements like 3 messages up in there
rugged merlin
Can anyone tell me what happens when i take one of the 2 syringes?