gtfo-spoiler-chat

[dense dove]

they based off stats

[ebon slate]

I know i'm doing a bit

[dense dove]

ahh, got ya

[turbid cliff]

i like the "restart 300 times, each try lasts 3 minutes" kind of difficulty than "restart 4 times, each try lasts 2 hours" kind

[dense dove]

^

that's why I enjoyed d2 a bit more than d1

[turbid cliff]

it's so easy to get wrecked by random bs and lose a whole day

[dense dove]

yup

[ebon slate]

people who were again the vocal minority were like "unpatch the C levels REEE"

[dense dove]

they are mad because other people can play and enjoy the game

the game is not meant for just you

[woven ice]

I don’t like a short duration run and gun game. Not what I signed up for GTFO

[dense dove]

it's not run and gun

d2 is well designed

relatively short duration but if you fail its not as bad

[woven ice]

3 mins level? Come on bro 😂

[turbid cliff]

ever heard of a hyperbole

[dense dove]

^

I've seen that bosses in ds3 like midir that lasted far too long and one mistake fucked you up were far less liked

[woven ice]

I don’t read ppl minds tho. Sorry I can’t tell if ur exaggerating

[dense dove]

similarly, e1 is kinda bad design

[woven ice]

I guess 1 hour level is nice though. Not too long nor short

[dense dove]

yes, that is optimal length

d2's approach to difficulty was very good

[ebon slate]

I think D2 is my favourite level this rundown

[dense dove]

yeah, same here

d2 should've been the last level

[calm vessel]

old c1 was good

R1C1

[dense dove]

c1 is still fine

oh

nvm

c1 was kind of jank this rundown and could be cheesed in a variety of ways

[atomic escarp]

I really missed the R1C2 chargers

[mellow creek]

same

i wonder why they will sleep while covering their face

[atomic escarp]

IMO chargers made the shove mechanic more useful cause they swing their shit around like what the hybrids do now when you enter their no no square

[real schooner]

@dense dove I hope the devs know that the time loop on E1 is a bit much for the average player. Not everybody has time for 2 hr time syncs to wipe on the surge door to 594 or whatever.

Like DS bosses have what a 15 min time loop? so what if you die 20 times. E1 on the other hand I've probably put too much time into it and still haven't got past the C2-esque section

[dense dove]

the c2 section is the last section

[real schooner]

I spoiled myself I know the ending, just my team aren't hardcore to do more than 3-4 attempts a week

[mellow creek]

well.... theres a reason why only 4/6% of player base finishes r1

but the game is still going strong

[real schooner]

I finished R1

I like R1D1 it was great

[mellow creek]

idk i think its on purpose

that the game is hard

[real schooner]

see hard is fine, time sync is not great

[dense dove]

there's a difference between being hard but fair and being bullshit

[real schooner]

I like challenges, not things that make me put 1hr+ to get to the challenge

[dense dove]

e1 crossed the line by a long shot

all my e1 runs end to rng

[mellow creek]

so how long on average did u take to the error door

[real schooner]

1 hr

[mellow creek]

pretty sure the entire error section last < 20mins

[real schooner]

RNG has some wipes on a few shitty attempts, by the time we get a good run it's 1 hr

that's fine but we keep wiping

[mellow creek]

means theres room for improvements haha

either kiting

or strategies

[dense dove]

my argument for why e1 is shit is the kiting

kiting is an unfun tactic

it is amazingly good but it is not fun to do

[real schooner]

I agree we probably can do it eventually, just it's not fun doing 1 hr of stealth repeatedly

[mellow creek]

did u kite for 593/594 ?

[dense dove]

you kite until the surge

and the final surge is definitely a kite

[mellow creek]

i mean theres diff strags.........

i finished 6 runs some ended with kiting some ended with gunning

its doable

even with bad rng

[dense dove]

doable != good

[real schooner]

kiting requires all players to be good at kiting, all players to know where to go and all players to know what to do with the fogu, cell and baby

[mellow creek]

i have scouts on every room b4 the alarm door

[dense dove]

also, I'm calling bullshit on the bad rng

[mellow creek]

lol

erm no

kiting in e1

just need 1 guy to kite

and 3 to die in the room where its easiest to get to ur objective

eg. 593

||as long as the whole team makes it into 593 with ur cells/baby||

just send one guy back

[real schooner]

do you not need everyone up for surge alarms?

[mellow creek]

to kite the whole surge

tried that multiple times

||u have enough time to revive everyone+put in the cells+carry baby+do scans||

since after kiting the spawns dont come together

they staggered

its more than enough with 4 guys shooting at the stragglers

[real schooner]

well that's definitely that strat we'll probably end up using, but I'm still bored of the first part

[mellow creek]

i agree w the first part

[real schooner]

like only me and one other teammate are good at kiting though

that amount of times we save runs is a lot lol

[mellow creek]

im too lazy for the first part

when someone ask me to carry lol

[real schooner]

it's a fine stealth mission, but the level either should have been broken into parts or reduced the first part significantly

[mellow creek]

hmm maybe

or just gun ur way

all the way to error door

save alot of time

and theres more than enough res to go around

[real schooner]

we're already doing that now lol

but we're already bored of the level

it's a really fine line between tedium and fun challenge

and it's not the same for everyone

E1 was my limit apparently

personally C1, C2, D1 and D2 were the best levels in terms of challenge to time input

[mellow creek]

found that d1

has the highest sense of achievement

for myself

haha

[hexed vapor]

E1's end segment might have been fine if it weren't for 593 tbqh

[real schooner]

D1 is great because it does what E1 does but doesn't wombocombo you to infinity at the end, just a small little challenge to finish

[hexed vapor]

Although, if you get bad RNG in 595, and your team is only alright, you're fucked.

[real schooner]

Basically I realize me and my team are "average" GTFO players, so I sad

and as much as one can get gud, there are limits you can push others to do so

but until now no level was really "get gud" just new strats

[hexed vapor]

I wouldn't have minded E1 nearly as much, still, if the first segments were just harder.

[real schooner]

harder and shorter

[hexed vapor]

A mediocre team shouldn't even reach the class error alarm, and the class error section should be made a bit more manageable even with bad RNG.

[real schooner]

yup it should only slightly increase the difficulty towards the end

if the beginning is harder but also not as long

[hexed vapor]

595: 0 scouts, rooms have max of 10 enemies each.
594: 1 scout, always.
593: 0 scouts or 1 scout in M always, max of 10 enemies each room.

Would make it way more fair.

Also, the way 593 is constructed is... weird.

If you go the wrong way, you're screwed, and there are very notable dead ends in the wrong places.

Like H and N.

[real schooner]

honestly I think we can get it, just we won't be having fun and that's the point

[hexed vapor]

Feels like bad design, H and N should be culled

[real schooner]

We had fun up to the error door, a little challenge after would be nbd. Now the number of times we have to try again is: figure out 595 layout (generator, optimal paths, best kite zones and turret placements etc), figure out 595 surge, 594 layout + cell location, 594 surge, 593 layout and 593 surge.

And the final surge is the hardest apparently? well even at 2-3 attempts on each segement that 10 more attempts minimum which is a lot of stealth mission tedium

[hexed vapor]

Final surge is fairly easy if you survive that long.

A lot harder if you don't have ammo

[real schooner]

oh that's good news

[hexed vapor]

The scans are all in the same general area, so you can gun shit down and rely on sentries to do them.

Do you already know the easy strat for the loot rooms?

[real schooner]

well we just kill everything

is there a cheese way to do so?

[hexed vapor]

There is a cheese, but depending on "kill everything" you are probably doing the strat I was talking about

Do you know how to maintain 100% everything and highest use items?

[real schooner]

we get to error door with ammo packs and almost 100% health

we're not awesome players lol

[hexed vapor]

Well, what do you want more of?

Health, ammo, or tool?

[real schooner]

I think we use too much health

[hexed vapor]

So you have 4 people with slots

What do you want them to carry if you're at 100% on everything?

How many meds, tools, and ammo?

[real schooner]

ammo and health

[hexed vapor]

How much of each?

[real schooner]

honestly two people with 4 use ammo and two people with 4 use health seems optimal

[hexed vapor]

2 health 2 ammo then?

[real schooner]

tool is find and use, we have two turrets so it's not an issue

I think we can use our mines better than we are, we're still noobs at mines

[hexed vapor]

Do not use:
5 use ammo (598)
5 use med (600)
5 use med (586)

[real schooner]

makes sense

[hexed vapor]

Have 2 people defending with sentries (including bio), and 2 people alerting rooms.

The 2 people alerting rooms should try to fight enemies with guns until they are downed

You can be a little lighter on guns, though, since you don't need to save the 6 use tool

[real schooner]

so instead of bringing everything along just move like an inch worm?

[edgy brook]

you don't really need to use mines until the final surge

using them anytime before it is just asking for trouble

they'll just end up spawning more

[real schooner]

yah but the guy using mines likes using them for the blood doors and stuff, even if I tell him to save it

[hexed vapor]

Clear everything except for:
598I
598L
599G
586I

Your two alerters should try to stealth those rooms to grab loot and go. No need to fight the enemies if the rooms have nothing in them to loot.

[edgy brook]

we had mines too

[hexed vapor]

Mine deployer should use 1 mine per motion door, and literally nothing else

[edgy brook]

we used them to make the blood doors faster

[real schooner]

makes sense

[edgy brook]

and just wake up and kill giants with it

[hexed vapor]

Do not have mines for shadow titans like a fucking dumbass.

[edgy brook]

because like you, we were getting pretty bored of the whole wait until the error alarm

[hexed vapor]

It is not efficient at all

[real schooner]

lol we tried hammering shadow titans

less efficient

[hexed vapor]

More efficient, but much slower

[edgy brook]

they're pretty efficient though

those areas have a lot of doors

[hexed vapor]

No, they aren't

Do the goddamn math

[real schooner]

we kept getting wombocomboed

[hexed vapor]

Oh, with doors?

Yes, they would be then

[edgy brook]

you can theorycraft all you want, worked for us

[hexed vapor]

Oh, with doors?
Didn't go through

[edgy brook]

and we still get 100% everything

[real schooner]

1 mine per 1 titan isn't a good trade, if you use doors and c-foam it works

[edgy brook]

with 5/5 med 4/4 ammo

[real schooner]

as a tool kit returns you 2 mines

[hexed vapor]

Mines do about 100 damage optimally, and shadow titans have 240 health.

So you aren't doing much if you only hit one shadow titan.

[edgy brook]

much better to just kill them off fast than do what most are doing and dragging them back to the ladder for some reason

[real schooner]

we're just doing it at the doors when needed

[edgy brook]

since you want speed right?

to practice past the alarm?

[hexed vapor]

You want speed and to be conservative.

So that you have max resources

[real schooner]

basically we aren't good enough to just speed

as much as I would like to

[edgy brook]

you don't need max mines anyway

[real schooner]

how mines for 593?

4?

[edgy brook]

and heck, if you don't get topped up with tool in the loot room

2 usually

just for the 2 doors

[real schooner]

then that's easy enough

well I say that

[hexed vapor]

You usually want more imo so that you can rush through into K without needing to worry about the spawns behind you.

[edgy brook]

but yeah the pain is getting there

do not

mine as you run in 593

if you get unlucky, like we did that one time

they're going to spawn in front of you

it's just a huge risk

don't do it

just move

[hexed vapor]

Once you reach K there's fairly low risk.

Shut all of the doors behind you, close the door to F in J.

Place two mines

[edgy brook]

but you're implying they use mines before you get there

that's a terrible idea

[real schooner]

we'll get through 595 first, but I need to keep these strats in my mind so we can learn quicker

[edgy brook]

you've probably been lucky with them spawning behind after every mine

[hexed vapor]

I know how the mechanics work, so you can afford some spawns ahead of you if you don't need the doors.

If you stop in F specifically, you won't lose the doors to M

You want to be in F or K when you stop for that reason

Leapfrog J.

[real schooner]

I mean I can't visualize any of this as I haven't gotten to 593

[hexed vapor]

Know the route through 593 beforehand or you will die

[real schooner]

I've looked at the map of E1, but some teammates don't want to be spoiled

[edgy brook]

well just remember

never mine in the fog

if you can get out of it, sure go ahead and mine

but for the most part in the fog, just rely on cfoam grenades

[real schooner]

oh friendly fire splash damage?

[hexed vapor]

Once you're in J, close and c-foam the door to F.

Someone needs to get into K immediately

Place two mines

[edgy brook]

oh it's not the friendly fire

it's because when things die in the fog

you won't know where they'll spawn next

[real schooner]

ahhhh

[hexed vapor]

Pretty sure spawns are on a timer and not based on death?

[edgy brook]

you get unlucky, they spawn in front of you

you're running after you open 593, you think that's not going to cap it out?

the spawns increase after every surge

[real schooner]

spawns are on a timer, but I do know for surge doors there is a maximum they spawn and if you kill any it spawns more

[edgy brook]

3 spawns for that part and you're topped

you kill some, they spawn instantly

[hexed vapor]

The spawns increase on a timer, as well, not based on surge alarms

[real schooner]

there must be a maximum though? not everyone has 64 GB of ram

[hexed vapor]

Mob cap will limit them

That will be hard to reach, though

[edgy brook]

sleepers go past that limit

[real schooner]

not that it matters as at that point there are too many

[edgy brook]

we've had a person in our team just flat out die

because he lagged too much

[hexed vapor]

Room enemies ignore the limit, yes

Wave enemies obey it, though

[edgy brook]

thankfully, machinepistol is great with holding back while ressing

[real schooner]

so killing sleepers aside, should we be killing the waves?

[hexed vapor]

Only when they're a threat to you.

[edgy brook]

have you done the 594 surge alarm?

i mean the door to open 594

[real schooner]

mate we're getting to 595 surge

[hexed vapor]

So yes

[edgy brook]

ah yes i mean that

you'd usually want to kill waves while some people kill stuff in 594

and loot it/find the cell

[real schooner]

we got to half way towards the door, but buddy woke a room when we weren't ready and we wiped. I'm wondering if we only send two people into 595?

[hexed vapor]

Not sure whether to gun through 594

[edgy brook]

but otherwise, i don't think you'd be actively wanting to kill waves

[hexed vapor]

Seems like it would be much faster, but more resource intensive

[edgy brook]

you have to get to that area with 2 doors

the one up the bridge and the one below

you have to make sure the bottom door doesn't get destroyed

so you open to bridge door

[real schooner]

cause worst case the two vanguards die, and we send one person to go res

at least until we better understand the map and what optimal path to follow

also carrying the batteries is mad annoying

[edgy brook]

it's better to get used to moving together right away as soon as you enter 595

if you can manage getting to the room past the slight fog area after the first tunnel

[real schooner]

that tunnel two doored room?

that's where I was thinking of bunkering two people

[edgy brook]

yeah have you gone past that?

[real schooner]

yah to the fog ravine into another room then we wiped

[edgy brook]

yeah that another room you mentioned

needs the door up to the right

the one with the bridge

[real schooner]

to not break?

[edgy brook]

it needs to be opened

right away

so the door bottom right

doesn't break

[real schooner]

ok will remember

[edgy brook]

when you're in the tunnel and you hear the alarm spawn

if it's up front, make a mad dash for it

else, you can take your time

[real schooner]

this is for surge door prep?

[edgy brook]

yeah

it's really hard to do the surge with that door broken

since the surge wave will just flood in

you can send like 1 guy to open the door

[real schooner]

it'll probably make sense once I see it in person

it'll be me haha

[edgy brook]

since you can kite the waves in that room anyway

while some ferry the stuff over

[real schooner]

I'm good at kiting so I'll just start kiting all over the place, have the others slowly creep forward

I should bring mines as the kiter, as picking up turret is annoying

and bio is vital for sentries

[edgy brook]

well, just remember to have someone protecting the guys transporting too

would be a shame if they get downed in the fog or something

[real schooner]

it'll be three transporting and me as distraction/hammering kiting

kiting is a lot easier if I know where to loop, but I'll learn

[edgy brook]

if you ever get to the room again, the left side of it is pretty long

so once you open the door, you can start kiting

[real schooner]

but this conversation was all originally that I'm not happy E1's long time sync to get to the fun part

[edgy brook]

and there's even a partition too

[obtuse surge]

something that works quite well in 595 if your teammates got downed is just going back to that first out of fog section

[edgy brook]

yeah it gets really repetitive

[obtuse surge]

you wait at the other door for them to catch up

then run through the entire enemy cap

they lose a lot of time on the stairs where you can just drop down

[real schooner]

yah that makes a lot of sense

[obtuse surge]

will buy enough time for all revives

you just gotta be able to run through 30 enemies without going down

[edgy brook]

if only the game could incorporate checkpoints

ahaha

[real schooner]

I can do that and my one friend can

the other two not so much

I mean it's fine having marathon levels, but the design needs to be just right else E1 happens

[obtuse surge]

something you can do to make the last surge alarms easier is bringing a c foam launcher

we just brought 1 sentry on both my winning runs

[real schooner]

1 sentry eh, might be doable

[obtuse surge]

does just fine and the extra c foam launcher can foam doors

[edgy brook]

we kind of just depend on the cfoam grenades that spawn

[obtuse surge]

that'll work

[edgy brook]

there's usually up to 4 uses you can loot around

[obtuse surge]

but you'll have less

[real schooner]

I'll talk with my team about these strats, I think the more resources for the turret is also beneficial

my only gripe is surge doors will be harder for the first two sections

[obtuse surge]

there's one door that's great to c foam for 595 surge

while for 593 you'll want to c foam 3-4 doors

on my first winning run we didn't have the enemies break through up to the last scan

[edgy brook]

won't have to cfoam that other door if they wake up anyway

ahaha

[obtuse surge]

for the 593 surge^^

[real schooner]

ahhhh I wish I could just do the error door parts it sounds so fun

C2 is my favourite level

[edgy brook]

d2 is pretty fun too

[real schooner]

D2 is second favourite

honestly they're both equally fun to do

[obtuse surge]

less replay value on D2

[edgy brook]

well i think so as well on the c2 thing

but that level almost made my mates quit

[real schooner]

replay value is a bit moot when we wait for new rundowns every few months?

most the levels are figuring out the puzzle the devs create for us, once you solve it there's little fun left

other than new strats I guess

[edgy brook]

c1 has the most replay value if you're looking for it

so many ways to go about it

i mean d1

[calm vessel]

i think d2 has a good replay value

D1 ;-;

[obtuse surge]

but how many times have you played D2

[calm vessel]

me?

[obtuse surge]

yes

[real schooner]

after beating it zero

[calm vessel]

if people want to play ill play

[real schooner]

cause E1 keeps wrecking my shit

[calm vessel]

ive played it quite a bit

[edgy brook]

r2d2 is just how many ways can you torture a reactor wave

it's fun in its own way

[obtuse surge]

👀

[calm vessel]

i think its def the best expedition out of R2 and R1

[real schooner]

that and C2 for me

[calm vessel]

R1 c2?

[real schooner]

R2C2

[calm vessel]

that was a good one

oh

[real schooner]

I forget R1C2

[calm vessel]

chargers

[real schooner]

of the diarrhea ladders

[calm vessel]

R1C1 was great

i wuved it

[obtuse surge]

R1B1

solo dream

[calm vessel]

i liked B1

[obtuse surge]

one alarm

[calm vessel]

oh nvm b2

[real schooner]

I remember my team having trouble on R1B1, those were the days

[calm vessel]

god R1B1 took like 20 tries to duo

[edgy brook]

was r1b1 that pid mission?

[real schooner]

now? we'd probably all be able to solo it

yah

[calm vessel]

supplies were none existant in that one

[real schooner]

hammering is pretty OP

[edgy brook]

yeah, we had no idea what to do with big boys back then

just sneak past em

[calm vessel]

i wish glow sticks were viable again

make pitch dark maps ;-;

[edgy brook]

since with terrible rng, you can get like 10 in a room

[real schooner]

I would like missions to have more dark areas

[edgy brook]

im still hoping they fix how throwables work

[real schooner]

maybe with boundary invincible enemies that oneshot you

[edgy brook]

because they never get disposed

EVER

[real schooner]

like wall tentacles

[edgy brook]

a bunch of fog repellers

can make someone on a low end pc lag like hell

[calm vessel]

what...

[real schooner]

oh I didn't know that

[edgy brook]

they never disappear

[calm vessel]

seems like a problem

[edgy brook]

so do glowsticks

[calm vessel]

maybe they should like bodies

[real schooner]

even when you leave the area? I'd hope areas dynamically unload?

[edgy brook]

at least blastnut disappears after some time

[calm vessel]

i think it makles sense that they stay though

blastnut?

[edgy brook]

oh wait

i mean cfoam grenade

[real schooner]

we call it nut too don't worry

[calm vessel]

should be an option to make things disappear

the c-foam grenade explodes though

you call it nut?

[real schooner]

it is early access so those sound like good game suggestions to make

[calm vessel]

i call it ***

[edgy brook]

let's just say

we've down some experiments with blastnutting

[real schooner]

we be more pg

[calm vessel]

***-grenade

[real schooner]

think of the KIDS!

lol

[calm vessel]

ive never met someone younger than 17 in here

in vc at least

[real schooner]

I'm jesting

but they really didn't even try to make it look like anything else

[calm vessel]

that new ;ady gaga album 👏

[edgy brook]

https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/585063132553281556/716398267998535791

and i mean we EXPERIMENTED

[real schooner]

lmao

[calm vessel]

so much

[real schooner]

4 guys 1 c-foam

[calm vessel]

i like the small capsules on the side

its a great model

[edgy brook]

we had to find some fun while doing e1

[calm vessel]

what do you think c-foam is? like the quick expanding foam?

[real schooner]

It's probably a type of spray foam

I work with the stuff

super adhesive and depending can cure in minutes

[calm vessel]

isnt it a tingey yellow colour?

[edgy brook]

i just think it's a coagulant but for literally everything

[real schooner]

spray foam is any color

usually white, often purple

[calm vessel]

can you get hot pink?

[real schooner]

yup

[calm vessel]

what if im not in the mood for that and want a softer pink?

[real schooner]

lol

[calm vessel]

add in coloured c-foam

microtransactions

[real schooner]

I'm waiting for character customization which is on their roadmap

I need to be a team of 4 Nigerians

[calm vessel]

same, i just want timbs 100% of the time instead of 1/4 chances i get to play hackett

[real schooner]

oh the characters have names?

[calm vessel]

yea

[real schooner]

where is that info?

[calm vessel]

https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Characters

[real schooner]

Well I'm glad I guessed he was Nigerian properly

otherwise that'd be

[ebon slate]

So today i (yet again): Failed to complete D1, Failed to complete D2, Failed to complete E1,

this is the life

[calm vessel]

true

ill play with you if you want

[subtle vault]

welcome to R2

[calm vessel]

we can do d2

i dont like d1

ill play later though

[ebon slate]

Welcome to GTFO, where a run is 4 hours and a death at the end wastes half the day

[calm vessel]

busy rn

[real schooner]

I like D1! D1 lives matter

[calm vessel]

D1 is misery

[ebon slate]

i don't like my time being wasted which is why D1 and E1 are the worst

[calm vessel]

It’s not hard, just the fog is not fun to go through

Wallsack rng can be aweful sometimes

[ebon slate]

2% health, in fog, died to a pus on the wall you couldn't see, fair and balanced game design

[real schooner]

I was here with the same thing about E1, but for some reason D1 is fine to me

[calm vessel]

Why I refuse to play it more truancy once a week

[edgy brook]

you have that unfair 610 corridor in d1

with all the spitters

[real schooner]

probably because we sacrificed two guys to the fog gods while I stay home and dry

[calm vessel]

Part 1 of e1 is boring

[ebon slate]

Just kite the enemies, because kiting is super interesting and "fun"

[calm vessel]

I enjoy it

[real schooner]

Part 1 of E1 would be a good C or D level

[calm vessel]

Reminds me of zombies

[ebon slate]

eh, it's not the best thing in the game

[calm vessel]

It’s not good when the dodging doesn’t work right

[edgy brook]

it's not good either when you're the one with a crappy isp

[calm vessel]

True

ok i can do D2

if youre down

[hexed vapor]

Should I make a reddit post for reactor wave spawn mechanics?

Feel like it's unneccessary and self-explanatory, but they are unique compared to normal mechanics

[calm vessel]

i think a picture of set up would be ideal

alot of people dont hold out properly

[hexed vapor]

Also, does anyone know where the south path ends, or if there are multiple paths?

[calm vessel]

south path?

where they spawn from or walk at

the move along the west wall

so you dont need turrets for south door

just a guy with a ranged weapon will work

[hexed vapor]

Yah, where does the game consider to be the furthest out location on the south path?

190A is the furthest on the west and 195B is the furthest on the north

[calm vessel]

there might be a map somewhere

[hexed vapor]

I know the map, but 197 splits

So l, if I stand in 197B, and 198, 199, and 200 are open

Where do enemies spawn?

[calm vessel]

might be random

[hexed vapor]

That's what I'm wondering. Maybe the game has directionality

[calm vessel]

how does a regular wave spawn?

[hexed vapor]

So 198, 199, and 200 are all further out

2 away, any room

[calm vessel]

yea

so it might be random or the room closet with the further room

oops the room with the closets back room

ive seen enemies spawn right infront of me looking trough a room

[hexed vapor]

I think it's probably any room 2 away that is further out than all occupied rooms

[calm vessel]

and in c1 they spawn as close as possible

[hexed vapor]

If none exist, 1 away

If none exist, 0 away

[calm vessel]

i think it should be any room

since they spawn in random paths in D2

[hexed vapor]

C1 is only weird because of uplonks

Uplinks

Only the zone with the uplink in it gets spawns

[calm vessel]

i think its because of the stealth mechanic it doesnt take into consideration of the shadows spawn location

tfw doing uplink in 205

they spawn right on you

[hexed vapor]

Yah, because A and B are literally the only options

Both occupied?

[calm vessel]

no just b was occupied

[hexed vapor]

Both are 0 and equally viable

[calm vessel]

this was when R2 just came out though

so it was probably a bug

havent seen it since the nerfs

[hexed vapor]

Yah, it still happens in 205 and 206 but is a bug

[calm vessel]

ive tired to occupy the back room in 206 back they spawned on me

[hexed vapor]

For the record, hasn't happened to me yet with 30+ comps

[calm vessel]

i finally got 206 for the first time yesterday

[hexed vapor]

In 206, D is only supposed to be possible if B is occupied

If whole team is in C, only A is viablem.

[calm vessel]

oooh, we tried to force spawn out as far as we could

makes sense

but we werent in a

only b,c,d

they shouldnt have spawned in d by that logic

[hexed vapor]

The mechanics break if players are 2 rooms apart.

Yep

[calm vessel]

even if therye each in one of the three rooms

dumb

[hexed vapor]

Occupy at most 2 adjacent rooms

[calm vessel]

so you cant occupy d.c.b to force a?

[hexed vapor]

Only exception that is untested is...

If you have A, B, and C

A connects to B and C, B and C also connect

This means no players are 2 apart, and it may work

[calm vessel]

they spawn in d then

so the same problem with d,c,b

if one player is in each room

[hexed vapor]

The game basically is at risk of considerong one player and not the others if too spread out

[calm vessel]

but they werent 2 rooms apart

[hexed vapor]

That wasn't 206, I was talking hypothetical

[calm vessel]

if the terminal is in c

theres always someone in between

[hexed vapor]

So, D does not connect to B

[calm vessel]

but b connects to c

[hexed vapor]

So players in D are 2 away from players in B

[calm vessel]

and c connects to b

[hexed vapor]

If D and B were connected, they would be 1 away, and the game might not freak out

[sullen sigil]

||Boo! 👻👻 (did I scare you?)||

[hexed vapor]

Spooky

[calm vessel]

ooh

so the players dont connect the room

i thought their presence would connect the rooms

[hexed vapor]

No, the game's actual mechanics are actually removed from how we understand them

So edge cases are unpredictable

Think of it as describing a black box

Our best models only work under conditions where all players are 1 away

From all other players

[calm vessel]

so the terminal uplink doesnt work like regular waves with occupying space

[hexed vapor]

All spawn mechanics are unpredictable if players spread out too much

[calm vessel]

if theres no room for them to spawn away from you they spawn on you

like in E! surge

[hexed vapor]

With 206, though: 205 and 204 are not spawn points, as uplinks only spawn enemies in the same zone (the caveat I mentioned). So, if all players are in C, they spawn in A (only area 2 away). However, if you are in B and C, A and D are both 1 away, and both get spawns.

[calm vessel]

so its either an uplink mechanic or shadow mechanic

[hexed vapor]

Can get spawns*

[calm vessel]

so its just an uplink mechanic then

i dont think R1D1 had that

they spawned pretty far from you

[hexed vapor]

Default mechanics: Any room 2 away
Uplink caveat: Same zone as terminal only
Reactor caveat: Further out on reactor paths only

There are different mechanics that may have existed for shadows in R1D1 for the extraction only, but they have seen little testing and are poorly underatood.

The uplink caveat I only figured out last week, btw.

[hexed vapor]

One of these things is not like the others...

It follows the striker kills very closely, actually

The two clear outliers are AR, which has the lowest damage despite being better than pistol for kills, and the burst rifle, which has loads of damage despite demanding more ammo per kill

[mossy yoke]

how do you have those exact numbers @hexed vapor ?

[hexed vapor]

I literally shared it a week ago

Team damage numbers

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TLAEQjYkB8eT67iz2PejtbGBe83YTjUNsf5DlAixegs/edit#gid=0

[mossy yoke]

The only way to get the damage in the way it was posted is via datamining. Posting how many bullets it takes to kill something is fine, that is done via scientific method. That link you just posted is damage per bullet. What you previously posted is data mining and not allowed per our #rules

[mortal granite]

you can shoot your teammate i think

[hexed vapor]

Damage per bullet is used to calculate damage per ammo pack

[mortal granite]

and use that as damage

[hexed vapor]

SMG bullets do 2.9 damage

Ammo pack gives you 70 ammo for SMG per use

Therefore, SMG can deal 203 damage per ammo pack use

[mossy yoke]

that doesn't even sound like a good metric to use..

[hexed vapor]

Why?

[mossy yoke]

also Captain team damage is diff than enemy damage

[mortal granite]

ok

[mossy yoke]

Wouldn't it make more sense to just go by how many bullets it takes to use what the spreadsheet shows, bullets needed to kill

[hexed vapor]

It's specifically useful for titans, which have massive health pools (240 and 300)

[mossy yoke]

... there we go with more data mining

[hexed vapor]

DUDE

IT'S ON THE FUCKIN' SHEET

You can test how many shots it takes to kill an enemy

and compare that to the damage numbers

To find enemy health

Which they did

[mossy yoke]

Where on the sheet does it show how much health a specific enemy has?

[hexed vapor]

Under notes

It's also easy to verify with sniper

[mossy yoke]

ahh i didn't scroll down far enough

[hexed vapor]

Literally all damage numbers and health pools can be verified this way.

Sentries are the only inconsistency right now due to damage varying between host and non-host (possibly owner and non-owner)

Main Damage per Ammo use:
Assault Rifle: 157.5
DMR: 168
Pistol: 180
SMG: 203
Machine Pistol: 216
Burst Rifle: 246.4

Special Damage per Ammo use:
Revolver: 324
Sniper: 360
Combat Shotgun: 432
Machine Gun: 441.6
Shotgun: 480

[mossy yoke]

Sorry about that, seemed a bit odd and didn't see all the notes due to the need to scroll and the blank spaces between some of the info

[mortal granite]

i think the sheet Master of 4 Letter words post up there is based on shooting teammate

there's a note down the line that's said " obtained by shooting teammates"

[hexed vapor]

Well he knows that now.

It's about time we had public numbers as well, because the datamining rule has been staunchly anti-newbie in practice.

[mossy yoke]

whoever runs that sheet, i'd recommend cleaning it up a bit. maybe make a sheet that is just an info/introduction overview and put the notes there. basically move stuff so you don't have to scroll down/to the right to view (like the notes and enemy health). I scrolled to bottom of the notes section and stopped when i saw blank section so didn't see the stuff further below

[hexed vapor]

https://dd.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/gqnc39/damage_numbers_for_every_gun_spreadsheet/

If you wanted to let them know.

It's WIP from what I understand

[mortal granite]

burst and shotgun are a little

[hexed vapor]

Take BR and pump to be the titan killer man

[mortal granite]

well ye

pump like

titan destroyer

if you headshot with BR

man

[hexed vapor]

Doing hammer damage calcs.

Moving to #gtfo-related-questions

Alright, hammer damage is narrowed down to a range of 0.108 values for zero charge and a range of 2.857 values for full charge.

If you assume that full charge is 5x zero charge, then you can narrow the full charge range to 0.540 values

I think the only enemy that I haven't tested that potentially has a different health pool is the charger (assuming it doesn't have 60 health, in which case it's just shooter health).

Values are pretty close to:
Zero Charge: 8
Full Charge: 40

Range shouldn't be possible to narrow with head crits, since it will take fewer hits

the more hits it takes the more accurate the numbers

[hexed vapor]

Dude, scout health is really fuckin' weird.

It's between 82 and 84 I think.

Which is really specific.

Hammer to the back barely doesn't kill.

[mellow creek]

what about 2 charge to the back

tgt

or front

[hexed vapor]

You can full charge to the back an then zero charge to the front to kill (~88 damage)

DMR three shots to the face, going to test two shots and body shots now

Alright, head crit seems to be a 3x

7 shots to body with DMR

2 shots to head and 1 shot to body with DMR

6 shots in 2 is 3 shots in 1.

Put it on reddit for the creator

[hexed vapor]

Confirmed head crits on titan shooters, titan strikers, and hybrids.

2x, 1.5x, and 2x respectively.

I believe I've finally exhausted numbers to test

Shadows are not worth testing, they're already consistent with having the same health and damage as their more corporeal counter-parts.

[hexed vapor]

Interesting, shooters do under 5 damage.

I just let one wale on me and it left me with 4% HP after 20 shots.

Probably like 4.8 damage?

[mellow creek]

inclusive of regens?

[hexed vapor]

Regen shouldn't affect if I'm taking constant damage?

[mellow creek]

u do heal

[hexed vapor]

The offset started before 20, though

[mellow creek]

when u go below 20

even when taking damage

hmm

[hexed vapor]

Heal doesn't kick in until a brief CD

[mellow creek]

ah..

[hexed vapor]

I think 03/2020 is a display on the broken timer, btw

(in addition to 16/2020)

Which I take to mean that R3 will drop in either early or mid June.

That's really weird, though, since the European date would be day/month/year

and 16 isn't a month

Not to mention March and April are behind us.

[turbid cliff]

99% doubt it'd be early june

I took it as between 16 june and 3-4 july

All of those numbers don't have to hold any meaning really

[barren notch]

i think the timer in game is now 03,03,04,16,20,2020

[rain heron]

the 3 is possibly related to Rundown "3" and 16 maybe is of June or July, who knows.

[turbid cliff]

perhaps

[rare crane]

did you guys see the ludvig leak

[glacial crescent]

Hey guys, look in ludvig leak

[calm vessel]

they do have over pen

[hexed vapor]

So gauss rifle and gauss gun are confirmed different weapons

[calm vessel]

so BR might stay in the game

if therye adding multiple variant of each type

[hexed vapor]

gauss gun is a sniper-revolver of sorts, while gauss rifle is a strong over-penetration weapon.

[calm vessel]

thats gonna be so good for clearing stacked waves

might have a charge up though, since it wasnt shown.

umm

they said they arent making weapons silent

[craggy flame]

That looked kinda sick ngl

[hexed vapor]

So, 4 new weapons confirmed

[turbid cliff]

Great, now i need a gauss shotgun

[calm vessel]

oh god

would be op

stacked titans

[turbid cliff]

Would be fun for team damage too kek

[calm vessel]

do you think they would make pen work on team?

[craggy flame]

4? Arent only 3 guns leaked?

[calm vessel]

theres more

carbine, gauss gun/ rifle, and maybe 3

oh ya bullpup

[craggy flame]

Ahh, didnt know that. Thank you^^

[mellow creek]

lookslike surge scans gona be ez now

unless maybe theres some new variant

in midst of the surge scans

hahaa

[calm vessel]

might be bad since gauss has charge time, and you cant really stagger them when they light up during the scan

[atomic escarp]

So, 4 new weapons confirmed
@hexed vapor

How do we know some are could be reworks of current weapons? The Gauss rifle actually makes me think it's a reworked sniper. It uses one of the property's of over penetrating that the community has been asking for. And if that's the case, it's buffed it and made it into a more usable weapons. You can take out trains of sleepers with that.

[hexed vapor]

A rework would be a balance change to an existing weapon.

R1's MG and R2's MG are not the same weapons, R2's MG is a new weapon.

[calm vessel]

seems like a rework of the mg though

[hexed vapor]

GR, GG, Carbine, and Bullpup are not rebalances to BR or AR or something.

[calm vessel]

more ammo for less control

[hexed vapor]

No, the guns don't even have the same name.

[lone dome]

Gauss Rifle as an mg?

[calm vessel]

a rework doesnt need to make it not the same thing

[hexed vapor]

Technman Veruta vs the Techman Arbalest.

[calm vessel]

it just shift the balance and things around

it got reworked. new sight and handling

more ammo too

[hexed vapor]

They're different guns

[calm vessel]

ofc it would be different models

[hexed vapor]

No, you don't understand

They are

canonically

different guns

[calm vessel]

yes thats what im saying

but the mg slot got reworked

[atomic escarp]

I think what they are doing like this rundown. They are taking some previously weak, underused weapons. And are completely reworking then from the ground up, hence "Gauese" in the names. Essentially, they are new weapons.

[hexed vapor]

A different gun for that type of gun would have the same type name

So, if carbine were a burst rifle, it would be called a burst rifle.

[calm vessel]

they are new weapons

not essentially

new type of weapon too

[atomic escarp]

Yeah, but adding new weapons is only going to make the current weapons that the community doesn't use even more underused. But who knows 🤷

[calm vessel]

hope BR stays and bullpup is just a burst sniper variant

more choice for people

add more things and people will pick something they like

its a good thing

[hexed vapor]

I think their solution is to have some weapons on some rundowns but not others.

[calm vessel]

better tahn limited weapons and someone not liking all of them

[atomic escarp]

Reworked or not, I'm hyped for the new weapons and even more game changing mechanics.

[calm vessel]

i really dont like the pistol and revolver

can tsee anything when i aim

[atomic escarp]

I dislike the pistol but love the revolver.

[glad tree]

I feel pretty comfy with the AR and pump shotty these days

Well

"these days" this is day 2 for me lol

Practicing solo in A1 has helped we w/ weapon tests

[atomic escarp]

From the looks of it, R3 is going to be even bigger than the R2 update.

Which is very exciting.

[calm vessel]

i like b4 for testing weapons

[atomic escarp]

I like D2 for testing.

[calm vessel]

im not that far so i havent got it unlocked

[glad tree]

I just hope if they go for DLC cosmetics there's some nice hammer skins

Not like goofy ones, just maybe some hammer designs that look like proper mining equipment

[calm vessel]

make squeaky toy hammer skin with v/o and everything

would pay big bucks

[glad tree]

I would say if they made more character skins and let you swap default with them I'd drop an unholy amount of money into it

But

I also fear the rise of joke skins in any vaguely horror-themed title

[calm vessel]

what about killing floor?

many joke skins and its a great game

best arena game ive played

[glad tree]

Fun game but it doesn't exactly bleed atmosphere out of every pore like this one does

[calm vessel]

theres always the choice of not using that content

[glad tree]

Truth

[atomic escarp]

It honestly looks like the gause rifle is a reworked sniper.

[glad tree]

Given the way gauss weapons would be prone to overheating and coil warping that makes sense.

High acceleration of a solid slug projectile making it a good alternative to chemical propellant rounds and all.

Assuming it didn't go for "so fast the air around it turns to plasma" like RL railguns do.

[atomic escarp]

Similar ammo capacity, sight, amount of ammo. The fact it has overpentration, it's very community taken and inspired. The fact making the ammo per mag from 3 to 4 is a bug difference and a really nice buff to the sniper, makes it more usable.

[smoky pier]

hey guys, real quick. can someone dm me the E1 map? like the part where the error alarm doesnt stop

[calm vessel]

still need the map?

@smoky pier

[hoary elk]

Similar ammo capacity, sight, amount of ammo. The fact it has overpentration, it's very community taken and inspired. The fact making the ammo per mag from 3 to 4 is a bug difference and a really nice buff to the sniper, makes it more usable.
@atomic escarp I do agree that the Gauss rifle looks like a new sniper. We’ll have to see I guess. What I’m curious about is why there’s a Gauss rifle and Gauss gun (both seem to hold about the same ammo, from the footage, all I can see is that Gauss gun has a different smaller zoom scope, and holds 8 rounds)

[smoky pier]

yup

[atomic escarp]

@hoary elk I honestly believe it's a completely reworked Sniper and DMR that's what I think about the Gause, although we will probably get like 1 or 2 new weapons maybe.

[calm vessel]

gauss gun/rigle are both secondary

dmr isnt gonna be replaced by them

[atomic escarp]

Actually, you are right. The Gause gun is not a rework of the DMR. It's for sure, a completely new weapon.

I would really like a buff to the DMR thoe, DMR is good but it takes a huge amount skill to know how to use it.

[lethal scarab]

Just wait 'till you see the nerf gun

[smoky pier]

ok wat i saw in #dev-leaks...

there's gonna be collateral for the sniper and gauss rifle

hella fuckin cool

[frank mauve]

kiting gonna be hella easier now

[smoky pier]

yeah

[atomic escarp]

Nah, I doubt it. They're probably going to find a way to balance.

[dense dove]

hopefully they do

the best way would be to have small sleepers smack you if you try to run by them like the big guys

[atomic escarp]

With kiting, it's easy to do. But hard to master. And if you slip up, it's very punishing.

[craggy summit]

Gauss rifle probably is a reworked sniper. It uses the same firing sound, and has slightly more ammo in reserve and in the clip. Would be weird to have a good sniper, and a bad one

[atomic escarp]

I'm a sniper main, and they just made the gause rifle my new go to weapon.

[atomic escarp]

Oh shit are they adding bullet penetration?

Looks like it.

[brittle crescent]

:OmegaSparkle:

[atomic escarp]

[mortal granite]

gauss rifle

1 shot body shot 3 kills

i don't know chief

that's a little op

[atomic escarp]

If they are all together, you can tell it's a very small margin

[craggy flame]

I realized those are actually 4 kills. So this rifle doesnt give a F 😄

[atomic escarp]

All in a very tight spread.

[silver flare]

any clue for guessing date of new rundown ?

[mortal granite]

16/06/2020

or july

[silver flare]

16 days remain ! wow !

[mortal granite]

same as R2 when they tease them

[silver flare]

r2 is reasled in 13 day

this one is 16

[mortal granite]

not 16 tho

the update was 29/05

so 18

[dense dove]

gotta get my shit together and beat e1 before the update

[mortal granite]

i recommend the dude with bio tracker holding the shotgun

[craggy summit]

https://images.mein-mmo.de/medien/2020/06/GTFO-The-Vessel-COver-1000x1024.jpg

apparently some german website had this

can't be sure if the details are true

[glad tree]

Ah, yes

The box where I keep my secret ||[REDACTED]||

[forest horizon]

@willow coral did you guys really just go to that effort of teasing a possible release date in game then just let some random german gaming website publish it?

thats so weird, lol

but I won't complain, thats way sooner if true

[mossy yoke]

Well, that's Germany's largest gaming site, so not a random website.

Maybe you guys haven't fully decrypted the date in game yet 😉

[forest horizon]

still weird for them to do that, but meh

[craggy summit]

probably part of lordvig's plans lul

[forest horizon]

as far as I can tell the date in game has multiple possible dates

[mossy yoke]

That's kind how PR works. You build hype and sometimes you have exclusivities with varies media outlets.

😉

[craggy summit]

big hype

[atomic escarp]

Would an ARG be good PR for when the full game is nearing its release?

[forest horizon]

that demonic picture of the baby is fucking horrifying

[craggy summit]

"While there are no pictures of the new opponent, the developers told us something about how it should sound. Images of a younger family member of one of the developers were taken for the new monster."

I'm a little scared about what the enemy might be

[forest horizon]

posted a pic of the baby in media

I heard the new enemy was gonna be some grabber thing

maybe that was just rumors

[craggy summit]

well would make sense

small creature

[forest horizon]

i hope it isn't like the child necromorphs in dead space

because that would be annoying

[glacial crescent]

Which one? The Pack or Lurkers?

[forest horizon]

the pack ones

not the fetus things

[glacial crescent]

Insert loud autistic screeching from all sides

😂

It'd be an annoying enemy thou

[forest horizon]

make a regular striker tiny and way faster

broken keyboards ensue

[craggy summit]

jockey, but its a demon baby

[atomic escarp]

seems like r3 has 3a lvl, 1b 2c and 1d

[turbid cliff]

source

[forest horizon]

where did you get the others

[craggy summit]

https://mein-mmo.de/horror-shooter-gtfo-ist-ein-geheim-tipp-auf-steam-das-steckt-im-neuen-update/

[forest horizon]

we know for sure it goes up to A3 and 1 b level

[craggy summit]

website says there are 7 expeditions

[atomic escarp]

im surprised that its a german website

[forest horizon]

oh shit didnt read that

I guess cause 10c is based in sweden

[turbid cliff]

would sure be nice if i could read german

[atomic escarp]

i mean im from germany and heared from the website like only once or twice

[craggy summit]

you can just google translate it

[forest horizon]

apparently its the biggest german gaming website

according to doc

[lucid moon]

@willow coral any comments about it?

[craggy summit]

it is approved PR so the info is probably going to be out some time soon

plus doc never said it is fake

[forest horizon]

lordvig confirmed troll

the ingame date is pure misdirection it seems

while the real date just gets released

[atomic escarp]

i think a british website would have been a better choice but im fine with that 😄

[forest horizon]

looks like the devs are gonna take this rundown into more of a horror route

which has been a longtime coming imo

[atomic escarp]

well in short more story, guns and 1 new enemy

[craggy summit]

They do need to improve ambience so we get some good scares and immersion

[forest horizon]

I just need more combat music

that shit gets so old

[sullen sigil]

😫☝️

[craggy summit]

means the update is dropping a little more than a week from now

[atomic escarp]

thursday

[nocturne flax]

so... i struggle for 40+ hours on e1 to save some E.T looking goofy ass alien lmao........ shoot me

[atomic escarp]

next week

[turbid cliff]

wait

didn't they say sleepers aren't aliens

fuck's this about aliens now

[forest horizon]

considering the game takes place in the remains of an ancient asteroid

[atomic escarp]

well they dont mean aliens like alines

[turbid cliff]

also the dude they hired for story

[forest horizon]

it would be weird if the sleepers had nothing to do with aliens

[atomic escarp]

they mean its alien like

[nocturne flax]

probably some experimentation with humans or something

[turbid cliff]

what do you think the hiring voice actors is for

[nocturne flax]

maybe we are on a different planet that looks exactly like earth and the humans there look different

they hire the actor to say that the "THE PLACE ITS BIG"

[forest horizon]

There are only gonna be 4 va though?

why would their need to hire more

[craggy summit]

gotta admit, the story writer is pretty pog

[turbid cliff]

exactly

[forest horizon]

unless they are re-hiring the same people because there has been no new dialogue since release

[turbid cliff]

wdym

the scout lines weren't a thing in r1

and some others

[feral token]

yeah they were

[forest horizon]

you sure?

[turbid cliff]

never heard em

[feral token]

there were some new voicelines in R2

[forest horizon]

Then im even more confused lol

[craggy summit]

Would be weird if it doesn't

[forest horizon]

devs wouldn't do that

[weak python]

its too soonµ

[craggy summit]

why release misleading release dates to a major gaming news outlet

[forest horizon]

^^^

R3 looks like its gonna be pretty short and will probably reuse a lot of rooms from R1 and R2

so it makes sense its coming out so soon

[nocturne flax]

the sooner the better

[atomic escarp]

1 new enemy its most likely that its a baby thing

[forest horizon]

I mean, dates change, but this is the most recent info

[turbid cliff]

@iron salmon it's what the news article says and here's the place to talk about it

[craggy summit]

Still would be confusing to give faulty info off unless they want to trick everyone

[nocturne flax]

i dont believe the baby its gonna be an enemy they look way too friendly

[turbid cliff]

i checked

nothing new

[iron salmon]

My b haha. Deleted it

[nocturne flax]

its cute

[mellow creek]

june 11? o.o

was there an annoucement or something

[turbid cliff]

news article

[atomic escarp]

yeah

there is a artical

[nocturne flax]

maybe were actually helping the aliens get their stuff back

[mellow creek]

ah

[turbid cliff]

deres a aritcularal

[atomic escarp]

in short for you 1 new enemy, more story and 7 lvl

[forest horizon]

baby looks about as friendly as a serial killer in a dark alley

[nocturne flax]

it looks like a chicken

[turbid cliff]

and they're hiring a poggers dude for story

[craggy summit]

hope this rundown has more interesting lore elements

[nocturne flax]

somebody in the complex decided its a good idea to mix chickens with humans lmao

[forest horizon]

hold on, maybe they plan on having voiced dialogue for logs and shit

[mellow creek]

hmmm

[atomic escarp]

yeah a guy who worked on doom and last of us

[turbid cliff]

yeah thought about voice logs too

[forest horizon]

thats the only thing that makes sense

[turbid cliff]

or maybe hiring people to voice enemies

[forest horizon]

new enemy repeats shit it heard from its victims like sirenhead

👀

[craggy summit]

mimic

[turbid cliff]

new sacks with 400 different screams

[nocturne flax]

i would like that tongue guy from the documentary

i hope it looks creepier tho

[turbid cliff]

they had a lot of bs

[forest horizon]

yeah in the gtfo doc

it looked dumb as hell, no wonder they scrapped it

[turbid cliff]

fkn discrimination

he didn't choose to be born that way you roundhead

[forest horizon]

pyramid legsy

[turbid cliff]

musta been an early version of the scout

sends out eyes to check around

and illuminates enemies when found

[forest horizon]

sends out mini floating pyramids

so epic

[craggy summit]

most likely, would be weird of them to keep it exclusive to that particular website

[obtuse surge]

baby reactor

big hype

[turbid cliff]

🤔

[craggy summit]

warden isn't that rundown 2's stuff?

[turbid cliff]

what's that link leading to

[forest horizon]

pr kit for r2

[turbid cliff]

i mean that's where it took me but

why then

[forest horizon]

dunno