gtfo-spoiler-chat

[raven flare]

oh

[misty ember]

It is though

[real void]

how

[raven flare]

i mean kinda in the same way a mother is

[earnest minnow]

DOUBLE MELEE

[real void]

There is no c-foam grenades in the level

[earnest minnow]

A samdown favourite

[misty ember]

Double melee hammer in back

[real void]

._.

[earnest minnow]

I would recommend taking foam

[raven flare]

it takes pretty good coordination with ur team kdmsm

[real void]

we play with 2 bots kinda hard yk

[raven flare]

but yeah foam is the easiest

or shooting it

[earnest minnow]

If you can just shoot the scout and hold on the staircase

[real void]

we did not have a sniper/ hel rifle or scattergun in the attempt

[misty ember]

You can foam so much on level

[misty ember]

Shotgun/hi cal/bc works too

[real void]

But it would not be that bad if it was not surounded by 5 BIG CHARGERS AND 3HYBRIDS

[misty ember]

Or wait am I tripped

[earnest minnow]

I would recommend taking a scattergun anyway on that level

[real void]

did not know that

[misty ember]

Nah I shouldn't

[misty ember]

*on any level

[real void]

ye i used it for the entire r3

[earnest minnow]

You can kill charger scout with short rifle 🤡

[real void]

atleast first time getting past that first mother in 7 att

[misty ember]

But at what cost

[earnest minnow]

Like 80% of my health

[raven flare]

and ur fingers

[misty ember]

Imagine you would have scattergun

[olive shoal]

would you make a pact with the devil to make your short rifle do more damage but it drains your health everytime you shoot

[raven flare]

1% for a 10 dmg bullet

mhh

[olive shoal]

goes hard

[earnest minnow]

Huge

Can you go down from it?

[olive shoal]

Yes

[earnest minnow]

Or is it like infection

[prisma zodiac]

is this the time when regen speed becomes a good booster?

[olive shoal]

don’t be greedy team

[earnest minnow]

Rip

[olive shoal]

Yes

[earnest minnow]

HOLY REGEN SPEED

[misty ember]

We already have demon shotgun and demon carbine in Fatal Experiment 2, but you can't die from them

[earnest minnow]

I’m farming it rn

[barren sierra]

imagine being desync and mag dumping before the damage catches up lmao

[real void]

Maybe would have beating it then

[earnest minnow]

Aussie ping moment

Or as hani says Australian goober ping

Still hate that guy

[olive shoal]

hani guide

[misty ember]

"guys I'm gonna kill everything just revive me after"

[earnest minnow]

This family behind me

DOESNT STFU

Yep I’m bombing the plane

[tropic pollen]

Wow congrats
When you bomb a plane you will remember it for the rest of your (short) life

[earnest minnow]

Lesgo

[winter wharf]

hate that discord

[misty ember]

I hate all discord

[livid heath]

Wow you hate me too?

[misty ember]

🆗

[bold widget]

Where is simon

I wanna ping simon vilkund

Simon where are you

[earnest minnow]

Ask him for his number

[real void]

First Overload and Prisoner Efficiency : )

[misty ember]

Nice, now complete everything else

[real void]

Were busy doing that

[real void]

Stupid reactor secondary with a mother

[prisma zodiac]

Host with scattergun
Gj tho

[narrow gulch]

host scatter better on levels where you dont kill bosses...

[deft kiln]

It has a mom
Chill

The r4 sleeping mom

[narrow gulch]

that you dont kill

I worded it correctly

[deft kiln]

no must kill

[prisma zodiac]

must

Otherwise no fun

[deft kiln]

It is in the long kite room

You wouldn’t want a mom up while long kite

[winter wharf]

no more 5 burst = no more 1 mag mom :(

[prisma zodiac]

Well
You still 1 mag mom
Just slower

[winter wharf]

you 1 mag mom but it takes 30 seconds and dancing around an entire baby wave

not worth

[narrow gulch]

isnt it like

technically faster

now

or roughly the same

actually ig 15 shot with 5 burst is also easier now as host

[prisma zodiac]

O.o

[narrow gulch]

that was incorrect

its still not that bad tho

[prisma zodiac]

well ye

prob 3rd best mom option

maybe 2nd

tho the gap to 1st is commically large anyhow

[winter wharf]

1 is scatter, 2 is pump shotty?

[late nebula]

3rd best option: short rifle

[real void]

It worked so me no care rn

also just:

(we dont talk about b2)

[finite locust]

nice surprise mother in 245 C

[livid heath]

Yay

[proud cloud]

gg

[livid heath]

Strafe for more clears!

Make your way down to E1

[proud cloud]

GTFO truly is the only game where someone I don't know could simply finish one level

And I would go "oh shit, nice!!"

[real void]

: )

[finite locust]

: D

[proud cloud]

gg to you too! I assume you're the other one on the screen

[finite locust]

yup

[prisma zodiac]

basically everything can work in this game

[real void]

u right

[proud cloud]

not if I'm the one operating it

kek

[warm prism]

fuck r4b2 me n all my homies hate r4b2

[astral ferry]

r4b2 is a great level :(

r4b1 is the real ass level

fog + giant stealth?

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[prisma zodiac]

stealth? Whats that

[astral ferry]

i hate speedrunners

all they know is shoot, read logs, and die

[real void]

Not when you do the secondary

[misty ember]

I hate speedrunners

[prisma zodiac]

Secondary is what makes it less slow

[real void]

I enjoy slow

[misty ember]

All they know is how to try to force you into their cult

[real void]

Instead of getting murdered 20 times before I beat it

[prisma zodiac]

playing faster doesnt rly mean dying more

[outer jacinth]

20 deaths at 30 minutes is way better than 5 deaths at 2 hours.

[real void]

When your a beginner it does

[real void]

But when the mission is fast and still takes 1 hour it kinda changes that

[prisma zodiac]

Playing faster can also make you learn faster
In the end it depends on how a player observes for this

[outer jacinth]

1 hour is like short imo, even on a timed mission

[real void]

It mostly trains being able to act fast and stay calm. Atleast for me

[prisma zodiac]

the good thing about this game is that you can generally choose your speed

Just dont choose crouch walking sim

[misty ember]

If you wipe faster you can restart faster

[real void]

Not doing that anymore : )

Kinda always walk niw

Now

[prisma zodiac]

the big question

How long should r1a1 take with prior knowledge of the level

you want to get it done, not explore

[misty ember]

2 days

[prisma zodiac]

[real void]

I did it in 9 minutes 56 sec

Fastest time

So I say around 10 min

[warm prism]

the fog in r4b2 is way worse

[outer jacinth]

15 minutes if you're chilling

[prisma zodiac]

sub 10, dingdingding

the level can be crouch walked completely in under 6min

[warm prism]

usually takes me like 15min

[astral ferry]

you only interact with it for like 5 minutes

[warm prism]

if we're rushing it a bit we can get sub 10

[prisma zodiac]

anything above 10 is people chilling their ass off

[warm prism]

not if your pubs are idiots and put the cells in early

[prisma zodiac]

which is very much fine dont get me wrong

[real void]

Or there not speedrunning

[warm prism]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-gif-22328611

[prisma zodiac]

but the level itself is <10 min by itself

[low wind]

As long as I make it take because if I'm doing R1A1 I'm doing it and fucking with my friends who just got into GTFO

[prisma zodiac]

i feel like if everyone is crouched for the whole run thats kinda contrary to speedrunning

[low wind]

I will send them on wild goose chases

[prisma zodiac]

Thats different tho

You are letting them explore and learn

If you just want a clear and know the level

people have argued its a 25+ min level for that

Which is crazy

[real void]

Eventually I just want to beat it don't care how long it takes. (Except A missions with just a main we gotta go fast on them)

[warm prism]

no guys you dont udnerstand we have to take this loot path

[low wind]

Nah I think it's 25 minutes if you're like, showing people things at a moderate pace ngl

[real void]

First time beating it with my bro: 40 min

Lol

[prisma zodiac]

.

^

^

[real void]

👍

[misty ember]

We should stay together, don't go in any rooms without my permission, so I can think of a strategy for our survival, I don't know what to do, this game sucks, no ammo, no health, the game doesn't have clear objective.....

[outer jacinth]

this is true but you should see some of the people i play with

[prisma zodiac]

ive played with lots of people

tbh theres a time a level should be done in with knowledge and a time a level takes without on average

Say R1A1
<10 for 1st
15-60 (depending on how new the players are)

[solemn wigeon]

How was the last day of DoW

[prisma zodiac]

I got me jacket

They send a ton of merch into the crowd

[outer jacinth]

i think my first clear was 45 and my first solo of it was like 55

it would have been way faster if i just went turret instead of trying to force foam to work

[astral ferry]

isn't foam r1a1 solo easier tho and thus "consistently" faster

[narrow gulch]

yes

[prisma zodiac]

cheesy as hell tbf

[outer jacinth]

might be but poor shooting means dying and my shooting was poor 2 months ago (it's still shit)

[prisma zodiac]

such a funny strat

[astral ferry]

running duos should help with your aim, so no worries

it's crazy how much less enemies i have to shoot in 4 people

[prisma zodiac]

also idk whether id call it consistently faster unless they person is at the line of being unable to solo it

[prisma zodiac]

sometimes no shooting is necessary

Mix of tools + other guns

its so weird

[outer jacinth]

it's crazy how much less enemies i have to shoot when 2 people

(is how it feels at least)

[astral ferry]

really?

guess the enemies are just dying faster lol

[outer jacinth]

fewer people = less overkill = less shooting

[astral ferry]

i tab-out during 4 people shoot outs anyway

[winter wharf]

beth coded

[astral ferry]

gtfo gamesense is knowing what enemies people are gonna shoot

and actively shooting the ones people aren't gonna shoot

[prisma zodiac]

voxy with the pub metavision

[astral ferry]

but the reality is that

people don't shoot anything

[prisma zodiac]

tho tbh
Its hilarious how some pubs with mhs will shoot smalls 30 meters away instead of the close ones

[astral ferry]

mg dumping into pmom :(

[outer jacinth]

yes, i have 0 faith people will shoot anything because when i don't shoot the enemies they eat all the med

in duos you just shoot all you can and it's enough to hold off the enemies
tbh sometimes that's too much shooting as well

the more i play duos the more i think that's actually what the game is balanced around

[astral ferry]

oh my god you're making the realization that every duo player makes

[outer jacinth]

yes

[deft kiln]

The game is designed for two players

[astral ferry]

yeah how likely is it for you to convince 3 other people to play the game with you

surely they balanced the game for duo for that reason alone

[winter wharf]

duo is cute, I keep saying about finding someone for r4e1 duo but then I never do it

[prisma zodiac]

the copium is high in this one

(Not goat, well actually goat too)

[livid heath]

Wow you hate eva too?

[solemn wigeon]

Yeah. I'm actually his biggest hater

[livid heath]

You have merch already

Aaaaaa this is not good

[outer jacinth]

when i stop being bad ill run it with you but that'll be a few months

[astral ferry]

omg date night with goat

[outer jacinth]

i should begin by beating it normally but im not convinced duos is significantly harder than 4p anyways

[prisma zodiac]

[outer jacinth]

ok so like

when do you need the firepower of 4p

in the entire game

[warm prism]

i mean

just because the firepower of one or two people is enough

doesnt mean that having double that isnt helpful

[prisma zodiac]

also theres lots if moment where covering reloads makes it extremely less stressfull

In a way its like saying since you can solo melee a giant why would 4 man be easier

[solemn wigeon]

Timing reloads is not only effective but fun

[outer jacinth]

reload covering i can buy, or situations in which you need to carry items (fog turbines etc)

and ig it speeds up alarm scans

[astral ferry]

surges in general is just when having 4 people is nice

though it matters less when hel shotgun exists

[warm prism]

its possible with a smaller party

[solemn wigeon]

R2e1 duo is still an experience

[warm prism]

but having more guns and more bodies makes it substantially easier

[warm prism]

do you just say fuck the turbine and eat fog?

[solemn wigeon]

Nah you gotta do it as intended

[prisma zodiac]

also yes
This game is balanced around 4 players

[warm prism]

what, you go back and forth?

[prisma zodiac]

shocker i know

[warm prism]

or leapfrog it

[solemn wigeon]

Yes

Leapfrog

[outer jacinth]

i want to run it if anyone is interested dm/ping whenever (im cet timezone)

[astral ferry]

there's a dedicated duo server if you want

not particularly active, but you might find people there

[outer jacinth]

would people be willing to put up with someone not great there is it all vets or

[astral ferry]

#hc-other message

if you're honest about your experience, most people wouldn't mind

[outer jacinth]

sounds good ill give it a try thanks

[solemn wigeon]

Still in awe at the awesome gamescom trailer shown for DoW

[prisma zodiac]

imagine not seeing that crazy footage in person

Life changing

[astral ferry]

@warm prism

[warm prism]

oh my FUCKING god

[astral ferry]

HAHAH

[warm prism]

why do the sleepers get to see us perfectly

we should be able to like camoflauge

all our fuckin clothes are the same color as the rock

[astral ferry]

don't they smell us

gotta ask frosssssstttyyyyy

[warm prism]

im pretty sure they psionically detect us

they know exactly where we are depsite the fact that none of them have eyes or noses

and they continue to detect us after their body parts that would contain those things are blown off

[astral ferry]

pretty sure they have eyes tho?

[warm prism]

the biters?

[astral ferry]

let me find a pic

[warm prism]

ik the shooters have like a human face under the bubonic plague bullshit

but it looks pretty vestigial

[warm prism]

oh holy shit

[warm prism]

i never noticed that

[astral ferry]

oh yeah you should see chargers

[warm prism]

oh i have.

they're mega fucked up

one of the reasons i liked bringing pdw lmao

could ge ta nice good look at the body horror

good stuff

[astral ferry]

yeah the designs go hard

what a cutie~~

[warm prism]

i kinda wish the devs did a bit more with the body horror

moms and dogs and chargers are all fucked up and i love it

but i feel like they could have done more

most of the enemies are pretty much human with a couple bits messed with

[astral ferry]

yeah enemy variety is a big rip in this game

[warm prism]

80% of what you face has a giant mouth for a face

which is super cool, dont get me wrong

i love the concept

its just like. the only thing messed up about them

and it gets old when thats most of what yo usee

[astral ferry]

yeah where are my mobs with exposed ribs

[raven flare]

i feel like gtfo could've been exploited more but if defo has a lot of good designs on what it has now
like u could blame shadows for being reskins but i think the sole idea it's creative
u could blame giants but towering enemies are cool
and idk what else to blame tbh cause chargers have good design flyers minibosses

[misty ember]

So we should have giants generators in main game?

[warm prism]

i wanna see necromorphs in gtfo >:(

[warm prism]

no the enemy designs are phenomenal

i love what they did with them

i just wish they leaned into it a liiiittle bit more

this virus/parasite/whatever and what it does to hosts is so cool and i wish they explored it a bit more

i keep comparing it to dead space but thats the best example i can think of lmao
shit like infectors and leapers, that stuff is barely recognizably human

[astral ferry]

yeah but the great part about those designs is that if you look hard enough

you can tell what body parts they're made up of

[warm prism]

oh yeah you can

i love the detail of the infector's probiscis being the spine

so cool

idk i just feel like they could have made the enemies even more fucked up
but what the game has is phenomenal

obviously

ive got the playtime to back up that opinion lmao

[astral ferry]

the striker / shooter designs are definitely unique for sure

it's not really a wonder why they plaster it all over the game's marketing

[misty ember]

If only we had cat girls.....

[astral ferry]

actually i'm pretty sure they referenced the striker design from "the thing"

[warm prism]

getting a closeup shot of a shooter and seeing the human face under the skin was dope

love that shit

[raven flare]

i seen that critique but i think the point of gtfo is partially to not be so obvious on what is it
like designs u could think it's zombies a plague aliens [despite the human form] or whatever else
i feel like if they really went infectious and stuff it would be a lil obvios and depending on how it's done also make it overcomplicated
i think a big part of the appeal also it's how simple but horrible are

and if u do more u end up with designs like Still wakes the deep, good but fucking terrible to look at so many details

[astral ferry]

do you know about the human face on mom?

[warm prism]

oh yeah

that ones cool too

mom in general is awesome

i love when bipdeal creatures get fucked up enough that they become quadrupeds raaaaah

[raven flare]

cheetas towards u

[warm prism]

no its very effective

and with the few enemies they really went the distance on its dope

[astral ferry]

yeah the mom design is so fucking rad

[warm prism]

seeing a dog in good light for the first time was awesome

big mom too

[astral ferry]

idk about tank

[warm prism]

tanks i think are cool

[astral ferry]

tank is kinda ehh compare to mom

[warm prism]

they're still humanoid but if you get a good look at them its still dope

and also they have the coolest sounds in the game

so they get a pass

[raven flare]

i think tank is a lil basic but still cool

[astral ferry]

angry elephant

[raven flare]

even more so on execution

[warm prism]

like the triple head is awesome

[raven flare]

yeah the three tongues it's really cool design

[warm prism]

and the deep bassy wave roar

good shit

[astral ferry]

do you think the nightmare designs are good?

i forgot they existed lowkey

[misty ember]

Except potato

[raven flare]

i think they are very effective for how they seem so outerwordly

like the tentacles and tumors really give them another vibe

[astral ferry]

i need a closer look on the potato, i can't tell what it is really

[raven flare]

but also they are only in one rundown so

[misty ember]

Potato is bruh in visual

[raven flare]

also the potato is really funny in my opinion but yeah basic

it's a very funny design

[misty ember]

A giant with potato around it

[astral ferry]

i wish the nightmare design alluded to something greater

like the creatures are evolving towards something

[raven flare]

if potato would've been invisioned to be a joke enemy [kinda how it is now] i'd get the design 100%
but also seems to be designed for more levels and it's weird ksks

[warm prism]

potato is fun

[raven flare]

u know i would've liked a flyer-sleeper mix

[warm prism]

idk

[raven flare]

cause nightmares with the tentacles give that vibe

but a mouth wouldve been cool

[misty ember]

Giant generator

[warm prism]

when i compare it to like, dead space
the enemies in that game i feel like have a distinct purpose

[astral ferry]

i assumed the tentacles are coming from the parasite

[raven flare]

that's a gen cluster smh

[warm prism]

like human bodies are just lumps of biomass that the virus needs to evolve into efficient killing machines

[raven flare]

i mean the snatcher ones from the shooters kinda but the strikers seem more flyer like

[astral ferry]

lore wise, the enemies fulfill a role in the hive

[warm prism]

how do you do that? you calcify the skin, bring out the bones as blade weapons, and soup up their running skills

[misty ember]

No that's a sleeper on top of flyer that fly and spawn small explosive giants

[warm prism]

in this game i see a lot of that, but potatoman idk

how would getting rid of the arms do that lmao

[warm prism]

spider jockey

[astral ferry]

lmaoo

baby flyer riding a baby striker

[raven flare]

u know
it would've been really funny if it just ran to u and tried to crush u or something, like if ur bulled towards u and dealt damage like that

and if it touched during the attack, 30/40%

[warm prism]

if it had some sort of charge attack that did like knockback

[raven flare]

otherwise u can touch it all u want

[warm prism]

but you could stagger it out of it

[warm prism]

did you say that backwards

[astral ferry]

the opposite of that doesn't seem practical

[raven flare]

yeah like it does a scream, it runs to u, and if u get touched 40% but u can stagger it with X damage

[warm prism]

if the flyer is the one riding then they cant fly presumably

[astral ferry]

like what is a baby striker gonna do on top of a flyer

[warm prism]

scream

[misty ember]

Dance

[raven flare]

grab the tentacles and FIUMMM

[warm prism]

swing the flyer around and throw it like a discus

[raven flare]

like an attack airplane

[astral ferry]

at least if the flyer is riding the striker, the flyer can still shoot stuff

smh you guys aren't thinking in game design

[warm prism]

nah the flyer is like a troop carrier

it flies in and drops off the babies

insertion

[raven flare]

the flyer is like a pterodactyl and the baby controls it's movements

[misty ember]

still waiting for GTFO flyer volleyball edition

[astral ferry]

i love popping balloons

[raven flare]

the flyer death animation is like unironically really cool and funny

the fact they just explode

10/10

[misty ember]

The fact they just come say hi and leave through walls is 10/10

[astral ferry]

no flyer corpses :(

[raven flare]

they would block the vision so hard on a wave tho
or on r8e2 like pile up at the bottom lol

[warm prism]

sleeping flyers when

[raven flare]

of that room

[raven flare]

so true

flyer scouts when

[warm prism]

honestly? i was kinda sad they didnt put any sleeping doggos in r8

iirc they have like sleeping sounds/animations in the files, right?

[misty ember]

Already in modded

[raven flare]

thank god u have occlusion to fix that issue

[raven flare]

yeah

[astral ferry]

bugged af tho

[raven flare]

i kno i kno

[misty ember]

I know you know, crasher of my lobby <3

[raven flare]

uwu

[warm prism]

i should play modded at some point

i need to finish vanilla

[raven flare]

do smh

u need to play occlusion

[warm prism]

im workin on it

my friends dont wanna play r4e1 >:(

[raven flare]

work harder not smarter

:[

[misty ember]

Tie them up and put them in your basement and force them to play

Why everyone so democratic and giving friends a choice to not play?

[astral ferry]

that's how you lose friends

[warm prism]

im tryign

[astral ferry]

and making friends in this game is the hardest thing ever

[warm prism]

half our squad is out of commission

one of em broke their pc adn the other moved into an apartment with shit wifi

[misty ember]

I've made a few because of it

[warm prism]

speak for yourself ive met lots of cool people

and lots of uncool people

but we can focus on the cool people

[misty ember]

If you lose them then they would have betrayed you in future, and wouldn't follow you to conquer the world

[astral ferry]

how am i suppose to interpret

[misty ember]

I just love how it looks

[astral ferry]

[misty ember]

Like look at it, it's so nice and positive

[winter wharf]

oh no

[real void]

First solo 🎉 (I know its the easiest to solo mission but let me be proud of myself)

[half heart]

whats that command to get all equipables to pop up in the terminal again? list e_37 something

its not res there was a shorter one

[raven flare]

LIST U E_X

U is a filter that shows everything good

[half heart]

OH it was u

[raven flare]

like resources, objective items etc etc

[half heart]

thank you

[raven flare]

yeh it ok

[real void]

did not know that one yet

[raven flare]

always learning something new

[real void]

(I actually just learned today the TAB shortcut lol)

[nocturne flax]

whats with the "the final chapter" trailer

[astral ferry]

probs for gamescom

[misty ember]

Nothing, you can rest more dragon

[nocturne flax]

😪💤💤

[nocturne flax]

Wish it was some extra level or sum

[misty ember]

Sadly no

[nocturne flax]

Hit us with a good r3e1

[misty ember]

Only modded hit us

[nocturne flax]

They release a trailer called "the final mono build"

Everybody in ums goes into shock

[proud cloud]

oh yeah that's just completion

works in actual terminals as well

over the year, tabbing might have saved me an hour or two of typing

[velvet linden]

nerd

[warm prism]

💯

[real void]

2nd solo : )

[chilly prairie]

Noice

[late nebula]

He is a legend

[lusty marten]

im playing R8B4 rn, was schaeffer the one to send the mother or what?

[prisma zodiac]

o.O

uuh, no?

[misty ember]

Schaeffer birthed the mother itself

[lusty marten]

oh ok, I asked cuz he was angry we were doing stuff then a mother spawned

[narrow gulch]

schaeffer would send a mother after us

[lusty marten]

he would

[olive shoal]

prisoners

[plain saddle]

New canon accepted

[olive shoal]

you should wait until you see the Schaeffer boss fight

Been stuck on phase 2 for a while

[winter wharf]

im waiting until someone makes a guide on steam to attempt that fight

[raven flare]

he would but he not control sleepers

[solemn wigeon]

There's a phase 2?

[winter pewter]

Schaeffer elden ring boss

imagine

R8E3

[olive sky]

Shaeffer Lord of frenzied Flame Nuke

[proud cloud]

The Drowned

[tropic pollen]

lord of frenzied pipe

[winter pewter]

Lord of buckets

[livid heath]

The lord of incoming silk songs

[warm prism]

Schaeffer: Lord of the Bucket

[bold patrol]

Wields the reactor rod

[wise musk]

So what could be in store for alt Woods and co if they somehow magically survive r8e1? Other than them just keep fighting continuously.
.
Considering Schaefer and the Warden gone my head canon assumed they'll just gonna be put into a HSU forever since nothing commandeer the system anymore🤔🤔🤔

[tropic pollen]

Well, thats assuming biocom decides its worth even extracting them

and not just „fuck you all, you’re useless anyway”

[wise musk]

Oh yeah that's true😣

[solemn wigeon]

have you played the second half of R8

[tropic pollen]

I mean wether they have or not doesnt rly affect the question tho?

[solemn wigeon]

It does for purposes of spoiling the lore

[tropic pollen]

…how would an answer to the question spoil the lore tho?

like

unless you were to explain why alt team ended up like that (which is irrelevant to the question), no answer should rly spoil shit

[solemn wigeon]

Well the answer is that the Warden program is still active, granted we never see the burning hellscape that presumably appears moments after the end of the mission, but they would just be put back to work again in a different part of the facility in an attempt to restart the objective of the warden

[tropic pollen]

Well
Thats debatable

considering the E1 completion screen calls the prisoners „resources” which is a terms used by biocom

and the whole „warden defense systems disabled” message

so it is possible the warden game ended itself

[winter wharf]

Or it decided not to waste resources on defending the indefensible?

[solemn wigeon]

The warden defence systems were defending KDS Deep

[tropic pollen]

Im not saying the warden wouldnt leave us to die (it 100% would), im saying that the warden was explicitly said to call us „prisoners” and not „resources” like biocom did

[solemn wigeon]

If warden/biocom had been destroyed, we wouldn't get such messages like "resources expended" or "signal lost"

[tropic pollen]

ehhh maybe
Its all theorizing

[tropic pollen]

atleast biocom survives, thats certain

im only questioning wether the warden does too

[solemn wigeon]

There's a lot we'll never know

[winter wharf]

Wasn't there the thing of it figured out that not calling them prisoners led to increased performance? Though I'm not sure if that was biocom or warden

[prisma zodiac]

wasnt it specifically calling us prisoners the way it increased

[winter wharf]

Oh right yea

Got it the wrong way around

Prisoners implies some amount of agency and chance at freedom

[kind swan]

I know I'm typically a pub player.

[astral ferry]

you prisoner

[kind swan]

But where the hell are these other pubs getting that I'm a "speedrunner" / "top player" shit from

[astral ferry]

rats in a cage

[astral ferry]

they watched one guide video and now they're elite players

[kind swan]

One guy kept calling me like a D1 player or smth

[astral ferry]

you are one though

[kind swan]

(It's ironic because I'm washed)

[astral ferry]

start putting in the hours kiddo

maybe you can be an E1 player like me

[kind swan]

Gotta be like Hange go from 2k hours to 4k hours within 6-7 months

[winter wharf]

Your name is coloured

Or community gaslighting

[kind swan]

I haven't been using it in pubs as of late.

[astral ferry]

bro has more hours than me 😭

I've been playing since og r4 too

[winter wharf]

Do hours even matter at this point

[astral ferry]

yeah

[winter wharf]

Like as long as you've reached a certain skill threshold it's mostly a measure of how much time you've wasted away

[kind swan]

It's more a joke about how Hange gained a lot in half a year

[winter wharf]

Should see a dietician about that if it's a problem

Unless it's gym gains

[kind swan]

Hange doesn't play 12hrs a day anymore tho so it's slowed

Last time he did 12hrs was when playing Project eternal with Frosty and 2 others

[astral ferry]

12 hrs with frosty? my god....

[kind swan]

All I remember from checking in Frosty's stream every now and then

Was Frosty blasting the mini gun

[astral ferry]

what was his gtfo rank then

I bet he's r5e1 tiered

[kind swan]

All I know is that I've played a pub or 2 with them awhile back like maybe a year

I really am a pub player to be getting recognized years later

[astral ferry]

congratulations

[kind swan]

[livid heath]

Real

[stark rune]

frosty afks on the game for real

its his soda dungeon 2 instinct

[low wind]

Not a waste if you enjoy it ngl

[misty ember]

But what if you are trapped in game and should play it? What if you're being held as hostage forced to play it?

[winter pewter]

better than working 9-5 tbh

[low wind]

Whoever is holding you hostage forcing you to play games has decent taste ngl

They could be forcing you to review Ubisoft games as they come out or something

[misty ember]

If I would be forced to play old ubisoft games I would do it voluntary

[low wind]

I would too, anything from like AC Black Flag and earlier

[proud cloud]

I will never get this

Are y'all coworkers some kind of monsters or what's the deal here

[warm prism]

late stage capitalistic hell

i hate it here

[astral ferry]

is it a surprise that people hate their jobs

[proud cloud]

😭 7h trapped in the same game because the group doesn't wanna give up is like some kind of torture Geneva forbade

[warm prism]

i suppose ive never been in that situation

but i can attest that for the most part, working sucks

[proud cloud]

find a better job m8

[warm prism]

and i could see how someone would prefer to get stuck in a video game than have to deal with that 8 hours a day 5 days a week for the rest of their life

[warm prism]

it aint that fuckin simple

i mean, maybe in france, i cant speak to that

[winter pewter]

i mean i work for 2 days

[warm prism]

but in america the job climate is atrocious

[winter pewter]

but i know others work 9-5

[proud cloud]

as opposed to stuck on a videogame 8 hours a day 5 days a week for the rest of their life

there's only so much content one can go through 😭

[warm prism]

job requirement creep gets worse every day, college is becoming less and less affordable, prices are rising faster than wages, etc.

[warm prism]

I WILL PLAY THROUGH SUBNAUTICA FOR THE 27TH TIME AND I WILL ENJOY IT

[proud cloud]

I present you: 1575h of GTFO per year

[warm prism]

👍

[proud cloud]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[warm prism]

if im gonna waste my life away id rather do it playing one of my favorite games than selling my labor for the profit of ceos

[warm prism]

SEEK FLUID INTAKE

[astral ferry]

bottled water tierlist

[proud cloud]

66k hours of GTFO

I do not even

[warm prism]

light work

[proud cloud]

Wanna imagine what one such person might look like

I mean I do

But in a morbid curiosity way

😭

[warm prism]

jynxzi

[proud cloud]

who

[proud cloud]

that could be your mom I'd have no idea m8

[warm prism]

my mom doesnt have that much of a headset dent

idk you're talking to me on a box that has the sum total knowledge of humanity on it

look it up

[proud cloud]

man

i ain't looking up shit

I google

I see it's youtuber/streamer

But I ain't ganna look for the lore

To even come remotely close to understand the joke

[warm prism]

theres not a lot beyond that

the joke is the headset dent

[proud cloud]

TIL "headset dent"

[kind swan]

[nocturne flax]

I wanna thank simon for making the best stealth music in gtfo

Stealth tension #3 and max tension its so good

🙏

[earnest minnow]

Simon prolly a logic user

[stone harbor]

I still play GTFO without music

[real moss]

yes but you are probably listening to "Funiculi Funicula" while playing

so that's understandable

[earnest minnow]

Should be listening to Femboy Talks You To Sleep ASMR

[heavy siren]

Is that a real thing

[earnest minnow]

Probably

[quiet stone]

Wait until you hear the unused GTFO intro expedition theme that never made it to the game. A true waste.

[buoyant badger]

Found an interesting lore bit

NATO canonically disbands in 2050's

I pity humanity in GTFO timeline, for once its not their fault they got wiped out

[real moss]

It is tho

Don't dig into the dino wipe crater

Wise lesson

[buoyant badger]

Dont put it on some minning company as representative of humanity

[real moss]

I put it on corporate greed

[buoyant badger]

How about we blame it on the aliens who carried aboard a species wiping virus

Then crashed in like one of the few planets that has life

[livid heath]

Theoretically its not the aliens at all

Its a meteor

[real moss]

Nah. Science projects get a pass.

[livid heath]

Which did have their space ship on it

If it did carry a virus

We wouldnt even have what i love “warp gate”

You should go in lore and ask frostty on this matter

[buoyant badger]

Isnt our crater covered irl?

[livid heath]

Covered? No

[buoyant badger]

Like its filled in by an ocean

[livid heath]

Buried deep

Discovered by mining operations

If you care to listen to those audio logs

[buoyant badger]

Its that why I struggle to find actual pics?

[livid heath]

Lets just say it was dozen of years before

So no actual visual inputs are left

The hearsay’s are here for that

[real moss]

The gulf of Mexico is the crater.

Recognizable shape and all

But they digged at a specific place at Chixculub or whatever the name is

[raven flare]

u can only rlly see the crater on satelital pics but it's so big and old that there isn't really a defined line that u can see when u walk up to it

like in cartoons

[prisma zodiac]

R7D1 certainly is a level

where you dont even need the baby

[raven flare]

what kind of funny skips r u cookin

[outer scaffold]

You mean that skip you made a video on

Or a new one

[astral ferry]

r7d1 is so peak

[livid heath]

CHAIR

https://tenor.com/view/chair-gif-22197424

[raven flare]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-chair-spin-spinning-chair-foldable-chair-gif-27635879

[livid heath]

Also did i mention you have really cute drawing skills

[raven flare]

thenk chu

patpat

[livid heath]

[prisma zodiac]

kek

[prisma zodiac]

sub 8 r7d1

if we could find 1 more skip its like sub 6

[raven flare]

extremely funny skips

i'm sure there's some way to like cancel out
the level :]

like skip it

yes

[prisma zodiac]

youd be surprised

we are gonna try and get the sub 8 tmrw

atm its 8:26 with like 40 sec of time save due to mistakes

but good rng

[raven flare]

u know maybe this is a stupid sentence but

r7d1 has always gotten a lot of shit, for obvious reasons

[kind swan]

Is this with or without med/disinfect?

[raven flare]

but i don't wanna say it has grown on peoples hearts
but i think on some peoples hearts

[kind swan]

Sorry my goober brain

Read r8d1

[raven flare]

oopsie

wrong level

teehee

[prisma zodiac]

r7d1 with this is actually so funny

youll see

hopefully tmrw

[raven flare]

hopefully the no baby skip gets explained cause it seems fuckinf nuts

lol

[prisma zodiac]

once we get a neat run ill upload and explain

[kind swan]

Is this gonna be the first GTFO Replay video?

[prisma zodiac]

I cant

Since speedrun

tho ngl

It would probably look funnyfrom replay perspective

[kind swan]

Sadge but I forgor

No mods in speedruns

[olive shoal]

I so wish we could use replay mod man

it’s so fucking good

[narrow gulch]

when do we enter the reject src arc

[winter wharf]

Honestly, I've already enough reasons to do so

[prisma zodiac]

?

also holy shit, main only r8e2 might be a thing

not that its very easy...

[rocky zodiac]

??? i thought it was compulsory

[daring pilot]

bug free game

[prisma zodiac]

you can skip the sec door

its just uuh

very much a glitch

and incredibly hard

we are routing rn

we found the start and ending of the path

[daring pilot]

Wait a fucking second

Does that mean you can do no objectives?

[prisma zodiac]

i dont think so

[daring pilot]

Because of the Secondary only bug?

[prisma zodiac]

dont you need to kill kraken

[daring pilot]

If you could skip sec…

[daring pilot]

No idea

[prisma zodiac]

but yea what im doing rn is skipping sec

[rocky zodiac]

i have like 3-4 r8e2 clears but i have never thought about skipping sec

i thought it was impossible

[daring pilot]

Skipping main is

So why not sec tbh

I really hope 0 objectives is possible

that’d be hilarious

[rocky zodiac]

u lazy

[daring pilot]

you know about sec only, right?

Clear only shows secondary completion

not main

Idk how it’s done

[rocky zodiac]

is that a og r4b3 bug

i have seen people glitching through door

skipping objectives

oh wait nvm

they need to do objectives so that the extract scan activates

bruh my memory malfuntioned

[daring pilot]

That’s the point

E2 has no extract scan

it just ends

Apparently you can bug it out to where main never actually registers as complete

[prisma zodiac]

only with the game bugging out no?
afaik you cant actually skip main

[daring pilot]

Ok but like

Not cheating

[prisma zodiac]

?

huh

[prisma zodiac]

iirc wasnt that just an issue in registering the main clear even tho it happened

just like people not getting r8b4 sec clears even tho they did everything

[daring pilot]

Yeah that’s from how objectives work with emptys

[prisma zodiac]

ok ye you can do r8e2 without secondary

[prisma zodiac]

@daring pilot it autocompletes main

you can skip kraken tho

LOL

[narrow gulch]

replay and damage indicator would go so hard for basically every speed

[prisma zodiac]

its honestly a great mod for modded speeds

idk if cactus put it on the list

[daring pilot]

fuck

[midnight basin]

doesn't replay mod issue some concerns when it comes to cheating? from what I know the live feature can be disruptive

[narrow gulch]

and

[astral ferry]

reject src

return to unmoderated, unorganized speedrunning

[kind swan]

Imean you could use replay mod for practice runs couldn't you?

albeit if you make a pb/wr it wouldn't count

[wanton stump]

u can see the live feed so u can just see where all the items are

[narrow gulch]

Yeah, I'd tend to agree that knowing the locations of items beforehand is a bit antithetical to speedrunning

[pseudo lily]

if you run out of time before or while fighting the kraken in r8e2, killing it stops all waves bc there’s a type 10 event on boss death

but skipping it entirely would prob be faster

[winter wharf]

I did originally bring up that remote viewing on replay mod could be used for the purpose of finding items

and i believe some functionality was added that sends a message/alert in chat when remote viewing is in use

[kind swan]

This aspect I did not know about-

[raven flare]

what's an event 10?

[pseudo lily]

https://dudewipes.com/cdn/shop/articles/gigachad.jpg?v=1667928905&width=1024

[raven flare]

a

[warm prism]

b

[wanton stump]

Nope

Only when u press some button to integrate, but u dont even need to do that because it can still view live anyways and searching for items doesnt require live feed

[prisma zodiac]

anyone down for a pacifist r8e2? :^)

[ripe void]

the what

[prisma zodiac]

@ripe void the pacifist r8e2

[ripe void]

wack

[tame folio]

elaborate

[prisma zodiac]

We refuse to hurt any of the poor lil buggers

[prisma zodiac]

You dont hurt/kill any enemies

[tame folio]

it's joever

[ripe void]

that is not me so I will not be participating

[tame folio]

me and sneaking dont go well together

[prisma zodiac]

[ripe void]

jokes aside seems interesting

[tame folio]

the urge to not trigger room, impossible

[prisma zodiac]

We just realized that its possible due to the newly found out of bounds skip

[ripe void]

ah

[prisma zodiac]

we found a reliable path

its hilarious

Def not smth for pubs tho

💀

[tame folio]

pubbing r8e2 is a comedy though

[livid heath]

stream when?

[prisma zodiac]

Evening

[livid heath]

nice

[olive sky]

Tomorrow, right?

[solemn wigeon]

I'm listening

[livid heath]

Bro leaving me

[olive sky]

I May have time for some HD2 tho

[olive sky]

I am still at the First aid course tho

So only in like 3 hours

[proud cloud]

I say let em die, methinks

That took like what, 4 seconds?

[low wind]

Have automatons taken earth yet?

Is that whole protest happening still

[pseudo oxide]

Can we make it semi-pacifist and specifically target shooters instead

[real void]

Let's goooooo

R3 Complete

[finite locust]

I think I only fired the hell gun like 21 times and the rest full hell revolver lol

[deep flame]

The hell gun 😈

[deep flame]

Revvie's great

[real void]

R2D2 progress: Jump from failing at class IV after wave 4/10 to failing at wave 10/10 cause no ammo or tool.

[prisma zodiac]

did you loot the 8th code fog zone?

it has A FRICK ton of ressources

[outer jacinth]

^literally just save fog repellers and shoot up that entire zone you gain resources anyways

[real void]

We couldnt see a thing so finding the terminal took 5 minutes

Ran out if time

[real void]

We did not find any fog repellers at all

[outer jacinth]

there's a fog turbine in the donut room

[prisma zodiac]

they are everywhere lol

[real void]

Whereeeeeeeeeeeee

[prisma zodiac]

tho you dont need foggies for that zone

[outer jacinth]

you can actually get rng out of having fog repellers but it's very rare

[prisma zodiac]

pull first room and the one to the left (open the door forcefully) then shoot those rooms up

[real void]

Also whereeeeeeeeee

[prisma zodiac]

walk in with turbine and pull 3rd and 4th room

get code, then loot

[outer jacinth]

somewhere

[prisma zodiac]

donut room (5th code zone)

ping

terminals are op

[real void]

I didn't know there was a fog turbine in the mission so I did not try looking for one

[outer jacinth]

they can spawn in elevator zone, bridge, reactor, and zone 196

[prisma zodiac]

the level has a ton of ressources luckily

[real void]

The mission itself is not really hard tho I expected way harder

Just time pressure :/

Makes me play worse

Trying to get better at it

[outer jacinth]

once you know where to go time pressure disappears on r2d2

[real void]

Basically the next attempt

[real moss]

Yeah timers are VERY generous on R2D2 and there is a lot of ammo/tool.

You should still have like 6 uses of ammo in reactor room by wave 10

[real void]

We ran out of reactor ammo and tool at wave 8

We just had bad luck with finding resources

[outer jacinth]

that's what time pressure does

[real void]

Cause alot of boxes alhad nothing in them

[outer jacinth]

should always have time to grab all resources everywhere

[real moss]

Terminal + loot the zones you open instead of reactor

Keeps reactor stuff for the end

[outer jacinth]

i highly recommend just shooting every room you encounter except for rooms with scouts to save time

[prisma zodiac]

use terminals

[prisma zodiac]

tbf even scout rooms are better to shoot 1 (specifically donut room) over waiting too long to clear one

[outer jacinth]

donut room can be a bitch on scout rng yeah

[prisma zodiac]

tbf thats not rly "correct"
its just that you wanna use up the side zone ressources and not leave em behind. This just plays out with not picking up massive uses early on in reactor

[outer jacinth]

or if you do pick up big packs, coordinate it so that 3 players aren't carrying leftovers from a 5 use ammo into a new zone

[real void]

Bots grab random packs :/

[real void]

2 player 2 bots so can't really do that

[outer jacinth]

OH

i see

i see the problem

[prisma zodiac]

well they actually prioritize medpacks

bots work fine tbh, just let them use their ressources

[real void]

That's nice

[kind swan]

I trust the bot to use disinfection on me while I'm fog diving

[pearl tartan]

This is only a small measure to combat abuse with kiting in pubs.

As mentioned by others, the replay can still be opened to view item locations and enemy spawns at any point.

There's no real way to combat this, even if I wrote code to restrict this etc... anybody determined enough can bypass it easily especially since the project is open source.

For this reason, I would not recommend allowing replay mod for speedruns since ur effectively just trusting people's word with it.

I could make a version specifically for speedrunning but as mentioned above it doesn't solve any of the cheating issues.

[late nebula]

Can butterfingers be added to speedruns

[pearl tartan]

I wish 😔

[lusty marten]

How thick is the fog in R8D2? Is it always recommended to do the extreme alarm?

[late nebula]

Not very thick but you won't see any more than a couple meters in front of you. You can do the 2nd alarm (Class 7), but the Class 9 does make a big difference near the end of Main since it drops down where the fog could be

[livid heath]

Not thicc

Just how high it goes

[wanton stump]

Just do extreme

[rocky zodiac]

it covers most of the level not kidding

like 99%

[prisma zodiac]

…

Class 9/extreme = no fog after
Class 7/hard (i think) = fog for a few bits of the level that can be dealt with by throwing foggies
Class 5/moderate? = fog basically everywhere

[solemn wigeon]

If you aren't confident in your skills and don't want fog, don't do secondary:D

[real void]

There is no fog if you only do main?

[outer scaffold]

It should be

[olive sky]

Yes, but the armory is going to be locked. So you either Deal with more enemies, or have to Deal with a Tank + Lotta Hybrids during the alarm

[real void]

Extreme
Strong
Moderate

[prisma zodiac]

I fucking despise Zone196 Area D terminals

Biggest bullshit

[raven flare]

the what

the who

[deft kiln]

Eva has been grinding r7d1

With the new oob skip

Wants to get 4 good terminals

[raven flare]

ahh

funny :3

[rocky zodiac]

the grind never stops

[stone harbor]

Adding all the time, what's the longest possible time for an R8E2 clear (assuming you dont let nightmare timer run out)?

Around 80-90mins, right?

[rocky zodiac]

i thinks its 1h40m ?

[raven flare]

the summary of all timers is 86 minutes i think

counting the sec 20 extra mins

[rocky zodiac]

i completed level in 1h22 even though we have like 18 mins left

[prisma zodiac]

nah we actually only need the first 3 to be good
last one can be anything not shit

[real void]

R2D2 progress 2: Jump from failing at start wave 10 cause no ammo/tool to failing midway wave 10 cause they broke the door next to us : (

This time having tons off ammo

[inland steeple]

broke the door ?

if they're smashing the door just open it and risk a flank

better than losing it permanently

[prisma zodiac]

oh you are holding in the side zone

id recommend trying to hold bridge

its honestly not that bad, especially with the current weapons available

[inland steeple]

out of all the runs I've done people still hold in the side zone tbh

[prisma zodiac]

incase you are going of the r2d2 scaler guide, that was made during alt r2, where we didnt have the same guns yet

[prisma zodiac]

its honestly not that great
like yes you have them coming from 1 side

but they are delayed, you have no real escape and hel weapons have a way shorter angle to aim for

[inland steeple]

holding off bridge mean you're betting on your team being competent enough to take out hybrids in time

[prisma zodiac]

eh

you clear most the smalls, they dont have anything left to shoot but hybrid

and if scared you can always tag a hybrid once to stop the barrage

bridge gives you so much space to work with

[inland steeple]

oh yeah definitely

[rocky zodiac]

i guess people just dont like having to shoot enemies that come from 2 sides

me either...

[inland steeple]

had runs where shit hit the fans and we ran out of ammo in side zone because people didn't do enough looting/ammo balancing

got forced to open the side door and it goes to hell from there

because pubs lobbies don't know how to adapt and defend on the move

[inland steeple]

more like, pub general awareness is abysmal

[rocky zodiac]

no idea

well actually

playing pubs is fun tho

you get to teach them new thing

[prisma zodiac]

they dont rly come from 2 sides at once ever

[rocky zodiac]

thats true

but they are just afraid of getting flank

:vv

[prisma zodiac]

honestly
pick hel rifle

tell 1 pub who has anything with decent dmg to focus on giants and hybrids and the other 2 can just shoot whatever comes close

its quite free

[rocky zodiac]

they only take sound cues seriously in fnaf game tbh

[real void]

We went in that sideroom before I watched scalers guide lol it just looked a better spot than the bridge

[inland steeple]

any horror games

[real void]

I have hel rifle

[winter wharf]

simon dear you don't like to shoot enemies at all, i know this because you're a machine gun player

[rocky zodiac]

pick 2 hel auto

peak game

[winter wharf]

• all the times you ran in front of me in r4e1 when trying to hammer something

[rocky zodiac]

not reallt goat

[real void]

Bots then never shoot Basically only when their close

[rocky zodiac]

because im hitting enemies that are further, goat

[real void]

We tried bridge and got clapped from behind

[rocky zodiac]

i thought i did a good amount of damage last time goat

[prisma zodiac]

goat got shot today while trying to hammer smth

[prisma zodiac]

kill at front of bridge, not close to reactor
have 1 sentry behind

once spawns ahead trickle, 1 person with 2 bots can just go to the other side and defend there

hel rifle can really stop lot of the wave with 2 sentries

[rocky zodiac]

uhh....

eva

how did you type so fast...

[inland steeple]

copy pasta

[rocky zodiac]

are you an AI eva

this is spooky

[real void]

I kinda want to keep our strat now that we are so close to winning

But thx anyway

[winter wharf]

1 time in like 5 hours

not 3 times in one run

[inland steeple]

that's a valid strat tbh

just keep doing it and the next time you do R2D2 for fun you can stay on the bridge

[prisma zodiac]

well tbf we also rarely hammer

[rocky zodiac]

hop on R2D2 bridge spot

[prisma zodiac]

yea

the advantage of bridge hold (aside from generally being "better")
is that it prepares you a bit more for later reactor holds

[rocky zodiac]

you can just wait for enemies to line up then shoot ur hel gun

so much fun

[real void]

The sad thing is if the door wouldn't been destroyed by 2 hybrids we would have won easily

[inland steeple]

well reactor hold is all about running range guns, if you're running multiple short range weapons on a reactor, sitting in the side room is better

that and HEL weapons because HEL

failed a R5B1 yesterday because aside from a burst cannon we had 2 shotguns & 1 MG

[rocky zodiac]

sounds true but not really

[winter wharf]

holding further away is considerably safer

but you don't need super high range guns

[inland steeple]

medium-long at the very least

[rocky zodiac]

btw what do u consider short range weapons

[inland steeple]

scattergun/combat/short rifle

shotgun too

chokemod has tighter spread, can actually one tap chargers at 6+m