gtfo-spoiler-chat

[half hornet]

Hm? What do you mean?

[tough atlas]

Sometimes it's a spiral thingy fuckery with catwalks

other times it's a single staircase

[half hornet]

Hmmmmmm

Oh, the hub zone just before reactor?

Yeah... Huh... Single staircase? Never seen that.

[whole umbra]

ngl i see people aim very low but still landing headshot

[latent arrow]

Can I ask you something? Where can you find the logs for R8a2 extreme? Can you find them in R8B2 or B3 or B4?

[glossy crescent]

you mean the password?

[latent arrow]

yes

[glossy crescent]

its on B2

[latent arrow]

oh thanks 🙂

[winter wharf]

1 part on b2 main, the other on b2 sec

[glossy crescent]

the terminal in the kraken bossfight

gives you one piece of the code

[latent arrow]

ok thanks guys

[late bloom]

b2 main part is in e2 too

[tough atlas]

No

Before the second alarm, on the left side, second zone

[bold widget]

yo

what are the 5 hidden achievments

[half hornet]

Mostly lore related.

Finding a specific log, or experiencing a specific event.

Although there is one weird one - to drop 100.000 meters.

(It means the total sum of level depth. You must actually survive the expedition too.)

[deft kiln]

There is 9 which ones don’t you have

[bold widget]

i got it

thanks

[west crow]

what'd you get

[deft kiln]

Beth’s number

[west crow]

she hates him...

[bold widget]

[winter wharf]

Please do not hit on people via dms

[deft kiln]

Pachi you should check your dms

Then report me to mod contact

[winter wharf]

Jish dear, there's nothing there

[kind swan]

I don't blame you Jish

[winter wharf]

At least not yet

[deft kiln]

nuts photo inbound

[cosmic quail]

Hm

[deft kiln]

Very exciting

[kind swan]

[winter wharf]

You don't gotta rub it in

[pliant carbon]

bots in a nutshell

[winter wharf]

OK thats way worse given what we're talking about

[cosmic quail]

Lmao

[deft kiln]

no my photos are magic best pick up lines

[winter wharf]

A groin picture does not work any magic, some other stuff would work wonderfully though

[glossy crescent]

what the fuck happened

they are taking a nap together?

[cosmic quail]

:3

[solemn wigeon]

[hearty vessel]

I want to be hit on in dms send me pickup lines

[late nebula]

🫨

[bold widget]

eyo

for the achievment "listen to the first state of truth broadcast"

where is that in what lvl

[late nebula]

r2e1

[bold widget]

what zone

[half hornet]

No idea.

I think the hole room?

[timid path]

pls tell me someone why e2 is overloaded with just every possible enemy in every room 🗿

[half hornet]

I have a faint memory of it.

[late nebula]

It's prob deep in the level tho

[bold widget]

but its r2e1 for sure right

[late nebula]

Yes

[bold widget]

kk

[late nebula]

Have fun

[glossy crescent]

R2E1 in one of the cell rooms

i dont remember which

[bold widget]

where the shadow are

[glossy crescent]

there is a room with a cell right at the start

check that one first

[bold widget]

kk

ty ty

[glossy crescent]

its that one?

[vocal geode]

Zone 598 and 606 have the two lore logs on R2E1

the 606 terminal is like right at the end

[pliant carbon]

I don't know man. They decided to not strike back on 2 small guys

they all died

[bold widget]

found it

[arctic sparrow]

How come in R8E1 the ALT team is sent to the crater thing within KDS Deep?

[quiet stone]

complete the rundown

[solemn wigeon]

What do you mean

Like why is there a scan there?

[half hornet]

Good question actually.

Dafaq are we scanning.

[solemn wigeon]

It's just to make sure everyone has jumped in

[half hornet]

I know, but that's game explanation, not lore explanation.

[solemn wigeon]

My best lore guess would be that's the closest approximation for the position of where biocom thinks the teleporter scan would be

[half hornet]

Best i can think of is:
"Is it blown up?"
...
"Yep, it did got blown up"

[deft kiln]

Not

Every thing

Needs

A fucking lore expiation

Holy shit

[solemn wigeon]

Cry

[half hornet]

Agree to disagree

[deft kiln]

your insane

[solemn wigeon]

You're*

[verbal ether]

What's the lore behind t-scans

[deft kiln]

You need to lock your doors at night

[solemn wigeon]

The people scanning got bored of standing still

[half hornet]

Scans in general have always been a giant plot hole in on itself, we just kinda accept it as the game doing game things.

This shit is never making it into a movie.

[inland island]

Guys what's the lore behind the game

[deft kiln]

you don’t need to follow the holopath to open a door

[ornate crow]

what did the warden mean when they put a class XII berserk scan at the start of r8d2

the lore implications...

[inland island]

What the hell is a class XII BERSERK scan

[half hornet]

I don't wanna know

[ornate crow]

oh that's just what my team calls the new r8 enemies

[inland island]

OK we get it
There is a XII? Alarm thing?
But what's a berserk scan

[ornate crow]

we like to call the alarms by the enemy types they spawn

[solemn wigeon]

Beserk is the enemy name they gave them

[ornate crow]

yeah lol

[inland island]

Dude what's a nightmare scout

How many scout types are there

[half hornet]

What are you doing in spoiler chat anyway

[solemn wigeon]

5 scout types

[inland island]

I've seen everything

So it doesn't matter anymore

[mortal portal]

I like to call the new strikers Pineapples and the shooters Sapplings

[inland island]

[solemn wigeon]

Regular, Scooter, Shadow, Charger, Nightmare

[inland island]

What do they do

[ornate crow]

Scooter lmfao

definitely one of the names

[inland island]

Why are there so many variants

[mortal portal]

Why not

[inland island]

What has evolution done to those poor things

[solemn wigeon]

Evolution isn't set in stone, mutations are always gonna happen

[ornate crow]

lore implications of why it costs like 4000 cfoam and 200 burst cannon shots to kill one single nightmare scout

[inland island]

Lmao we were doing b2c1 and it was our first time seeing a shadow type enemy
We were like
Wtf??
Is this a bug?

[mortal portal]

Because stronk biomass

[inland island]

It was funy

[mortal portal]

Shadows are my favorite enemy

[inland island]

Anyways

What does the nightmare variant do

Does it make them stronger

[ornate crow]

yes it costs 4000 cfoam and 200 burst cannon shots to kill a single nightmare scout

also their tendrils retract really fucking fast

[mortal portal]

Play R8 and you shall know

[inland island]

No

I can't even beat r2c1

[mortal portal]

Want a pro tip?

[inland island]

Don't cfoam every door

Yes

[mortal portal]

Nah, something else

[inland island]

Yes

[mortal portal]

Start with the last terminal, end with the first. Therefore when the uplinks are done you are closer to the extraction

[inland island]

That's what we were doing

The spores jumps cared us

[mortal portal]

Poggers

[inland island]

Also there were lots of fog

We couldn't see sh*t so we died
Yeah we died because we couldn't see sleepers

Massive skill issue right?

[mortal portal]

Bring bio

[inland island]

There were too many enemies

We couldn't stealth kill them

Like 5 together? Idfk

That should've been easy but the fog was annoying

[mortal portal]

Yeah the fog in that map is atrocious

It also makes the lighting even brighter so it's basically a flashbang level

But hey, R2C2 has a great surprise

R2C2 and onwards is where it gets cool and real

[inland island]

I hammered a spore and our teammate literally had a heart attack

[mortal portal]

Oof

[inland island]

We laughed so hard

What's with the giant boss fight in the end of the game

Does it have a lore to it

[mortal portal]

Which one

[inland island]

Bossfight

The big dude

Wdym which one

How many giant dudes are there

💀

The one that has a big mouth

And tumors..

Idk it's as big as a tower

[mortal portal]

[inland island]

I'm not talking about a tank

I'm talking about the end game boss fight

🫡

[hexed vapor]

What level?

[inland island]

I'm talking about the enemy that's as tall as Tony stark's building

Idk I saw it on yt

Probably spoilers (100%)

[mortal portal]

Oh the kraken, well so the lore behind it is that a group of scientists were experimenting with biomass. The issue was that the creature was still in development when Dreyfus decided to cut all funds to the research team. They recovered the specimen and decided to never give it up. Cause in the end, they never wanted to let the scientific community down. So they kept researching, never running around, and never deserting their purpose

[hexed vapor]

I dunno if I'd call Nemesis an "end game boss fight."

[inland island]

Oh yeah this dude ig

[deft kiln]

It is at the end of the game Ray

What else would it be

[alpine spindle]

I guess if anything it did take significantly longer than any other fight we’ve had

[inland island]

Sleepers need guns

[half hornet]

They do? Shooters are basically that

Hybrids are basically heavy machine gunners

[inland island]

Give them actual Fire arms

Give them snipers

Give them rocket launchers

[inland island]

Aren't they rocket launchers

[half hornet]

No, just very slow bullets

[inland island]

Because their missiles seem to be homing

[half hornet]

Rocket launchers would require an AoE explosion

[inland island]

True

Homing bullets

Oh yeah engineer from drg

How do you deal with chargers

[half hornet]

Hey, Dark Souls had them homing bow/crossbow arrows for ages and i don't see anyone complaining...
Oh wait, that's me

[half hornet]

HEL Rifle.

[inland island]

I was playing in a b class mission and there were two together
Also two other scouts together

[half hornet]

Or high cal, if you have the balls to let them get close.

[inland island]

They killed our team under 15 seconds

[alpine spindle]

Hel gun works too

[inland island]

I play hel gun and hel revolver

[warm burrow]

Just melee them when they get close to stagger and melee again :)

[inland island]

Where do I exactly shoot them

[alpine spindle]

Body

Line em up

[inland island]

Spine

?

Oh alright

How about the two other scouts

I have to go loud I guess

[alpine spindle]

Kill the scouts

Double charge

Double hit

Hel rifle pen

[inland island]

Man I'm bad at this game

I'll just spam hel gun everywhere

[half hornet]

Alright guys, i need something.

I need to know the depth or R8E2, from expedition description.

[balmy robin]

Almost the same as R8E1 or R5E1, roughly 1000m deep

[half hornet]

I need the precise number

[balmy robin]

1004m

While R5E1 and R8E1 sit at 984m

[alpine spindle]

So 100 R8E1 clears for the Inner

74.4 -> 75 R7E1 clears

[half hornet]

Spreadsheet is complete

[alpine spindle]

80 R8A1 clears

[balmy robin]

R8A1 is quite deep as well, if I remember correctly

[half hornet]

The whole game comes down to 75.813m out of 100.000m required

[alpine spindle]

Does Tutorial have a depth?

[late nebula]

Waiting for kds deeper

[half hornet]

It actually does....

[alpine spindle]

Because if so and you didn’t count it, that may be the last mission

[half hornet]

395

don't know if it counts though

[alpine spindle]

Someone get d0cred

[half hornet]

76.198m with tutorial

[alpine spindle]

So whole game + 1

[half hornet]

R7A1 and R8A1 look like best grinding options ~800 and ~1250 respectively

50% more depth, for 50% longer loading time and bigger map

R7D2 got whole 1300m for the 25 minutes of gameplay it offers, but that's assuming squad doesn't wipe

[alpine spindle]

Man, if only it counted previous attempts…

[kind swan]

R7D2 clears in like 10-15minutes

Unless you're going very slow

Unless you want speedrun records of 6 minutes iirc

[solemn wigeon]

First time clears and weaker teams:

[mossy yoke]

do you really want me to check?

[alpine spindle]

100% Clears:

[alpine spindle]

Eh it seems like w/ tutorial it would still be whole game + 1 so it wouldn’t really make a difference. I guess it would if it was 75m left excluding tutorial and tutorial was counted

So nah you don’t have to it’s not game breaking

[mossy yoke]

the good news is that tutorial does count.

so i guess have fun 4:07 speedrunning it

[alpine spindle]

@half hornet INCLUDE TUTORIAL

[winter wharf]

4:07 is outdated, 06 and 05 is the time that's being grinded for now

Granted people don't really speedrun the level to that point

[half hornet]

What the...

Apparently A4 doesn't exist?

[alpine spindle]

Yea, it doesn’t

What?

[half hornet]

I felt like it did

Weird

[alpine spindle]

We’ve only gotten to A3

A3, B4, C3, D2, E2

[half hornet]

Alright, one less row for the spreadsheet

There is technically one C4

R6Cx

[alpine spindle]

D4

[hexed vapor]

Tbf, you can still carry it to 20 minutes.

[alpine spindle]

I forgor R6

[hexed vapor]

It's the full clears that are kind of long.

[winter wharf]

I always forget r6c3 exists

[hexed vapor]

All doors + penalty is like 40 minutes.

[deft kiln]

only when I pull 3 tanks and p mom at the same time

and make sure there is charger giants plus bridge spam

[alpine spindle]

The only true way to play

[half hornet]

Huh, i missed a level.

Shit.

Good things i decided to re-check evertything and go extra stupid on this useless spreadsheet

Damn, do i have to re-check values too?... Now i feel paranoid.

Sigh... Do it right, or GTFO...

[winter wharf]

What are you doing again, artek?

[alpine spindle]

Compiling a list of expedition + depth for the Inner

[winter wharf]

Hm, not bad to have ig

But I still think the easiest way would be farming r3d1 or r7d2

[alpine spindle]

R8A1 is probably best ratio

[winter wharf]

You might be onto something, casuals runs of that shouldn't take more than 7 minutes jf you're rushing scans

[half hornet]

What do you guys think of R8A2?

[alpine spindle]

Depth?

[half hornet]

Feels a little bit slow. Shadows grind stealth to a hault.

Its exactly the same as R8A1

[alpine spindle]

Not worth

[half hornet]

Which is 1254

[alpine spindle]

If you want peak efficiency R8A1 will triumph over A2

R8E1 would be less efficient but more “fun” I suppose

R7E1 isn’t really viable

[half hornet]

Yeah.

+200m for... All of that...

[alpine spindle]

If we take average time as 7 minutes for R8A1 and you need 80 clears, you get 560 minutes, roughly 9.3 hours

Don’t think anything will really top that

[winter wharf]

Probably not

[alpine spindle]

R7E1 is at best 40 minutes

R8E1 20

[winter wharf]

Yea, it's much worse to optimise

[cosmic quail]

how do you get r8e1 to more than 30 mins

[alpine spindle]

It’s 20?

[winter wharf]

What are you smoking

[alpine spindle]

Not including failures from pubs

20 at worst

40 at best for R7E1

Average veteran time for R8E1 prob closer to 17-18 min

[winter wharf]

There are a lot of optimisations you can make for r7e1 I guess? But it's definitely far worse for grindinf

[cosmic quail]

im just asking how its possible

cause i saw a run that was like 40 mins

[winter wharf]

I think Brazil skip was 37 or 38 minutes, if you full blast speedrun then it's faster but you know

[cosmic quail]

and was extremely confused

[winter wharf]

Are you really going to get a team who can properly speedrun that level

[alpine spindle]

20 minutes R8E1 first time pubs? Possible

[alpine spindle]

Probably not, which is why it wouldn’t be good for grinding

[winter wharf]

Long kiting for ages or waiting for ages, like waiting until the end and then running back for extreme terminal commans

[alpine spindle]

You’re timegated in R8E1 and assuming no one knows what they are doing, theyll miss some stuff

Checkpoint just adds time

If you fuck up

[cosmic quail]

wait checkpoints add time?

im pretty sure they dont

[alpine spindle]

RTA

Not IGT

[cosmic quail]

ah

[alpine spindle]

And yea they do add time

IGT in different levels

Checkpoint gaming

[winter wharf]

Checkpoints fucking with the timer is so funny

[alpine spindle]

We do +/- 0.5 hours for dropping

If we take RTA

~10 hours of gameplay grinding R8A1 for the Inner

You could do it in a day

[cosmic quail]

bruh

gtfo moment

[sick cloud]

does anyone have any tips for the tank scans in R8D1? they're such hell to deal with especially in the giant room with the stairs leading down 😭

[alpine spindle]

There is a path you can take (and believe you are supposed to) that avoids the scans

I’d recommend finding it and learning it before doing anything else

[sick cloud]

i saw that path yeah

ill try to learn it as best as i can

is there any way to consistently dodge or avoid the tanks tenticle attacks too? i try my best to and i cant figure out how

[winter wharf]

Play around cover

Tanks have a lot more range than regular sleepers and their tongues do funny stuff

[random ruin]

so the game audio broke and didnt hear anything of what was said at the end of R8E2

so did we escape and then what?

[sick cloud]

okay ill try that thank u!

[random ruin]

also was there any point to doing the secondary objective? would the outcome had been different otherwise?

that last mission was beyond difficult and was just pure luck that we passed it

is there somewhere i can go to read like a transcript of the lore? the story? cause its messy lol

[half hornet]

There is a pinned document in #gtfo-lore and you can ask any additional questions there.

That or go to wiki and started reading slowely and carefully

[kind swan]

A2 Code this week?

[vocal geode]

R025N-8IRXJ

[timid gust]

@frosty niche

[frosty niche]

That's weird

[timid gust]

yea, thats what im thinkin

[half hornet]

You can't host an E1 level because it is unlocked by clearing every Main in the rundown.
You don't have B2 and C2 > therefore > you can't host E1.

[random ruin]

no info out yet on the endings 😦

[half hornet]

Yeah, wiki people being notably slow for some reason this time around.

I have like 4 new helmets and none of them are on the wiki.

[random ruin]

i finally got decem

the pallette i wanted

now i can look like TF2 medic

[kind swan]

with R8. the Cosmetics wasn't really the Focus tbf

[random ruin]

was there always a teleporter at KDS deep? and why go to KDS deep? Like isnt that the place they store operatives... why not choose another teleporter location there are plenty thru rundown 6

[half hornet]

Which is a shame

Where is my plate armor goddammit

Where are my 2 cooler prosthetic legs

Where are my dual robo arms

WHERE ARE THEY

I've been stuck with same like 4 cosmetics since Rundown 7

Only thing that got replaced is the helmet (and its a sidegrade really, not an upgrade) and i guess slightly more interesting palletes... But that's it.

[random ruin]

if a new player played this game i dont think theyd understand the story at all. maybe if the original rundowns were still here they would? my understanding is theres 2 teams original and ALT with 2 schaffers crazy and not crazy

but the ones we play as for the first 6 rundowns are the ones with the bad ending

[half hornet]

Yeah, that's been a major concern that wasn't really adressed in any meaningful way.

[random ruin]

the ones who escape dont have a story

[half hornet]

You play one story for first 6 rundown, switch to a different one in rundown 7, then go back to ALT one and... You know the rest.

[random ruin]

i feel like things couldve been handled way better. love the game but the story is the messiest thing ive ever seen

[half hornet]

The price they had to pay for their weird development model.

[random ruin]

i cant tell if the alternate dimension team was part of the plan all along or if they did that in order to wrap up the game quickly

btw do you know how those 2 teams met? like how the dimensions merged? Schaeffer mentioned something but i did not understand it at all lol

[half hornet]

Its 100% the wrap up

The story starts feeling rushed quickly.

The first half is... Alright.

Mostly because you're just kinda blind to what is going on.

But so far A2>C2 are just nonsensical.

I'm probably missing some pieces, but things just go from 0 to 100 real quick

[random ruin]

yea

and im just browsing steam discussions now and seeing mentions of a "mimic"

do they mean the clone KDS developed?

im so confused

[half hornet]

The mimic, the unit, the conduit.

[random ruin]

why even have that clone that they developed like what did it contribute to the story?

[half hornet]

The artificial creep the corpse of which you can observer in R6CX as well as a mountain of corpses of them in, uh... R5... D1?...

[random ruin]

maybe im stupid but i just am not understanding it

[half hornet]

Or was it R4D1?...

[random ruin]

yeah i remember that'

so they are like bred using machines but whats the purpose for the story

as far as i know alt schaeffer gets info from them?

[half hornet]

Have you played CX?

[random ruin]

original schaeffer kills one

[random ruin]

yeah but its been a while

finished all the missions

just finished r8

[half hornet]

For the longest time we theorized their purpose was to replace us, because ability to be invisble to sleepers is effectively god mode in the facility.

But it turned out the Warden was making them with one purpose and purpose alone: to talk to us.

[random ruin]

ohhh right there was a log about how they arent detected... and how arent they detected lol just really light feet?

[random ruin]

oh

[half hornet]

OG R6 one tried and got fucked.
ALT R6 succeeded, because ALT Schaeffer is not actually insane and seems to have about 15 extra IQ points.

[random ruin]

ok...

so alt schaeff talked to warden, but THROUGH the unit

[half hornet]

Not THE Warden

[random ruin]

so the dead one we see in cx is schaeffs doing

[half hornet]

Its... Weirdly complicated, for some reason.

Its not Warden who talks through the unit - its some other consciousness.

"The Warden is of us" it says. Its one of them / works with them, but its a separate thing entirely from whatever was posessing the unit.

[random ruin]

i wish i could use a gif to depict my confusion

your explaining just fine its just... the story lol

i started out thinking we were just 4 prisoners out of thousands but are all the other prisoners us? are we clones?

[half hornet]

No, other teams definetely exist. Schaeffer was a part of one team like that.

[random ruin]

ohhh right right

[half hornet]

We're not factually prisoners, but rather Warden calls us that because we respond better to orders when he does. Which is something Warden both figured out and implemented himself.
BIOCOM just called us "resources".

The whole R8 debacle has been probably the biggest mystery. The mechanics of how 2 teams and BOTH Schaeffers ended up in the same place make absolutely zero fucking sense.

[random ruin]

the chips?

in our rectum

i mean cranium

at first i thought rundown 5 kds deep us waking up kds deep woke up the other team but now i find out they arent clones

[glossy crescent]

HUH

[random ruin]

maaaaaaaaaaaan

i appreciate the info im still as confused as before but not for a lack of understanding the story

[random ruin]

we dont talk about what the warden did to us

[glossy crescent]

nah bro
thats wild

[random ruin]

"fuck the warden" right??

schaeffer said that

speaking of which i felt terrible drowning the guy after he had a fucking meltdown

despite him being kind of a prick

[vocal geode]

he killed the other Schaeffer

and was gonna leave us for dead

[random ruin]

he killed himself technically

[vocal geode]

he had it coming

[glossy crescent]

so is that considered auto-unalive? (i dont want to say the word)

[random ruin]

sewer side

and yes

i thought it was rather comedic

[half hornet]

The KDS deep affair was called "The Influx protocol"

[random ruin]

but very depressing

[half hornet]

Influx of what?... What for?...

So many questions were left unanswered.

[random ruin]

i felt like there were 5 different stories going on

and thats doubled now because NOW THERES 2 TEAMS

[half hornet]

I genuinely do fear its because the story elements were heavily inspired by their design process.

KDS Deep Influx protocol was a clever way of leading into Rundown 6, v1.0 release with "influx" of new players, like the facility is getting raided big time.

[random ruin]

this game had so much potential with the world its set in i love it but the execution was kind of butchered 😦

but i suppose im glad i have a finished game

[half hornet]

Storytelling in 2020s... Seems like its the industry standard almost now.

Oh well... Im yeat to beat R8's D2 and E2, so maybe i'll see something cool in there.
R8E1 was hype for what it was.

[random ruin]

yeah... I miss older games. Crazy how lethal company outsold Modern Warfare 3 lol. I feel like all these games have potential that is wasted

[random ruin]

Daudas line "We will bleed together one last time" went hard asf

[half hornet]

Still curious what dictates who speaks and when.

[random ruin]

i was told R8E2 was the good ending but for me a good ending is getting both teams to escape not helping the selfish one to leave the others

[half hornet]

For me it was hackett saying "I think we made it" followed by Bishop saying "It doesn't bloody end! It never ends!"

[random ruin]

yeah idk. Its like L4D2 u need to play it multiple times to hear all the voicelines. But since its an E tier mission I wont be touching it again lol

[half hornet]

To be fair its the easiest E-tier in the game.

Its literally just move forward, acquire ammo, keep moving.

[random ruin]

sure it is

but im now playing for fun

im not stressed bout completing all the more difficult missions

i liked the start of R6

the whole teleportation stuff to alien planet was kinda cool for me

alot of the really cool missions are alot harder and require teammates and getting everyone on to try and fail for a few hours isnt welcome in my friendgroup lol

i say "lets play gtfo!" and they tell me to gtfo

[half hornet]

LFG is da way

[bold widget]

game scams me
got the character logs from A2 and A3
no achievment

:/

[random ruin]

i think you have to finish the mission right?

i killed a big guy solo melee but didnt get the achievement till i finished the mission

and i dont think u have to win

just finish any way

[bold widget]

so killing myself doesnt count ?

[random ruin]

did you sewer side?

i cant say the word

if u did mission would fail right?

[bold widget]

yes

[random ruin]

welp if that didnt work then maybe u do have to win it

or maybe its just bugged

[cosmic quail]

It's prolly bugged

[livid heath]

The lfg experience

[cosmic quail]

.t lfg

[jaunty hedge]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[livid heath]

Stfu

No one asked for lobbies to be lfg’d

[cosmic quail]

.t lfg

[jaunty hedge]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[livid heath]

You mf

Stop that shit

[cosmic quail]

Ily

[livid heath]

Im tryna enjoy a cup of coffee

[cosmic quail]

No

<3

[livid heath]

In the morning and this fucking notifications just spams

Shutcho bitchass up

[cosmic quail]

:3

[random ruin]

Yes yes I know lfg exsists

I'd rather play with friends I know tho, I ain't complaining about lack of players

[cosmic quail]

You say lfg?

[cosmic quail]

.t lfg

[jaunty hedge]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[random ruin]

Bruh 😂

[vocal geode]

friends?

damn

[cosmic quail]

Dumbass cat has never heard of that word

[random ruin]

"I don't have friends. I have family."

Family. Family. Family. Family.

[vocal geode]

I do have friends but none of them play GTFO lol

[cosmic quail]

Rip

[random ruin]

The better bots mod is a good substitute but it won't help much on D or E tiers

[vocal geode]

are you sure about that?

[random ruin]

But they'll be competent enough to help through A and B

[random ruin]

Well when I tried it out it's not like they carried me or anything

[cosmic quail]

Better bots can totally carry

[river oyster]

i mean... normal bots are fine for a-c

even some D levels

[vocal geode]

I tried better bots on R2E1

and they absolutely fucking carried

[random ruin]

I just dislike the team damage

The better bots mod removes that

Bishop has downed me more times than I can count

[vocal geode]

shouldn't have friendly fire to begin with

they shoot any chance they get

[random ruin]

Especially not with bots

[random ruin]

Even through doors and walls lol

[vocal geode]

I meant for bots specifically

I've gotten downed by bots a lotta times

mainly if they have strong weapons

[random ruin]

Sniper lol

[vocal geode]

because some doofus host decided to give them Scattergun

or whatever else

[cosmic quail]

Scatter bot

[vocal geode]

Bot Scatter, Bot feel good

[random ruin]

Yeah I'm surprised at this stage in videogames (in general not just this game) they haven't smoothened out and found the perfect line between brain dead and carry

[vocal geode]

Bot down teammate, Bot sad

Bot forget

[random ruin]

Scatter bots scatter my brains

[vocal geode]

they are good for biotracking though

even a person with full tracker cpu speed isn't as good as a bot with bio lol

[kind swan]

[nocturne flax]

Itbdoesnt work

Youll still get damage by them

Its been broken since forever

Also fatshark its a really good example of how good bot support can be

Of course fatsharks games its way more simple than gtfo

But the baseline its there

Granted the bot support of gtfo should be design for 2 players + 2 bots anyways

Not to be played solely with bots

[lost nova]

ok beep ill bite. my noob opinion is that it's kind of a better sniper because you can 2-burst bigs and can kill 3.5 per mag. also you don't need to hit head.

[olive shoal]

im glad u put some respect on burst cannon at least

maybe excel ethan isnt entirely lost...

[narrow gulch]

we didnt get the hel gun verdict yet

[olive shoal]

The world isn’t ready for that yet

[balmy robin]

HEL weapons are harder to rate on numbers alone, because penetration . Gameplay impacts them much more

[narrow gulch]

thats why the hel gun verdict is important

[lost nova]

im shit with hel gun because of the chargeup but on paper its very good and one the more versatile specials, no?

[olive shoal]

damn

the chargeup used to be worse

dark days

but yes

its really good

[lost nova]

anyway the spreadsheet has shots-to-kill tables (+ ammo efficiency) now for most enemies and they re-calculate based on the range input which is very based and cool
but small chance there's a typo in 1 or 2 of the formulas

[narrow gulch]

🫡

[deft kiln]

how do you cal the tank ammo efficiency?

[lost nova]

he aint on there lol

i have a limb break formula tho and I can just change it slightly for limbs with capped damage

tank and mom will be added eventually

[narrow gulch]

dw jish

[deft kiln]

will you inculde the extra one damage

[narrow gulch]

I already ruined him with tumor overdamage

[deft kiln]

for tumour break

but the extra one damage one tumor break

that he doesnt know about

changes host rev from 38 bullets to 37

MASSIVe

[lost nova]

wait uve already done the math thats crazy

[narrow gulch]

they found out the hard way

(cconsole and second guessing their counting ability)

[deft kiln]

did you account for the tank amour muit once you break tumor source trust me bro

[lost nova]

is that where the overkill damage goes? ik its not gonna matter since armor mult is 0.001 or something tho

[deft kiln]

no it is someone being insane

the extra damages is just one

for tumor pop

[lost nova]

WAIT I FIGURED IT OUT

YOU KNOW NIGHTMARE SCOUT?

[deft kiln]

unless client then you have no damage cap

[lost nova]

HOW IT HAS OVERKILL DAMAGE ON THE TUMOR

maybe nightmare scout's overkill damage is multiplied by its armor mult?

[deft kiln]

no probs not

[narrow gulch]

I dont think so

[deft kiln]

client is just werid

[lost nova]

it has a 0.3 armor mult

so its possible

[narrow gulch]

knife to front + sniper to back killed it

[deft kiln]

what gun?

[alpine spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585063132553281556/1186986280735756308/GTFO_replay_2023.12.20-18.56_-_Trim.mp4?ex=65953e1e&is=6582c91e&hm=ccde0a12220f65fda578fbc28ec5e2f145cb8a5e26465db56b71555aacdb0ed0&

Well… shit

It didn’t copy the right thing

Ig that works

[lost nova]

If the overkill damage is 100%, and not 0.3 (armor mult), then a sniper to the back will deal 160.24 damage, leaving it on 0.76HP

[deft kiln]

that is what happens

[lost nova]

but if the overkill damage is only 30%, a sniper to the back would deal only 104.772, leaving the scout on 56.2hp

[deft kiln]

@lost nova

look at the vid?

does knife deal 56 damage

[lost nova]

knife crit damage is 8.25

[cosmic quail]

yes

:3

[lost nova]

so yeah the overkill damage is 100%

and not 30%

[narrow gulch]

I think nightmare enemy tumors act like regular limbs

[cosmic quail]

im pretty sure knife does a whole 3000 damage

[narrow gulch]

not actual tumors

[cosmic quail]

idk

[deft kiln]

gald you disproved the meme

very very cool

[deft kiln]

makes host scatter slightly better

very nice

[lost nova]

3 choke mod to the back

[narrow gulch]

does it?

wouldnt it be unchanged

[deft kiln]

i thoght host couldnt kill

[narrow gulch]

only diff between limbs and tumors is the cap at max tumor hp

and ig the stupid 1 damage on break

[deft kiln]

no reason to ever take choke scatter is in the game

[narrow gulch]

but I refuse to mention that

[deft kiln]

very unfo

[lost nova]

style points

[alpine spindle]

If I’m not delusional I think Jaja told me once you could/were able to kill as host scatter

[deft kiln]

THis IS VERY important

[alpine spindle]

Don’t remember can’t confirm

[narrow gulch]

im throwing your lethal run

[lost nova]

SuperScout can't have the 1 damage on break, or else it would get 1-tapped by sniper

literally

[deft kiln]

^

look

mr google sheets

agrees

[narrow gulch]

yeah but its not a boss tumor

that is the hypothesis

[lost nova]

yeah im a lil slow

[deft kiln]

i will boss your tumor

[lost nova]

its just a head

[deft kiln]

do you think scatter needs another buff

maybe more ammo in clip?

[lost nova]

not that slow

[deft kiln]

needing to reload between mom kills is very unfo

[narrow gulch]

would you choose to do 1 extra damage on pop to me or not.,.,.,. 👉 👈

[deft kiln]

XDXD

[lost nova]

I found the reason they nerfed sniper BTW. It's this video #gtfo-media message

[alpine spindle]

[deft kiln]

we all knew about this

it was in the game

[lost nova]

yeah but is that why

[deft kiln]

for 6 rundowns man

[narrow gulch]

whos gonna show them the last 100 r7d2 runs weve done

[lost nova]

do u think thats the motivation for the nerf tho

[narrow gulch]

so we can get scattergun demolished

[deft kiln]

if it is then it is because they really dont want d mom to be sniper fucked

[alpine spindle]

If you make that argument you could do the same for BC

BC had the same capability

[deft kiln]

unfo they buffed scatter so DeMom still didnt get to act

[alpine spindle]

But alas

[narrow gulch]

doesnt even take scatterguns full reserve

[deft kiln]

you are lying

there

[narrow gulch]

closer to half

[deft kiln]

is no waY

[narrow gulch]

its 5k health jish

[deft kiln]

WHat the fucke

is this game

holy shit

[lost nova]

do u think they should make scatter 3 bullets but nerf prec damage to 0.3 so you can't scatter mom?

[alpine spindle]

JisH 🤯

[deft kiln]

they just need to remove scatter

[narrow gulch]

ong, give it a precision nerf and then buff stagger

[deft kiln]

and rebuff sniper

[narrow gulch]

so you cause mom running birth and do no damage

[deft kiln]

xd

best way to kill the gun

make it do running birth

[narrow gulch]

its 10C classic

nerf weapons in the absolute worst way possible

so literally no one wants to take them anymore

[deft kiln]

if you take scatter gun

you pc blue screens

[alpine spindle]

Make the mod

[deft kiln]

na man gtfr needs to be updated

but lethal company taking all my time

[alpine spindle]

Fair

Last patch was time doing moving scan fix

[wary olive]

is something actually wrong with pmoms in r5d1

[deft kiln]

yeah

you get two of them

[wary olive]

i think i saw other people getting double spawn, and it didnt seem like a one off thing

😬

[deft kiln]

dont worry ryk

this is a good buff

[olive shoal]

@deft kiln

[deft kiln]

fuck you

lego clique

[olive shoal]

?????

[deft kiln]

looking ass

[olive shoal]

ur being moved to the mumblebros clique

im sorry for your loss

[deft kiln]

MUMBLE BROS

[alpine spindle]

Good buff fuck me and my GTFO% solo

[deft kiln]

MUMBLE BROS

na beth i am killing myself

your my reason 1-13

blocked/

[olive shoal]

i hope you fall down a well

[brisk wraith]

You***'re*** my 14th reason why

[livid heath]

Yo guys

[nocturne flax]

No

[livid heath]

Im watching T-nenpis E2 duo

They done

And on the door scan he jump on the trap scan

Stopping the alarm to the kraken fight (technically the alarm is still going but no spawns/1 alarm leading to it with the Pmom spawn after scans)

This shit giving me memories from R5E1 charger alarm/class IV shadow

[livid heath]

@balmy robin

can i ask something in dms?

you seem most suit to ask

[dark lion]

whats a good level thats easy to speedrun in under 10 min for the drop distance achievement, but would still be kinda interesting to learn?

[livid heath]

R1A1

R7A1

R2B1

R3D1

[dark lion]

awesome, thanks!

[astral ferry]

missed opportunity to indoctrinate another person into the r7d2 grind

[livid heath]

nah

its your special hell

you keep it

[half hornet]

R7A1 and R8A1 are best efficiency wise.

7 is faster, but 8 provide 50% more meters

[livid heath]

remember its 10min

[pulsar zodiac]

R7D2 is fast and more fun to do

[livid heath]

ayo lethal company?

can i join?

[pulsar zodiac]

we're full

[pliant shard]

BiggerLobbies mod

Up to 20 players

[ivory osprey]

hey, got a question. im swith some friends right now trying to do R8A2. we know about the terminal for secondary and the password for it is in R8B2. we have this week's password, but I want to ask where exactly is it in R8B2? where is the terminal? how quickly can we get to it?

[kind swan]

in the area with water

in a mossy corner you can walk through

otherwise

you can just ping the terminal from the other one

[ivory osprey]

is that in B2? or are the two terminals hidden the same way behind moss in both A2 and B2?

[half hornet]

Are you asking where the password is acquired?

[ivory osprey]

yes

[half hornet]

It appears on a terminal in the big fight of about 2 minutes after the fight starts

A half of it anyway.

[kind swan]

Didn't read fully. Rip

[half hornet]

Another half is in... One of the funny broken terminals.

[kind swan]

But yeah. Need B2 main and Secondary to get both halves of the code

[ivory osprey]

I see. So we have to finish B2 main and B2 secondary and two different runs just to unlock A2 secondary. I dont think we will be up for it just because of the time constraints. After A2 secondary I know E2 secondary also requires a password ? how many passwords are there for us to get within a week and how many levels do we need to run i order to get them?

[kind swan]

E2 has the same code as one of the terms in B2

You don't need it.

[glossy crescent]

E2 sec doesnt requieres a password

[kind swan]

It's just another level you can get one half of the codes

[ivory osprey]

oh ok. so the only thing that requires a password in this rundown is the A2 secondary and it can be obtained in B2 or E2? Im guessing it is similarly split in half between Main and Secondary on both levels?

narratively then, is A2 secondary a dead end where we just listen to Henrikson and the rest of Schaeffer's plan doesnt happen?

[alpine spindle]

No

A2 is literally a poorly implemented Easter egg

[glossy crescent]

its more like a troll level

you die at the end

[alpine spindle]

It should’ve been a separate expedition

[glossy crescent]

so it doesnt even make sense

[ivory osprey]

oh, that sucks a bit then. I hoped it would be a separate storyline progression path where levels would have secondaries that are only accessible by getting the password from previous stage's secondary, where we essentially follow Henrikson instead

oh well, at least as it is it makes some sense mechanically

thanks for the help, were not going to worry about A2 secondary for a while then

[bold widget]

anyone got the all character backstory logs achievment ?

[half hornet]

Nope, wasn't ever aware they exist.
I heard someone else couldn't get their achievement either. Did you let the audio play?

[pliant shard]

Gotta do r5a2 logs in zone 20 and r5a3 logs in zone 39

Let the audio play and can abort right after

[bold widget]

did just that

got the ones in a2 and a3

[pliant shard]

All 8 logs?

[bold widget]

yes

do i have to listen to it completly ?

[pliant shard]

Might have to run it back - I listened to only one fully cuz it was interesting. Rest I aborted right away

[bold widget]

did you finish the lvl ?

or killed yourself/went back to lobby

[pliant shard]

Unless there’s others scattered around the complex that I just happened to get. I’m at 140/188 atm.

I did cuz I had to get complete anyways

[balmy robin]

You are missing a couple

[bold widget]

bro

why did i go lore hunting and have all the screenshots

if i have to do it again 💀

[balmy robin]

There are 12 audio logs related to the main characters

[pliant shard]

Where are the last 4 👀

[balmy robin]

Most of them being in R5A2 and R5A3, but there are also 4 more in the same Rundown if I remember correctly

You could pull up the lore database to find them :)

[pliant shard]

I only have r6+7 logs left so I must’ve already gotten them without knowing

[half hornet]

You'll probably get them anyway whole doing the logs achievement

[balmy robin]

I can't remember the exact ones, since I did go for a bit of lore logs hunting during testing as well, enough to validate the 50 logs one

I have to admit I did not have the time to go look for the whole 188 :D

[pliant shard]

Omgomgomgomgomgomgomg lazy bug hunters omgomgomgomg

[random ruin]

so I was told a while back the secondary objective in R8E2 gives us the "good ending"

i cant be arsed playing E2 again to see the bad ending lol

what does the secondary objective actually do?

[solemn wigeon]

You are required to do secondary to beat the level

R8E2 IS the good ending

[random ruin]

oh

well ok then

i put in a command to a terminal in secondary and it was like "trash emptied" or something

garbage chute maybe idk

[solemn wigeon]

MAIN_WASTE_FLUSH

[random ruin]

yeah that

how does that change anything for us story wise

[solemn wigeon]

thats in main im pretty sure

Secondary is just a reactor

[random ruin]

it coulda been i got lost af

oh right

yeah ok secondary is reactor

but how did main waste flush help us

gotta empty the trash folder before noping out

cant have the other team finding the homework folder

[solemn wigeon]

Powering the reactor in secondary unlocks the door to the zone before KDS Deep,
The other side purged KDS deep (presumably) of waste fumes, particulates and fluids if I had to guess

which then unlocked the door to access KDS Deep

[random ruin]

hmm

like i said yesterday i have no idea why it had to be kds deep

dont get me wrong the room is cool asf

people storage

[half hornet]

+1 Bot vs R8D2: yay or nay? What would be the trap?

[random ruin]

but like any old teleporter woulda worked

[solemn wigeon]

It's a location both groups are familiar with

they've both been to KDS Deep before

Sure somewhere like R6B1 would work too, but if I was to guess, it's not secure enough or doesn't provide alternative entrances

Like how were we going to close the door behind us when we got there first

[random ruin]

weve played as the alt team and went to kds deep for sure, i assume new players who didnt play original rundowns will assume the same?

as in theyve both been there

[solemn wigeon]

Yes

[random ruin]

true this game doesnt let us close big doors

considering what the story is now, i think it wouldve been cool for all the rundowns to feature what R8 has, where you play as one team on one side and the other team on the other side

not exactly the same missions or anything

just for story sake it'd match up better

[solemn wigeon]

The problem is, both alt and original r1-r7 are practically identical

not r7 whoops

[random ruin]

yeah but new players who didnt play originals wont understand that theres a new team

i sure didnt lol

none of my friends did

its like 6 rundowns one team and then we switch it up real quick for rundown 7 then mix it rundown 8

[solemn wigeon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[balmy robin]

It is a shrug moment indeed.

[solemn wigeon]

Not much can be done about it

[balmy robin]

I do appreciate that they found a somewhat elegant way to wrap things up, considering how it could have derailed after R7 and the Alt:// segment

[random ruin]

im just happy its wrapped up at all

things coulda been done so much better but i still like it

the story is fine but just not tied together nicely

[balmy robin]

While there are of course quite a few holes, I really enjoy the "ending", even though there are quite a few zones of uncertainty, to say the least

[random ruin]

i much preffered alt teams heroic and tragic ending to the selfish ending of original

its like original Schaeffer and his team transferred from the "asshole" dimension

[native lily]

I mean it makes sense his personally would rub off on them

[solemn wigeon]

Naw the alt dimension came over to the original worldline

[balmy robin]

Well, to be fair the OG team are quite a bunch of bastards. I do not resent them too much for what they did

They did go through hell

[solemn wigeon]

Both teams went through hell, but when OG team were given the opportunity to free themselves from both Schaeffer AND the Warden, revenge was on the table

The Alt Team remained under the control of the warden

[balmy robin]

A very fitting end.

[native lily]

they probably would have done the same as the other team if given a choice

[solemn wigeon]

Exactly

unfortunately Schaeffer working alongside the warden killed all chances of that

Frankly the only problem I had with R8 was in E2 when we SOMEHOW knew how to extend the timer, and knew the locations of the terminals to open KDS Deep

You could make the argument in C2 that we knew where the MRI Scanner was because we could still interact with Biocom in our mind, but after that every progression text that appears is our own decision

[random ruin]

true

i swear i ask the same question every day and i get a different answer from somebody new

this community is so cool, so many people with so many different info

like a library of congress

[native lily]

true lol

[late nebula]

[half hornet]

question lads

anyone experienced terminals being bugged in R8D2 specifically?

The fuckers are ignoring my filtering tags

[narrow gulch]

some zones in r8 have actual names instead of just zone_xxx

fucks with filtering

[half hornet]

weird

i try my classic LIST SECURITY - it gives me resources?!

[balmy robin]

Most of them should end up as " ... , Zone_XXX"

[half hornet]

I try LIST RES - it gives me everything

i do LIST RESOURCES - then it gives me resources only

[balmy robin]

Oh

Some of the zones are named "RESERVOIRS"

[alpine spindle]

LIST U >>> LIST RES

[balmy robin]

Hence, "LIST RES" might not be as usefull as in other expeditions

List U is the way to go

[alpine spindle]

It’s faster, less to type

[narrow gulch]

all the 1 letters are pretty fucked in r8

[alpine spindle]

[half hornet]

cringeronium

[narrow gulch]

1 letter highly likely to get picked up by a zone name

[pliant shard]

List E_XXX U gaming

[half hornet]

okay

apparently sentries are fucking shit against nightmares

+50% damage on shotgun sentry and it does NOTHING

i see it shooting, i see it hitting, but those fuckers just don't care and eat it

What's people's opinion on R8D2 secondary optimal choice? This squad is trying to do a Class 9 and the fucking tank is being mega cringer

[alpine spindle]

Class 9 is where it’s at for sure

Though you can get away with Class 7 and bring fog repellers + turbine for later

[balmy robin]

It mostly depends on your team loadout

[late nebula]

Just hope you don't get the 50/50 snatcher spawn

[wary olive]

the fog level with doing the class 7 isnt even bad at all, definitely worth considering if you cant make it past the class 9

[balmy robin]

I have not tried the "Moderate" option in the current build, but I am pretty sure it is quite cursed for the rest of the run 😅

[alpine spindle]

The class 7 makes the scan have no fog

But you’ll need fog repeller/turbine for later

My first clear was with class 7

And it wasn’t terrible

Fog repellers for the first part after error

And then turbine + fog repeller for the big room

You only need 6 total fog repellers if you play it right

If you do class 5 you’ll need more fog repellers cause it makes the alarm easier if you just unfog the entire room

But doing class 5 is just a bad move imo

It’s worth doing 7/9

[prisma zodiac]

it still needs 2 shots to kill one what a suprise (and honestly idk if it aims correctly on them)

Sniper sentry dominates here

[half hornet]

Yeah, except it got like no space to work with

[kind swan]

iirc don't they target head and then go for body?

[half hornet]

i tried bringing it, actually, but the fucking thing ignored them

[late nebula]

What does r8c1 secondary terminal do again

[deft kiln]

Adds shadows to the objective waves later

[late nebula]

Thanks

[half hornet]

Okay, listen.

Mag size? I can tolerate.

Recoil? Fine.

why this thing refuses to shoot

(sniper rifle)

[late nebula]

Shot delay moment

[half hornet]

Yeah

out of all the changes - that one is the most cringe

[kind swan]

Make sure Hange doesn't throw

[arctic sparrow]

Two C-Foam launchers.

[late nebula]

Green taking supply eff but not scavenging for resources 🙂 and wondering why he had no ammo during sequence

[kind swan]

wanna play occlusion?

you and hange

[late nebula]

I've never tried Occlusion before I don't think

[kind swan]

@timber magnet

[timber magnet]

what happened

[timber magnet]

i never throw

[half hornet]

whyat the fuck is the R8D2 finale?! hello?!

Welp

3 hours down the drain

I have no idea how the fuck are you supposed to defend against that...

Now with 2 people on 20 HP that is...

Dafaq is the meta here? 3 sniper sentries, i guess?

[pseudo lily]

r8d2 is such a long level

[half hornet]

The new R5D1

[alpine spindle]

I did it with 1 burst, 1 cfoam, 1 mine

[half hornet]

I don't see how... I guess you didn't fought the secondary tank?

[alpine spindle]

We did

[half hornet]

How the fuck...

We barely made it by with 2 HELs spreading the horde thin

[alpine spindle]

Mine and foam helps extraction imo

You pre-mine/foam far door close to extract

[half hornet]

I don't know... The what...

[alpine spindle]

Permafoam + mine secondary

[half hornet]

I mean you can't because of the full team scans

[alpine spindle]

You can

[half hornet]

About halfway through you have to stop foaming and that's how they break through

[alpine spindle]

If you time it well

[half hornet]

After that its just hell

I still havent found an optiomal may of deleting nightmares

HEL Rifle, i guess?

[alpine spindle]

Hel rifle is good

[half hornet]

But who's killing the tank...

[alpine spindle]

Scatter of gun

You foam tank

4 cfoam nades

[half hornet]

God, this game just refuses to respect people's time

[alpine spindle]

Beth taught me long kite too

There’s a long kite path you can set up

[half hornet]

2 wipes on secondary, barely made it through on 3rd one, flawlessed everything prior to the boss fight (although maybe spent like 3-4 minutes too long getting lost), took out the boss from 2nd attempt, ALMOST made it to extraction and wiped on extraction because we forgot the MWP at the door frame (LMAO).
Alright - another checkpoint, boss fight AGAIN, do the whole fucking thing again and this time we don't even get to open the door - the fucking 2-3 snatchers accompanied by like a dozen nightmares just overwhelmed us immediately.