#gtfo-spoiler-chat

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nocturne flax
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they give bots the ping that they have because if they didnt they woulda just perma ping everytime without doing anything productive

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specially with how theyre program

fresh bronze
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prob not i havent used bio more than 4 times in 200 hours of gameplay but ive always found the width of the radius to be a bit weird

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bots yeah i can see it

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ive noticed that bots with bio go through ammo a lot slower

fallow wasp
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bio bots just happen to be superior to most creatures

nocturne flax
fresh bronze
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but once again just a fundamental issues with bots having weird priorities

nocturne flax
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Not really a weird since that what you want from the bot

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weird its that we dont have level dependand consumable slots

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weird its not entering extraction scans?? like whut

fresh bronze
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id agree but if there is one striker 2 rooms away not pinged and 10 attacking me id rather the bot fight the 10 attacking me than ping the one 2 rooms away

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similar to how if im down and there is a enemy attacking the bot id rather the bot kill the enemy then revive me

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just a weird priority thing

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not many solutions to it unfortunately

nocturne flax
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if you have 1 bot they will just revive you instantly, if you have 2 then only 1 will be picked to be the reviver (unless its bugged again)

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if your getting swarmed by 10 enemies then i highly recommend you switch your strat

fresh bronze
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its a example

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exaggeration to make it more clear what im tryna say

nocturne flax
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also it only takes like 2 -3seconds for the bot to ping

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what you wanna have with bots its that if you have a either alarm or your drama state on loud for longer time they just switch to weapons only

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because the melee logic gets in the way

fallow wasp
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I will always remember when I got clobbered by a giant, and all three bots took turns also getting clobbered in an attempt to revive me

fresh bronze
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Regardless this convo is straying very far from original course and im not feeling like arguing atm so ima go play valheim

velvet linden
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this man has lost the argument

atomic escarp
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is it really an argument

fresh bronze
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Wasnt even tryna argue bro this is typical gtfo server shinanigans

nocturne flax
atomic escarp
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more like devs need to do their job

nocturne flax
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but apparently this is a argument

fallow wasp
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people really do be going towards GTFO chat to pick a side and feel attacked

nocturne flax
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i think your just sensible

velvet linden
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black dragon I’ll argue with you any time

nocturne flax
deft kiln
nocturne flax
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and do challenges by doing it the boring way

fresh bronze
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I didnt see any way to really respond without making it one without just flat out agreeing to everything you say which isnt much of a conversation

velvet linden
nocturne flax
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we should sit in the bathroom to farm kills

fresh bronze
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and dont wanna be that guy who lets my man type 8 lines without getting a response

fallow wasp
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Okay but remember that mothers are immune to cfoam

velvet linden
fallow wasp
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and also the immortal can be killed with 8 tripmines at once

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and scout calls can be interrupted with 3 shotgun blasts to the head before they finish

half hornet
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Wut

velvet linden
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this is some top tier info

nocturne flax
velvet linden
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can you please join pubs and tell them all this

fallow wasp
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no problem I learned from reddit

nocturne flax
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You already know

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earn some MONii

velvet linden
fallow wasp
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I wish HEL ammo didn't lose damage after passing through a target

nocturne flax
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so we can have that on rundown 8

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hopefully

fresh bronze
# atomic escarp real G

on top of that i just wanna play valheim this shits been so much fun with mods im actually just addicted to it like cocaine

atomic escarp
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for what purpose exactly? threatening? 🔪

nocturne flax
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send that shit to calle directly

nocturne flax
atomic escarp
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gon be light work
r6 r7 and then 😴

fallow wasp
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If calle is lurking I hope he is having a most delightful evening

velvet linden
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I sent Calle my sex playlist and he hasn’t gotten back to me

nocturne flax
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i hope you hate me

fresh bronze
nocturne flax
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I bought that game a long time ago

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when it release

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and i kinda just cut trees for like 3 hours

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and was like this shit boring

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probably a skill issue on my end

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and didnt explore enough

fresh bronze
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i cut down a tree and got killed by it falling on me and thats when i got hooked

velvet linden
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dumbass

fallow wasp
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I cut down a tree and died just because

atomic escarp
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cut tree

velvet linden
fresh bronze
coarse berry
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ern sum munee?

smoky spear
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in alt r5e1, I encountered snatcher. I thought it used to be a tank in the blood door zone_542 and snatcher doesnt appear anywhere in r5e1. when did it change and what condition makes the snatcher to spawn?

half hornet
# smoky spear in alt r5e1, I encountered snatcher. I thought it used to be a tank in the blood...

They wanted to originally do that with ALT 5 but it failed and instead the changes were applied only when they deployed alt R6.

No one reported anything up until then, because people just assumed that everything is as it should be, but once R6 came around everyone got surprised by the snatcher and started reporting it, only for 10C to confirm that it was the intended change that somehow only applied with deployment of ALT R6.

TLDR: Classic GTFO moment.

west crow
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You talk like a white man video essay

nocturne flax
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atelast my weiner is

west crow
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BLACK

nocturne flax
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toasty

smoky spear
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i just met snatcher at the very last class 4 alarm but im not sure if it actually triggers

plush basin
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I thought it was the blood door

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Oh right but there is one at the end too, thats probs the last alarm

smoky spear
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me and my mate prepared like 7 tripmines to dmg tank, but the tank wasnt there and we thought it was bugged or something

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played with two bots

half hornet
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Nope that's normal. There are snatchers now. The change has mostly gone undocumented minus Calle's messages around there.
I know for a fact there's one behind blood door, but no idea for the rest.

raven depot
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знаете в чём проблема скринов типа одиночного забег

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можно просто вконце ботов удалить и ты типа один прошёл

half hornet
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We know.

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Video proof is the superior option.

deft kiln
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the best play is to trigger snatcher kill it

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then c foam and start the alarm

winter wharf
twin dirge
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explosive diarrhea

tough atlas
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Is it actually proven that shooter bug is something you get after leaving the game open for too long? I got that yesterday at the second expedition I did and I'm pretty sure I had GTFO open for 30mins, 1 hour at most

half hornet
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What's shooter bug again?

native lily
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I think they target above you or something if your memory runs out

atomic escarp
deft kiln
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But the exact cause is publicly unknown because we haven’t looked into it

idle nacelle
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when you have infection resist boosters < 100% does that cap your max infection or does it just slow the rate at which you gain it?

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i.e. if you have infection resist 50% do you gain it 50% slower or do you stop gaining it at 50%

idle nacelle
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ah ok

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that's kinda sad

meager nebula
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It can significantly reduce the rate of buildup though, and past 95% resistance you can literally stand in infection for 20 minutes and gain maybe 1% infection

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Effectively immune

idle nacelle
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yeah I was wondering how much it would have been worth, for example, not taking the aggressive one and just using the muted and bold boosters which tops you out at something like 80%

native lily
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100% removes it entirely though its effectively cheesing part of the level out of existance

idle nacelle
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yeah

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knew that was how it happened with 100% just didn't know what non 100% would be like

fresh bronze
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would honestly make more sense to have it work like regen cap imo

frail horizon
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how does infection resist work with r5e1

eternal dragon
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Just sit in the fog and your infection will go away

frail horizon
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what

eternal dragon
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Even if you drop in with 100% infection resist you will start fully infected. But if you stay in the fog your infection will go down over time.

half hornet
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To 85% or like completely.

winter wharf
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completely

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because this game fucking sucks

west crow
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Without kaiser these channels are quieter

half hornet
frail horizon
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does that happen with 99%

olive shoal
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No

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It’d only happen with over 100% infect resist

fallow wasp
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101% resist means the infection fog is good for you

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minty fresh

atomic escarp
pseudo lily
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that’s what grandmama always says

bold widget
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gah dam

eternal dragon
atomic escarp
late bloom
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The tick-down-speed depends on how much you are above 100%

olive shoal
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do you always feel the need to repeat what others have said but just in different wording

velvet linden
olive shoal
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thanks! Didn’t know this

winter wharf
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did you know that if you go over 100% on the taking the piss counter than it ticks down peoples attitudes

deft kiln
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It means getting spat on makes things better

olive shoal
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True…

coarse berry
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Just like real life

raven depot
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many scans on r6d2 or not?

west crow
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sentries used to do double damage when placed behind an enemy as they counted as a player agent

olive shoal
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its true

velvet linden
west crow
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it's true

deft kiln
west crow
deft kiln
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Thanks

narrow gulch
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you should dm it to them as well

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just to be sure

west crow
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they have me blocked

narrow gulch
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🫢 how will they get the information they need then???
please, someone else has to post it for them

west crow
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hel rifle

deft kiln
wary olive
olive shoal
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thanks ryk

wary olive
fallow wasp
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Was doing R4D2PE with some folk and we all died during extraction

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I’d be heartbroken if I hadn’t already finished it before, but I think we could have put sentries down to help fight

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At least I think they had ammo

half hornet
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Kekium

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When extracting - you deploy EVERYTHING

real moss
half hornet
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I haven't seen Luna in a while

real moss
half hornet
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Him?... More like Lun... Whatever. Anyway: I was wondering how his adventure went. Last I heard he was on R4As doing some PEs (getting carried).

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Did he finally had enough of a game that was clearly not vibing with him?

real moss
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I have more respect for new players like Elbow. who seem to actually try to play the game

half hornet
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Would be a shame if he didn't even clear R6 and 7 golden paths.

real moss
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But in the end, whatevs

atomic escarp
idle nacelle
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you don't get prizes for coming back with ammo

lyric knot
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You get a gold medal if you extract with the fog turbine

ornate river
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Any how i can do better on R1C1?

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im getting stuck so much on every turn

deft kiln
ornate river
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near the main terminal...

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is that not a good place?

deft kiln
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So most people would say that isn’t the best place

lyric knot
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Hold the bridge

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Its 2 zones from the terminal

deft kiln
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^

ornate river
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gotcha

deft kiln
ornate river
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i am holding very well with bots

ornate river
lyric knot
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3 turrets?

ornate river
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🙂

daring pilot
# ornate river Any how i can do better on R1C1?

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like sniper rifle is useful (especially for hybrids that will launch a 40 dmg barrage from across the map). as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

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this is the R1C1 copypasta

deft kiln
lyric knot
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Auto sentries are not that good

deft kiln
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Hel auto just burns through tool

ornate river
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;-;

deft kiln
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Yeah that is the best pet of hel auto

lyric knot
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Burst sentries can actually kill enemies tho

ornate river
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noted

lyric knot
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I don't believe they get any help from the biotraker so maybe 4 is good on that level

ornate river
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the bio tags

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gives 2 sentries a extra buff

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besides the lock on

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its on the wiki

lyric knot
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And it enables all turrets to target shadow enemies

ornate river
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says here that it have a CHANCE that

deft kiln
ornate river
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less one bullet spent ?

deft kiln
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One extra one should do

deft kiln
ornate river
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weirdly so

deft kiln
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It is always the case it uses less ammo on tagged people

lyric knot
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Yeah one extra player makes a world of difference, the bots can be very annoying with levels that require holding fog turbines/power cells.

ornate river
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but they phase through walls to get to me

lyric knot
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They do phase through walls but the power cell phases from their hands to the floor.

ornate river
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Yay

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i just did R1C1

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jesus the amount of them on 6th wave is so much

half hornet
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heh

lyric knot
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Nice job el gato, the rest of R1 is a breeze

cosmic quail
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R1 moment

ornate river
lyric knot
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You retrieve a bunch of decoders while enemies spawn behind you

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You will be under pressure but its manageable

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In this level you will want biotracker

balmy robin
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This is R2C2 though.

ornate river
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oh

balmy robin
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In R1C2 you get to experience some new dangers, but the objective is something you have already done :)

idle nacelle
idle nacelle
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most constant pressure scenarios are either intense but have a definite endpoint (see R6 errors) or relatively weak but for the entire level (intensity relative to ammo/tool you're given)

ornate river
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omg

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R1C2 hits different

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what even are those spiky things

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i didnt even got enough time to shoot those thing on that specific alarm

drowsy gulch
ornate river
real moss
half hornet
# ornate river what even are those spiky things

They're called chargers and they're basically directly upgraded biters.
50% more HP (20 > 30), notably increased attack range, know how to throw hands on close range contact which makes it hard to melee-duel them (bots most affected), and probably the most unique feature: their heads do not count as weakpoints, so no bonus damage for headshoting them - at best they simply get staggered once head pops.

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You'll learn to hate them over time.

ornate river
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about that

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ive been using the hel rifle by alot

half hornet
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Gud. Its pretty much a counter pick against them.

ornate river
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but its just slow to clean them up

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with bots

prisma zodiac
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hel rifle fucks chargers like they try to do to you

prisma zodiac
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cue cursed dakstar giant charger copypasta

half hornet
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HAR should do alright against them too, but i don't know

ornate river
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guessed i choosed to right weapons

balmy robin
ornate river
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i love oneshotting 5 of them

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in a straight line

half hornet
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30/5 = 6 bullets to kill, and you have 30 in mag so that 5 dead spikemen (4 if you miss even once)

ornate river
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i missed an entire mag

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trying to hit them 40m away

half hornet
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That too, but chances are you're not sniping with HAR (nor should you, really)

real moss
prisma zodiac
kind swan
idle nacelle
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chokemod also deals with chargers decently but deffo lower kill potential than hel rifle

crude venture
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Me and my mates are stuck on r7 d1 overload, we are dying in the room after the fog snatchers any tips or is it just a skissiue

daring pilot
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I just wouldn’t do overload on that mission; it’s bugged and spawns multiple snatchers

plush basin
daring pilot
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This works too

crude venture
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Oh wait it's only meant to spawn 1?

plush basin
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Yep, pretty bugged

crude venture
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It spawned 4 last time and 1 lile 5 mins after 😭😭😭

plush basin
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If you have everyone bar the host disconnect, THEN put the terminal command in, THEN have everyone rejoin, you should only have 1 spawn each time

crude venture
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That's really good actually the struggle was the snatchers then the room

idle nacelle
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yeah they arent actually that bad when its only one or two

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essentially you just set a timer and dont be anywhere near sleeping enemies when you are about to have a snatcher

crude venture
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That's crazy it just spawns more lol

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But the shadow sleeper room is also not fun especially when I can't hear the enemies cuz my pc is messed up secondary

idle nacelle
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r7d1 is notorious for its buggyness

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but aside from that its not too bad

crude venture
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Weird

plain saddle
crude venture
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Honestly forgot pdw exists I usually run the shotgun main forgot what it's called

crude venture
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Anymore notable bugs aside from the snatcher thing on the mission?

idle nacelle
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mostly the snatcher thing, but I had the neonate teleport around a lot and a few other fun ones

crude venture
prisma zodiac
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huh musicmommyThink

plush basin
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Story mission in yellow I reckon

crude venture
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My bad I mean main as in its yellow doesn't that mean it's like the main mission not the difficulty

deft kiln
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BEst method

chrome rivet
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What is the worst/hardest singular zone in this game?

half hornet
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ZONE? As in a room?

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A genuinely hard pick

chrome rivet
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While a single room is a little too small, but an entire zone

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My top picks are R7C2 overload with that first zone or R7E1 mother zone

half hornet
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R4E1 shadow caves and R7C3overload (both pre-scan and post-scan) are close contenders.

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Or that one room in R5E1 that you're meant to sneak by and not fight.

chrome rivet
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definitly, and R4E1 seconadary mother zone is the WORST

half hornet
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If there's a room out there that'just BBCs for days - that one would be a contender too

prisma zodiac
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circumstances play into it

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cuz a zone alone is different than with an error

half hornet
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For sake of argument lets say no error alarms or whatever

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Because that's just cheating, IMHO

prisma zodiac
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i mean its party of level design

narrow gulch
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id probably give it to r7e1

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how bad is r5d2 last code room

prisma zodiac
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1 mom 1 scout, smalls n a few giants

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oh code room

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Eh

half hornet
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Yeah, that one

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Honestly not that bad if it wasn't for error

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Or, well... Reactor spam.

prisma zodiac
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its charger scouts plus chargers n bbcs

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moms make it rougher

chrome rivet
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That sounds pretty bad, ive never been in there so I can't say how bad it is

prisma zodiac
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just 4 sleeping enemies

chrome rivet
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But if they wake up its an instant game over

prisma zodiac
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Not necessarily

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just hard to stabilize

narrow gulch
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yeah I wasnt sure exactly how many bbcs it was

chrome rivet
narrow gulch
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cuz its pretty wipeable

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but yeah moms are generally just worse

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4 moms on r4e1 is kinda hard to beat

prisma zodiac
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is there any zone with shadow giants and moms or tanks?

prisma zodiac
narrow gulch
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oh

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ig it wasnt implied waking it up

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mb

prisma zodiac
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if its waking up then id also argue its r7e1

2 moms + like 4 scouts + tons of babies > 4 moms

crude venture
prisma zodiac
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Oh theres also r5d1 tank key room

narrow gulch
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eh

prisma zodiac
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tank + lots of bbcs and lots of chargers

narrow gulch
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id say r5d2s room is worse

prisma zodiac
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similar to r5e1 tank zone but more

narrow gulch
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r5e1 maybe???

prisma zodiac
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R3D1 >>> r5d2

narrow gulch
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but also cuz of the scout wave on that levele

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oh trueeee

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how could I forget

chrome rivet
chrome rivet
prisma zodiac
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looks hilarious

chrome rivet
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but you can usually pull that zone pretty easily

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as long as scout is dead

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if not it makes things a bit more complicated

narrow gulch
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hm

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by using a horrible metric of cell skipping r5e1 and waking the FULL zone all at once

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id give it to tank zone

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but that is a horrible metric

prisma zodiac
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look at the clip i posted in media

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r7e1 > that

narrow gulch
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recoverable

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/j

prisma zodiac
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didnt reach reactor

narrow gulch
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the problem there is

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even if you recover it

prisma zodiac
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couldve recovered with the ammo

narrow gulch
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youre so behind on resources

winter wharf
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I think you have just enough resources, so long as you get through the zone cleanly

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also depends on whether or not you get lucky with resource spawns where resources spawn in thunderdome and the zone between thunderdome and the stealth zones

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it's doable, I trust

prisma zodiac
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Man im thinking of how to get that bread scream as a sound file

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anybody know a simple way?

winter wharf
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uh what I'd normally do is use VLC media player to convert an mp4 to an mp3 and then just clip what I want in audacity

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that is how I have like, 5 bobo sound files on my pc

prisma zodiac
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that scream is so good

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you might wanna explain me that tmrw

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When it isnt 1 am

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well today?

balmy robin
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Handbrake works as well

prisma zodiac
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ya know

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what i mean

balmy robin
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Good night though

winter wharf
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if you have mp4 then I can get the scream

prisma zodiac
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i have clip and vod florkShrug1

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im tech illiterate

winter wharf
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I guess I find an online twitch clip downloader and then get you the scream within 20 mins

prisma zodiac
still mica
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Buying gf

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Must have knowledge of r8 and enjoy listening to me talk about monkeys

kind swan
solemn wigeon
kind swan
fallow wasp
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Damn rainbow 6 was so good they made 2 more

real moss
fallow wasp
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Imagine

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They could probably do that though

real moss
kind swan
real moss
kind swan
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That's where the fun was at

real moss
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have not tested it out myself tho

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been so long....

lyric knot
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Does multiplayer work with rundown mods?

errant vigil
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If everyone has the rundown mod and it’s dependencies yea

lyric knot
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I don't have to do any of that port forwarding shenanigans?

winter wharf
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you should just be able to join as usual if everyone has the correct mods

lyric knot
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Ok thanks.

chrome rivet
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-1,000,000 social credit for talking about mods

coarse berry
balmy robin
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It uses steam to generate that unique ID you copy-paste to join a game, as well as PlayFab (hosted by Microsoft, unless I am mistaken ?) to keep track of the player progression

lyric knot
nocturne flax
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what you consider now normal really wasnt normal for this game back then

atomic escarp
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sends death threats

cunning herald
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never beat R6D3 before but we always go for overload before main for shits and giggles

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little did we know it didn’t end at the error alarm

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you can leave the overload, but the overload doesn’t leave you

hexed vapor
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Is Secondary R7C2 a softlock if you do it before Main?

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Or just goofy alt route?

astral ferry
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pretty sure it's a soft lock

deft kiln
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Correct

hexed vapor
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Team, it is not a soft lock

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It is a neat and goofy alt route.

late bloom
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you just do the teleports in the wrong order

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so stupid

deft kiln
late bloom
deft kiln
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You used to be able to soft lock in so many ways

plain saddle
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Goofy alt route, I believe it makes the enemy waves different too. As in, the waves are tied to which teleport it is, but the objective is tied to which order you do them in, so you can get strikers on the scans if you do secondary first

late bloom
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so funny

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but i remember it beeing a bit weird and after starting scans we got double waves ite some shit

tough atlas
#

I remember something abour r7c2 on release fucking up permanently if you didnt finish main before going to secondary but maybe I just remember wrong

late bloom
tough atlas
real moss
ornate river
#

Yay

#

ive finnished all R1

#

what should i move on to next?

plush basin
#

R2

#

congrats 🙂

kind swan
#

Reminded me of the "5 hour RXBX clear" and then the dev was like. "Now Do go and do RXCX"

#

Iirc it was R7B3

#

The next up chronologically speaking would then be R7C1

real moss
#

seems straightforward

ornate river
kind swan
#

R2 will be where it ramps up a bit and newer mechanics

ornate river
#

what should i expect of R2?

royal lichen
#

all fun and games until c2.. and e1 got something fun for ya 🙂

plush basin
kind swan
#

Now I've got Kaiser DMing me but I'm @work

royal lichen
#

c2, d2, e1 mwah 👌

kind swan
#

INFECTION

#

Iirc.

half hornet
tough atlas
#

also you're going to meet ||uplink terminals|| for the first time

real moss
real moss
half hornet
#

I keep forgetting that one

real moss
half hornet
#

I don't have the time man

real moss
ornate river
#

A1's kinda easy so far

real moss
ornate river
#

btw what is that green stuff at the floor?

half hornet
#

As are easy period

plush basin
half hornet
#

except for one

real moss
#

A's are always easy

ornate river
real moss
#

even PE

ornate river
#

EWW

#

what is this green bar

#

HUH?

plush basin
#

congratulations, you have lowered your maximum health

half hornet
#

It's a permanent max HP nerf

balmy robin
ornate river
#

how do i get rid of that shite

plush basin
#

you huffed the spiced fog

half hornet
#

20% infection means your HP will slowly go down to 80% whenever you have more.

plush basin
#

you need to disinfect yourself

half hornet
#

You can get infected up to 99%, but it will heal itself to 85% when you're out of the fog.

real moss
tough atlas
ornate river
half hornet
#

Yep

real moss
#

Why tho?

#

for pinging 😂

tough atlas
ornate river
#

does it affect anything from health issues?

tough atlas
#

(personally I didnt mind him at all but I guess rules are rules)

half hornet
#

Kaiser was using all of the mods

#

Someone got him with modlist

ornate river
#

jesus my guy coughs up a storm

real moss
half hornet
#

Wait until you use a terminal

ornate river
#

does this fog gives you stage 4 cancer what is this

frail horizon
#

kaiser's gone?!

real moss
#

so whatevs

frail horizon
#

oh my

real moss
ornate river
#

it only gave me broken ribcage when i try to breathe

kind swan
real moss
kind swan
#

He does occasionally message my DMs here and there to play smth. Which personally idc much for mod use as long as it isn't borderline godmode/inf ammo/ oneshot kill type stuff

#

But I do get he used them in this server so rip

whole umbra
kind swan
west crow
#

no lol

balmy robin
#

I would rather wait for official ones :)

#

(But will still pester the devs until they provide some ^^ )

#

I meant by "released intentionaly by the devs"

#

I know of unintentional ones, but they should never have been

#

Please keep in mind that datamining is against the server rules.

kind swan
balmy robin
#

I loved Ludvig leaks

deft kiln
#

All this talk about leaks

kind swan
#

I miss when Jish was actually named Jish

deft kiln
#

i got you

kind swan
narrow gulch
#

for the fans

wanton horizon
#

Is there a strat for kiting Pablo?

#

He just seems to choose targets randomly

deft kiln
hexed vapor
#

Taking damage also causes him to retarget.

deft kiln
#

^^^

#

If you need to “hold” him you can shoot him so he continues to look at you

deft kiln
mellow creek
#

my dead grandma just wokeup from the dead

#

and ask me when r8

broken scarab
daring pilot
ornate river
#

I just did R2 A tiers and B tiers done

#

what should i be worrying about later tiers

real moss
ornate river
#

fair

real moss
#

R2 shines on D and above. I'll say that

lyric knot
# ornate river fair

If you are still playing with bots, you should stop after R2D1, R2D2 is going to be very tough if you aren't very experienced.

frail horizon
#

depends on how many

hallow lark
#

Im propably gunna take some rest from GTFO... We finished R4E1...

ornate river
#

honestly the uplink shadows arent that scary

real moss
#

you'll see.

#

And R2E1 is another step above those 2

cunning herald
#

in an alternate universe Sisyphus was cursed with playing D4 with unending cycles

cunning herald
#

is the fog version the last layer

#

i got there and died and it was like 5am so i just went to bed

real moss
#

then it's just way to extract

real moss
glossy crescent
idle nacelle
lyric knot
#

Whats the strat for r4d2? I did overload (without picking up cargo) into secondary, into main. Then I went back after opening the extraction for the cargo and had no ammo and 100% infection for the shadow error.

#

Got overwhelmed and died

winter wharf
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

lyric knot
#

How are you supposed to have ammo by that time

#

Is the fog always rising or is it set to rise to a certain amount?

#

We just rushed the main alarms after finishing secondary and did 0 of the side rooms

winter wharf
#

always rising

#

you rush forward, find all the resource, use good guns, shoot well

real moss
#

You can always leave the ovl ammo and tool to be 100% sure to have stuff when grabbing cargo

tough atlas
#

He can cheese some alarms with foam if he really want

#

But I assume that for ammo he also meant tool

real moss
ornate river
#

Yes

#

Ive did R2C2

#

After 2 tries

half hornet
#

Acceptable amount of tries for that level.

olive shoal
#

Some alarms it’s better to just foam them if you have the tool

#

But if you aren’t going the foam strat I’d bring hel weapons

#

You just want to save on ammo as best you can while doing the main alarms

#

In my experiences you are never swimming in ammo so ignore djdna

deft kiln
#

You can also do quick side rooms to grab ammo

half hornet
#

There is an optional resource zone somewhere, but you'll suffer infection for it.

deft kiln
#

Na you don’t

#

If you are just good

#

Just don’t be slow

half hornet
#

I actually never seen inside that room.

olive shoal
#

the resource rooms aren’t necessary but if you rlly want more you can just grab them yeah

#

I have 0 idea what they look like in the alt version

olive shoal
#

Surge requires a cell

prisma zodiac
#

the surge

#

imagine doing a surge and the side zone with cell for that

deft kiln
#

Yeah don’t you just get it for free

olive shoal
#

the cell is in the first side zone

#

The zone before the surge

prisma zodiac
#

if you play main only, yea no worries

deft kiln
#

You get 8 uses of ammo 4 first and 4 second

prisma zodiac
#

but pe why bother

olive shoal
#

if you’re slow it’s worth

deft kiln
olive shoal
#

you can probs do both

#

I just never have

prisma zodiac
#

honestly i feel like if you struggle with ammo

#

then a surge isnt gonna help you

#

not because you lack ammo after

#

but because you probably will die on it

olive shoal
#

that tile is quite chill tbh

deft kiln
#

The surge is less that a wave

prisma zodiac
#

yea

#

but remember

#

if you struggle with ammo there you are struggling on a lot of things

half hornet
#

I don't remember how my clear went, but ammo didn't feel to be the problem.

olive shoal
#

ammo is usually the issue

#

Or if it’s not

late nebula
half hornet
#

Surviving the fucking class bazzilion charger alarms was a bigger problem

late nebula
#

Me with sleepers

deft kiln
#

It was the issue with our clears

olive shoal
#

There’s a specific zone where the shadow error rlly fucks you over

deft kiln
#

Mainly because we kill to fast tbh

olive shoal
#

it’s been the cause of some very scary situations

deft kiln
#

The class 8 we end up dealing with like 10 waves of chargers because of hel rilfe lines

olive shoal
#

yup

deft kiln
#

It honestly might be better on ammo

#

To shoot the class 7 then foam the class 8

olive shoal
#

idk tbh

west crow
#

Do not kill the charger waves too fast!

#

Instant spawn!

#

!lfg

kind swan
lyric knot
#

I wasn't struggling with the charger alarms, it was just going back to the extract with the cargo. I didn't have any foam so maybe that's one if the reasons it was tough.

#

Would have been much easier if the bots would pickup the cargo

nocturne flax
#

What did i miss

deft kiln
#

Also I agree with this I think

narrow gulch
#

media has everything interesting I think

deft kiln
nocturne flax
#

Your just opening a conversation thats been already talked

deft kiln
#

We always go over the same content

nocturne flax
#

I know

#

Most my testing was with 2+2 setting so i always tought they where fine

#

But when you play 1 +3 you endup cheesing them so i dont count them

narrow gulch
#

I should check if r2e1 is doable by 2 bots alone

nocturne flax
#

And even then its the same shit as one of the older version

#

You guys just dont know

#

But eastern gonna change that and add config file next uptdate so 🙏

deft kiln
#

Massive

narrow gulch
#

were gonna have solo with better bots configed posts now

#

lets goo

nocturne flax
#

And also still qol

#

So sugma

narrow gulch
#

you sound like a terraria player

nocturne flax
#

Not really

#

Just because the feature works as intended or its better doesnt mean its a cheat

deft kiln
narrow gulch
#

its slang for suggestion

deft kiln
#

Oh I love sugmas

nocturne flax
#

But yeah use betterbots people

#

Just watch how in r8 they will grab the code from the mod

#

And slap it in there as qol

#

Like they did this patch

deft kiln
#

No

#

Dragon I don’t want to have to grind e clears with bots

nocturne flax
#

Why would you wanna do that

#

This a dead game

deft kiln
hexed vapor
#

R4E1 was harder, but only for the tank section, since it's the only section that better bots don't completely trivialize.

#

You can just walk through 4 moms and shoot them.

#

Reworking the bots to be better at more things is an idea, but outright buffing them is way too much.

#

Also, I think people were a bit less mean to Azert before because the impression was that BetterBots was only a little cheesy.

#

But it's on-par w/ actual cheats.

eternal dragon
#

It’s a game enhancer

nocturne flax
hexed vapor
#

Or are you just oblivious?

#

Go play through R5E1 w/ Better Bots

nocturne flax
#

0.05 removed the 10% damage buff and such of bots

hexed vapor
#

They are just insanely strong.

coarse berry
#

better bots had a flat-out damage buff at one point? LOL

fresh bronze
#

Tried the Ver 0.2 of better bots and it doesnt feel like a major buff and it seemed to fix the bots not standing in circles

#

that is so far, only have played a few duo runs with the mod

#

If bugs persist im prob gonna drop the mod but so far i like it who knows could just be coincidence

nocturne flax
#

The mod doesnt fix that

#

It only fixes what it listed

fresh bronze
#

as i said we will see

ornate river
#

jesus R2D1 is rough

#

the amount of enemies stacked up is very lore cannon to the game

hexed vapor
ornate river
#

thick ass fog that is

#

but i do know that it lowers per cell inserted

#

sneaking through fog and tryna kill scout in a ocean of enemies is gonna be a good test i guess

real moss
ornate river
#

But i do try to walk in fog to just focus the scout first

nocturne flax
tough atlas
#

Only things normal bots needed was the ability to pick shit up during alarms (which was already in vanilla IIRC) and MAYBE be a bit less idiotic when it comes to chargers and whatnot (I still remember doing r3c1 with vanilla bots, but sometimes they tried to hammer charger waves in r1c2 for no reason)

#

Considering the advantages bots already have built in (cant wake shit up, cant get infected, can see through fog/darkness, can see shadows), anything more than that IMHO feels wrong

#

I've been told older versions were way less broken

#

In any event I think they're going to be an option for people that REALLY dont want to play with others and still want to do some maps that are a pain with vanilla bots, but at that point everything becomes fair since they're just playing alone

hexed vapor
orchid kindle
#

even I admit it makes them too good

obsidian pilot
#

Why no one upadates mod that fix sniper melee

real moss
#

So that mod is now useless

obsidian pilot
winter wharf
#

Sniper melee hasnt been a thing for like, 2 years or something

half hornet
#

It was either Rundown 7 or one of its' patches. ALT R1 at worst. Which is... Yeah, about one-and-a-half year.

warm burrow
#

Ey so for R6D3 is there specific order to shut down alarm or can I do overload and go wait for surge to start at the terminal and immediately put code in ?

atomic escarp
#

and im aware that bots are busted

#

hence why i use an older version but seeing people talk bout it is fun

atomic escarp
real moss
#

in the case of last one you cancel the surge with the ovl command yes

atomic escarp
real moss
atomic escarp
atomic escarp
real moss
atomic escarp
real moss
atomic escarp
#

🫡

real moss
atomic escarp
#

ah u lil shit

orchid kindle
atomic escarp
orchid kindle
#

that won't stop me

atomic escarp
#

ill fry you if i have to

real moss
atomic escarp
real moss
#

nothing, but there are worse things

hexed vapor
atomic escarp
tough atlas
#

If you put the code BEFORE the main surge alarm begins, you're going to only delete the alarm for overload

#

Instead of both

coarse berry
#

how can you do that?

#

Don't you need the key from overload?

hexed vapor
coarse berry
#

Am I misremembering how that level works

#

oh is sleepo saying to keep the error going while you do reactor?

hexed vapor
#

You don't lock yourself out of keys by doing Main before Overload.

#

It is just the surge timer.

coarse berry
#

damn so I didn't have to fight a reactor in ceiling-high-fog?

hexed vapor
#

Nope.

#

Of the weird routes in that level, that one is probably the cheesiest.

real moss
#

Altho 15 min is quite enough

coarse berry
#

yeah i was gonna say thats odd

#

me and a buddy just got the 5 ID's with time to spare

prisma zodiac
#

15 min is super calm to do, but yea its cheesy

coarse berry
#

it seems like more work to go disable the surge

prisma zodiac
#

honesty, the fog isnt even that bad

prisma zodiac
#

you hold on high grounds often anyway

real moss
#

no fog, fast wave clearing

prisma zodiac
#

i know

tough atlas
#

For the record I did it with fog in the OG

#

If I've to be sincere perhaps doing overload after main is a bit easier

fresh bronze
#

Finally beat r2d2 as a duo with my friend, took forever to get around to it but man my friend was getting so tilted by the bots shooting him

#

@hexed vapor #gtfo-media message yeah my friend placed the bots sentry there and yeah it was def a mistake still managed to get the code in with 2 seconds remaining

hexed vapor
#

Very fortunate.

ornate river
#

ouch

#

ive beaten R2D1

#

but next to that ive failed like 7 times now on D2

#

very rough cause the password isnt a displayed one?

real moss
#

go and get it

half hornet
#

R2D2?

real moss
half hornet
#

I wanted to, but frankly I don't remember how it works either.

real moss
half hornet
#

It's basically R1C1 with extra steps. Codes are not given to you for free anymore, which will quickly become a standard for reactors going forward.

tough atlas
#

With 1 exception they all only give 1-2 codes for free

#

Which makes me wonder why?

#

I feel like you could cut those from reactor and make it just be codes you have to fetch

plush basin
half hornet
#

Slow introduction

#

They lure you into thinking you've done this before

#

And then Warden hits you with "Oops, can't fetch this one... You'll have to get it yourself."
"I have to do what now?"
(timer kicks in)

alpine spindle
real moss
#

no free codes

#

R7E1 too btw

tough atlas
#

I should have rephrased

#

You're right but what I meant is

real moss
#

Sleepo is hereby guilty

alpine spindle
#

Most would've been a good word

#

Lol

tough atlas
#

Only 2 maps give ALL their codes for free

plush basin
#

Wrong!

real moss
tough atlas
real moss
#

more misinformation

tough atlas
#

What am I missing?

plush basin
#

R6D1

tough atlas
#

Ah right

alpine spindle
#

Lol

real moss
alpine spindle
#

I don't know R6D1 reactor

#

What is it

half hornet
#

Free.

#

Fully.

plush basin
#

far far to the east, beyond the sleeping giants...

real moss
alpine spindle
#

Damn

#

Free and far away

real moss
#

faster to just do class VI immediatly

alpine spindle
#

I know no such thing

#

Reactor skip for the win

real moss
#

Why waste your time on that awful mission

half hornet
#

Shooting galleries are fun

plush basin
#

Damn GTFO players just wanna skip everything and not play the game why we even play at all ong we obama

tough atlas
#

I AM NOT OBAMA :(((

alpine spindle
#

Cell skip and then reactor skip

#

We need more skips

#

Brazil skip too

#

But that one is pretty difficult

real moss
alpine spindle
tough atlas
#

You need chest hair for that

alpine spindle
#

^^^

real moss
tough atlas
#

Does DJDNA come provided with chest hair?

real moss
tough atlas
plush basin
#

LF3M R4E1Ex don't join if you don't have chest hair

real moss
#

No the beard does not mean I am from middle east

tough atlas
real moss
plush basin
#

He's asked her so many times the answer is always the same tho

real moss
plush basin
#

Oh sorry

tough atlas
#

Brits backstabbing France

#

Bizzarro-world

real moss
plush basin
#

alright gottem

real moss
prisma zodiac
alpine spindle
prisma zodiac
#

R7C1

alpine spindle
#

Oh ye

prisma zodiac
#

its the easiests one of them but definetly challenging in its own right

eternal dragon
#

is it that one where you jump over the fog?

late bloom
eternal dragon
#

jump over the cell?

chrome rivet
#

Yo new achievments added lets gooooo

half hornet
#

Did you just noticed or did they actually?

#

There were testing ones, but theyre old news with no promises

#

I don't see anything different there... Although there's no 5 achievements, not 4... I swear there was 4.

#

X Y Z
0/27

#

Uhhhh, how many guns there are?...

plush basin
#

More than 27

half hornet
#

30 forearms and 4 melees. Not it.

#

Hmmmmm

#

What could there possibly be 27 of

#

Optional objectives? PEs?

#

Oh god, don't let it be all of the PEs

#

Nope, there's only ~17 in the game right now...

#

Unless... There is another dozen in R8

#

Where is my tinfoil hat

balmy robin
#

R4 / R5 ptsd

mossy yoke
#

Literally just testing 😆

lyric knot
#

If there were achievements for completing expeditions, would i have to play through each level again to get it or would I get them all when I load up the game?

real moss
#

Filter out the weeds

half hornet
#

I mean ideally it should be the latter, but it's a coin toss with these lads.

lyric knot
#

I hope I don't have to beat r7e1 again, I was the babysitter.

mossy yoke
lyric knot
#

Thanks for the response, that is what I'm hoping for.

deft kiln
winter wharf
#

can we have an achievement for duoing an entire rundown (no boosters no cheese no hel revo montage no mods)

#

E tier rundown all optionals included (r2 bad)

frail horizon
#

id be a fan of achievements being little silly accomplishments that you passively achieve

#

like how tf2 does it

half hornet
#

Same

deft kiln
#

Kill one billion sleepers please

#

That is the one I want

half hornet
#

Do not

balmy robin
#

Break 100 000 doors

deft kiln
narrow gulch
#

Cfoam the r2e1 ladder

deft kiln
#

Beat r6d1 with only melee damage

winter wharf
#

I want elitist achievements so I can make people feel bad

#

I am villainous

#

haha you don't have the solo r1a1 speedrun in <10 minutes what a bad player

deft kiln
#

I really think the kill one billion sleeper achievements is a good idea

#

Give something to grind for

winter wharf
#

wait hang on

#

alongside having achievements

#

can we also make it so anyone running a modded client (that I don't like) has their PC explode into a million little parts

deft kiln
#

Interesting

half hornet
#

D stands for "Derailing"

plush basin
#

I think 1000 scout kills would be good I'm gonna take sniper and instashoot all of them

lyric knot
#

Deal 100,000 damage to teammates during alarms

deft kiln
narrow gulch
#

Ok but is it the actual damage dealt

#

Or is it health percentage

lyric knot
#

100,000 dead prisoners

ornate river
#

i could say without a doubt that it might be a bit harsh

#

but i completed it anyways with just 1 mag in each/ 20% hp left on extract

half hornet
#

With bots?

ornate river
half hornet
#

That's actually impressive if the case.

ornate river
#

ive been doing with all bots until now

half hornet
#

R2D2 right?

ornate river
half hornet
#

Thats genuinely impressive. Those types of levels are meant to be played with players.

ornate river
#

done R2D1 yesterday with only 3 retries

half hornet
#

I have doubts I can do it.

#

On a bad note

ornate river
half hornet
#

R2E1 is fucking impossible with bots.

ornate river
#

it did took me 17 retries for like.....

#

9hours straight of gameplay

#

didnt want to take a break cause i feel like i was so close even though i was stuck on wave 6 for half an hour repeatedly

nocturne flax
#

pls tell me you already beat every rundown

ornate river
#

i wana

nocturne flax
#

and this is just like challenge run or something

ornate river
#

nope

half hornet
#

He genuinely just got there with bots only

nocturne flax
#

this is not impressive artek

#

this is stupid

#

lmao

ornate river
#

really love grabbing the hel rifle everytime i play

#

its so good to feel that chain kill

#

but i havent gotten a feel for any of the mains

west crow
#

you should try the choke mod

ornate river
#

ive been using the carbine cause i read on wiki that it deals alot of dmg? or am i misreading

half hornet
#

No no, that's pretty accurate

#

The DPS on it is one of the highest and its an S tier gun.

ornate river
#

theres a tier list in this game?

half hornet
#

A dozen

narrow gulch
#

Not a generally agreed on one

#

But

half hornet
#

But common elements remain

ornate river
#

so we all agree that carbine is S tier?

narrow gulch
#

P much

plush basin
#

Yes

ornate river
#

i also tested out hel revolver for a fair bit of time

#

and honestly im not good with it

#

and having a small penetrating weapon to pair it with the hel rifle i always bring

#

i always get swarmed

kind swan
#

Hel pp

ornate river
#

never tried that before