gtfo-spoiler-chat

[velvet linden]

gtfo is dead

[daring pilot]

reactor skip, reactor skip

[livid heath]

Fuck

Gtfo is dead

We need GTFR

[deft kiln]

Vibe is only I could stuck jump

[livid heath]

[deft kiln]

Gtfo would be fun again

[velvet linden]

sorry, the higher ups all told me not to tell you

[deft kiln]

Fuck beep

[velvet linden]

take it up with the 4-letter B names

[livid heath]

Oh no you didn’t

Nvm

[deft kiln]

Fuck Beth

[livid heath]

Welp time to gtfo

[velvet linden]

making enemies today

[livid heath]

Yo jish can i get a smack?

[olive shoal]

ok jish

thats kinda rude

[livid heath]

[deft kiln]

Keeping stuck jump from me

[olive shoal]

also @velvet linden how am i a higher up

[livid heath]

U good at game called gtfo

U become higher up

Boom

Profit

[velvet linden]

you're the UPgrade

[olive shoal]

im the upgrade

[deft kiln]

Tbh

[livid heath]

Btw jish

[deft kiln]

You are like a side grade

[livid heath]

Where even is time1pm

[olive shoal]

gtfo style player = opinion disregarded

[livid heath]

Havent seen him in ages bruh i miss him

[deft kiln]

Time 😭😭😭😭😭

[olive shoal]

dont you have charger scouts to double hit?

[livid heath]

Where is the cat prf named mushroom

[deft kiln]

Don’t you have children to steal candy from

[livid heath]

Fuck i cant ping him

[olive shoal]

why would i be stealing candy from children

[velvet linden]

its free

[livid heath]

Free?

I guess you’re right

But the pack of parents and bystanders dont

[velvet linden]

gtfo players love a challenge

[olive shoal]

this is the overload objective

[still mica]

Do you think the cyber heist will have the same loadout system so they can finally use that drill tool from the original trailer

[velvet linden]

no, cyber heist is not coming out, sorry

[still mica]

Monkey…

[livid heath]

Monke

[velvet linden]

why don't you two take that discussion to lore channel

[cold merlin]

But that's just a theory
A monke theory

[olive shoal]

[deft kiln]

Mods we have another NLO here

[livid heath]

Man stfu chimp lore is dead

There aint no fucking way to bring it back

[deft kiln]

That isn’t what your mom said last night

[livid heath]

Damn your right

Oh wait yeah you cant bring it back

🥛

[velvet linden]

im so proud of you

[livid heath]

Thanks i needed that

Now i can sleep

[frail horizon]

chimp theory is vile

and i hate all the cultists who uphold it

[cold merlin]

alt timeline where it somehow is canon and that infected the multiverse causing the whole game scenario to happen 😤

[deft kiln]

Ah

I would

Go insane

[velvet linden]

ur just a hater

[tough atlas]

"It's totally not the chimps" wrote coz

Then he's actually one of them

Directed by R2D1 Statistics

[livid heath]

Man who is that R2D1 statistic guy

Goofy ahh lookin ass

[velvet linden]

he sounds pretty epic

[deft kiln]

I would smash play gtfo with him

[tough atlas]

He reminds me of that good chap

Charic Epman

[still mica]

R u saying alt Schaefer might be a monke?

🍌🐒

[livid heath]

Fr fr

[deft kiln]

There there is a a a a possibility Schaefer is a mon non key

[still mica]

WRDN = BNNA???????

[livid heath]

Banan

Just banan

Fuck why do i keep typing

I need sleep

[tough atlas]

sleep!

You know, there's no real reason why we sleep

[livid heath]

But the chat is alive

[tough atlas]

Neither the implications of why not sleeping is technically fatal are known to us

[cold merlin]

if you think about it, the KSOs are just very highly trained and evolved tailless monkeys

[tough atlas]

There's theories

Fun Fact: Bees can dream

[livid heath]

Woah

Yeah that fact got me

Time to mimir

And dream of me stepping into a claymore

[cold merlin]

Go get that rest and dream about pollinating flowers or something

[still mica]

Anti monkey theory is anti evolutionist

[livid heath]

Me when the Js were filled with c4s and a packet of landmines besides it

[chrome rivet]

We should get C4 in GTFO lol

https://tenor.com/view/pun-cake-i-am-wild-cat-vanoss-game-gif-9965127

[pliant pasture]

there have been ao many C3's its weird we haven't gotten a C4

[pallid swallow]

it'll be busted

[dry dagger]

It'll be a warden protocol with no ammo.

[atomic escarp]

Warden protocol on the surface with no ammo

[fresh bronze]

r6c3 was pinging the fuckin bulkhead key for secondary finally got there with 0 infection and fucking tank comes out with the waves

yeah was not expecting that

[livid heath]

heh

you will fight more on

[atomic escarp]

Kaiser my love update when

[fresh bronze]

we just ignored the overload one kek

but yeah was tryna do sec

but while pinging bulk i was alone and the tank just tokyo drifted into the room

showed me what father means

[atomic escarp]

A surprise tank is always welcome

[royal lichen]

untrue

our 5th or 6th tank of c3 was having trouble walking due to all the cheese on the floors :p

[hallow lark]

Is D3 butchered, same, or buffed

[daring pilot]

yes

[hallow lark]

Which of it?

[bold widget]

Same

Nothing really changed for r6

Everything is the same

[mellow creek]

wen r8

i need to finally delete this game

after 4 years

maybe 5

[hallow lark]

I call that untrue. The layout on A1, B1, C1, D1 has been changed almost completely

So far, CX (originally DX) has not be altered

[fresh bronze]

well best attempt was needing 2 cells and having already passed 30 minutes for r6c3

what a rough pe

[fresh bronze]

also man was made aware of one of four tanks

when the tank right at the end came

fucking scared the piss out of me cus i was just chilling having a good time

jammin out to irish sea shanties as one does so i did not hear the indicator

[bold widget]

Yes the layout

But no nerfs or buffs

Exept if you count layout as nerf and buffs

[real moss]

you forgetting the R6D4 nerfs

[storm lake]

And CX nerfs (the 3 uplinks)

[hallow lark]

Huh?

What part of that is nerfed?

[storm lake]

The uplink waves used to be way harder

[hallow lark]

Hmm… I’ve tried to help my friend on that and we failed on the uplinks

I don’t have that CX unlocked yet

[calm coral]

R6CX is still kinda tough if you can’t figure out a strat for the second uplink

[hallow lark]

I’m still going with my old R6DX strat for mid

Basically run as a team of 3 sentries/1 Mine

The 3 sentry’s can be placed in a Tri-Angle formation covering ALOT of area

But I’ll have to test that when I unlocked CX

[storm lake]

Never heard of that one, I always use 1 of each (bio, sentry (burst), mine, foam) for that one

[hallow lark]

I have soloed DX with bots, one with Bio and one Bioless

Fortunately… I still have videos of those two full run clears (mess up the start of the recording on one of em)

[hallow lark]

Top and Mid has 3 “entries”

Each sentry can be used to cover one

For Top, it’s like a “Y” formation with the terminal in the center

The Mid is like a warped “T” formation (if you think about the room layout)

Bottom is the easiest

If you want, I can provide you links to the videos in DM

[storm lake]

If you want but I already see what you mean, completed the level multiple times in the past and twice on the ALT R6

[hallow lark]

Ok

[storm lake]

Kind of a shame they reduced the size of the uplinks waves

[hallow lark]

Huh. I was not aware of that

I didn’t feel that reduction when I tried to help my friend

[calm coral]

I like using foam on that mid uplink in R6CX

[storm lake]

Yeah, it's a good strat

[hallow lark]

Hmm,.. never used foam in CX before

Cept for foam nades or something if given

I’m still surprised by the amount of foam nades in D1 reactor

Found 8 total (in or room next to reactor)

[calm coral]

yeah we just foamed tank for the fun of it

[storm lake]

I don't know why they put them there, for the tank? the waves?

[calm coral]

foaming tank then meleeing

goated strat

[storm lake]

Obviously

[hallow lark]

I was NOT pleased when I found out that Sniper Sentry doesn’t shoot it’s tumors anymore

I was doing that level as Solo with bots

[calm coral]

it can

just has to face his back

[hallow lark]

It DID

And the sentry just didn’t do anything

I was lucky enough to be using my old build of Dmr-Sniper for sake of Nostalgia

Never took an alternative Anti-Tank measure before

[calm coral]

anything works against tanks

[hallow lark]

If not Sentry, how to kill a tank

[calm coral]

apart from primaries I guess

[hallow lark]

When it’s just you and the bots

I can only use the surroundings… if given the opportunity

(And the ammo cuz missing a sniper shot fucking hurts)

[calm coral]

bots have gotten a lot better at dealing with tanks tho

at least they usually shoot the tumors now

[hallow lark]

Not really. I haven’t seen that in solo attempts

[calm coral]

hm

[calm coral]

sniper is still second best anti tank weapon if you ask me

consistency

plus burst damage

[hallow lark]

I know. But it’s use is limited by environment

Cuz if solo, the tank is ALWAYS gunna be facing you

[calm coral]

Id say sniper is the least limited weapon in the game

because you can use it at any range

[hallow lark]

It’s not the matter of range, it’s the matter of “window of opportunity” on tank tumors

[calm coral]

also you’ll be able to shoot 3-4 blobs while he’s facing you

giving you a huge headstart

[hallow lark]

Yea I know that 3-4 blobs

But you still need to get around him to get it

[calm coral]

if I were to solo a tank I would definitely pick sniper

[plain saddle]

You can always get above him, and then you can see down onto his whole back

[calm coral]

^

[hallow lark]

Like I said, depends on the environment or the area you’re in

Like R4E1 for example

[plain saddle]

scattergun and just beast mode him

[calm coral]

also you can abuse pathing quite hard

right I forgot scatter was in the game rn

[hallow lark]

I’m not a fan of Close range

[plain saddle]

Beast. Mode.

[calm coral]

I’d probably still pick sniper but scatter is close second

[hallow lark]

Sorry, my habit of favoring range over closed distance based on lack of hearing

[calm coral]

if you’re in a team burst cannons and choke mods become completely busted

especially choke mods

because you only need a 0.15 second window theoretically to do damage

[hallow lark]

Like I said, I never used close range weapons before since I’m always favoring long range and such

[calm coral]

choke mod is hardly close range

damage dropoff starts at like 40 meters

you should treat it like a long range slug shotgun

[hallow lark]

40ms is quite a long distance

(According to Bio distance meters)

[calm coral]

yeah also according to ping distance meters

[hallow lark]

Sorry, I’m quite stubborn on the choice of weapons

[calm coral]

nvm falloff starts at 15 and ends at 80

so you’ll still do good damage at 40

[hallow lark]

Ah

[calm coral]

but not full damage technically

[hallow lark]

Well… full damage is usually recommended

I’m not exactly a fan of changing my loadout that works for me soundlessly

[calm coral]

fair point

choke mod isnt in a great place rn anyways

[hallow lark]

Dmr/Pdw/Carbine — Sniper/Hel Rifle are the setups I considered as doable with

[calm coral]

because high cal pistol is the best special in the game right now

pdw got a pretty hefty nerf in terms of how it feels if you ask me

[hallow lark]

Or something that has alot of confidence in

[calm coral]

I really enjoy bullpup at the moment

[hallow lark]

I haven’t used it R6 style yet

[calm coral]

it got a decent buff

[hallow lark]

Been using Dmr/Sniper nostalgia build

[calm coral]

fair enough

I used to always run sniper

[hallow lark]

I grew up with that in R6 when I started there

[calm coral]

now high cal is absolutely crazy

[hallow lark]

And my friends told me that I’d do well with those setup and they were right.

[calm coral]

yeah

depending on the level I’ll still take sniper

[hallow lark]

And they wanted to train me on Bio and I did that

[calm coral]

you should really try high caliber though

just give it a shot

[hallow lark]

They took my deaf disability to turned it into a good focused strength for me in this game

[calm coral]

oh wait you only wanna use ranged right

you ever come across a level where there’s a lot of smalls and your dmr/sniper loadout does not cut it?

[hallow lark]

I’m fine with stealth but chances are very high you’d find me with a spear

[hallow lark]

Yes.

R7C1

[calm coral]

try the new precision rifle

[hallow lark]

I’ve tried that. Did not suit well

[calm coral]

the R6 one?

[hallow lark]

R6 one?

[calm coral]

they buffed it quite substantially last week

[hallow lark]

Hmm… I haven’t tested it

[calm coral]

mag size 8->12 and increased damage

it feels very nice now

[hallow lark]

I’d still want to completely all levels with Dmr-sniper build as that’s all I did

Literally all I did for all of R6

One hell of a mean Anti-G(Giant)/Anti-Tank setup

[calm coral]

right but OG R6 had a better sniper than the current one

[hallow lark]

Yea

But it’s still doable

So far

[calm coral]

what level are you on

[hallow lark]

I’ve already solo R6D1

With bots of course

[calm coral]

R6D1 only has one hard part though

which is the alarm

[hallow lark]

A1, B1, C1, D1

[hallow lark]

Not exactly

[calm coral]

for something like R6D2 sniper just won’t cut it

[hallow lark]

The hard part is not being able to hear the damn thing

Or anything

[calm coral]

you’ll really want to use high caliber for R6D2

[hallow lark]

I have not tested any other levels yet since

[calm coral]

R6D3 I recommend precision rifle

[hallow lark]

So I still need to take care of the ones that I’ve done before to see if I can solo with bots them

[calm coral]

actually wait

R6D3 is really hard to solo with bots

[hallow lark]

I’m NOT fucking going in there without pdw

[calm coral]

because it required your team to split up

[hallow lark]

R6D3 was my first experience with shadows

And I fucking hated them

[calm coral]

you can use precision rifle and a non thermal main weapon

precision rifle has a thermal

[hallow lark]

I know PR has a thermal

I’ll think about the loadout for that nightmare

Later

[calm coral]

it also has double the mag size as a revolver while doing basically the same damage (one shot smalls), plus it gets slightly bigger reserves

[hallow lark]

I’m not ready to take on that hell that started my Shadows/Nemesis stuff

[calm coral]

for R6D3 it’s really really good

you’ll be shooting shadows like no one else

[hallow lark]

Mate. You SHOULDVE seen me in R7D1 when I used thermals.

I literally spent that first Class X alarm cackling like a fricking maniac shooting the shadows

Yelling “that’s for all the hell you gave me in R6D3!”

[calm coral]

mhm

[hallow lark]

If there’s shadows in any levels, you know that I’m not playing around with those things.

[calm coral]

i’ve never done that one with the first class 10

I just do the error usually

[hallow lark]

Yea… usually…

But Rayalot and I did it just us and two bots

[calm coral]

mhm bots are good in shadow levels

because they can bio track without their bio tracker out

[hallow lark]

(Doesn’t help me tho)

I NEED Biotracker on myself if I wanted to stealth shadows

Thermals isn’t enough for me

[calm coral]

well there’s some levels where taking double bio trackers isn’t a bad idea

[half hornet]

You can have 2 biotrackers...

The question is who to sacrifice

[calm coral]

depends on the level

[hallow lark]

Yea, having 2 biotrackers is nice but can be costly in terms of tool sacrifice

[calm coral]

but you’ll be fine with two sentries and two bios

[calm coral]

true but you’ll be able to bring less efficient tools because bio does not require tool

running double bios allows for stuff like shotgun sentries to really shine because you can keep dunking ammo into them

[hallow lark]

However, harder levels such as R7C2 requires only 1-0 biotrackers

I know this cuz I did it Bioless and it was hell

[plain saddle]

Worth mentioning that you do lose the starting tool that bringing another tool would give you, so it's not quite free

[calm coral]

I wouldn’t say R7C2 is a particularly hard level

[hallow lark]

Soundlessly yes

You can hear and detect stuff via audio.

[calm coral]

true that

[hallow lark]

My experiences differs but I do understand

[calm coral]

R5D1 and D2 are hell without audio

[hallow lark]

It’s not easy to just jump into a level to finish it.

[hallow lark]

I have not done those yet

Or attempted yet.

[calm coral]

R5D1 secondary is possibly the most tedious objective in the game

second hardest terminal objective in the game

[wary olive]

R5B1 extreme

[hallow lark]

I’ll keep that noted

[wary olive]

[calm coral]

I do not remember

[wary olive]

cell hunting in fog

[calm coral]

ah yes

hardest terminal objective is probably just R5E1 main

solo R5B1 extreme is very difficult

[hallow lark]

Still. Regardless, what matters the most is the team setup or what the team brings

I’m not running a level solo where Mothers/Shadows/Tanks are prevalent

[calm coral]

in R5D1 it’s all about about focus, not the tools you bring

and it’s like 2hrs long for a quick run

3 for an average run

[hallow lark]

I’m soundless terms, I do tend to rely on tools

[calm coral]

yeah you can take a bio sure

[hallow lark]

Bio for locations, Visual for confirmation, mental for awareness (although I do get exhausted mentally quite easily)

[calm coral]

I mean there’s videos on yt of people soloing R5D1 secondary

which is insane to me

[calm coral]

mental exhaustion is pretty much the enemy in R5D1

it’s such a drag

[hallow lark]

Shadows drains it twice as fast for me cuz I have to double time it since I can’t keep a solid confirmation or awareness on them

[calm coral]

and any moment a slip up is either a wipe or a big resource cost

[hallow lark]

So it’s usually I’m done after a single shadow level

[calm coral]

hehe R5D1 sec is pretty much only shadow giants for about 2 hours

[bold widget]

Didnt notice any

[hallow lark]

FU!!!

[calm coral]

actually that’s cap

there are not that many

[bold widget]

@real moss if you think irs nerfed then maybe but for me it felt like its the same

[hallow lark]

Please tell me you’re shitting me

[hallow lark]

But they’re still shadows

[calm coral]

it is a lot of sneaking around respawning shadow giants

[bold widget]

How is that nerfed?

[hallow lark]

Well shit

[calm coral]

you won’t have to kill them though

[hallow lark]

It’s not the killing I’m worried about

I just remember that D1

I remember a team and I attempting it and then we somehow wiped for some reason

[calm coral]

have you considered using a mod to show if an enemy is pulsing/glowing on your bio? in your case (audio impaired) I wouldn’t say it’s cheating

[hallow lark]

Nah.

Not gunna do that

[calm coral]

okok

[hallow lark]

I still want to be on others levels

[calm coral]

just a little accessibility thing I was thinking about

[hallow lark]

So I still want to keep working my way up

[calm coral]

yeah

[hallow lark]

Until I can officially say that yes, I’m either on everyone’s level or slightly higher up

But it’s more of a target that I wanted to be on everyone’s level (the level that people use their hearing in the game)

[calm coral]

right

[hallow lark]

I still got stuff that needs some work like shadow awareness

Or reaction time towards situations

[calm coral]

reaction time is just a matter of keeping your bio out and pinging immediately if something goes red

[hallow lark]

There are some cases where I just end up just having a Bio Tracker out a lot and not shooting my weapons and helping my teammate more with the killing

[calm coral]

honestly on a lot of occasions I would say bio pinging is probably better than shooting

I gotta go btw

cya

good luck

[hallow lark]

See ya later

[real moss]

feelings don't matter, when an alarm goes from all chargers to chargers and normal strikers it's an objective nerf.

Like it's not that hard to grasp

[prisma zodiac]

eh

[calm coral]

subjectively

[prisma zodiac]

dmg nerf doesnt matter vs its main targets. And its super slight vs bigs

Reload is noticeable but

[prisma zodiac]

its comparable to hel rifle/choke mod rn

[bold widget]

Cause game is broken

[prisma zodiac]

so no

[calm coral]

its alternatives got buffs so it got nerfed indirectly

pdw

[bold widget]

And devs dont know how to do alarm

[prisma zodiac]

That yes, but i dont consider that a hefty nerf

Otherwise hel revo has been nerfed constantly

[calm coral]

hel revo has been actually nerfed this time though right

reload

[prisma zodiac]

yep

honestly regarding high cal, while its definetly great now, i do not think its the best in any way

Its not the best at anything. Yes its a decent all rounder but it doesnt quite stand with it like hel gun did before

[real moss]

Nope this was disproven

[tough atlas]

I say the same about HAR all the time

but whatever

I feel like for what it does I'd rather take an MG

Mainly I take Arbalist since I like it

[pallid swallow]

HAR good when it's cqc and you can't waste time on reload

[prisma zodiac]

I mean HAR is mediocre at best

its fine but gets outclassed by 2 full autos and has nothing else it has a chance to outshine in

[cold merlin]

it probably works in the occasional/rare situations where the chargeup of the machineguns would be a particularly big issue I guess

but then again, it was originally a main weapon that got moved to the special weapons category, so...

idk never really gotten around to using the MGs/HAR much myself (seeing as most of the time I just get the bot(s) to use the Veruta instead)

[prisma zodiac]

HAR in R6 was in a more interesting slot

super controlled and precise special that worked great in tandem with mains

then the recoil change happened

and now its a pseudo machine gun

[cold merlin]

huh

[half hornet]

I think there's still value to it. No spin-up and quick reload for a special makes it a versatile low-maintenance gun. New recoil is not ideal, but its not horrible anymore either. Literally the only problem i have with the gun is that it runs out of ammo at disgustingly high speeds. It got 15 less bullets total than Arbalist, and Arbalist deals +0.3 more damage as well while at it. Recoil might be better too.
Is uncomfortably low ammo a fair price for no spin-up and decent reload speed? I'm not sure, honestly. If it was up to me - i would give it extra 10-15 bullets and see from there.

[prisma zodiac]

Never said it didnt have value, its still a fine gun. It isnt outclassed AND bad

[olive shoal]

Didn’t this happen in og too tho lol

Things like this have happened throughout the entire course of the game

Og R4d2 you could get chargers in some of the alarms and then sometimes you’d do runs and you just wouldn’t

Something something heat

In my experiences in alt I’ve gotten maybe like 2 strikers in a wave or something, it’s still mostly chargers anyway

[real moss]

That's the point it didn't

[half hornet]

Okay, I seriously need to get C2 done tonight

No one fucking plays that level for some reason

[olive shoal]

if thats the case then sure, but its like, 2 strikers maybe in a wave

does it rlly matter that much

[prisma zodiac]

2 strikers instead of 1 charger = level easy now

3 extra sets of scans = same thing

[olive shoal]

its not even like im seeing it every wave

do we also wanna talk about the tile changes that make that scan more fucked up or do we wanna continue with this narrative that they nerfed everything

some introspection is required it seems...

[livid heath]

R6C2?

What did it have again?

[prisma zodiac]

Usually its easier to say that stuff got nerfed

tho theres obviously some major nerfs that happened.

2 of the biggest ones are good ones for level design. R5C1 and R5D2, but obviously most arent like that

[olive shoal]

ofc but id say r6 feels basically the same as og

[prisma zodiac]

im waiting for people to say R6 feels easier than OG due to stronger weapons/tools

[tough atlas]

I've played both and tbh some maps feel a tad easier

d3's fliers alarm I remember being way nastier

and the zone behind it with nearly double the sleepers

But maybe I'm just misremembering

Which wouldn't really be all that surprising, I think I did og d3pe at like the second try+1 checkpoint while this time on 3rd try without any checkpoint

not really a sample size big enough for me to tell if it changed

[livid heath]

“I feel ALT R6 is alot easier”

There

[kind swan]

Me feeling like r6 is easier but it's really just I was a shitty skill issued player back in og r6

[hexed vapor]

It's just not the same without chargers getting free damage from around corners on the other side of the room.

[kind swan]

Sniper melee

What a time.

But I Genuinely was a pretty bad player back then. And I sometimes despise that I only got better during R6

[hexed vapor]

Eh, good rundown for it tbh.

Lots of weapons got stronger that patch.

[mortal portal]

I think it feels the same although some levels do feel easier due to layout changes. Like the error alarm zone and the infection zone in D2.

[hexed vapor]

Can't speak for infeciton path, but error path is basically the same.

[mortal portal]

Except the post blood door rooms

Although it doesn't make much of a difference imo

[hexed vapor]

What is changed in infection path?

[mortal portal]

I was mainly referring to the cluster alarm room. It used to have an elevation in the middle but now it's flat with pillars

[hexed vapor]

Eh, it's minor time save, and arguably it's harder to fight around if something goes wrong.

[mortal portal]

It's now hallway in which you can manipulate the enemy waves to go through a single door and thus making the alarm easier

Also you got a ladder

[hexed vapor]

Do you know the tile by chance?

[mortal portal]

Uh.... don't know it by name

But it's the one with like a U tube, a ladder on the right and stairs on the left

R7B3 class IV alarm I think

[livid heath]

Sewerage tileset lol?

[hexed vapor]

The one with a small bridge at one end?

[mortal portal]

Ah yeah

[hexed vapor]

Or the one with a pipe on one end?

[mortal portal]

There's a bridge above

[livid heath]

Near respawn sec door

[hexed vapor]

Hmmm, yeah that doesn't sound too bad besides the elevation being way more scuffed.

[livid heath]

I mean

Its easy funnel

[mortal portal]

Chargers can now conga line towards you

[livid heath]

Hmm

That does make a very good funnel

If you think about it

[hexed vapor]

Tbf we had good funnels before, just you couldn't really send your HEL Gun out to use it.

[livid heath]

You can literally close doors and leave em following you up the slope from the bridge

[mortal portal]

Easier than the old tile imo

[livid heath]

Btw

I just now noticed

You can shove a guy when they spawn in the walls

So they cant even move out of the wall

No head fr fr

[hexed vapor]

Where is sec door in there?

I inted to a BBC 😦

Is it in left or right room?

If it's in right room, that's just bb easy.

especially if they spawn in left.

Navigating in there is way more fucked, but it's w/e.

[prisma zodiac]

You could manipulate in the og aswell?

[hexed vapor]

If it's even further to the right, that's a much closer hold to OG.

[hexed vapor]

I think it's more how likely you are to have a line that you can see from scan.

Assuming it's in the room I think it's in.

It's also a longer path if it's in the room I think, because you have at least one long-ish detour in your own room on top of potentially a very long path in the adjacent room depending on their spawns.

[hexed vapor]

Where is the sec door, tho?

[deft kiln]

I think best way through d2 is just take scatter then to kill mom zone

Skip infection

[hexed vapor]

Agreed, mom zone is pretty overrated.

I don't think people realize that mom and error zones both have 2-terminal routing options.

[deft kiln]

Oh yeah

[hexed vapor]

And for mom zone the 2-terminal route is very free.

[deft kiln]

it be crazy

[hexed vapor]

I wonder how Scatter would play on R4E1 tbh.

Host wave clear, 3 clients w/ Scatter or Pump.

[silent kettle]

u kill tanks

and thats that

what is there to ponder

[deft kiln]

no we kill moms

[hexed vapor]

^ It makes kind of a difference on R5E1, although that might also just be the strategy more-so than Scatter.

You can probably still do full room pull w/ BC and some coordination.

[silent kettle]

absolutely

[hexed vapor]

The speed kill is a big deal, though, imo.

BC mag dump kinda slow.

[silent kettle]

wot

3 bursts = dead mom

[olive shoal]

I think r4e1 it doesn’t really matter

tbh

R5e1 is a more interesting topic friends

I can’t wait to own the blood door tank

[silent kettle]

surely

[livid heath]

Opens to see only a snatcher

Not even big chargers

[kind swan]

"Where's the Tank Drake?"

[subtle vault]

There’s just nothing behind the door

[still mica]

Warden… it’s been too long

Begin banana ||bread|| protocol

[kind swan]

My mind

Read that as breed

[still mica]

Bottom energy

[kind swan]

bleaches my eyes

[pliant pasture]

top comment

[fresh bronze]

do the waves of r6c3 stop after 30 minute mark

[deft kiln]

No

Tanks stop eventually tho

[fresh bronze]

holy shit that was close

didnt use the checkpoint

literally had to fight like 8 tanks total

Bishop single handedly clutched revive us multiple times

Badass level man

#gtfo-media message

certified hood classic

[half hornet]

R6C3 is pretty fun, yeah. One of few levels i'm ready to actively replay with people just for the lulz of it. It helps a lot that it only lasts 30 minutes, discounting checkpoint (and each checkpoint is like... +15 minutes?)

Get in, blast some monsters, have some fun, GTFO

[kind swan]

Iirc. You never want to use the checkpoint in r6c3

[half hornet]

Why not? So far never broke anything for me (about 3-4 occasions) - aside from checkpointing in the middle of a struggle session with a giant or something.

[tough atlas]

In OG, using the checkpoint on r6c3 while trying to do PE would/could invalidate Extreme/Secondary no matter what

as in, when you got to extraction it'd only count main and overload

No idea if it does it now but we died once before finishing main, used the checkpoint and it counted the PE

[half hornet]

I think my PE had a checkpoint as well - finding cells was problematic.

So yeah, it should work better now.

[fresh bronze]

I am actually suprised my first run past the checkpoint didnt use checkpoints

Especially since that run took over 45 minutes

Bishop hard carried tho pulling some crazy ass revives during a tank fight

[livid heath]

R6C3 and D3

Which is better (in enjoyment ofc or if you want to compare difficulty)

[half hornet]

C3.
D3 has its moments, but the milk-thick fog is cringe when you are pressured for time.

[livid heath]

D3 really hits you hard

For playing slow lol

@quiet ridge

@flat yew is this you?

You both look too much alike lol

[quiet ridge]

bro if u ping me in the middle of class one more time bro

[flat yew]

if u ping me at all bro

[livid heath]

So?

I didn’t want my ass to be lit

[quiet ridge]

d3 is easy

thats all i got to say

[flat yew]

ur mom is easy

thats all i got to say

[livid heath]

Just making sure to inv more ppl to the contest lol

[quiet ridge]

😼

[livid heath]

So youre both separate ppl

Cool cool

[flat yew]

😈

[quiet ridge]

squiro u want to play later??? i should be free

[flat yew]

yeah

[quiet ridge]

done taking a break from gtfo

ill be on after class

[livid heath]

Damn

[deft kiln]

When is your class so I can ping you not during them

[livid heath]

Rn

[deft kiln]

could I get a detailed list

[livid heath]

[quiet ridge]

possibly

i mean you can just ping with warp because hes amazing at it for some reason

[deft kiln]

Okay if I ping you tomorrow at 5am pst

Is that a good time or a bad one

[livid heath]

Can we also get the details on what your classes too?

[quiet ridge]

too early

class tomorrow is afternoon

thats all ill say

[deft kiln]

Dw I will set up a discord bot to ping you every 30 mins

[velvet linden]

guys can you shut up

im in class rn

[quiet ridge]

ima mute it

[livid heath]

Fr?

[livid heath]

Stfu

[deft kiln]

It will be a different account every time

[livid heath]

[prisma zodiac]

@quiet ridge omg is this davegoose

[deft kiln]

☝️

[livid heath]

Honorable mention on #gtfo-chat

[quiet ridge]

bro luckily i have this shit pulled up or itll be blasting the ping noise lmaooo

ima just turn off notifs

[prisma zodiac]

have fun man

[velvet linden]

you should leave this server

[prisma zodiac]

i gotta go back to studying

[deft kiln]

I would also maybe block someone in the chat

[prisma zodiac]

fuck chemistry

[quiet ridge]

chem is terrible lmaooo

[livid heath]

Im on investment course

[quiet ridge]

no one cares

[deft kiln]

Actually checks out

[livid heath]

True

[velvet linden]

is kaiser isnt a salesperson then hes lying

[quiet ridge]

alright cya

[livid heath]

Gtfo fockface

Lol have a nice day

[livid heath]

If i sell you memes

Does that considered me selling?

If it makes you smile/laugh a bit?

[velvet linden]

I don't think there is any meme you could sell me that I would so much as smirk at

[livid heath]

But does it considered selling?

[velvet linden]

if i buy them then its selling, if you give them away, it is not selling

i shouldnt have to explain this

[livid heath]

I mean

You look at them

So you pay me your time

And time CAN be a currency

[velvet linden]

i dont pay you my time

that would imply that you get the time

[livid heath]

Hmmm

Valid point

[deft kiln]

Can I sell you classified documents that will make you smirk or chuckle

[velvet linden]

any time

[prisma zodiac]

He gets you to spend your time

Time = money

So he gets you to spend money

[livid heath]

Check your mailbox

[prisma zodiac]

Checkmate atheist

[velvet linden]

difference between me spending my time, and me paying him in my time

double checkmate

atheist

[livid heath]

But you’re stuck in this conversation

And you spend time replying to me

Therefore you spend your time on me

Triple checkmate

Atheist

[prisma zodiac]

Kaiser just makes you spend your time on weird shit that you dont even know he was trying to sell to you

you cant escape

its a web of sales

[livid heath]

And im selling you crap lol

[velvet linden]

i cant tell if hed be the best or the worst salesman

[livid heath]

Ngl this is the most cringe and dumbass thing ive said in the last 5 months

[velvet linden]

careful

thats a very high bar

[livid heath]

For a dummy yes

For me no

Im sus

[hallow lark]

Takes off Implants and ignores everyone

[coarse berry]

WOW it is fucking weird that bishop and dauda don't react to seeing their own corpses.

[nocturne flax]

You wont believe how they wont react to r5a2 terminal audio log!!

🤯

[coarse berry]

why the fuck did they cut those lines

like

you have the budget to re-voice act all the logs but you can't add a simple "What the fuck" line for that

come on 10cc

why are they simultaneously characters and not characters

[nocturne flax]

Its called we do not have the audio system to have that

[narrow gulch]

it is confirmed, PR can 1 mag a mom 👍

client tumors is officially fucked up as hell

and I hate it

spread the word, host should never be focusing on boss killing and boss efficiency is a joke stat now

(also you can solo a pmom with no birth as client)

conclusions of the night

[olive shoal]

ok but

burst cannon on host isnt too bad as long as ur just spreading damage

[narrow gulch]

burst cannon is about the same yeah, assuming other ppl arent damaging tumors (even then its pretty ok, you dont lose much as long as tumor breaking doesnt make you miss your burst)

[olive shoal]

client is just really funny

nothing like having enough latency that u can just fire full bursts into tank tumors

[last gust]

without main to finish off some tumors?

[narrow gulch]

ye

[last gust]

the hell is going on

[narrow gulch]

_ _

new discoveries have been made courtesy of beth

[last gust]

yeah but what's the thing that's happening

[narrow gulch]

effectively, client does not give a single fuck what tumor hp is remaining

it will always deal full damage, the only caveat being full damage is capped at tumor max health

so

high cal does 111 to mom tumor ish

[last gust]

ohh so you don't need 8 tumors

[narrow gulch]

you shoot it twice as client

it does 222 damage, breaks 1 tumor

you shoot it twice as host

it does 125 damage, breaks 1 tumor

[last gust]

ok that's stupid

[narrow gulch]

technically this DOES still rob your clients of getting overkill damage if you are breaking tumors as host, but

[last gust]

tank tumors fucked on client as well?

[narrow gulch]

ye

its all tumors

I just used mom as an example

[last gust]

ya fair

that's still a bit of a buff to high precision multi guns like choke mod

but quite a bit more of a buff to high cal because its damage into tumors didn't fit as well

also easier bosses makes bringing good bossfight guns less relevant

though shouldn't sniper 4shot mothers now?

[plain saddle]

Still capped at tumor HP

[nocturne flax]

Client bypassing damage cap was always there

[last gust]

ohh right

[nocturne flax]

It never went away

[plain saddle]

We thought (or I thought and I'd never heard any different), that client was still capped by current tumor HP, but that they could massively damage a tumor before current tumor HP was updated and still get all their damage.

i.e. we knew burst cannon and shotguns were busted for client, but we didn't know that sniper was also busted

[nocturne flax]

It applies to all weapons

What i tought it that you could do more damage with choke

What chill is saying ots that pr gets added to the list of weapons that are a little too stupid against bosses

[plain saddle]

choke is a shotgun, we knew shotguns were busted

[nocturne flax]

I mean

Yeah but like

You can shoot all 4 bullets in loke 0.6 seconde due to firerate

And also like

We have like 7 shotguns!

[plain saddle]

Yeah, we knew choke mod was busted, but did we know that sniper still got full damage vs damaged tumors as client

[nocturne flax]

Whos we

Whst type of ilumminaty shit

Ill take you all down

Nintendo wii

Ill take down your cult

[plain saddle]

Me + the people I've talked to about how tumors behave, none of us knew the specifics of this behaviour

[nocturne flax]

Im ryan gosling

[plain saddle]

No you're more handsome than him

[nocturne flax]

Nobody its handsomer than ryan gosling

[olive shoal]

client is just funny

burst cannon client goes hard

[nocturne flax]

Exept henry canvil

He hot

[olive shoal]

just fire into the same 3 tumors and tank gets owned

[coarse berry]

this game has some horrific client - host desync

if shit like this is actual tech

[nocturne flax]

More like an happy accident

Not really a tech

[olive shoal]

It’s a feature

[nocturne flax]

Tech implies theres skill to it

[plain saddle]

In this case it is not desync, you can shoot the tumor after as long as you want, the game just literally handles client vs host damage differently

[nocturne flax]

^

[olive shoal]

But the cap is there so sniper doesn’t just melt every boss enemy lmao

At least it’s still pretty good against pmom and kraken

[plain saddle]

Wait, if it's not a desync thing, then it doesn't need bad ping, any client can do it

Noooooooooo my one use as an australian

[olive shoal]

Yeah any client can do it

But I think the laggier you are to a degree the better it is

I wouldn’t get the same value just brainlessly bursting a tank on a uk host as I would on an na host

[wary olive]

so is sawed off sniper the best mom killing load out

nvm its not

i did some maths

[plain saddle]

scattergun, you can hammer and then 2 shot, literally don't even need main

[wary olive]

wtf

[half hornet]

I know this probably been asked and done multiple times but: does scatter / sniper deal over-damage to tumors, or its literally just the amount of tumors destroyed that gets them?
And i believe there's like some host / client discrepancy or whatever...

[livid heath]

wtf

Real Ryk?

@half hornet

when free

[half hornet]

In other words i'm curious on:

• how its supposed to work
• how it actually works

[plain saddle]

You just need to deal their HP's worth of damage to them, you can kill bosses without popping any tumors.

For host, the amount of damage you can deal to the boss is capped by the tumor's current HP.

For client, the amount of damage you can deal to the boss is capped by the tumor's max HP.

[half hornet]

Maybe tomorrow, same time. I got a job in an hour and i'm not risking a 90 minute long run.

[livid heath]

yay

finally

[half hornet]

So:

• if tumor got 1 HP...
• as host i shoot it with a sniper - i deal 1 damage
• as client i shoot it with a sniper - i deal whatever HP tumors have period

[plain saddle]

Yes.

[half hornet]

Kinda cringe that clients are busted like that...

And for the record: how much HP tumors have?

[plain saddle]

Mom: 126
Tank: 150
Pmom: 313

[half hornet]

they're different for each boss?

[olive shoal]

I love that host randomly does like 1 extra damage on tumor breaks

[half hornet]

How in the name of all that is holy i could possibly know that

[olive shoal]

Really makes up for the host disadvantage

[plain saddle]

Also worth noting that clients can damage the same tumor multiple times before it pops.
So a single scattergun shot into a mom will deal ~470 damage to the mom (each pellet is able to deal its full damage before the client 'realises' the tumor is popped).

[plain saddle]

I want to test if clients also get this

[half hornet]

Although pmom tumors did feel a little bit chonky...
"Hmmm, i've been shooting this thing for 15 seconds straight and its not popping. Am i doing something wrong?"

[olive shoal]

I feel like they might?

I vaguely remember these numbers from my testing

[plain saddle]

Blast these tests requiring client, I could have just tested it right now

[olive shoal]

I could slide on and help if u want

[plain saddle]

\o/

[olive shoal]

Gimme like a few minutes

[plain saddle]

I need a few minutes too

[prisma zodiac]

Iirc the last point isnt true?

if you hit a tumor that has 5 hp left you only do that 5 hp still?

[plain saddle]

Eva, new game knowledge just dropped, this isn't the case

[prisma zodiac]

where did it drop :o?

[plain saddle]

We tested it a bunch today

[west crow]

not with sniper

all other weapons yes, but not with sniper

necro'd the 6am convo my badf

[olive shoal]

Nah sniper sucks as host

Host can’t overflow damage at all

[narrow gulch]

You deal 125 as client

The answer is yes

[west crow]

You don't do that

[narrow gulch]

Go test it

You'll see

It's stupid af

[olive shoal]

You deal 126 actually

[narrow gulch]

This is why it's new info

[olive shoal]

stat nerds can’t even get it right…

[west crow]

I feel like I'm gaslighting myself

[narrow gulch]

Same

[west crow]

I swear I've tested it and the damage was always limited

[olive shoal]

The damage is limited by tumor max hp

[narrow gulch]

I has to test it myself cuz I didn't understand either

[pliant bear]

'Fire until it bleeds'

[olive shoal]

I swear I told you this like a week ago beep

[winter wharf]

Tbh I feel like it was 2 days ago

[west crow]

I've done more damage on a tumor than its tumor health

[winter wharf]

Not a week

[olive shoal]

with a scattergun or choke

Yes

Or because u were just able to get extra shots

That’s a different thing tho

[narrow gulch]

Exactly

[topaz mauve]

ngl scattergun make me sad for anything that isn't a boss

[narrow gulch]

This new stuff is in ADDITION to the multishot stuff

[topaz mauve]

would rather run choke

[west crow]

Client stays winning I guess

[deft kiln]

Client wins

[west crow]

Or sniper stays losing

Whichever side you're on

[olive shoal]

Client literally always wins against bosses

[narrow gulch]

Sniper was always losing on mom

[west crow]

Sniper loses on everything

[olive shoal]

Beep we can coordinate tank kills like crazy now

Call out which tumors we’re shooting for MAXIMUM efficiency

It’s so epic

[west crow]

Professional comms

[pliant bear]

Or just ability to speak

[olive shoal]

Yessir

[deft kiln]

Professional coms

[prisma zodiac]

So the knowledge before was that clients could potentially get extra shots in with ping

But the other thing was that shotguns always did more dmg than tumor hp due to pellets still hitting on client

Appearantly (tru knows more about this) clients can do max dmg to a tumor that as 1 hp left. So client sniper always does max dmg :>

[narrow gulch]

It's funny, now sniper shoots the same tumors

[west crow]

You shoot your tumors first ill shoot second

[narrow gulch]

Instead of full hp ones

[deft kiln]

Yeah it is werid I feel odd

[olive shoal]

Client sniper still isn’t worth tho imo

[west crow]

Neither is host

[olive shoal]

you have so many better options

[pliant bear]

high cal pistol....

Just feels great.

[narrow gulch]

It is for tank and pmom imo

[winter wharf]

Yeah idk why I'd ever take sniper when hel rifle exists!

[west crow]

Sniper is awful against tank

[narrow gulch]

Having 1 sniper is just too good

[deft kiln]

PR

[olive shoal]

Id say it’s better for pmom and squid

[narrow gulch]

In general

[west crow]

It's good for pmom and squid

[olive shoal]

I don’t think I’m a fan of it for tank

[deft kiln]

Squid the most important fight

[narrow gulch]

Please, tell me why it's bad for tank

[deft kiln]

Because shotgun

Is mandatory

[winter wharf]

Probably ammo econ

[west crow]

Yeah it dumps more than it gets back

And for very little

[deft kiln]

Tbh range and easy of sure might still make it a good tank kill

[west crow]

You're not doing 300 damage you're only ever going to do 126

[narrow gulch]

It doesn't, it loses 90 deals 150

That's mom beep

[west crow]

150* yeab

[olive shoal]

just run burst cannon

[prisma zodiac]

It does yes

[west crow]

So you're losing half your damage

[narrow gulch]

Tank is 3x

Not 5

[olive shoal]

infinitely better boss killing weapon

[deft kiln]

Scatter gun

[olive shoal]

Or scattergun

[deft kiln]

Boom boom

10000 dpi

[olive shoal]

literally why run sniper when both those guns exist

[narrow gulch]

Scatter is very dumb

[west crow]

You're still losing a big chunk of your damage

[deft kiln]

Max sens

[narrow gulch]

I love it

[prisma zodiac]

Honestly what was learned is just that host sucks at boss killing

[west crow]

An issue none of the other weapons have

[narrow gulch]

P much

[topaz mauve]

yeah lol host never takes bossing weapon

[winter wharf]

I saw a name and pfp I didn't recognise and thought you were a badger alt @deft kiln

[topaz mauve]

host takes like, an MG, so they deal with bugger stuff

[olive shoal]

Host just has to like

[narrow gulch]

I gave my conclusion last night

[olive shoal]

Spread damage

[deft kiln]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1051306850903130194/1154685126878433351/2023-09-22_17-23-00-pmum_solo.mp4

[olive shoal]

can’t pop tumors

[narrow gulch]

I love that we're already looping

Literally can't win

[olive shoal]

such is the way of life

idk I was surprised you guys hadn’t found this out earlier

[west crow]

Looping where

[olive shoal]

I expected to be late to the party

At shack

[topaz mauve]

wuch is the way of life

*such

host takes Machinegun

[narrow gulch]

Had no reason to assume so

[topaz mauve]

host sprays bullets

[olive shoal]

Killer mindgamed and I had to drop pallet beep

Can you heal me

[narrow gulch]

We assume things make sense

Not the other way around

[winter wharf]

Now do it on host

[deft kiln]

No

[narrow gulch]

Which clip is it jish

Pmom?

[deft kiln]

P mom solo

[winter wharf]

Hel shotgun scattergun swaps

[deft kiln]

No birth no c foam

[olive shoal]

the pmom solo is funny

[deft kiln]

But scream

[west crow]

You could do that shit with choke

[winter wharf]

Playing like it's a d2 raid boss

[narrow gulch]

You can fucj it up pretty bad too

And still get no birth

[deft kiln]

Do you get two rotations before birth start ?

[west crow]

Rotations?

The fuck am I swapping weapons for

[narrow gulch]

Choke doesn't stagger enough

[deft kiln]

Two staggers before birth start

You have less dmg you need to get to your 3rd reload

At least

I know you get the fist one easy

[west crow]

You should get first stagger on second clip

[narrow gulch]

It's not soon enough

[deft kiln]

But then birth starts

[west crow]

Don't know haven't tried it in awhile

[narrow gulch]

Mom births very quickly

[west crow]

Scatter Def beats it out

[deft kiln]

Tbh

[deft kiln]

Problem with this clip is scream

Idk if it works in a scream cd environment

[west crow]

Scatter?

[deft kiln]

Yeah solo no birth no scream

The reason I care about no scream if then you can do this as a room wakes up with p mom to clutch stealth

[topaz mauve]

but you're shooting, no?

[narrow gulch]

Could test more

[west crow]

My solo clutch build of Scatter hel shotgun

[deft kiln]

Yeah but it can’t birth in scream

[olive shoal]

I dont know any situations where I’m bringing hel shotgun scatter into a level

[deft kiln]

Every level now

[olive shoal]

unless I’m hard memeing

[narrow gulch]

But it's a shitpost anyways

Yea

[deft kiln]

Idk scatter hel shotty is best load out

[olive shoal]

It’s just a funny thing you can do I don’t think it’s something to seriously consider

[narrow gulch]

R7d2 loadout

[deft kiln]

We can make a modded map where it would be required

[west crow]

I rely on my teammates to kill chargers

[pliant bear]

I relay and rely on chargers to kill my teammates 🍵

[west crow]

Are you ai generated

[pliant bear]

Yes

[west crow]

Nothing you've said seems remotely human

[olive shoal]

It’s the tea emoji I think

[pliant bear]

\🍵

[livid heath]

[deft kiln]

Fuck

[livid heath]

[narrow gulch]

Move out team

[west crow]

Do people enjoy playing with you warp gate

[deft kiln]

You should try it beep

[livid heath]

they do?