#gtfo-spoiler-chat

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livid heath
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Well

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Look on the bright side

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Bullpup finally gets buffed

hexed vapor
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Damage is still 16.5, no?

deft kiln
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Idk

prisma zodiac
hexed vapor
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.25*

deft kiln
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Also bat change doesn’t matter?

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Like it doesn’t do anything?

prisma zodiac
pseudo lily
deft kiln
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Oh wait is it bat nerf

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No more light tap giants

hexed vapor
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^

half hornet
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Which makes sense.

vestal lance
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W for HEL Rifle enjoyers

deft kiln
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Yeah but

tough badger
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too bad I am permanently attached to the scattergun now

deft kiln
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We didn’t even get a fix to shove

hexed vapor
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Isn't that in bugfix?

pseudo lily
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whats the deal with the auto sentry

half hornet
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Jury not in yet

hexed vapor
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Oh, that change isn't what I think it is, actually.

pseudo lily
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sounds significantly worse on paper at first glance

hexed vapor
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^

half hornet
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Less ammo, but can hit up to 2 enemies now

winter wharf
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Targeting though

half hornet
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Damage output against a horde effectively doubled, better crowd control

vestal lance
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Man been using the HEL Auto for the early missions as a joke but it actually kind of fucking slaps lol since it delays alarm waves for staggering but not killing things

hexed vapor
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Also, did they remember to remove Sniper Sentry pen before fixing sentry pen?

winter wharf
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And is it really still more worthwhile than any other sentry if it hits 2 enemies at once? I don't think so

half hornet
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Ammo nerf was unnecessary, IMHO

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Like come on

hexed vapor
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^ was already one of the least economical sentries

pseudo lily
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it’s already hungry on ammo

winter wharf
deft kiln
hexed vapor
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But someone would have to test.

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@plain saddle What is Sniper Sentry pen?

last gust
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yeah I agree, running it into the ground with charge nerfs feels bad compared to just bringing the damage down under the breakpoint

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also more predictable

deft kiln
plain saddle
last gust
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like, we now spend on the order of weeks trying to get good with hel gun I guess?

plain saddle
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wrong reply

hexed vapor
hexed vapor
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Enjoy it while it lasts.

plain saddle
deft kiln
last gust
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but there's a fair point to be had in here I think

hexed vapor
deft kiln
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It must be getting close

narrow gulch
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Is it .3 now

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Damn

hexed vapor
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So HEL Gun shoots 3 times a second vs. 1 time a second.

narrow gulch
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Time to continue using rifle

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Lol!

deft kiln
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I mean yeah

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Rilfe geting tagged makes no sense

last gust
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it's 0.3? maybe it's closer to just skill issue than I thought

deft kiln
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PR still bad

narrow gulch
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I meant hel but yeah

plain saddle
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HEL Rifle is 0.12 (charge) + 0.75 (cooldown) = 0.97 between shots
HEL gun is 0.3 (charge) between shots

narrow gulch
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Rifle nerf unwarranted

hexed vapor
narrow gulch
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Especially alongside pistol buff

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Cs surviving is still insane

hexed vapor
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I had just got used to HEL Gun at 0.2

deft kiln
hexed vapor
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^

narrow gulch
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It is

deft kiln
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We got a dmg nerf for ammo buff

narrow gulch
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It's old bit more ammo and range

hexed vapor
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It's in its R7 meta state + 1 extra bullet per refill.

deft kiln
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Just to get the dmg back

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Auto sentry?

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Good or still eh

narrow gulch
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I called it

last gust
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wait how many rounds per refill does high cal get now?

hexed vapor
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On paper, it seems really eh.

narrow gulch
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All I can say

native lily
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I just tested the nerfed pdw it still works ok against smalls just is slightly worse with ammo now

hexed vapor
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Don't be fooled by people praising it.

narrow gulch
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10 fn

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Instead of 9 like old

deft kiln
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Pdw getting tagged is fine

narrow gulch
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Or choke or hel rifle

vestal lance
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LOL

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THERES TWO ROBO LEGS APPAREL NOW

hexed vapor
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PDW will survive just by virtue of thermal, and also its breakpoints are the same or better.

last gust
deft kiln
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It will always be good because of quick swap

narrow gulch
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Pdw is unhurt

plain saddle
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Chill pointed out to me, PDW damage nerf is lowkey buff, it gets 3 headshots before head pop on strikers now

native lily
deft kiln
hexed vapor
deft kiln
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Does it get a better break point

narrow gulch
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Yes

hexed vapor
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And it's mega-buffed, so...

deft kiln
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Haha

narrow gulch
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But only in its range

hexed vapor
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PDW does handle better than AR, tho.

narrow gulch
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It basically got a range nerf

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And cqc buff

deft kiln
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Yeah pdw is just more niche now

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But makes sense

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Pistol?

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Is it good now

narrow gulch
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Unchanged

hexed vapor
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Should be, it's close to R5 pistol.

plain saddle
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I think you're all forgetting that PDW is useless now because reload cancel muscle memory means it doesn't reload bullets anymore, sheesh

hexed vapor
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But it just has more damage I think?

narrow gulch
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It's slightly better on range and big shit

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That's bout it

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Oh yeah

native lily
narrow gulch
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How bads the reload nerfs

native lily
deft kiln
hexed vapor
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K, I need to commute.

native lily
narrow gulch
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Is pdws dead dead

hexed vapor
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Good luck, team.

narrow gulch
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Or

plain saddle
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I need to frame count, f that

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ggs ray

narrow gulch
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Bye ray

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Is it even close tho

deft kiln
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This just in Beth hel gun main

narrow gulch
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All I care about

deft kiln
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Says hel gun is still good

native lily
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though its working on gaints so it cant be that much worse

plain saddle
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How often are you trying to shoot hel gun at max fire rate, of course its still fine

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Now you get an extra 0.1 seconds to find the line

narrow gulch
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Hel rifle users stay winning

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Even if the hel shotty change worked

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It doesn't matter

native lily
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yeah I dont know why people are complaining about the hel gun chargeup its barely noticable

narrow gulch
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I only win from these changes

last gust
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you're always going to think it's worse than it is until you dial in the timing

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0.3 did feel really chonky though

deft kiln
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Yeah

last gust
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like, not even trying to rapid fire, just trying to land an isolated shot

deft kiln
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A tad Unfo that the skill weapons get tagged when new players don’t even thinks it good

last gust
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I think they should be, tbh

deft kiln
native lily
last gust
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If a gun's busted but noobs can't exploit it, it's still busted

plain saddle
narrow gulch
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Didn't check before leaving

deft kiln
last gust
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just means the top players replace game skill with gun execution skill

deft kiln
last gust
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kinda pushes the game towards being some kind of solitaire

native lily
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I did not know sliding lets you dodge shooter projectiles until now

last gust
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my main problems with the hel gun nerf, are 1) it's the wrong nerf, 2) the mg's are still nuts

deft kiln
plain saddle
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SMG goes from 2+6 to 2+5, with clip size buff, so it is a lot better, but still meh

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Heavy smg is just old pdw

last gust
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oh and for some reason high cal gets 10 per refill at 30 damage?

deft kiln
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Oh nice

plain saddle
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2.45 damage 33 clip

deft kiln
plain saddle
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Slightly better damage, worse reload though

last gust
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like I wanted 30 damage high cal back, 25 damage high cal doesn't really have a place

deft kiln
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Bullpup 2.3 still kills it ? Or is the dmg finally enough

plain saddle
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Still poop

last gust
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but 10 per refill is a bit overkill

native lily
narrow gulch
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BP still has old issues

last gust
narrow gulch
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Better efficiency but

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No one cares

plain saddle
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2+5 to 2+4, but the reload is still long

deft kiln
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Yup firgured when I saw the change

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Like spear change is so lazy

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I am so sad

plain saddle
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I am sad too, reloaded spear is so fun, this spear is just bad hammer

narrow gulch
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It's pretty cookie cutter yea

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Unfortunate but Idc

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It probably works now

deft kiln
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Yeah it will be fine

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But it is so sad

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You will play the same way

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Lock changes are good tho

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Bat change idk if they understand their game

plain saddle
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The sprint is not fast enough, you can't run in fray

narrow gulch
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You can circle kite!!

deft kiln
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You can

plain saddle
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Bat change changes nothing, there's like 0.1 of a breakpoint going on

hallow lark
plain saddle
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Spear breaks locks easier now

hallow lark
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Ah ok

olive shoal
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slide with spear

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its so pro

deft kiln
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???

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oh

native lily
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you move faster if you slide sprint lol

deft kiln
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It does give that now

deft kiln
native lily
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I dont think it was intentional though

hallow lark
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There isn’t slides?

native lily
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so they might take it from us

deft kiln
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Yup

deft kiln
deft kiln
deft kiln
olive shoal
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it didnt

plain saddle
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It did not

olive shoal
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apparently lmao

native lily
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it was suppose to but didnt

deft kiln
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Well idk if it would matter

narrow gulch
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It wouldn't matter either way

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Lol

deft kiln
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Cause it is a buff

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To normal players

narrow gulch
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So true

native lily
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all it would do is make holding m1 more effective

half hornet
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What does shot delay mean anyway

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Isn't it just fire rate nerf

deft kiln
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Time between shots

native lily
deft kiln
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It never needs the extra speed

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Unless you are killing 3 mother births

narrow gulch
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Real hel shotty users stay winning

half hornet
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Why not just say "decreased fire rate"

narrow gulch
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This is just a great day for me

half hornet
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Same

narrow gulch
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Hel shotty hel rifle winning

half hornet
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But probably for different reasons

cold merlin
native lily
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hel shotty combat shotty

deft kiln
narrow gulch
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I can run highcal again now

deft kiln
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No joke

native lily
deft kiln
native lily
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just because I prefer both guns do the same thing

deft kiln
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In speeds I run it a lot

half hornet
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High cal nerf reverse is great, but makes me wonder why did they nerf it to begin with

narrow gulch
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So they could buff it

deft kiln
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No idea

deft kiln
narrow gulch
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301 damage per refill goes hard

half hornet
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There was nothing offensive about a 30 dmg handgun was there?

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Choke Mod had a quirky competitor but that's about it

native lily
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now buff it to 40 damage

deft kiln
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High cal best to think of it as a slug shotty

half hornet
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Video games lack the super hand guns anyway

hallow lark
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I cannot wait to hit “CX” for that staircase of hell

half hornet
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I'm so tired of deagles that are just super glocks

deft kiln
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The name change is odd

narrow gulch
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Yeah

native lily
deft kiln
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When dx or cx is the hardest map

narrow gulch
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I never played them but why retier

half hornet
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Didn't people complain that they were too easy for their respective tiers

deft kiln
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By far

narrow gulch
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Wait

deft kiln
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Dx was the hardest map

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In r6

hallow lark
narrow gulch
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It makes rundown screen cleaner

deft kiln
hallow lark
narrow gulch
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2 3 4 4

deft kiln
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But bx being an a teir

native lily
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I thought the X was suppose to be "shaffer is fucking with it here"

narrow gulch
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Kinda based nvm

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I respect the change

olive shoal
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bx shouldnt be a tier lmao

deft kiln
hallow lark
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Extremely hellish to handle soundless… especially mid-stairs

narrow gulch
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Never played it

deft kiln
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@olive shoal

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Does terminal cheese still work

narrow gulch
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Wait is bx the room scan one

deft kiln
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I forget

balmy robin
deft kiln
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No

hallow lark
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Definitely

deft kiln
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D4 baby easy

hallow lark
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I FUCKING hate shadows

last gust
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DX ending was cancer

hallow lark
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Any levels with shadows, are up there in difficulty

deft kiln
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No

hallow lark
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For me. Yes

native lily
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he cant hear them

olive shoal
deft kiln
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I understand but we can’t say blank is harder without acknowledging the problem. This game has some sound base elements Ofc this gonna make those things harder for them

olive shoal
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ur asking the wrong person

deft kiln
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Got banned

olive shoal
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oh

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lmao

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uh idk

native lily
deft kiln
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Yeah I understand

hallow lark
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No worries

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It’s understandable

west crow
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iam vblianed

deft kiln
west crow
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ewdjfhwoifhdiqp fdqsihd qidsa dqhwidiqo

olive shoal
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hes playing his favourite level

hallow lark
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Gotcha. We all have our things

winter wharf
deft kiln
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Yup sorry sorry ❤️

hallow lark
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Sadly, I can’t hit R6 right away like I hoped

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Have work all day

deft kiln
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Same gl gl on your runs tho

half hornet
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Same

hallow lark
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I will video EVERY one of my attempts

half hornet
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Maybe they'll deploy a patch by the end of my shift

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Although I don't think there is anything worth patching...

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Except I heard sand is awfully shiny today

deft kiln
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Sniper sentry

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Has pen now?

hallow lark
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I’m hella worried about D3 Hidden changes

winter wharf
hallow lark
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I absolutely hated that combo of Shadows + Tank Barracks

deft kiln
hallow lark
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It really is… especially with that Shadow Error

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You need to cross that room many times

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My first time? Friend told me to STFU and move as he moves.

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Loved that interaction hahaha

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So many fun memories

deft kiln
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I love being told the bugs still work

west crow
deft kiln
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Also @velvet linden

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I was right

native lily
deft kiln
native lily
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I know its letting me skip the password but not how I got it to

winter wharf
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sniper sentry not penning enemies

deft kiln
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okay

winter wharf
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not that I thought it would, but

deft kiln
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Thanks I miss read something

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Mb

nocturne flax
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Going into cx now

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Gonna see the penis of specimen 22

deft kiln
atomic escarp
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hello chat

pliant pasture
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huh, the thing i was using rifle rifle for i think the pistol pistol was better at the whole time

deft kiln
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Makes no sense

native lily
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yeah why did they nerf that thing

atomic escarp
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necoarccrying noooo not rifle

native lily
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I just fucking hit a sleeper with a bat and he went flying across the entire room

olive shoal
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rifle was just a long range pistol

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it wouldve been better than pistol

pliant pasture
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The one thing I liked using it for was staggering the stacked up charger wave at the end of R3C1, but pistol pistol has more rounds and also staggers with one shot

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huh, i guess i will find out the fire rate on it tonight

velvet linden
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But yea I’ll tell you when I get home

kind swan
livid heath
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@kind swan

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Where u at

kind swan
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@work

livid heath
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Damn

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So sad

coarse berry
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Also the bat changes seem odd?

daring pilot
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Bruh

cold merlin
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yep

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smaller magazine, shorter range

prisma zodiac
coarse berry
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Really odd to see spear get buffed (which is good) but bat gets hit with a NERF and buff?

hallow lark
coarse berry
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Im boutta try that thing out again

daring pilot
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Just a “hey, rewarded for charging”

coarse berry
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I was curious by how much they nerfed it

daring pilot
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None actually really

coarse berry
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Because if they tool away enough stun on lights thay you cant stunlock tinies, that's a massive bat nerf

daring pilot
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Stagger uncharged from 5x to 4x, charged is changed from 5x to 6x

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So basically it has a range now

cold merlin
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5x -> 4x uncharged stagger (15 -> 12)
5x -> 6x charged stagger (60 -> 72)

daring pilot
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Instead of always doing 5x

coarse berry
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Wonder what that ends up changing

daring pilot
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what’s snatcher stagger hp?

plain saddle
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snatcher does not use typical stagger mechanics, and instead staggers when taking 40 damage (ignores stagger multis)

daring pilot
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Damn wtf

deft kiln
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15-12 stagger dmg

prisma zodiac
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snatcher also completely ignores stagger when running away/around

coarse berry
deft kiln
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Yeah

coarse berry
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in that case im curious why they even did it

deft kiln
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Correct

plain saddle
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Clearly to give it 3 hit stagger on mom, the much needed breakpoint that it has been missing this whole time

west crow
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a lot of the changes seem more theory based then actual number/significant breakpoint based

plain saddle
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And to remove its 3 light tap stagger on giants, the breakpoint that made it op and needed a nerf

deft kiln
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yeah

velvet linden
west crow
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at least the smgs can be distinguished from each other

narrow gulch
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Spear one shots tumor now right

plain saddle
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It does

deft kiln
prisma zodiac
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ignoring bat here

deft kiln
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Tbh

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Idk what the difference between theroy and numbers

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Sometimes I argue they seem to do patch’s randomly

west crow
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we want less mindless bat stagger --> lower light multi but buff heavy multi to promote full charging bat

coarse berry
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they actually gave the bullpup even the numbers i suggested

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2.1 damage and 2.1s reload

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living large today

narrow gulch
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Spear has a place in mommelee now

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Light tap to finish off tumor

west crow
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stagger hammer chains will always be better 😦

coarse berry
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im boutta rock that spear

plain saddle
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But it has no stagger chill, it has no stagger

narrow gulch
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You only have 1

plain saddle
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Any other melee weapon does more work there

narrow gulch
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Ig that's true

plain saddle
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I mean you're very right that spear does more of the less

prisma zodiac
narrow gulch
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Hammer leaves qt 20

nocturne flax
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@balmy robin ive been playing this game for 3 years, i have no clue what the fuck its going on

narrow gulch
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Eh nvm

balmy robin
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Have fun on the D tier anyway :)

narrow gulch
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Can't say meme shit I forgot

coarse berry
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is playing the X levels reccomended after doing the rest? like lore-wise?

prisma zodiac
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Probably

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Its how i wouldve recommended it back then

atomic escarp
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so spear no longer garbage?

cold merlin
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maybe

atomic escarp
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very well

winter wharf
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it's workable

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probably still worse than hammer but

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well, definitely still worse than hammer

coarse berry
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actually does sizable precision damage

atomic escarp
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hammer supremacy

deft kiln
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Kills giant

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Fully

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0.0

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Kinda insane

coarse berry
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actually useful precision damage

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wonder how much less %melee you need to one-hit giants now

cold merlin
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charged spear to occiput + charged hammer/spear to the back + charged knife backstab (on the non-sleeping giant)

deft kiln
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Is probs better two players

cold merlin
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true

coarse berry
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yeah no need for a third

prisma zodiac
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so can do it with 1 agressive

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right?

cold merlin
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but point is the charged spear to occiput + charged hammer/spear to back leaves the giant on very little health anyway

coarse berry
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pretty big changes tbh. spear is no longer a meme choice

deft kiln
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Pretty insane

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What about big chicken dmg

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I forget the values

cold merlin
native lily
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it still cant 1 tap a charger scout right

prisma zodiac
cold merlin
deft kiln
balmy robin
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Dayum

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That is a lot

prisma zodiac
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3 shots from the front

deft kiln
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Instead of needing a scream cancel atm

cold merlin
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sniper headshot

deft kiln
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But also no

cold merlin
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it dies before it can scream 🙏

deft kiln
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yup I can just silent headshot it

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I guess spear head into shotgun slient back shot works now

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But idk if there is the quick double occi

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Unfo

narrow gulch
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Full charge 3 tap might work

deft kiln
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Maybe

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Limb break doesn’t work

narrow gulch
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What's spear stagger multi on tap again

deft kiln
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1

narrow gulch
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I thought it had 2?

deft kiln
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Maybe? I don’t think it does

narrow gulch
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Only on tap

deft kiln
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I think it is a better option than hammer or it

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Probs has a through line without scream CD

plain saddle
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Spear has 2X light stagger multi

narrow gulch
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2 tap to occi should stagger then

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Idk how feasible taps on occi are tho

deft kiln
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Would be crazy

fallow wasp
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The running is ever so slightly faster than walking with spear

deft kiln
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With invisible head

fallow wasp
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got down a short hallway half a second faster, which is by no means a scientific measurement

narrow gulch
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American measurement

deft kiln
plain saddle
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It gets dash, which is big

narrow gulch
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Fuck you I'm 1000 hallways away from your home

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Hide

plain saddle
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@deft kiln Remember when I said I wonder if theres a way to give spear dash without giving it sprint

deft kiln
fallow wasp
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if I were talking in imperial I would say the run is 2 crawling babies faster

narrow gulch
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Be afraid

fallow wasp
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So the upside is the ability to dash?

narrow gulch
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If only

fallow wasp
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I'm perfectly happy with more precision multiplier

narrow gulch
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They shoulda just fixed dodge

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Don't you just eat stamina now

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?

plain saddle
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Yup

deft kiln
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Sprint while charge might

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Be bait

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Tbh

narrow gulch
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It sure seems like it

fallow wasp
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I mean, spear certainly helps you conserve stamina

deft kiln
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71% more stam usage per distance

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Doesn’t seem very good

plain saddle
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You move at 0.75 speed, so isn't it just 1/0.75 times more stam/distance

fallow wasp
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I moreso mean how it would force you to walk

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never having to deal with stamina loss from sprinting

deft kiln
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Yeah

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So 25% wasted stam

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Ehhhh

plain saddle
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But compared to walking, which is 0 stam per distance, only going 29% faster than that

deft kiln
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Yeah

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sprint is probs best for repositioning still

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Not constant

half heart
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is c3 the same?

wary olive
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What the fuck?

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Actually some good changes?

deft kiln
wary olive
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Ok some had to die for others to live

cold merlin
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(But it's now stronger when it's at least half-charged)

prisma zodiac
cold merlin
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Bat under 50% charge: 🙁
Bat at 50% charge: 😐
Bat over 50% charge: 🙂

hexed vapor
wary olive
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why hel gun change again though

coarse berry
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i'm curious what actually changed about the bat

#

i feel like it plays identical

cold merlin
#

Slightly less stagger multiplier uncharged

Slightly higher stagger multiplier charged

half hornet
coarse berry
hexed vapor
cold merlin
#

Not much

hexed vapor
#

Now it's (probably) still top tier, but maybe not at the head of the pack.

half hornet
#

I think you can no longer stunlock giants with quick taps

cold merlin
#

3 less stagger with a tap (15 -> 12)

wary olive
#

is d3 still fun

nocturne flax
#

yes

deft kiln
#

Be free fly like a fish

wary olive
#

😭

deft kiln
#

it isn’t worth it

olive shoal
pulsar zodiac
#

No more D4 extraction bait route

#

😔

olive shoal
#

tragic

hybrid ember
#

Does putting cells in Gen do anything on R6C2?

#

raise fog etc.?

daring pilot
#

you should try it and find out :3

hybrid ember
#

I don't like that answer

cold merlin
#

Well, if R3A2 taught me anything, gens are to be treated with suspicion

daring pilot
#

dragon

#

they fixed door hitbox

nocturne flax
#

anything you get done in gtfo should bring suspicion

#

what i do

daring pilot
#

holy shit

nocturne flax
#

what

daring pilot
#

Eva gonna maybe nmention

prisma zodiac
nocturne flax
#

I knew i beam down that tank a little too well

daring pilot
#

but you can shoot through broken door parts

nocturne flax
#

trough that door

daring pilot
#

this is the hitbox fix

#

has anyone gotten checkpoint bug yet?

#

just curious if the fix worked

nocturne flax
#

i think you cannot shoot in-between the door frames anymore tho

#

i tried in b2 it didnt work

daring pilot
#

like when the door isn't broken yet?

nocturne flax
#

yep

daring pilot
#

ah ok

nocturne flax
#

obscure mechanic i know

#

nobody will miss it

daring pilot
#

wait that's actually super nice

#

for bot players

#

so they stop shooting through doors

half hornet
#

Oh thank fuck.

daring pilot
#

damn this really is a goated patch

nocturne flax
#

but you do KNOW theyre actually hitting theyre shoots when they do that right?

daring pilot
#

half the fixes weren't even documented

half hornet
daring pilot
nocturne flax
#

in classic 10cc fashion

half hornet
#

I don't like it.

daring pilot
#

or hit the door

obtuse surge
#

its good that the hel gun got nerfed again, a few people were still using it

#

the slight hel gun nerfs where you shoot 3 bullets in the timeframe where you used to shoot 9

atomic escarp
half hornet
#

And it's probably still a decent gun.

#

Just not "oops, wave gone" type.

coarse berry
#

when best special in game get nerfed

half hornet
#

I might even give it a shot now.

#

I feel dirty using the golden boys.

obtuse surge
#

you guys are the reason it got nerfed

#

and u probably never use it

#

thanks

tough atlas
#

I'm using it now that it's nerfed

#

for some reason

obtuse surge
#

blackdragon mentality of only using shitty weapons

tough atlas
#

rude

livid heath
obtuse surge
#

early access is over can we stop nerfing weapons in a way that resets muscle memory

livid heath
#

is that mental?

obtuse surge
#

you are mental @livid heath MumeiHappy

livid heath
#

which type

kind swan
fallow wasp
#

Who voices the state of truth?

bold widget
#

I love how fucking flyers were suppose to be introduced in B1

#

But now you got AX

balmy robin
#

I agree ; AX should have been locked behind B1. But it is what it is.

coarse berry
#

prob should've been locked behind d1

#

the objective talks like it takes place after d1

narrow gulch
#

wait

#

so is pink NOT out in the pool

#

or

deft kiln
narrow gulch
#

this is so sad

#

at least I dont have to decide between santonian then

coarse berry
#

i don't know if they added any of the old r6 colors

half hornet
coarse berry
#

10cc loves the FOMO so probably not

half hornet
#

So it still checks out.

bold widget
half hornet
#

Yes. And?

#

They are mutually equal in that regard.

#

No matter which one you pick - it's a fair introduction, although AX is definetely a more rough one.

#

But B1 is where they are let into facility and what allows them to appear in more places than desert. So no plot holes there at least.

deft kiln
#

auto sentry is a meme

#

XDXEDXDXDXD

atomic escarp
#

you're a meme

fresh bronze
noble spoke
#

is your....is your pfp Joshua Graham?

fresh bronze
#

on god tho anyone usin auto sentry is doing so to flex they dont need a real sentry to shoot for them

coarse berry
#

i assume making it penetrate didd nothing

fresh bronze
#

it penetrates now?

coarse berry
#

yeah

#

it's a hel sentry

#

holy shit they shaved 300 rounds off it in exchange

fresh bronze
#

damn thats crazy i had no clue

#

genuinely dont care tho

#

still a pos

coarse berry
#

they could've left the ammo as is and it would've just been okay

fresh bronze
#

yeah i dont think it would have been game changing

eternal dragon
#

I hope they buff MG next patch

fresh bronze
#

can you even call what they did to auto sentry a buff

#

my understanding here is they took the turret and allowed the bullets to hit two enemies at once effectively doubling its max dps potential but also cut the ammo in half

#

but if it doesnt ever hit two enemies its effectively using twice as much ammo

#

idk i get the ammo nerf coming with a damage buff but thats a harsh hit to efficiency

coarse berry
#

auto was SO bad giving it hel and calling it a day wouldve been good

deft kiln
#

they made way way funnier

#

this way

fresh bronze
#

its just objectively worse now is the bad part

coarse berry
#

shame too I wouldve liked having another viable sentry option lol

fresh bronze
#

hell even just removing 150 would have made it a decent buff

#

in this case it just is chewing through ammo faster when it sits there and stagger locks a single fucking striker

coarse berry
#

maybe in r8 i'll get the flamethrower turret i've always dreamed of

#

that could probably do some crowd control

fresh bronze
#

would be pretty cool

#

low range and low damage but infinite pierce turret

#

would be pretty hard to balance tho tbh

coarse berry
#

high tool consumption

fresh bronze
#

yeah

#

its a interesting idea prob better as a mod tho

half hornet
#

Been using it for 3 levels so far and yeah

#

Still not quite it

#

The ammo nerf was not needed

#

It does its' job, but runs out about... 20 seconds too fast

#

Turns any corner into a brutal choke point though

crystal oriole
#

Any one else notice the resource increase in R5E1?

#

There's now a Tool + extra medi in the first zone

winter wharf
#

Really?

crystal oriole
#

Yeah

#

I went to ping our typical ammo+medi when I noticed the other re.

coarse berry
#

sure it's not just the same amount split up

crystal oriole
#

Could be the same medi but there's definitely a tool refill in here now

#

Actually no it's more medi. 4 uses total

winter wharf
#

i can't host the mission lmao

fresh bronze
half hornet
#

Yeah... They shouldn't have done the ammo nerf

fresh bronze
#

its the only sentry i dont run because it just doesnt compete with the other three

half hornet
#

Just make it a long-game sentry.

fresh bronze
#

without the ammo nerf tho i bet it would be a pretty solid pick

west crow
#

you hit twice as many enemies! so we should half the ammo ☝️ 🤓

fresh bronze
#

🤓

rapid cedar
#

what happened to the boss music in r6d1

harsh pelican
pseudo lily
hallow lark
#

OK! They changed up the levels quite a lot

#

I cannot rely on my memory now

atomic escarp
crystal oriole
#

Precisely. And no tool.

#

Weird add tbh

atomic escarp
#

Wonder if other lvls have gotten some extra out of nowhere

rapid cedar
rapid cedar
crystal oriole
#

Boss music did in fact get nixxed. Even if you try to replace it by having the music state change, the boss spawning in flyers immediately resets it for some reason

#

Oh well. At least it works on R5D1 mom fight

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

atomic escarp
#

I hoped we could use r6 music
R6c3 doesnt hit the same

rapid cedar
#

i want og music back

rapid cedar
atomic escarp
crystal oriole
#

R8 music should just be original R1 music

#

I want it back

rapid cedar
#

doing alt r5e1 with that music didnt hit as hard as the original

pseudo lily
tawdry geode
#

Is alt r6bx og r6cx?

atomic escarp
#

Ya

#

They been moved up a notch

#

So they can fit r6d4

#

😂

tawdry geode
#

I thought I was tripping lol

#

Thanks yo

atomic escarp
#

Any time

hallow lark
#

Ok. I managed to rush completions on A1 to C1

#

D1…

atomic escarp
#

Why
Just take it Slow 'enjoy

amber yew
#

i went against and saw the big meat tower for the first time tonight after waiting forever since when i started i wasn't good enough to beat a single expedition on r6
it was worth the wait

atomic escarp
#

Come back and die again WoodsPraise

pulsar zodiac
crystal oriole
#

Farthest we've gotten is putting the Cell into the generator and finishing the alarm

pulsar zodiac
#

Oh I see

#

my bad

crystal oriole
#

My group can only play once a week, and I'm the only one who remembers the level on our next playthrough

#

So we spend like 30m dying before ppl remember again lmao

#

But in any case; good to know there's A) a Class IV Surge B) a Tank blood door and C) 2 snatchers

pulsar zodiac
#

There is couples of undocumented changes in R5E1
which is:
Tank blood door replaced with Charger Blood Door,
Opening blood door will now spawns a snatcher,
approaching C4 surge apex door will spawns a snatcher
and resource increase in various zone

bold widget
#

And snatcher spawns once right?

pulsar zodiac
#

yes

bold widget
#

Weird

coarse berry
#

wait did they change r5e1?

#

when I played it there was very much still a tank door

pulsar zodiac
#

it changed yesterday

coarse berry
#

why'd they do that

#

that tank while under giant alarm was rough as fuck and shouldve stayed that way

pulsar zodiac
#

idk

#

but yes

#

it should stay that way

crystal oriole
#

Sadge

#

It's E for a reason. Should stay true to the old difficulty.

#

I mean, I don't mind the snatcher addition, but keep everything else the same

coarse berry
#

i think tank + giant error AND snatcher is too much imo

#

but would def take tank door over charger door and snatcher

#

harder imo

crystal oriole
#

Just rename the level to F1, ez HackettDAB

#

Never have made it to that point but def. would prefer the Tank fight

atomic escarp
#

I'm glad I did that long ago

wide lion
#

sniper low attack in patch?

pulsar zodiac
#

No

prisma zodiac
wide lion
#

why giant no dead if iht head.

coarse berry
#

how do they accidentally do all that

pulsar zodiac
prisma zodiac
coarse berry
#

Yeah that's true, just v odd. Unneeded imo

real moss
half hornet
#

What do you think are my chances of beating R6B2secondary by myself? Probably not high, right?

#

Don't particularly worry for a main, but i'm not sure how to handle uplinks with bots.

real moss
half hornet
#

Maybe if i'll get lucky with the doors i could perma foam some

real moss
#

the thing on OG is they would spawn on the doors

#

Cause there ain't no 2 rooms away

#

on the one side, the other side has

real moss
native lily
half hornet
#

Its quite rought for newbies, was brutal with OG R6

#

Now should be a cake walk with veterans, but it takes a while and overstays its' welcome.

real moss
tough atlas
#

The uplinks aren't harsh

tough atlas
#

"brutal"

#

The zone on the left had them spawn in 1 room instead of 2

real moss
tough atlas
#

But whatever

#

the other zone gave you like 2 doors on each side roughly

livid heath
#

wana pley?

tough atlas
#

nope dude, thanks

livid heath
tough atlas
nocturne flax
#

Even tho we had some slight nerfs to the level

#

i think its just a better experience because you know

#

we can actually play at a decent 60 fps

#

they optimize the tiles

obtuse surge
fallow wasp
#

I thought it was Joe

cunning herald
#

Is anyone else getting this bug where the matter wave projector disappears after teleporting back in r6a1

tender turret
#

Did B2 yesterday with secondary. Uplink was so easy. If I remember right, it was 4 codes each for 8 in total

#

Wasn’t too difficult

tender turret
cunning herald
#

Yeah the item was dropped when we were in alpha two

#

Thought it would teleport back with us

#

Like how sentries come back

prisma zodiac
#

huh it didnt?

broken scarab
edgy vapor
#

i haven’t had time to play yet, but does Schaffer still talk in R6? I heard the voice line in A1 was removed and I’m just wondering.

half hornet
#

In later missions.

#

Veterans are happy, their ears are now safe.

amber skiff
#

The extra long team scans being gone is quite nice honestly

half hornet
#

Yeah, can agree with that.

#

Listening for Schaeffer in a 60 seconds scan become too much after a while.

tough atlas
#

But still kinda shit

#

Perhaps it's more noticeable on other systems

tough atlas
atomic escarp
#

is hel gun still the best weapon in the game after the nerf or did something finally overtake it

prisma zodiac
kind swan
broken scarab
nocturne flax
tame cloak
#

HCP damage buff, is it back to it's former glory?

atomic escarp
#

yaya

tame cloak
#

The ammo reduction sucks but oh well

atomic escarp
#

at least u get to use it

#

cant have everything

cold merlin
tame cloak
#

Wasn't it already lower than on R7 release ?

#

Okay I just checked, looks like the weapon is exactly in the same state as it was when it was introduced

silk yarrow
#

yea but you have hel rifle

tame cloak
#

and?

atomic escarp
#

hel rifle op

silk yarrow
#

getting 27 kills is more epic than 10

tame cloak
#

Yeah that's cool

#

It's cool there is a better option

#

I'll play with what I want

silk yarrow
#

and less harsh dropoff

#

cooler scope

native lily
#

main downside is it sucks at boss killing

prisma zodiac
#

high cal also has range issues

#

and its mag isnt particularly big

#

Obviously neither are hel rifles and choke mods

#

but both have far better range

west crow
#

I can just walk closer

prisma zodiac
# west crow I can just walk closer

Yaaay another „funny“ beep answer

Anyhow, the difference is that high cal doesnt do multiple times the dmg + pen + stagger vs the higher ranged option. Its actually the opposite

olive shoal
#

Yeah but hel rifle sucks to use lmao

#

And the pen is bugged

prisma zodiac
#

pen bugged is definetly oof

olive shoal
#

so maybe it’s just a hel gun angle again…

prisma zodiac
#

but even glitchy pen of 2-4 is way better than 1

#

and it honestly doesnt suck to use as much as people say it does

west crow
#

i can't be the only one who has experience the hel rifle skill issue where i get tongued by the giant that was supposed to be staggered by the pen that didn't work

#

hel gun, albiet slower now, still shoots fast enough to compensate for the pen not working

prisma zodiac
#

how many giants you lining up? 4 ?

half hornet
#

You've triggered a hidden memory

west crow
#

it sometimes doesn't work on 3

#

it's bugged

prisma zodiac
#

hitting multiple arms is a feels bad man moment at its finest

olive shoal
#

Hel rifle has that weird cooldown thing too right

#

So it shoots p slow

#

Id honestly take high cal over it for reasons like that

#

and choke 4 mag kinda cringe

west crow
#

What choke has over high cal is no fall off issue

#

And funny macro

nocturne flax
#

Poors man burst canon

west crow
#

Ya

deft kiln
#

Chok is in a bad spot in meta game now with high cal and scatter

#

Imo

#

fine gun just general use and reload prob kills it now

astral ferry
#

one more balance change left...

olive shoal
#

one chance to make it right

deft kiln
#

Then go radio silent

astral ferry
#

can we just get flashlight buffs please

olive shoal
#

Friends what are we going to do after that last patch

velvet linden
#

uninstall

olive shoal
#

no point arguing about what guns are good and bad then…

deft kiln
astral ferry
#

discuss ALT:// ALT:// weapon balance changes

deft kiln
olive shoal
#

I don’t want another man

deft kiln
#

Repeat the cycle

#

Come on

#

You can role play as doc red

olive shoal
#

I’m not into roleplay thanks

west crow
deft kiln
#

She just doesn’t want to role play with me

#

😔

west crow
#

why did you change your pfp to the bread joke

#

don't want to be original...

olive shoal
#

LOL

deft kiln
west crow
#

which one

#

the food or the troll

native lily
#

I swear I have seen the hel rifle blow through 5 chargers before

olive shoal
#

It’s possible

#

You would’ve blown through 6 if the code worked too and you got lucky with pen

#

but it’s really rare that you actually get the intended pen

still mica
#

GGTFO

#

The extra g is for gtfoo

native lily
livid heath
cyan swift
#

anyone has a map of alt r6a1?

atomic escarp
#

dont think people have done those yet

west crow
#

.

#

sorry i dont know how to put this in gtfo related questions

prisma zodiac
#

dw beep, i havent taken you serious in ages
florkShrug1

deft kiln
#

@bold widget did a tank spawn on you once you check pointed

livid heath
#

and tank spawned after 2:15mins

deft kiln
#

Wdum

deft kiln
livid heath
bold widget
#

nah

deft kiln
#

Broke all the timings

livid heath
#

no more time for main

#

so i think the tank timer got set back

wary olive
#

notice how they didnt tweak pump shotgun? thats because it's mandatory

nocturne flax
#

wachu mean

#

they remove sway

wary olive
#

only real ones know

nocturne flax
#

you can go bam bam

#

really good

wary olive
#

btw specimen22 still have that chorizo?

nocturne flax
#

quick switch

nocturne flax
narrow gulch
#

also important information

nocturne flax
wary olive
#

maybe its just cold in the complex

#

they run the AC all day or something

nocturne flax
#

nuclear reactors will do that to you

livid heath
#

OMG DRAGON

#

I JUST GOT THE FUCKING THING

#

THAT SHIT IS DISGUSTING BRO

#

HOW IS THAT IN THE GAME

olive shoal
wary olive
#

you wouldnt get it..

#

its a r6 vet thing...

olive shoal
#

would explain why ur so PUB

wary olive
#

PUB AND PROUD

#

✊

olive shoal
#

such confidence...you have my respect...

nocturne flax
#

feet guy down

deft kiln
#

So sad gon archi is muted on one account

narrow gulch
#

this is so not sad

#

can we hit 0 likes

olive shoal
#

a tragic end

fresh bronze
#

how tf should x maps fall into order of difficulty because ax does not feel like a a tier map

deft kiln
fresh bronze
deft kiln
#

yeah

#

min

#

i would do extention

#

last in r6

fresh bronze
#

pov i was comparing ax to a b tier map

#

yeah honestly id say c tier is more accurate considering 3 class 4 alarms and multiple full room team scans

deft kiln
fresh bronze
#

id rank it as a low c tier difficulty map or a very high b tier

deft kiln
#

yeah cx isnt that bad

#

but dx is a thing

#

good map