gtfo-spoiler-chat

[amber skiff]

It is long

[pulsar grotto]

I might have got it, but when we started our shutdown the wave triggered the respawn scout :/

[amber skiff]

Even a quick run by an experienced team nears 2 hrs

D2 is not as long and is much more enjoyable

[ripe void]

purple scans don't make a surge

[amber skiff]

Though I wish they didnt remove the charger alarm, I do like that they removed the acout fog giant zone for cell

[livid heath]

considering the amount of shadows it could had been

but meh

[pulsar grotto]

It felt like it but only coz of the scout lmao

[mortal portal]

Well it's a Class V S then

[pulsar grotto]

The level is making me consider PDW for just the shadow stealth section but I just can't get rid of HEL Shotgun, its too damn good for me

[livid heath]

btw @ripe void

we literally did 6 Class S IV

how did you not notice it was a surge

[ripe void]

that is not a surge

[livid heath]

the amount tho....

[narrow gulch]

isnt the reactor shutdown an M anyways, I thought only the last scan was an S

[livid heath]

lemme see if they moved slow so they stacked

[ripe void]

or it is and I just haven't noticed it ever cuz they spawn so far

R4E1 alarm before mom and tank

[livid heath]

yeah they spawned so far

[ripe void]

S should stand for sustain tho

[pulsar grotto]

I feel like shutdown is a M now that was said? I remember seeing just a large normal scan

[narrow gulch]

that one is not a surge

[old pewter]

S is sustain

[ripe void]

ok yeah

[narrow gulch]

if it doesnt say surge its not a surge lol

[livid heath]

could be shadows going slow ffs

[old pewter]

Full team scans, but if someone leaves or goes down, u lose progress

[narrow gulch]

funnily enough

surges dont have to be team scans either

that precedent is not there

[old pewter]

Probably slow shadows. I forget which mission it is, but there's a class v at the end and u finish it before any shadows get near u

[tough atlas]

It's like with "hybrids" were newbies call everything an "hybrid"

[old pewter]

Still have to wait a minute after ur done with the scans to see them

[tough atlas]

It's the same with Surges

[livid heath]

most of em have but rarely some dont

[tough atlas]

Where they name EVERYTHING surge

[livid heath]

only time i ever recall is having surges all the way on R2E1

a big memory print right there btw

[tough atlas]

all team scan surges? r4c2 extreme (and the scans for overload IIRC) too

[narrow gulch]

those arent even all surges

[ripe void]

that cluster in R5E1 first surge

[livid heath]

its a M?

[prisma zodiac]

r2e1 last surge is team scan into 2 cluster

[livid heath]

1 full team -cluster- 1 full team

oh yeah i remember now

[old pewter]

I havent reached the final surge in R2E1. That mission is so rough. Having a bot did not help at all

Got super close tho

[livid heath]

bots literally sucks

even more in errors

[native lily]

biotracker in fog tho

[livid heath]

true

[old pewter]

[livid heath]

but they cant do nothing but THAT

[native lily]

yeah but you can bum rush through the fog without the turbine if you bring one

[old pewter]

Bot bio with sniper sentries on R5B1 overload

[frail horizon]

bots in r2e1 are entirely rng

[livid heath]

sniper sentry with 30% cpu speed

[frail horizon]

you have to be perfect and hope they dont fuck you up

[west crow]

Rundown 6 Alt will revert sniper sentry back to pre Rundown 3 alt

[frail horizon]

especially when they cant move while giving resources to themselves or others

[old pewter]

Omg on Monday I was running R5B1 for PE. We finished extreme and overload and just needed to finish main. It was free. However.....steam servers went down and we lost the run.....

[frail horizon]

medipack self → crowd tongues you → need medipack → loop

go down, dauda goes in, gets down, run dead

[native lily]

I dont think I ever let them get their hands on a medipack

[old pewter]

"oh u got downed by 5 enemies? Let me revive u right underneath them!

[ripe void]

I was just about to say bots running in for the reveive when you are in the middle of like 30 strikers

[tough atlas]

I think that wasn't r5b1

r5b1's "main" in pe at the end is literally just walk to the extraction scan

[old pewter]

Must've been finishing extreme then

[tough atlas]

what was the objective of main?

I can tell you what level it was

[old pewter]

Idr tbh LOL

[tough atlas]

😄 nvm then

[old pewter]

The only thing I focus on is reactor then go on autopilot

It was definitely R5B1

[west crow]

Hsu, Gens, reactor

[old pewter]

That sounds like it

[west crow]

SMOTHER

[tough atlas]

level with reactor AND sectors... r4b1, r4d1, r4e1, r5b1...

[tough atlas]

yeah it's r5b1 then

unlucky then

after overload map is a snoozefest

[old pewter]

HSU missions r so forgettable for me. The only exception is R3C1

Started playing on R3 and we grinded that mission day after day, run after run

We couldn't get past the error alarm cause we weren't good at dealing with chargers

We didn't beat it before R4 released

[prisma zodiac]

I can not believe that you dont remember r1a1. What about key nr 47 its succh a good boy

[old pewter]

Well that's R1A1. I don't pay attention at all during it Lol

[livid heath]

thought you pulled up to play

was gathering a team to maybe try do cell skip (R5E1)

[old pewter]

What is cell skip? I've heard it mentioned like 10 times in the past couple days

Oh R5E1

I haven't even gotten into the C levels of Alt R5

[ripe void]

plenty of chances for lemon head then

[livid heath]

skipping 75% of the level in the most death wishing way possible

[livid heath]

come tuho

[pulsar grotto]

Sounds fun

[old pewter]

Sounds like fun! I'd like to give that a try after a normal completion

[ripe void]

I play R6 (not gtfo)

[livid heath]

omg the toxic game

[ripe void]

I have 2 cell skip completions and no normal ones

[livid heath]

10 normal complete and no cell skip cause no one agrees to

[ripe void]

sad

no cellskip

[old pewter]

Is cell skip meant to be an actual completion method or something people just figured out?

[livid heath]

its to avoid playing the level intended to be played

you are subjected to sneaking through 2 zones

[prisma zodiac]

The general idea is skipping part of a level. This one being called cell skip due to doing so with a cell youd usually use earlier

R6D1 has reactor skip
R7C1 kinda has fog skip

[old pewter]

That's the worded I was looking for, intended

[native lily]

what is cell skip again

[livid heath]

(2 moms, 1 tank + charger scouts and BBCs)

and with cell skip

[old pewter]

Definitely sounds like something I'd like to try

[livid heath]

you have to forcibly fight all of them

[old pewter]

Oh boy

[prisma zodiac]

Its recommended to do so after having done the normal route

unless you just wanna be carried rly

cuz cell skip is brutal blind

[old pewter]

Definitely gonna do a normal completion first

[old pewter]

I'm gonna play it with friends that haven't played it at all

[livid heath]

so you basically (85% infection, limited resources after mom-tanks and a giant alarm after that)

[old pewter]

I hate being carried

[livid heath]

just to skip 45-50min of extra casual play time

[old pewter]

Unless it's for PE

[livid heath]

E1 has no

[native lily]

bring them into r4e1 their first time playing

[livid heath]

only exception being R4E1

has

[old pewter]

Just a general statement lol

About being carried

[livid heath]

it feels great to be in both chairs

you have to try both

[old pewter]

Wym?

[livid heath]

you said you dont like getting carried?

[old pewter]

U mean both carrying and being carried?

[livid heath]

well it is a 4 player coop

[onyx parrot]

or just like

work as a team 👍

being carried isnt fun nor is carrying imo

[coarse berry]

impossible

[onyx parrot]

if u believe u can do anything

[coarse berry]

Simply unrealistic. I am going to shoot my teammates in the back with high cal

[onyx parrot]

u see

this is bc u don't believe

[marsh tinsel]

2 questions about the trailer. Someone from the 10 chambers team said they changed R6, and will show some of the changes in the trailer. But literally nothing changed in the trailer, or did I miss something? Second question, is this the old hammer in 0:45? https://youtu.be/8gqyHgXUjJs

[hasty condor]

idk,but whether there is a difference between first-person and third-person perspectives?

[tough badger]

might've technically been able to see some tile changes, or something else not immediately obvious in all the extremely short cuts

maybe they added meatballs to the A1 teleporter event but those shots could easily just have been angle from B1 I'm not used to seeing. the cuts that were obviously from the A1 desert section had no meatballs.

maybe the sandstorm actually happens now?

[coarse berry]

Doubt

[tough badger]

same lol I'm just trying to figure out if there's anything I'm actually supposed to be able to tell is different

[hasty condor]

The dimensional residence time of A1 is too short

maybe B1

[tough badger]

I actually don't doubt that they made at least 1 or 2 significant-ish changes to the levels, I'm just not convinced any of them were shown in the trailer lmao

[coarse berry]

Trailer was just kind of all fluff

[tough badger]

i think it was all a riff on the original r6 trailer, which i do like

[livid heath]

all bark but no bite

[west umbra]

b u t why SEPTEMBERRR

[coarse berry]

Especially for the rundown that likely took the least work lol

Maybe I'm wrong though I guess we'll have to wait a month to see

[west umbra]

I mean it certaintly feels that way

so it is probably late september?

[coarse berry]

i'd guess so

[prisma zodiac]

its most likely early september lol

releasing the update long after the trailer would make little sense

and they are quite litteraly at gamescom rn so theres a reason for no current release

[coarse berry]

I hope you're right but I feel like they wouldve given us a specific date then

[prisma zodiac]

Theyve said before that they dont like giving deadlines that might not work out

why might it not work out?
Potential bugs etc

ALT R5 appearantly had gamebreaking issues shortly before release

[tough badger]

Love that for my son
Go break the game, r5

But it definitely sounds like "we want to release this when we get back to the office but if something catches fire y'all gonna have to wait"

And it's an old unity game built with duct tape and bubble gum so we all know something is going to be broken whether they release it soon or not :^)

[half hornet]

Oh god thanks for reminding me

Remember lads!

Apparel drop bug!
Wait day 1 patch first, or be the sacrificial lamb sent to the minefield

[daring pilot]

Or just be me and have not completed every rundown

Honestly glad i still got like 9 levels incomplete

[real moss]

tempo, shots, and feeling are almost the same. tempo and pauses in dialogue are exactly the same. text is changed tho and there were some shots different

or from another angle

oh and other voice actor

[tough atlas]

Since I didnt reset the rundowns I still miss 5 cosmetics, 1 from r5, and 4 from alt r4

Completing r6 will give me those?

[real moss]

should have resetted 🙂

[tough atlas]

Since I already have all r6s?

[daring pilot]

Bishop this time

[tough atlas]

No since I didnt and do not care

But I'm curious

[daring pilot]

Also thought i saw respawn sacs in floodways

Which would be different

[tough atlas]

Since I think I got an ALT R4 cosmetic from ALT R5

[real moss]

no cause R6 and Alt R6 count as 2 different rundowns as has been shown by switching back to OG's

[daring pilot]

Yeah

[hasty condor]

what 2 different

[daring pilot]

Like i technically got extra rewards when i reset ALT R4

[real moss]

R6 and Alt R6 like I said

the levels etc are the same. but the game registers them as two different rundwons entirely

thats why my OG R3 completions do not match up with the Alt R3 completions when going back to OG R3

[coarse berry]

I assume playing old r6 to get cosmetics wont carry over?

[fallow wasp]

Can 10 chambers please change spawns on R7A1 so they can change it to ALT R7 and make it satisfying

[half hornet]

One can dream

[kind swan]

[real moss]

Probably not

[coarse berry]

pain.

[deft kiln]

Wait are we really not getting r8 this year?

[real moss]

need to change the glowstick Color as well

[real moss]

you guessed it m8

[deft kiln]

This is crazy

[real moss]

but call me meaby

[coarse berry]

at this rate id be shocked if we get r8

[deft kiln]

We will get an r8

But idk if anyone will be playing

[real moss]

we will it's in the making technically as 3 A's have been confirmed

[real moss]

Well Calle promised me that my great grandson would be able to play it

[deft kiln]

They promised there would be other hacking mini games

[coarse berry]

thats what I really want

[real moss]

Fair

[real moss]

not happening anymore as mechanics wise game is done

you'll get meaby a new objective, enemies, environment but no new game systems

[coarse berry]

so you're telling me there's no hope of the same hacking minigame but in reverse

why even live

[deft kiln]

I really hope r8 is just a empty space meant for modded rundowns

[real moss]

As there are levels already listed, I doubt it

[coarse berry]

those levels just seem like a generic 'teaser'

watch r8 have 3 a tiers, and 2 b's and thats it

[atomic escarp]

lets not have more than 1 a tier and 2 b tiers

give us the juicy Cs n Ds

[coarse berry]

in a perfect world r8 would have 3a 3b 3c 3d and 3e

[atomic escarp]

🤤

[coarse berry]

you wanna see the end of the story? fucking work for it

[real moss]

3 A is already confirmed. so that's out of the window

it will have 1 C and 1 D watch 😂

[livid heath]

that world

is real

in 10 billion posibilities

[coarse berry]

maybe with gtfo's 59265782369738637 alt universes there's one where its true

[native lily]

give it an f tier level as the ending

[coarse berry]

if only

[fallow wasp]

It’ll have the same amount of levels as R5, but wait! After you clear them all it will unlock and reveal 2 more levels for each tier and then F1

[atomic escarp]

screw this im out

[pulsar grotto]

If they ever change R7, I wish they would fix buggy D1 and make pablo interesting, everything else seems pretty good to me

[idle nacelle]

D1 fixes would be really nice

I have some friends that I want to take through it but I'm just not interested in the teleporting neonate or the overload glitches

prob make them do R7C3 instead

[fallow wasp]

Would love if Pablo could randomly disappear and come back shortly after behind a door

[kind swan]

If Pablo could just teleport like it's an active ability

[real moss]

Alt R7 was confirmed NOT coming

[hexed vapor]

Guys...

September 1

[deft kiln]

wait

really

?

no way

[nocturne flax]

cant wait for the re release of the legendary r6

[deft kiln]

@hexed vapor ARE WE AT LEAST GETTING MASSIVE BAL CHANGE

[nocturne flax]

Are we?

[narrow gulch]

this is so sad

can we get a combat shotty buff

[nocturne flax]

i really doubt it

can we pls buff carabine again

[fresh bronze]

missing a single 1

never forget

[tough badger]

Mr. President a second r6 has hit the live servers

[fresh bronze]

oh no... anyways

[atomic escarp]

💀

[dry dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/halo3-gif-23711006

[chrome rivet]

16 rounds in a mag would go hard

[kind swan]

[cold epoch]

Gamescom E tier has fallen 😎

[winter wharf]

That didn't take long then, did it?

How was the level

[cold epoch]

To be fair we had a thousand hour player filling in and we somewhat got lucky

[livid heath]

Wait you played the level?

[cold epoch]

Great honestly

[cold epoch]

Aye aye

[livid heath]

Any record?

Or just what tileset or what the level had

[winter wharf]

That's nice to hear, but also quite the shame because it's unlikely that we get the level ourselves

[cold epoch]

I mean no since we play on 10cc's pcs

[livid heath]

I thought so

But was there a special tileset or just gardens/mining?

[cold epoch]

Lab

[tough atlas]

To be fair especially if they're not willing to release the level ever they might aswell allow you to record the run

[livid heath]

Any new alarms or just a stacked up difficulty cause of E tier

[livid heath]

They will give us the level

Trust

[tough atlas]

All of it is Lab?

[cold epoch]

Alarms aren't the issue in this level

[cold epoch]

Yes

[livid heath]

They wouldn’t just make it a exclusive and not drop it on the September drop

[livid heath]

Pmoms/tanks?

[tough atlas]

I dont think they required you to sign an NDA so you can talk about the level more in the specific?

[cold epoch]

Not even

[cold epoch]

Yeah but I think I'll spoiler tag it in case someone here wanna do it

[livid heath]

Yea

Do that

[cold epoch]

Spoiler Gamescom Rundown ||You have to clear somewhat hard stealth sections, plus datasphere, while under a Soft time limit of 15 min. With error alarms on top||

[livid heath]

Timed till alarm?

[cold epoch]

Think ||R6D3||

[tough atlas]

Like ||R6CX Extreme but with a datasphere||?

[livid heath]

D3 had

[winter wharf]

||sounds like cell skips cousin or something||

[livid heath]

Don’t remember which one your referring to

[cold epoch]

At the ||end of R6D3. You have a time limit before infinite surge happens||

[livid heath]

On was it?

[kind swan]

R6D3 had a surge?

Oh nvm

I'm thinking r6d2

My memory is hazy

[livid heath]

: shut down reactor

If forgot

turn on a different reactor

[kind swan]

Ik. Wubcatbraibfart moment

[cold epoch]

Search IDs in the fog

[livid heath]

[kind swan]

[tough atlas]

||You could do PE with Overload, Main then Extreme, and at the end of Main you get 15mins before surge, or do Main, Overload and Extreme and have endless time to finish Extreme.||

[livid heath]

Main rises fog

[tough atlas]

I'm pretty sure fog starts rising after Overload?

[livid heath]

No

If I remember when i played it 2 weeks ago

After checkpoint on main it rises fog every reactor wave

[plush basin]

Nope

Its overload

[tough atlas]

I'll tell you the truth I only know overload-main-extreme path

[livid heath]

Yeah same too

[tough atlas]

never did overload after main

[livid heath]

It could be overload fog rises like R4D2 fog

But no infection

Atleast thats fine

[kind swan]

Overload after main was just to have no timer after for secondary wasn't it?

[atomic escarp]

yes

[ripe void]

it's overload

[livid heath]

Yea I remember

And it was 1 hour ago tuho

[livid heath]

[winter wharf]

ok I need to know

were artefacts spawning in lockers at gamescom

because if they weren't then oh my god why can't we play the level, i hate opening a locker only for it to be an artefact

[deft kiln]

Why is this your question

[winter wharf]

Because I despise boosters and will be extra sad if the banger mission is extra banger by not having artefacts

and I want to know if people are abusing boosters at gamescom too

[deft kiln]

Probs not

[half hornet]

Considering boosters is a "time = advantage" mechanic for long term players that allows them to edge levels that they're stuck on - I assume gamescom game ver didn't had the mechanic present since why would one time playthrough needs this mechanic.

[solemn wigeon]

Help later prisoners by gathering artifacts

[fallow wasp]

Imagine getting a bunch of cool ass boosters that the next team uses to clear the level with ease and then they’re used up

[half hornet]

Exactly

Personally I love my candy

... I might have a gambling problem

[kind swan]

RNGJesus didn't choose us

[solemn wigeon]

[prisma zodiac]

Didnt see any

[deft kiln]

What was level objective and complex set

[prisma zodiac]

Jish

bruh

[winter wharf]

Labs, datasphere carry

[deft kiln]

Kk

Mb sorry Eva

[winter wharf]

Was said before

[deft kiln]

I ain’t reading gtfo discord lore

[prisma zodiac]

Crazy expedition tho, first time outside of modded where ive seen chargers in a surge

[solemn wigeon]

Datasphere carry

[prisma zodiac]

and then having snatchers was brutal

[solemn wigeon]

Aint no fuckin way you had a charger surge

Rarest spawn

[prisma zodiac]

i mean they also had you open doors and then fucking spawned chargers and snatcher while going into bbcs/hybrid zone

[atomic escarp]

cap spawning chargers?

[prisma zodiac]

Nah, only 2

[atomic escarp]

how was it, easy, hard?

[coarse berry]

first time I played r4c2 secondary, saw a surge on the door, looked up and saw the charger ceiling goop I just went "oh fuck"

but it was all regulars >:(

[atomic escarp]

sounds very malicious

would like to try

[solemn wigeon]

I'm suddenly expecting a lot more from R8

With that difficulty in A tier instead of E tier

[atomic escarp]

it better be peak gtfo experience

[prisma zodiac]

:^ )

[tough atlas]

How does the game actually distribute res?

Let me explain my question better

Does it have a range over how many uses a pack can have in a zone?

Cause I know most zones have 1 pack of each in most maps

And I think sometimes I get 1 pack with 6 uses instead of 4+2 or whatever

[plush basin]

How I had it explained to me is each zone has a number of uses of each resource to generate, and those packs have a chance to be split up. So a 6 can become a 4 + 2 or 2+2+2 etc

[tough atlas]

But the uses themselves are fixed or a range?

[plush basin]

Fixed I believe

[prisma zodiac]

it depends on how it can split

Usually that is:
1
2
3 (3, rarely 2/1)
4 (4, 2/2)
5 (5, 3/2)
6 (3/3, 4/2, 2/2/2)
7 (4/3, 3/2/2, 5/2)
8 (4/4, 6/2, 4/2/2, 3/3/2)
Etc

theres some situations where instead of a 5 use you get a 4+2 use

say r4d2 2nd last alarm zone can have that happen for any of ammo/med/tool

[tough atlas]

But barring your examples, they're fixed, right? It can never be a 6 use instead of single 3 (or 2+1)?

[prisma zodiac]

afaik it at most changes by 1

maybe more in areas like r6d1 or r7d2 with massive uses

but we rarely count those

[tough atlas]

Thanks

[livid heath]

@prisma zodiac

You free?

[kind swan]

DARKEV4: N0

[atomic escarp]

in the code value of 1 means 4-6 uses will spawn

[winter wharf]

R4E1 Zone 457 you can get 2+2+2, 4+3, or 6

for another example

[deft kiln]

5 will spawn with one.

1.1 is 5-6 and .9 is 5-4

Every .2 is a full use

But unless something goes horribly wrong 1 is always 5 or 2/3

[atomic escarp]

ah i see

[wide lion]

where r 6

[pulsar zodiac]

september

[livid heath]

[fair fern]

eva

is there any error alarm execpt mr pablo in r7e1?

if i remember correctly there arent any

there is 1 extraction alarm, 1 full zone scan that need cfoam cheese, 1 survive the desert area, 1 class 5 at the start, 1 reactor

[prisma zodiac]

post reactor there is one

Also the thunderdome (full zone) doesnt need foam cheese

[wide lion]

why september

why no 24 august?

[real moss]

because trailer says september

[wide lion]

😦

[pulsar zodiac]

I kinda expected it to be after gamescom
since they have an exclusive level for gamescom instead of R6 level

[west umbra]

Yeh.. why not make new levels for gamescom if you’re not gonna add em to the actual game…

[solemn wigeon]

Y'all are so salty over a 10 minute demo

[pulsar zodiac]

it's okay tho, you can play the gamescom level if someone willing to replicate it

[half hornet]

I hear you.
Counter point: we'd love to have new content too, no matter how small.

Especially if levels are actually fun and well designed.

If they have any sense - they'll add them later to main game anyway. Call it "intermission" or something.

[solemn wigeon]

GTFO community thinking they need alt content 😎

[half hornet]

High hopes for a new set in R6... Please let it be heavy armor

[solemn wigeon]

Still waiting for shirtless hackett

[kind swan]

Woods seeing the Holy Light in (Shirtless) Hackett

[real moss]

on release or one day later ?

[solemn wigeon]

One day prior

[dry dagger]

@hallow lark I see. Good on you brother. This game is pretty stressful with no sound. That first room with enemies in C1 is no joke.

[royal lichen]

a lot of dudes followed us to extract, a hybe from respawn 2 tagged along, pulled respawn 1.. but saul goodman, pew pew 🙂

[hallow lark]

Finished MANY full rundowns starting with R6

and did some solo runs with bots

[royal lichen]

wyvern being the absolute chad he is, didnt doubt for a second

[hallow lark]

Any level that is new to me, I always take Bio. but in EVERY level, I always have to keep my awareness to the max

its.... extremely exhausting to be constantly aware of things

[fair fern]

1 question

whats better for r5c1

a sniper or a hel rifle

[atomic escarp]

sniper

[fair fern]

sniper is good for delete stuff

but on the other hand, bc there are too many giants and hybrid

[narrow gulch]

just have 1 sniper

[fair fern]

is there by any chance hel rifle is better

[narrow gulch]

hel rifle will help you more with everything besides fucking up

[atomic escarp]

it is if you are getting 2+ enemies penetrated otherwise its not good (for that lvl)

[coarse berry]

sniper on that levels kinda meh IMO

if you don't fuck up the giant nest rooms, it doesn't have much use

[fair fern]

for the extraction though

that last part is insane

[coarse berry]

that's true

you -can- stealth through the rooms to get back but having a sniper there can be huge

[fair fern]

trying to run through 2 big respawn room

[coarse berry]

but hel rifle can fill that void too 'cause if you're at exfil they'll line up well

[fair fern]

dodging every giant

[nocturne flax]

R5C1

Just bring sniper

and be done with it

stealth the cluster room since it would take less time

as in just sneak by

[coarse berry]

I did it with a duo and I think our loadout was Hel revo + High Cal for me and PDW/Sniper on my buddy

[nocturne flax]

aside from sniper the level its pretty straighfoward

and pretty fucking boring

[coarse berry]

it's a cool level IMO, good presentation when you open the apex door and see the absolute shitfuck room

[royal lichen]

map out return path of least resistance and walk thru, ez

[fair fern]

can we remove the map out part and replace it with gun blazing

[atomic escarp]

if u do side zones for extra ammo sure

[fair fern]

its a boring level but i cant get pass it

[atomic escarp]

you doin secondary?

[fair fern]

we arent man if we didnt do pe in 1 run

so yes, also secondary

without secondary that level would be easy

[atomic escarp]

that is the worst part of the lvl and ITS BORING

[fair fern]

true

that level is boring to the point that eventhough i need a completion of that i wont do it

[atomic escarp]

well if u need to unlock the other lvls

might as well but otherwise

🤮

[livid heath]

[amber skiff]

Man and I thought people liked C1

I think its a neat level

[deft kiln]

I think 3 uplinks

That are long isn’t the most compelling gameplay

[hallow lark]

If you want... I could teach ya how to do it without sounds XD

[winter wharf]

Should've combined them all into 1 uplink

Secondary is a terminal command that increases unlink length by 10 codes for a total of 24

[dry dagger]

I'm down to play whenever.

[spare crescent]

when R6 update?

[fallow wasp]

Soon, my child

[kind swan]

[real moss]

september

like the trailer says

[spare crescent]

oh sorry i didnt notice

[solemn wigeon]

You fool

[deft kiln]

Are people interested in a spitter sound bug fix

[winter wharf]

Fixing a lobby/run ruining bug? Sounds good

Is this in line with the kill everyone then blow yourself up as you res someone sorta thing though

[deft kiln]

This is the one that will stop spitters taking sound then crashing game

[winter wharf]

Ye ik what spitter bug does, I'm curious as to how you prevent/fix it though

[mortal portal]

I think it has to do with the amount of spitters in the zone. Same with cocoons.

[royal lichen]

silentsacks.dll has been around for a while tho

[kind swan]

Silentsacks

Wyvern has that by default

[atomic escarp]

🤐

[toxic forge]

ah

👀

[mellow creek]

alright boys looks like

we gona have r8 in 3 months

[deft kiln]

Where???

If this is on some GitHub somewhere I am gonna be annoyed

[royal lichen]

might not be on thunderstore, not sure.. will try to find and share

[deft kiln]

Do you have any knowledge on the fix or does it just mute them

Kinda want to find a better solution but the mute is a good starting place

[royal lichen]

it limits the audio emitting entities to a low number iirc

[deft kiln]

I like that solution

I have a thought that spitters might not being culled correctly by chance

[royal lichen]

incoming dm

[atomic escarp]

there is a mod that removes the sacks but still has the lumps on the ground

[deft kiln]

Spitters

[atomic escarp]

ah

[deft kiln]

This one is also really good for performance I like it a lot

I think there is a slightly better solution getting rid of the respawn sacks animations or reducing their number

[atomic escarp]

why not just get rid of em all

[deft kiln]

I like having post signals of respawn room

Sometimes in some crazy modded maps I miss it

[atomic escarp]

fair enough

[deft kiln]

Maybe I just need to look at the ground more

[atomic escarp]

you also can memorize the rooms

[deft kiln]

Yeah also a thing

Could just be a skill issue

[fading aspen]

Team is having lots of issues clearing R5D2 after third reactor wave (when moving to zone with big chargers past all the respawn rooms) any strategies for weapon comps to kill the big enemies/boosters to cross 1 shot thresholds with the sniper on the big chargers?

[deft kiln]

You can just slow stealth with one person

Then 3 hold

I do a two two split and have lock melters go In because of the break lock that needs to be delt with

Any weapons we norms don’t kill anything unless scout has awful location points

If you really are having trouble I would half pull after a wave scream

That way you can deal with half of the big room at a time

Would take held rifle if you be doing that

[plain saddle]

What isn't bad either is to 4 man hold on the bridge just before opening the door. Try to clean up the wave super fast, and then open door asap. You can 4 man clear the room pretty safely, either backing back up to the bridge if you have foggies, or just 2-2 holding just inside the room (one 2 gets a nice long hallway, and the other 2 gets to hold a ladder)

[amber skiff]

Duo defense is fun, often I just solo with sentry tho. My friends are quick enough with charger zone that I dont have to worry about compounding skill issues for that long

[native lily]

im debating trying to duo that level with auto-sentry's since we are more or less forced to both clear the charger zone and deal with the normal waves at the same time

[lyric gulch]

We duoed it having one person hold reactor waves with burst sentry while the other stealthed code, it worked well. If you use all but one tool refill on the sentry and save it for the third code, you can have 60% burst sentry ammo, which will last plenty until the other player gets the code

[lyric gulch]

Nothing will 1-shot big chargers even with boosters, but if you're pulling the rooms a Hel Rifle is very solid. You can use it to kill (charger) scouts, it's great for killing the large enemies in the respawn room as they're all clustered up, and it's solid for the chargers/big chargers, too.

[native lily]

I dont think either of us stealthing through that is going to happen

and the plan with the auto sentrys was to only use them on the big charger zones because they more or less completely stop them from getting near you

[fair fern]

we go gun blazing

if we cant get through a part, that mean we didnt shoot enough/aim head enough

[fresh bronze]

ahh big chargers the mostly reasonably well balanced enemy in the game, amount of time to kill you from full health is counted in frames and the speed and health and armor they command is fucked. To top it off they spawn in groups

[prisma zodiac]

Burst cannon will with boosters
Scattergun (soon tm)

[real moss]

Truly magnificent specimens.

[fresh bronze]

truly the only gtfo enemy worth spawning

[late bloom]

don't need boosters if you can hit the back

[fresh bronze]

if you can get behind an awake giant charger ill be more impressed then by the fact you one shot it

[real moss]

that's why when playing R1A1 with new players I replace all spawns with them

[fresh bronze]

how to make an a tier map a e tier map

nah prob d

[real moss]

About to say

[fresh bronze]

i dont really remember r1a1 kek

isnt it a class 2 and a class 3 alarm and a few sleepers

[real moss]

2 and 4

[fresh bronze]

damn @real moss we managed to kill this channel for nearly 24 hours now im impressed

[livid heath]

yup

congratz

[real moss]

It's power only few can hold

[fresh bronze]

brings a tear to my eye

[real moss]

Enjoy it m8. Chat as quiet as a KFC in Iceland

[fresh bronze]

as quiet as the average burger king in the united states

unironically never seen a car in a burger king parking lot

im convinced they are just a front for money laundering

[real moss]

Aren't they all?

[prisma zodiac]

Back from gamescom

[real moss]

Welcome back

did you copy the level like you were paid to do?

[prisma zodiac]

„Paid“ pff

[rare sleet]

Almost snuck out with one of our rigs what the fuck Eva

[willow arrow]

He fucking what

He almost yoinked a pc?

[winter wharf]

When noone was looking I took off a side panel of one of the pcs and replaced the ssd

[native lily]

Did you not see the video of him disassembling a pc and attempting to swallow the ssd

[prisma zodiac]

[cold epoch]

This is why you guys killed him with glowsticks

[livid heath]

NOOOO

we almost had it

[kind swan]

[deft kiln]

you missed it tho. eva was the distraction.

[kind swan]

[void thunder]

I loaded into R7B3 and there is absolutely no infect fog on the level for some reason.

Is this a bug?

[atomic escarp]

yes

[void thunder]

I played on this level before, and this is the first time I see this

[atomic escarp]

it can happen here n there

but i believe that events that trigger fog will still work

[livid heath]

its a bug

[daring pilot]

Did you just play a level where you teleport?

[void thunder]

yea

[daring pilot]

I assume you died mid tp

That’s how that bug starts

You have to relauncvh

[void thunder]

no

the fog was missing from the very start

[daring pilot]

huh

Even the first time you did the level?

[void thunder]

no, just this one time

[daring pilot]

Ok well point is you gotta restart

[tough atlas]

I think it can happen in any level with fog of R7

And once it does it carries over to any expedition you do

I had it once in R7B3 and it carried over to a R7C1 attempt

Had to restart the game

Never had it in non-R7 maps

[half hornet]

The ways of spaghetti code are truly something to behold

[real moss]

Hmmm probably tied to checkpoints

[atomic escarp]

it only happened on fresh starts, never seen it after cps

[real moss]

That makes it worse, checkpoints can break your game even when NOT using them.

[atomic escarp]

[real moss]

R7 is only rundown with em. R7 is only rundown with this bug. I call the power of the tin foil

New checkpoint bug confirmed

[atomic escarp]

fixed in 20XX

[tough atlas]

...Are those "checkpoints" here in the room with us?

Can you see them?

[real moss]

watch them keep the checkpoints in R6 and it being the only other rundown getting this bug. Imma lose it if it happens

[atomic escarp]

they will

unfortunately

[real moss]

I see em even in my sleep

[tough atlas]

😆

Jokes aside I'm surprised this doesn't happen in ALT maps where fog goes up/down

So perhaps DJDNA is right

[real moss]

Well all joking aside the devs pullen so much shit it actually would not surprise me of this bug is related to the maps having the checkpoint in them without players actually being able to use em

[tough atlas]

Ironically I never saw this on R7B2, and in that map fog doesn't change

[real moss]

Now A quick preliminary check would be R7E1

no checkpoint, still R7 and has fog changing

[meager nebula]

for r7c3, do you not start with any ammo?

[winter wharf]

No ammo, no tool

That's the entire point of the level until you get to the armoury

[meager nebula]

ah ok

i was just reading the wiki on bullet cost and saw the note about r7c3. doesnt look like the page for r7c3 has been made yet

i cant wait to get to that level hehe

sounds fun

[half hornet]

It's fun first couple of tries, then it just grindy on multiple attempts.
At least second part is actually fun due to all the hot action.

[old pewter]

Lots of fun, lots of suffering

I played it drunk

[pulsar grotto]

R7C3 only fun for me when doing Overload at least(but at that point why not PE?)

[old pewter]

Did way better than I expected with me being such a big handicap

[narrow gulch]

Top tier level

[meager nebula]

is r7c3 the only warden protocol mission so far?

what does the warden get mad we were talkign to schaffer haha

[pulsar grotto]

Henriksson trips an alarm doing some hack-er-engineer stuff, so place goes crazy

And no R5B4? I believe is a warden protocol

[atomic escarp]

ya also r6c3

[tough badger]

R5B4 is the original, then R6C3 and R6CXsecondary

[real moss]

R5B4, R6C3, R6CXsec, R7C3 (it's basically a warden protocol)

[real moss]

Never did a non- PE run of R7C3, I imagine it would be way more boring like R5B4 for example

[tough badger]

You get to muck about in the extra resource zone which is at least more claustrophobic than R5B4

[real moss]

More doors?

R5B4 do be very open

[tough badger]

It's your classic storage maze, yeah

[real moss]

ah so mine away the waves

Never opened that zone, should go and check it out

[tough badger]

Assuming you can find all the tool you can mine most of it
Though the snatcher can complicate that plan ever so slightly

[real moss]

Snatcher is not an issue

[pulsar grotto]

For a non overload R7C3 you basically just sit at the door for a while.....

[tough badger]

And you have to eventually push back through the waves to actually extract

[real moss]

When doing PE we are most of the time waiting the last 2 min at extract door

[tough badger]

It's not an issue itself but it can ruin a door or two before you're ready

[real moss]

That could actually be kinda fun

[pulsar grotto]

It was a randomized run, should have tried PE anyway

[tough badger]

Yeah R7C3 is still fairly well balanced even without overload

And remember overload stops a bunch of wave spawns

[real moss]

Well I would do overload AND go in the resource room. Can't do a non PE run

Numbers must align

Or I would have to quit just before extract. give team the win and not take it myself

[half hornet]

I love the final part of C3, but can't stand the stealth section and overload

[pulsar grotto]

My numbers are tarnished via random obj runs but oh well

[tough badger]

I can't accurately judge the exact difficulty of main only for R7C3 because I only did it once with people who are bad at shooting

[half hornet]

Overload is okay-ish , but that second overload terminal got some dogshit placements that cause team to scatter and ultimately get overwhelmed.
Also: SURPRISE BBC SQUAD punch punch punch

[tough badger]

Just hit 4head

[half hornet]

Ironically I noticed the pattern that the thing pubs seem to struggle with most is pushing through waves out of the rooms.

They get ambushed around corners and down they go.

[real moss]

You can have 2 hold the door to that zone

ez pz

[half hornet]

No problem with just retreating though.

[real moss]

bad bio

[tough badger]

Bad bio or don't know when to just hit sprint and go

[real moss]

either works fine

[real moss]

It gets faster and faster tho.

[tough badger]

However I happen to know these specific people are just not great shots because I play with them semi-regularly lol

And they managed to die on wave 3 of R5B1overload

[real moss]

Yeah....

[tough badger]

In their defense the game doesn't spawn 4 hybrids at once often

[real moss]

On that reactor it does pretty often

[tough badger]

Yep lmao

[pulsar grotto]

I got killed on R5B1 OL via 2 game crashes xd

[real moss]

It's funnier when you get the chargers

[tough badger]

BBC jumpscares are my favorite

[real moss]

That reactor is legit pretty good tho for a free codes reactor

But B1 man....

[tough badger]

It throws a lot at you

[real moss]

R5 do be hitting harder

[tough badger]

Too bad secondary ruins that pe

[real moss]

That's why it's good

[pulsar grotto]

I forgor what R5B1 main+sec even is

[tough badger]

Playing with my off-group that's not actually practiced has helped me keep the r5 nostalgia goggles off and appreciate how much the alt actually preserved it

[winter wharf]

Hsu and ferrying cells through inf fog to generators past blood doors

[tough badger]

It's definitely different but it's still awful in most of the same ways

[thick linden]

R6 this week ？

[pulsar grotto]

Riight

I only remember the levels that have given me trouble

[tough badger]

Yea R5B1sec is not hard it's just slow and annoying

[pulsar grotto]

(looking at you R5D1 secondary)

[tough badger]

Never forget

I both love and hate that R5D1 was left almost entirely untouched

[half hornet]

I should do main only sometimes, see how much levels improves for that.

[tough badger]

i think main is still padded but it's not that bad, without r5 spawn density

[pulsar grotto]

I must do all obj always! (Unless its randomizer)

[tough atlas]

I dont care about doing all objectives but some maps feel a bit empty without them

Others would be probably better without some sectors and have the sectors be reworked as another map entirely

R5A2, All R4 Bs, for example, would feel a bit empty without sectors

R5C2 IMHO could use trimming on extreme or main

[real moss]

Nah perfect level

[solemn wigeon]

A lot of r4 optionals are just bloat let's be real

[coarse berry]

when the R4C2 'pabulum' hits

[deft kiln]

R5c2 good trimming is giving cells for overload and secondary completion

[tough atlas]

Secondary gives a cell? I missed one then

[deft kiln]

Na it should have been the change

[tough atlas]

And Overload doesn't?

The Cell is behind the bulkhead

Ah

Yeah

[deft kiln]

Really simple change that makes the level way better

[tough atlas]

Yes I agree

Just add a cell to one of the zones directly connected to the reactor

since those only open if you start reactor anyway

[deft kiln]

Yeah I like that

Simple if you are paying attention

[amber skiff]

Oh thats a genius idea for a change

My old thought was to just make the reactor it's own level lmao

It's a great reactor all on it's own lol

[atomic escarp]

Prolly my 2nd favorite reactor

Wish it was it's own lvl

With more stuff to do

[deft kiln]

Gen cluster and special terminal and reactor all take a bit letting them feed into each other let’s you make hour -45 min levels which are the best ones and you can make them harder

[amber skiff]

True

I tend to prefer hour ish levels but long ones can be quite enjoyable

[livid heath]

Stretching to get more content

[still mica]

WDYM R4E1 has that kind of error alarm wtf

[real moss]

It's pretty chill, 3 tanks and you done

[still mica]

I think we killed five

The teenaged host couldn’t find the generator at the end and it took him like five minutes

[real moss]

People mostly wipe on the reactor.

Five tanks is still pretty gud, starts to get low on ammo tho

[still mica]

Yeah we had to do some bot shenanigans to get through it since the host had his mom tell him to go to bed

On wave 5/6

[real moss]

As long as code getter is doing his job

[winter wharf]

If you've got a good code searcher you should be fine

[still mica]

Ye he was sneaky

[meager nebula]

tonk

[livid heath]

thunk

[solemn wigeon]

Tbf those generator positions are pretty goofy compared to original r4e1

[still mica]

I just read the pinned

So is that why we see snatchers pre r7 in ALT://

The mwp shenanigans

[real moss]

yes

[solemn wigeon]

Which pinned

[prisma zodiac]

The hell, i got pinged from the short clips channel??

[solemn wigeon]

Lol + bozo

[prisma zodiac]

And theres nothing there

Ghostping

[still mica]

That was me

[solemn wigeon]

It was Parsley

[still mica]

I guess it got deleted

But the death% made me laugh

[still mica]

Sorry, the pinned post for gtfo lore.

[solemn wigeon]

Damn i don't have that channel 1sec

[still mica]

Yeah they hide them really well

[prisma zodiac]

Death% is based

Gotta grind it out more
(Also always a fun category for speedruns)

[solemn wigeon]

No i just hid it bc I'm not a fan of the channel

[still mica]

As long as you don’t hide the speed running channel

[solemn wigeon]

I despise the speedrunners :3

[deft kiln]

||Boo||

[still mica]

Trapcard.gif

You ||racist||

[deft kiln]

Correct opinion

[kind swan]

Speedrunners when they join a Newbie lfg for R1A1

[solemn wigeon]

Good

Speedrunners trying not to break the game as much as possible on r4c1 to avoid carrying datasphere:

[dry dagger]

For real?

[solemn wigeon]

[dry dagger]

Nvm. I see you're based.

[solemn wigeon]

Am I?

[simple topaz]

R5A3 whats the order for opertion?

overload, secondary, main?

[pliant pasture]

yee

[simple topaz]

Thats what I thought

I will now proceed to gloat to my team mates

[pliant pasture]

what made you assume ovl before secondary?

[simple topaz]

simple. when we enter into the primary objective operations room

there is an ovl bulkhead area

and a key in the door without an alarm

OR atleast. Thats my thought process

@pliant pasture thanks for the help!

[winter wharf]

god help your soul when you play r4c3

[simple topaz]

I agree

I have completed it though

[winter wharf]

ah, nice

[deft kiln]

it isnt becasue of this is it mainly becuase sec makes an error and overload doesnt

[pliant pasture]

go to the casino, its your night

[livid heath]

[last gust]

but you get to skip the shadow alarm in secondary

[chrome rivet]

Best tools for R5D1?

[astral ferry]

triple burst sentry + bio
double burst + cfoam + bio

[half hornet]

Pretty much, yeah.

Maybe one sniper sentry for spice

Although... Mine-foam combo does come in handy for like 10 minutes when doing some alarms in but that's pretty much it, worthless for the rest of 50+ minutes you'll be spending there.

[narrow gulch]

youre much better off abusing the stupid funnels in that tile

[half hornet]

Yeah, you can do some very funny shit with the doors

Send them on a wild goose ride

[wide lion]

where r6

@quiet sky this man make lose us game.

he nvite and leave 2 times when we play on X scans on r5d2

[quiet sky]

bruh i joined cause there is available slot, and if u are scaning just have told me so i wont go in the game

[wide lion]

you ruined our game****

you invite

and leave

and you make invite more

[quiet sky]

it's just a game why u so mad

[wide lion]

you ruined our game

[quiet sky]

brub the 1st time i joined the guy said you guys doing a scan so i leave for u

[wide lion]

and you invite more

for what

you ruined our game

[quiet sky]

after that i already said if u done with the scan told me and he did

lol

so i joined back

[wide lion]

you ruined our game

[quiet sky]

nvm then

[olive shoal]

you ruined our game

feels like I’m watching 2 AIs argue ngl

[winter wharf]

2011 chatbot lookin ass

[twin dirge]

no R6 means I am still a virgin

[silent kettle]

stream duo pubs

[prisma zodiac]

you ruined our game

[winter wharf]

Oh god no

[livid heath]

Why?

@quiet sky is so precious

[still mica]

isnt it weird they gave the great grand mother in r8 big honkers

[atomic escarp]

[livid heath]

True

Its so honkers btw

[atomic escarp]

[twin dirge]

get down and jiggy with it

[atomic escarp]

[wide lion]

no.

where r 6

[livid heath]

Yes.

[cunning herald]

Why are the dead bodies in the tank room in r4d2 wearing green

(squid ga

[livid heath]

Cause squi-

[plush basin]

"GTFO is literally red light green light"

[atomic escarp]

red light

thats not ho-

[half hornet]

Probably some stock issue suit they're supposed to be wearing to differentiate them from other workers (provided project got that far before everyone died).

[nocturne flax]

After watching the trailer comparison, i dont remember the sandstorm ever happening

[prisma zodiac]

somebody told me it was removed in an R6 update

i know it certainly wasnt a thing post 1st time they updated A1 anymore

[nocturne flax]

I dont remember it been day 1

[balmy robin]

If my memory is correct, it was only present for the trailer

They must have added it for "dramatic effect"

[nocturne flax]

[half hornet]

Boooo, false advertisement

[nocturne flax]

cuz i dont remember it on the testing builds

[balmy robin]

But to be honest, being yeeted out of the complex was already quite the shock ^^

[nocturne flax]

hell na

suck on my toes (actually dont)

i want my sandstorm

darude

[half hornet]

Sandstorms are cool and creepy

It's like fog, but yellow

They should unironically do that while your ears are blasted with the wind

...pretty sure L4D2 did that with rainstorm in some levels

It's cool as fuck and increases panic greatly

[livid heath]

Monster legends reference?

Funni how I remember that name from 8 years ago playing that game on mobile

[tough badger]

it's actually a darude sandstorm reference

[livid heath]

Yeah

But a monster from that game i also remember

[wide lion]

where r6

[olive shoal]

you ruined our game

[winter wharf]

that sure is a lot of asking for someone who will play the levels once and then never again

was kinda peaceful, actually

[livid heath]

The time when GTFO was peaceful

[kind swan]

[deft kiln]

Well gtfo doomers win again

[indigo flame]

meh

[velvet linden]

this is a huge W for us

[deft kiln]

Honestly it will be great for the feature of modding

Less constant updates

To fix mods that were working

[livid heath]

so based

[velvet linden]

(modding will die with r8 like the rest of the game)

[astral ferry]

what do I do now instead of gtfo??

[velvet linden]

Go outside

[plain saddle]

wdym you still have so many levels you need your first clear on

[late estuary]

Yeah, the game may be complete, that doesnt mean I've even come close to completing it

[half hornet]

Elden Ring... Armored core... Baldurs gate... Uh... Space marine 2 coming some time soon.

[kind swan]

GTFO²

[half hornet]

Am I the only one who feels utterly disappointed by cyber heist concept

[velvet linden]

payday 4

[half hornet]

This gives me Turtle Rock vibes.

[clear pasture]

Wow this is the first time I’ve been disappointed by 10 chambers dev team

[half hornet]

"The people who made Left 4 Dead..."
miserably fails to reinvent the wheel that THEY made

I know it's too early for this, because we don't even have alpha gameplay yet. Just the vibe I'm getting.

They can't beat payday 3 at their own game, that's for sure. So they have to go the other route, right?

[velvet linden]

i hope they bring back the rundown system for cyberheist

[half hornet]

Double down on stealth mechanic. Being noticed by a cyborg security guard is an instant death as he blasts you with a shotgun.

Probably lots of hacking mini games

Terminal might make a comeback

Minimal action, all the strategy

Granted I had never played payday in my life.

I think I've tried it like once during a free weekend or something.

Basically left 4 dead with cops instead of zombies.

I saw the level up / unlock system, predicted the 500 hours needed to unlock it all and just went "No, I dont need this".

[west crow]

you don't need 500 hours to unlock everything

but there is a ton of content to play

don't think these are the words to use, but left for dead would be a horde shooter while payday is an arcade shooter

nobody really likes stealth instant fails, that's why they're advertising it as a big feature of payday 3

[nocturne flax]

No perk decks

[velvet linden]

but does payday 3 have rundowns

[nocturne flax]

😭

I wish for limited timed content

So then theyll regret doing it

And adding them again

[half hornet]

I'm surprised anyone still tries to do this.

[west crow]

:\\////\/.\//\\alt heist crimetime 6

[velvet linden]

this is gonna be so epic

it really feels like im cyber

[half hornet]

Have you ever posted a single serious statement in your entire life

(curious)

[olive shoal]

he just did?

hello?

[half hornet]

actually nvm, I've seen it before

[velvet linden]

cant answer rn im taking a fat shit

[kind swan]

I'm goin cyber

[olive shoal]

the look on your face is gonna be so epic when pdw revolver isnt an available loadout in cyberheist

[velvet linden]

cyberdw and cybervolver are gonna go so crazy

[half hornet]

Maybe we're wrong. Maybe it will be an instant classic.

maybe

Still would love to see some gameplay or at least concept art

I'm a sucker for strong aesthetics

[velvet linden]

they're still working out how to get markiplier to play it

[half hornet]

chuckles

[coarse berry]

I am too

[half hornet]

The man's too busy with his indie movie career

[velvet linden]

then thats why there's nothing on it yet

they're waiting for him to finish

[kind swan]

Really like giving me dirt for using that loadout huh

[olive shoal]

should’ve ran double revo

[winter wharf]

What's the point of pdw anyway

[kind swan]

Full auto main/thermal

Thermal ads swap to revolver shot at further ranges with low visibility light

[feral token]

The thermal sight let’s you avoid having to run a bio on shadow levels 🤓

[kind swan]

Even without the thermal.

PDW is still a good full auto main

[winter wharf]

But what if you could deal with shadows without the use of thermals or bio

That would be cool

[kind swan]

Hel revo I know is good but I used to run it religiously and I'd prefer not to go back

[feral token]

You know what would be really cool

Some sort of tool that let you traverse fog easier

[winter wharf]

Duo r4e1

[feral token]

Some sort of mapping tool

[half hornet]

Brainless hip fire spread, fires forever, reloads In microseconds...

[kind swan]

I can deal with shadows without thermals if that's your point.

[half hornet]

The gun with 0 maintenance or consideration

[velvet linden]

but how do you see them

[kind swan]

Flashlight/hearing/(or a dorito above their head if someone uses bio)

[winter wharf]

You need to use beyerdynamic studio monitoring headphones to hear them

[kind swan]

I sometimes run Carbine/Revo as well

Burst rifle/revo if I want a main with more range efficacy

[velvet linden]

you cant see shadows with a flashlight

their invisible

[feral token]

Their invisible what?

[velvet linden]

bodies