gtfo-spoiler-chat

[rotund fractal]

R6 is removed right now?? Don't remember from the run downs we still have

[tough badger]

We'll probably also have r6 back in like... August

[rotund fractal]

Ahh, ok

[tough badger]

It's the last old one remaining

[rotund fractal]

It's not that old though

It wa awesome going outside

[deft kiln]

It is man

[tough badger]

It's only a year and a half old :^)

[real moss]

R7E1 where you just revisit R6B1

but it's NIGHT 🤯

[twin dirge]

night mode in GTFO

real

[livid heath]

Romantic mode GTFO

[prisma zodiac]

@ivory sundial how is dmr one of the worst stat wise :>

[ivory sundial]

I think this has to be the 3rd time we've had this convo

[prisma zodiac]

and i repeat the question cuz theres no base for it

the one stat dmr is bad in is dmg/refill and thus efficiency

It trades that for above average to top:

• ttk
• dmg/mag
• range
• shooter killing

[ivory sundial]

sight gets blurry as you go down in texture

[deft kiln]

Massive counter offensive time

[ivory sundial]

one of the lowest sight texture size out of all the weapons

[prisma zodiac]

thats not a stat tho

but yea honestly

frick the sight

[ivory sundial]

only higher than pistols and other guns that literally a dot

[prisma zodiac]

its so abyssmal

[ivory sundial]

someone in 10cc has the infinite wisdom of making sight texture scalable

and made DMR sight texture smaller than even HEL GUN

hel gun's sight twice as small but texture size is twice as big

Unforgivable to be honest

[last gust]

wdym, white dot ironsights are nimble and unobtrusive

easy to move in and out of ads

[deft kiln]

Time has history with this scope

A bad one

[ivory sundial]

I said that DMR texture size is only higher than pistols and revo

[last gust]

as opposed to some elaborate scope gumming up your view as you transition in/out of ads

[ivory sundial]

never said they were bad

[last gust]

oh

I thought you meant "only better than"

[ivory sundial]

was a major pain in the ass to restore

[deft kiln]

LOL

[ivory sundial]

better as in texture size

[deft kiln]

why is it a texture

Why is it a texture internal screaming

[ivory sundial]

why is it a SCALEBLE texture?

[deft kiln]

Lol

[ivory sundial]

you can actually make the texture to ignore the texture limit of the game and just have it at full like the door numbers

[deft kiln]

Yeah I am glad the door numbers don’t change

[tough atlas]

The time I said that I got a lot of "It'S tHe OnLy BaD tHiNg It HaS!"

Because I proposed giving it a more normal, decent sight

[half hornet]

Oh yeah, giving DMR the rifle scope would immediately sell even me over

[tough atlas]

And for normal decent I just mean make it a dot at the center and that's it

[last gust]

I'd take the sight on dmr over the light on revolver (special) anyday

[half hornet]

Aiming that thing was paaaaain

[last gust]

mentioned because that's probably the main example of an arguably aesthetic drawback of an otherwise strong gun just putting me off it entirely

on the other hand I tolerated the sight on dmr for a long time

dmr's bigger issue is that hel revo exists

[tough atlas]

That's more of a most main weapons issue than a dmr one tbh

Albeit Carbine is broken too and its use doesn't overlap with hel rev

[last gust]

sure, but for dmr it's especially accute

[livid heath]

hey @half hornet

any info on OST's?

saw a OST for Obsolete Survival

[half hornet]

The what? Lacking context here

[livid heath]

a battle (survival/hidden) OST when fighting

[livid heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbiK8Sk76oo

saw it poped up

[nocturne flax]

Simons vidklunk talent its been wasted

and its extremely sad

we cannot pick our combat music

literally simon sat down did 2 bangers then they jus added this new one

wich its just a weird mix of ingame sounds and a drum

🤮

[livid heath]

y talkin bout this one?

i mean

the only one i like rn is R7-survival

[nocturne flax]

no

[livid heath]

which one

[half hornet]

I play without music so out of the loop on this one

For what it's worth they all sound generic and repetitive to me

[livid heath]

lemme get a whiff

[livid heath]

[nocturne flax]

I heard this one before (most of the unused ost's) this cool

never in game sadly

[livid heath]

yeah

[nocturne flax]

sounds either like a last man standing ost until you pick someone up or extraction sequence

[livid heath]

sadly i cannot hear the EPIC music

[half hornet]

On the other side of spectrum YouTube recommended new Dark Tide track to me and it was a banger.

Why can't we have things like that.

[nocturne flax]

the music system its kinda bugged in this game i think

hidden music kinda bugged a little

[livid heath]

yea

hidden-regular has been shite all this time

[bold widget]

does anyone have the link to the roadmap

[deft kiln]

Just cntk f for pizza

[west crow]

Jish

[deft kiln]

Beep

[livid heath]

Jish

[deft kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/daredevil-daredevil-dog-tough-dog-red-mask-dog-gif-23418245

[chrome rivet]

What do you guys think is the hardest error alarm in the game?

I personally think that while the first error alarm in R5E1 is pretty difficult, the R2E1 error is unrivaled.

[real moss]

Probably R2E1 error tbh.

[atomic escarp]

the pablo chasing you around error 🤡

[real moss]

Lucky for you, you clowned yourself

[atomic escarp]

i did r2e1 with bots how does that make you feel

being replaced

[real moss]

I have water readily available. How does that make you feel?

[livid heath]

R5E1 error

@deft kiln cell skip enthusiast unite

[tough badger]

R6D4 extraction error as client :^)

[real moss]

pretty chill one

[tough badger]

It'd be chill if the enemies weren't teleporting for me at the time

[real moss]

you know what the devs say: it's a feature!

[tough badger]

Honestly I'd accept that for that level only

[livid heath]

Enemies spawns right on top of you

Frank spawns in front of u

What is this gmod?

If so can i pls press Z

[tough badger]

The actual hardest error in terms of expected player skill might be R5B1 on release tbh, since A-tier at the time just did not prepare new players for that. It was pretty easy for anyone experienced, so I don't think it'll ever clown anyone that hard again, but watching new streamers hit that error door was Content™️

[livid heath]

And get the red admin deagle

[livid heath]

Gotta b R5B3

Cause i dont remember wth im doing

So just get caught up by naruto enjoyers

[tough badger]

That fog dive definitely also fucked new players up
I remember a lot of streamers saying "maybe B3 will be easier" and then the screaming began

[livid heath]

Yep

[tough badger]

Didn't help that the fog in B3 actually sucks to see in

[livid heath]

B3 is good cause secondary

[tough badger]

Up through the m5 and the secondary are good
The forward extraction was always a bit miserable

Hardest error in terms of wave composition is probably just r6d3 extraction timer? Since it's just a surge if you actually had to engage it it would be hard. But you don't so :^)

R5E1 cell skip is probably a solid choice for the error section that actually takes the most skill to clear in practice

It's not an error but I think r5d2 far code goes pretty hard

[livid heath]

I mean

Hardest alarm rn gotta be the gauntlet cluster in R4D2

And to make it funni

[tough badger]

Really? My group must be too used to that shit, I thought it was pretty reasonable. Unless you let the fog consume the room, then it probably sucks.

[livid heath]

Add up to both secondary and overload at the sam time

[tough badger]

You can pass the class 8 cluster before fog gets up to ground level pretty easily

Then you only need foggies in the trenches and you can see the chargers

Were you going for the fog turbine?

[livid heath]

Not saying that its hard to see

No

Im saying its hard to kite them

[atomic escarp]

ok thats just too far this wont go without consequences

[tough badger]

Just shoot them

[livid heath]

Due to small cramped spaces and hot box

[tough badger]

It shouldn't be a hotbox yet unless you're experiencing a speed issue

[livid heath]

Nah

[tough badger]

I think going fast enough is harder than the individual alarms tbh

[livid heath]

Speed demon at its best right here

Oh hey @coarse berry

[coarse berry]

r2e1 error IMO, especially if you're flying blind on the level

jumpscare

[livid heath]

When new vid

[tough badger]

Okay the r2e1 error blind is definitely bad

[livid heath]

Yeah

[coarse berry]

soon

[livid heath]

Good to hear

[coarse berry]

the combination of "Where the fuck are we going" and the chase getting worse and worse makes for a great experience though

[tough badger]

Great, but inevitably fairly short lol

I think passing the first surge on a blind run would be incredibly hard

[coarse berry]

yeah I remember that

"What's a surge alarm?"

pulls lever

"oh."

[livid heath]

Yo guys whats a surge

Instantly get swarmed by 3 waves

[tough badger]

oh i meant the first surge during the error
but being blind on surges in general is definitely funny

then you pass the first one, think you have surges on lock, and the second goes ahead and spawns 4 hybrids

[coarse berry]

it was my first, I started playing back in like oct and had never see one before haha

[real moss]

first during error is Def the hardest one on the level

[tough badger]

for obvious reasons they do not use surge alarms often

r2e1 might actually have around half the surge alarms in the game

[real moss]

Nah R4 has just as many

R4C2, R4D2, R4E1

that's at least 5

[tough badger]

true, i forgot r4c2 had so many because that level left no impression on me at all

[real moss]

R2E1 is 5 as well

then you got the R5 ones

R6D4

R6D3 technically as well

[tough badger]

r5c2 main having two surges is

[real moss]

R7 has ..... none ?

[livid heath]

R5C2 OG was a nightmare

[tough badger]

my group took two months (full of scheduling issues, granted) to clear that pe

though the actual issue was mom at the end of the reactor, we weren't very good at dealing with those at the time

[chrome rivet]

Wait I just got a flashback to R7B3 PE. May not be the hardest error but deserves a honorable mention

[livid heath]

Best experience

[tough badger]

the combined overload + main error definitely deserves mention

[livid heath]

For late Game mental break downs

[chrome rivet]

I remeber struggeling with that error for a long ass time

Ya know until I got gud

[tough badger]

i think any time you have chargers in dark and/or fog it's a recipe for high difficulty

[livid heath]

By far one of the hardest B tiers ive seen

[tough badger]

turns out not being able to see enemies is hard

[chrome rivet]

Oh easily

[livid heath]

Sitting on par with R5B3

[atomic escarp]

well if you are deaf thats a whole story

if not then ears are underrated

[livid heath]

Hearing team mates screaming over gam audio is amazing

[chrome rivet]

But just nothing beats the shit show that is R2E1 error

[livid heath]

I mean

[atomic escarp]

im glad i dont have to deal with that with bots

[livid heath]

I still is fine

Just bonk and boom stick when have to

[atomic escarp]

prolly the hardest thing ive done

[chrome rivet]

R2E1 as a whole isn't that bad, but that ending is definity top 5 hardest single thing you have to do in this game

[tough badger]

putting a surge during a fast error is just rude tbh

[chrome rivet]

facts

[atomic escarp]

well it depends on the situation i think its hard cuz u had to go through fog zone, forward spawns, the last room with the pit of death surge there sure is not fun

[tough badger]

that ironically actually reminds me of how hard they buffed the r5a3 main bulkhead alarm

[atomic escarp]

also you on a timer else you run out of ammo

[tough badger]

r5a3 main bulkhead went from free permafoam to basically impossible to meaningfully prep doors at all with the secondary error active

which is based tbh

[atomic escarp]

what perma foam

just to get password?

[tough badger]

for the class 5 diminished alarm

[atomic escarp]

let me look it up cuz i barely remember that

[tough badger]

in og r5 it was in a narrow room with the doors very close to the alarm door, now the alarm area is a long 2 rooms separated by a border, with 3 doors at the end 2 rooms away. even if you foam them the error enemies will basically be through already by the time you start the alarm now

[atomic escarp]

oh the main door i see

the error is not that bad 3 enemies every 50 sec is easy to deal with and the class 5 itself isnt that bad either

[tough badger]

yeah it's very A-tier difficulty, you just have to actually interact with it now

i think it's very good for A levels to force you to interact with gameplay mechanics, so that later levels that do the same thing feel fairer

I'm invested in A-tier level design because I think people who are bad at the game still deserve content that doesn't suck

[kind swan]

[livid heath]

Eyy

Solace is alive

And also beepo is here

Now i can finally go bed

[tough atlas]

I'd say hardest B-tier is R5B1PE unless we consider checkpointless runs

R5B3 feels super fine if you know where to go and how to fight a tank

R4B's are alle Okay imho

R7B3 is perhaps the only contender if we dont consider the checkpoint

[tough atlas]

Ah yes I used to read that manga

[hard cape]

hello guys I have a question: Can I kill a charger scout with hell rifle from behind?

[tough badger]

yes

[atomic escarp]

checkpointless

[kind swan]

It's because R6/R7 B tiers have checkpoints.

Possibly R8's will too

Saying just going through those levels without using checkpoints

[atomic escarp]

oh i see

flew over my head

and im pretty tall

[tough badger]

99.999% yes. I'd be extremely surprised if they stopped using them.

[real moss]

If they still can't fix them(which is very likely) I would be very surprised if they use them

[tough badger]

nah even if they don't I'd expect them to be there. just maybe used a bit more carefully around carry items :^)

[real moss]

Igh that means the only reactor in R8 will be E tier as they have no checkpoints

[tough badger]

TRUE

though we're getting r6d3 back and that did fine with them afaik

other than the whole logs thing which i think is already fixed...? could be wrong on that

[real moss]

Nah it become a huge cheese fest

[real moss]

fixed only for uplinks

not for reactor, as it was fixed during R6

[tough badger]

i mean it didn't break the game on a fundamental level, you just got to ignore the hunts
that's better than most checkpoint issues lol

[real moss]

and R6D3 was never fixed

[real moss]

ignoring the hunts. breaks a reactor quite fundamentally

[tough badger]

breaks the objective, but you can still play the game

[real moss]

It's no coincidence R7E1 is the only reactor in R7. They KNOW

[tough badger]

i wouldn't be surprised if that was why, at least

easiest way to fix a problem is pretend it doesn't exist

[real moss]

Yep

[tough badger]

though that still wouldn't mean they can't put a reactor outside E-tier, there's always the option of just designing a level where you have to complete whatever objective the reactor is before you get access to one

[real moss]

Or make a R1C1/R6D1 type of reactor

[last gust]

not sure where you'd fit a second reactor in r7 anyway

10cc doesn't seem to like the idea of cramming optionals into their story levels

doesn't fit in d2 or c3, maybe c2 overload could've been one I guess

or a baby reactor a la r4b1ex in one of the b levels

[tough badger]

yeah i think the checkpoint issue isn't really the whole story, they've also just... done most of what they can do right now with the objective type already, and with the alts we've gained access to almost all of the good ones now

[real moss]

nah my point is we would have had a whole other level if reactors weren't f'd by checkpoints

[tough badger]

a bit conspiratorial

[last gust]

lol 10cc isn't shipping more than 10 levels in a rundown

maybe they'll go over the line for r8 I guess

[tough badger]

more than 10 would be... a lot
if they're gonna do it it'd be with r8, both 'cuz they've had the time and because long-time players have had a functional content drought

[real moss]

All we know is 3 A's

[tough badger]

I'm very happy about 3 As

[real moss]

me too. as long as they gud

And at least 2 B's

forgot those

[tough badger]

i think between the buffed r3 As and r5A2/A3 they've got a decent grasp on how to make a good A level
also r6 and r7 A1s were fine, they were just also A1s

r7 brought back a more extensive B-tier that was at least okay overall, and if there's one respect 10chambers has been improving at imo it's level design (though Es are still kind of all over the place)

[daring pilot]

4

[tough badger]

Looks like a 1 and a 2 to me tbh
Image is incomplete and no proper roadmap update in forever tho

[granite lagoon]

So what’s cell skip?

[narrow gulch]

its taking the first cell during the first error on r5e1 through to the second gen to skip half the level cuz mom zone is always unlocked

[tough badger]

yea r5e1 doesn't actually force you to turn the first error alarm off

[late bloom]

r7b2 overload

[last gust]

let's make the long boring level even longer, yay

probably a better option is to rework secondary objective into shadow reactor

in which case I could actually see people being a bit excited for r7b2 for a change

[wary olive]

what even was the extreme for r7b2

uplink?

[deft kiln]

GATHER

osip

[twin dirge]

where nomand pp

[wary olive]

oh shit i dont remember that map at all

[last gust]

r7b2 is the definition of a level that exists I guess

[last gust]

as mentioned above it's osips, but shadows show up and I believe there are also some rooms full of giants/chickens

the entryway and first scan with shadows emerging from fog are kinda neat, if they opened up into a dig site reactor with an emphasis on shadows I think it could be pretty cool

[deft kiln]

r7d1 should have been a reactor

correpted reactor if you will

[errant vigil]

Every level in R7 had something new besides B2

A1 too actually

[wary olive]

what about c2

[errant vigil]

Ventilation sequences

[wary olive]

oh those vent scans

[narrow gulch]

scans on destination are new too if you dont count the "room" scan in r6

[wary olive]

am i trippin or did only the 1st vent sequence cause fog to rise

[errant vigil]

1st and 3rd do

[wary olive]

oh that one was the purple

[errant vigil]

2nd has delayed vent because you're meant to do Overload before returning to Cluster

[atomic escarp]

is my pc going jumbo nuts considered a reactor

[last gust]

r7c2 first vent scan is still perfection

I love that thing so much

[narrow gulch]

c2 is a pretty cool level

yet I still never feel like playing it

[deft kiln]

c2 is best level

hands down

[deft kiln]

na you are just wrong. you like gtfo junk food

[errant vigil]

What checkpoints do to a level

Especially carry items

[last gust]

r7c2 pubs seem pretty foul

[narrow gulch]

youre not wrong tbh

im not really much for replaying levels in the first place tho

I dont have more than 10 clears on anything I think

[deft kiln]

i like the part where everyone kills eachother

to get rid of fog

[last gust]

like I love the level, but incompetents make some disgusting things happen in r7c2

fog cheese being but one of said things

[narrow gulch]

fog cheese?

[wary olive]

if you checkpoint fog lowers with only 1 cell

[narrow gulch]

figured that was it

[last gust]

thing where gen 5 after checkpoint makes fog go down for overload

[narrow gulch]

still dont know if thats intended or not so lol

[errant vigil]

it's not

[wary olive]

people wanting to fog cheese that level was better than people trying to reactor cheese r6d3 though that made me want to alt f4

[errant vigil]

if you don't Checkpoint the level the fog stays up until both cells are in the cluster

[atomic escarp]

What happened with r6d3

[royal lichen]

codes didnt reset

so after cp u didnt need to open zones to get codes or keys for other doors etc

[wary olive]

also made the fog not as high for the 5th code

but most of the time if they wanted to cheese reactor it was going to be high regardless

[atomic escarp]

Wouldnt they need the resources tho?

[deft kiln]

Couldn’t they deactivate the surge at the end

[wary olive]

thats only if you did main first

[pliant pasture]

how do they even cheese that reactor?

[atomic escarp]

Do it get code 5 then die cp use codes dont Brother with the zones and voila

Really stupid if you ask me

[deft kiln]

Codes didn’t change between checkpoints

They fixed this at the start of r7 but haven’t had a level that could use the method

[pliant pasture]

gotcha

[deft kiln]

Maybe reactors still broken but terminal password was fixed

Which you can see for yourself in a single level r7c3

[dry dagger]

Damn just realized that they removed the additional alarm doors for the cell hunt in R5D2.

[hexed vapor]

?

[deft kiln]

A class 6 before the class 10 mixed

Best change in r5

[hexed vapor]

Oh, I read cell hunt as code hunt.

Yeah, they did remove a fair bit.

[deft kiln]

Making the level more playable so nice that they kept the d2 soft lock for authenticity

[atomic escarp]

D2 softlock?

[narrow gulch]

huh?

[deft kiln]

#1121172081560788992 message

[narrow gulch]

OH that one

[deft kiln]

if you stand in this spot in the deep fog

[narrow gulch]

fsr I didnt categorize that as a softlock in my head

[deft kiln]

it is

you cant do the team scan

[atomic escarp]

Oh that, i got stuck on it recently, Never been more frustrated

[deft kiln]

it is the r7d1 softlock all over again

[atomic escarp]

Similar spot Somewhere ?

[deft kiln]

na you could plug the baby in the wrong hole

[atomic escarp]

Oh thats a big yikes

[wary olive]

theres another spot that you can get stuck on another tile idk how to describe it

its like the first tile in r6b1 with the two stairs leading up with catwalks on the side

[atomic escarp]

Where u get stuck in there?

[deft kiln]

r7c1 the pipes

[wary olive]

if u go next to the pipes u can get stuck

[deft kiln]

no way

that is such a good one

[narrow gulch]

game has so many cool "features" 😃

[wary olive]

yeah that one is goofy

[atomic escarp]

Lot more "features" than i thought

[dry dagger]

Yeah. Even though it's a direct nerf and I generally prefer the levels be preserved, the extra class VI just drags the beginning of the level on in getting to the reactor imo. We have class 10 tho.

[fair fern]

guys

is there shadow in alt r5c1?

[real moss]

Secondary

[fair fern]

thanks

[real moss]

👍

[tough atlas]

They've already answered you but to elaborate even further

You could also funnel them through the ladder at the B room of the first zone

Which also made the waves MUCH MUCH easier

Skipping codes by abusing the cp didnt really help much if you wanted to do PE since the last zone needs a key anyway and that's where the bulk key was

[wary olive]

holding front isnt cheese lol

[tough atlas]

You'd open most zones for res anyway

[tough atlas]

I've a wide definition of cheese and "abusing" the pathing through the ladder is a bit cheesy

It's just not the same as abusing you knowing the codes beforehand

[real moss]

nah Def not. I saw groups skipping codes, then Bee line to key cause they knew where it was etc etc

[tough atlas]

Ah well I guess if you also did the punny to delete the error at the end of the reactor then yeah you'd have all the time in the world

I was always under the assumption that you were on a tight timing after putting last code in

[real moss]

15 min

you only need 5 to 10 to finish sec

[tough atlas]

ah always believe it to be much less

we zoom zoomed through sec under the assumption that we had 10mins

[deft kiln]

@viral kayak

You can do it here to

[deft kiln]

Very good load out

If you place the sentry on the door maybe it helps

Then do the farthest scan first

[viral kayak]

i tried to

[deft kiln]

Oof

[viral kayak]

but they are too many of them

when i need to reload

💀

[deft kiln]

Yeah I get that

Maybe just take one bot

[viral kayak]

i once managed to almost did it

but shooters got me

[deft kiln]

Unfo

Well just go slow you should have enough time to finish the entire scan before like 12 sleepers hit you

[viral kayak]

this is like my 5nd try 💀

[deft kiln]

But gl I need to sleep

[viral kayak]

on the FIRST scan

[deft kiln]

Tbh I don’t expect less

[real moss]

At this point. it's down to just shooting better and doing scans faster

[deft kiln]

This scan isn’t the easiest for true solo and you don’t have moment background or game knowledge

You will get it down in the next dozen

Gl gl I go to sleep now

[real moss]

Just 10 more tries. then another 20 on the 2nd alarm

you'll do good

[real moss]

Now imagine trying to solo an E tier level 😅😂

[plush basin]

R1B2 can't be too difficult to solo right?

[real moss]

Hmmmm harder than R1A1 and R1B1 for sure

also that missions gimmick 🤮

[plush basin]

I just think the alarms in A1 are kinda hard given how close the spawns are

but B2 has quite big rooms

but it might have more room dividers than I'm accounting for

[real moss]

Yeah alarm wise meaby.

[prisma zodiac]

20? Lol

Hes not gonna get past 2nd alarm. Its more than 3 times harder unless you know how to prep well

[real moss]

shhhh

[viral kayak]

💀💀💀

[tough atlas]

If you rely on finding a mine and using a foam launcher it ain't that hard

but yes it's way harder than the first one

[wide lion]

what is it?

[tough atlas]

The least modded player in China

[half hornet]

Big kek

[wide lion]

= noob?

[half hornet]

No, more like cheater.

He will win the game for you

Just not... You know...

[tough atlas]

Pink name hammer

Quick a lore-name for it

"The Chapman Special"

[wide lion]

my new avatar)

[velvet linden]

Looks great also no one here cares

[wary olive]

anyone wanna see my new avatar)

[deft kiln]

pl.s

[atomic escarp]

pls do share

[wary olive]

my new avatar)

[deft kiln]

i thought that was the old one D:

[wary olive]

it is...

[deft kiln]

LIER

[wary olive]

(

[fallow wasp]

What's R5D1 Sec again?

[atomic escarp]

deactivate filtration system

shadow zones have cocoons, you will have to fight pmom

[fallow wasp]

dubious

[granite lagoon]

How do y’all clear R4D2 PE? Open overload, do secondary then clear the tank at the end of Main, then go back to overload for the cargo?

[narrow gulch]

that is the safe method ye

[granite lagoon]

Thanks. We failed while dealing with the shadow error alarm but I think it’s more likely due to our group being separated

[half hornet]

Can confirm, that is the primary method.
There is a choice that your squad can make aether or not you want to open an optional surge alarm door and acquire fog turbine for safer travels during the ending, but most people seem to just skip that and save time while fog rises to clear the main route ASAP.

There is also an optional supply room out there, but I think literally no one ever opened that. Not in a successful expedition anyway.

[granite lagoon]

Is it possible to clear all that and main fast enough to not have fog when going back for the cargo? Last 2 times I’ve done this map fog always gets to us after clearing that final cluster alarm

[coarse berry]

i think you can but you have to be fast

it's a lot safer to just get the turbine

[half hornet]

My squad did it infected I think.

You just take the L and breathe the fumes.

You can fill yourself with Medkits to give yourself a quick boost before picking up cargo.

You just need to survive long enough for shadows to pile up behind you and stop spawning ahead.

From the on they can't really catch up to you, so you just marsh on straight to extraction.

Do mind that extraction will activate another error on top, so you will have to actually fight for it.

[stray jolt]

please don'

[fallow wasp]

You can just leave the scan room for R5C2 OV right?

[stray jolt]

t answer scout jesus

i'

m

joking

[fallow wasp]

Just kinda wait out the enemies and then do the scan afterwards?

[winter wharf]

No, because you're not supposed to be lame

[narrow gulch]

is there even smth attached to the scan anymore

idk what they did to it after the nerf

[twin dirge]

the scans attract my mom

[stray jolt]

i'll be waiting

[coarse berry]

isn't it the room scan? Do they stop coming?

[fallow wasp]

I've heard they only spawn a set amount

[narrow gulch]

it is

[twin dirge]

I have come

[narrow gulch]

but there is generally something attached to the room scan itself as well

it used to be tanks

[coarse berry]

there is at least 1 tank

[stray jolt]

1 tank and 1 mom at end

set amount of enemies even if you finish up the scan early

[high vortex]

The third method is to pick up the hisec at the beginning, then do secondary, then do main with the hisec with you after

[half hornet]

Only if you like suffering.

[eternal dragon]

I like surfing

If that counts

[eternal dragon]

Love your pfp

[high vortex]

Thanks yours is FIRE

[eternal dragon]

Name is kinda cringe tho

[high vortex]

Yeah I know 😦

Blade is a bit edgy

Better? @eternal dragon

[eternal dragon]

Much better!

[high vortex]

I feel six feet tall already!

[winter wharf]

#gtfo-chat message the darkseid omega beams in question

that tongue hit me

did it go round the left? probably, though the visual was uh, yeah

[ruby void]

Me trying to solo R1C1 experience without bot

[half hornet]

Duh

[pliant pasture]

@daring pilot where do you think they will add snatchers to R6? also, where should they?

[daring pilot]

Hmmmm

[real moss]

R6D4 ending

[half hornet]

I vote R6B1, the outpost bit.
Even more so that one of the logs mentions people getting literally snatched. Also will provide a unique threat on the way back to extraction.

[daring pilot]

My new enemy predictions for R6:
B1: maybe a shocker, prob not tho.
B2. Hybrids on the final blood door
C1: there better be snatchers for the Tscan, and shockers in Destination would be cool.
C2: would like an underlying charger theme in alarms and active areas, and more enemy variety on the S1 in EX
C3: fix the damn tanks. Also snatchers in waves like R5B4
D1: hoping for chargers and Charger variants to appear in the reactor sequence, and shockers in the boss battle
D2: buff flyer alarm plz
D3: add shockers to the flyer bridge alarm for 4th code
D4. Change mom to pMom, make initial error only flyers with chance of shocker

Kinda turned into my hopes/changes i would make

[tough badger]

R6CX, potentially both objectives

[daring pilot]

Oh fuck i forgot about ext

Uhhh

[tough badger]

DX could use a little love in the lead up to the uplink

[daring pilot]

BX: honestly very few changes, except cut out some fluff

[tough badger]

BX probably only needs to be shorter yea

Otherwise it had good variety for a B

[daring pilot]

Yeah it was way too long

Honestly did not need to be half that long

[tough badger]

Cut out the key cards, basically lol

[daring pilot]

CX: maybe a sleeping snatcher would be cool in a stealth zone, they cool :3
DX: add big chargers thanks. Also a tank every 120 seconds would be cool in uplinks

@pliant pasture i finished

Also put a scout in A1 thx

[tough badger]

Do they revert the buffed waves that compensated for double meatball damage being fixed to make up for that tank

[daring pilot]

Nah :3

[tough badger]

Cuz post-patch those were spawning a lot of shit

lmao just free tank in mostly narrow corridors

I'm down, sounds evil

Chargers definitely need to be somewhere in r6 other than just D2 and D4

[daring pilot]

Yeah I’m working on doing that in my modded rundown, fighting a tank in there is evil XD

[daring pilot]

I’d love them in C1, C2, D1

[tough badger]

Wait, better idea than a tank every 2 minutes during the tower

[daring pilot]

They absolutely deserve to be in D1

[tough badger]

Every uplink spawns a tank when started

[daring pilot]

Snatxher

[tough badger]

[daring pilot]

Every failed code spawns a pablo

[deft kiln]

Pablo error wave that can spawn forward

[daring pilot]

:D

[tough badger]

I'm really looking forward to r6 alt tho, some great levels even if they remain easy

[daring pilot]

R6 levels are nice

[deft kiln]

Tbh r6 levels aren’t that easy compared to alt r1-3

R4 and r5 are different beasts

[tough badger]

PEs in general have remained pretty strong

[real moss]

R6D3PE was solid. R6C3PE too ez

[daring pilot]

Yeah

Throw snatchers into the mix

[deft kiln]

They only have 10 wave populations left

[tough badger]

I'd love to see what a D-tier PE of similar format looks like
Also I don't want a harder version of that on refinery, fuck refinery

[deft kiln]

What do you think is gonna happen

[daring pilot]

oh shit u right

[daring pilot]

howabout an E tier PE of that format

[deft kiln]

I can’t wait for important waves to get over ridden

[daring pilot]

:3

that is maybe a hint Nish

Josh

Fuck

[deft kiln]

LOL

[tough badger]

I want an E-tier PE in general, it's criminal we haven't had one yet

[daring pilot]

There’s a good reason for it

[deft kiln]

Na tbh e tier pes are kinda counter intuitivtive

[daring pilot]

Because it’d be ungodly hard, and E tiers do well with one concise goal

[tough badger]

[coarse berry]

we've had a secondary in E tier though

adding an ovl wouldn't be too much imo

[deft kiln]

Every r4 level had a secondary

And tbh the pacing of r4e1 is kinda awful

[tough badger]

R4E1sec is just an extra level in the middle of r4e1

[deft kiln]

Because of secondary

[winter wharf]

cool reactor at least

[deft kiln]

Yeah this secondary and main are two different levels

[winter wharf]

OR IT WAS UNTIL THEY REMOVED HALF THE DAMN SHADOW SCOUTS

[coarse berry]

i do find it ironic that sec makes 4e1 easier IMO

[deft kiln]

It is the best reactor

[daring pilot]

Yeah they haven’t done it since

[deft kiln]

This is the other issue with pe e tier levels

Resources are crazy

[daring pilot]

If they did make a PE E tier, it would have to be a concise PE level

[coarse berry]

alt r6 extendo-extended, r6e1 pe

just you wait

[tough badger]

PEs are at their best as a format in levels like r7c2 and c3, where they all act as either modifications or continuations of each other
Which would definitely be difficult to do well for an E

[daring pilot]

Yes, this

[deft kiln]

I think an overload that puts a timer on the e tier level then it starts a surge

Would be sick

[tough badger]

But God damnit I want them to try

[deft kiln]

Especially if the timer is tight

[coarse berry]

r7 did good with PEs IMO

r4's often felt like a drag

[daring pilot]

Has to be one whole level at the PE scale, it can’t be 3 different levels smacked together

[daring pilot]

Yes

R5-7 had good PE design

[deft kiln]

R7 and r6 is the best game design

[tough badger]

R4D2 was the only reasonably good pe

[coarse berry]

pabulum? i dont remember what number it was, 4c2? was absolutely awful

[daring pilot]

R6C3 PE was special for me

[deft kiln]

R5b1 has words for you

[daring pilot]

Overload added tank waves, secondary added heavy carries

[deft kiln]

And r5 c2

[daring pilot]

All within 30 mon

[daring pilot]

Ok R6-7

[tough badger]

Did r5b1pe Monday night for the first time since launch week and secondary is about as pointless and trudgy as I remember

[daring pilot]

and also maybe R5B2

D3 is close to really good

[deft kiln]

Overload is also a snooze

Just hard r1c1

The worst reactor

[coarse berry]

oh I remember r5b1 now ^

[daring pilot]

D3 extreme could’ve been better, Overload and main were fantastic

[tough badger]

Overload is at least reasonable, it exists for people who like a specific part of the gameplay
It's me, I like it

[coarse berry]

that reactor was straight up relaxing, take a break from the level for a shooting gallery

[daring pilot]

Nah man that reactor is hell for my team

[tough badger]

It's either chill vibes or fun panic

[daring pilot]

That reactor is either 0 or 100

[tough badger]

I was running double shotty so it was both

[daring pilot]

Either chill or fucking balls to the wall

[deft kiln]

It depends on your sniper player

Tbh

[daring pilot]

Ohhh rigjt

So R7C2

My favorite vanilla PE

WHEN IT DOESNT BUG OUT

[deft kiln]

R7c2 is maybe the best gtfo level

[tough badger]

R5B1 overload is, imo, positioned well to act as a hard gunplay and teamwork test

[deft kiln]

R7c3 is up there too

[daring pilot]

Nah R7D1 if it worked

[coarse berry]

me and a buddy thought we were being smart by not doing the gen scan and somehow glitched the matter wave and it just. wouldn't teleport us

thank fuck for that checkpoint

[tough badger]

l o l

[deft kiln]

Dude it is 7 codes

[coarse berry]

or that wouldve been a wasted two hours

[deft kiln]

It could be 4

With 50% less ammo

And be the same

[coarse berry]

guess they designed it to be longer because in the original it would've been a new players first reactor?

[daring pilot]

If R7D1 could pull consistent 60 fps and not throw 4 snatchers at us at once, it’d be golden

[coarse berry]

but now that there's 4 rundowns available prior there wasnt a need

[daring pilot]

6 actually

[coarse berry]

how does d1 run so badly

[daring pilot]

Oh ic

[tough badger]

Counterpoint: it can bait unprepared players into a false sense of security with waves 1-3 and that's funny

[daring pilot]

Modding server looked into it

[deft kiln]

Low spec gaming has the update that fixed it

[daring pilot]

Something ab truangles

[deft kiln]

It doesn’t do perfectly

[daring pilot]

Wait really

Is that a flow mod

[coarse berry]

triangles?

[daring pilot]

Yeah

[deft kiln]

Yeah time borrowed it

[daring pilot]

Too many tris

[deft kiln]

With permission

[daring pilot]

Fucking dope

[tough badger]

Did they not tri properly

Goddamn it 10cc

[deft kiln]

It also comes with something to lower textures below 1/4

[tough badger]

You just sent me back in time to 3d modeling class LOL

[daring pilot]

But anyway, R7C2

[deft kiln]

Yeah

[deft kiln]

The speedrun is gonna suck

[tough badger]

R7C2 is hands-down one of the best levels in the game
And one of the buggiest lol

[daring pilot]

Main is a cool objective stages into 3 independent wings. Secondary picks up where main left off and is a cool, albeit easy continuation of the scan. Overload integrates with the fucked up fog levels and creates a super tense time with chargers

[tough badger]

Overload is a fun exercise in sequencing

[daring pilot]

The main and PE can exist independently of each other without creating an annoying or bad level

[deft kiln]

I have one issue with r7c2

There shouldn’t be fog repellers in first zone of main

[daring pilot]

Such a golden design

[coarse berry]

i think thats a big part of why its liked so much too, the fact that the optionals tie into main

[daring pilot]

hmmm i think it’s fine

[coarse berry]

it's not just "go grab some stuff"

[deft kiln]

Ruins 3rd scan imo

[deft kiln]

Do you know the cool part of 3rd scan

[daring pilot]

I love fogs on 3rd scan

Yeah the R4E1 trick

Ohhhhh

Wait ur right

[deft kiln]

Yeah

I do think sometimes

[daring pilot]

Yeah it’d be cooler if you were forced to go down

[tough badger]

Imagine if you actually had to head down for that

[daring pilot]

I did with bots

[deft kiln]

It is how I cleared it the first time

And every other time hasn’t been as cool

[tough badger]

I think that would elevate that main objective to basically perfect

[daring pilot]

Maybe just seed less repelers

One stack lol

[deft kiln]

One stack is enough

You only need 2

Uses

Lol

[daring pilot]

Don’t you use them before that?

[deft kiln]

Na unless you are slow as duck

[daring pilot]

Huh

so me :3

That’s where an EMP enemy could be cool

Something that fucks up your fogs

[tough badger]

I've only really used them in overload before that

[pliant pasture]

right off the vine

[deft kiln]

Can’t believe dak is telling one of the GTFO CHEATERS to seed less

[kind swan]

many many cheating

[deft kiln]

Fun fact do you know boxes are fog repeller boxes

[daring pilot]

Wat

[deft kiln]

So if they spawn repellers they will always spawn repellers

[daring pilot]

ah

cool

[kind swan]

Not very fog diver of you

[deft kiln]

All item pick ups are like this unless build seeding gets changed

[daring pilot]

Now i wanna play R2D1 again

[deft kiln]

So in a2 pe run we need lock melters and box 13 is a lock melter box

[daring pilot]

I have a meme for this

[deft kiln]

Very cringe

[daring pilot]

I made this for that one guy who would not stop whining about R2D1

[deft kiln]

Yeah I know him

[daring pilot]

And how it was a bad level bc no turbine

[deft kiln]

Mountain man

[daring pilot]

Nah not him

That’s monky man

[deft kiln]

Isn’t there a zero infection path

You just do class 5

High blood door

Scout

Low blood door

[daring pilot]

Idk if there is

[deft kiln]

I mean you have to cross once

[daring pilot]

Never tried it bc i respect the level too much for that

[deft kiln]

But it doesn’t matter that much

[daring pilot]

I like D1 probably the most out of all R2 levels

Other than B4

[deft kiln]

The one I remember most roundly is the 4 cell walk one

[daring pilot]

R2B2

[deft kiln]

And that is because of the speed

[daring pilot]

Power corrupts

[deft kiln]

You are just marching to your death

Dodging tounges and hoping

[daring pilot]

Corrupts is not capitalized in both OG and Alt

[deft kiln]

Nice love that

[deft kiln]

Okay r5b1 fun fact

One of the starting key doors is a team scan one isn’t

Not like this in og

[daring pilot]

That level scares me

[deft kiln]

It is so good

There hsu in the hallway is my favourite thing in the world

[daring pilot]

Could’ve been swapped with B2 in terms of difficulty tbh

[olive shoal]

jish 👎

[daring pilot]

god i had an incident last night on R5C2

Where a giant slapped me from so goddamn far away

And i was host

[deft kiln]

Sorry let me start speed running drama to get the masses entertained

I think bread should be banned

[olive shoal]

thanks

yea

he should be

[daring pilot]

Mmmyes more lore

Gerz what’s your favorite level

Period

[deft kiln]

A1 she is hard stuxk

[daring pilot]

mmm true

man my favorite is hard to say

Definitely R6 tho

Probably either C1 or C3

[tough badger]

R5D2 is my nostalgia goggles answer
R6D3pe for realsies

Can't have nostalgia goggles for that cuz I couldn't see it anyway

[pliant pasture]

hmmm nostalgia for 11 months ago says R7C1. but my favorites might be something really short like R2B1 or with tons of optional stuff R7D1. i should take a look through and check

[west crow]

I like r1b2 the officer

[half hornet]

Still no explanation for the shooter party... And it never happened again. Huh.

[real moss]

I hate that level too

[fair fern]

Does anyone know what happen if we dont get to the extraction after the timer ran out ?

In r5b4

[hexed vapor]

Nothing.

In OG waves end after a while.

[fair fern]

thats boring

[hexed vapor]

Every survival objective in the game works that way.

[fair fern]

i wish there was a purnishing wave like r7c3

if you dont get to extraction fast enough, you will die

unless ur insane at kiting

[hexed vapor]

R7C3 does not have a punishing wave outside of tank.

It's just the same waves, but w/out a limited population.

[deft kiln]

You can just cancel it with uplink as well

[coarse berry]

yeah I was gonna say

finish uplink in OVL and that one stops too lol

[fringe surge]

is the terminal for the third error in r5 e1 back at spawn?

I heard a teammate of mine say it's always the same so I wanted to confirm it

[hexed vapor]

You're able to use that one after the giants alarm, but the main terminal for it is near the objective terminal.

[fringe surge]

I unfortunately dont know what that is

is this the one ?

[hexed vapor]

How far have you been in the level?

[fringe surge]

uh

like

the tank error door

[hexed vapor]

You died at the blood door, then?

No, you can't go to spawn right away.

[fringe surge]

past it

some dude opened the door while a gunfight was happening

deth

[hexed vapor]

Also, if you haven't cleared moms and tank in the stelath sections, you shouldn't try to backtrack.

[fringe surge]

we cleard em

[hexed vapor]

Wacky.

[fringe surge]

iirc it's pull class V-run back to terminal?

[hexed vapor]

Yes. Unsure if you have to complete the class V or not.

[fringe surge]

hm

ok

ty

[hexed vapor]

Shouldn't matter either way, though.

The surge is the section you'd want to disable the error for anyhow.

[fringe surge]

yea that's what I wanted it for

[coarse berry]

this level sounds very exciting

I really need to get my friends to beat d2

[fringe surge]

it's quite long if u dont do the skip method

d2 is very fun

[coarse berry]

my thirds been away for a few weeks so me and a buddy tried to complete it with bots

didnt go great

[calm coral]

strat for R4E1 ex?

2 and 2 or 3 and 1

also the code person does not come back to reactor correct? they just get the codes and keep pushing forward

[coarse berry]

my friends did 2 and 2

and yeah, one of the reactor guards go put in code

our gear was 4 PDW's and 2 snipers / Veruta / Precision rifle

2 sniper boys went for codes and just pulled most rooms to save time

[calm coral]

yeah we’re gonna do same thing

[coarse berry]

i sent back my buddy with the other sniper on the 5th code to help fight reactor 'cause they add hybrids into the mix then

pulled the first shadow room and fought it off with some trips, snuck through second but probably wouldve been easier to just pull it too

[real moss]

2 and 2. bio stays defence. Precision rifle goes for codes with mine guy

[hexed vapor]

You can play it a lot of ways.

[wide lion]

top target)

[fringe surge]

just askin again cuz we're at that point

would it be better to go to spawn to turn off the giant error in r5 E1 or go through the class V alarm door

[hexed vapor]

You have to go throug the class V

It adds deactivate terminal at spawn

It also again depends on if the stealth zones are cleared.

If they are, it's basically free.

[fringe surge]

thanks alot

@hexed vapor BIG W for that
thanks alot

[winter wharf]

It's fun when you're playing it 1 and 1

Cool mission to duo

[livid heath]

@tough turret doi m vao game kieu

[tough turret]

cc gi

ban sml

[livid heath]

Adu ban tum lum seo?

Cai thg bai gia pha san nay

[tough turret]

Vl bận bảo bắn

[livid heath]

@deft kiln

[deft kiln]

I feel like the player missed 2 times and might be lucky that the other players both hit undamaged tumours/ mom screamed

[livid heath]

Dua thoi

[half hornet]

Its amazing how badly LFG is failing me these days

This game is so dead once R8 is beaten and gone

[pliant pasture]

or you could leave now and be happy sooner

or do all games you play make you miserable?

[atomic escarp]

yeah not having a dedicated groups sucks big time rip

🫡

[half hornet]

No, not even DOTA2 which is amazing. I'm not miserable - just whining, big difference.

[real moss]

your post is tempting but its too late, there is work tomorrow

[half hornet]

Sigh, i'm going in with bots again

Lets see how far i'll make it

[real moss]

exactly

[half hornet]

No overload - good sign.

[atomic escarp]

what lvl u tryna play

[real moss]

😏

[real moss]

R5B3

[atomic escarp]

you could have saved me but you chose not to

[real moss]

wut?

[atomic escarp]

i can tell you its not fun doing secondary with bots

[real moss]

saved you how? we played plenty

[atomic escarp]

saved me from becoming an AI

[real moss]

you could always have lfg'd

[atomic escarp]

im not good at dealing with incompetence

[real moss]

ah thats why the depression

[atomic escarp]

all cant be winners

[real moss]

doens't mean you have to be a quitter

[atomic escarp]

i get mad at seeing people playing bad in yt vids dont think its healthy for me

[real moss]

bruh you aight?

[atomic escarp]

apparently not 🤔 🔫

[narrow gulch]

why do you watch the vids then

[real moss]

thats a water pistol, something you should have no knowledge of

[atomic escarp]

it was a revolver originally but discord too soft

[real moss]

I know, its changed everywhere

it looks so bad now when texting the homies to do a drive by

[atomic escarp]

pass time i suppose until i see if i have to clear my military service then i can decide if i get a job

[real moss]

aaaah now I understand the new PFP !!

they'll make a man out of you

[atomic escarp]

its all coming together

[atomic escarp]

dont think i can get more manlier than i am rn

[real moss]

a beard does not mean ... manly

[atomic escarp]

ill humor you when you get one as good as mine

you have until... france doesnt keel over

[real moss]

bruh leave my beard alone, that shit is glorious

[atomic escarp]

i dont believe it

[real moss]

m8 my beard is so long I get checked at every customs check

[atomic escarp]

you dont even got the full attire bruv, you day dreamin?

[real moss]

I can make curls with my moustache tips, thats long enuff

[atomic escarp]

odd thing to admit

[real moss]

obligatory disclaimer: until my wife makes me trim it down a bit 😦

[atomic escarp]

ok thats fair

[real moss]

when she has enough of the prehistoric man look

[half hornet]

let me guess: this error alarm is chargers?

[atomic escarp]

modern man look is disgusting, embrace monke

[half hornet]

it cant be, right? its only B3, right?

[atomic escarp]

bingo

[real moss]

🥳

[real moss]

you did B1 and you dare ask?

[atomic escarp]

but the good news is its only around 2-3 mins each

[half hornet]

noises of muffled anger

[atomic escarp]

the worst u can get is like 6 waves total

personal record 3 waves donzo

[real moss]

🤣 i warned you soooo many times about R5

[atomic escarp]

u can stop error by doing the cargo unseal in z47 which needs a key in either z49 or z50 full of fog

theres a fog turbine so you'll be fine

[half hornet]

deep sigh

alright, lets see how long i can last

[atomic escarp]

its only 5-6 chargers per wave not a biggie

main is pretty tame, secondary with bots is an another story

[tough badger]

bot bio should make main bearable, what gets you in b3 is not seeing the chargers until it's too late

[real moss]

ask them to smile

[half hornet]

looks great

[real moss]

its going as planned

gl

[atomic escarp]

you'll get there...eventually

[half hornet]

i accidentally gave biship command to go get his turret

[real moss]

As it was written

[half hornet]

bots refuse to pick up fog

what stops the error, again?

[daring pilot]

Nothing lol

[half hornet]

You sure? They stopped spawning.

[daring pilot]

Really?

[half hornet]

YOu can spoiler me on secondary, i'm gonna make a call if i'm even gonna bother

Main only solo R5 run, incoming. I'm getting my drop one way or another

[daring pilot]

I have 0 clue, I thought that error never stopped

[half hornet]

I unsealed the case and its now mostly silent

just my 85% infeciton whining, heavy breathing... YOu know, the good sounds

[kind swan]

Trying to read terminal with 85% infection

[pliant pasture]

secondary is a mini thunder dome w/ 1 hybrid blood door 1 bbc blood door, and 1 tank + bbc blood door

[half hornet]

What is thunder dome and why should i care

[pliant pasture]

and tank alarm

[daring pilot]

It fun

[half hornet]

right

unbeatable it is

[daring pilot]

What tank alarm

[half hornet]

i'm goina for extraction

[daring pilot]

I know there’s a tank

[pliant pasture]

tank 2 and 3 are the 'alarm'. bioscan speed means no 3rd tank, and if you leave the scan you get extra tank every 2.5 mins

[daring pilot]

But i thought it was one

huh

[half hornet]

if bots cant do it then i cant do it

[pliant pasture]

yup

killing 10ish bbcs and 3 tanks w/ no downs is not in bot's wheel house

[atomic escarp]

When you unseal it stops

[atomic escarp]

Take your pills

[daring pilot]

No

[half hornet]

where is the goddamn bulk mouth

[atomic escarp]

In room f iirc

Down the chute

Its full of fog

[half hornet]

what IS even the secondary objective

no cells, no generators, no reactors...

LIST SECURITY didn't found anything interesting either

[daring pilot]

It’s a thunderdome

[half hornet]

i have no idea what that means

[daring pilot]

Room scan

[half hornet]

ah

giant scan and i just need to survive

right

fuck that

[daring pilot]

Except it’s just a big S scan

Because it was before and I doubt they made it a Z scan

[half hornet]

god, these caves are cringe

[atomic escarp]

Yeah 3 blood doors full of hybrids, charger giants and 1 tank
2 tanks spawn later at different %s

[half hornet]

foggy labyrinthian caves is GTFO at its' worst

Well... Almost. 1st place belongs to charger error alarms

[atomic escarp]

Its like first side zones for r2e1 after surge

The bulk DC is in the 2nd room down in the large pit

[half hornet]

already found it

[atomic escarp]

Ah ok