gtfo-spoiler-chat

[daring pilot]

I feel like that’s a perfect spot for Pablo

[winter wharf]

I think 3 tanks are more threatening than 1 immortal

[daring pilot]

I mean who said it had to be one

[winter wharf]

unless they put multiple immortals there

but at that point I think it'd be funnier to just throw like, 2 tanks, 1 mom and 1 pmom

[daring pilot]

Yeah, I just think if he belongs anywhere, that’s it

[kind swan]

Just make it so Pablo chases you throughout all the missions

[daring pilot]

Wait no hold on

[obtuse surge]

just remove him from the game

[atomic escarp]

That's better

[deft kiln]

R5d1

Man

What a level

[solemn wigeon]

Can't wait to play it tomorrow

Shame i had to work today 💀

[bold widget]

glad the fucking terminal promt bug is still a thing...

[half hornet]

tfw when almost wiped on final scan of A1

my fault, should've dropped the turrets even if i couldn't guess where they're coming from

didn't expect to get surrounded by like 25 of them

[atomic escarp]

R5a1?

The class 3 cluster?

[west umbra]

Does the… ahem… does the Overload exploit for R5C2… still work?

[kind swan]

[runic mauve]

just wanna know, does snatcher have a good new intro in r5?

[kind swan]

Erase the thought of using exploits

don't be one of those people

[west umbra]

YeS MaH LoRD

[kind swan]

You're better than them

[coarse berry]

if they didn't put a door you can C-foam and trip to catch him, yes

but they did

[runic mauve]

just mean like is it cool like the intro in r7c1 is

[coarse berry]

kinda

you shut off the lights and then snatch comes

alone

[nocturne flax]

weak

[runic mauve]

alright sounds acceptable then

[nocturne flax]

the level its nerf

and you ask for exploits

[kind swan]

see

Don't be like Dragon

He became a figment of Rayalot and them's imagination

and He didn't get his drip

(sleeper's would've CREASED HIS JAYS anyways)

[maiden lynx]

whats the order of events on R5C2?

[nocturne flax]

Overload > Extreme > Main

[maiden lynx]

i didnt know there was an extreme on c2

[subtle oriole]

Snatcher intro is ||R5A2|| || ||

I liked it

[narrow gulch]

it sucks that its not r7c1 anymore for obv reasons

[subtle oriole]

I like the suspense that r7b1 builds to it

[kind swan]

[subtle oriole]

Where Schaeffer (?) Talks about it

[kind swan]

[twin dirge]

you got your wish

[livid heath]

@ivory sundial

Care for a shroom?

[daring pilot]

mushroom!

[livid heath]

We digging a hole

Diggy diggy dig we digging a hole

[ivory sundial]

mushroom?

[livid heath]

Shroom

[ivory sundial]

Room

[calm coral]

called it

[stable pivot]

What's the optimal order of doing R4C3 PE?

[errant vigil]

Optimal is Overload - Secondary - Main

Easy is Sec - Over - Main

[next rapids]

dudeee

what happened to R5C1 xD

too easy now

[errant vigil]

It’s fine it’s like release R5C1 with spawn block

[twin dirge]

what happened to your mother

[late bloom]

are snatchers in r5d1 a thing ?

heared they would spawn from multiple peoples but we didn't see any in our run

[nocturne flax]

No on d1

Only a2 b4 c2

As far as i remember

[verbal ether]

how many tanks are supposed to spawn during b3 ext ?

if you don't mess up the scan

[tough atlas]

We had a total of 3

One at the start, one around 50% and one near the end

[livid heath]

The floating bulkhead key at R5A3

[tough atlas]

Any suggested R5D1 loadouts?

[verbal ether]

Got 3 too. Looking at videos of the original r5b3 ext, looks like it was only 1 to 2 tanks so I guess it was buffed

[nocturne flax]

"buffed" hehe

[tough atlas]

I do remember there only being 1 but tbh it has been years

[nocturne flax]

they probably just messed up the timer

[verbal ether]

who knows

[nocturne flax]

OG was shorter and it will only penalize you with a second tank

if you go down

that was intended

this they obviously mess up the timer

[verbal ether]

yeah you might be right

3 tanks might be a bit too much for a b level for it to be intentional

[kind latch]

man some of these new cosmetics are just so poorly done

i fuckin hate the reskins

new palettes are nice though

[late bloom]

tested it they can spawn but nit always

[tough atlas]

suggested tools for R5D1 Extreme?

[knotty barn]

Erhm is that the bulkhead key? oO

[reef talon]

your level is bugged, yeah

[knotty barn]

lol xD

is it like always? or sometimes? xD

[tough atlas]

sometimes

[reef talon]

it never happened to me yet

so yeah, sometimes

just check the void at spawn when you load in

[twin dirge]

yeah that level has that issue for now

probably fixed in next patch

[knotty barn]

lol, so is the level locked for me now? or can I at least somewhat progress? xD

[tough atlas]

Depends on which key spawned there

[knotty barn]

oooh so it can be any of the bulkhead keys 😄

well I guess I will just figure it out as I go 😄

[tough atlas]

If it's the one that was supposed to spawn in before high you're softlocked

if it's another one you aren't gonna be able to do PE

[knotty barn]

I got one key in zone_40, maybe I am lucky 😄

[golden terrace]

So C2 overload is busted ass right? I’m just jumping in here.

[west umbra]

Are there any levels in R5 that are especially interesting or fun? Ik B1,C2 are interesting but any others?

I want my friends to suffer but I want em to at least not want to never play again XD

[atomic escarp]

r5a3 pe is lotsa fun

also long n boring n burned my pizza

[west umbra]

Wait so is it fun… or boring

[atomic escarp]

both of em

[knotty barn]

aaaand I am softlocked xD

I did check the keys, though it seems the console just lies to you xD

well at least I got to remember the secondary for R5A3 😄

[atomic escarp]

how far were you in?

[knotty barn]

Did the secondary, should have done the overload first. But at least know I know for later tonight 😄

I do remember the overload, lots of fog and scouts xD

[atomic escarp]

i know about the fog and thats it

[knotty barn]

yeah I still got a clip of the double scout snipe from the original R5A3 😄

[wary olive]

Don't play b2pe or d1

[west umbra]

I saw B2 from a previous video. Not touching that with a ten feet pole

But why D1?

[wary olive]

It's a long slog

[west umbra]

Fair enough

[west umbra]

Any levels to recommend?

[hidden crater]

good christ r5b1 is hard with bots

door ghosting is making it borderline impossible

[obtuse surge]

most sane optional objective enjoyer

[west umbra]

Sir what are your top two favorite levels in R5

[livid heath]

Anyone finished KDS DEEP yet?

[tough atlas]

Dear Lord R5D1 Extreme is long

We just finished it and I'm drained ffs

[obtuse surge]

B1 main and C2 overload

[tough atlas]

Fireblade has the ink squid spaghetti mask that's given if you finish all main so yes

[obtuse surge]

so they didnt make it better

[livid heath]

R5B3 secondary easily has my heart

[tough atlas]

I never finished OG cause I always died on pmom but I remember there being 2 shadowscouts on the first zone of extreme and MANY more shadow giants

[livid heath]

Lemme ask how did you speed ran R5A3 so quick

The last terminal code was so far away

[obtuse surge]

:DDD

[livid heath]

It wouls be great cause im aiming for PE speed run randomizer challenge

[west umbra]

No B1 PE?

[obtuse surge]

too long

too much waiting

[tough atlas]

That's my opinion about most R5 maps tbh

[obtuse surge]

R5 just makes the mistake of putting multiple long objectives in the same level

a lot

the C2 reactor is one of the best reactors

but it should be a main somewhere

[west umbra]

I seeeee

How about B4?

Is it fun?

[daring pilot]

Depends on your definition of fun

[atomic escarp]

popular demand

[atomic escarp]

any warden survival protocol is fun

[west umbra]

Chaos gun shooting

[hidden crater]

r5 sucks for me because current network doesnt allow me to play with anyone except bots and people on the same network as me

and bots suck ass in b1

[heavy siren]

imagine doing r5c2 pe with 0 cells in monkalaugh

[honest lotus]

ikr

couldnt be us

[honest lotus]

the question is, did u do it in full fog or did u put in some cells first

[deft kiln]

I would have been fine with them giving us a cell for completing both optionals

[plucky breach]

this was so grueling

[tough badger]

i love r5c2 but it really is just 3 main objectives stapled together awkwardly

[calm coral]

I liked R4B1 ex as well

[calm coral]

naw no way overload is a main objective

the ending to C2 is just mean tho

[tough badger]

not by itself but it's definitely completely unrelated to the rest of the level lmao

[calm coral]

me and my group were like

ok we got the cells in

we’re almost done?

[tough badger]

yeah LOL

[calm coral]

error alarm started so we were like yeah we just beeline it to extraction

but nah

[pallid swallow]

R5A3 without bulkhead key?

[calm coral]

smack surge

smack another surge

smack extraction room

[calm coral]

?

[narrow gulch]

theres no error

[tough badger]

you could definitely assume it's an error at first though

[narrow gulch]

I wouldnt

always check if its an error or not

especially if youre gonna pull a class 3 surge without prep lol

[tough badger]

right lol

[calm coral]

isn’t there an error until the first surge is completed

[narrow gulch]

no?

[calm coral]

because waves definitely do spawn after the gen alarm

[tough badger]

not in the original at least

[calm coral]

we did gen alarm then gathered near the surge

waited for error wave to spawn in the right place

and then foamed

there’s like 99% sure an error alarm

until end of first surge

or start, doesn’t really matter

I agree that it doesn’t make sense to be there and be deactivated by that but that’s what we observed

[narrow gulch]

I mean I literally recorded my run and checked, its not an error

so idk

[calm coral]

hm

i’ve been playing for a long time so I’m fairly certain but I’ll see if I can reproduce it

[narrow gulch]

okie, hf

[errant vigil]

It's not an error

[waxen fjord]

@livid heath

[livid heath]

[waxen fjord]

so

tell me

[livid heath]

aight

[waxen fjord]

man this server is so good

[livid heath]

you want R5A3:Mining first or...?

[waxen fjord]

i'm putting it up higher than any server

[livid heath]

Mhnm

[waxen fjord]

chronological order

[livid heath]

aight

[waxen fjord]

i see the tentacle mf in ur banner

[livid heath]

having passed R4E1:DEEPER

[waxen fjord]

:))

[livid heath]

before hand Schaffer mentioned having heard of KDS deep which is a direct continuation to R5

[waxen fjord]

just write it down i'll read it, as im doing algebra and plotting equations on graphs

[livid heath]

this is my POV:

Old Mining was the team doing their 2nd Interview except Dauda

everyone had criminal records (Dauda being one of the cause to the fall of "Garganta" )

But Mining now is much more different

Being Dauda running from the same place but now instead of jumping in the HSU's

He meet up with the team in the end of their mission

and its pretty fast how they just drag him in as a new resource to the Wardens work load personels

i might need to go in the levels to get the new logs

[waxen fjord]

its not on wiki?

[livid heath]

no

ALT has not been update yet

needs atleast 1-2 week

[kind swan]

[half hornet]

thank god, R5-A2 secondary is not an error alarm

just some darkness and... a big fuckin' surprise

but at least it doesn't respawn

bots are worthless too, lovely

[waxen fjord]

that's it?

1-2 weeks

we an take atleast 1 month

[half hornet]

am i insane or R5-A2's sack room intersection doesn't have a terminal in it?

[tough badger]

i think so yea

[half hornet]

nvm, found it

literal last corner i didn't check

[tough badger]

where tf is it I'm also in rn lmao

[half hornet]

West-North, upper floor

[tough badger]

...i swear to god

[half hornet]

does an x4 ammopack worth the toruble of opening an extra room...

[deft kiln]

depends

[tough badger]

dunno, but if you're gonna do overload with bots they might need the meds more LOL

[twin dirge]

is there an infinite resource bug?

[half hornet]

fuck it, i'm being thorough

[tough badger]

no there's just a 4-use ammo in each blood door zone

[nocturne flax]

Wheere

[half hornet]

overload is some kind of error alarm again?

[tough badger]

nope

[half hornet]

of course it

[tough badger]

way funnier than that

[half hornet]

hm

we'll see

i'll take whatever it is as long as its not an error

i hate awake enemies

[subtle oriole]

Do you want spoilers?

[half hornet]

nah, i'll eat it raw

[subtle oriole]

😳

[half hornet]

probably will give me poisoning, but whatever

[tough badger]

I like the attitude

[subtle oriole]

no lube?

Did you do secondary?

You going for PE?

Just don't do what I did and do the entire overload but not pick up the fucking objective item and extract without it

[half hornet]

i mean its an A

surely it cant be that ba~ oh who am i kiding, this is GTFO, i'm gonna wipe on hour 3 of a perfect stealth run

[subtle oriole]

Yeah

A complete waste of time doing the entire run again

lmao

[half hornet]

did you simply forgot it or did the bots left it behind

[subtle oriole]

I simply forgot to pick it up

lol

And extracted without it

[half hornet]

big braaaaaaain

use new steam note features to remember your objectives

[subtle oriole]

Yeah I'm a complete fucking dumbass

[deft kiln]

This is gonna be so good

[half hornet]

bots are all carrying meds, i have like 3 ammo spares on me... what could possibly go wrong

[west crow]

You should play with me artek I will help you beat the game

[velvet linden]

don't listen to him, I will help you beat the game instead

[solemn wigeon]

No I

[late bloom]

btw. you now start with infection in r5e1 even if you have 100% detox. But if you stand in fog your infecrion will go down XD

[solemn wigeon]

Glad they solved that

[half hornet]

something's off...

i... i don't see the overload objective

[late bloom]

the fog will disinfect you

[half hornet]

i found the door... but not the key or where it goes

[real moss]

no key needed

[half hornet]

wha~

[tough badger]

yup no key

[half hornet]

huh

fascinating

the game never did that before

[real moss]

I do not rememeber tho if it says exactly what you need to do to unlock it

cause I do not bother to read it now

[half hornet]

is anything bad gonna happen when i pick up the main objective?

i found it, i think, but not fingerprints yet

[real moss]

thought you want no spoilers?

[half hornet]

you know what, i'll just leave it there for now

just gotta remember where it is...

[atomic escarp]

guys why is the snatcher in a floodway tile in the alt r5 trailer, but you don't really see one in that lighting on r5b4

[half hornet]

i guess i have no choice, i ahve to pikcup the cargo

there are no keys, no hubs... and the door is in lockdown

[real moss]

good luck

[tough badger]

c1? it's the only other floodways level

[atomic escarp]

i didn't see a snatcher in c1

i think it's false advertisement

[nocturne flax]

snatcher on A2 EXT B4 R5C2 OVERLOAD

someguys said r5d1 but its rng

[atomic escarp]

d1 when you open log door

[nocturne flax]

oh so thats why

i couldnt care less about the lore

is it sleeping?

[atomic escarp]

no

[nocturne flax]

thats why i didnt see it kekw

[half hornet]

yeah, that's a wipe

[atomic escarp]

can we go back to the snatcher in the trailer

i think it's false advertisement

[half hornet]

bad day to bring DTR + HCP combo and no automatic sentires

and that was an error alarm on my tail, correct?

yeah, not doing all this with bots again

when will i fucking learn + if PE is involved the bots are mega cringe

[tough badger]

yeah i knew that was going to be miserable with bots

[half hornet]

i mean they literally can't do jack shit about this

[tough badger]

yup

[atomic escarp]

i think instead of taking a screenshot, you could have shot 14 double tap and kill 14 babies

[half hornet]

i ate the first 5 bites, they immediately went to heal me and in the process got themselves swarmed

...in retrospect also explains the anomaly high amount of fog repellers around the place

[real moss]

enjoyed it ?

[half hornet]

i think i would with a different gun, could've given it a shot

[tough badger]

in the original level you also got a cfoam grenade in zone 20

[half hornet]

but the second i realised what i see i realised i stood no chance

not a single item in the team loadout could help me with this

[real moss]

mommy would love the choke

[atomic escarp]

well double tap technically is the 3rd best main gun for babies

[half hornet]

i'm not landing a perfect burst on 2 different targets, not happening

also the shot delay on that thing is kinda crap

great against normals... not so much this

[tough badger]

yea i can see it being theoretically good, but only in theory

[atomic escarp]

i think it's a matter of skill

even better now because you can actually 1 body 1 head shooters

so 7 kills per mag is very doable

[deft kiln]

dramatic irony is so good

[dark rover]

Does the individual located in that zone wake up right away or are they asleep like normal?

[half hornet]

i think the former because i didn't do anything

[daring pilot]

It’s autowake

[twin dirge]

autowoke?!

[half hornet]

i confirmed the visual and pretty much that

[dark rover]

That explains a lot now

[daring pilot]

Yeaaaahhh

[half hornet]

i don't think i've dealt a single point of damage

[twin dirge]

these liberals are making things autowoke 😠

[dark rover]

I had the hel shot gun and I was just going to book it to them

Then my ankles disappeared

[half hornet]

R5-A3-PE with bots: Y/N?

Reactors? Surprise bosses? Errors?

[velvet linden]

1 error, but very doable

[solemn wigeon]

Fog in ovl

[half hornet]

Not for me, i'm very susceptible to psy-ops and the possibility of me making mistakes increases by 400% when error alarm is active

[solemn wigeon]

P sure the err is 2 enemies per 45 seconds or smth

[real moss]

Error

small one tho

[half hornet]

Doesn't matter, the fact of it itself is what's throwing me off

And the ultiamte question is: how long?

Do i reach extraction point like 60 seconds after the fact or is there 20 more minutes of gameplay with it on?

Because if its latter - i'm dying

[reef talon]

It's 2 big charger error

More like every minute

[half hornet]

I'm gonna wake up a scout, i'm gonna wake up 3 rooms over, i'm gonna get swarmed...

[reef talon]

Not 45 sec

[narrow gulch]

wrong level

[reef talon]

Oh that's b1

[narrow gulch]

a3 not b1

[daring pilot]

Isn’t the level like broken rn too?

[narrow gulch]

can be

[reef talon]

I literally already mindwiped myself of A3

[daring pilot]

The holy bulkhead key?

[real moss]

Nah you have a Class V diminished and S 1 to do

[narrow gulch]

its not 100% for bulkhead to be fucked

[reef talon]

Oh A3 error is late into level.

And is very quick

[daring pilot]

What would you say the ratio is, if you had to guess

My crew is considering

[reef talon]

Though with bots might be annoying.

[narrow gulch]

idk

you can look for the bulkhead at spawn cant you?

[real moss]

And 2 termi als to search for

[daring pilot]

I thought it was in secondary

[reef talon]

Yeah you can check in the fog at start

[narrow gulch]

or terminal it

[daring pilot]

Is the floating key right at the start?

[reef talon]

To see if game didn't load properly

[real moss]

It is. I think Malpheus is spacing out

[daring pilot]

Ok lol

I remember people yelling ab wasted time

[reef talon]

I was told it spawns in entrance void when it doesn't generate right

[daring pilot]

Huh

[reef talon]

If it generates correctly it would be in secondary, yes

[real moss]

OR

both locations are f'd

(potentially)

At this point

Who knows

[reef talon]

It can be a key from either

Yes

[real moss]

It might be intentional by the devs to bring that clearing % down 🧐

[reef talon]

But both spawn in the abyss at start if you cannot reach them

So you can check abyss

If none there

Level no brokey

[reef talon]

Definitely not lol

[real moss]

Ah I forgot the /j

[kind swan]

[reef talon]

The game is programmed to place any objective or key items in drop zone abyss if it cannot place them in the level for some reason.

[solemn wigeon]

Isn't that just 0,0,0 or smth

[reef talon]

Yeah

Either way, you all suck

I never got a bugged A2/A3/B1 run

[solemn wigeon]

Same

[reef talon]

[solemn wigeon]

How did a2 bug

And b1 for that matter

[reef talon]

Another guy only had 1 key in A2 generate

B1 I think was fine but he was confused and thought it was bugged.

[solemn wigeon]

L

Just spawn the keys 2head

[subtle oriole]

Pretty sure R5A2 only has one bulkhead key

[winter wharf]

1 as in they could only open high or extreme, not both?

1 key in first zone, 1 key in extreme, overload is in lockdown and not opened via bulkhead dc

[reef talon]

They opened extreme and no key there for high iirc

Yeah

They couldn't continue either way

Was only 1 key on map

[daring pilot]

R5A2 should have 2 keys

[reef talon]

Yes

I initially remembered it as just 1 when responding like skill issue then remembered it had 2.

I thought the guy was just confused about overload

But no, he literally couldn't complete level.

[daring pilot]

Wait R5A2 can get keyfucked as well?

[reef talon]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1119089356259459174

[daring pilot]

bruh

[reef talon]

I wanted to punch that guy

[tough badger]

tbf you were dead wrong about how many keys are in r5a2, main and secondary both need one

[reef talon]

Yes

But he only said he couldn't access overload

[tough badger]

And someone else said you could do secondary after main which is even funnier

[reef talon]

Yeah, a2 and a3 immediately blended together for me until reminder

Either way, dumbo the elephant shouldn't write they can't get into overload when that isn't actually the issue.

[tough badger]

No one notices that bulkheads normally say what DC unlocks them, so they don't understand that the ov bulkhead saying it's in lockdown instead means something different

[reef talon]

This guy had been playing awhile tho

On previous rundowns

Like, come on

[tough badger]

Yeah people don't read lmao
They really should tho

Literally I had the same problem trying to take a few people who I introduced to the game in r5 through r5a2ov and they tried to find the key + DC today

[reef talon]

The main thing that grates me is "I am only gonna respond to mod/devs"

The support channels aren't there for mods and devs to do your trouble shooting typically. They might look at the post and reply.

But to be like "nobody else will be listened to"

[tough badger]

I'm mildly sympathetic because people started throwing out a bunch of contradictory information, but I also get your point

[narrow gulch]

enjoying your stay in the gtfo discord?

I love misinformation

[tough badger]

It's always funny here

[bold widget]

with the rundown completed this is what i have to say
A1-->same
A2-->buffed
A3-->same
B1-->nerfed
B2-->same
B3-->buffed
B4-->buffed
C1-->nerfed
C2-->nerfed
C3-->nerfed
D1-->nerfed
D2-->nerfed
E1-->same

[astral ferry]

is it a d2 buff when they removed an entire zone

[bold widget]

what did they remove ?

[half hornet]

well clearly nothing important since you didn't notice

[astral ferry]

iirc, you needed to go one zone deeper into the side zones before the class 10

[half hornet]

Eh, its just like extra minute of just walking

[bold widget]

for cell ?

pretty sure side had already cell in them

[astral ferry]

maybe I'm insane

[late bloom]

they removed an entire class 5

[bold widget]

acutally

yes

you are right the class 5 forgot about that one lol

[solemn wigeon]

Why does everyone say c3 is nerfed

[bold widget]

bro the final terminal is so easy now the extreme tho is the same

[late bloom]

d1 almost same besides half scouts in extreme

[solemn wigeon]

Secondary is more fucked 💀

[bold widget]

secondary feels like the same as i remembered

[solemn wigeon]

And getting to the terminals feels slightly harder

[bold widget]

extreme also had more giants

[bold widget]

the only thing they buffed then was the last code, the layout switch is ass but both terminals are in the same subzone so good i guess ?

[wary olive]

is c2 ovl nerfed

[bold widget]

not just overload but scan surges are easier now and you can still do the alarm during wave 3 for the 4th code in extreme

[wary olive]

the thunderdome is nerfed though?

[bold widget]

thunderdome ?

[wary olive]

arena scan

[narrow gulch]

overload

[bold widget]

yes

[wary olive]

[bold widget]

used to be 2 tanks now its 1 tank

and 2 snatchers also less enemies spawn

[wary olive]

mom still at the end?

[bold widget]

yes

[nocturne flax]

A lot of r5 itd nerf

[bold widget]

at 95%

[nocturne flax]

A snatcher here or there its not a buff lmao

[wary olive]

i wonder if people will want to cheese it still

[bold widget]

audio log in r7b1 is useless now where snatcher first got introduced as "something new" by schaeffer

[nocturne flax]

r7 remake

[half hornet]

I mean... Its new for Schaeffer, so lore is consistent in that regard. The log did lost its purpose of introducing it as a concept, but eh... Not that big a loss really. People probably forget about that log by the time they actually play C1 and reach the finale

[deft kiln]

i mean

[half hornet]

Also why are calling it a log, its not a log... Its a... Monologue?

[high vortex]

i mean

[nocturne flax]

r7 its in the past i guess

because in r4 he call sleepers snatchers

but who gives a shit about the lore to be honest

[bold widget]

i do

[nocturne flax]

nerd

[wary olive]

They really gonna make r6d3 only have 1 tank in that room

😔

[twin dirge]

do what? me?

[wary olive]

👉 #general

[narrow gulch]

LOL

[wary olive]

I go to check general chat just to make sure and they're talking about people being cute....

[bold widget]

[twin dirge]

surely no minors are involved

I mean miners

[kind swan]

Loafy is getting his Loaf Rocked by a Miner GF

[subtle oriole]

Is R5B3 secondary easy?

[deft kiln]

do you like tanks

[subtle oriole]

no

[deft kiln]

then i would stay away for now

[kind swan]

get rekt

Imean.

Surpass your LIMITS BROTHER

[subtle oriole]

Nah I'll do it on another run

These fucking bots man

ALL THREE of them legit just stood still

Not even meleeing

as 3 tanks walked up and one by one just downed them

Idgi

my economy rn is fucked

[deft kiln]

yeah

b3 do that to ya

[velvet linden]

b3 makes my peepee go up

[subtle oriole]

Is the tank alive or

sleeper

[velvet linden]

they are all awake

[subtle oriole]

rip

Couldn't even beat main LMFAO

Bots refused to get in the final M scan

Love this game

Couldn't even kick them all before the chargers got to me

[fringe surge]

is there a way to lower the fog in r5C2

[errant vigil]

insert cells

[fringe surge]

bruh
we ended up finishing the reactor in max fog

it wasn't bad

but

pain

[twin dirge]

why is Nomand so BIG

[deft kiln]

Why are you doing this

In spoiler chat

Pls just go to general

[twin dirge]

[tough atlas]

||two alarms, then a thunderdome that opens with some big chargers, some hybrids and a tank all at the same time, then there's gonna be a tank every 50% of the scan (or more if you lose time by getting downed or going out of it||

[atomic escarp]

do you think both the uplink waves being a normal uplink wave size not nerfed

[coarse berry]

it's like every 40%, we got 3 with no downs

[atomic escarp]

considering it was almost a surge wave before

also the alarm before uplink is a straight funnel, instead of 2 sides

[tough atlas]

we got 3 too so you're probably right

[atomic escarp]

like anyone can just solo hold the alarm before uplink with revolver + 1 burst sentry or 2 burst sentries killing 80% of the waves in all the alarms

and anyone can solo hold the uplink waves with just revolver and no sentry support

[tough atlas]

I remember R5C3 waves having hybrids, is that still the case?

[atomic escarp]

alarm waves yea

[tough atlas]

No I mean the double/corrupted uplink ones

[atomic escarp]

also yes

but rng

[tough atlas]

👍

[atomic escarp]

the error after finishing uplink is also easier because sniper can just bang bang bang and the giants are dead

and the time between an error wave is like 1 min

the datasphere error is kinda rng but 2 waves can basically cap the error, so getting 2 spawning from behind makes going to extract free with the amount of doors there are

[tough atlas]

Erhm

I'm playing R5B2 and wasn't first zone full of spitters?

There aren't any now?

[atomic escarp]

yea they removed spitters in spawn zone

[tough atlas]

Ironic since the whole map's intro flavour text had "Spitters"

[atomic escarp]

no more funny 30 spitters in the room with 2 floors

but you can pretend r5b2 is a buff because silent error

[ivory arch]

They changed the flavour text on R5D1, D2 and E1

[obtuse surge]

can you guys fix the stuck spot on the grated bridge please

[nocturne flax]

HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[obtuse surge]

stfu

[nocturne flax]

STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[obtuse surge]

i didnt even get the clear

[nocturne flax]

HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[obtuse surge]

bitchass

[nocturne flax]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[obtuse surge]

you acting like ztriw rn

fr

[wary olive]

Is it that tile with the two stairways going up with catwalks around

In labs

[waxen fjord]

@glad jacinth

[glad jacinth]

Snatchers

Snatch

Simple as that

They snatch you

[waxen fjord]

bruh

when you're downed?

[glad jacinth]

No

In general

[waxen fjord]

bruh

[glad jacinth]

They run up to you and just yoink you

[waxen fjord]

BRUH

[glad jacinth]

Drag you to a swarm of enemies

[waxen fjord]

thats kinda cursed ngl

[obtuse surge]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-chair-sad-gif-24080159

[glad jacinth]

Literal definition of "get pranked bozo"

[waxen fjord]

[waxen fjord]

fr

[nocturne flax]

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

[livid heath]

Damn the log enjoyer is mad

What did yall do

[obtuse surge]

[wide lion]

on c2

father and mather spawn for time or on % scan?

mother*

?

[calm coral]

time

in fact

if you get downed in scan or you get out of scan it doesn’t matter for the spawns

we got downed, scan went back down to zero while someone kited around the level

we cleared the wave

no spawns for the rest of the time

0-100

just 3m of waiting

[atomic escarp]

pirated copy?

[tropic pollen]

it looks odd

[terse fiber]

yeah the objectives aren't from top to bottom but from left to right

main, secondary etc. I mean

but the training should be on the rundown selection screen

[potent edge]

It says R6, and build number is older :/

[winter wharf]

yea that's an old version of the game

which should still have training available but you're hosting a lobby

[terse fiber]

oh yea the fuckin' R6 didn't notice that

[flat epoch]

should i do a repair

[tropic pollen]

Yes

[flat epoch]

kk

[tough atlas]

You sure?

It's clearly an R6 build and I think evaluation only released with Alt R1 or R7

I think, I'm not 100% sure

[tropic pollen]

i think training released in R7

[winter wharf]

i cant remember

and i dont have r6 downloaded so

[tough atlas]

Very weird that the guy has R6 build btw

I mean, if he didnt do anything funny

[atomic escarp]

training was released with r7

[flat epoch]

ight

its done repairing/updating

give me a min to launch

@atomic escarp its there now

[atomic escarp]

there u go

now this will give you some of the basics and after that start with rundown 1

[flat epoch]

kk

yay

[solemn wigeon]

Gg

[flat epoch]

the smg is weak af

too much recoil

[solemn wigeon]

Just wait till you see high Cal pistol

[flat epoch]

do you know F1 because i need to ask a F1 fan question

ik its not related

[solemn wigeon]

I do not

Try #general

[atomic escarp]

btw why do you consider the removal of the r5c3 almost surge uplink waves a buff in alt r5c3

it's pretty clearly a nerf compared to the original unless i'm missing something

where 1/3 of the original wave size is not considered a nerf

[solemn wigeon]

Firstly, the secondary error wave is buffed.
Secondly it can be argued that getting to the objective is harder.

I do agree that the actual objective is easier than before

[atomic escarp]

which error wave?

[solemn wigeon]

The one after picking up the datasphere

[atomic escarp]

it's more or less the same as before, 1 mag of revolver and hel revolver can kill it

[solemn wigeon]

Naw

It's definitely slightly worse

[atomic escarp]

no

[solemn wigeon]

Yes

[atomic escarp]

i had no problems soloing the error wave if they spawned ahead

[solemn wigeon]

Especially if they all spawn in front of you 💀

"hi my name is bill jenson and i sweat the fuck out of the game so i can solo it"

[atomic escarp]

and it's 50/50 chance of it spawning behind

took 2-3 error waves and it's already capped

and what does "getting to the objective is harder" mean

they made the route way more straight forward now

[solemn wigeon]

Yeah but some of the scans are in arguably worse rooms than before

The class 6 for example

[atomic escarp]

the last alarm before uplink?

or second to last

[solemn wigeon]

Both

[atomic escarp]

second to last maybe but burst sentries kill 60% of the wave

[solemn wigeon]

The class 5s are still the same imo

[atomic escarp]

last alarm definitely not

one can solo that after the s1s

because it's a straight funnel

and not 2 sides

[solemn wigeon]

Sentries literally kill everything in the lvl

[atomic escarp]

even without, 2 people can outshoot the wave

[atomic escarp]

so you agree it's easier basically

[solemn wigeon]

it is a matter of perspective at the end of the day. I'm trying to look at the average player's experience with the level. Not when you have all the skills necessary ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[atomic escarp]

feels like it's only harder because of certain people's sentry placements

[solemn wigeon]

Sentries always killed everything in the lvl even in original

[atomic escarp]

not really, the hallways were tighter

sniper sentry can shoot around 40 to 60% depending if you foamed floor or not

and more obstructions

[tough atlas]

I remember there being a discussion about alt r2e1 and how the room layout made it easier than og

Problem is, from my understanding room layout is a lot due to the randomization

So I dont know how much control they have and how much the "nerfs" some rooms have are intended

Main example is R4C2's alarm for the scout zone

which was full of fog in OG

now you can stroll through it

[atomic escarp]

their argument is 4th surge is under fog

[tough atlas]

I also remember the OG R5B4 S1 alarm being harder due to room layout being more fucked

[atomic escarp]

but there's 3 doors you can use

and a ladder if you're lame

[tough atlas]

I'm not experienced enough with R5 to talk about the argument you guys are having

[atomic escarp]

while the 4th surge can go under fog in the original too

[solemn wigeon]

For all i know this man has 12k hours in the game

[tough atlas]

just food for thought

[atomic escarp]

the 2nd scans almost always go under fog

then you have to push up the surge

for r2e1 comparsion

then they fail to realise the last surge is also pretty hectic in the original

and in alt, it's literally dumb downed

it's also interesting how rather than constructing a meaningful argument, people choose to instead jab on the person

[hidden crater]

in r5b1, is the HSU completely random or are there set spots it can be in within the zones

[tough atlas]

Not sure I'm understanding your question?

HSUs have a limited amount of possible spots

In all maps

[hidden crater]

yea but theres a crapton of them, can the one i need to collect just be any one of them?

in some levels objective HSU's like these can only be a select few of said HSU's that spawn

[hexed vapor]

?

[tough atlas]

yes

[hexed vapor]

The final error wave is about the same.

The post-Main error wave is different, but depends on if you consider giants easier or harder.

It tends to have a higher ammo cost, though.

[hidden crater]

does this apply here, if so do you know where its limited to?

[atomic escarp]

that's what i'm saying

[hidden crater]

im forced to play with bots and need all the meta knowledge i can get

[atomic escarp]

2-3 error waves and it's already capped

coz an error wave size is around 8 to 10

[tough atlas]

had a limited set in OG, I think in this one too

[atomic escarp]

get 2 from behind

it's capped

[hexed vapor]

It was the same in OG?

[tough atlas]

as in I remember it being one of 5 randomically or something like that

[atomic escarp]

more or less

[hidden crater]

ah

ok thanks hangon that actually helps a lot

[hexed vapor]

So what are you complaining about?

[hidden crater]

due to the maps of old R5B1

[atomic escarp]

i didn't?

[hexed vapor]

I'm reading the prior convo like you're saying the final error is nerfed.

[atomic escarp]

i only said the uplink part is nerfed so hard, and the error is still outshootable alone or with 1 other person

[hexed vapor]

The uplink seems basically the same, ngl.

Less hybrids, if I had to complain about anything.

[atomic escarp]

or maybe i said it's kinda nerfed because the amount of doors available increased

and the route is more straight forward

[hexed vapor]

The route being straightforward or not seems highly subjective.

It's basically the same number of tiles in a similar pattern as before.

[atomic escarp]

fair

[hidden crater]

which tells me nothing

fuck.

[hexed vapor]

It's not that limited, but it tends to have very heavy spawn weights.

Generally later letters will have it.

But the most consistent strat is just to learn the location of and beeline terminal.

[hidden crater]

yeah

[wide lion]

mother and father spawn at time

no % scan

[solemn wigeon]

@hexed vapor when scout killing vid

[hexed vapor]

New scout kills coming R9.

[solemn wigeon]

:(

[hidden crater]

Rundown 9 introduces scout glory kills

[calm coral]

yo are tiles the big square collections of rooms or the individual rooms

is there a real definition here

because usually they follow a pattern per square area

[hexed vapor]

The 64x64 square collections.

Individual rooms are "nodes," but nobody calls them that.

[calm coral]

yeah so basically the blocks you see form if you zoom out on a map

[hexed vapor]

Uh, no.

[calm coral]

nah like

not the grid lines

but if you zoom out on a map you’ll see it’s basically made out of squares

which are made out of “nodes” i guess then

[hexed vapor]

Yes, then.

[calm coral]

ok and a reactor room/floodways hub room/dig site gen cluster is a full tile?

floodways hub is the most obvious one

but I believe all reactor rooms I know are full tile sized

[hexed vapor]

Yes.

Any single room that has (or can have) doors on all cardinal directions is spanning the full tile.

So like, R3A3 reactor from South to North is a full 64 unit distance.

[calm coral]

yes got it

the R3 A levels are some of the best tbh

I enjoy them deeply

they’re mature objectives compared to the other As imo

gen cluster and a proper reactor

nice to get new people into the game

[pallid swallow]

will this give person full game?

[mossy yoke]

No. That's for the alpha which was a few years ago and a different Steam App, so won't give access to the actual game. However GTFO will be on sale for 33% off on June 19th.

[pallid swallow]

got it

[kind swan]

I forgot 10cc is in the future

[stable pivot]

Where? It isn't on Steam at least.

EDIT: seems like D0cR3d removed the part of the message about the game being on sale for 33% off.

[tough badger]

it's going on sale shortly, but isn't yet

[kind swan]

10cc timezone is ahead of ours iirc

[mossy yoke]

From our newsletter. I had misspoken on now/vs future as I thought it was already on sale, but temporarily removed it from my comment until I could confirm my brain remembering.

[tough badger]

it's okay doc i forget what day it is sometimes

[kind swan]

[stable pivot]

Thank you for the clarification, I have a few friends who are waiting for a discount so this should convince them nicely

[kind swan]

I only know because of that one event that ended "early" because 10cc's timezone was ahead of majority of player's timezone

it's the 18th still for most of us

some people got livid about that event because the announcements/steam page didn't announce a specific time/timezone it would stop

[tough badger]

Yeah it's important to either list time zone or have it end locally

[kind swan]

curious for R3B2.
Do ya'll prefer to open 507 or 508?

[tough atlas]

Whichever has only 1 cell since res zone before mom is easy as fuck

I did it the other way around with bots once

[winter wharf]

whichever has 2 cells (for full team) because then there's less faffing around later

[subtle oriole]

For both my runs, 507 hjad 2 power cells, while 508 only had one

So went to 507

That way you don't need 511(?)

And 512 alarm is easier

Also dson't you need the fog turbine?

Which only spawns in one of the two rooms?

[tough atlas]

spawns in first zone

I think there's a second one in one of the two rooms, but I believe that there's one also in the first zone

[winter wharf]

It used to be different in og

I think only one zone had turbine but 2 had cells

or it was a turbine in each, but only had cell

[subtle oriole]

Ah

That must be it

[wide lion]

😦

[kind swan]

our run. 507 had 1 cell but it had some supplies
508 had 2 cells but no supplies

[tough badger]

Pretty sure that's what the split is supposed to be, harder alarm for 2 cells and no resources, or easier alarm for 1 cell and resources

[kind swan]

it was disappointing to me

because 511 wasn't even anything hard

[tough badger]

It's still a B level
I just like having pathing options

[subtle oriole]

Is R5D1 a reactor level

[solemn wigeon]

Yes

[deft kiln]

Reactor shutdown

R1d1 style

[tough badger]

it is in fact r1d1 but 5 times as long

that's what the 5 stands for

[deft knot]

At least now with thermal weapons it a little more bearable, when the OG first came out it's the most disgusting shit ever

[nocturne flax]

It literally the same.... and nerf too

[verbal ether]

what are the nerfs ? 1 less scout in respawn room ?

[nocturne flax]

also less fucked rooms due to distribution been fix

or well... working as intended

[flat epoch]

hi

[real moss]

sup

[flat epoch]

should i play gtfo today

[real moss]

if you feel like it

[flat epoch]

i feel like playing solo

[real moss]

so not completing the game

to each their own

[tough atlas]

On average, how long is R5D2 (I mean Alt not OG)?

[flat epoch]

i dont have a mic

[real moss]

haven't done it yet

[tough atlas]

I feel like I really need to ask this for some maps I've left that I never touched in OG (D2 and E1)

R5D1 Extreme took our group 2hours and 10mins

And I think we could've shaved out 10-15mins at most

[real moss]

E1 was 1.5 hours iirc (OG)

[tough atlas]

that's still fucking long

[real moss]

E1

[tough atlas]

with 1.5 you mean 1h30min, right?

[real moss]

yea

[tough atlas]

I meant my previous comment about d1

🤌

[real moss]

😭

[tough atlas]

TBH I really feel like those maps are too fucking big ngl

No way I'm gonna re-do R5D1 fuck that shit

[real moss]

hehehehe

[reef talon]

maps were always padded in R5 for respawn room mechanic

[flat epoch]

who wanna watch me do solo levels

as a beginner

[real moss]

At work but thx

[flat epoch]

please.

im gonna shit my pants if someone doesnt

[real moss]

buy Brown ones 👍👍

[wary olive]

Did og r5c2 reactor have charger spawns

[solemn wigeon]

Yes

[livid heath]

R5C2 reactor spawns are really F uped

[solemn wigeon]

Are they?

[nocturne flax]

They just spawn from behind

[wide lion]

if you can`t clear anything, make.....

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-do-it-flames-fire-shia-labeouf-gif-17696690

[nocturne flax]

WE GOT A PLUSHIE

FINALLY

[wide lion]

?

r5 end?

[half hornet]

Ugly as hell though

It looks like raw meat

[wide lion]

?

[half hornet]

... Or very condensed spaghetti

[nocturne flax]

Isnt that the point

[half hornet]

I don't know, to me sleepers are forever white

[plush basin]

looks like BBQ'd sausage

[nocturne flax]

but da baby sleeper

finally 10cc making merch store attractive

[plush basin]

I wish they would just release some normal clothes with the santonian logo on

I don't want a hardhat or a foremans jacket

I also don't really want "GTFO" on my clothes

[wary olive]

what about that santonian diaper

[nocturne flax]

They just need a more casual clothes and not have pretencious marketing

next step is

coke soda can

because that blueberry one send me to the bathroom real fucking quick

[plush basin]

Okay actually the GTFO long sleeve tee - rebell is a pretty cool design

idk if thats new, haven't noticed it before

[solemn wigeon]

Ellda can you buy me the plushie for my birthday

I will give you a thumbs up if you do

[plush basin]

I would buy it if you could make it do the spawn killed dance

[solemn wigeon]

What the hell is that

[plush basin]

Quad have you played GTFO before

[solemn wigeon]

Yes

Oh i see

I'll try my best

To make it do that

[nocturne flax]

Next step

scout plushie

[solemn wigeon]

Chibi prisoners plushies

[plush basin]

They should make a scout water feature that shoots jets of water out like tentacles

[solemn wigeon]

Where would you put it

[plush basin]

in the garden???

[solemn wigeon]

What if you dont have one

[plush basin]

then you probably don't want to buy it

If they sold a scout body pillow I would definitely buy it for him

my friend, that is

[atomic escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-dunce-gif-10694047

[livid heath]

The naughty cage

[subtle oriole]

Prisoners who abandon their objective stack get put in the relic display cage to be auctioned off

[solemn wigeon]

Not me? </3

[twin dirge]

skill issue

[reef talon]

How are you supposed to get through the respawn rooms right before and after secondary on r5c1 without one of the stupid shadows screaming and waking them?

They just seem to always do it even if nobody is there.

Was with a team a few days ago and we died in extraction from the giant and shadow flood.

[late bloom]

check with bio a way to sprint and hope they don't scream

[reef talon]

Epic gaming design

[late bloom]

before extreme it is easy because it takes like a minute for them to spawn in and you need to get out of A

[reef talon]

So basically RNG on spawn room layout and RNG on wave spawn direction

Yeah getting into secondary is no issue

They do tend to scream even with everyone inside though

[late bloom]

after it is just a bit if rng if they scream it is not that bad. Just run to extract and have ammo on your sniper

[late bloom]

you need to be 2 rooms away so they cannot scream

get out of room A when they start spawning in

[reef talon]

Right

And just hope you don't immediately wake mother

Or just deal with her on sight

She can spawn in any of the zones there

Basically, this level seems somewhat RNG dependant.

[late bloom]

yes and no

there is always a way to sprint through. Even if you need to kill 1 or 2 or walk for vit it shouldn't be a big problem. If you get unlucky with mom spawn you need to kill her but that should be okay. I would recommend opening 1 side zone for resources anyways. You should be good even if you wake up both room on extract

remember you can always do both side zones you don't need for uplinks

to get resources

if you run low on them

bring one sniper and you should be good

[reef talon]

Yeah we did both

[late bloom]

did you finsh level or at what point did you die

[reef talon]

On the extract from the respawn rooms waking

2 people went down getting there so was just me and another in extract

[late bloom]

we were fine with waking up last room before extract

make sure the sniper is hitting his shots

and you should be fine

there are like 6 giants and 2 hybrids in the room

just try to stagger them when sniper needs to reload

[tough badger]

r5c1 is infamous for a reason lol

[errant vigil]

You know it's bad when the Devs added in teamscans to start uplinks

[deft kiln]

I love just giant kiting

[primal patio]

i love when second cell in r5e1 go under textures and you cant grab it...gtfo is great game!...

[deft kiln]

tyou can get it

still